That Director is a good politician. Saying a lot without saying something. As soon as she didn’t know how understaffed her department was I screamed red flag!
And here I am watching this and thinking is it ME that's recognizing the bs of words she's using of saying something while NOT saying ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL, at the same time!??!!! Thank you for making your comment❤
She is the 6th crook in 6 years to try to sweep the accountability under the jail 😢🤯 You would be a fool to buy any of the snake oil she is selling the media!!
Of course, she is employed by the Federal Government! They learn the art of doublespeak. Especially the BOP. There prisons are literally falling apart, foundations cracking, consistently understaffed, some very violent like Hazelton FCI, and they just want to keep it all swept under the rug and hush hush.
@@RadioRich100 - Considering they agreed to the interview at all is progressive. The department of corrections rarely does. Has anyone from the facility where Jeffrey Epstein was housed gone on record? The DOJ released a report with findings, but that was it. So yes, Cecilia Vega asked the best questions she would receive replies to.
Ive retired 26 years at CDCR officer. This Warden is a politician....ive been through 6 horrible wardens. When the Warden and crew is weak the whole prison system is chaotic....those officers who are sexual assaulting the inmates should do 20 years in prison. Biggest betrayal and shame.
I can say we need 1,000s more to properly staff these prisons for our staffing needs. We are understaffed and most prisons have been operating at emergency staffing capacity. Basically they reduced the staff requirements for each shift so they can say we are not understaffed. So even if we got those positions filled we would still be only filling the holes to be staffed at emergency capacity.
My mom has been in Aliceville for almost a year. There have been 3 deaths, 2 stabbings and MULTIPLE fights with severe injuries. And none reported. The treatment is awful and this interview makes me believe it even more.
I was there in 2015 to 2016 before going to Carswell. I was there when the tornado hit. This place is horrible. Forget about medical! Prayers for your mom.
This, especially staffing numbers, is clearly a longstanding problem with no quick or easy solutions. Not sure what you want hear. A false sense of security?
A female friend of mine went to prison in Colorado and it was horrible. I will not give details. Our justice system is beyond broken. Great job 60 minutes.
@chakastyles8794 Especially of all the Federal agencies, the BOP are the biggest liars and cover up artists. Dude just got murdered over at Hazelton FCI, and they won't say a word about it because it's 'under investigation.' After the heat wears off, they still never release a damn bit of information. It only gets out because the inmates find out and tell their families or a whistle blower goes to the media and they are so scared of losing their job they don't even reveal their identity.
I understood what chrisbgood2359 was saying. His comprehension skills are just fine and I believe it has much relevance. Maybe you should reread what you wrote.
People who have never been in prison don’t need to “thank god” that they aren’t in prison. Their choice to not break the law is what ensures they don’t go. I never thank a higher power that supposedly exists that I have never been to prison. I just don’t commit crimes
It's not her job to apologize? How hard would it be to say on behalf of the Department of Corrections we're sorry, we let you down and failed to protect you. She needs to be fired.
I spent over 3 years in aliceville it was awful except for the education dept it was the only place that I felt safe got my GED while there thanks to mr.williams and Mr harris
I wish there was a Federal living wage paying job guarantee available for everyone who is healthy enough to work, and not busy work, but productive jobs in every sector of the job market, so the jobs aren't repetitive hell type jobs that burn people out
Prisoner volunteer here, was optimistic to see this. She is a good speaker and seems compassionate, however it is disturbing that she did not know … even an estimate, for fully staffing the institution. That is CORE to her job and in my view a huge red flag.
New fan of Cecilia. Great way to be so tenacious and keeping your foot on her neck 😁 She didn't let her run from the questions. You was her boss when questioning her. I know she hated that
People are getting raped and murdered. And the Director of prison says: She refuses to apologize and says she’s doing a tremendous job. That’s all you need to know about the PIC
Very naive comment. There are 43 rape lawsuits right in now in BOP. She will no comment during ongoing lawsuits, that's common legal strategy. Obviously, you've never been sued, your comment basically admits that fact.
Maybe she should be locked up for a year or two and she could walk in the person shoes treated them with respect and then get it back give lots of progress and keep them busy give them heat and ac and u can see your treated with respect
"They're short staffed all the time." Direct quote from an inmate who has no idea how to manage a prison, let alone an entire Bureau of Prisons, but she sees and experiences it on a daily basis. The non-answer Director can't even tell you, after 2 years, how many staff the Bureau needs to operate her facilities. She been before congress on more than one occasion and can almost NEVER give a straight answer. They chose her for this roll precisely because of her lack of integrity and the ability to politician her way through any interview or hearing. She really is a master of her craft at the expense of her subordinates. Who chose the appointee that chose her again?
lol, she knew the number. But she couldn't say she was short 8,000 guards, or even 4,000. Such a disclosure would've opened the feds to massive tort claims.
It's the same thing Gavin Newsom said when the President of China came to San Francisco and they cleared out the tents and piles of feces for the first time in years.
@jjpurcell2845. I’m sorry for your YA experiences, but I hope you can say they were formative & informative for you in a manner that you can be thankful not to re-live! I KNOW I’ve seen this same director interviewed elsewhere, on another documentary! Not so smoothly adroit with answers before, though! I wonder myself sometimes who feeds sharks the nifty vocabulary words I know they didn’t gravitate toward on their own-because they’d have an indicting effect on their own narc tendencies!! I don’t doubt the penal colonial aspects of incarceration. I hope you’ve recovered and have found purpose, decent people to bide along with, & better options for yourself, for your own family’s sake. It’s no accident that such people find employment in s godless, soulless vocation today. IF (& when) the society reaches critical-mass on living in medieval conditions & constructs that it finds “romantic” somehow, currently, all of the penal institutions will be re-formed or abolished altogether as failed experiments. Asylums & sanitariums did. The Bastille did. I suspect they only still exist to give emotional elevation to psycho/sociopaths who run them & reap the profits from them. Of course, corporate entities profit, too. It’s a greasy pole. I don’t remember which documentary featured this director but it can be found on YT for anyone looking. Stay well, Stay Blessed, & enjoy inner-PEACE. ❄️🪷🕯⚖️🌸🪷❄️
@@Sagadrequiemcops take people in the back where there's no cameras and do whatever. They have their own little gang and if they don't like the way you behaved they will handcuff you and take you to a room with no cameras and beat you. I seen it in Oregon youth authority under Colette Peters and I seen it in Oregon department of corrections under her.
"I don't know if it's my job to appologize to the inmates.." 🤯😪 What a cold, callous, heartless statement!! What she meant to say through this interview is that it is her job to control the narrative and work tirelessly to create no accountability on paper for her staff and administration.. Everything we seen as viewers was staged, it's called the "dog and pony show" where your instructed to smile and say the least amount possible or else! Iykyk 👀🗣️
They are Officers, not guards. It's like calling a college professor a teacher or a staffer or like calling a doctor a nurse or a medical helper. Please respect others by using their correct career titles.
Former BOP HRM here, I can't tell you how many times funding got cut and we had to rescind job offers after going through the lengthy hiring process. Then to turn around for another round of recruiting/hiring. Very disheartening and frustrating, for HR staff along with line staff who need help. Never cuts at the regional or central office levels though...
She's filling one of those emergency spots that's why. I was reading another comment that stated "she hadn't been able to count in 2yrs." Reason she didn't provide the number of job vacancies. She probably know. She just wanted to give political correct answers🚮
Being in charge of keeping human beings locked away ain’t a job I would feel proud of. It does take a certain type to do corrections and remain human yourself. My hat is off to the thousands who do a good job at it.
This lady is getting on my nerves. She can't just say that allegations will be looked into, when those who make the allegations will be silenced. It just drives me insane.
I used to work with a former womens' prison guard. He told me about some of this. It's horrific. But the trash flows both ways. He talked about inmate manipulation of guards; vendettas against guards that turned into false accusations; inmate civil wars that pitted guard against guard...it was like a mini world in there, complete with politics and organized crime. Plus the outside influence, as many inmates have criminal connections outside the walls. But he also emphasized the cliques within the guard force itself. How protection of one and sacrifice of another was as common as clocking in for your shift.
I have a buddy who worked as a guard at San Quinton for years. He told me that the staff - his peers - were more difficult and treacherous to deal with than the inmates (in general).
This is why we should never depend on the government for anything, including welfare, healthcare, education etc. We have the best example of how the government has funded a society, including healthcare, welfare, education, monthly stipend, etc. Native Americans. Its terrible!
I no a lady that a prison nurse at Julia tuckwyler prison here in Alabama and she makes $32 hr. That good money in Alabama. This was a one sided story to try make victims out of women
@@shevyman6430 Agree…it definitely depends on where these jobs are located. Where I am, that would be hard to afford rent for a one bedroom; it’s probably not possible as I think about it.
The real issue is Judges sentencing extensive prison terms, knowing the system is flawed. Non violent crimes need more alternatives. It's all a money grab.
Federal Judges sentence people using federal guidelines, in fact they have less discretion than state and county judges. Your comment shows a lack of knowledge of the legal system…
I tried to get into corrections in AZ and was asked to reapply in one year because I was honest with my drug history. The irony being that history will never change. The whole system is a mess.
Without going too much into detail I had smoked cannabis 20-30 times with last use being a year or two prior and maybe 100-150 uses of street opiates mostly Percocet. This would have been in 2016.
My cousin Bob (RIP) taught English to prison inmates in Indiana. He had an interesting perspective on it. I produced an local NPR affiliate program for KWSU in 1972 where we interviewed the Chicano inmates at Walla Walla State prison; the host of the program was a young media student who eventually got his PhD.
She's a politician, nothing she said sounded genuine. Her smile was painted on, she meant nothing of what she said. She wants to be governor or even practicing for her presidential run. This is horrible, so phoney.
Boy.....this woman sure knows how to side-step a question. She's not a warden or a superintend, she's a slippery politician. And not responsible for anything bad that happens. "Not up to me to apologize for someone getting raped" while we're supposed to keep them safe while we have them locked up in here, and I'm the person in charge.
“Human behavior can’t be predicted.” Yes…. It can? Not with perfect accuracy. But there are warning signs when it comes to dangerous, predatory, violent behavior on part of guards etc. It’s just they choose to ignore them because of the financial cost
_"Many people in your custody are there because of _*_horrific_*_ crimes, why do they deserve compassion?"_ _"Because 95% of them are gonna come back to our community someday...'_ And THEREIN lies the PROBLEM.
Well as a voice within “the agency “ was there nothing that you could’ve done to assist with the reforming? Nothing you could’ve said? Spoke up about? As a former occupant of this prison, I can speak on the mistreatment that these women endure.
@@lettjones9990lol, he was most likely a nobody. Also, did you watch the expose? How about the part about retaliation? There's a culture of fear. Have you ever heard this saying? "He who tells the truth better have one foot in the stirup?"
He was training people to pray on weekends. She will never know what goes on because prison office just like police officers cover up for others all the time.
Tess is no hero or "Whistle Blower"... I worked with her. She was having an affair with the former Warden. When he got caught up, she is now embarrassed and doing everything in her power to do damage control in hopes that she's not discovered. It's true what they say about throwing stones in a glass house... she ruined her own marriage to be with a Warden who was sleeping with inmates behind her back! 😅
I worked in state prison system for 4 years and the officers that are there are over worked doing extra days and not having a much time off. There is always officers that just hang out with the higher ups while other officers are made to pick slack up so it makes you not want to show up when your not appreciated and always made to do someone else's work while they relax cause they are buddies with a sgt or Lt
I worked 28 years as a correctional officer before retiring in 2012. You hit the nail on the head with your explanation of how things work in the joint.
She is doing an outstanding job of not answering any questions with any facts. Politicians shouldn’t have jobs where they don’t take any accountability.
I was in federal prison for 2 years. Its disgusting, shameful and heartbreaking. I served this country and then was locked up by this country. America is not what you think it is.
60 Minutes: Why are we here? Peters: Because I believe in transparency. 60 Minutes: How understaffed are you? Peters: I’ll get back to you. What a joke.
The reason why so many prisons are understaffed because a lot of the institutions are in locations where people do not want to live. Not to mention, a lot of individuals cannot pass the drug test or have good credit.
My thoughts on her interaction with a young boy with a knife 🔪 were Instant red flags. She wanted to help him...1. a quick emotional statement! etc etc etc.
Impressed by Ms. Vega's reporting and pursuit of hard truths despite the Director's inability to provide answers of substance to many of her questions. Clearly the Director of Prisons is in that role solely because of her ability to be evasive when confronted with the uncomfortable facts- her organization is failing to adequately protect the people they have legal custody of.
Am a former Federal Inmate.... go back amd check if they are in the shu.... I PROMISE u if they aren't, it's because they know you were coming. I knew 2 of the women that sat in the small groups you interviewed.... they are telling the truth. It's being cleaned up and we don't have a voice except once a year when the group of people come and check out the prisons once a year. They tel us we can let them know anything but when we try and speak to some of them the COs and Warden stand there and make it uncomfortable and or impossible to speak freely about what's happening. They lie lie lie and they DO punish you for speaking up. Everytime
I'm so glad people are seeing through her bull crap. Also, they are officers, NOT security guards. They interact with the same detainees that the street cop do. Yet inside the prisons & and jails, they are disrespected, stripped of their titles called guards. I am so shocked that they are now allowing civilian staff to play the role of Correction Officers after they gutted the Correction Officers staff & budget starting 1998 while packing & adding financial money to police budget & departments nationwide. This practice has to stop, and the nationwide has to be aware of how jobs are being funneled to a selected few of people in all industries. In addition, this modern-day type of enslavement has to be stopped. The people behind bars are someone's mother, daughters, son father,uncle, friend, aunt, niece, nephew. Where is our humanity. 😢
Great interview from Natalie and the director stating she does not know if her job warrants an apology is crazy. People are in these roles should be held with accountability too.
The cost for American taxpayers is 8 billion dollars... inmates who work get $1.50 per hour, there is a 40% reduction in staff...all that being said where is 8 billion dollars going to and why are Americans on the hook for that money? The government should be footing the bill because I can guarantee that if they were, there would be reform after reform acts coming out of government.
Private prisons are some of it. The cost to operate is another part, we keep building more and more prisons because the sentences are so severe that people are doing years and years. If you want to get the best bang for your buck, you have shorter sentences that are more intensive, more rehabilitative and fewer prisons. It's going to require society standing up and saying this to make any kind of change. The old Boomer mentality of lock them up forever is not only ineffective, it's draconian and sadistic
It has gotten absolutely ridiculous. Al Capone got 11 years. Think about what that guy did. Today they hand out a sentence like that for a whole variety of things. If anything more people need to go to jail for a shorter period of time. What I'm saying is no more 10 and 20 years sentences for things where people aren't dead but a lot more 1 to 3 month sentences for people ripping off stores, destroying properties etc etc
"Sounds like she already decided on the sentence before hearing the crime" Yep, she dodges like a bureaucrat. BUT! I'd hope someone in that position would have thought through general issues like that. Hearing Specific crimes are for AG's and judges.
@@gen-X-trader The problem is 1 to 3 months doesn't change anyone. They get out, they do it again and again and again. If you want to fix the problem, give them 2 years with a mandatory college program. I believe 100% in providing services in prison for people to better themselves, but I don't think 1 to 3 months fixes anything. We can both agree prison by itself does nothing to solve crime. So if you can't learn new skills and change your lifestyle in 1 to 3 months, why even send them to prison at all? If a women is raped (not killed), is 3 months enough for the life time of trauma that women will live through? Countries who are the toughest on crimes have the lowest crime rates. Can you really say tough on crime is not effective?
@@heyaisdabomb I agree. The one two three months is people ripping off stores, doing property damage. Hooligan stuff. If you're dealing drugs, I don't just mean giving your buddy a pill, I mean like quantity. Hurting people, yeah years makes sense. A lot of first time offenders I have worked with though. They lacked structure. They weren't evil people. They were just careless. they didn't learn how to behave in the world. Bringing the construction programs back to prison. Great idea. College classes, great idea. Making sure first time offenders are only time offenders. Great idea. Not giving people 10 years plus on crimes where you don't have dead bodies. Also a great idea. Too many 18 to 25-year-old kids get caught up in drugs, teen girls or some type of thievery. Setting them up with life breaking consequences. None of us benefit from that. I think another way to say it, is basically regardless of what you've done, there should be some type of way out. Some way to redeem yourself. Think of all that tax revenue the government can make. Think of all the families the ones suffer because that one person who caught a crime 10 years ago could actually move on with his life. not just work the worst jobs. I'm all for making people prove it, but give them the ability to do so
If you abuse prisoners, you should be put in the same prison cells you were trusted to protect. You made a choice. No limit to consequence. Also..prisoners complaining about facilities will always be ironic to me since they chose prison over productive lives.
Augmentation happens when training is going on at the prisons or allotment of so many a year. Gotta pay us more to retain and get people to want to join the BOP. Giving new hires a sign on bonus but can’t give staff who stay an incentive? The way in house jobs are going to people on the street so anyone in custody won’t be able to get them because they don’t want to lose anymore people in custody. How’s that fair to the person wanting to make more money for there family? Taking money away from them is how I see it. I work for the BOP and I like my job. Fixing an institution starts from the top and comes down and morale is a big thing. Some prisons in the BOP do have trouble staffing an institution when the location they put them and type of facility it is. Also if a Convict/ Inmate wants to change for the better they will, but some don’t. You can try helping with programs or trade job type of program. The thing is some rather be locked up then free because that’s all they know. The state I live in the C/O will make 92,000 a year based on salary with NO Overtime. Lots of people are going to the state then the feds. You top out quicker as an officer for the state than the feds. I hope to be out of custody one day cause that’s my goal.
I spent 6 months in this prison camp. It was awful when i was there a tornado hit the prison. And the women going to school for ged at the camp had being waiting to take test for years before i got there
Me too. Think about it on every groundhog day and Thank God we made it without anyone getting hurt. How they treated the ladies that was in the prison was awful.
My dad was the Warden at Texarkana FCI in the early seventies. My family followed him from Terre Haute to Leavenworth to The DC Bureau to Morgantown Youth Center to Texarkana… we grew up around federal felons.
That’s good she became a nurse after doing jail time. Very motivating for people that believe they are never able to be successful in life with a felony.
Changing the subject, are you? The story was about FEDERAL PRISONS, misconduct and incompetence of FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. Without private contract facilities, the prison systems in the US would be worse. Most of the inmates held are convicted in state court.
“The director of the federal Bureau of Prisons was scolded Wednesday by members of the Senate Judiciary Committee who say her lack of transparency is hampering their ability to help fix the agency, which has long been plagued by staffing shortages, chronic violence and other problems.” The Registar- Guard
@@ilovemytribeThey just lie and tell their husbands they're the father 😂. Have to make sure to cheat with the proper color for skin matching, though.
I worked adult corrections for 6 months, I just was not "wound tight enough" to deal with the job. Went to juvenile corrections and worked 5 years, there was a sense of hope in that environment that you could not feel in the adult system.
Prisons all over the United States should be reformed. Most prisoners are not treated like they are human beings. They are not given medical treatment like they should. The people who are there to protect them are not. Every prison in the United States should be investigated by the FBI.
That Director is a good politician. Saying a lot without saying something. As soon as she didn’t know how understaffed her department was I screamed red flag!
And here I am watching this and thinking is it ME that's recognizing the bs of words she's using of saying something while NOT saying ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL, at the same time!??!!! Thank you for making your comment❤
She is the 6th crook in 6 years to try to sweep the accountability under the jail 😢🤯
You would be a fool to buy any of the snake oil she is selling the media!!
Thats exactly what i thought, “shes a good politician”
I agree 💯💯
I agree 100%. She has an answer for EVERYTHING!! I liked the 60 Minutes reporter who kept her on point!!
I'm glad Cecilia Vega didn't stop asking tough questions. You can tell the warden interviewed has had media training.
Of course, she is employed by the Federal Government! They learn the art of doublespeak. Especially the BOP. There prisons are literally falling apart, foundations cracking, consistently understaffed, some very violent like Hazelton FCI, and they just want to keep it all swept under the rug and hush hush.
I believed every word the inmates said, it was all staged. The Director is useless!!!
Those questions werent tough, why didnt anybody ask "why are male guard watching female prisoners and vise versa" Theres no reason for that.
@@RadioRich100 - Considering they agreed to the interview at all is progressive. The department of corrections rarely does. Has anyone from the facility where Jeffrey Epstein was housed gone on record? The DOJ released a report with findings, but that was it. So yes, Cecilia Vega asked the best questions she would receive replies to.
@@mepulley7913 No its not, its just a dog and pony show. Cheatle agreed to an interview also.
Ive retired 26 years at CDCR officer. This Warden is a politician....ive been through 6 horrible wardens. When the Warden and crew is weak the whole prison system is chaotic....those officers who are sexual assaulting the inmates should do 20 years in prison. Biggest betrayal and shame.
AGREE. 20 YEARS NO PAROLE.
Love if they did one on the warden where the Jan 6ers are being held.
You can tell by every answer.
Sounds like you worked at ciw??😂😂
I agree except for your punishment. They should be sanctioned.
The reporter is really good. Her questions are very sound and candid.
As soon as she couldnt or wouldnt provide the # of guards needed to fully staff the prison, I knew, she's a future politician......
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I can say we need 1,000s more to properly staff these prisons for our staffing needs. We are understaffed and most prisons have been operating at emergency staffing capacity. Basically they reduced the staff requirements for each shift so they can say we are not understaffed. So even if we got those positions filled we would still be only filling the holes to be staffed at emergency capacity.
Well, she is a bureaucrat --- no different from a politician, really.
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My mom has been in Aliceville for almost a year. There have been 3 deaths, 2 stabbings and MULTIPLE fights with severe injuries. And none reported. The treatment is awful and this interview makes me believe it even more.
I'm so sorry about your mom. 😔
Don't commit crimes and you won't be in prison.
@@MonkeyDeliciousignorance.
I was there when it first opened it was 100 of us
I was there in 2015 to 2016 before going to Carswell. I was there when the tornado hit. This place is horrible. Forget about medical! Prayers for your mom.
She’s good at speaking without saying anything
Indeed
She sounds a lot like Kamala.
This, especially staffing numbers, is clearly a longstanding problem with no quick or easy solutions. Not sure what you want hear. A false sense of security?
Absolutely disastrous interview by this “mouthpiece”.
She won’t make it a year.
@@erikcampen3246Dude we get it. No need to post the same thing 20 times
A female friend of mine went to prison in Colorado and it was horrible. I will not give details. Our justice system is beyond broken. Great job 60 minutes.
Why not ?
It is prison. it's not meant to be a country club.
6 directors in 6 years, and the current director is a master of political double speak… Expect that her name appearing on a ballot paper somewhere.
Sad but probably true. Prison reform is a true need. But I think investing in education and children is where it needs to begin.
She has nothing to do with 6 directors. The other five served under the trump mal-administration, the last one resigned in disgrace.
@sandgroper1970 I was thinking the same thing. She is in protective mode, I don’t believe anything she says…
@@kimberlyenglehardt5770hell yeah, get to them before they go to prison!
@chakastyles8794 Especially of all the Federal agencies, the BOP are the biggest liars and cover up artists. Dude just got murdered over at Hazelton FCI, and they won't say a word about it because it's 'under investigation.' After the heat wears off, they still never release a damn bit of information. It only gets out because the inmates find out and tell their families or a whistle blower goes to the media and they are so scared of losing their job they don't even reveal their identity.
Anytime I have a rough day at work I just watch one of these episodes and thank god I’m not in prison. It looks like hell on earth.
Most of us abide by the law so we dont have to.
@@chrisbgood2359 your reading comprehension is that of a third grader. Your reply has no relevance on what I commented.
I understood what chrisbgood2359 was saying. His comprehension skills are just fine and I believe it has much relevance. Maybe you should reread what you wrote.
People who have never been in prison don’t need to “thank god” that they aren’t in prison. Their choice to not break the law is what ensures they don’t go. I never thank a higher power that supposedly exists that I have never been to prison. I just don’t commit crimes
The lack of compassion and empathy in the comments is awful. The level of undeserved self superiority and ego is sicking.
It's not her job to apologize? How hard would it be to say on behalf of the Department of Corrections we're sorry, we let you down and failed to protect you. She needs to be fired.
I agree
I mean 6 directors in 6 years the BOP is bad but give her a chance to do better first
@acdc123456781 She didn't even know how many officers they need to be fully functional. She sounds like a politician and should be fired
What is BOP
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Bureau Of Prisons.
I worked as a Prison Officer for 15 years in the UK 🇬🇧. As she said, people walk by the prison not even knowing it’s there.
I spent over 3 years in aliceville it was awful except for the education dept it was the only place that I felt safe got my GED while there thanks to mr.williams and Mr harris
I wish there was a Federal living wage paying job guarantee available for everyone who is healthy enough to work, and not busy work, but productive jobs in every sector of the job market, so the jobs aren't repetitive hell type jobs that burn people out
Inmates did say it was staged 6:31 but isn’t jail suppose to be “awful”?!?! There need to be some level of deterrence 🤔
Tell us more about your life after prison. Did you get a job? How’s it going for you
How did you decide on that randomly generated looking user neme?
Not sure what crime you were convicted of but I would be interested as to how safe your victims felt while you were committing the crime.
Prisoner volunteer here, was optimistic to see this. She is a good speaker and seems compassionate, however it is disturbing that she did not know … even an estimate, for fully staffing the institution. That is CORE to her job and in my view a huge red flag.
She know everything. Most of them are all the same in one best belive. PR training is a good thing lol.
It’s good to see real investigative reporting happening from a legacy program like this.
LEFTIST PROPAGANDA AT ITS BEST
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You're kidding, right? This was a total candy coated whitewash.
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@@BiffJohnsonIII now Biff, tsk tsk.
New fan of Cecilia. Great way to be so tenacious and keeping your foot on her neck 😁 She didn't let her run from the questions. You was her boss when questioning her. I know she hated that
People are getting raped and murdered. And the Director of prison says: She refuses to apologize and says she’s doing a tremendous job. That’s all you need to know about the PIC
Yeah, think about that before you up to no good.
Very naive comment. There are 43 rape lawsuits right in now in BOP. She will no comment during ongoing lawsuits, that's common legal strategy. Obviously, you've never been sued, your comment basically admits that fact.
Maybe she should be locked up for a year or two and she could walk in the person shoes treated them with respect and then get it back give lots of progress and keep them busy give them heat and ac and u can see your treated with respect
"They're short staffed all the time." Direct quote from an inmate who has no idea how to manage a prison, let alone an entire Bureau of Prisons, but she sees and experiences it on a daily basis. The non-answer Director can't even tell you, after 2 years, how many staff the Bureau needs to operate her facilities. She been before congress on more than one occasion and can almost NEVER give a straight answer. They chose her for this roll precisely because of her lack of integrity and the ability to politician her way through any interview or hearing. She really is a master of her craft at the expense of her subordinates. Who chose the appointee that chose her again?
How does one prepare for an interview of this caliber and not know how many officers you are short ?
She was asked the same question in front of a panel about 4 months ago and said the same thing.
Botox, new suit, apparently. 😂
@@Lena-so2lq🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol, she knew the number. But she couldn't say she was short 8,000 guards, or even 4,000. Such a disclosure would've opened the feds to massive tort claims.
Why would it take 2 years to figure out staff numbers? Up your staff from day 1 and tweak as you go.
The way she says "Productive, TAX PAYING citizens." We are cattle to her.
Right so we're no longer paying to support them whether it's in prison or public housing.
Exactly my thoughts.
Somebody’s gotta foot the bill for your entitlements ! Now, pay your damn taxes!
as soon as these women realize you loss half your pay check a week to taxes, they go back to old ways
I heard it
“ and when anybody comes to your house you clean it up” 😂😂😂😂😂 interview over, we know alll that’s needed
It's the same thing Gavin Newsom said when the President of China came to San Francisco and they cleared out the tents and piles of feces for the first time in years.
I grew up in OYA under Peters. The staff under her authority were vicious, cruel people. Compassion isn't a word she should use.
Can you tell us some stuff youve seen?
@jjpurcell2845. I’m sorry for your YA experiences, but I hope you can say they were formative & informative for you in a manner that you can be thankful not to re-live!
I KNOW I’ve seen this same director interviewed elsewhere, on another documentary! Not so smoothly adroit with answers before, though!
I wonder myself sometimes who feeds sharks the nifty vocabulary words I know they didn’t gravitate toward on their own-because they’d have an indicting effect on their own narc tendencies!!
I don’t doubt the penal colonial aspects of incarceration. I hope you’ve recovered and have found purpose, decent people to bide along with, & better options for yourself, for your own family’s sake.
It’s no accident that such people find employment in s godless, soulless vocation today. IF (& when) the society reaches critical-mass on living in medieval conditions & constructs that it finds “romantic” somehow, currently, all of the penal institutions will be re-formed or abolished altogether as failed experiments. Asylums & sanitariums did. The Bastille did.
I suspect they only still exist to give emotional elevation to psycho/sociopaths who run them & reap the profits from them. Of course, corporate entities profit, too. It’s a greasy pole.
I don’t remember which documentary featured this director but it can be found on YT for anyone looking.
Stay well, Stay Blessed, & enjoy inner-PEACE. ❄️🪷🕯⚖️🌸🪷❄️
Compassion? For scumbags?
@@Sagadrequiemcops take people in the back where there's no cameras and do whatever. They have their own little gang and if they don't like the way you behaved they will handcuff you and take you to a room with no cameras and beat you. I seen it in Oregon youth authority under Colette Peters and I seen it in Oregon department of corrections under her.
@@jjpurcell8264 I believe you 😔 Oregon has a terrible history of corruption amongst ‘law enforcement’
"I don't know if it's my job to appologize to the inmates.." 🤯😪
What a cold, callous, heartless statement!!
What she meant to say through this interview is that it is her job to control the narrative and work tirelessly to create no accountability on paper for her staff and administration..
Everything we seen as viewers was staged, it's called the "dog and pony show" where your instructed to smile and say the least amount possible or else!
Iykyk 👀🗣️
Spoken like a true politician 🤢
They are Officers, not guards. It's like calling a college professor a teacher or a staffer or like calling a doctor a nurse or a medical helper.
Please respect others by using their correct career titles.
Amen. As a chef I can’t stand it when people call me a cook
She's an unelected politician... embarrassing.
The director just talking and not saying a damn thing lol
She sounds like a typical bureaucrat.
Because she is
Yes, 100%!
Former BOP HRM here, I can't tell you how many times funding got cut and we had to rescind job offers after going through the lengthy hiring process. Then to turn around for another round of recruiting/hiring. Very disheartening and frustrating, for HR staff along with line staff who need help. Never cuts at the regional or central office levels though...
I know all too well. Backwards On Purpose. Always reactive rather than proactive.
Whistle Blowers need to be in front of CONGRESS with this MESSAGE!!!
She doesn’t give a lot of confidence and seems to be just collecting a check.
She's filling one of those emergency spots that's why. I was reading another comment that stated "she hadn't been able to count in 2yrs." Reason she didn't provide the number of job vacancies. She probably know. She just wanted to give political correct answers🚮
Being in charge of keeping human beings locked away ain’t a job I would feel proud of. It does take a certain type to do corrections and remain human yourself. My hat is off to the thousands who do a good job at it.
Like most working in "the system". It's an easy check. Who is gonna complain 🤷♀️ no one cares when "they" do !
@@butameremortal9424but it’s selling your soul to hell more often than not
I mean she is the 6th Warden in 6,years. That says a lot
Anger Management is the most important skill of all.
They should have taken those classes before they got in prison
@@christinefleming8435talking about guards
Too little too late.
It’s like teaching a fifty year old to bicycle for the first time
This lady is getting on my nerves. She can't just say that allegations will be looked into, when those who make the allegations will be silenced. It just drives me insane.
Sure
@@SteveJobIess😂
I watched this for 4 minutes and lost 1/3 of my braincells.
So you have 2 left? 😂
Now your down to four
@@fodetoure1576 🤣🤣🤣 actually funny
@@Tin_Foil_Boy that’s called a stroke
The inmates sound better than the bureaucrat.
I give this woman credit for her intentions. But I have never seen anyone dodge questions better than she did in this interview.
Thank you for providing a window into prison system problems.
I used to work with a former womens' prison guard. He told me about some of this. It's horrific. But the trash flows both ways. He talked about inmate manipulation of guards; vendettas against guards that turned into false accusations; inmate civil wars that pitted guard against guard...it was like a mini world in there, complete with politics and organized crime. Plus the outside influence, as many inmates have criminal connections outside the walls. But he also emphasized the cliques within the guard force itself. How protection of one and sacrifice of another was as common as clocking in for your shift.
Don’t wanna go to Prison? Obey the Fricking Law!
Terrible!
Prison is horrible!
@@russellbrown1068they are talking about the guards too! Foolish
I have a buddy who worked as a guard at San Quinton for years. He told me that the staff - his peers - were more difficult and treacherous to deal with than the inmates (in general).
Working at a prison is never sought out and will always be this way.
Government doesn’t give enough funding for a livable wage.
This is why we should never depend on the government for anything, including welfare, healthcare, education etc. We have the best example of how the government has funded a society, including healthcare, welfare, education, monthly stipend, etc. Native Americans. Its terrible!
I no a lady that a prison nurse at Julia tuckwyler prison here in Alabama and she makes $32 hr. That good money in Alabama. This was a one sided story to try make victims out of women
they can't compete with police department pay
@@charlespatrick8650 Great point
@@shevyman6430 Agree…it definitely depends on where these jobs are located.
Where I am, that would be hard to afford rent for a one bedroom; it’s probably not possible as I think about it.
That Director talks like a seasoned politician.
Great report Cecilia
The real issue is Judges sentencing extensive prison terms, knowing the system is flawed. Non violent crimes need more alternatives. It's all a money grab.
Federal Judges sentence people using federal guidelines, in fact they have less discretion than state and county judges. Your comment shows a lack of knowledge of the legal system…
@@Manwithaplan2021 the guidelines are not always mandatory. I never claimed to be an expert.
Thanks for the wonderful producing Natalie ❤
8 billion bucks to oversee 157,000 inmates works out to over 50,000 spent per inmate. (And don’t forget they make a mint off of subminimum wages.)
It’s disgusting.
I tried to get into corrections in AZ and was asked to reapply in one year because I was honest with my drug history. The irony being that history will never change. The whole system is a mess.
They don't hire drug addicts.
i worked in a prison. you should never work in one. no dopers wanted.
Honesty doesn’t get a you anywhere. You are best try to beat the lie detector.
Being a recovering addict you don’t tell people you had a drug problem. Hopfully you learn from that mistake and keep it to yourself.
Without going too much into detail I had smoked cannabis 20-30 times with last use being a year or two prior and maybe 100-150 uses of street opiates mostly Percocet. This would have been in 2016.
My cousin Bob (RIP) taught English to prison inmates in Indiana. He had an interesting perspective on it. I produced an local NPR affiliate program for KWSU in 1972 where we interviewed the Chicano inmates at Walla Walla State prison; the host of the program was a young media student who eventually got his PhD.
I used to work for the FBOp at rhe CAPS program. This documentary is so true..
She's a politician, nothing she said sounded genuine. Her smile was painted on, she meant nothing of what she said. She wants to be governor or even practicing for her presidential run. This is horrible, so phoney.
Being a corection officer is the most dangerous and underpaid job there is! 🙏🐶💯👍🏼
Not mentioning the unpredictable environment dealing with people and staffing under immense pressure and stress
@@thegreencouchshow4029 💯
Boy.....this woman sure knows how to side-step a question. She's not a warden or a superintend, she's a slippery politician. And not responsible for anything bad that happens. "Not up to me to apologize for someone getting raped" while we're supposed to keep them safe while we have them locked up in here, and I'm the person in charge.
“Human behavior can’t be predicted.” Yes…. It can? Not with perfect accuracy. But there are warning signs when it comes to dangerous, predatory, violent behavior on part of guards etc. It’s just they choose to ignore them because of the financial cost
And a lot of innocent people are also in Federal prisons too. They don't turn them out even when a person is ordered to be released.
_"Many people in your custody are there because of _*_horrific_*_ crimes, why do they deserve compassion?"_
_"Because 95% of them are gonna come back to our community someday...'_
And THEREIN lies the PROBLEM.
So they must like the SA, right? Why else would 95% come back for more?
I can say as somebody who did 20 years and retired a couple years ago, that there are a lot of things that need to be reformed within this agency.
Well as a voice within “the agency “ was there nothing that you could’ve done to assist with the reforming? Nothing you could’ve said? Spoke up about? As a former occupant of this prison, I can speak on the mistreatment that these women endure.
@@lettjones9990lol, he was most likely a nobody. Also, did you watch the expose? How about the part about retaliation? There's a culture of fear. Have you ever heard this saying? "He who tells the truth better have one foot in the stirup?"
He was training people to pray on weekends. She will never know what goes on because prison office just like police officers cover up for others all the time.
Tess is no hero or "Whistle Blower"... I worked with her. She was having an affair with the former Warden. When he got caught up, she is now embarrassed and doing everything in her power to do damage control in hopes that she's not discovered. It's true what they say about throwing stones in a glass house... she ruined her own marriage to be with a Warden who was sleeping with inmates behind her back! 😅
Hilarious 😂
I worked in state prison system for 4 years and the officers that are there are over worked doing extra days and not having a much time off. There is always officers that just hang out with the higher ups while other officers are made to pick slack up so it makes you not want to show up when your not appreciated and always made to do someone else's work while they relax cause they are buddies with a sgt or Lt
I worked 28 years as a correctional officer before retiring in 2012. You hit the nail on the head with your explanation of how things work in the joint.
I believe it and I bet you can’t complain to anyone to fix it.
Love 60 minutes!
She is doing an outstanding job of not answering any questions with any facts. Politicians shouldn’t have jobs where they don’t take any accountability.
I was in federal prison for 2 years. Its disgusting, shameful and heartbreaking. I served this country and then was locked up by this country.
America is not what you think it is.
I’m glad she talked to the women and they spoke up 🙏🏾❤️
60 Minutes: Why are we here?
Peters: Because I believe in transparency.
60 Minutes: How understaffed are you?
Peters: I’ll get back to you.
What a joke.
The reason why so many prisons are understaffed because a lot of the institutions are in locations where people do not want to live. Not to mention, a lot of individuals cannot pass the drug test or have good credit.
My thoughts on her interaction with a young boy with a knife 🔪 were
Instant red flags. She wanted to help him...1. a quick emotional statement! etc etc etc.
Impressed by Ms. Vega's reporting and pursuit of hard truths despite the Director's inability to provide answers of substance to many of her questions. Clearly the Director of Prisons is in that role solely because of her ability to be evasive when confronted with the uncomfortable facts- her organization is failing to adequately protect the people they have legal custody of.
Interesting segment. Thanks for the great reporting.
That director is full of it. She’s not going to help anybody at all, there is a lack of transparency and compassion that seeps out of her
Prayers for them All.❤
Am a former Federal Inmate.... go back amd check if they are in the shu.... I PROMISE u if they aren't, it's because they know you were coming. I knew 2 of the women that sat in the small groups you interviewed.... they are telling the truth. It's being cleaned up and we don't have a voice except once a year when the group of people come and check out the prisons once a year. They tel us we can let them know anything but when we try and speak to some of them the COs and Warden stand there and make it uncomfortable and or impossible to speak freely about what's happening. They lie lie lie and they DO punish you for speaking up. Everytime
I'm so glad people are seeing through her bull crap. Also, they are officers, NOT security guards. They interact with the same detainees that the street cop do. Yet inside the prisons & and jails, they are disrespected, stripped of their titles called guards.
I am so shocked that they are now allowing civilian staff to play the role of Correction Officers after they gutted the Correction Officers staff & budget starting 1998 while packing & adding financial money to police budget & departments nationwide.
This practice has to stop, and the nationwide has to be aware of how jobs are being funneled to a selected few of people in all industries.
In addition, this modern-day type of enslavement has to be stopped. The people behind bars are someone's mother, daughters, son father,uncle, friend, aunt, niece, nephew. Where is our humanity. 😢
By apologizing the bureau of prisons would be admitting guilt….why would she want to loose the lawsuit?
Great interview from Natalie and the director stating she does not know if her job warrants an apology is crazy. People are in these roles should be held with accountability too.
good doc 💎💎
I really like this Director. We need more workers like her. ❤
The cost for American taxpayers is 8 billion dollars... inmates who work get $1.50 per hour, there is a 40% reduction in staff...all that being said where is 8 billion dollars going to and why are Americans on the hook for that money? The government should be footing the bill because I can guarantee that if they were, there would be reform after reform acts coming out of government.
Private prisons are some of it. The cost to operate is another part, we keep building more and more prisons because the sentences are so severe that people are doing years and years. If you want to get the best bang for your buck, you have shorter sentences that are more intensive, more rehabilitative and fewer prisons. It's going to require society standing up and saying this to make any kind of change. The old Boomer mentality of lock them up forever is not only ineffective, it's draconian and sadistic
When "the government" pays a bill, it's the taxpayers who are paying it, superbrain.
Imagine how expensive it would to have a child in daycare 24/7 for a year….. now imagine that child is a violent adult lol. It’s gonna cost a lot.
When the government pays, it is coming from tax dollars. What are you talking about?! 🤣🤣
When the government pays, it is coming from tax dollars. What are you talking about?! 🤣🤣
I always pick up hitch hikers near the prison.
You're getting the leftovers. The hot ones are put in solitary confinement 😂
"We need to send fewer people to prison for shorter periods of time." Sounds like she already decided on the sentence before hearing the crime.
It has gotten absolutely ridiculous. Al Capone got 11 years. Think about what that guy did. Today they hand out a sentence like that for a whole variety of things. If anything more people need to go to jail for a shorter period of time. What I'm saying is no more 10 and 20 years sentences for things where people aren't dead but a lot more 1 to 3 month sentences for people ripping off stores, destroying properties etc etc
Sure. A victimless drug crime. Let's make that one less.
"Sounds like she already decided on the sentence before hearing the crime" Yep, she dodges like a bureaucrat.
BUT! I'd hope someone in that position would have thought through general issues like that. Hearing Specific crimes are for AG's and judges.
@@gen-X-trader The problem is 1 to 3 months doesn't change anyone. They get out, they do it again and again and again. If you want to fix the problem, give them 2 years with a mandatory college program. I believe 100% in providing services in prison for people to better themselves, but I don't think 1 to 3 months fixes anything. We can both agree prison by itself does nothing to solve crime. So if you can't learn new skills and change your lifestyle in 1 to 3 months, why even send them to prison at all? If a women is raped (not killed), is 3 months enough for the life time of trauma that women will live through? Countries who are the toughest on crimes have the lowest crime rates. Can you really say tough on crime is not effective?
@@heyaisdabomb I agree. The one two three months is people ripping off stores, doing property damage. Hooligan stuff. If you're dealing drugs, I don't just mean giving your buddy a pill, I mean like quantity. Hurting people, yeah years makes sense. A lot of first time offenders I have worked with though. They lacked structure. They weren't evil people. They were just careless. they didn't learn how to behave in the world. Bringing the construction programs back to prison. Great idea. College classes, great idea. Making sure first time offenders are only time offenders. Great idea. Not giving people 10 years plus on crimes where you don't have dead bodies. Also a great idea. Too many 18 to 25-year-old kids get caught up in drugs, teen girls or some type of thievery. Setting them up with life breaking consequences. None of us benefit from that. I think another way to say it, is basically regardless of what you've done, there should be some type of way out. Some way to redeem yourself. Think of all that tax revenue the government can make. Think of all the families the ones suffer because that one person who caught a crime 10 years ago could actually move on with his life. not just work the worst jobs. I'm all for making people prove it, but give them the ability to do so
this director sounds like some of those govt administration characters dancing their way around Congressional lawmakers' questions. 😂
$1.50/hr to make products... sounds like recidivism would be beneficial to keep that low costing labor... hmm...
The biggest problem is the pay. I did corrections officer for 6 months with the promise of a higher pay. Never happened. The pay was 8.50 an hour
If you abuse prisoners, you should be put in the same prison cells you were trusted to protect. You made a choice. No limit to consequence. Also..prisoners complaining about facilities will always be ironic to me since they chose prison over productive lives.
Wow! That BOP Director is a politician! She has no ability to answer questions directly, rather than to deflect and dance around them.
That's her job, bro. Nobody's trying to spend a few more billion a year for staffing.
Augmentation happens when training is going on at the prisons or allotment of so many a year. Gotta pay us more to retain and get people to want to join the BOP. Giving new hires a sign on bonus but can’t give staff who stay an incentive? The way in house jobs are going to people on the street so anyone in custody won’t be able to get them because they don’t want to lose anymore people in custody. How’s that fair to the person wanting to make more money for there family? Taking money away from them is how I see it. I work for the BOP and I like my job. Fixing an institution starts from the top and comes down and morale is a big thing. Some prisons in the BOP do have trouble staffing an institution when the location they put them and type of facility it is. Also if a Convict/ Inmate wants to change for the better they will, but some don’t. You can try helping with programs or trade job type of program. The thing is some rather be locked up then free because that’s all they know. The state I live in the C/O will make 92,000 a year based on salary with NO Overtime. Lots of people are going to the state then the feds. You top out quicker as an officer for the state than the feds. I hope to be out of custody one day cause that’s my goal.
Louder for those in the back.
Good for you. Custody ain’t no joke. Get out asap.
I spent 6 months in this prison camp. It was awful when i was there a tornado hit the prison. And the women going to school for ged at the camp had being waiting to take test for years before i got there
I was there too, but behind the fence. That time was awful! I remember it like yesterday.
Me too. Think about it on every groundhog day and Thank God we made it without anyone getting hurt. How they treated the ladies that was in the prison was awful.
My dad was the Warden at Texarkana FCI in the early seventies. My family followed him from Terre Haute to Leavenworth to The DC Bureau to Morgantown Youth Center to Texarkana… we grew up around federal felons.
Did you hear about Tommy Silverstein in Leavenworth? The most isolated inmate
Wow..im a current CO..I heard alot about terre haute
My sister did 6 yrs in Alicevile she's from New York City her man is doing 15 yrs in Lewisburg. She's a Nurse now
That’s good she became a nurse after doing jail time. Very motivating for people that believe they are never able to be successful in life with a felony.
Disappointing that 60 Minutes didn't grill the Director harder, nor comment on the barbaric 'For Profit' prison industry which exists in the US.
The “for profit” are private, contract facilities primarily.
Changing the subject, are you? The story was about FEDERAL PRISONS, misconduct and incompetence of FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. Without private contract facilities, the prison systems in the US would be worse. Most of the inmates held are convicted in state court.
Barbaric for profit system? The non-profit system maintains a guard shortage of 8,000, while attempting to cover up with a bobblehead of doublespeak.
The director is giving Figueroa from OITNB
The Prison System Inc. is becoming the new Healthcare System LLC.
“The director of the federal Bureau of Prisons was scolded Wednesday by members of the Senate Judiciary Committee who say her lack of transparency is hampering their ability to help fix the agency, which has long been plagued by staffing shortages, chronic violence and other problems.” The Registar- Guard
The director is absolutely a politician..
She's putting her best 10 dollar word's
Yes you I can do anything 😂
this woman is a politician. i worked in a michigan prison. lots of female guards were having relationships with the male prisoners.
Wow, I wonder what happens when the guards get pregnant??
@@ilovemytribeThey just lie and tell their husbands they're the father 😂. Have to make sure to cheat with the proper color for skin matching, though.
Ive drove by this prison many times going to the war museum and coke factory museum. Interesting to see a up close look at it for the first time.
They need to fire her!
I worked adult corrections for 6 months, I just was not "wound tight enough" to deal with the job. Went to juvenile corrections and worked 5 years, there was a sense of hope in that environment that you could not feel in the adult system.
I wonder how many of these augmented civilian staff that are playing corrections officers have been named in the Dublin lawsuits.
Over 60 staff so far.
Thank God for unions and 60 minutes including them in this piece.
If they cannot staff the Federal prisons with an $8 billion dollar budget... maybe they need to trim the fat.
Good interview.
Prisons all over the United States should be reformed. Most prisoners are not treated like they are human beings. They are not given medical treatment like they should. The people who are there to protect them are not. Every prison in the United States should be investigated by the FBI.
No chance. The FBI works for Bidumb and soon, Harris.
1:38 who’s this girl with no glasses & hands on her book ? Can anyone tell me 🔥 🙏🏽
If I were a guard, she'd definitely get some extra attention 😂