EXCLUSIVE: Tesla Bot Competitor CEO Says Will Beat Tesla to the Home (Bernt Bornich 1X)
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2024
- Today we will be interviewing the Bernt Bornich CEO of 1X, one of the leading AI robotic companies producing androids capable of human-like movements and behaviors.
They are VERY different from all the other humanoid bot companies: 1) Going to attack home market not enterprise 2) Build Neo to be 66lbs so safe for the home
Starting first with their wheeled robots called Eve, they’ve now unveiled their next-generation bipedal humanoid NEO which will start full-scale production next year
With a partnership and funding from OpenAI, this US/Norwegian company had the world’s first commercially deployed humanoid robots patrolling large premises for top U.S. space and aerospace clients. They’ve also done pilots in logistics with tens of droids working in a customer warehouse facility.
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Wow, super insightful video! Bernt really put on a seminar on how to approach the consumer bot space. His focus on safety in the home was fascinating. It makes me think none of the other bot companies can compete in the home space since they have heavy, dangerous, gear driven bots that would accidentally injure people. It's amazing that they can make a human sized bot at such a low weight. My dream is to have a house bot and this looks like a company to watch. I didn't really take 1X very seriously before this since their bot looks kind of goofy with the puffy shoulders and cartoon face, but now I see what they are aiming at. 🙂
He has to sell something.....we will see, who will be the dominating company in humanoid robotics, the race just started.
I have to say Herbert you are great source of information, putting out really great stuff with all of these bot CEO, CTO interviews.
This ranks top of your videos. I was skeptical at the beginning, but found Bernt had a well thought out plan with many ideas and solutions I had never considered. A very bright guy.
Bernt is young and talks dope things - he thought it over thousands of times, explaining it as he was planning it for last 5-10 years with his whole heart. I hear only great conclusions !
He seems pretty knowledgeable and genuine unlike some of you guys compare him to Trevor Milton haha
great conversations. learned a lot of new things about humanoid space. can't wait to see NEO in our home in the near future !!
They may have the ability to get there first, but can they build them at scale as affordably as Tesla can?
I doubt their manufacturing scale and efficiencies are there.
This is just a startup without any experience in manufacturing anything. To create a production line, they will need sub-suppliers, experience in building such production lines, and also the ability to quickly change the production process and optimize it. Musk can be pretty annoying at times, but only a fool would claim he doesn't understand manufacturing. I wouldn't bet a single dollar on this startup.
Good conversation. Thank you! I agree with Herbert that Berndt has really studied and thought out this problem over many years, starting from the basic motor mechanism to a global view of how the robot will interact with people and the world in a safe manner. I like the soft, padded skin idea and light weight for human and household interaction. I started playing with a Heathkit Hero 1 kit robot in the 1980s, with a mobile base and a single robot arm with sensors. The robot weighed about 40 lbs., so I could lift it and transport it in the front seat of my car to different locations, to test how it would operate in different environments. Good luck with the company!
What a pleasant guy-Bernt, thanks for sharing.
It feels Bernt is underselling his bot. The interview has been super exciting: they are targeting household customers, mass production in 2025, less than 25k pricetag, he already has a bot in his house with his kids. That's crazy! And it seems Herbert really had to pull all this info out of him whereas most CEOs would be bragging about it 😂😂
Also, in a home environment acoustic information is of high importance, like hearing a kettle of water reach boiling and such.
Thus it might be worth giving a domestics bot an acoustic cameras capability so that it can better locate and ID sounds, like who is speaking to it or what was that noise and what do I need to do about it.
e.g. Google
Acoustic Camera - Explanations
and
Smart Vision - Acoustic camera for Newcomers with up to 100 acoustic pictures per second
For hearing a sound can help one identify what is happening in teh world just as can seeing, and even more so if the two can be correlated.
Maybe you best interview. Worth every second
Dr John needs to let the guest speak. I have noticed that with his interviews, The guest is makining a point and Dr Jphn interrupts and talks over him. Please stop.
I could listen to these robot videos all day. It’s so cool that they want to sell the robot to the public first. I think an interesting question to ask him is how his company plans to tackle the misuse of robots by the general public (either to cause harm or for weird activities). Or how they would be serviced if there is an issue. Selling to the public first seems incredibly difficult.
It's one thing to create a prototype, it's quite another to create a production line and the capacity to produce hundreds of thousands of a particular item. For example, SpaceX produces one Raptor engine per day, and the Russians produce 20 RD-180s per year. The same will happen with robots - Tesla will be the only company that will be able to produce tens of thousands of robots every year and at a competitive price. Bernt Bornich should be aware of this.
These smaller startups will have plenty of big companies proficient in manufacturing wanting to partner with them.
TESLA doesn‘t even have a prototype yet
@@juliahello6673 This does not mean anything, because it is a completely new product and the most important thing is that a company not only has production capacity, but has experience in completely new innovative solutions in terms of building a production line and its optimization in the future. Also, this project where the prototype and the production line are created by the same company will be successful because the prototype will be created to be produced easily and at a low cost. Boston Dynamics is owned by Hyundai, but this does not mean that the Koreans will easily produce what the engineers of their subsidiary company create. People have the delusion that mass production is just a printer, but this is a big misconception.
If I had to make a prediction for this startup, it would be negative. Most likely they will not survive
@@jovan51212 You have no way of knowing that. You can only guess
@@jovan51212 I asked my friend, Optimus, and he told me you are right. They have no prototype.
Thank you for this!
Some deep thinking. Civilization harvests energy and turns it into goods and services.
One of your best videos, Herbert! I know it's hard to invite these kinds of people, but do your best. Inviting Hans Nelson or Brian doesn't help much because they just guess. I'm considering joining your channel. Congratulations!
The pie will be huge, there's enough room for others. TSLA will be a dominant player, maybe along w/ a couple of others.
Even if they do "beat" Tesla, this isn't a race to "winner takes all". There is plenty of room for all good bots and Tesla will definitely be making among the best general purpose bots, probably even the best as they can take their time and do it right rather than rush things because of financial pressures and deadline.
Super interesting interview! I was considering applying for a job at 1X a whilte back as I live across the fjord of them, but you know, scared to leave current safe job ;P
It really sounds like Bernt and 1X are brilliant and I think it may be smart of them to go for a more domestic focused deployment while others go for factories first.
i love this guy!!!
Fascinating interview
I enjoyed this interview. I always thought that humanoid robots would be deployed first in industries and we would have to wait a long time before having humanoid robots in home. This guy gives me hope that we will have humanoid robots in home in the near future. Eve robots are already doing a great job using AI, I hope to see Neo in action soon.
Wow Bernt Bornich, you are so interesting to listen to. An incredibly intelligent person. If you don't reach the top of humanoid robotics first, it won't be because of inability to to so. I hope I can afford Neo when it becomes available.
I think there is room for many different types of Androids/Robots humanoid or other types using wheels or animals or insect body/limb type depending on function.
Cool interview!
Awesome stuff, can't wait to have one of these helping out around the house and at an affordable price by the sounds of it.
Cheers guys
Incredible
I haven't watched yet, but Tesla is trying to get to the factory which, if successful, will save them a minimum of $50,000 a year per FT worker replaced.
How many people are willing to pay $50,000 a year for the robot in their home?
FYI: Typically, the actual costs of your employees are somewhere between 1.25 to 1.4 times the base salary and Tesla is on the higher end. So an employee making $45,000 would cost Tesla $63,000 in total.
Yes, eventually I'm sure they'd like to get to the home but that's not where the money is for a while.
Fast food and warehouse employers would be another source who would be willing to pay more than all but a few homeowners. As the minimum wage goes up for very simple jobs the incentive to automate the jobs increase.
Love your perspective, you’ve got a brilliant take on this!
Two points:
First: A small point. Elon has said many times that Optimus will not replace humans for a long time. They will supplement humans, doing the DDD jobs (dangerous, dull and dirty) while their human "shepherds" manage them. They will increase productivity of the whole team and won't replace any humans for years.
Second: As Bernt said, in the home the bot needs to be very safe around humans. That must be a restriction on the learning capabilities. Tesla's Optimus will lean fast in a safer (less human interactive) factory environment. Tesla's number one consideration for everything they do is safety. They'll make it safe and teach it and optimise it and then release it into homes.
I don't see Wes Roth credited here. Did I miss something?
Along the lines that real actions work much better to train AI than simulated, that is yet another reason to train bots to ride e -bikes in that even though that is not the same as driving an car there are many similarities in that navigating a road requirement many of the same factors be it a four wheel or two wheeled vehicle doing the navigation, but one can try thing son a bike that one might be reticent to do in a car, like ride down a run of stairs or the like.
For a 66lb robot on an 60lb e bikes poses much less of a safety issue that has a top speed of 20mph than a car, but can perform many of the same tasks as a car like changing lanes, making turns, dealing with traffic and pedestrians, road work, and the like and thus deal with much the same agent behavior.
There are some other ways of deploying bots such as these such as on the end of a larger robot arm mounted on a vehicle, much like a cherry picker.
BTW, I just made and uploaded a video to my RUclips channel describing this idea in more detail.
BTW, I added a few more comment on my video, one in which I suggested that 1X might be a good horse to bet on!
Optimus wont "start in Enterprise"...outside of Tesla factories. It will trickle into every part of the labor market.
delusional tesla bag holder lol
@@sender5804 I have zero TSLA shares. Not even a single options contract open. Brain dead lack of foresight broke boy lol
OMG Carrot Top started a robot company?!?
For the joint, i can imagine something like a crane where there is a tendon like cable and ring
New to me: ADT Commercial rebranded as Everon on October 2, 2023, after the acquisition of ADT Commercial by private equity firm GTCR.
Bot? Robot? Android? Humanoid? 🧐❓
Another use for humanoid bots could be mine clearing.
They could wear mine clearing boots to help minimize damage if they step on a mine.
e.g. Google
Ukrainian Engineers 3D-Print Boots To Help Protect Sappers
They could carry mine detectors as well.
e.g. Google
Best Metal Detectors for Every Budget in 2024
This should be a rather simple task to train a bot to do and could save lives as well as limbs.
There are track based mine clearing system but a humanoid bot seems like a much better approach in that legs offer more flexibility than tracks and can mimic what a human sapper does as well.
And even if the bot walks slowly that should not be any problem when clearing a minefield in that one needs to move carefully in them.
The bot could also be train to disable or remove the mines well or that could be done via teleoperation.
Also the bot could carry several paint ball guns say red and yellow where the bot could mark a mine with red paint and a cleared way point along a cleared path with yellow paint.
And in regard to employing bots for military use, just as humans can go back to their civilian jobs after the war so could the bots, unlike specially design equipment for military purposes.
And also, unlike humans that say might lose a leg or such, a bot can lose a leg and just get a new one and be as good as new.
So bots are a great investment no matte the purpose in that they can be readily repurposed as the situation might require.
Robots made of hard plastic with gears are outdated: All future robots will eventually copy Neo’s gearless soft design.
Prediction: 12 months after Neo is released we will see copies of humanoids coming out of China all using a similar soft gearless design.
Don’t think they have fully thought through the design though. Fabric is impractical if the robot is cooking and gets raw food all over its hands and upper arms. It will need to be waterproof so it can wash itself between handling raw and cooked foodstuffs.
Also it will need to be capable of cleaning itself of dust and dirt after a day out accompanying the owner. Easiest way to do this will be by taking a shower. Fascinating interview and has great potential to be the first home humanoid but still needs a lot of work.
I can see Tesla completely overhauling the design of Optimus and starting again from scratch if their engineers watch this.
1x is lightyears ahead in terms of understanding the path.
Second this, all the other companies make metal shell, heavy and mechanically non compliant bota that are not safe around humans.
It appears they are all on wheels , surely that’s a negative
Neo is their best Gen bot it has legs
@@jhunt5578 👍
Or when I step on the tub ledge to close the bathroom window…
“Go Go Gadget Arms.”-Inspector Gadget
You can be the first but who does it better.
there's no money being in the home(yet)
as price comes down, and capabilities improve, these bots have to be strong enough, dexterous enough, and gentle enough to handle senior citizens, do gentle dishes, etc before they are worth it for most people.
most elderly people these days barely have enough money to keep living in their own home after retirement, let alone pay for a bot(or another human) to take care of them.. cost has to be CHEAP.
I’m not saying it is, but is this like GM Cruise & Waymo beating Tesla at self-driving?
I love wheels , most bots will want to roll it is jsut faster. Spin on a dime. Great bot! Still want a Tesla Bot.
Great work Brent.
Spin on a dime and get foiled by stairs and grass.
@@jhunt5578 Spent years in in assisted living and nursing home construction. Both huminoids and wheeled forms will have a place. It will be fun to see it all deveolpe at an incredible pace.
Now I am old and a frequent patient at the hospital staying healthy. Think about this, they will smart sumon the many portable units like xray units to the room needed.
It is funny just today iI told my wife that the lawn service an atonamus truck will deliver atonomus mowers that will mow, trim, blow and go. Auto bill pay of course.
Endless possibilities.
The Senior Dreamer.
Just sound like how Mobileye was ahead of FSD for years. Now Mobileye is nowhere to be found, while FSD is way ahead. “Tesla’s Bots, let’s roll”. --Optimus Subprime.
You used Wes Roth video and didnt give any credit.
Yes sorry about that! I will add it to the description. I even discussed it with Bern before I used it. But then forgot to mention it during the interview
@@BrighterwithHerbert Thank you for this answer. All the best! :)
That’s fine, Tesla will be a major player regardless. Neo looks like it’s going to carjack you… not sure about that design theme…
😂💀
Wow … , actually Eve can be deploy as companion robot for elderly living alone , not for work but just companionship or maybe simple function like playing chess, that can help solve anxiety and depression among lonely immobile elderly.
Eve also can be a tutor to older children (active robot can keep children engage better than a passive iPad ), it can be trained and equipped with high quality program so children learn useful practical knowledge, helps improved the standard of education. The service can be offered as a form of fleet tutor, so lower income parent can rent a robot tutor at cheaper rate and solve the tutoring issue for lower income family children as currently many cannot afford quality education. (I think tutoring can be huge in asia, most Asian parent love to hire tutor 😂, the tutoring market is huge)
if one is desperate for attention-use Tesla!
What did that add to the discussion about robots? Just a poke to highlight your antipathy for Tesla? Helpful in what way?
Well, the Nissan leaf was first. Are they profitable? 😂
Disappointed no credit is given to Wes Roth for using his video clip
There is a link in the description
@mattko no there isn't
I own a Car Detail Cleaning Business. I'd like to see a Robot do my job, I seriously would like to, then I'd hire some.
Beat tesla to what exactly? One company may be first to market or first to scale or first to affordability or first to practical incredibly useful tasks. We will see who is first to this cumulative end point.
Beat Tesla huh? Looks like we have another Trevor Milton o our hands...
X1 might be market ready before Optimus but into consumers homes.... not likely.
There's dozens of not a hundred plus different manufacturers and readily available robots with ai but why haven't they made an impact on the consumer market? Price, these machines start at the low end $100,000 and up to $300,000 even Asimo is $2.5 million dollars. That doesn't include monthly or yearly server fees.
If the Optimus stays on track for a $20,000 price point, why buy one $200,000 robot when you can get ten for the same price?
So no I do not believe any of the current market ai robots will make it into consumer homes, but I have high hopes Optimus will be the first.
Did you even see the video? They will sell cheaper than Tesla!
Bernt is a Robot lol
The safe exterior is great.🙌🏽
Especially with our sensitive human flesh as we will be working together man and machine.
The interior network brain is what terrifies me with Alt-Man. 🤨
“Mama’s gonna keep baby healthy and warm… Oooooooo, Babe, Oooooo Babe..”-Mama, Pink Floyd, The Wall.
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Tesla bot should be on wheels, but able to walk up stairs
Need that shoes with wheels hahaha
No leg with stupid big wheel is real competitor? you guys jus make big mistake , the main goal of Elon to produce robot is let them walk in the mars
Can this wheel robot can move at the rough land of mars ? Just a cripple
They're next gen robot called Neo has legs. They already have 100 build and are training them. They just haven't demoed the bot yet.
Be careful, some of the images shown look like people in robot suits. (Like Tesla did initially). Too much hype in this space, it’s a very long, expensive journey.
Being first doesn’t mean anything.