Now I've got a problem. Well, a few weeks ago I switched to Reaper, but that's not the problem, quite the contrary! The problem is now that I discovered the tutorial videos of Kenny, I CAN'T STOP WATCHING THEM! They're too good to miss. But seriously, Kenny, huge thanks for all of your great, valuable videos!
Compare it side-by-side with your best sounds from external plug-ins . . . REAPER has good compressors but some hardware emulation alternatives add their own characteristics, and in the master chains where you're done with the drastic creative changes to individual tracks, and moving on to subtle tweaks, the choice of plugin itself is part of how you shape the sound creatively. There is often an algorithm closest to ideal-sounding for a particular purpose to start with, even if it is for the same end goal, and if you don't build it from scratch, more plugins come in handy. If it's saturation, reverb, synthesis . . . those all benefit from having their own tones, so looking beyond starts to make sense.
Thanks a lot for your easy to follow tutorials! It's great that you pick smaller aspects for your videos and don't try to put all the tricks in there. I learnt a lot from your channel so far!
I've been watching your videos on the reaper web site and came here to sub, and to post a thank you. The amount of time you have saved me, and how much more I will be able to do with reaper after your video's - is mind boggling. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the time and effort you have put in to this. Because of you I'm a dedicated reaper'er, and you have made a huge difference in my musical journey. ❤
Great video! I’ve read and seen stuff about gluing a mix and I’ve fumbled around trying to do this, but this provides the best guide I’ve come across. So very clear. Thanks, as always.
I'm wondering why you needed a multiband compressor, when you are doing the exact same thing to all 3 bands. That's my only question. Another great tutorial, as always!!!
Compressing the 3 bands separately, the exact same way is VERY different than doing them all together. For example, when the kick drum hits, it's not going to compress the mids and highs. Only the lows. So it's containing each freq range separately.
Thanks for this QnA thread. I had the same Q... and best of all... the A's make perfect sense! 🤗😘 Probably obvious to the pros, but not at all to weekend warriors like me. Thanks again
@@garyewart9185 The funny thing is I knew about compressing the lows separately, but since he didn't make any changes to the lows, I was thinking about it as if it was the same as compressing it all as one. I like to tame the compression on the lows.
This single tip changed everything. I'm straight up going through old mixes and no matter how rough, i can make them sound massive. Audio engineering schools hate this one tip lmao scroll for more
Simple instructions/direction, good visual movement throughout the screen! You make the best Reaper videos on RUclips man! Keep up the good work. New sub for life 💪
all time reaper user here, love your content. alltough in this video the multiband does no gain reduction it seems, it's only adding the auto-gain and with that it's adding to the more volume = brain likes better issue. basically you're just bringing down transients with the fast comp and limiter while making everything louder at all stages.
Having all the thresholds the same on the multi-band won't work because the levels drop off as the frequency increases which means the low end is getting more compression. You probably shouldn't link them and then adjust by ear as needed in conjunction with the analyzer.
been using this program for years and didn't know you could view the master track. i'm also an amateur and didn't go to school for this so don't know all the options, but wow how helpful
Your videos alleviate SO much frustration !!! LOL... The two compressors you use in this video are so much simpler to use than what I have been using, easy to understand. Thanks again, and kee p up the good work.
@@richardjecooke8036 that's technically not wrong though, because purpose of final master is make optimal dynamic range, so it obviously gets louder, you'd still want to disable that JS Volume trim before rendering :D
Dang, I'd love for you to mix/master one of my tracks Kenny. I'm decent at it but you know all the tricks to really dial in a song. That 1175 trick was really cool keeping the volume/output the same as you adjusted the threshold. I hope to get this good over time and your videos always help me out.
Should say MASTERING in the title. This is great, thanks! One question though. Since you say it can affect the levels in your mix and that you have to readjust, do you keep this chain on during your mixing process?
Would have been interesting to render two editions of this: One with no Plugins and one with all your Glue Chain Plugins. It is noticable louder and can fool the ears it sounds better. Render out them as wave file and then using the Extension called "loudness" to check what the loudness is of both tracks. Then adjust the difrences and play them back against eacherother to see how much of a chainge there really is.
Yeah, the processed version being louder is a problem, buy no need to render. Just take a few extra seconds on each plugin to get the makeup gain to match. Then you can easily bypass any individual plugin, or the whole chain and hear them level-matched.
I don't understand why the linking of each of the bands in the multiband compressor. Wouldn't that be the same as applying a regular compressor that compresses all the bands together equally?
Great! But, one question: why do you use a multiband compressor and then link all 3 bands together? Wouldn't this procedure make the multiband compressor stop acting like one? Thank you very much for your videos!!! Daniel from Argentina.
No. The bands are still separate. They're just treated in a similar way. But only the low end information is triggering the low end range. Same for the mids and highs. So the compression is still 100% separate.
@@REAPERMania Thanks Kenny!! I think I understand now! In other words, common compression processes all the signal together while multiband compression segments it, even though the bands are linked?
It seems like the ReaXcomp is not doing anything since all three bands had the same threshold and ratio. How is that different than a full band compress such as ReaComp?
Compressing the 3 bands separately, the exact same way is VERY different than doing them all together. For example, when the kick drum hits, it's not going to compress the mids and highs. Only the lows. So it's containing each freq range separately.
Hey there, Kenny. I don't get the purpose why you're binding all the thresholds in the xcomp. If you adjust them all by the same amount, doesn't this just mean you're compressing the song the same way as the normal compressor?! I thought the goal of the xcomp was to attend every spectrum, low high and midst, individually..
"To compress each frequency separately". Ok, but then I don't get why Kenny used the multiband compressor with the band thresholds linked together? The bands also had all the same knee, attack and release, so it was just acting like a wide-band compressor? Anyone explain why not just use ReaComp there instead?
nice. would you adjust the overall master fader to stay in the -18 to -12 db range if required? I only found out a few days ago that limiter makes things louder too.
Since all the multiband comp bands have same attack, release, ratio and theresold, I really don't understand what's the difference to use a regular comp...
The link parameter doesn’t work for me when I try it. Have watched the part of the video 5 times and done exactly this steps but it doesn’t work. Do I need to update rePer or something?
Running REAPER v6.75 in windows (64 bit) and parameter linking as instructed here does not work, either in the 1175 compressor OR the multiband compressor. My parameter linking window looks exactly like yours, and when I'm done, in the "Link from MIDI or FX parameter" window, it says: "1(self): 1175 Compressor: 1: Threshold (db)" just like yours does (at 2:49 in the video), and it also shows them linked in the drop-down menu - but they are not actually linked. Any ideas?
I don’t understand the point of using a multi band compressor if you’re just going to compress all the bands the same amount at the same time? Perhaps someone can set me straight, please? Tia
The settings are the same for each band, but the signal each band is reacting to is different. So the lowest band will mostly be reacting to the kick and bass guitar. The highest band will mostly be reacting to high hat and cymbals. Etc.
My comnent go to the Reaper programmers. Please, a way as good as Reaper to organize plugins. Reaper deserves it. And my personal request goes to a way to keep the track color only around the leds close to the audio and midi itens. So we can work with no need of wearing sunglasses. Because colors are cool (not these cargo ones in thus video, of course).
No, No, *No*. This has *absolutely nothing* to do with the big bads ("reapers") from Mass Effect. Boooo, YT algorithm, go to your room! Hmm...I wonder if I should watch this anyway for the editing that I do in Vegas?
So I did the same procedure in a new (empty) project tab, it worked, Copy and paste ReaXcomp to the old tab, doesn't work. Copy to another new tab, it works. Huh?
Saved the working example as an FX chain. Didn't work in the old tab, works in a new one. If I copy the non-working example to a new project tab, it works. Help!
@@sachetsofrelish and @REAPER Mania: Oddly, the "save a non-working example, but just move it to another track and it works" trick worked for me - SOMETIMES. I cannot get it to work consistently, or with an entire chain of effects, like the 1175 -> into the XComp -> into Realimit. And it NEVER works, if I try to move an effect (or chain) into the Master Track. Serious frustrating bug here...
@@whoreshoe I tend to keep the music lower in most of my videos but I felt that people would want to hear the music in this video louder to hear the slight changes.
Now I've got a problem. Well, a few weeks ago I switched to Reaper, but that's not the problem, quite the contrary! The problem is now that I discovered the tutorial videos of Kenny, I CAN'T STOP WATCHING THEM! They're too good to miss. But seriously, Kenny, huge thanks for all of your great, valuable videos!
i lu kenny too but you glazing
I love your tutorials, there’s not an ounce of fat on them, you always get to the point with concise instructions. Appreciate this content
Kenny, that was literally the best class on mastering I have ever watched. No reason to ever buy any external plugins at this point.
And I'm not a mastering engineer.
Compare it side-by-side with your best sounds from external plug-ins . . . REAPER has good compressors but some hardware emulation alternatives add their own characteristics, and in the master chains where you're done with the drastic creative changes to individual tracks, and moving on to subtle tweaks, the choice of plugin itself is part of how you shape the sound creatively. There is often an algorithm closest to ideal-sounding for a particular purpose to start with, even if it is for the same end goal, and if you don't build it from scratch, more plugins come in handy. If it's saturation, reverb, synthesis . . . those all benefit from having their own tones, so looking beyond starts to make sense.
@@REAPERMania I beg to differ....Great Job kenny!
Where is it?
I never knew about that method of parameter modulation linking certain sliders. That's amazing. Thanks Kenny!
You just made my song sound like a hit. Literally from garage recording to a radio song. I didn't know about this at all.
Thanks Kenny. You’ve basically explained mastering to us all. Have a great day.
Thanks a lot for your easy to follow tutorials! It's great that you pick smaller aspects for your videos and don't try to put all the tricks in there. I learnt a lot from your channel so far!
Thanks for the tips. This should help a tonne.
I've been watching your videos on the reaper web site and came here to sub, and to post a thank you. The amount of time you have saved me, and how much more I will be able to do with reaper after your video's - is mind boggling. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the time and effort you have put in to this. Because of you I'm a dedicated reaper'er, and you have made a huge difference in my musical journey. ❤
Same, I bought Reaper after Watching a couple of Kenny's videos it's easily worth the asking price.
Great video! I’ve read and seen stuff about gluing a mix and I’ve fumbled around trying to do this, but this provides the best guide I’ve come across. So very clear. Thanks, as always.
This is what I've been wanting for my mixes. I could hear it in pro mixes but never knew how to go after it. Thanks Kenny!
I'm wondering why you needed a multiband compressor, when you are doing the exact same thing to all 3 bands. That's my only question. Another great tutorial, as always!!!
The hign end or the low end are not hiting at the exact same time, so it doesn't always compress all the signal
Compressing the 3 bands separately, the exact same way is VERY different than doing them all together. For example, when the kick drum hits, it's not going to compress the mids and highs. Only the lows. So it's containing each freq range separately.
@@REAPERMania Ah, that makes sense! Thank you. 🙂
Thanks for this QnA thread. I had the same Q... and best of all... the A's make perfect sense! 🤗😘
Probably obvious to the pros, but not at all to weekend warriors like me. Thanks again
@@garyewart9185 The funny thing is I knew about compressing the lows separately, but since he didn't make any changes to the lows, I was thinking about it as if it was the same as compressing it all as one. I like to tame the compression on the lows.
This single tip changed everything. I'm straight up going through old mixes and no matter how rough, i can make them sound massive. Audio engineering schools hate this one tip lmao scroll for more
Simple instructions/direction, good visual movement throughout the screen! You make the best Reaper videos on RUclips man! Keep up the good work. New sub for life 💪
You are a legend Kenny ! Thanks for your wisdom and your dedication !
all time reaper user here, love your content. alltough in this video the multiband does no gain reduction it seems, it's only adding the auto-gain and with that it's adding to the more volume = brain likes better issue. basically you're just bringing down transients with the fast comp and limiter while making everything louder at all stages.
Another total eye opener. Just what the doctor ordered. Again. Thanks
Having all the thresholds the same on the multi-band won't work because the levels drop off as the frequency increases which means the low end is getting more compression. You probably shouldn't link them and then adjust by ear as needed in conjunction with the analyzer.
been using this program for years and didn't know you could view the master track. i'm also an amateur and didn't go to school for this so don't know all the options, but wow how helpful
Your videos alleviate SO much frustration !!! LOL... The two compressors you use in this video are so much simpler to use than what I have been using, easy to understand. Thanks again, and kee
p up the good work.
Nice one, Kenny! I had no idea you could link parameters like that. Gonna do that to all my compressors.
And if you save the plugin as an FX chain, it will save the linking.
ProTip - add JS Volume as a trim in the end of the chain, compensating the result total loudness when comparing bypassed FX chain ;)
Yeah, he keeps saying it sounds better when it mostly sounds louder
@@richardjecooke8036 that's technically not wrong though, because purpose of final master is make optimal dynamic range, so it obviously gets louder,
you'd still want to disable that JS Volume trim before rendering :D
@@richardjecooke8036 Compression and limiting will make it sound louder.
Dang, I'd love for you to mix/master one of my tracks Kenny. I'm decent at it but you know all the tricks to really dial in a song. That 1175 trick was really cool keeping the volume/output the same as you adjusted the threshold. I hope to get this good over time and your videos always help me out.
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most important videos
Nice one Kenny, so simple, when you do it. Makes such a difference.
Thanks for making this easy simple guide . I tried this and wow, I think the stock plugins do a great job .
Thanks Kenny very useful information. This is something i will definitely try next time I’m doing a final mix 😊
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Volume matching is key to proper A/B comparisons but I know you know that. Thanks for all your hard work.
Thanks for the great info, as usual. It is really helpful and much appreciated.
Thanks for the video!
Great as always. Thanks for the video
Thanks, Kenny.
wow... that made my song 100 times better, I was ready to give up but this improved eveything, thanks a lot!!
Love it!
You make it look easy.
Should say MASTERING in the title. This is great, thanks! One question though. Since you say it can affect the levels in your mix and that you have to readjust, do you keep this chain on during your mixing process?
Yes. In fact, this isn't mastering to me. It's Mixing. I mention early in the video that I put this on very early in the Mixing process. Thanks
Is this mastering process you did? Or just finishing step mix and then mastering it after this glue?
Really great video, Kenny!
wow .... what a great, orderly explanation ... many thanks!
Thanks Kenny very useful information!!!
Excellent presentation Kenny .. keep those coming and happy new year to you and your family :)
You too.
K. is THE man!
U single handedly taught me reaper about out Kenny...
That was really great. I have so much to learn. Thank you, Kenny
Oh! You are Master! Thanks!
Would have been interesting to render two editions of this: One with no Plugins and one with all your Glue Chain Plugins. It is noticable louder and can fool the ears it sounds better.
Render out them as wave file and then using the Extension called "loudness" to check what the loudness is of both tracks. Then adjust the difrences and play them back against eacherother to see how much of a chainge there really is.
Yeah, the processed version being louder is a problem, buy no need to render. Just take a few extra seconds on each plugin to get the makeup gain to match. Then you can easily bypass any individual plugin, or the whole chain and hear them level-matched.
I'm just showing you how I do it. Hopefully you will try it on your projects.
Always learn something! 👾
thanks for sharing
Beautiful! Thank you
Thnx Kenny...thanks for your advice 😉🎼👍🏽
Thanks for sharing all your knowledge!! Every question I have, you always have the answer :)
Nice job Mr. Gioia! Really enjoy your "producer's" view on getting things sounding good in Reaper! Subscribed :)
Thank you!
I don't understand why the linking of each of the bands in the multiband compressor. Wouldn't that be the same as applying a regular compressor that compresses all the bands together equally?
Great! But, one question: why do you use a multiband compressor and then link all 3 bands together? Wouldn't this procedure make the multiband compressor stop acting like one? Thank you very much for your videos!!!
Daniel from Argentina.
That’s what I was thinking. Kinda defeats the purpose of it being a multi band compressor
No. The bands are still separate. They're just treated in a similar way. But only the low end information is triggering the low end range. Same for the mids and highs. So the compression is still 100% separate.
@@REAPERMania Thanks Kenny!! I think I understand now! In other words, common compression processes all the signal together while multiband compression segments it, even though the bands are linked?
@@danielpisera Yes. The only thing linked is HOW they react. Not WHAT they react to.
It seems like the ReaXcomp is not doing anything since all three bands had the same threshold and ratio. How is that different than a full band compress such as ReaComp?
Compressing the 3 bands separately, the exact same way is VERY different than doing them all together. For example, when the kick drum hits, it's not going to compress the mids and highs. Only the lows. So it's containing each freq range separately.
SPASIBO! KENNY
Many thanks!
Excellent... 👍
nice work,very useful👍👏
Hey there, Kenny. I don't get the purpose why you're binding all the thresholds in the xcomp. If you adjust them all by the same amount, doesn't this just mean you're compressing the song the same way as the normal compressor?! I thought the goal of the xcomp was to attend every spectrum, low high and midst, individually..
What a big difference!
A great introduction to multi-band compression and a bit of mastering, all with built-in plugins!
Great tips! Thanks Kenny!!
"To compress each frequency separately". Ok, but then I don't get why Kenny used the multiband compressor with the band thresholds linked together? The bands also had all the same knee, attack and release, so it was just acting like a wide-band compressor? Anyone explain why not just use ReaComp there instead?
Ótimas dicas em mais este tutorial, Kenny. Thanks a lot.
What drum plug-in is used here? These sound fantastic! I'd love more about them
The free Steven Slate ones.
nice. would you adjust the overall master fader to stay in the -18 to -12 db range if required?
I only found out a few days ago that limiter makes things louder too.
tnx for sharing
so i just got MASTEPLAN plugin can i just drop that on the master track then do my mastering then render the project to upload ?
Thank you
Bingo boys, let's go.
Thanks!
Since all the multiband comp bands have same attack, release, ratio and theresold, I really don't understand what's the difference to use a regular comp...
They're still processed separately so each band is compressed based on it's signal. Not the whole signal.
@@REAPERMania oh yes! thanx
Thank you so much, this is so useful.
Kenny ? so how do I use analog gear on the master ? without using reinsert ? Please its really important.. and I can't find anything useful
thank you my good man
I don't really understand the multi band compressor if you're compressing the whole frequency range the same amount?
I'll have to save this one lol
Deep dive. Thanks Kenny. I would like to know your opinion about Tukan plugins. After all, they are built on JS.
The link parameter doesn’t work for me when I try it. Have watched the part of the video 5 times and done exactly this steps but it doesn’t work. Do I need to update rePer or something?
Is there a way to save that 1175 trick as a preset? I worked along with the video, but when I save it, the parameters aren't saved
Save it as an FX chain, rather than a preset :-)
So is it ok start mixing after adding the two compressors?
Hi Kenny, what a great idea to link gain and threshold. I followed your instructions but can't get the linking to work. Any idea why that would be?
Most likely you didn't follow my instructions exactly.
@@REAPERMania hmm, I did follow it step by step quite a few times. It is easy to understand but it's not working. Anyway, it's a great idea.
@@roberteismann1929 It's just hard for me to know what you're doing wrong without knowing what you're doing.
@@REAPERMania and now it works, how odd and also great.
Thanks a lot!
Running REAPER v6.75 in windows (64 bit) and parameter linking as instructed here does not work, either in the 1175 compressor OR the multiband compressor.
My parameter linking window looks exactly like yours, and when I'm done, in the "Link from MIDI or FX parameter" window, it says: "1(self): 1175 Compressor: 1: Threshold (db)" just like yours does (at 2:49 in the video), and it also shows them linked in the drop-down menu - but they are not actually linked.
Any ideas?
I don’t understand the point of using a multi band compressor if you’re just going to compress all the bands the same amount at the same time? Perhaps someone can set me straight, please? Tia
It's been asked and answered a few times.
The settings are the same for each band, but the signal each band is reacting to is different. So the lowest band will mostly be reacting to the kick and bass guitar. The highest band will mostly be reacting to high hat and cymbals. Etc.
My comnent go to the Reaper programmers.
Please, a way as good as Reaper to organize plugins.
Reaper deserves it.
And my personal request goes to a way to keep the track color only around the leds close to the audio and midi itens. So we can work with no need of wearing sunglasses. Because colors are cool (not these cargo ones in thus video, of course).
Last!
Second 😮
No, No, *No*.
This has *absolutely nothing* to do with the big bads ("reapers") from Mass Effect.
Boooo, YT algorithm, go to your room!
Hmm...I wonder if I should watch this anyway for the editing that I do in Vegas?
I get to 7:13 and the thresholds don't link. 3 attempts now : |
So I did the same procedure in a new (empty) project tab, it worked, Copy and paste ReaXcomp to the old tab, doesn't work. Copy to another new tab, it works. Huh?
Saved the working example as an FX chain. Didn't work in the old tab, works in a new one. If I copy the non-working example to a new project tab, it works. Help!
Solved, but I don't know how. Just undid back to before I put in ReaXcomp, reloaded it and it worked. Pardon the multi-post.
@@sachetsofrelish and @REAPER Mania: Oddly, the "save a non-working example, but just move it to another track and it works" trick worked for me - SOMETIMES.
I cannot get it to work consistently, or with an entire chain of effects, like the 1175 -> into the XComp -> into Realimit. And it NEVER works, if I try to move an effect (or chain) into the Master Track.
Serious frustrating bug here...
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is it only me, or is this video super-low resolution?
ok, restart fixed it...
i guess i'm dyslexic...i'm here to learn how mix glue...
anychance of you normalizing your volume levels.. from music to your voice it is WAY outta whak.
Which way?
Sounds pretty balanced on my phone
On studio monitors the Music is much louder than your voice instructions.. appreciate the great content!
Sounds fine for me.
@@whoreshoe I tend to keep the music lower in most of my videos but I felt that people would want to hear the music in this video louder to hear the slight changes.