I'm a retired Texas police officer. I was taught the police in a different time and age by men who had been policing in Central Texas in the mid-twentieth century. Late one night near the end of our shift a bunch of us got together to talk and just relax before clocking out when a local drunk who was a problem and an ass came up to this old officer and just started verbally abusing him. With the speed and sting of a rattlesnake strike I watch this elderly officer reach into his back pocket remove his blackjack and lullaby this drunk ass. It was one of the most rewarding thumps I ever saw or heard!
That is a Clyde Rice blackjack commonly carried by San Antonio Police Officers. Very popular from the 60'sto 80's in the Bexar county texas area. I know as I carried one. If memory serves me right the leather is rawhide.
@@ObjectHistory Yes Clyde was an SAPD Officer and had taught his son in law all but the Turks head knot when he died. His son in law taught himself how to tie the knot and sold them until this type of impact weapon fell out of favor. I wish I still had mine.
The white centre of the jack may be whalebone, which was used before a coiled steel spring was invented to use with these beauties. That means that this an older model jack, perhaps rewrapped, or just kept well, and much more interesting.
I don’t but know many top notch makers. In fact I know one of them started making pretty much an exact replica of this one because his customers started asking for it based on this video.
Here's the video I made so you could get a closer look at it (so to speak)... ruclips.net/video/BhdqZtS8-mE/видео.html. I'd be interested in selling it, maybe via a PayPal transaction? Just e-mail me back in our thread to discuss. Thanks
Hello. Mike from WeaponCollecter channel recommended you for concerning a question I had about a police baton I acquired recently. It's a 19" black plastic polymer police baton or club made by H.W.C. It's marked "ENFORCER" but this thing is curved like a short Japanese katana sword. It also has police markings and serial numbers too so it was probably used by my local police at one time. It's just strange that I can't find anything like it online, old or new. I'm wondering if the curvature of this club was done at the manufacturing company or if it was modified sometime after it was purchased. I may post a video of this piece on my channel if you'd be interested. But anyway I thank you for your time.
Interesting. Send me a pic to my em (escobarhistory@gmail.com) if you can. I can post it to a few different groups with a lot of retired law enforcement, etc.
No he is not. I have one like it that was his personal blackjack. I’m retired SAPD and carried one just like it until my dog ate it. I’m wanting to get another for a retired officer. They are hard to come by for sale. I know tons of retired officers who have them but they won’t sell them. I have the handcuffs that I used on Ozzy Osborne from his Alamo arrest. A few other things. Send me an email. Maybe we can trade something even if you don’t get rid of the blackjack.
Although this may be irrelevant to the video(and nice vid btw,sounds pretty cool to hear that that was found around my general area),have you ever seen or gotten a hold of a bucheimer penna blackjack,I saw an old advertisment for them on the internet that had a picture of it and I thought it looked kinda interesting
I believe the Penna is asymmetrical. Think of the leather on it folding over like a sheet of paper. So you only get stitching where the edges of the paper come together. Meanwhile Dave's (D3) Frisbee is a reproduction of an old sap design out of... Oregon I believe. On it you'll notice that it's like two sheets of paper put together, so the stitching runs all the way on both sides. But yes, they are similar overall.
Buy my book when it comes out for the full story LOL. It’ll be available in very short order, I’m asking for final changes from the publisher right now. The answer to your question is no but I think I’ve traced their history further back than anyone previously.
I'm a retired Texas police officer. I was taught the police in a different time and age by men who had been policing in Central Texas in the mid-twentieth century. Late one night near the end of our shift a bunch of us got together to talk and just relax before clocking out when a local drunk who was a problem and an ass came up to this old officer and just started verbally abusing him. With the speed and sting of a rattlesnake strike I watch this elderly officer reach into his back pocket remove his blackjack and lullaby this drunk ass. It was one of the most rewarding thumps I ever saw or heard!
Love the old war stories. I live in the Dallas area. Thanks for posting.
That is a Clyde Rice blackjack commonly carried by San Antonio Police Officers. Very popular from the 60'sto 80's in the Bexar county texas area. I know as I carried one. If memory serves me right the leather is rawhide.
Yeah! I didn’t know that at the time. I was lucky to acquire one when I had just started on this subject. Need to make a new video about that.
@@ObjectHistory Yes Clyde was an SAPD Officer and had taught his son in law all but the Turks head knot when he died. His son in law taught himself how to tie the knot and sold them until this type of impact weapon fell out of favor. I wish I still had mine.
Does anyone know the technique used to braid this boi?
The white centre of the jack may be whalebone, which was used before a coiled steel spring was invented to use with these beauties. That means that this an older model jack, perhaps rewrapped, or just kept well, and much more interesting.
I liked that design.
Do you have any idea on how to make this blackjack?
How to braid and etc.
I don’t but know many top notch makers. In fact I know one of them started making pretty much an exact replica of this one because his customers started asking for it based on this video.
@@ObjectHistory can you say who is the maker?
I'm still interested in buying this for the amount we agreed on before. LMK.
Here's the video I made so you could get a closer look at it (so to speak)... ruclips.net/video/BhdqZtS8-mE/видео.html. I'd be interested in selling it, maybe via a PayPal transaction? Just e-mail me back in our thread to discuss. Thanks
Hello. Mike from WeaponCollecter channel recommended you for concerning a question I had about a police baton I acquired recently. It's a 19" black plastic polymer police baton or club made by H.W.C. It's marked "ENFORCER" but this thing is curved like a short Japanese katana sword. It also has police markings and serial numbers too so it was probably used by my local police at one time. It's just strange that I can't find anything like it online, old or new. I'm wondering if the curvature of this club was done at the manufacturing company or if it was modified sometime after it was purchased. I may post a video of this piece on my channel if you'd be interested. But anyway I thank you for your time.
Interesting. Send me a pic to my em (escobarhistory@gmail.com) if you can. I can post it to a few different groups with a lot of retired law enforcement, etc.
No he is not. I have one like it that was his personal blackjack. I’m retired SAPD and carried one just like it until my dog ate it. I’m wanting to get another for a retired officer. They are hard to come by for sale. I know tons of retired officers who have them but they won’t sell them. I have the handcuffs that I used on Ozzy Osborne from his Alamo arrest.
A few other things. Send me an email.
Maybe we can trade something even if you don’t get rid of the blackjack.
Saw your e-mail. Will respond there. Thanks.
Although this may be irrelevant to the video(and nice vid btw,sounds pretty cool to hear that that was found around my general area),have you ever seen or gotten a hold of a bucheimer penna blackjack,I saw an old advertisment for them on the internet that had a picture of it and I thought it looked kinda interesting
Thanks- Funny you ask because a vintage Penna is very high on my wish list, maybe #1.
Object History well hopefully you find one and make a video on it!
Object History I was checking out D3 protection,and their 10 inch frisbee flat sap seems to be a close reproduction of the penna
I believe the Penna is asymmetrical. Think of the leather on it folding over like a sheet of paper. So you only get stitching where the edges of the paper come together. Meanwhile Dave's (D3) Frisbee is a reproduction of an old sap design out of... Oregon I believe. On it you'll notice that it's like two sheets of paper put together, so the stitching runs all the way on both sides. But yes, they are similar overall.
Is it wail bone ?
None of the ones in this video are made of whale bone. Will acquire one some day.
@@ObjectHistory no sorry i ment the peg in the bottom of the sap
Ah. Well I think this one postdates the general use of baleen but maybe it is because I can't figure out what it's made of.
I have one just like this... Dirty and used.
Are you selling this, I didn't listen to the wholbad
Is there any evidence of blackjacks being used as far back as the 1400s (15th century)?
Buy my book when it comes out for the full story LOL. It’ll be available in very short order, I’m asking for final changes from the publisher right now.
The answer to your question is no but I think I’ve traced their history further back than anyone previously.