The Chiefs Quarterback Who Refused to Play

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • Imagine a quarterback having a chance to get live reps during a game and outright refusing to do so. Well, in 1998, that's exactly what happened to Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Pat Barnes, when he was given the chance to play in a competitive game, and he refused to do so, thinking that his way was better than the team. You can probably guess how that turned out for him
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  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 18 дней назад +31

    Fun Fact: You mentioned Kurt Warner and Jake Delhomme as quarterbacks who played in NFL Europe. They’re the only two original free agents to start at quarterback in a Super Bowl.

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 18 дней назад +6

      Kurt Warner owed it all to Trent Green tearing his ACL in preseason

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 18 дней назад +5

      ​@@bigglilwayne7050or is it Rodney Harrison?

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 17 дней назад

      @@dnasty312
      Safety blitzes on the QB during preseason games doesn't sound very likely, but if Rodney Harrison was responsible for Trent Green tearing his ACL, then yea I guess that would technically be correct

    • @andrewgrove1691
      @andrewgrove1691 17 дней назад

      ​@@dnasty312rodney

    • @CaseyWinehouse
      @CaseyWinehouse 10 дней назад

      Original free agents? You mean undrafted?

  • @KChiefs12
    @KChiefs12 18 дней назад +10

    Travis Kelce is the greatest TE.

  • @DanileSawn
    @DanileSawn 17 дней назад +7

    TG was great, but he wasn't even the best Chiefs TE of all time

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 18 дней назад +20

    This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how Packers Quarterback Lynn Dickey begged Coach Forrest Gregg to not play him in 1985.

    • @phonecorner1
      @phonecorner1 18 дней назад +3

      God loves us all so much that he gave his perfect son to die for our sins and raised him from the grave to defeat death. Through faith in JESUS we can be saved and reconciled to GOD. please repent🙏♥️

    • @hennylo68
      @hennylo68 18 дней назад

      ​@@phonecorner1Jesus is awesome.

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 18 дней назад

      I would not want to play for Gregg either!

  • @alanpeel1981
    @alanpeel1981 18 дней назад +7

    Had Barnes played, he might have stayed through 2000. Consider that Gannon left after the 1998 season for Oakland. The backups for Elvis Grbac in 1999 and 2000 were second-string QB Warren Moon and third-string QB Todd Collins. Carl would have only gone after one of those two veterans if Barnes had followed the Chiefs orders to go to NFL Europe and play.

  • @ATCguy1973
    @ATCguy1973 17 дней назад +4

    His decision not to go to Europe was worse than if he did decide to go and spike the ball on every single play 😁👍

  • @orbyfan
    @orbyfan 18 дней назад +12

    Pat Barnes was a backup quarterback with the Calgary Stampeders in 2001, and won a Grey Cup ring despite seeing almost no action. He moved on to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in 2002 and again saw limited action over the next two years, but was given the starting assignment in the last game of the 2003 season because starter Khari Jones had a high-ankle sprain and hadn't practiced in two weeks. On the third play of the game, Barnes threw his first pass, which was intercepted and returned for a touchdown. Barnes suffered a serious, and career-ending knee injury on the play. Jones was forced to come off the sidelines, and in an incredibly gutsy performance, produced over 440 yards of offense in leading the Blue Bombers to a 34-30 win over the eventual Grey Cup champion Edmonton Eskimos.

    • @angelmanfredy
      @angelmanfredy 17 дней назад

      What a legacy. 😂

    • @crackerjack9320
      @crackerjack9320 16 дней назад

      Khari and two other football players were my roommates the last two years of college. We pretty much played season after season of Tecmo Bowl. Lots of shit talking. He was a pretty good basketball player too. Thanks for your post.

  • @LordTeaboBaggins
    @LordTeaboBaggins 18 дней назад +19

    To be fair, it would be hard for any QB to follow People Magazine Sexiest Athlete Elvis Grbac…

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 18 дней назад +1

      Haha, was he really??? That's crazy if true.

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 18 дней назад +2

      ​@@DolFan316do you know that story?? 🙊

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 18 дней назад +1

      @@dnasty312 Nope. Do you? I'd actually love to know now.

    • @LordTeaboBaggins
      @LordTeaboBaggins 18 дней назад +3

      @@DolFan316 So, during People’s Sexiest Man Alive issue in I think 1998, they did a section for Sexiest athlete. During the editorial meeting to decide who it would be, someone mentioned that KCs QB was very good looking. So without knowing the name of the QB, they ran with it.
      There was only one problem: The QB the person was thinking of was Rich Gannon who had been playing while Grbac was hurt. But since they didn’t know his name, they just told KC that their QB was chosen sexiest athlete. So KC sent Grbac to do the feature. People magazine realized their mistake once they saw Grbac. But they decided to run with it anyway.
      Which is the story of how Elvis Grbac was once named Sexiest Athlete Alive. It was a total mistake, but they went along with it

    • @stephenhood2948
      @stephenhood2948 17 дней назад +2

      LOL I had never heard this story. I just looked, it is indeed correct. That is hilarious!!

  • @johnharris6655
    @johnharris6655 18 дней назад +5

    2:57 that is Cal coach Steve Mariucci in the Hawaiian shirt.

  • @Petalfield0
    @Petalfield0 18 дней назад +16

    Greatest football channel on the entire platform

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  18 дней назад +7

      Thanks! Much appreciated. Love what we’re building here

    • @pp3k3jamail
      @pp3k3jamail 18 дней назад +2

      I don't know about that. He has a good channel but it's other better ones out there

  • @johncate9541
    @johncate9541 18 дней назад +7

    Don't put me in coach, I don't wanna play.

    • @davidking4838
      @davidking4838 14 дней назад

      Don't put me in coach
      I don't wanna play, today
      Don't put me in coach
      I don't wanna play, today
      Look at me, I can be in the locker room.

  • @rushbroussard5399
    @rushbroussard5399 18 дней назад +6

    This Is The Second Video Of The Kansas City Chiefs Jg9 Did This Year The First One Was The Car Wash Incident The Second One Is This One The Chiefs QUARTERBACK Who Refused To Play.

  • @rngfootball759
    @rngfootball759 18 дней назад +10

    He was decent qb. In NFL Europe. In hindsight the 97 qb draft class was weak.
    Would the Chiefs won a playoff game in the 90s had they played Rich Gannon instead Bono/Grbac?

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 18 дней назад +1

      It wasn't hindsight. Jim Dru(n)kenmiller was the first QB taken...at 26. He was seen as a project player who the 49ers took because he was big. Jake Plummer was seen as a player who could be good but nobody at the time was getting all hot n' bothered over guys like Danny Wuerffel, Tony Graziani, Koy Detmer, etc. That's why Plummer was the only other QB in that draft to be taken before the 4th round.

    • @phonecorner1
      @phonecorner1 18 дней назад +2

      God loves us all so much that he gave his perfect son to die for our sins and raised him from the grave to defeat death. Through faith in JESUS we can be saved and reconciled to GOD. please repent🙏♥️

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 18 дней назад

      ​@@DolFan316Back in the day I thought Plummer was..... Ok. But he's otherworldly compared to the shyte QBs drafted elsewhere in the 97 draft.

  • @marcusmosiahgarveysr4310
    @marcusmosiahgarveysr4310 18 дней назад +2

    In the pre-Andy Reid Era, the Chiefs usually went the veteran QB route via trade or free agency to solve their starting QB search, which came in the form of Steve Deberg, Dave Krieg, Joe Montana, Steve Bono, Rich Gannon, Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, and Matt Cassel.

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 18 дней назад +1

      Also kind of like the Vikings in the post-Tommy Kramer, pre-Daunte Culpeper era.

  • @rose415
    @rose415 15 дней назад +2

    As always very interesting TY

  • @Thewordofgod4040
    @Thewordofgod4040 18 дней назад +4

    I love your videos, keep up the good work. Your content is amazing and I think you’re a very talented video creator.

  • @glennfarez6760
    @glennfarez6760 3 дня назад +1

    Tell me I'm wrong Mr. History but I vividly remember Pat Barnes playing in a preseason game in Japan of all places! Check it out my friend and tell me what you find. Super interested what you find.

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 18 дней назад +3

    Barnes forgot that he needed reps. People such as Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme, Adam Vinatieri, James Harrison and others wouldn't be the stars they became without getting reps in NFL Europe. The Chiefs had Barnes sent there for a reason. No wonder he didn't make it to the Chiefs' final cuts.

  • @hennylo68
    @hennylo68 18 дней назад +10

    Tony Gonzalez is the best tight end ever. Gronk had Brady his whole career. Imagine Tony with a Brady type of QB. He never even came close to having that type of QB ever.

    • @SouthernGreyShark
      @SouthernGreyShark 13 дней назад

      The difference is Gronk was a terrific blocker as well.

    • @hennylo68
      @hennylo68 11 дней назад

      @@SouthernGreyShark I will give you that, Gronk was a much better blocker. But pass catcher goes to Tony all day.

  • @arizonawrestlinginterviews1040
    @arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 18 дней назад +6

    59.1k subscribers! Cmon people, help this man reach 60K!!

    • @deadend1041
      @deadend1041 18 дней назад +3

      He should be in the millions are you kidding

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 18 дней назад +1

      @@deadend1041 That's modern day RUclips for you. The best channels have the least amount of subs because the platform itself has been designed specifically to screw over all independent content creators.

  • @aaronholcomb237
    @aaronholcomb237 18 дней назад +4

    This guy sounds like the exact opposite of Alan Iverson.

  • @Ecwfan
    @Ecwfan 18 дней назад +4

    Several things - That 1997 NFL Draft at QB had 3 QBs that Bill Walsh was asked to look at by the San Francisco 49ers. He looked at Jake Plummer , Jim Drunkenmiller and Pat Barnes. Of all 3 he recommended Plummer , but said Barnes was the next one he'd take if he was gone. The 49ers missed so massively they disregarded Walsh's recommendation and drafted Drunkenmiller.
    KC after the Todd Blackledge failure would not draft a 1st rd QB in the 1st rd until Pat Mahomes. Their biggest QB bust after it was likely 2 other QB's in that span. A 2nd rd pick on Matt "Werewolves of" Blundin in 1991 or 1992. Then in 2000s they drafted Brodie Croyle in the 3rd rd.
    KC came close to drafting 2 QBs in that span in the 1st rd before Mahomes. In the 2007 draft KC was looking possibly at drafting QBs in the 1st rd ...had they fallen to them. One was Brady Quinn (they later signed him and he sucked) and Matt Ryan (if Atlanta didn't draft him as expected) . But the Chiefs would go on to keep that over 30 year streak of no 1st rd QBs going.
    But in all this I'd say Blundin was the Chiefs biggest QB bust after Blackledge. He was drafted high in the 2nd rd and at that point KC had Steve DeBerg or Dave Krieg as a starter.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 18 дней назад +2

      Liked because I thought Werewolves of Blundin was clever.

    • @Ecwfan
      @Ecwfan 18 дней назад +4

      @@DolFan316 As much as I'd love to take credit for it. Its a Chris Berman line. I believe he said it during the draft once or twice.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 18 дней назад +1

      @@Ecwfan Giving proper credit just made me like this comment too 🙂

  • @markphelt6395
    @markphelt6395 18 дней назад +2

    Good footage. Homage to the return. Too bad we can’t import draft classes.

  • @slimischillin7753
    @slimischillin7753 18 дней назад +2

    W for all those chiefs mini-helmets up there in the background, even though you’re a jags fan

  • @randytracy1742
    @randytracy1742 18 дней назад +2

    Well I can see jg9 is going to do another video about a Kansas City chiefs player because of the chiefs‘helmets behind him! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @jasonr.6428
    @jasonr.6428 18 дней назад +1

    Great vid man! Subbed!

  • @billymayshere6128
    @billymayshere6128 18 дней назад +12

    Yet another story of an uber talented kid blowing it all for nothing

    • @user-fk8me3ye5f
      @user-fk8me3ye5f 13 дней назад

      He wasn’t that talented. He was a fourth round pick and did not have outstanding scouting reports coming out of college

    • @billymayshere6128
      @billymayshere6128 13 дней назад

      @@user-fk8me3ye5f Oh im sorry which round were you drafted in?

  • @jackatkinson3682
    @jackatkinson3682 14 дней назад

    Missed opportunities always appear clearer in rearview mirror than in a windshield.

  • @luisreyes1963
    @luisreyes1963 18 дней назад +2

    Boy, those stories about the KC Chiefs are simply coming out rather fast these days. 😅

  • @yokaidigital3033
    @yokaidigital3033 16 дней назад

    Imagine if Tony played today. He was all time great tight end and he never really had a great quarterback yes I know Joe Montana was a chief but he was at the end of his career, imagine as great as Tony was with various quarterbacks throughout his career if he played in the Pat Maholmes era. Heck imagine the scary combo of two great tight ends in Gonzalez and Kelsi. Chiefs might been unstoppable in that scenario. On to this story it’s hard to believe a player would refuse to play. Incredible story and good video

    • @LuckyEyeglasses-xg2rj
      @LuckyEyeglasses-xg2rj 16 дней назад

      Patrick and Kelce are locked in with one another, not sure they would have had the same chemistry but I would have liked their chances.

  • @Selsigs
    @Selsigs 18 дней назад +3

    I’m glad you mentioned the abysmal history of KC drafting QBs. Honestly, I can’t blame him for his decision. The Chiefs organization for most of its history has no idea how to draft and develop QBs. Carl and Marty managed to dig a basement in that category. Case in point: Grbac over Gannon 🤦‍♂️

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 18 дней назад +4

      In KC's defense, they found a much more stable QB pipeline by taking SF castoffs lol

    • @Ecwfan
      @Ecwfan 18 дней назад +1

      KC seemed cursed at drafting QBs after the Blackledge pick over Marino (I think they also passed on Jim Kelly too lol) and heck even Ken O’Brien.

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 18 дней назад +1

      Gannon also washed out of the 90's Vikings, too.... Gannon had potential obviously but for whatever reason couldn't gain much favor on the Vikes or the Chiefs... Maybe he didn't have the leadership or charisma for a while? I don't know. But then, both the Vikes and the Chiefs went through a kajillion QBs in the late 80's/90's.
      Also relevant is that the early-mid 90's were down years for NFL offenses, aside from HOFers Aikman/Montana/Steve Young/Marino/Elway, it was a really weak era for QBs.

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 17 дней назад

      @@ryanjacobson2508
      It wasn't so much about down years for offenses, rather it was before the league totally handicapped the defensive side of the ball... Plus there are lots of guys you left off the list, starting with guys like Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Randall Cunningham, and Jeff George...

  • @CharlieRogers50
    @CharlieRogers50 13 дней назад

    "He was sitting around every Sunday with nothing to do." Maybe that was the problem. Believe it or not being on an NFL roster is a full time job, whether you're playing or not. If you're not working to be the best you can be or to improve, you're going to be quickly replaced.

  • @TommyD1213
    @TommyD1213 13 дней назад

    Tony Gonzalez also would’ve been a first round NBA pick if he went that route

  • @CharlieRogers50
    @CharlieRogers50 13 дней назад

    Travis Kelce is the best TE ever. He's eclipsed Gonzalez and Gronk.

  • @peelslowly28
    @peelslowly28 18 дней назад +1

    Is that Mac Jones in the thumbnail? 😂

  • @turothejet24
    @turothejet24 18 дней назад

    Talk about Christian hackenburge a jets qb that never played at all

  • @bsmith8943
    @bsmith8943 13 дней назад

    Kelce has passed Gonzalez

  • @jreds79
    @jreds79 18 дней назад +1

    He the orginal Mac Jones. In fact he looks just like Mac Jones.

  • @SladeBling
    @SladeBling 18 дней назад +1

    Believe it or not there was another KC QB that refused to play..and that was the last regular season game of 1996, with a playoff spot on the line!!!
    and because this KC QB refused to play KC LOST and missed the playoffs!

  • @MarkSmith-vy3tq
    @MarkSmith-vy3tq 18 дней назад

    Somehow I missed the focus of this clip. Not sure how I arrived at this assumption, but I thought he refused to enter a game when called upon. So, this was a letdown (of my own accord).

  • @nicholaswinebrenner5164
    @nicholaswinebrenner5164 18 дней назад

    The Chiefs may not have been good at drafting quarterbacks prior to drafting Mahomes but they were good at getting quarterbacks from the 49ers.

  • @blindjustice8718
    @blindjustice8718 12 дней назад

    Kansas City offense in the 1990s: Run, Run, Pass, Punt. Martyball.
    They were better off with the defense on the field.
    Not really hard to pick up that offense.
    KC -- after the Blackledge debacle -- never picked a QB high in the draft until Mahomes. Barnes was never meant to be a starter. KC's "five year plan(s)" under King Carl were for proven retreads castaway from other teams (mainly SF, oh, the irony).

  • @gregdaydodge4617
    @gregdaydodge4617 18 дней назад

    Shannon Sharpe. Best TE Ever

  • @markphelt6395
    @markphelt6395 18 дней назад +1

    Urggg. Jimmy Raye. Curses. Another one of those E.E. Smith Golden Bulls. Let’s get some Harry Sydney love

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 18 дней назад +1

      Are you Jimmy Raye? Who wants to know, who wants to know?
      (You had to be there, folks.)

    • @markphelt6395
      @markphelt6395 18 дней назад +1

      @@DolFan316 lol

  • @Bizoza9
    @Bizoza9 18 дней назад

    Gonzo is the GOAT TE, otherwise the best WR in NFL history is Flipper Anderson, the guy with the most receiving yards in a game in NFL history. Sure his peak was short, but its the highest ever. Thats basically the Gronk argument. Also, there are multiple QBs with higher peaks than Brady, so the same people arguing for Gronk are undermining Brady.

  • @ambassador724
    @ambassador724 12 дней назад

    I was hoping this video would have been 6 years ago vs. 6 days ago because Tony Gonzalez not only is NOT the best tight end ever, he's not even the best tight end to ever be a KC Chief.

  • @Mike14G
    @Mike14G 16 дней назад

    Who is #44 for Cal in this video?

  • @johnharris6655
    @johnharris6655 18 дней назад

    1984, Raiders and Bears are killing each other, knocking Starters Marc Wilson and Jim McMahon out of the game. At one point the Raiders were out of Quarterbacks and Tom Flores asked HOF Punter Ray Guy to go in at QB. Guy said no.

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 18 дней назад

      I don't think anyone cried over Marc except maybe his mom! Al Davis really liked tall QBs for some reason. Even when they had few other redeeming values.

    • @waynetompkins3006
      @waynetompkins3006 15 дней назад

      ​@@ryanjacobson2508Marc Wilson was miscast as a Raider. He would have been half decent in Seattle or Denver.

  • @alexpumpkin4551
    @alexpumpkin4551 17 дней назад

    We can see from your room/top shelf how impartial you are

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  16 дней назад +1

      I literally have helmets and autographed jerseys for every single team in the NFL that I swap out in each video based on who I’m talking about

  • @camerondelamotte159
    @camerondelamotte159 17 дней назад

    who

  • @sleigh4019
    @sleigh4019 18 дней назад

    Its not close Gronk was just a different man ...

    • @markjames8664
      @markjames8664 18 дней назад +2

      Gronk had the huge advantage of playing with Tom Brady, so it is hard to evaluate exactly how good he’d be otherwise (probably very good but not likely to match the magic connection he had with Brady).

  • @Reaperx420
    @Reaperx420 13 дней назад +2

    In this video you talked in circles you literally said the same thing at least five times I'm just saying. It's annoying

    • @CaseyWinehouse
      @CaseyWinehouse 10 дней назад

      Yeah idk why I occasionally watch his videos. His voice and his scripts and his critiques are annoying as fuck.

  • @tonythomas2391
    @tonythomas2391 18 дней назад

    Maybe Barnes was xenophobic or an isolationist.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 18 дней назад

      Nah, he was just a woke Cal hippie dudebro who probably thought the whole idea of keeping score was bigoted somehow.

  • @deadend1041
    @deadend1041 18 дней назад +5

    This is right about the time I dialed out of watching football. I wanted to watch the national football league I have no interest in watching the international football league. I have no interest in watching football that is also marketed to my wife. I would watch football if it was a program marketed to me, and for me, as it was in the 60s 70s and 80s. The game died in the mid-nineties and it will never achieve the heights it had again

  • @TommyD1213
    @TommyD1213 13 дней назад

    Tony Gonzalez also would’ve been a first round NBA pick if he went that route