Jailhouse Snitches; Questionable Informants; Cook County Jail | 60 Minutes Full Episodes
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- From 2017, Sharyn Alfonsi reports on the use of jailhouse informants in Orange County, California. From 2015, Lesley Stahl investigates the controversial use of young confidential informants by law enforcement in dangerous and sometimes deadly drug cases. And also from 2017, Stahl goes inside one of the largest jails in the country to examine Sheriff Tom Dart's unconventional management.
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0:00 Introduction
0:11 Snitches
14:16 Confidential Informants (Part 1)
28:05 Confidential Informants (Part 2)
41:04 Cook County Jail
For the DA to say if the informant is talking he's lying but then use that info in court is outrageous. The justice system is so broken. It's no longer about justice but greed and power trips.
I thought the exact thing. He's always lying except when he's testifying.
All about their win/loss ratio to get closer to a judgeship.
I didn't even read the comments until after I wrote mine glad I'm not the only one who caught the other side of that statement
You can tell immediately that he is corrupt and deceptive. Ironically, the “criminal” (gentlemen with the black ponytail at the beginning) comes across as very honest and straightforward compared to an elected member of the justice system - a literal district attorney.
The legal/"justice" system is working as intended. Perhaps it's the common understanding of it that is broken.
The use of young people as confidential informants is disgusting. Lives are worth more than $80.
The law enforcement wouldn't have done this to their own children.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
Typical system doing it's usual dirty on the public. Nothing changes if nothing changes
Exactly the threat of years in jail over a plant. Unreal it needs changed on a federal level so these states stop abusing their power. Mr Biden didn't push those same laws on his child that he pushed on thousands of other unlucky individuals. Hypocrisy at its best all of them
COPS could care less about you .
This story touches me personally. I was pulled over by Nebraska State Patrol for running a stop sign and they "conveniently" found a piece of trash on the back floorboard of my car that they say tested positive for meth. The wrote me up on one Felony charge of possession and released me. Then the next day I was pulled over again by an unmarked vehicle from the State Patrol and taken to the station where a narcotics officer from the WING Task Force basically threatened me with 20 years in prison and a healthy fine for the original charge. He told me "help yourself out" and wanted me to go make buys from some of their targets. Thankfully I talked at length with my parents and a lawyer and was able to have the charge dismissed entirely. It was the most frightening experience I've ever had holding a felony summons in my hand and then talking with the narcotics officer. I had a hypothetical gun to my head and for a while felt suicidal. It's predatory how they go after people and create criminals. I could understand flipping a high level dealer or distributor, but for personal use marijuana is absurd. That's why I DO NOT back the blue. They are the enemy!
You are wrong to believe all or most police are the enemy. It is true that there are many bad cops, and some who are ignorant or are themselves convinced (wrongly) by a superior or peer to do those wrongs, yet most police officers desire to protect and defend society from crime.
@@StuartKlimek there is no way that can be considered convincing on any level. I am my own first responder and every interaction I've had with police has been negative. They think the badge and the gun gives them power, but it's only an illusion that is quite quickly stripped away.
Is Marijuana illegal in that state?Did you have prior crimes?,just asking why would they target you?
@@tishreni5183 yes and yes, but the way Cheyenne County Nebraska works is a snitch city and they were mad that I didn't want to play the game.
@@StuartKlimekthey actively choose to remain part of a system they know is corrupt and do nothing about it. They don't arrest politicians when they know there is reasonable suspicion, they don't hold each other accountable and enforce bogus money based laws. None of them are good and they all want power. If you think otherwise than you're just a sheltered fool.
I’d believe a jailhouse snitch over a politician. The snitch has more integrity 😂
One becomes the other
Nice, made me smile
This video needs to be seen by every student in America. Send it to everyone you know.
It's not the schools job to teach kids these things. It's a parents DUTY. My kids are preteen age still and have been taught ROUTINELY they NEVER speak to anyone. You call a LAWYER. LET THE LAWYER CALL ME. hopefully theyll never have to implement that advice... But IF EVER THEY HAD TO I WANT THEM TO KNOW. CALL A LAWYER. THEYLL CALL ME. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT YOURE GONNA BE IN JAIL OVERNIGHT, AT LEAST, ANYWAY SO SAY NOTHING. DEMAND A LAWYER. PERIOD.
Right, so they can know they have at least one option other than prison.
@@dazzlingextremes389yeah cause we can trust parents lol
And I won't help .
I'm from America are you also from America????
If the last people a cop wants you to talk to is your own parents... then they do NOT have your best interest in mind.
*The most telling thing is how the DA is saying "I don't remember much, really" while everyone else remembers most things very well.*
It's JUST LIKE all the guilty people in jail claiming "I don't remember what happened that night that I killed my wife".
He needs to absolutely be recalled or overthrown in the next election.
*Most importantly somebody needs to go over all those cases with a fine-tooth comb. It's far better that 100 guilty people go free than it is for 1 innocent person to be imprisoned.*
That DA is an obvious criminal. In a state where they claim "elect this party and we'll protect you from corruption" it's extremely sad that all those people voted for that party and GOT NOTHING in return.
They didn't even get the basic constitutional and legal protections that are guaranteed to every American.
@@jonslg240 It's disgusting (and creepy) to see an attorney look you in the eye and lie with a straight face. So many attorneys are professional liars.
@@jonslg240that seems to be how it's kept going. Complain about the corruption in the other party, promise better & rely on your supporters to turn a blind eye when you do the same thing 😒
If your older than 18 you are an adult and do not need to talk to your parents. If you can't make decisions on your own your parents have failed you.
You gotta think how many cases a DA goes through in his career. You think he remembers every single person he talks to? Unless they do something crazy that you would for sure remember them for.
Wow! Great work yet again 60 minutes. This is a huge problem that needs addressing immediately!
Finally! People are starting to be the change. Cops have tooo much power and are not vetted or trained anywhere close to enough. DA’s are prison administrators are started to help these people instead of ruin their lives. This is a great episode!
That's disgusting that they would do that to a college kid for just selling marijuana
These law enforcements wouldn't have done this to their own children.
The double standards of law enforcement is disgusting.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
@@redneckshaman3099I've never seen those words written before and I've been using RUclips since 2005. 9/10 for creativity.
Their kids don't go to college, so it doesn't affect them...
*The most telling thing is how the DA is saying "I don't remember much, really" while everyone else remembers most things very well.*
It's JUST LIKE all the guilty people in jail claiming "I don't remember what happened that night that I killed my wife".
He needs to absolutely be recalled or overthrown in the next election.
*Most importantly somebody needs to go over all those cases with a fine-tooth comb. It's far better that 100 guilty people go free than it is for 1 innocent person to be imprisoned.*
That DA is an obvious criminal. In a state where they claim "elect this party and we'll protect you from corruption" it's extremely sad that all those people voted for that party and GOT NOTHING in return.
They didn't even get the basic constitutional and legal protections that are guaranteed to every American.
Never discuss your case when incarcerated and never talk to the police unless you called them.
Those 2 things wouldn’t be the easiest way to prevent this from happening
You can never not talk bout why u there in prison ..prison and county 2 complete different things
@@maxgarner3263saying what your charges are and full-on discussing your illegal deeds are two different things
@@maxgarner3263 Yep!!
Whenever hoping not to get convicted is in the rearview mirror and you’re already serving your sentence inmates will believe you must be in for something that involves children or something b/c nobody cares about the normal stuff folks are there for..
OP was correct about not discussing it while in jail (pre conviction) tho
never talk to the police ever
Students across the country need to be repeatedly informed what is going on. And that they need to ask for an attorney right away. Even if they are threatened, they should become aware that an attorney is most likely their best alternative.
Absolutely
This is in no way a new practice. It has been happening to kids in the good, since the 1980s, probably longer. Of course nobody cares until it happens to other kids.
"He keeps a low profile these days for fear of retribution of fellow inmates" *Does an interview on one of the major news networks and basically admits he lies.
Not even a blurred face or voice changer 😂
"A drug dealer is a drug dealer" is the most braindead thing ive ever heard. Selling weed to your friends / people at your college is miles apart from trafficking felony amounts of drugs to random people.
nah fr
The law enforcement wouldn't have done this to their own children.
The double standards of law enforcement.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
No,drugs are drugs. Even the college buddy.. drugs. Period.
You probably buy and inject the marijuanas too!!
that is the laziest police tactic... what a bunch of donut eaters. using kids like that .
Instead of putting financial resources into actual police work, they would rather buy another armored car
Your are right back in the 80s I was a teenager and I would move bundles of drugs for certain people in our neighborhood the cops never knew because I was never was on the police radar.i made good cash doing that but I stopped when I got involved with an older man .he found out and was passed. The cops were looking for gang affiliated people not me.
Man this is an excellent piece. Also shout out to Thomas Dart. First honest Sheriff Iv ever seen
I appreciate that sheriff trying to help everyone understand that, just because they end up in here, doesn’t mean they are all the same. 👏🏾👏🏾
Just imagine all of the innocent people who were prosecuted, sentenced and are still in prison now and some have probably died there. The blame is on the prosecutor, the courts, and the police. They only give a s*** about their resume, that's it.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
The law enforcement wouldn't have done this to their own children. It's disgusting.
The double standards of law enforcement.
facts
It's messed up. I got a OVI and refusal of a chemical test in Cincinnati Ohio. I had no keys in the car, it was parked in a parking spot, no drugs no alcohol, nothing like that. Nothing illegal. I had license insurance and all that, that's the only reason I got the OVI. Had I not had a license I wouldn't have got one, It wasn't even my car, and no keys in it. Crazy. I had hypertension level 4 of the heart and was severely dehydrated,
I woke up 14 hours later , in the hospital with a OVI. Having no idea what happened .
It's crazy that was in 2019. I fought it for 18 months, spent at least $9,000 in lawyer fees alone. I still got convicted even with my medical papers, the body cam footage, proved the cop never spoke to me and he forged my signature. Also, I had a witness. The 911 call , everything. Still got convicted. The judge wouldnt even look at the TV when my lawyer put on the copa body came footage. She asked to put it on, ans he said "if you must" ... I was also denied a jury trial, I was on the docket for it like 5 times, and the judge would keep holding me until last, even tho I had a paid lawyer and it's supposed to go in alphabetical order, like the judge would hold me until the jury was sent home, everytime, at least 5 times and then would say, you can have a bench trial... So the 6th or 7th time I just agreed to it, I was tired of paying my lawyer $475 every day she sat there with me, and I was missing work, plus it was a pain to get to court anyway because I had a suspended license. Judge wouldn't grant me a driving privileges or anything, not even to come to court. Lol like wtf. Wouldn't even give me a plea deal .. it was so messed up and crooked its crazy. Sentence to 180 days and a year license suspension and a year probation..
And mind you, this was my first conviction EVER, I loved in this city for 33 years!!!!. I know people with more than one OVi and never spent more than 2 nights in jail...
I couldn't believe it. I moved to a different state. Lol, right across the river, my warrants don't show up here, but I still can't drive. It sucks!!! IL never be able to get a license unless I go back to Ohio and do 6months in jail. Noooo wayy!!! They'll have me in there with predators and bullies and make me a victim again, I think about how much that judge changed my life everyday. I try not to. It's just so crazy !!!!
Where in hell will these People staywhythecops don't dothe job omg take my kid and class a felony for eighty dollars ????????
Something needs to change. My brother-in-law has been in Cook County for over 12 years waiting and his case still hasn't gone to trial. They keep claiming they're still in discovery. Unconstitutional.
Did he waive his right to a speedy trial? It's usually one of the first things your attorney asks you to do in the first month after being arrested. They recommend it because there are advantages to delaying, like the temperament cooling down or the public defenders ability to work in a small amount of time .
It seems odd that he has been locked up for over a decade. But remember courts have to grant him for time served
@@nikolailang4157You’re assuming IF and when this person goes to trial they’ll be found guilty.
*”…..his case still hasn’t gone to trial.* How does this person get 12 yrs. of their life back?! Why would you even assume this person is guilty? The assumption is “…presumed innocent until proved *beyond a reasonable doubt* they are guilty.”*
“He’s an informant. If he’s talking he’s probably lying”……but we take their word for it and he’s NOT lying when in court for us 😬 😳 🤬 😂
Omg this is so sad. My heart ♥ is with the parent's of the young lady who was murdered and also for the young man found in the river❤ Also all others who have lost their loved ones in this way.
Haha
It’s Blackmail , threatening a terrified college kid , no formal charges , no lawyer ,, disgusting
Sounds like the student loan process 😂
Fact's, that is exactly what it is
Thank you for bringing this out . Its unbelievable and needs stopped
The law enforcement wouldn't have done this to their own children. It's disgusting.
The double standards of law enforcement.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
I'm addicted to the pigger nussy 😻
Absolutely sickening!! Corruption is real. It is in every city. Educate your children/ grandchildren. Don't send them out into this big scary world without knowledge of the bad stuff too. It is not something we want our kids to ever get involved in, but don't think it can't happen. We don't know what or who they can come in contact with.
It's a miracle I'm alive, at age 58 I had a stroke and live in a veteran's residence in the Bronx, N.Y.C. my memory is gradually improving.
Cap
I love how the cops admit that their job is so easy, that basically any teenager can do it, even without any training whatsoever 😂😂😂
🎯
The job is not easy unless you are listening to village cops
love it the da said "your talking to an informant he's lying" but then use an informant's testimony in court 😂
Yeah well a vast majority of his office including himself got fired. I lived in seal beach during the salon shooting and that was the tipping point that got the public defender wise to what was happening and blew the lid off the whole thing.
I like that about Cleveland he is not a snitch he is just extremely good at providing information
I am glad that they have at least some kind of programs
People do need to be more educated on how to deal with an encounter with the police just so people don't give up their rights... That should actually be a class in high school.
Correct. We will need real schooling though. Not propaganda & dumbing down like we've thus far been exposed to
Best bet is to not talk to police at all without your lawyer present. Police know all the little tricks to get people to talk. Be careful what you say, even in a simple traffic stop.
exactly. some month ago I was in police station and they(inspector) laugh at me when I asked for lawyer. Only after third time I asked, police brought state lawyer. When lawyer came she said ... ugh, It is long time since the last time she has been in that station. I presume people rarely use they rights.
Law enforcement wouldn't do this to their own children. It's disgusting.
The double standards of law enforcement.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
They need to learn to ask for a lawyer. I know it's scary, and the cops like to lay it on thick, but these days, innocent or guilty, everyone needs to speak to a lawyer.
Especially when a person is innocent!
I would think that before you sit in that little room in that little chair in front of that little man that you should say "lawyer".
never talk to the cops. innocent or guilty
So very true. It isn’t that you have anything to hide, but we all have things we want to protect. Don’t let anyone use or exploit you in furtherance of their own goals. Just say no.
I beg to differ. Personal experience tells me that no arrest record, no charges filed is a very valuable thing (especially to somebody with absolutely no criminal history).
60 Minutes is the absolute best. 👍👍
That lady at the end trying to get people out for sitting on dead time is a 🐐. I sat for 100+ days before being charged then was released shortly after for time served which was longer than my actual charge
The sad thing which causes them to accept the deal out of fear in the first place is that they're threatened with really long prison sentences (40 years for selling weed, are you kidding me?).
The law enforcement wouldn't have done this to their own children. It's disgusting.
The double standards of law enforcement.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
Yeah and the truth is that a simple weed charge will most likely be dropped anyway or downgraded to something even lower and no jail time. They are just praying off those weak college students fear because the police know they are uneducated in the street life.
Extortion really...
If I called my parents and told them this my dad would say, "you made your bed, you lay in it,". He was a police chief.
This happened to me but I did not snitch when I was caught with an illegal substance. Come to find out it was an illegal bust so they could not charge me. I've straightened out a year ago after years of rehabs, jails, and overdoses. I have a year clean now
50:14 Dude on the floor is just sleeping?
I have a couple questions for sure 😂 The hayo
Never told anyone, never called a lawyer. Thats JUST unbelievable. 😢 😮
Scandalous yes!
I understand the kids. I was busted for curfew and loitering when I was a teenager. I begged the cops not to tell my dad because he would beat me. I was right.
Yeeah, never seen the comment section on every crime channel on youtube??
I can’t believe that the DA was actually trying to cover this up so hard 😂. Folks there’s jailhouse rats in every jail and pen in the us. And the DA always uses em.
"Keeps a low profile now because he fears..."
Goes on national television...
Snitching on inmates is dangerous but Snitching on officials is fatal
Jail house snitches have been an issue for years. In cases that rely solely on “testimony”, I’m surprised so many jurors take it a face value.
Jurors are just random people, most of whom are chosen because they are very conservative.
Both sides pick a choose members of the jury. So it favorable to both parties
@@VoltairesRevengefalse. Almost all guilty cases in violence are majority democratic juries. Weird thing to lie about lol
The DA said these guys are liars, but defends using them to provide information.
@@JewBoy-co7yw Ham sandwich
Absolutely sickening. Giving up young ppls lives for a conviction.
Inmate F " his snitching paid off ".....13:54 😂😂
You can tell that Orange county DA Tony, if he was answering those questions under oath he'd have been jailed for lying under oath, at least. He's extremely corrupt and must face accountability.
It's scary how easily they lie and these are the same people who charge people for crimes. He lie like this at trial too and the jury believes everything that he says. Most people don't even know what that system is all about. Those people are a bunch of crooks and liars and should be in prison themselves.
It's miraculous, his office is being investigated by state and Federal agencies - yet he admitted to literally NOTHING wrong. He might be a little more convincing if he accepted something. No wonder So. Cal. has such a huge inmate population
@@monto39❤❤❤
Snake eyes. He runs the gangs in the police.
plausible deniability. As long as he's not directly involved, you must be the one to first prove the existence of the network and tie him to it. He knows this, hence why he gets away with it. You need evidence. But agree that would be another charge on him when he actually is caught. But the mere existence of such a network is enough to get the man the death sentence which is why he's so vietmately denying.
Using Kids, College students at that is one of the most cowardly things that law enforcement can do. The more you learn about these cops, the worse it really is.
As a supporter of law enforcement
These agents supporting this are absolutely disgusting .
I get busted for $ 20.00 of only marijuana.
And now to get out of a long term inhumane jail sentence.
I have to now sell hard drugs I'm not familiar with.
In large quantities to far more dangerous people.
These are pure disgusting, cowardlly officers using & exploiting young people that could lead to their death
@@davec2107😂😂They are drug dealers end of story.
@@Hellokittytheonetheylovetohatelol and so? just because you’re ah college student selling 2 people some bud small amounts of weed don’t make you ah drug dealer.
@@Hellokittytheonetheylovetohate
So you're saying if he sells his friend $10.00 worth of marijuana
He should get the same jail time as someone caught selling 100 kilos of heroine?
I'll wait!
They should be behind bars far more than any student buying a little baggie of weed
"Mark Cleveland"
YOU JUST PUT THE LAST NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN LMFAO.😂😂😂😂
SNITCHES GET DEALT WITH.
13:53 "then he will be released as a reward for all his snitching" LOL is it just me or was that just hilarious?
I am beyond angry about this. I had no idea. This is so wrong and needs to be taken to the supreme court and federally banded.
banned
That first guy, Cleveland, is probably dead and I blame 60 minutes for not blotting out his face.
Look at white boy Rick SMH
There are a thousand societal issues in the US of A that are in dire need of change, sadly its wishful thinking to hope that any of them will change in the next 50 years😅
You should have known.
a great investigative journalistic work of social interest. Well done
10yrs too late..
Extraordinarily rare for an elected DA to help defendant's get out of jail. Very inspirational to say the least!!!
When asked about marijuana informants the cop said it is “my duty to enforce criminal law.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was born in 1972. The TV shows I grew up with, whether they were news programs or fictionalized shows all referred to _"snitches"_ as people involved in criminal activity who used inside information to cut deals for leniency. Usually, the so-called snitch was either involved in the same crimes as the person(s) they informed on or something slightly less than that.
*Today the act of "snitching" has been manipulated by street gangs to keep innocent people, potential witnesses, in check! If you see and/or hear a crime in progress or find out something about a crime after the fact, contacting the police about it is called snitching when it has nothing to do with that!*
One of the reasons I don’t support the death penalty, anymore.
This is exactly what I've come to expect from government officials in the US.
"I think you should assume your talking to an informant and as an informant he's lying" says that man who used this INFORMANT to prosecute others lol
If you stay quiet and ask for a lawyer right away, it’s out of the polices hands. They have to give YOUR counsel all of the reason behind your arrest. And more often then not, your case is dropped. So, never talk to police they are NOT lawyers. Never talk to them. Always ask for a lawyer because it takes your case out of the hands of the police.
I'm not even sure that with the small amount, these kids COULD be charged with a felony. It sounds like a misdemeanor charge. I'm unsure, but wonder, if a defendant is entitled to a court appointed lawyer for a misdemeanor? It may vary state to state? Idk.
@@jeffwylie5899that’s the problem they do what they’re told as they don’t know the law, this guy didn’t even get a lawyer he had no idea, that’s the first thing he should have done
I think the issue is that they technically were not under arrest or even detained. They were just using their fear against them. Could they ask for a lawyer even if they were not under arrest? Cuz technically at that point they didn't need one. Like chill ur not under arrest, we're just talking smh
"That is simply un-not true." Sounds like a confession to me.
“As a reward, for all his snitching” is crazy😂😂😂😂
Great content 🎉
Laws making weed illegal seems prehistoric. Laws making a small amount of weed a felony allows law enforcement to prey upon kids to engage in the dangerous act of becoming an informant. When I lived in Arizona if I recall correctly, any amount of weed was a felony, even just a seed. It was nice to see Arizona wake up and legalize it. Hopefully all states wake up and follow suit.
Just make all drugs illegal without proper medical reasons to obtain it. Recreational use should be banned outright.
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ The family structure has to be the societal ideal. Everything else are treatments for symptoms.
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_cannabis cures multiple types of cancer. Anyone consuming cannabis safely and with proper education is doing something healthy/using it midicinally in my mind. Why do you think "recreational" use should be banned? I am a medical cannabis patient and I happen to enjoy cannabis as well. There is literally zero risk of overdose, so what's the issue?
Scary how anti freedom most of the country is.
@@111HONESTYCures cancer? Yeah ok
If the sheriff has been in his position for 17 years (since 2006) i promise you he is not the solution. Chicago has went down hill year after year for decades, just like all big cities have. It's time to start having the tough conversations people have been avoiding for decades.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
They wouldn't have done this to their own children. It's disgusting.
The double standards of law enforcement.
What tough conversation would that be?
@@JordanSmith507that money spent on policing would be better served by giving that money to the community 🤔
Back in 1999 in Florida i was setup. I gave the person 3 joints. They gave me 3 to 5 years. Now it is legal there. WTF i did over 3 year's!!! I was only 18 and was going to study to be a veterinarian. The weed charge put a stop to that , being you can't be a vet with drug charges. That stupid law ruined my life
Ridiculous. 40 years for a small amount ? Ridiculous
THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, Y IN THE WORLD IS THIS GUY SHOWING HIS FACE ON CAMERA, WOW, NO WORDS FOR THIS!!!!
The police who are to make the bust will inform the dealer of the rats for a payback. Law enforcement is dangerous.
The law enforcement wouldn't have done this to their own children.
@@dianahill5116Crime paids is what the police knows. If there is no crime the police would have no jobs. So the police want crime?, to fish the criminals like fish out of water like a fisherman, who never reduce the population of crime. It's a sick world, not picking sides here.
@@SteveXNYC
Decriminalizing cannabis, would lessen the amount of revenue for the law enforcement.
@@SteveXNYC
I would question, if you had a high school education.
@@SteveXNYC
The double standards within the law enforcement.
This originally aired on television. It should be closed captioned. NOT auto-generated!
i love how 60 mins is actually 54 mins
I had a sibling who was hooked on addictive drugs by his "friends," and those same "friends," once my sibling was addicted, used him to deal drugs to support his habit. He was busted dealing drugs, because he wasnt a professional criminal, and was forced to snitch on his dealers to avoid maximum criminal penalties. It is nothing short of a miracle that he wasn't shot or killed so that the DA could look good with drug busts. Our system is set up to profit the criminal justice system at the expense of victims.
I'm sorry to hear this!
I hope justice prevails against all with a hand in forcing his decision to act!
The definition of a miracle: Something that brings a smile.
The law enforcement wouldn't have done this to their own children.
The double standards of law enforcement.
Remove law enforcement qualified immunity.
Im sorry you guy's experienced that.
That Keith Davis character is a real piece of work!!!!!!!! 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡
Great episode
Problem is some informants are legit being told things and others just trying to help themselves.
When is someone going to look into the bad officers who move agencies? That is a story someone needs and should take on?
How's it working out in Cook County these days??? Ridiculous
Another fantastic show by 60 Minutes. Thank you for all the great content and reporting over the years.
This is why marijuana needs to be legalized FEDERALLY.... legal in one state vs. 20 yr felony next door? This is so awful. Please get this done.
I have absolute RESPECT for the staff reforming the prison/legal system. Every thinking person knew this would happen with the closing of mental health institutions/programs I guess the simplistic 'lock 'em up and throw away the key' philosophy hasnt worked too well either. Its time to listen to the smart people.
Even as a child playing in the streets and alleys of my town everyone knew "Snitches get stitches". The absolute truth of all boy truths is you don't rat out your friends. That and you didn't date your buddies sisters.
This is correct
If only everybody had the balls to keep to that. But too many ppl are weak, scared and pathetic...
Do the crime, do the time.
Great reporting on the corruption by our public servants!! Every parent needs to talk to their children to always trust to talk about ANYTHING!!
Never talk to police, they only have one thing on their mind!!
I'm really torn in many ways when it comes to the topic in this video. When it comes to informants who are actually facing a long sentence, getting out of jail early can be extremely important. Something that the family needs to consider, when they talk about how wrong it was for their loved ones becoming informants, the time their son or daughter is spending in jail can be vital to the kind of person that is released from jail. Many inmates while doing time, learn more about committing bigger and more serious crimes than they did before they went in. And when they are released, the job market can be very limited, and so the pull to return to committing crimes is very high. You are also segregated while in jail and many will essentially become racists, because you're forced to. So becoming an informant, while extremely dangerous, has many positives also. Now that being said, the incredibly irresponsible practices by some of these law enforcement agencies, putting these young kids in scenarios that they absolutely have no business being in, is appalling. Putting that girl, who had done nothing more than sell a little pot to friends, into a situation where she was purchasing a large amount of weight and unfamiliar product, by herself, with totally inadequate police protection. Which resulted in her being killed, disgusted me to no end. And the response by the police, stating that these kids are already in this dangerous and deadly drug world, all because they deal a little pot, is so utterly ridiculous, it baffles the mind.
I understand the necessity of informants. The law is fighting a serious uphill battle in battling crime. And they need every advantage that they can get. But they have to be reasonable.
The War on (some) Drugs is unconstitutional and causes more problems than it solves. The cure is worse than the disease.
You seem confused. The prison snitches aren't little Billy and Sally doing time for selling a dime bag. They are actually bad people, criminals, gang members on their own accord, rightfully where they belong. There is a reason prosecutors don't want to put them on the witness stand. No one ever said prison was a productive place where people actually get rehabilitated. That being said, if said people can serve a greater good to society by ratting out a peer, so be it. Just give Billy and Sally a slap on the wrist with a diversion program and leave them out of this convoluted game completely.
@@bobbyboucher1096 It doesn't appear that I'm the one confused. Because I never said anything about prison snitches. I was talking about informants. And if you watched the video, it is precisely the small time dime bag dealing, "Billy and Sally" that I'm talking about. It's possible you may be confused because I mention prison and the cost of doing long stints there. But I'm referring to those CI's who are trying to keep out of prison, by becoming informants. I wasn't talking about the ones already there.
However, I will have to say that your notion that all those in prison, are nothing but hardest of the hard and lowest of the low. Nothing but serious drug dealing, gang banging killers who deserve to be there. Because that is asinine. Of course that's not all that is there in prison. There are those people who simply made a bad choice and were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Small time dealers who sold dope to friends and acquaintances only. Not to kids and strangers on the street. They got caught and busted with a little weight, and drug penalties can be really stiff. These aren't bad people. Just unlucky. And prison is full of those types of people. And they can snitch as much as the next guy.
Explain definition of keeping low profile please 😂
Both of these guys are marked for death. Snitching on anyone is playing with death. Snitching on the people the did is a guarantee they’ll always be in grave danger. Guys been a dope fiend essentially his entire life. He better hope he has beaten his demons because if he gets locked up again, it won’t matter where it’s at.
The sheriff in Chicago gets it. This man way of thought is valuable in all communities and if everyone thought like this it would change the world.
Fact's, what a great man / gift to have working for we the people
True, I’ve never heard of him yet I wish he was over my city (Memphis).
It’s his way of thinking that will definitely make a change for the better wherever he ends up.
What the world needs is LOVE and he’s giving it.
I love how they put May 2017 like we had this quality video back then
keep up the good work sheriff Tom dart
This topic needs to be updated .The IL legislature has made it illegal for currently imprisoned people to serve as witnesses.
We had a friend disappear for years on spring break. 4 years later we ran into him and he'd been in Cook County jail for selling ecstasy as a white boy from Kentucky. I'll spare you the details of the hell he went through. The day after we saw him he kidnapped a girl. As police surrounded him he killed himself. Crazy what that jail did to him.
Yea he was selling excatcy a crime..it wasn't weed..u think black n brown only deserve jail if caught selling ex..shame
@@nelsonperez5883 what? Where in the hell you get that from. I said we were Kentucky White boys and he ended up in an overwhelmingly black jail, totally out of his Element. I said nothing close to what you're saying.
@@nelsonperez5883it’s legal in Amsterdam
true you didnt.@@26michaeluk
@@nelsonperez5883Your comment makes no sense. What are you trying to say?
40 years in prison 😂😂😂
Well said Harse 👏
This is absolutely happening. It’s happening all around the country and it’s absolutely dirty as hell.
Seen this happy too many times. This story 100% accurate. Happening every day in every city in your neighborhood.
Just to let you know, I think your phone changed a word while you typed it. Happy , I think you meant happen
Wow..this guy is a professional snitch😂, he’s literal career is snitching.😮 but yeah I remember that story where Andrew was busted LITTLE for weed and they forced him to be a CI doing controlled buys from dangerous people. Well the dealers found him out and unalived him. Sad, sad, sad story.
How did they find out?
@@Long_live_Da_Bully Probably a snitch in the police ranks.
@@gaoxiaen1 either that or something made them suspicious
These lawyer and judges say we shouldn’t trust what snitches say….but we should believe them if it benefits the prosecution. That’s funny
Sheriff goofy's out of the box ideas are on the right track..I respect him
A snitch changed my adult life. He snitched on me to my employer…..- I always unintentionally clogged the work restroom toilets bc I only dump 1x/week. He saw me exit the stall and he snitched. Life changes forever.
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22:51 23:56 he’s so full of S!!
They’re not putting themselves in the same degree of risk when purchasing as non-informants because they don’t show up wearing A WIRE or with cops following their every move.
Very dishonest man.
As a former Correctional Officer for the state of Vermont, I can say with confidence that listening to jailhouse snitches is an interesting way to pass time on your boring shift that is usually only interrupted by breaking up the occasional fight. Real information is obtained by eavesdropping when you are 100% sure they don't know you're listening.
This is far from anything new. I had a friend in college in 1985 who went to Penn State where he got caught with weed. The deal they offered him was turn in four friends or serve nine months. My buddy did the nine months instead of ratting out his friends. Massive respect.
Solid wood right there
That’s solid but it’s different when looking at 9 years or more, that’s when you really see who folds. If you sign up for something than take responsibility no matter what it is, that’s how I live but most folks don’t even know themselves until in that situation. I’ve did three sentences not snitching. Seen some homies fold and tell before the cuffs were on. “Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time” you are who you hang with is what will remain true to the system.
I knew someone who kept snitching his way out of prison just to start selling drugs again and again. He ended up getting shot in the face. He survived but next time he got arrested he took the jail time.
@@Dirty2Clean1980that's true, that's why I wouldn't want to live that life. It always seems to end up in prison or disaster. They say as well when it comes to big time gangsters or whatever, the people you can least trust are the people around you. I'd rather just stay out of that life and be as far away from the things that go on in it. The saying crime doesn't pay is very true as well
34:52 Cop says, “These 18 19 year olds are adults…they’re creating felonies and hurting our communities.”. Hmmm, interesting, so at 18/19 the law says they are “adults” who are old enough to be held accountable and imprisoned in adult jail because they know better. BUT, when it comes to having a beer or buying a pack of cigarettes, they can’t do that until they’re 21 because they’re too immature and don’t know better. 🤯 Funny how government sees them as mature and immature whenever it’s convenient.
I would like to see an updated report to see what is working or not working in Cook County. Also, what has been done to advise low level attenders of their risks and rights. It’s disgusting how the legal machine can make criminals out of desperation of some and misjudgment of youthful decisions.
The government built the system to do exactly what it is doing. Overstep the Constitution and make our right illegal. They done a great job at making us modern day slave's/ cash cow's.
They admit snitches are liars and still use their testimony to convict others.
Corruption
Who cares….they are all criminals anyway
I'm in Cleveland OH and its totally out of control.
Lmao the district attorney 😅is fakkkked!!
I, 100% believe that police are capable of doing this, especially if they are promoted based on the number of cases charged and convicted, operating by the very destructive maxim , "the end justifies the mean".