@@akufromthefuturejmm6237 he was extremely ill due to addiction to some drugs he was prescribed while his wife was battling cancer and while in recovery he got corona too (Info from his daughter’s podcast).
Same. At the same time, I wouldn't speak a lot for multiple reasons: I'd be completely enamored I'd be incredibly anxious and excited And..I'd be afraid that in my nervousness, I'd say something really dumb, or really weird. Lol. Keep in mind, if the same situation happened with literally any movie star, I'd just be like, "oh, hey, (insert actors name)" 😆
You can only see that brokenness in his voice and almost tears going down while JBP comes to his mind his own experiences and thats why is so real original in his expression and try ro do whatever he can to help people. Thanks Mr Jordan Peterson for your true organically human and ethical as a Professional with such a big goo heart. God bless America with you and BS, i enjoy see you both talking about this very important issue. 👌👍👏🤗❤💔❤🤗
That's what's funny. These guys are really trying to make the world a better place, and the mainstream leftist media makes them out to be monsters... And yet I notice it's those same leftists who are always so angry, accusitory, calling others names like 'Racist', or 'bigot' etc. Inciting race riots, and pushing intolerance with their cancel culture.
"I expect to pass through this world but once, therefore any good that I can do or any kindness I can bestow on my fellow creature let me not neglect nor delay it. For I shall not pass this way again."
When a highly intellectual person is brought to tears by the reality of reconciliation that he helped facilitate between father & sons… that’s a genuinely good hearted person.
If Jordan Peterson reached notoriety two decades ago and had since deceased, we'd constantly be saying "I wish Jordan were here to give us his take on the current state of society." Be grateful he's with us for now.
Because he knows what true love means. He knows love means having the grace to see your selfishness and being willing to admit it and change. True love is never "me me me! All for me!".
@@sketchartist1964 Probably also because he has first hand experience with depression and also through his job as a shrink, so he knows exactly how bad those people's situations were before they turned things around. It would be enough to make anyone tear up.
In a world where everyone was told "you can be whatever you want" nobody told them that the limits are in reality. Jordan peterson is a good man in a crazy world.
@@markdemell8056 And mankind doesn't understand that ONLY God's Kingdom (Which they pray for Mt 6:8,9) can solve every single problem. Man can't even direct his own step. Jer 10:23. Plz read only if you wish to. xo
As a feminist, a liberal, a democrat, I have a very deep respect for these men and agree with everything they have to say. I wish more people who align similarly to me would listen to them with an open mind. What a great conversation.
Yea and he actually acknowledges gender exists as a separate psychosocial phenomenon from biological sex whereas Ben Shapiro sounds like he's always upset and thinks that sex and gender are the same thing. But yea it's always a privilege listening to Jordan Peterson talk. I feel like you can ask him any possible question on any possible topic and he will respond with a valid intellectual answer. However, conversion therapy is wrong because you cannot change someone's gender or sexual orientation through therapy because there is a biological component in the brain which makes sense because the brain affects psychology.
Except for the part where he talks and doesn't allow someone to respond. Other than that he is great and I am a big fan of him. Glad to see him healthy.
I often interrupt like this in conversation because I am thinking so fast, I already know what the rest of their words are going to be and I can't wait...it can appear rude, however, I am totally engrossed in the topic and conversing.
To hear someone SO incredibly intellectual....get legitimately choked up over describing how he's seen fathers and sons restore their relationships....it just shows how genuine Peterson is. He truly cares. The fact that people attack him makes me sad.
The state sponsored corporate media promptor reading paid actors define those as crocodile tears. Because they are authentic. And everything they represent is not.
Not everyone is accepting of truth and good. Many people are afraid of change or trusting in truths that are unknown to them, with good reason. Things can change but we all have to be willing to be Jordan Peterson. Willing to risk an attack to speak one's truth and willing to fight for one's truth with respect and patience. We all play a part in the results...
I agree. It chokes me up to see him get choked up about things he’s passionate about. But also it could be because I agree with his views and can relate. It makes sense to me and probably a lot of people. But it’s harder to believe when it’s someone we disagree with or can’t relate to so we should hesitate to dismiss those tears as well. But some times it is very obvious when someone is just being manipulative like a lot of children do to get what they want. I think everyone can agree people are complex and mysterious and all the psychological studies in the world can’t predict all human interactions. Not saying it’s not important, but like all science, there limitations and errors that should be emphasized more to the general public.
Seeing Jordan get a little choked up toward the end really got me. Made me see he is someone who truly cares about improving peoples lives and relationships.
He's had a helluva' ride these last few years. One minute you're teaching at university and 200 of your colleagues are signing a document to have you fired, the next minute a stranger approaches you on the street and tearfully gushes with gratitude for saving their life from ruin. Those smiles he talked about are really who he is, and what he does. Bill C16 and all the crap that surrounded it was a terribly emotional experience for him. As well, he and his whole family went through some medical issues, each one very serious. He's been emotional at other times, but it was always when speaking of the gratitude people have expressed towards him for helping them with their lives. He certainly deserves it.
This interview is a history maker. Perfect setting and very articulated on both sides. It’s cool to see someone on the Canadian side standing up as well. We need more of these two men to stand up against this movement everywhere it’s prevalent. Not against being “transgender” rather against forcing beliefs upon the generalized population
Exactly. After watching so many transgender people talk openly about their de-transitioning, everything the go through, how they are used by the medical community it makes me feel for them too. You are right, it is the imposition of the radical transgenders what bothers most people. A minority having power over the language we use and over how they want us to see our reality according to how they perceived themselves. It is crazy.
I love that Jordan is one of the few person that Ben actually allows to talk over them. This professor is so wise and I could listen to him for hours and hours.
Nah, neither allows the other to talk over them. They are at a level of understanding where the other doesn't need to finish what they are saying to convey the message in great detail it's unfathomable to most
@@stashiv you are right. they dont need to speak at all just look into each others eyes and gaze. They are just next level. Something us mortals will never understand. I will touch myself tonight looking at this clip..
I always find it so touching that the only time I see him lose his composure is when he’s talking about his family’s struggles or when he recalls being approached by people who have improved their relationships. What a reflection of his character.
Love Jordan Peterson. He explains everything in so much detail and states the truth. The fact people are trying to cancel him is sick and disgusting and it shows that he's absolutely right. Love him
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@@RKO1988 Ben was frustrated in that interview because he received multiple loaded questions. IMO the host was passive aggressive and NOT well-mannered because he kept asking accusatory, biased questions. Otherwise known as loaded questions. For example if I asked you, “Why are you a bigot?” That’s less of a question and more of an attack under the guise of a question. You’d be rightfully frustrated if I continued doing this. And that’s what happened with Ben in that specific interview. Moving on. Now I’ve seen over 50 different interviews, podcasts, conversations, etc. where Ben was well-mannered & respectful, including this video. If you want to make the argument that Ben was poorly mannered in that BBC video, that’s fine. But to judge him based off of 1 interview when there are hundreds of other interviews/shows/podcasts/conversations/videos conflicting your statement, is ignorant and nonsensical of you. Because there are plenty of examples of Ben being cordial when the interviewer is also being respectful.
I love this format for an interview. The fact you're talking in a crowded cafe like two friends, rather than reading questions off a card in a quiet studio, is so much more entertaining and engaging. Another great video from Ben, The Daily Wire and Peterson.
@@RightTurnClyde Loved the pun of 'Transgression' in the title haha. This is a very good video and I'd agree with you on every single one of your points, the lobby is rapidly causing its own death by turning people against them and policing the speech of others in reference to what we're 'allowed' to say about trans people.
@@thad1296 Yes, the world on one's sholders in a deep personal way and the deep abais just lerking in the shadow that most are unaware of. That's tough on the soul.
As a psychologist the part if "you are bigger than your fears, not that the fears are trivials" is the best way to explain a big part of a good therapy.
@@commentatoreanonimo4848 Um well you have to essentially learn to overcome them by showing that your determination and perserverance is larger than the fear. Which can be incredibly difficult to do.
@@commentatoreanonimo4848 All fears come from the fears of unknown. People are afraid of death because death is the ultimate unknown. So the only way to overcome fears is to get to know that unknown. All fears could be overcome by confronting it, even death. But to be not afraid of death, you have to confront death. But sadly in that case, you would die, but you would not be afraid of death anymore though.
@@faisal3464 maybe where the governor there was discussing on a video how he would like to kill babies after they are born with doctors approval. Abortion of the future???? Sad really. If not that I have no clue lol
12 mins in when Peterson's emotional response to the father's and sons who've stopped him in the street and thanked him, I really felt that. I was taken right back to the most challenging time of my life, to a moment when the stress between my son and I was at breaking point, and the moment the stress cracked and and we hugged in tears and relief as the sadness drained out of us. Peterson may have many critics, he may be disliked, but for me and my family he is an absolute hero who grew to prominence exactly when the world needed his voice.
I wonder why he always brings up these made up stories that make him semi-tear up? :D Ah yes, it's to get rubes like you to think that he's honest and a real person and not just using you halfwits dollars to line his bank account xD
The reason I love Jordan so much the more I watch him, is how honest he is. He's honest with himself. He isn't afraid to show us his emotions. When I heard him speak about his struggles with life, his wife... I couldn't help but tear up. He's gone through enough to understand how it feels to be really down and have what many consider bad luck.
remember when he claimed live that he had a bad reaction to apple cider and couldn't sleep for 25 days? :D Yeah the world record for insomnia is 11 days. But sure. Very honest, your pUblIC iNtElLeCtUaL ;). P.S.: he lies and mostly fakes tears to get emotional responses out of you rubes for money :D
@@kaivogel253 I didn't sleep for 17 days withdrawing from methadone and Xanax. I wasn't exactly on the phone to guinness. Instead of picking one of his intellectual arguments you picked some weak point against what is obviously a common expression to describe no to little sleep over a period of time and then insult his audience. If there was a emoji for slow sarcastic clapping you'd be looking at it.
@@kaivogel253 Paul Kern was a Hungarian soldier who was shot in the head (in frontal lobe) by a Russian soldier in 1915 during World War 1. Instead of killing him, the wound made him unable to sleep for his remaining life, which was next 40 years till 1955. Al Herpin (1862-January 3, 1947) was an American known as the "Man Who Never Slept". The supposed cause is unknown, although it may be linked to his mother suffering a major injury a few days prior to his birth. In the late 1940s, Al Herpin's claim attracted the attention of several medical professionals; inspecting his house they found no bed, or other sleep-related furniture, but only a rocking chair. Herpin claimed that after a long day's work, he would rest in his rocking chair reading the newspaper until dawn, then return to work. He was in good health, and had a constant level of high awareness, defying all scientific understanding of the necessity for sleep.
I don't think I've ever seen Jordan describe Fathers and Sons that tell him how he's helped them WITHOUT getting teary eyed. Every time he's every brought it up, that happens. The man genuinely cares about helping people and making their lives better. Yet so many people try to make him out to be some sort of pure evil, it's just absurd.
I think it's because it validates his struggle, both with health and speaking his truth. He holds the light of truth as the most import thing, and he'll wade through filth to keep it shining. When someone says his light showed them the way, it proves him to be right, and that his struggle is worthwhile. We see it when we look into his eyes. His zeal hardens with meaning with each success.
That attribution of evil stems simply from his questioning of their world view too. That's the crazy part. Merely questioning it and not providing unfettered love and support for whatever they can drum up in their minds that day is an act of evil to them. It's wild man.
This guy’s ability to defend his ideals is amazing, and I wish I could do that so I didn’t have to live in fear of being tripped by an SJW on every turn
Eat right, exercise/get strong, and read..read everything..start with people you admire, go from there Good luck on your journey..it will be fascinating if you keep going
It's because he's developed his ideals through thorough research. He's brilliant at asserting his ideals, because he's developed them through fact and data 🤷
You live in fear of incompetent nitwits? Just tell them you’d rather not speak to bigots and walk away. The more we ignore their nonsense the better. Let them stew in their self hatred.
Peterson was getting really emotion at the end. It’s just wild to me, that some people hate him simply because of political bias. He’s one of the few people that is genuinely trying to help people.
Yes, Jordan Peterson is very intelligent and insightful. Look up Dr David Anders. He is also very intelligent and insightful, giving faith, religion a very articulate argument.
@@rahulk2633 there's no such thing as a stupid argument against veganism. People have been eating meat forever, it's only recently people are trying to stop eating it on a mass scale. Most people who try to go vegan end up eating meat again, because they can't find a way to stay healthy without it. Most people also dont have the money to be able to and a lot don't even have the access to the resources for it either. It's a really privileged mindset to believe that everyone can do it.
@Ali I've never seen a good one. They usually just attack him for succumbing to benzodiazepines. It's always an attack on his character and his motives. I've never heard anyone try to argue that we should be more fearful, and make our lives as meaningless as possible. I've seen people live that way, but I haven't seen anyone defend it ideologically.
We Super Predators, as Hillary Clinton calls us, can be devoid of fear(even though our predation is mostly manifested fear aka insecurity in the lust to take and be the face of control~authority).
Considering the world in those terms, that maybe some people just never learned to be brave at all, about anything, really goes a long way in explaining how we've come so far off the rails.
This is truly amazing to witness. Two brilliant minds sitting down and having a civillized conversation. You can see that they both respect eachother and are willing to learn. They both seem so interested in what the other person is trying to say. These two should be an example to today's generation.
@@yes-ei2yo Because we, contrary to psychopaths that are scaring people using the media, have this thing called empathy, and when we see people who don't have the ability to do critical thinking and aren't smart enough to realize they are being lied to and there are so brainwashed that they live in fear and torture themselves to the point of limiting their own oxygen for the benefit of a sick political agenda, we get upset, cause if we would have to live like that for one day we would kill ourselves. So yes it's very refreshing to see states and cities that people are living normally like a human being.
there's always been regulation of therapy. therapy has been used in the past to extremely harm people and even children, which is just gross and should be stopped
Things like this happen in "Agreeable Societies", of course this happened in Canada, everyone is so nice (to the point of nauseum). Grow some hair Canada.
@@charlesrichards5389 regulating should be done based on the conclusions made by researchers and medical professionals in order to cause the client the least amount of harm. what regulations do you disagree with here?
It’s crazy Ben Shapiro is SO confident in his positions and knows how to debate SO well yet EVERYONE knows their place in the advise and wisdom hierarchy. When Jordan Peterson speaks, it’s time to listen. Even Ben knows that.
@@centralprocessingunit4988 all Harris does is attack religion, the man cannot have an honest discussion to save his life because his outlook is one of nihilism. Harris seeks death for death's sake.
I had actually forgotten what it is like to see two intelligent individuals having a civil , meaningful, respectful conversation. Men like these inspire the hope in me that I am not alone and our future as a species can be saved.
@@Tesla_Death_Ray You stated that they agree on everything. They might just be discussing a topic which they have similar views. I have seen many people, even ones who agreed on topics, not having civil discussions.
@@nicolast.davinci1561 if they're not talking about anything they disagree with in this conversation, why on earth wouldn't it be civil? It's not noteworthy when both are right wingers
I completely agree. speaking for myself, when i was younger it was difficult for me to feel certain in my gender. Im a woman but i certainly dress masculine. And it always felt good when people mistook me for a guy. Looking back, i associated femininity with weakness and being a target because of early childhood trauma. I found comfort in dressing masculine because it made me feel strong. like the cool guys i would see in movies. I wanted to be them. i looked up to them. as i got older, i didn't know how to distinguish characteristics from gender because society was very certain that these aspects belonged to this gender and those aspects belonged to that gender. But as i grew up, i realised that my power and strength didn't come from the way i dressed. My masculine style didn't make me powerful nor did my femininity make me weak. in fact, the only thing masculine about me is probably my style of dress. my mind and energy is definitely feminine. and there is a huge strength in acknowledging the biological aspect of yourself.
When I was first exposed to transgender ideology in Social Theory, I asked my professor "why can't we just expand our understanding of the two genders instead of getting rid of them altogether?" And she basically called me small minded for wanting to keep the two genders. Thank you for sharing, I appreciate hearing this revelation is still acceptable
The truth is we are male or female. These facts are meant to be accepted and understood. Not interpreted or thrown out. Once facts are separated from feelings we can find what's clearly faulty with our feelins
It’s always amazing watching Jordan Peterson’s way of communicating. He was already in the higher echelon of charisma before he gained the global eye, but as each year goes by he refines into a more and more impressive sage.
I am beyond thrilled to see the Daily Wire featuring Jordan Peterson. As someone raised conservative and also dealing with mental health issues, to see Peterson and Shapiro unite gives me hope I never thought I'd have for our nation.
@@richpiana8020 actually, studies would prove you wrong, since Conservatives have fewer mental health issues than Liberals, but you don't care about those, since you are obviously just a troll!!! 👺👺👺👺
The vibe of the interview: Jordan: ''Oh, I know he is just an uneducated hypocritical kid but we share literally 2/3 of the fanbase so I cannot just embarrass him, so let's pretend I agree...'' Ben: ''He is almost as amazing as me!''
@@milansvancara @Kai Vogel you two are most pathetic persons here, how much they have hurt your feelings to go after them in every comment. Get your facts right and gtfo😂
I grew up as a "tom boy" in the 90s and early 2000s. My parents and community didn't encourage masculinity nor pressure me to be more feminine. Just let me be a kid and love the body that I'm in. They knew back that most individuals were in a phase in life. Today it's the hot topic of the current generation, when kids should be focused on academics, developing useful skills and having fun while doing so.
Main problem with gender politics really is how narrow their view implicates to be by needing a new gender-term to categorize. In fact, it's all just about categorization, splitting different personality types into new genders and taking those as "identitites". It's pretty obvious where the fatal flaw in this is, even if everyone would agree that this is the correct view, it would be utopian if it would work. That whole radical-left stuff is actually just a giant missed opportunity to simply encourage males and females to be whichever person they want, moving away from stereotypical feminine/masculine - cause almost no person is like 100% of either and being more masculine than feminine doesn't disqualify you as a woman in any way. This message is probably the start of the whole movement and.. it made a lot more sense back then.
After all these years of Jordan speaking with other political commentators I’m still impressed by his ability to listen. Most people who gain that level of notoriety will eventually begin to think and act as if their own opinions are the end all be all to whatever issue they’re speaking on. But Jordan has always and continues to show respect to whoever he’s talking to regardless of their political ideology. Bravo Jordan 👏 you have inspired an entire generation of free thinkers.
Yes this is something that stands out when I watch his interactions too. He listens attentively and makes sure that he acknowledges the points from the person across the table which may seem like a minor thing but it's actually so important.
I've noticed that too, even with people who haven't achieved any status. I've noticed that in myself, active listening really is a skill. Jordan has humility and empathy for people even if he doesn't agree with them and he seems like the type of person who is always willing to learn new things and challenge his own beliefs.
You can really see how hard Peterson is struggling at the end to keep from crying when discussing the fathers and sons that walk up to him on the street and thank him for helping them repair and renew their relationship. Its very uplifting and human.
As a transgender individual with some different beliefs, I can safely say that this was one of the most educational and intellectual conversations I have ever seen. It’s so interesting seeing different peoples beliefs on things such as gender! Well done!
@@pbufh i agree with this, but like if you wanna change after that you can bt don't call yourself the other gender as that it something you never was before
Gender/Sex etc these were words to define a person based on their genetalia. There is no "different beliefs" on that matter, theres fact and theres delusion.
he makes up these tear-jerking stories on nearly every 2nd of his vids because he knows you simps fall for it every time. It's a trick and it helps him make you pay for his luxuries. Have fun being played
I think that he might just be getting choked up about Pinnochio. It's a very moving story from memory. There is one part where he gets caught in a whale... I might be confusing that with Moby Dick. Anyway, Jordan seems very well read so am not surprised he is emotional about Pinocchio.
@@silencer1286 probably, but it would be because he would be liberal haha, crying would be just the venue to insult him. If you dont like someone, anything will go as an insult "oh you have a body in shape with muscles ? Look at Mr. Meatball over here"
Ben is probably one of the least humble dudes in the media. It's kinda why he gets the views he gets. He has decent points, but to say he's humble is a goofy overstatement. He's a religious cook with a rigid way of thinking in many aspects of life. Let us not forget his tangent on that stupid WAP song. Dude is in his own little world
@@brillbillbutstill Bro nobody can defend that WAP song/video, that shit was so ridiculous it's not even funny. Imagine a man making a video called "BAP" BIG ASS PENIS, thats clown shit.
"They don't discover that their fears are trivial; they discover that they are bigger than their fears." -Jordan Peterson That was a Eureka moment for me.
I love how emotional Dr. Peterson can get. He’s not afraid to be vulnerable and authentic. It’s a wonderful reprieve from the fronting that is so commonplace on social media applications and in popular culture.
If Jordan Peterson authentically opposes trans rights because he's afraid his kids will have to see it then as far as I'm concerned he's just a nasty human being.
My mind is blown away how these two intellectuals commiserate about the gender spectrum conundrum we are facing. This is a modern day coffee house salon enlightenment that will help shape our future. These two thinkers are certainly molding a new generation of minds. As a professor myself, I am eager to share this transcript with my students. Thanks Rav Shapiro and Dr. Peterson.
Not many people think gender is a spectrum!! There is just man, woman or non-binary!! It's simple and logical!! There are also three sexes tho: female, male and intersex (it's probably better to classify them as a separate category instead of forcing them in the female/male binary). This isn't confusing or evil, it's a shift in the human experience and well, I guess it's to be expected converatives can't really handle that well!!
@闘将ダイモス Nothing about what I said is dependent on anything. It’s my own opinion and feelings. If you disagree with my personal perspective, that’s fine.
I am so glad to hear two REAL men that are proud of their masculinity and leaders of their homes. I am gratefully married to such a man. No, he does not dominate me, he is a solid rock to lean on. I in turn walk alongside and support. For me this is how it should be.
@@kaivogel253 Answer his question liberal. In what world is Peterson a fascist? That word, much like nazi has lost all meaning due to sjw lunatics like you. Terrifying, really.
Amen. This is the first clip I've seen of him since his "return" where his mind seems to be functioning at the same, high level. It's "flowing" out of him naturally, he's not having to "coax" it anymore, and that is wonderful to see.
@@jaykay6387 Agree, I did think he might not be up to the press arena again. Takes time for body and mind to rebalance and feel confident again after such a health scare.
I love watching a man who pursued his true calling and is so emotionally attached to the real humanitarianism that results of his actions. God bless you, Dr. Peterson!
he is famous for attributing chaos to everything feminine. His contempt for women is glaring. You can't be a humanitarian if you hate 50% of the people in the world.
@@kaivogel253 when you only watch leftist publications and never actually listen to Jordan. I mean for real if like you said he hate women then how did he manage to get into a marriage and then also have kids, it's just wrong. like come on dude just pick up a video of his and maybe listen when he talk about his wife, stop creating impression based on meme that is not correct.
@@kaivogel253 why would you say he hates women?? lol. Been watching and reading him for a long time and get none of that. And you clearly aren't a humanitarian either, since based on the comments you've been leaving, you hate anyone who doesn't share your exact political views.
Love the point that Jordan made of how to define gender. There are certain temperaments and personality traits that can be more attributed to men and women but just because one doesn’t fall in line with what is normally assigned to their sex does not mean they are a different sex than what they were born.
@@RantKid Everyone should care when speech is being censored, changed or legislated against. Literally no one cares about transgenderism honestly, people care about preserving reality and freedom of speech.
@UCI5hNio8d8YtqS7FW_NK1Hw Maybe because it's actually affecting laws and our culture now and being pushed on our kids. Fuck off with this "wHy dO yOU cArE" shit.
I love Jordan, anyone who doubts his authenticity or moral perseverance should continuously rewind to 11:58, the renewed emotional moment of the impact he's felt helping others lives. Great new series Ben, love the daily wire!
@@charellesexii6555 not all libs are evil, just like some conservatives are. However the evil libs are much louder than the conservatives. And have much greater numbers
4:55 I've been saying the same thing for the longest time. the claim is gender is purely socially constructed but then why resort to hormones and mutilation, which directly contradicts that assertion?
No gender is more than a social construct. Its part of your identity. And it dont mean that in a discriminating way: You can love to wear pink clothes and still have the thing "male" in your identity. What that "male" in your identity means is different from person to person. But the thing is if you are trans you have that "female" in your identity. And this female is also different from person to person. And it doesnt need to have anything to do with stereotypes. Of Course you can still love cars, women and beer (male stereotypes) and have a "female" identity. Idk if someone can understands what im saying
@@fingolfinmorgoth5511 so gender went from being a social construct to.... some kind of arbitrary internalized feeling of self? if true "man" and "woman" could be defined in an infinite number of ways, which is patently absurd and ultimately meaningless in the end
@@kg356 the main driving force behind gender ideology is that it's purely socially constructed, or at least it's the most popular not sure what you're referring to tho
People can feel however they like. I can feel like the sky is a dome and we live on a flat earth. That doesn’t mean my feeling is valid or true in reality. It’s when people try to change society to fit their own ‘feelings’ that this becomes a problem, because those feelings are not grounded in any measurable facts or truth. So, I feel and truly believe that the earth is flat and we have a dome over our head (hypothetically lol). There are other people who share this feeling. So we get together to try and mandate legislation so that all public schools teach about the wondrous flat earth. It wasn’t an issue when I was just daydreaming about this on my own, but when I’m actively trying to change society based on my feelings, it’s an issue. You might say, but that has nothing to do with identity or gender! Well sure it does, I’m a flatearthsexual. I’m attracted to things that are flat, and very large. By your own logic, you cannot contradict my statement, because it’s ‘how I feel’. It’s not grounded in reality whatsoever, there’s no way you can prove I’m not attracted to flattened spherical bodies and domes on top of them, so just accept it! We need to accommodate all feelings no matter how outlandish. This is an analogy, don’t get your panties in a bunch. I don’t care what dangly bits you have or don’t have, no one does! Keep it to yourself and your partner! Have a good day!
I would appreciate being able to view more conversations between Dr. Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro… two brilliant minds committed to the truth. I was very touched when Dr. Peterson was moved to tears while sharing how fathers and sons approach him after lectures and on the street to tell him how their relationships have been healed by listening and learning from him. I feel blessed to be alive at the same time as these two brilliant thinkers/speakers.
Two extremely intelligent people having a civil and good conversation with each other. Not something we see too often. Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are doing our generation a favour.
A person Mixed with Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris would become the most important person for Humanity, maybe ever haha. Jordan and Ben are religious and bound within their own religious laws and beliefs. while Sam Harris is a Atheist that easily handles with the backlashes of religion.
No, they are not. That are talking. Usually Ben is way to far right, picking hard sides, and shaming people. So anything he I saw correct about is in a pile of shyt, that nobody should dig thru to get the idea. He is a bully for clicks.
I'm amazed by Jordan. He has conquered so many obstacles, fears & endured so much persecution, especially from former friends and co-workers...the man has walked through hell on earth and continues to help others. ❤
The man literally became a popular media figure (who I’m sure has made a ton of money as a result) by lying about bill c16. He is not brave or courageous he’s just kind of an asshole
Jordan Peterson is one of my favourite people. An intellectual who's honest and loves the truth. It's no wonder that he's reading the bible and speaking more and more about God.
Awh man i love how emotional jordan gets in almost every sit down. Hes so wholesome and genuine. Hes the type of person who deserves to be a public figure and speak to people. His thoughts actually hold meaning and potential change
I have always enjoyed watching Mr. Shapiro and Dr. Petersen speak. I have never seen them speaking to one another. I became choked up when I saw Dr. Petersen become choked up when discussing how fathers and sons have stopped him and thanked him for his work and how his work has helped them resolve their issues. The entire conversation was a masterpiece. Well done Sirs!
Listening to this conversation, my question becomes: what are all those woke warriors really afraid of? Can't help thinking they want to alter the culture to accommodate THEIR OWN FEARS.
That's part if what they were discussing, the left has to attack anything that is not "Affirming". The modern left I believe is a mass manifestation of the "Oedipal Complex", the mother being the State/Government/Affirmation groups, you can see it as these groups continuously give affirmations and deny the underlying problem, which is lack of agency/responsibility. And these Affirmation groups use fear to keep them under their control.
@@sgtjonmcc it's due to research into wealth. The biggest determinant factor of your wealth is the wealth of your parents. Not your intelligence, not your hardwork but how wealthy your parents were.
Two brilliant men I admire and trust. They give me hope that we can come together and improve our culture instead of watching our country go down the drain.
Jordan is one half-man, there is only one brilliant half-man centred in this video. A half-man being interviewed by a mere intellectual aka non-man. Full men overcome being rulee by emotion, not crumble in shakey voice that leads to tears and other public display of weakness.
@@linyenchin6773 Him having extreme amounts of empathy for other people is one of the greatest strengths a person can have. He wakes up everyday and does what he can to make other people's lives better, a truly noble thing. Your mindset is extremely weak, and likely will bring down the quality of your life and everyone else's lives that are unfortunate enough to be around you
I love how comfortable Jordan is with his feelings. He expresses his verbal passion without hindering them, and without hurting others. This is a man. Men are allowed to cry when something touches them emotionally, spiritually, and truthfully. Love this guy.
I love that Father-sons come up to Jordan Peterson to express their gratitude. That's the number 1 missing thing in this society. A quarter of America live with just single mothers, So for Jordan to come and make a change and give goals and meaning to men's lives and repair broken homes is something
Kudos to the coffee shop that gets these two coming through daily for these conversations…. As a podcast producer this is brilliant cause I enjoy ambient background noise and I feel like I’m totally ease dropping on two brilliant humans.
I agree never seen a podcast like this before, but is this set up because I expect someone to mouth off at one if not both of them but if it's real it's a cool concept
@@dnakatomiuk I feel pretty sure it's all setup in the background. I work right by this coffee shop and not long ago before this aired I came over during the day to just grab some coffee and the entire place had tons of vehicles and video production guys all around the whole outside. They told me the place was "closed for a private event". So I assume this is what was going on. Plus I've never once seen the guy running the coffee counter before.
@@tizza963 the setting is staged, but at least the conversation is real. It's a refreshing change from the norm where the problems are real, but the talk is all fake.
@@pinchebruha405 there is only One true God and Peterson knows this as well. The God of Israel who crushed his Son on a cross for the sins of the world. Christ died for all sinners and rose from the dead so all could believe and be justified before God. Jesus Christ is the only door to salvation. God's grace is abundant and free, the gift of righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ.
Jordan Peterson wouldn’t want this for you. Don’t feel sorry for something you haven’t done. You’re an individual and not the same as them just because you are trans. We need logical thinking transpeople and you seem to be one of them. Wish you the best 🙏🏻
I love how Jordan isn't afraid and embarrassed to show tears. A lot of people think women aren't afraid to show tears, but I'm a women and I'm afraid of showing my tears...
It's so refreshing to hear two men discuss these issues with both logic and respect. As a mental health professional, I've been appalled at how rude other professionals are towards other professionals who don't agree with them. So hearing Jordan talk in a respectful and thoughtful manner is comforting
Amber Phillips Really? I never knew that bitter contention was common in the mental health profession. I had the impression that all were united in acceptance of a single, overarching dogma-----------namely, that antidopaminergic antipsychotics are the 'gold standard' for treatment of every manner of mental affliction. Well, maybe this is an exaggeration, but a mild one. If despite ideological conformity the pros still cannot get along, perhaps they could use some counseling. Having seen some of the adverse psychomotor and cognitive side-effects of neuroleptics, I'd like to see some of the pros sample them personally, for research purposes. Afterwards they should apply the precept, 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' Once, long ago, I ate a 25 mg. sample of Seroquel. Though a 'drop in the bucket', it made me extremely tired and irritable all day long. Never again, God willing.
I’ve never seen Ben at a loss for words, but I only mean that in the most respectful way, obvious and pure respect listening to the master, and absolute respect to you for just listening bro. That was unbelievably cool, thank you dude. ❤️
Sons, fathers, men in the 21st century have no stronger ally than Jordan B. Peterson. And if daughters, mothers, women should be listening too, you will also find no stronger ally. Thank you Dr. Peterson for your powerful words of academic wisdom. And thank you, Mr. Shapiro for the opportunity to listen.
I've been listening for somewhere around five years. Bit of a fan girl, truth be told. He's a massively impactful and deeply genuine intellectual, "For such a time as this."
@Mary Martin As if I'm going to reassess my intelligence by your comment, and as if you can measure my intelligence as a complete stranger. And being pretty and feminine is my nature, I indulge in it happily and hope the men in my appreciate it. But you made me laugh and I needed it this morning as I've in pain all night, so thanks. Have a great day!
@Mary Martin It sure is good! And I sure am happy, happier than you it seems. But I hope this little bit of empty ego feeding you're doing fills you up for a whole hour at least! Not responding further, as I have real men to go please and I have to get a move on.
Wow, Jordan came back even more eloquent and articulate. I remember his first video after he got sick and I thought that was the end of it. Now he talks as he is in his prime and it feels like he is on a mission. I am truly grateful for that.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. He was close to death, and now carries that experience with him. Very powerful insight for someone who already was as well-versed as he was...
@@Myrzghe watch his daughter’s video about it. Specifically look for their interview with a reporter (forgetting the name.. but his daughter has a response video to it where they go into detail about his illness (which is why the peterson’s had a problem with it… cause the report said itd be about his new book at that time)).
@Jotham J No trans person said sex doesn’t matter, being trans is actually built on the acknowledgment that your biological sex doesn’t align with your identity. The science behind being trans is very interesting, I won’t explain it here but I’d recommend googling it there’s a lot of resources out there :)
@@xshinigamix9661 Let me summarize. The vast majority of people have little understanding of human sexual development from conception to birth. They don't understand that without the presence of testosterone in the womb, the embryo develops by default as a female. They don't understand that the Y chromosome's main function is to trigger the release of testosterone in the womb so that male genitals form instead of female genitals; that this occurs early in the pregnancy whereas the influence of testosterone on brain development occurs late in pregnancy when its presence or absence can create a sexual dichotomy between body and brain. These facts are scientifically supported, and yet, they are rarely brought up or acknowledged in the transgender debate.
I swear, Peterson is a literal treasure of the Earth. He may be one of the most *precious* souls to exist...and I'm infinitely grateful he happened to exist during my own existence.
@@troywallace7011 Kai is part of a Demopath MLM c.ul+. He is clearly trying to recruit others and it deeply saddens him that he cant. Psychologically, he can't figure it out and it makes him even more angry.
This is why books exist, and totalitarians want to censor them. It's why this platform we are on is in such an embattled state. They truth is hard to grapple with, but in doing so we gain our freedom. The easy and comfortable lies that shield us from that truth are easy, so we must be vigilant to remember and pass on the truth we have learned.
I dont think Ben is that great of a thinker. He's a great interpreter and articulator of ideas but they're often not his own ideas, or at least not in the way that Jordan's are. He forms his opinions by piecing together a picture like a jigsaw puzzle and Jordan would be the one creating the pieces.
As therapist, have to say Ben's statement is incorrect "the only therapy proven to work is CBT (cognitive behavioural therapy)" - actually research shows the types of therapy actually produce similar outcomes, the model doesn't determine success - the universal factor that causes 'success' is the RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CLIENT AND THERAPIST. (CBT is very concerned with scoring and tracking, which businesses like, but it's misleading because doesn't account for long term success, only short term - and other models are harder to measure).
Peterson really wants the best for people, you can see it in how passionate and emotional he gets talking of the lives he's touched. 🙏🏻 I Hope and Pray for him and his family to succeed in their Goals. For all our sakes.
I’m not a political person really but I love seeing conversations like this. So glad JBP is your first guest as well, that man has helped me through hell and that spot is well deserved Edit: Additionally, as someone who’s been fortunate enough to meet JBP in person, I can tell you this is a legit conversation. Thank you DW for posting this, it reminds me of that day so well :)
@@1memaga Believe me, as someone who grew up in Loudoun County, I know this and what they’ve taught me. It isn’t pretty here. I was just saying that even though I’m not a political person, I enjoy having and hearing conversations like these.
@@thelivingmanpart2 lol that’s funny, but no that’s not the point I meant a discussion with with no interruption where each one gets to say his opinion.
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Well, dang, that's a bummer for us broke folk. 😕
all of dr peterson conversations should be posted without barriers for the good of all of us
And also rumble is better.
hmmm... questionable decision
I won’t do it because I’m poor and alone. But I enjoyed the content and agreed with a great deal of the dialogue. That’s good then.
Glad to see Jordan is healthy.
I'm new to knowing who he is. Was his health in danger or something?
@@akufromthefuturejmm6237 ya
@@akufromthefuturejmm6237 I’m new as well, that’s what it sounds like but idk why
@@akufromthefuturejmm6237 he use to be a woman
@@akufromthefuturejmm6237 he was extremely ill due to addiction to some drugs he was prescribed while his wife was battling cancer and while in recovery he got corona too (Info from his daughter’s podcast).
Imagine walking into a shop and just seeing Ben and Jordan talking. Bruh id never leave
BLM ✊🏿
Bruh ?
Same. At the same time, I wouldn't speak a lot for multiple reasons:
I'd be completely enamored
I'd be incredibly anxious and excited
And..I'd be afraid that in my nervousness, I'd say something really dumb, or really weird. Lol. Keep in mind, if the same situation happened with literally any movie star, I'd just be like, "oh, hey, (insert actors name)" 😆
Real life RUclips video haha
@@mathsdebater231 pfff😂💩👑
Jordan is a force of absolute good. You can hear it in his voice, see it in the tears in his eyes. He is trying to make the world a better place.
Well, I wouldn't say anyone was a force of ABSOLUTE good.
He is a wrecking ball for good. Not just good, he will fight for good.
You can only see that brokenness in his voice and almost tears going down while JBP comes to his mind his own experiences and thats why is so real original in his expression and try ro do whatever he can to help people.
Thanks Mr Jordan Peterson for your true organically human and ethical as a Professional with such a big goo heart.
God bless America with you and BS, i enjoy see you both talking about this very important issue.
👌👍👏🤗❤💔❤🤗
That's what's funny. These guys are really trying to make the world a better place, and the mainstream leftist media makes them out to be monsters...
And yet I notice it's those same leftists who are always so angry, accusitory, calling others names like 'Racist', or 'bigot' etc. Inciting race riots, and pushing intolerance with their cancel culture.
"I expect to pass through this world but once, therefore any good that I can do or any kindness I can bestow on my fellow creature let me not neglect nor delay it. For I shall not pass this way again."
When a highly intellectual person is brought to tears by the reality of reconciliation that he helped facilitate between father & sons… that’s a genuinely good hearted person.
He's in touch with his feminine neuroticism... we all love him for it.
Maybe he's sad that something good happened. He might be a supervillain in disguise
@@puppergump4117 ahahaahhahaa
Try telling that to the young Turks they'll find a way to spin in it around.
@@God_is_an_Atheist666 I hate that they did that. It's ridiculous how biased they are
If Jordan Peterson reached notoriety two decades ago and had since deceased, we'd constantly be saying "I wish Jordan were here to give us his take on the current state of society."
Be grateful he's with us for now.
Lmaoooooo
I immediately thought of Christopher Hitchens...
@@aurevoiralex As did I! RIP HItch.
@@aurevoiralex Exactly!
If he had notoriety two decades ago the world probably wouldn’t be this f-up
Every single time he brings up how people come up to him to tell him how he has changed their life, he tears up. Mark of a true man!
Because he knows what true love means. He knows love means having the grace to see your selfishness and being willing to admit it and change. True love is never "me me me! All for me!".
And anyone that doubts his authenticity should pay close attention to that fact. If he wasn't, he wouldn't
@@sketchartist1964 Probably also because he has first hand experience with depression and also through his job as a shrink, so he knows exactly how bad those people's situations were before they turned things around. It would be enough to make anyone tear up.
Joyful tears of a man who found his true purpose!
A homage to Dr. Peterson: Enjoy ;)
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In a world where everyone was told "you can be whatever you want" nobody told them that the limits are in reality. Jordan peterson is a good man in a crazy world.
It's a satanically run system that inevitably will fail because it goes against Yah's creation and how he meant it to be ,amein.
@1REVINT more a mantra all parents tell children but it must be told with the knowledge that the world is unfair and unkind sometimes.
@@markdemell8056 And mankind doesn't understand that ONLY God's Kingdom (Which they pray for Mt 6:8,9) can solve every single problem. Man can't even direct his own step. Jer 10:23. Plz read only if you wish to. xo
@@shrinkingviolet3 I am quite familiar with those scriptures ,thanks for the reminder. Here's one for you ,Ecclesiastes 3:11 ,HalleluYAH,amein.
@@markdemell8056 what do you mean by Satanic and Yah?
As a feminist, a liberal, a democrat, I have a very deep respect for these men and agree with everything they have to say. I wish more people who align similarly to me would listen to them with an open mind. What a great conversation.
There's help for your issues.
@@ctb7894 those with no argument just insult.
@@sheridan7475 it was no insult. It's called sarcasm. Dont be so sensitive.
@@ctb7894 "it was a joke" backtrack classic
@@RyanWillis227 who said it was a joke? I meant what I said.
Jordan Peterson's communication ability is off the charts. Under control, thoughtful, descriptive, logical, and as real as it gets.
Yea and he actually acknowledges gender exists as a separate psychosocial phenomenon from biological sex whereas Ben Shapiro sounds like he's always upset and thinks that sex and gender are the same thing. But yea it's always a privilege listening to Jordan Peterson talk. I feel like you can ask him any possible question on any possible topic and he will respond with a valid intellectual answer.
However, conversion therapy is wrong because you cannot change someone's gender or sexual orientation through therapy because there is a biological component in the brain which makes sense because the brain affects psychology.
Except for the part where he talks and doesn't allow someone to respond. Other than that he is great and I am a big fan of him. Glad to see him healthy.
I often interrupt like this in conversation because I am thinking so fast, I already know what the rest of their words are going to be and I can't wait...it can appear rude, however, I am totally engrossed in the topic and conversing.
@Lizzy Bae ❤️ have you ever been satisfied by a REAL man?
@@sinsinnomore5555 I have the same problem where I jump in too quickly and it can appear rude but it is never meant to be rude.
To hear someone SO incredibly intellectual....get legitimately choked up over describing how he's seen fathers and sons restore their relationships....it just shows how genuine Peterson is. He truly cares. The fact that people attack him makes me sad.
The state sponsored corporate media promptor reading paid actors define those as crocodile tears. Because they are authentic. And everything they represent is not.
Not everyone is accepting of truth and good. Many people are afraid of change or trusting in truths that are unknown to them, with good reason. Things can change but we all have to be willing to be Jordan Peterson. Willing to risk an attack to speak one's truth and willing to fight for one's truth with respect and patience. We all play a part in the results...
They blindly attack that which they fear and don't understand
I agree. It chokes me up to see him get choked up about things he’s passionate about. But also it could be because I agree with his views and can relate. It makes sense to me and probably a lot of people. But it’s harder to believe when it’s someone we disagree with or can’t relate to so we should hesitate to dismiss those tears as well. But some times it is very obvious when someone is just being manipulative like a lot of children do to get what they want. I think everyone can agree people are complex and mysterious and all the psychological studies in the world can’t predict all human interactions. Not saying it’s not important, but like all science, there limitations and errors that should be emphasized more to the general public.
I think his tears are sincere. Just as sincere as those tears Christ himself shed for his people who would betray him.
Seeing Jordan get a little choked up toward the end really got me. Made me see he is someone who truly cares about improving peoples lives and relationships.
He's had a helluva' ride these last few years. One minute you're teaching at university and 200 of your colleagues are signing a document to have you fired, the next minute a stranger approaches you on the street and tearfully gushes with gratitude for saving their life from ruin. Those smiles he talked about are really who he is, and what he does. Bill C16 and all the crap that surrounded it was a terribly emotional experience for him. As well, he and his whole family went through some medical issues, each one very serious. He's been emotional at other times, but it was always when speaking of the gratitude people have expressed towards him for helping them with their lives. He certainly deserves it.
Gets me every time
I've seen that a lot with him. He's awesome. Such a genuine, father figure or kind, big brother person.
I know I always start to cry when he does
It worries me a bit; he is wound a bit too tight. You can't let that part of your brain be so close to the surface.
This interview is a history maker. Perfect setting and very articulated on both sides. It’s cool to see someone on the Canadian side standing up as well. We need more of these two men to stand up against this movement everywhere it’s prevalent. Not against being “transgender” rather against forcing beliefs upon the generalized population
How exactly did it set history lmao
@@refmed7794 just saying what they are saying in the video in some places in the world is against the law, so yeah pretty historic fuck sensorship
Exactly. After watching so many transgender people talk openly about their de-transitioning, everything the go through, how they are used by the medical community it makes me feel for them too. You are right, it is the imposition of the radical transgenders what bothers most people. A minority having power over the language we use and over how they want us to see our reality according to how they perceived themselves. It is crazy.
@@refmed7794if you don't know by listening to them, just get lost cuz your brain already is.
I love that Jordan is one of the few person that Ben actually allows to talk over them. This professor is so wise and I could listen to him for hours and hours.
No, people should let people talk
Nah, neither allows the other to talk over them. They are at a level of understanding where the other doesn't need to finish what they are saying to convey the message in great detail it's unfathomable to most
@@stashiv Well said, theres obviously a great deal of respect between the two. I could listen to these two for hours.
100% agree with you!!!
@@stashiv you are right. they dont need to speak at all just look into each others eyes and gaze. They are just next level. Something us mortals will never understand. I will touch myself tonight looking at this clip..
I love how Dr Peterson gets emotional when he sees the results of his work. It has to be very fulfilling.
he is a narcissist who made up this story to get an emotional response out of you simps. He does this frequently. Just check for yourself :)
I always find it so touching that the only time I see him lose his composure is when he’s talking about his family’s struggles or when he recalls being approached by people who have improved their relationships. What a reflection of his character.
it was an act and you rube fell for it. Please send him money, he needs another car in his garage xD
@@kaivogel253 ???
@@jacobober8370 haters hate.
@@kaivogel253 cheap bait
Kai, are you a suicidally angry, sexually conflicted loner with zero belief in hope, or a paid TROLL?
Love Jordan Peterson. He explains everything in so much detail and states the truth. The fact people are trying to cancel him is sick and disgusting and it shows that he's absolutely right. Love him
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Jordan Peterson is a sociopath narcissist and so is Ben Shapiro - they go well together
I absolutely loved this. 2 intelligent, articulate, well-mannered, successful men chatting uninterrupted. I could listen to this for hours on end.
I guess you haven’t seen Ben Chaperones interview with the BBC
@@RKO1988 That’s an odd assumption for you to have of a complete stranger. Your guess was incorrect. I have. What’s your point?
@@theswullnasty3353 CLEARLY not well mannered
@@theswullnasty3353 and you’re a low IQ conservative shill then if you still support him
@@RKO1988 Ben was frustrated in that interview because he received multiple loaded questions. IMO the host was passive aggressive and NOT well-mannered because he kept asking accusatory, biased questions. Otherwise known as loaded questions.
For example if I asked you, “Why are you a bigot?” That’s less of a question and more of an attack under the guise of a question. You’d be rightfully frustrated if I continued doing this. And that’s what happened with Ben in that specific interview.
Moving on.
Now I’ve seen over 50 different interviews, podcasts, conversations, etc. where Ben was well-mannered & respectful, including this video. If you want to make the argument that Ben was poorly mannered in that BBC video, that’s fine. But to judge him based off of 1 interview when there are hundreds of other interviews/shows/podcasts/conversations/videos conflicting your statement, is ignorant and nonsensical of you. Because there are plenty of examples of Ben being cordial when the interviewer is also being respectful.
I love this format for an interview. The fact you're talking in a crowded cafe like two friends, rather than reading questions off a card in a quiet studio, is so much more entertaining and engaging. Another great video from Ben, The Daily Wire and Peterson.
like two friend speaking in a cafe while being filmed by two cameras on each sides of the table...
@@simonboucher5170 Bro you saying you don't bring 2 huge top of the line cameras to brunch????
The intolerant hatred of the trans lobby ruclips.net/video/T1q22hY3e3g/видео.html
@@RightTurnClyde Loved the pun of 'Transgression' in the title haha. This is a very good video and I'd agree with you on every single one of your points, the lobby is rapidly causing its own death by turning people against them and policing the speech of others in reference to what we're 'allowed' to say about trans people.
It’s a set. But the idea of informal conversation is excellent.
Must be EXTREMELY frustrating living in the world we do when you’re as brilliant as Dr. Peterson.
Can't help but think that this is part of the reason why he used to struggle with depression..
@@thad1296 Yes, the world on one's sholders in a deep personal way and the deep abais just lerking in the shadow that most are unaware of. That's tough on the soul.
So me
@@bhaveshtochabbra6853 if you have to announce it it's probably not you
@@andreazuzic8989 ok thanks miss
I could listen to Jordan talk for hours. We need more public intellectuals like him.
Agreed
As a psychologist the part if "you are bigger than your fears, not that the fears are trivials" is the best way to explain a big part of a good therapy.
So if I have a fobia (I have one and I hate it, I don't like the idea I can't have control over my feelings) I must think that I am bigger?
@@commentatoreanonimo4848 Um well you have to essentially learn to overcome them by showing that your determination and perserverance is larger than the fear. Which can be incredibly difficult to do.
@@commentatoreanonimo4848 All fears come from the fears of unknown. People are afraid of death because death is the ultimate unknown. So the only way to overcome fears is to get to know that unknown. All fears could be overcome by confronting it, even death. But to be not afraid of death, you have to confront death. But sadly in that case, you would die, but you would not be afraid of death anymore though.
what did Peterson mean by Virginia 2:05
@@faisal3464 maybe where the governor there was discussing on a video how he would like to kill babies after they are born with doctors approval. Abortion of the future???? Sad really. If not that I have no clue lol
12 mins in when Peterson's emotional response to the father's and sons who've stopped him in the street and thanked him, I really felt that. I was taken right back to the most challenging time of my life, to a moment when the stress between my son and I was at breaking point, and the moment the stress cracked and and we hugged in tears and relief as the sadness drained out of us. Peterson may have many critics, he may be disliked, but for me and my family he is an absolute hero who grew to prominence exactly when the world needed his voice.
Well said 👏
Always a breath of fresh air to listen to intelligent a sensitive dialog. Lord free me the leftist liars!
I wonder why he always brings up these made up stories that make him semi-tear up? :D Ah yes, it's to get rubes like you to think that he's honest and a real person and not just using you halfwits dollars to line his bank account xD
Malcom I’m curious at what age did you have this interaction with your son? I have three boys myself. 16, 5 and 2
Good for you my brother. Father and son relationships aren't trivial.
The reason I love Jordan so much the more I watch him, is how honest he is. He's honest with himself. He isn't afraid to show us his emotions. When I heard him speak about his struggles with life, his wife... I couldn't help but tear up. He's gone through enough to understand how it feels to be really down and have what many consider bad luck.
remember when he claimed live that he had a bad reaction to apple cider and couldn't sleep for 25 days? :D Yeah the world record for insomnia is 11 days. But sure. Very honest, your pUblIC iNtElLeCtUaL ;). P.S.: he lies and mostly fakes tears to get emotional responses out of you rubes for money :D
@@kaivogel253 go get em champ
@@kaivogel253 I didn't sleep for 17 days withdrawing from methadone and Xanax. I wasn't exactly on the phone to guinness. Instead of picking one of his intellectual arguments you picked some weak point against what is obviously a common expression to describe no to little sleep over a period of time and then insult his audience. If there was a emoji for slow sarcastic clapping you'd be looking at it.
@@kaivogel253 Paul Kern was a Hungarian soldier who was shot in the head (in frontal lobe) by a Russian soldier in 1915 during World War 1.
Instead of killing him, the wound made him unable to sleep for his remaining life, which was next 40 years till 1955.
Al Herpin (1862-January 3, 1947) was an American known as the "Man Who Never Slept". The supposed cause is unknown, although it may be linked to his mother suffering a major injury a few days prior to his birth.
In the late 1940s, Al Herpin's claim attracted the attention of several medical professionals; inspecting his house they found no bed, or other sleep-related furniture, but only a rocking chair.
Herpin claimed that after a long day's work, he would rest in his rocking chair reading the newspaper until dawn, then return to work. He was in good health, and had a constant level of high awareness, defying all scientific understanding of the necessity for sleep.
Oh grow up
If I were to find these two just sitting having coffee and ANY conversation, I would shut up and listen, this is gold.
Same
I don't think I've ever seen Jordan describe Fathers and Sons that tell him how he's helped them WITHOUT getting teary eyed. Every time he's every brought it up, that happens. The man genuinely cares about helping people and making their lives better. Yet so many people try to make him out to be some sort of pure evil, it's just absurd.
Satan has his influence over the world; But Behold, Christ Jesus is with those that seek righteousness, ultimately seeking the Lord.
Absurd yes. It’s also deliberate. That’s Marxists for you.
I think it's because it validates his struggle, both with health and speaking his truth. He holds the light of truth as the most import thing, and he'll wade through filth to keep it shining. When someone says his light showed them the way, it proves him to be right, and that his struggle is worthwhile. We see it when we look into his eyes. His zeal hardens with meaning with each success.
That attribution of evil stems simply from his questioning of their world view too. That's the crazy part. Merely questioning it and not providing unfettered love and support for whatever they can drum up in their minds that day is an act of evil to them. It's wild man.
People often complain about qualities in others that instead exist within themselves. Ironic
This guy’s ability to defend his ideals is amazing, and I wish I could do that so I didn’t have to live in fear of being tripped by an SJW on every turn
I’m of the mind that JBP asserts his Ideals, as opposed to defending! (Also Amazing)! The inflection in the language is important here.
Eat right, exercise/get strong, and read..read everything..start with people you admire, go from there
Good luck on your journey..it will be fascinating if you keep going
It's because he's developed his ideals through thorough research. He's brilliant at asserting his ideals, because he's developed them through fact and data 🤷
You live in fear of incompetent nitwits? Just tell them you’d rather not speak to bigots and walk away. The more we ignore their nonsense the better. Let them stew in their self hatred.
They both are amazing at it.
If I walked into a coffee shop and saw these two having a conversation, there’s no way that I wouldn’t be eavesdropping.
*pulls over a chair* oh dont mind me fellas, im just a fly on the wall
Seriously, how can people go about there day…. Sorry kids school can wait
I'd be so freaked out in a good way haha
😂💯
@@luismunoz6949 I know right? How is everyone there not hovered around listening?
Peterson was getting really emotion at the end. It’s just wild to me, that some people hate him simply because of political bias. He’s one of the few people that is genuinely trying to help people.
Jordan Peterson has such a high level IQ it's astonishing. This guy has a bigger meaning for life than most of us can imagine
Yes, Jordan Peterson is very intelligent and insightful. Look up Dr David Anders. He is also very intelligent and insightful, giving faith, religion a very articulate argument.
He has a high IQ yes, but more importantly the thing that made him is he worked harder than 99.99999% of people all his life.
The only stupid thing I've heard him say is his argument against veganism.
@@rahulk2633 there's no such thing as a stupid argument against veganism. People have been eating meat forever, it's only recently people are trying to stop eating it on a mass scale. Most people who try to go vegan end up eating meat again, because they can't find a way to stay healthy without it. Most people also dont have the money to be able to and a lot don't even have the access to the resources for it either. It's a really privileged mindset to believe that everyone can do it.
everyone has a big meaning of life
I can’t see why anyone would hate Jordan Peterson, he’s the best thing since sliced bread, unless you’re allergic to gluten.
@Ali I've never seen a good one. They usually just attack him for succumbing to benzodiazepines. It's always an attack on his character and his motives. I've never heard anyone try to argue that we should be more fearful, and make our lives as meaningless as possible. I've seen people live that way, but I haven't seen anyone defend it ideologically.
Bruh the entire left hates him everybody is homophobic and racist if u don't have the same believe as the left
@Ali like who? bring some examples
Speaks to the hatred and bigotry that leftists revel in
🤣
"She learns to be brave"
And that's the kicker. No-one can be rid of all fear, but we can face it.
We Super Predators, as Hillary Clinton calls us, can be devoid of fear(even though our predation is mostly manifested fear aka insecurity in the lust to take and be the face of control~authority).
Considering the world in those terms, that maybe some people just never learned to be brave at all, about anything, really goes a long way in explaining how we've come so far off the rails.
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Yes. If we could rid ourselves completely of fear we'd be dead or lacking courage.
That's an amazing statement, you definitely get a thumbs-up from me.
This is truly amazing to witness. Two brilliant minds sitting down and having a civillized conversation. You can see that they both respect eachother and are willing to learn. They both seem so interested in what the other person is trying to say. These two should be an example to today's generation.
Jordan has a brilliant mind. Ben is smart but not brilliant.
Unfortunately people will never do that. Logic and common sense has been long gone and people today rely on purely emotion.
Nothing more refreshing than observing two highly respected intellectuals having a well established, educated and un-interrupted chat.
In a coffee shop with no masks is refreshing as well.
@@Groundedrootshealing stocked with extras
@@Groundedrootshealing why would you be upset if they were wearing masks? snowflake
Which video is that?
@@yes-ei2yo Because we, contrary to psychopaths that are scaring people using the media, have this thing called empathy, and when we see people who don't have the ability to do critical thinking and aren't smart enough to realize they are being lied to and there are so brainwashed that they live in fear and torture themselves to the point of limiting their own oxygen for the benefit of a sick political agenda, we get upset, cause if we would have to live like that for one day we would kill ourselves.
So yes it's very refreshing to see states and cities that people are living normally like a human being.
"Now they're regulating what therapists can say in therapy sessions."
Christ. As insane as this world already is, that just cuts to the bone.
there's always been regulation of therapy. therapy has been used in the past to extremely harm people and even children, which is just gross and should be stopped
What the first reply said
Things like this happen in "Agreeable Societies", of course this happened in Canada, everyone is so nice (to the point of nauseum). Grow some hair Canada.
@@yes-ei2yo Depends on who is doing the regulating.
@@charlesrichards5389 regulating should be done based on the conclusions made by researchers and medical professionals in order to cause the client the least amount of harm. what regulations do you disagree with here?
It’s crazy Ben Shapiro is SO confident in his positions and knows how to debate SO well yet EVERYONE knows their place in the advise and wisdom hierarchy. When Jordan Peterson speaks, it’s time to listen. Even Ben knows that.
when sam harris speaks, its time to listen.
jordan knows that.
If you’ve watched Ben’s long form interviews, you would know he’s always been an incredibly good listener.
@@centralprocessingunit4988 all Harris does is attack religion, the man cannot have an honest discussion to save his life because his outlook is one of nihilism. Harris seeks death for death's sake.
@@centralprocessingunit4988 Jordan is a respectful guy.
Not really. He's 100% wrong in saying people can be gender fluid. People have personality traits and feelings. These are not rigidly tied to your sex.
Can you two have these casual chats monthly???? I absolutely loved this!
I had actually forgotten what it is like to see two intelligent individuals having a civil , meaningful, respectful conversation.
Men like these inspire the hope in me that I am not alone and our future as a species can be saved.
They agree on everything. Why wouldn't they be civil?
@@Tesla_Death_Ray No one agrees with anyone on everything!
@@nicolast.davinci1561 they have no disagreement here.
@@Tesla_Death_Ray You stated that they agree on everything. They might just be discussing a topic which they have similar views. I have seen many people, even ones who agreed on topics, not having civil discussions.
@@nicolast.davinci1561 if they're not talking about anything they disagree with in this conversation, why on earth wouldn't it be civil? It's not noteworthy when both are right wingers
If I had a dollar for every gender I would have two dollars and a lot of counterfeits.
good one
Damn that's a good one! I'm stealing it 100%!
Nice one lol
Luv it!!!
Lol!
I completely agree. speaking for myself, when i was younger it was difficult for me to feel certain in my gender. Im a woman but i certainly dress masculine. And it always felt good when people mistook me for a guy. Looking back, i associated femininity with weakness and being a target because of early childhood trauma. I found comfort in dressing masculine because it made me feel strong. like the cool guys i would see in movies. I wanted to be them. i looked up to them. as i got older, i didn't know how to distinguish characteristics from gender because society was very certain that these aspects belonged to this gender and those aspects belonged to that gender. But as i grew up, i realised that my power and strength didn't come from the way i dressed. My masculine style didn't make me powerful nor did my femininity make me weak. in fact, the only thing masculine about me is probably my style of dress. my mind and energy is definitely feminine. and there is a huge strength in acknowledging the biological aspect of yourself.
When I was first exposed to transgender ideology in Social Theory, I asked my professor "why can't we just expand our understanding of the two genders instead of getting rid of them altogether?" And she basically called me small minded for wanting to keep the two genders. Thank you for sharing, I appreciate hearing this revelation is still acceptable
dont think too much ..
@@ravichandrakumarchouturi5571 😂😂
What a story, Mark.
The truth is we are male or female. These facts are meant to be accepted and understood. Not interpreted or thrown out. Once facts are separated from feelings we can find what's clearly faulty with our feelins
It’s always amazing watching Jordan Peterson’s way of communicating. He was already in the higher echelon of charisma before he gained the global eye, but as each year goes by he refines into a more and more impressive sage.
Lol
Two respectful men having an honest discussion. A rare sight for 2021.
not really.
@@wesleydunphy9182 ya not really. That kind of comment is regurgitated so often on Ben and Jordan’s channels
@@wesleydunphy9182 Why, "Not really"?
I don’t think he honestly believe judeism is the word of god but I think he wants to hold onto the family tradition
You got your likes. Are you happy?
I am beyond thrilled to see the Daily Wire featuring Jordan Peterson. As someone raised conservative and also dealing with mental health issues, to see Peterson and Shapiro unite gives me hope I never thought I'd have for our nation.
Being conservative is your mental health issue.
@@richpiana8020 I bet you’re a liberal
@@richpiana8020 bro you don’t gotta be like that my dude
@@richpiana8020 actually, studies would prove you wrong, since Conservatives have fewer mental health issues than Liberals, but you don't care about those, since you are obviously just a troll!!! 👺👺👺👺
@@richpiana8020 Frankfurt school. You got played Rich. Wake up.
The vibe of the interview is amazing. Great job Daily Wire and Dr. Peterson, thank you for this.
they should have went to burger king
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A homage to Dr. Peterson: Enjoy ;)
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the daily toiletpaper :D the favourite news outlet of todays hip fascist fanboy :)
The vibe of the interview:
Jordan: ''Oh, I know he is just an uneducated hypocritical kid but we share literally 2/3 of the fanbase so I cannot just embarrass him, so let's pretend I agree...''
Ben: ''He is almost as amazing as me!''
@@milansvancara @Kai Vogel you two are most pathetic persons here, how much they have hurt your feelings to go after them in every comment. Get your facts right and gtfo😂
I grew up as a "tom boy" in the 90s and early 2000s. My parents and community didn't encourage masculinity nor pressure me to be more feminine. Just let me be a kid and love the body that I'm in. They knew back that most individuals were in a phase in life.
Today it's the hot topic of the current generation, when kids should be focused on academics, developing useful skills and having fun while doing so.
Main problem with gender politics really is how narrow their view implicates to be by needing a new gender-term to categorize. In fact, it's all just about categorization, splitting different personality types into new genders and taking those as "identitites". It's pretty obvious where the fatal flaw in this is, even if everyone would agree that this is the correct view, it would be utopian if it would work.
That whole radical-left stuff is actually just a giant missed opportunity to simply encourage males and females to be whichever person they want, moving away from stereotypical feminine/masculine - cause almost no person is like 100% of either and being more masculine than feminine doesn't disqualify you as a woman in any way. This message is probably the start of the whole movement and.. it made a lot more sense back then.
After all these years of Jordan speaking with other political commentators I’m still impressed by his ability to listen. Most people who gain that level of notoriety will eventually begin to think and act as if their own opinions are the end all be all to whatever issue they’re speaking on. But Jordan has always and continues to show respect to whoever he’s talking to regardless of their political ideology. Bravo Jordan 👏 you have inspired an entire generation of free thinkers.
Yes this is something that stands out when I watch his interactions too. He listens attentively and makes sure that he acknowledges the points from the person across the table which may seem like a minor thing but it's actually so important.
Rule 9 ;)
I've noticed that too, even with people who haven't achieved any status. I've noticed that in myself, active listening really is a skill. Jordan has humility and empathy for people even if he doesn't agree with them and he seems like the type of person who is always willing to learn new things and challenge his own beliefs.
Although I like him too, I find he talks over people very frequently. How many thoughts is Ben able to complete during this conversation?
He's a psychologist so he's used to listening.
You can really see how hard Peterson is struggling at the end to keep from crying when discussing the fathers and sons that walk up to him on the street and thank him for helping them repair and renew their relationship. Its very uplifting and human.
"People need to discover that they are bigger than their fears, not that the fears are trivial" - very very very important.
As a transgender individual with some different beliefs, I can safely say that this was one of the most educational and intellectual conversations I have ever seen. It’s so interesting seeing different peoples beliefs on things such as gender! Well done!
👍👍 great to see people who see a bit of logic over feelings
Pick mee
You are whatever you were born
@@pbufh i agree with this, but like if you wanna change after that you can bt don't call yourself the other gender as that it something you never was before
Gender/Sex etc these were words to define a person based on their genetalia.
There is no "different beliefs" on that matter, theres fact and theres delusion.
Every time JP talks about the people he’s changed and he gets choked up about it, I truly feel how much he cares about his impact on people.
I'm proud to say that I've cleaned my room because of him.
If it takes JP to tell you the OBVIOUS for you to 'change', then I truly feel sorry for you lol.... Also, 5+5 is 10.
@@littylit444 Your empathy has no bounds...
he makes up these tear-jerking stories on nearly every 2nd of his vids because he knows you simps fall for it every time. It's a trick and it helps him make you pay for his luxuries. Have fun being played
I think that he might just be getting choked up about Pinnochio. It's a very moving story from memory. There is one part where he gets caught in a whale... I might be confusing that with Moby Dick. Anyway, Jordan seems very well read so am not surprised he is emotional about Pinocchio.
I love how Jordan is brought to tears regularly from his overwhelming emotions. That’s living life.
Serious words make men cry, real stuff right here
@@Rikarwb he lied and he made it up
@@kaivogel253 u OK?
I find this weird because conservatives would tear him apart for how emotional he is if he was a liberal
@@silencer1286 probably, but it would be because he would be liberal haha, crying would be just the venue to insult him. If you dont like someone, anything will go as an insult "oh you have a body in shape with muscles ? Look at Mr. Meatball over here"
Great to see Ben this humble. These two have clearly a lot of respect for each other. Great conversation.
Ben is probably one of the least humble dudes in the media. It's kinda why he gets the views he gets. He has decent points, but to say he's humble is a goofy overstatement. He's a religious cook with a rigid way of thinking in many aspects of life. Let us not forget his tangent on that stupid WAP song. Dude is in his own little world
@@brillbillbutstill Your comment is very humble.
@@thetoast9262 thanks. I'm humbled
@@brillbillbutstill Bro nobody can defend that WAP song/video, that shit was so ridiculous it's not even funny.
Imagine a man making a video called "BAP" BIG ASS PENIS, thats clown shit.
@@brillbillbutstillAnd that's why it's great to see him this humble. 🤷
I love how Jordan also has emotional intelligence. It's very refreshing.
"They don't discover that their fears are trivial; they discover that they are bigger than their fears."
-Jordan Peterson
That was a Eureka moment for me.
Love this! So true....
Absolutely agree. Great thought
I love how emotional Dr. Peterson can get. He’s not afraid to be vulnerable and authentic. It’s a wonderful reprieve from the fronting that is so commonplace on social media applications and in popular culture.
I hate that he has been broken to that point. the other side will use that humanism against him. we made him carry to much of the load at the start.
If Jordan Peterson authentically opposes trans rights because he's afraid his kids will have to see it then as far as I'm concerned he's just a nasty human being.
@@professionalgameman5409 I hope you have a good evening my guy
My dream is to have a conversation with one of these two. Absolutely amazing human beings with great morals.
I'd be too embarrassed. And I'm smarter than the average dope.
God, same. But I'm sure I'd be considered too young for having an honest conversation with Ben.
Being a teenager, that is.
We are so lucky to see such context for free and live in the same generation as Jordan and Ben, massive thank you!
My mind is blown away how these two intellectuals commiserate about the gender spectrum conundrum we are facing. This is a modern day coffee house salon enlightenment that will help shape our future. These two thinkers are certainly molding a new generation of minds. As a professor myself, I am eager to share this transcript with my students. Thanks Rav Shapiro and Dr. Peterson.
I generally consider myself to be above average intelligence, but these two make me feel just plain stupid lol.
@@alecnorris9600 I feel the same.
@@alecnorris9600 don’t feel bad. It actually takes a fair amount of intelligence to realize others are more intelligence.
@@alecnorris9600 I have to keep going back to hear everything they say, even several times to catch nuances.
Not many people think gender is a spectrum!! There is just man, woman or non-binary!! It's simple and logical!! There are also three sexes tho: female, male and intersex (it's probably better to classify them as a separate category instead of forcing them in the female/male binary).
This isn't confusing or evil, it's a shift in the human experience and well, I guess it's to be expected converatives can't really handle that well!!
I love how close Jordan’s intellect lives next door to his emotions. This informal discussion series looks to be so exciting. Thanks Ben.
Well put.
I love Jordan Peterson. He’s so thoughtful and precise. I enjoy hearing him speak!
@闘将ダイモス Nothing about what I said is dependent on anything. It’s my own opinion and feelings. If you disagree with my personal perspective, that’s fine.
I am so glad to hear two REAL men that are proud of their masculinity and leaders of their homes. I am gratefully married to such a man. No, he does not dominate me, he is a solid rock to lean on. I in turn walk alongside and support. For me this is how it should be.
Love it when Shapiro told Peterson, “the world needs you”. So true. So very true.
When does he say this??
yeah we need a fascist that's easy to unmask.
@@kaivogel253 where's the fascist? im confused
@@kaivogel253 Answer his question liberal. In what world is Peterson a fascist? That word, much like nazi has lost all meaning due to sjw lunatics like you. Terrifying, really.
@@TF-ct5rv Jordan isn't a facist that's true , he's just attracting alot of them, of course not exclusively.
So pleased to see Jordan regaining his mojo and his health. Have respect for both these guys.
Did something happen with him before?
Amen. This is the first clip I've seen of him since his "return" where his mind seems to be functioning at the same, high level. It's "flowing" out of him naturally, he's
not having to "coax" it anymore, and that is wonderful to see.
@@jaykay6387 Agree, I did think he might not be up to the press arena again. Takes time for body and mind to rebalance and feel confident again after such a health scare.
I love watching a man who pursued his true calling and is so emotionally attached to the real humanitarianism that results of his actions. God bless you, Dr. Peterson!
he is famous for attributing chaos to everything feminine. His contempt for women is glaring. You can't be a humanitarian if you hate 50% of the people in the world.
@@kaivogel253 what makes you think he hates women?
@@kaivogel253 When does he say he hates women at any point in any video he’s in?
@@kaivogel253 when you only watch leftist publications and never actually listen to Jordan. I mean for real if like you said he hate women then how did he manage to get into a marriage and then also have kids, it's just wrong. like come on dude just pick up a video of his and maybe listen when he talk about his wife, stop creating impression based on meme that is not correct.
@@kaivogel253 why would you say he hates women?? lol. Been watching and reading him for a long time and get none of that. And you clearly aren't a humanitarian either, since based on the comments you've been leaving, you hate anyone who doesn't share your exact political views.
Wow, Jordan is so genuine. He brought me to tears. He is always so insightful. ❤
Love the point that Jordan made of how to define gender. There are certain temperaments and personality traits that can be more attributed to men and women but just because one doesn’t fall in line with what is normally assigned to their sex does not mean they are a different sex than what they were born.
It's odd how much you guys care
@@RantKid Those right wingers and their pesky…..biological facts?
The fun fact... this was said by Carl Jung... how many years ago now?
@@RantKid Everyone should care when speech is being censored, changed or legislated against. Literally no one cares about transgenderism honestly, people care about preserving reality and freedom of speech.
@UCI5hNio8d8YtqS7FW_NK1Hw Maybe because it's actually affecting laws and our culture now and being pushed on our kids. Fuck off with this "wHy dO yOU cArE" shit.
I love Jordan, anyone who doubts his authenticity or moral perseverance should continuously rewind to 11:58, the renewed emotional moment of the impact he's felt helping others lives. Great new series Ben, love the daily wire!
Pure evil people hate him I have learn liberals are evil souls
@@charellesexii6555 not all libs are evil, just like some conservatives are. However the evil libs are much louder than the conservatives. And have much greater numbers
2 white supremacists All we need is donald Trump and we got the 3 supremacist stooges
@@OneHunnitNoCapStannitOnBidnisz Ha-ha-ha that was joke right ha-ha-ha!
@@m.chumakov1033 Their nickname is "yea right is sik". They aren't kidding!
4:55 I've been saying the same thing for the longest time. the claim is gender is purely socially constructed but then why resort to hormones and mutilation, which directly contradicts that assertion?
No gender is more than a social construct. Its part of your identity. And it dont mean that in a discriminating way: You can love to wear pink clothes and still have the thing "male" in your identity. What that "male" in your identity means is different from person to person.
But the thing is if you are trans you have that "female" in your identity. And this female is also different from person to person. And it doesnt need to have anything to do with stereotypes.
Of Course you can still love cars, women and beer (male stereotypes) and have a "female" identity.
Idk if someone can understands what im saying
@@fingolfinmorgoth5511 so gender went from being a social construct to.... some kind of arbitrary internalized feeling of self? if true "man" and "woman" could be defined in an infinite number of ways, which is patently absurd and ultimately meaningless in the end
@@kg356 the main driving force behind gender ideology is that it's purely socially constructed, or at least it's the most popular
not sure what you're referring to tho
People can feel however they like. I can feel like the sky is a dome and we live on a flat earth. That doesn’t mean my feeling is valid or true in reality. It’s when people try to change society to fit their own ‘feelings’ that this becomes a problem, because those feelings are not grounded in any measurable facts or truth.
So, I feel and truly believe that the earth is flat and we have a dome over our head (hypothetically lol). There are other people who share this feeling. So we get together to try and mandate legislation so that all public schools teach about the wondrous flat earth. It wasn’t an issue when I was just daydreaming about this on my own, but when I’m actively trying to change society based on my feelings, it’s an issue.
You might say, but that has nothing to do with identity or gender! Well sure it does, I’m a flatearthsexual. I’m attracted to things that are flat, and very large. By your own logic, you cannot contradict my statement, because it’s ‘how I feel’. It’s not grounded in reality whatsoever, there’s no way you can prove I’m not attracted to flattened spherical bodies and domes on top of them, so just accept it! We need to accommodate all feelings no matter how outlandish.
This is an analogy, don’t get your panties in a bunch. I don’t care what dangly bits you have or don’t have, no one does! Keep it to yourself and your partner! Have a good day!
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I would appreciate being able to view more conversations between Dr. Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro… two brilliant minds committed to the truth. I was very touched when Dr. Peterson was moved to tears while sharing how fathers and sons approach him after lectures and on the street to tell him how their relationships have been healed by listening and learning from him. I feel blessed to be alive at the same time as these two brilliant thinkers/speakers.
Two extremely intelligent people having a civil and good conversation with each other. Not something we see too often. Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are doing our generation a favour.
True. It's interesting that when each is speaking on their own to an audience, their style is dramatically different, but they're both very good.
A person Mixed with Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro and Sam Harris would become the most important person for Humanity, maybe ever haha.
Jordan and Ben are religious and bound within their own religious laws and beliefs. while Sam Harris is a Atheist that easily handles with the backlashes of religion.
@@N0RZC Yeah Sam Harris is extremely intelligent.
No, they are not. That are talking. Usually Ben is way to far right, picking hard sides, and shaming people. So anything he I saw correct about is in a pile of shyt, that nobody should dig thru to get the idea. He is a bully for clicks.
Well they are both right wing conservative theists. You'd expect they could keep it civil.
I'm so glad that Ben and Jordan are both out there holding the line for all of us... May God bless you both!
God is not blessing anyone or anything!
Asking or thanking for blessings is a pointless thing, as blessings are generic.
you mean the line for making fascism popular again? The line for beating women because they embody chaos (Peterson)? What line bucko?
@@PatKhadgar it? Seriously it? You must be pleasant
@@kaivogel253 lmao that’s such a dumb take on his lectures
@@kaivogel253 , so in your world stating the scientific fact is "popularizing fascism"? Oh ...
I'm amazed by Jordan. He has conquered so many obstacles, fears & endured so much persecution, especially from former friends and co-workers...the man has walked through hell on earth and continues to help others. ❤
What happened to him?
@@Smormu985 Peterson was out for most of 2020 due to compounding health issues. It was a pretty intense thing.
Really?!I just started following him this year.
The man literally became a popular media figure (who I’m sure has made a ton of money as a result) by lying about bill c16. He is not brave or courageous he’s just kind of an asshole
@@silencer1286 I'll pray for you.
Jordan Peterson is one of my favourite people. An intellectual who's honest and loves the truth. It's no wonder that he's reading the bible and speaking more and more about God.
I agree. I am recently in a terrible season of my faith and ... thanks.
by the glory of Satan
@@allmigthygoddess939 Hail!
Awh man i love how emotional jordan gets in almost every sit down. Hes so wholesome and genuine. Hes the type of person who deserves to be a public figure and speak to people. His thoughts actually hold meaning and potential change
💗
I have always enjoyed watching Mr. Shapiro and Dr. Petersen speak. I have never seen them speaking to one another. I became choked up when I saw Dr. Petersen become choked up when discussing how fathers and sons have stopped him and thanked him for his work and how his work has helped them resolve their issues. The entire conversation was a masterpiece. Well done Sirs!
If you like them both, check out their conversations on the dave ruben show
@@nathanb1538 I will! Thanks for the tip!
Two incredible gentlemen. If only woke people would listen carefully to conversations like this, they would stop their nonsense.
Listening to this conversation, my question becomes: what are all those woke warriors really afraid of? Can't help thinking they want to alter the culture to accommodate THEIR OWN FEARS.
i'm a leftist, i listened to it, what they were saying was very vague to me because they rarely related it to the subject
That's part if what they were discussing, the left has to attack anything that is not "Affirming". The modern left I believe is a mass manifestation of the "Oedipal Complex", the mother being the State/Government/Affirmation groups, you can see it as these groups continuously give affirmations and deny the underlying problem, which is lack of agency/responsibility. And these Affirmation groups use fear to keep them under their control.
@@yes-ei2yo exactly
@@sgtjonmcc it's due to research into wealth. The biggest determinant factor of your wealth is the wealth of your parents. Not your intelligence, not your hardwork but how wealthy your parents were.
So much clarity and cohesive thought in a single setting. I love these guys.
Two brilliant men I admire and trust. They give me hope that we can come together and improve our culture instead of watching our country go down the drain.
Jordan is one half-man, there is only one brilliant half-man centred in this video. A half-man being interviewed by a mere intellectual aka non-man.
Full men overcome being rulee by emotion, not crumble in shakey voice that leads to tears and other public display of weakness.
@@linyenchin6773 Him having extreme amounts of empathy for other people is one of the greatest strengths a person can have. He wakes up everyday and does what he can to make other people's lives better, a truly noble thing. Your mindset is extremely weak, and likely will bring down the quality of your life and everyone else's lives that are unfortunate enough to be around you
@@linyenchin6773 This is the best load of crap I have read all day. Congrats.
@@linyenchin6773 How are you doing? Is everything OK? I'm asking sincerely.
I love how comfortable Jordan is with his feelings. He expresses his verbal passion without hindering them, and without hurting others.
This is a man. Men are allowed to cry when something touches them emotionally, spiritually, and truthfully.
Love this guy.
GAYYYY
shows how oppressed and unsupported men are, when we have to point out that is OK to cry
He's a psychologist...I would hope he would be comfortable with showing emotions.
He's a psychologist...I would hope he would be comfortable with showing emotions.
People still look at a crying man as a weakling, it's an ingrained bias.
Whether you agree or disagree with them, they both tend to do a really good job of keeping their discussions with others civil.
Fuck neutral, you are or are not.
I love that Father-sons come up to Jordan Peterson to express their gratitude. That's the number 1 missing thing in this society. A quarter of America live with just single mothers, So for Jordan to come and make a change and give goals and meaning to men's lives and repair broken homes is something
Kudos to the coffee shop that gets these two coming through daily for these conversations….
As a podcast producer this is brilliant cause I enjoy ambient background noise and I feel like I’m totally ease dropping on two brilliant humans.
I agree never seen a podcast like this before, but is this set up because I expect someone to mouth off at one if not both of them but if it's real it's a cool concept
Your not a podcast producer we all know it lol
@@dnakatomiuk I feel pretty sure it's all setup in the background. I work right by this coffee shop and not long ago before this aired I came over during the day to just grab some coffee and the entire place had tons of vehicles and video production guys all around the whole outside. They told me the place was "closed for a private event". So I assume this is what was going on. Plus I've never once seen the guy running the coffee counter before.
@@mikeisi yea its 100% set up. If u watch the full conversation you can see multiple times the two "employees" trying to look busy lol
@@tizza963 the setting is staged, but at least the conversation is real. It's a refreshing change from the norm where the problems are real, but the talk is all fake.
Jordan Peterson is very very articulate. The level of perfection at which he explains complicated subjects is impressive💥
I'll concur there
We are aware
Because he educated himself, worked in the field and honed his skills, thank the gods for that!
@@pinchebruha405 there is only One true God and Peterson knows this as well. The God of Israel who crushed his Son on a cross for the sins of the world. Christ died for all sinners and rose from the dead so all could believe and be justified before God. Jesus Christ is the only door to salvation. God's grace is abundant and free, the gift of righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ.
@@likenl4508 it's just a turn of phrase.
Great interview! As a transperson, im sorry for all the bad things that have happened to you mr. PETERSON. Very sorry! 🇨🇦😓🇨🇦
Jordan Peterson wouldn’t want this for you. Don’t feel sorry for something you haven’t done. You’re an individual and not the same as them just because you are trans. We need logical thinking transpeople and you seem to be one of them. Wish you the best 🙏🏻
@@aristoteles4723 thank you 🇨🇦🥰🇨🇦
Why are you apologising? Did you send him threatening letters?
@@Nimish204 no, of course not, But im ashamed of a lot of the behaviour over the last few years from people like me. 🇨🇦🥰🇨🇦
I just love Jordan's authenticity, hes never afraid to show his emotions and that speaks volumes to all men around the globe.
I love how Jordan isn't afraid and embarrassed to show tears. A lot of people think women aren't afraid to show tears, but I'm a women and I'm afraid of showing my tears...
It's so refreshing to hear two men discuss these issues with both logic and respect. As a mental health professional, I've been appalled at how rude other professionals are towards other professionals who don't agree with them. So hearing Jordan talk in a respectful and thoughtful manner is comforting
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Really? I never knew that bitter contention was common in the mental health profession. I had the impression that all were united in acceptance of a single, overarching dogma-----------namely, that antidopaminergic antipsychotics are the 'gold standard' for treatment of every manner of mental affliction.
Well, maybe this is an exaggeration, but a mild one.
If despite ideological conformity the pros still cannot get along, perhaps they could use some counseling.
Having seen some of the adverse psychomotor and cognitive side-effects of neuroleptics, I'd like to see some of the pros sample them personally, for research purposes.
Afterwards they should apply the precept, 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.'
Once, long ago, I ate a 25 mg. sample of Seroquel. Though a 'drop in the bucket', it made me extremely tired and irritable all day long. Never again, God willing.
i appreciate what you're doing for society. keep it up doc!
@@ultimatedoug2227 good grief!
@@davidsprouse151 ?
Jordan Peterson is amazing! I'm so glad he's recovered and back bringing wisdom to the world!
I’ve never seen Ben at a loss for words, but I only mean that in the most respectful way, obvious and pure respect listening to the master, and absolute respect to you for just listening bro. That was unbelievably cool, thank you dude. ❤️
cause I think that Ben idolizes Jordan and thats the fun thing to see 😅
Sons, fathers, men in the 21st century have no stronger ally than Jordan B. Peterson. And if daughters, mothers, women should be listening too, you will also find no stronger ally. Thank you Dr. Peterson for your powerful words of academic wisdom. And thank you, Mr. Shapiro for the opportunity to listen.
I've been listening for somewhere around five years. Bit of a fan girl, truth be told. He's a massively impactful and deeply genuine intellectual, "For such a time as this."
He has a great deal many intelligent women listen to him, I have been into him years before he became really mainstream.
@Mary Martin As if I'm going to reassess my intelligence by your comment, and as if you can measure my intelligence as a complete stranger. And being pretty and feminine is my nature, I indulge in it happily and hope the men in my appreciate it. But you made me laugh and I needed it this morning as I've in pain all night, so thanks. Have a great day!
@Mary Martin It sure is good! And I sure am happy, happier than you it seems. But I hope this little bit of empty ego feeding you're doing fills you up for a whole hour at least! Not responding further, as I have real men to go please and I have to get a move on.
Discovered Peterson this year! Been following him even since. Absolutely love him ❤️
Imagine walking into a cafe and seeing Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Ben Shapiro just sitting there conversing over coffee.
I wouldn't be able to stop laughing. Also I'd ask the manager if they have a special "2 charlatans for the price of 1" special offer :D
I'd try and get a seat as close as possible.
@@kaivogel253 you might possibly be clever, but you surely are not intelligent
I'd ask to join :)
That would be horrifying.
Wow, Jordan came back even more eloquent and articulate. I remember his first video after he got sick and I thought that was the end of it. Now he talks as he is in his prime and it feels like he is on a mission. I am truly grateful for that.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. He was close to death, and now carries that experience with him. Very powerful insight for someone who already was as well-versed as he was...
@@Josh93B he was close to death? The benzo addiction or a serious illness?
@@Myrzghe watch his daughter’s video about it. Specifically look for their interview with a reporter (forgetting the name.. but his daughter has a response video to it where they go into detail about his illness (which is why the peterson’s had a problem with it… cause the report said itd be about his new book at that time)).
The intolerant hatred of the trans lobby ruclips.net/video/T1q22hY3e3g/видео.html
Great point when he said "if sex doesn't matter than why do you have to go through surgeries to change it?"
Because of gender dysphoria, I’d recommend you do some research :)
@Jotham J No trans person said sex doesn’t matter, being trans is actually built on the acknowledgment that your biological sex doesn’t align with your identity. The science behind being trans is very interesting, I won’t explain it here but I’d recommend googling it there’s a lot of resources out there :)
this video is helpful: ruclips.net/user/shorts2l5cYBY02w4?feature=share
@@xshinigamix9661 Let me summarize. The vast majority of people have little understanding of human sexual development from conception to birth. They don't understand that without the presence of testosterone in the womb, the embryo develops by default as a female. They don't understand that the Y chromosome's main function is to trigger the release of testosterone in the womb so that male genitals form instead of female genitals; that this occurs early in the pregnancy whereas the influence of testosterone on brain development occurs late in pregnancy when its presence or absence can create a sexual dichotomy between body and brain. These facts are scientifically supported, and yet, they are rarely brought up or acknowledged in the transgender debate.
😊😊Pretty sure that science doesn’t back that claim.
ruclips.net/video/8QScpDGqwsQ/видео.htmlsi=oKD0IOjsbt9Rt0Mv
I swear, Peterson is a literal treasure of the Earth.
He may be one of the most *precious* souls to exist...and I'm infinitely grateful he happened to exist during my own existence.
Hi Kyle
Just wanted to say that your comment was extremely on point, and honest. Cheers, mate.
Jordan had his heart on his sleeve , talking about parental relationships, what a fantastic to see how passionate he is about his thoughts and talks .
Always a breath of fresh air to listen to intelligent a sensitive dialog. Lord free me the leftist liars!
he always sneaks in a tearjerker like that because he knows you idiots eat it up xD have fun paying for his yacht xD
@@kaivogel253 it’s an opinion
@@kaivogel253 So much hatred in your heart. You're the type of person to act morally superior while proving the exact opposite.
@@troywallace7011 Kai is part of a Demopath MLM c.ul+. He is clearly trying to recruit others and it deeply saddens him that he cant. Psychologically, he can't figure it out and it makes him even more angry.
Two of our societies greatest thinkers. What would we be without these brave men speaking truth?
This is why books exist, and totalitarians want to censor them. It's why this platform we are on is in such an embattled state. They truth is hard to grapple with, but in doing so we gain our freedom. The easy and comfortable lies that shield us from that truth are easy, so we must be vigilant to remember and pass on the truth we have learned.
I dont think Ben is that great of a thinker. He's a great interpreter and articulator of ideas but they're often not his own ideas, or at least not in the way that Jordan's are. He forms his opinions by piecing together a picture like a jigsaw puzzle and Jordan would be the one creating the pieces.
Jesus Christ, how can people believe these people are the greatest thinkers?
"What would we be without these brave men speaking truth?"
Australia
I swear this comment section reads like a parody forum by people mocking their fans. The level of hyperbolic worship is wild.
As therapist, have to say Ben's statement is incorrect "the only therapy proven to work is CBT (cognitive behavioural therapy)" - actually research shows the types of therapy actually produce similar outcomes, the model doesn't determine success - the universal factor that causes 'success' is the RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CLIENT AND THERAPIST. (CBT is very concerned with scoring and tracking, which businesses like, but it's misleading because doesn't account for long term success, only short term - and other models are harder to measure).
Peterson really wants the best for people, you can see it in how passionate and emotional he gets talking of the lives he's touched. 🙏🏻 I Hope and Pray for him and his family to succeed in their Goals. For all our sakes.
I totally agree. That emotion that you showed towards the end was just beautiful.
I’m not a political person really but I love seeing conversations like this. So glad JBP is your first guest as well, that man has helped me through hell and that spot is well deserved
Edit: Additionally, as someone who’s been fortunate enough to meet JBP in person, I can tell you this is a legit conversation. Thank you DW for posting this, it reminds me of that day so well :)
This isn’t political. It’s infiltrated the schools.
@@1memaga Believe me, as someone who grew up in Loudoun County, I know this and what they’ve taught me. It isn’t pretty here. I was just saying that even though I’m not a political person, I enjoy having and hearing conversations like these.
@@thegreenstar967 fair enough
The intolerance and hatred of the trans lobby ruclips.net/video/T1q22hY3e3g/видео.html
I honestly don’t care where you stand on the issue of gender, this is how every single political discussion should look like!
Inside an echo chamber? Or a busy loud cafe? Lol
@@thelivingmanpart2 lol that’s funny, but no that’s not the point
I meant a discussion with with no interruption where each one gets to say his opinion.
@@azozfs5330 hehehehe I agree (:
@@azozfs5330 no surprise here. These two demagogues share the same warped worldview of course they'll be nice to each other.
@@kaivogel253 This.