$10 vs $1000 Car Detailing Products
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2023
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We’re testing cheap vs expensive detailing products: we get the expensive stuff, and the pros get the cheap stuff.
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Glad Nolan was finally on high team 😂
He's high alright...
@@joshuagibson2520no
Any idea who’s going to be at low team next time? Is it just Jer now? 🤣
Hope he doesn't like it too much. I'm always cheering for low team!
Less James and more Nolan is always a good thing.
Props to the detailers. They seem like cool dudes.
These types of comments and people who leave them are basically trying to let everyone know there g*y without coming out and saying it
@@trillnix3043you need a hobby
@@trillnix3043what a nerd holy shit
@@trillnix3043or you could not
Are you taking the piss you can clean the car and save the lives
Now have the pros do yalls side again but with their usual tools they use, and see how much we better it looks 😂
Agree 100%
Dew it!
I was expecting that. And by the way I have 20 years of experience and enjoyed this video
I'd like to see that as a post script - a 5-minute video on the boot/trunk - everyone would watch that.
The Apple Watch getting washed many times lol
Thank you guys for using our shop for this video! 🙌 Love the way it came out!
You guys have a dope shop. Super jealous!
I agree, it's a dream!
From the detailing industry, thank you for being educational and transparent on the products/skills. ❤
Does that flooring drain well?
@@djc1485 I don’t have it personally, but everyone I’m acquainted with that has it enjoys it for drainage. You just have to lift it up and clean under every so often
i can see the honesty in the professionals' soul
true professionals
they’re gonna honestly charge you 500 dollars for a detail
@@glareicebutts1423 considering the cost, time and quality of products they use, $500 is a damn good price
@@glareicebutts1423 A detail worth 1000
@@nox6438 i mean one you would get every couple months not the ppf or clear coat application, where a detail costing 1k would be just you getting ripped tf off
Donut is like Saturday morning cartoons for overworked adults like me
thank you @donut for giving our detail boys some love. So many people out there do not understand the time and energy it takes to actually clean a car properly,
especially with a neglected car
That ending transition where you guys are saying thanks for watching in the reflection of the paint was pretty clever 🔥
meh
No one cares
Seeing you guys on actual ads is the first time I have not skipped an ad in a while. It’s so good to see actual car people on commercials.
they use to do animated ones that were great too
@@michaelrogers6008i didn't like the animated ones
Hope you make a video on how to clean and detail further on :
- Different Products to get back deep blacks on plastic trims and panels
- Headlight restoration (Polishing,Steaming, or Spraying a new layer of clear coat)
- Chrome and Exhaust tip restoration products
- Grease for Doors and Mechanical parts
- Glass cleaning products (Spritus, normal glass cleaner, special car glass cleaner etc.)
For glass I use glass cleaner and then wipe them with a little wax to protect them and to make water slide off better
I think Chris Fix has a pretty exhaustive headlight restoration product comparison (if I remember correctly)
@@jspaulding4106 you just can't forget the blinker fluid at the end of the process, regardless of how you go about the actual restoration.
Typically for black plastics that are faded you are going to want to restore those with a solution dye. If not use Shine Supply Trim Sauce to give it temporary shine.
Headlight Restoration is tricky and should be done by a professional. Typically gets multiple steps of sanding before polish to get a clear finish.
For Chrome I personally use Aluminum Restoration I believe it’s called. It’s typically an acid that you have to heavily dilute with water but the results of scrubbing within a few seconds is phenomenal.
For glass cleaner I prefer 3D’s new line of Cermaic Glass Cleaner. Use 1 rag to clean the glass and another to buff out the streaks.
There’s my professional detail advice for you :)
@@austinpls8258headlight restoration is an easy DIY, don't pay someone $100+ for it. As someone who works for a detailer I can tell you it's a ripoff. Personally, I got the sylvania kit and achieved like new results with it. If you have a polisher, it can be even better
As a professional detailer, i would love to see more of this stuff from you guys! Im also really jealous of their detail shop, it looks so good!
Okay Donut. I really appreciate the effort you put in to share some of the ins and outs of detailing. That being said, as a professional I found some issues with this video.
1. Clay bar isn't actually clay. From what I understand it's synthetic but just going by that definition doesn't make it the same as other "clay bars". Clay BARS are abrasive. They can mar the paint but they're good at lifting deeply embedded contaminants. Clay mitts and towels are generally considered non abrasive given proper lubrication. DIY Detail takes pride in there perforated clay towel because it holds more lubrication and has passage ways for contaminates to lift away from the paint.
2. In my opinion, the 2 bucket method is outdated and inefficient. It's much more effective to have multiple wash media in a single bucket whether its wash mitts or wash towels. Discard them into an empty bucket so you're always starting with a perfectly clean mitt or towel. Clean them in your downtime.
3. 13:27. This is actually what gave me the motivation to stop watching the video on the couch and start writing this comment. I've spent so much of my time learning from my mistakes and from others when it comes to paint correction. Heat is not your friend. You DO NOT heat up the paint to cut faster. You're jeopardizing the integrity of the clear coat with excessive heat making it swell and drying out your compound/polishing cream faster.
If you need to cut fast, use a compound with a microfiber cutting pad. Use enough compound to lubricate the pad, but don't overly saturate it. A clean pad will always cut faster than a dirty residue loaded pad. A pad washer is a game changer. If this is STILL not enough, then you need to wet sand. At this point you really need to know what you're doing.
If you're just coming up into paint correction, it's really easy to get into the mindset of pulling out all the big guns and beating the paint into submission. Keep in mind, you're working on one of the most expensive pieces of the car and the clear coat is finite. The goal is to get good results while preserving as much as you possibly can.
Fantastic advice. You know your stuff. I did a double take on the heating the paint comment. In absolutely no reality is that true, and as you stated it's the opposite of what's needed to properly level a substrate.
Y'all should definitely put up more detailing content. Super fun to watch with a Donut twist!
I never was that fast on a video 😂😂
Me too 😂
Facts
Hoonigan has been showing off their cars getting detailed for the last month. I love that you guys are actually comparing different products and techniques. Your videos Give me the confidence to work on my car by myself, and make it so much easier to accept the failures.
Nolan is crushing the “I’m turning into a 40 year old man” transition.
i love the detailing episodes. this honestly taught me some things
I think it's hard to compare when multiple variables are being changed... What if you bought cheap cleaner but great brushes??
Another huge factor is price... The expensive stuff is obviously going to be better, but is it 5X better? Is it 25X better? The prices are just insanely higher
as with most things you want to be in the middle mothers's clay bar and quick detailer is 30 bucks and is more then enough for example. You could use meguarir's APC instead of a wheel cleaner if the wheels aren't cooked with brake dust which would be cheaper then wheel cleaners at $15~, Plenty of things to cut cost depending on the job needed to be done
My thoughts exactly. This test means nothing in the end. Too many variables
250 bucks?! 😂
@@hundredlives3910 We must also keep in mind that, the product selection within the price point can be just as important as the price point itself. Ceramic coatings usually give you at least a couple of years of protection, but I honestly don't expect the $10 coating to make it past 5 or 6 months. A 16 oz bottle of Seal n' Shine is $11 and is guaranteed to get me at least 6 months of protection. 16 FL OZ is a lot of product, so you can use it on multiple cars or just cap it up and use it a few months down the line. :)
The markup on ceramics is HUGE.
I can buy 50ML for like £23
A product performing similar from a major brand is £90-£150....
They are making great margins at £23 too...
Consider that.
Would love to see more detailing clips, nice to see as a customer what each product does with your demonstration models. Love these series!
More detailing content please! Really enjoyed the comparisons between products
I used the cheap stuff and surprisingly it was still going strong 2 years later when I sold the car. Occasional spray wax as a topper once a year. It was decent stuff for $20.
Yeah you don't need the expensive stuff if you just want your car to look nice and don't care about the little scratches and fine details. Plus if your selling a car and it's not like a ferrari or something, then you don't need the expensive stuff to bring up the value. Just need it to not look old, heck that's how ya fool people into buying a car with issues.
I used $20 foretoo ceramic coating on my wife's car. Outside 24/7. Was probably washed twice in 2 years. You can tell it's fading but it's still beads when it rains.
beads mean dirt and is not good @@rshinn8776
I used it on my motorcycle windshield, after 2 years it still beads and sheds water and resistant to dirt scratch from washing, best 10 bucks ever.
The reason you found it ‘strong’ was because you sprayed wax over it. Wax on top of ceramic is a huge no-no
So, if I get my 15yr old Miata, the cheap stuff is probably the way I want to go. Crazy how much difference the expensive stuff showed. When I get a newer car, getting PPE and some nicer stuff seems like the pretty clear way to go.
Love this content. Nolan did a great job explaining the benefits of ceramic coating. I would like the maintenance to be mentioned as a coating only last if it’s being maintained. Ppf has definitely taken over the protection part of detailing.
Love the comparison and detailing content. Keep it coming.
From a lot of things, mid to high expensive things tend to be the best. The most expensive might not be worth the cost I.E a rip off, and the cheap things have cut corners to get it cheap. So I'm curious how this will go!
I always buy middle-shelf when I don't know exactly what I'm getting myself into, because it's usually most likely to just work out of the box. The top of the line stuff is usually unforgiving of mistakes and takes a lot of setup, and the cheap stuff is just untrustworthy. Mid-tier doesn't usually have the bells and whistles to worry about, but it's still made well enough that you know it shouldn't break in normal use.
I would agree that as a rule of thumb, you can expect a mid-range product to work pretty well and offer some bang for the buck, but we should also place more emphasis on product selection within the price point. I don't know how long that $10 ceramic coating will last, but I don't expect it to last very long. However, a 16 oz bottle of Turtle Wax ICE Seal n' Shine will cost you $11 and is guaranteed to give you at least 6 months of protection. One bottle has enough product to use on several cars, or you can just tightly close the bottle and store it in a warm, dry place to use 6 months down the line when you reapply the product. :)
Yup. Upper end of the mid-range is usually the sweet spot. There are exceptions in both directions, but it's a good rule of thumb to hang out there or at least start there.
There is a point of diminishing returns on everything.
Also have to understand why it is high stuff to begin with. Unfortunately the high side is high (minus polisher and maybe ceramic coat) is due to marketing and not necessarily performance. Chemical guys has some gems, but they are mostly decent. Meguairs professional products (even the claybar) would have done a better job at a lower price to whatever they priced their CG and Jay Leno stuff.
Thanks guys
If it's in his wheel house, a vid with Jeremiah doing a deep dive as to why the $250 coating is better would be an interesting watch.
As a professional detailer i can tell you the $10 stuff would be about as effective as spray wax but much more labour intensive to apply.
You get what you pay for. Ive done tests and the cheap stuff ive tested, because the sales rep has said its as good, didnt even last 3 months whereas the (expensive) professional brand i use lasted 6 yrs in Aussie sun without being garaged
best video you guys made in a while, you guys always had an intrest to learn more about anything car related and i loved that about you. So keep learning and sharing whatever you may stumble upon so we may all learn more about the thing we love. Cars
I want Jimmy to be a regular member
As a detailer, a lot of those cheaper products can still get the job done to similar levels of the expensive stuff. That's where the detailers skill comes into place and what you're ultimately paying for.
Anyone can pick up a pad and polisher, but not everyone can get a 90% correction using the same tools. Also in the detailing industry, more expensive usually means less hassle but a lot of people tend to think more expensive = better product. It's all in the technique.
I would love more detailing episodes tbh.
Detailing is like getting a new paint job, 75%(or the majority, anyway) of the end product is how good the person doing the work is and how many hours they put into it.
Meh, no, anyone with a few years experience can achieve similar results if they use as many steps, as long as they don't over-do any step. I suppose that's a little bit where experience comes in, and going slower, just as anyone doing anything to an automobile, ought to work slower if they want the same results that a pro can do faster.
Remember, most of what was shown in the video was just a waste of time. It had bare spots where the clear coat was gone, so none of that really mattered, whole thing needed wet sanded and clearcoated before anything they did.
The detailers seem like cool dudes. The guy with the cross earring works well in front of the camera.
I loved this episode & can’t wait for more. Keep up the good work
Love the detailing content!
It's refreshing to see Nolan on the Hi end of things for a change.
If anyone is actually curious about the longevity of several ceramic coatings, go watch Scott HD’s channel. He’s tested literally hundreds of products and it’s extremely thorough.
Also, some of the best ceramic coatings on the market are right around $100, so $250 is wild to me!
Then you gotta recognize the blue bottle. Scott definitely got amazed by it.
@@240TechGuyI was commenting on the actual products they used, just providing a plug for people who may be interested in learning about how ceramics and other products compare.
Love detailing videos, great job guys!
Man these are great episodes. Love these challenges better than the 5k comparison comparison challenges. These two guys are awesome bros.
11:43 one thing I discovered when shopping for sharpening stones is that the higher priced ones are more likely to be that level of grit throughout the stone, vs cheaper ones which may have more varied grit. Like many pieces of 100 grit in an 800 grit stone... gonnna mess stuff up. Probably similar for clay bars
Not at all similar for clay bars. The consistency is fairly regular even on a cheap one, but what it is made of to reach that uniform consistency can vary. However the clay bar portion wasn't much different to begin with, might even be attributed to the muck flying up onto the right side of the hood more just as it affected the right/passenger wheel more, because that's the direction of runoff on roads, the ride side of the lane is dirtier than the left.
@@stinkycheese804 fair enough
As a detailer, One80 Details, I love this video. Yes PPF is the way to go but for a normal person/everyday car, ceramic makes sense.(especially in AZ) One of my favorite Donut videos! Cheers to the Donut squad!
What I have for my car? PPF high wear spots. So full hood and front fenders forward plus door jams, then roof.
Then ceramic coat on the whole thing.
@russelljacob7955 awesome and necessary when you care about your ride.. what is your car?
89 Civic@@stefanb18
@@stefanb18 Is a Camry TRD. A 2021 with the Ice Edge color. So it has the black with blue metallic roof. It literally went straight from show room to detailer.
Getting PPF on the roof was extremely good value. No way it would have stayed nice.
Edit: Fixed a typo. Said dealership, not detailer.
Yes for more Donut detailing videos
More detailing videos!! Love it!
I’ve used the plumbers putty. It works just a little messy because it so soft. I recommend putting it in the fridge for a few hours and maybe clay bar in cooler weather as it helps keep it harder.
For the few dollars difference? Clay bar saves itself just in time imo though.
@@russelljacob7955 100% theres no reason to use plumbers putty lol
@@russelljacob7955 Not if you thought you had clay bar but looked in your cabinet and there is none, and just want to get the job done already. Lesson there is same as always, assemble all materials before starting a project, including buying the clay bar in bulk to get better pricing.
Always a good day when Justin is in a video 😤
Yes more detailing please it’s fun and enjoyable to watch you guys either fail and/or win!
Definitely more detailing content !!!!!!
Just a quick tip 😅
Clay bars are more aggressive but also more likely to mar the paint.
Whereas a synthetic clay mit is considerably less likely to mar and need a polish but the catch is that it's not as aggressive.
Also you can chemically decontaminate prior to physical decon.
My 2 cents nobody asks for 😂
Important info tho
im surprised they didnt do iron removal
@@jaskajokunen3716they were supposed to do a tar and iron remover on paint
Umm, that vehicle was going to need a polish no matter which they used. If your clay bar is dragging too much, try more lube.
Anyone notice the Sterrato in the background?!
Awesome, I'm been looking into doing this to my new car but have been stymied by this issue exactly. Thank you
Yes to all the in depth detailing content 👏 👏
After the clay bar you could notice a big difference between the pros and donut when they touched it with the front of their hands vs the back of their hands.
I noticed that too
And I wonder, how the ceramic products would work, if they used the same clay and polishing method, because this was not the comparison between the 2 ceramic coatings, but it's a high and low comparison . I think the difference is that the low budget product is starting with a strong handicap. But good to see that the difference on an old car is not that big, and you can really DIY.
As a proffesional detailer myself, the only thing that more exspensive cleaning products grant you is time on the exterior. Now as for the interior it is overall better to use exspensive for the inside, alot of APCs will stain plastics and seats so dillute appropriatley. Dont use armorall on the interior. Always use clean pads/microfober mits and compressed air is always your friend on the interior!
Dont use ArmorAll? *Looks in my cupboard full of Armorall products*
Shit.
What brands would you recommend that are still on the affordable side?
@@_ZekkenI’d recommend Meguiers, Griot’s, and Turtle Wax if you’re looking for some cheap but fairly well performing detailing products.
So called detailers who say not to use Armor All only say that to try to fit in with the so called cool crowd. In reality there’s nothing wrong with Armor All products.
Also APC doesn’t stain interior unless you seriously don’t know what you’re doing.
@@Samuelfish2k Armor All is scraping the bottom of the barrel levels of detailing products. Nothing wrong with using it, sure, but for a similar price, you can do so much better.
Not saying you should go out there and buy several hundreds worth of Gyeon, Koch Chemie, and Adam’s products. But brands like Meguiars, Griots, and Turtle Wax have gone a long way in making their products competitive with the pros.
@@deltahorizon26 The only and seriously the only thing negative about Armor All products is that they’re sold in consumer sized bottles. As far as the product inside the bottles, there’s little to no difference between Armor All and whatever brand people regard as “better”
For example: Armor All Tire Gel is a water based dressing. That product has been around since at least 1997. I know for a fact because I used to use that tire gel on my 1st car.
And for all the crappy solvent based tire shines that have come along since, what does the smart professional detailer use? A water based tire dressing, right? Well guess what, Armor All Tire Gel has been exactly that since at least 1997 and many years before, yet everyone loves to talk shit about “Armor All” as if it’s slimy silicone crap product when the truth is they’ve been selling the right kind of tire gel while every other brand has offered garbage tire shines. They’ve offered that same solid product and it’s still sold today 30+ years later.
Where tf was Gyeon & Carpro and all these other brands 30 years ago? They hadn’t even started trying to copy Armor All’s products yet.
Armor All makes more money per year on just their protectant than Carpro makes on ALL their entire product line. You think Armor All doesn’t have some of the best chemists working for them?
Some of the popular belief is completely wrong.
Btw I’ve been a professional detailer for the past 10yrs. I’ve got my shelves full of Meguiars gallons etc. lots of products from all the brands. But as far as calling Armor All crap? I’m not saying they’re the best or anything, but there’s far worse products and some of their stuff has been innovative and impressive over the years.
Right on time for this video, since I opened my own detailing place a few days ago xD
Wonderful pro detailers here!
I like the idea about this video. 1 recommendation for the future is that when a product or process wins, complete that on the whole project so that you remove the variable of prior processes impacting your future tests.
*Me watching without a good product or experience
How long did it take to do just the front corner of this car?
Washing, clay, and cut/polish usually takes me about 7 hours for a whole car
@@kileawesome damn that's a whole day activity
@@jamessizemore7103 yeah that’s why bigger detail companies have multiple people working on a car
@@jamessizemore7103 the way I see it. I’d rather spend 7 hours detailing my car then spending 600 to pay a pro. I don’t make 80 bucks an hour lol
Really enjoyed this! It was cool to see how well the pros did even handicapped. I occasionally watch detailing content over on Detail Geek and it's fun to see these kinds of crossovers!
Definitely love these detail vids 👍
Gotta get jimmy more screen time he’s funny AF.
I guess I finally see why detailing costs so much 😂
I love detailing. Definitely do more videos on it
Always a great day when donut posts
Day 418 of asking James to do an Up to Speed on his Dad
Carrying on PaganiGaming’s legacy
The torch has been passed on 🙌🏼
Never gonna happen.
It says in their description that they DO NOT TAKE VIDEO IDEA PITCHES.
@@PaganiGamingyea because people dislike you so much they're nuking your channel 😂
@@5Ci0Nstrange that anyone actually gives a shit at all. Says more about you guys than @pagani gaming
@@UpperDarbyDetailingI don't see how harassing someone about their late dad is cool.
He died of a heart attack. Leave it be. Something like that can be extremely personal to someone.
I'm sorry, but the level of scientific inquiry is really low with these comparisons. They have been for years (with a couple of exceptions). You actually said, "The free-ish two bucket method and the $5,000 power washer system have the same results, but obviously we're giving it to the $5,000 washer." Ummm...if you're only talking about quality of the product itself....then sure. It will be the better, more expensive product every time. In that case, what are you testing? Are you suggesting I should get the $5,000 pressure washer for my home because it's cooler despite the results being negligible per your own testing?
It's just a bit frustrating since this could be a lot better with minimal effort. I mean, the whole premise of having two compounding variables doesn't really make sense either. You paired professionals with bad products and novices with good products. Neither of those scenarios typically exist in the wild. I again ask "What are you testing? What's the point of the video?" Just find a variable and test it. Get a professional to try both products and tell us what he/she thinks. Done. That would be much more useful. "I think with towels, you can go with something cheaper because....". That's more useful than "You should be a $5,000 pressure washer for your home because it makes things a bit easier."
This was a fun episode. Love car wash products and gear
love the detailing episodes
When is the Up to Speed on James’ dad going to happen?
Dislikes go a long way
This is so satisfying to watch. Love it.
Mad props to the pros! They were really cool while getting all of the junk product and hard work!! Cool guys!
Up To Speed on James' dad needs to happen ASAP!
Dislikes go a long way
The fact that Ive been watching way too many car detailing vids to the point where it’s taken over my entire recommended feed, and then you guys just happened to drop this video now is just pleasantly funny
This is good content guys would love to see u test more products with pros in future
FINALLY. You guys put this one off for a while. I always wish the cars were getting detailed
The animation your editors threw in with the dial rotating to each phase looks exactly like a self serve car wash dial, NICE touch!
Great video, bro was very knowledgeable honest & amazing at what he does great person too bring on & you boys killed it
Love these episodes!
Okay so 2 things: 1- Justin, you've come so far! HUGE difference in the way you host these videos compared to a year ago! Kudos to you! 2- This was an excellent video. As a guy that is really into keeping my vehicules ultra clean, I gotta say this gave me a great idea of where I should pay more for my products Vs pay less and just take my time.
Yes on the detail content
Man I love that you brought pros for this, great idea! Loved the vid!
Car detailers are the unsung heroes of the dealer world.. they go so under appreciated.. ❤
For 99% of people Turtle wax hybrid solutions, Griots 3in1, meguiars etc is all you need to add a strong yet extremely cheap 6 month to a year ceramic coating to your car. All you need is two buckets, a packet of microfiber towels from Costco, car soap, iron remover, ceramic spray, interior cleaner, and most importantly elbow grease. If you have a new car or a car that still has good paint stay away from automatic or diy car washes, the brushes will absolutely swirl and scratch your paint.
OMG, your conclusion of "so no one wins today" was hilarious!! 🤣
I used to work for Chemical Guys and it was so cool seeing their products put to use
Wow, this new hi low with a twist is an awesome concept, more plz 🤙
Yes, we love detailing content!
These detailers deserve the detail part of the word
Good technique, good explanations etc
Vidoes likes these just hit different 🤤
The most important part about detailing is prep. it's like painting if you start good you're gonna end good. Make a mistake with prep or early on and it's gonna show at the end. The reason you pay a pro is for their time, detailing, paint and body is one of those more artistic things and unless you know what you're doing it's gonna show at the end.
Yes more detailing content. I wanna get the black on my truck to be really nice and I would love to see you guys explain how I should do it. I only trust donut content lol
Those pro detailers were cool, I'm glad y'all are giving them a cool way at maybe getting them more business. Id have them clean my car
yes go for more detailing!!!
More Detailer content ❤ love to see off-road detailing techniques
Imagine a detail competition like that cook off show where people pay for challenges for the other person like; one person's water hose is replaced with a water bottle, or switching out someone's shammy for paper towels to dry their car lol
a refreshed auto detailing video? it's been so long 👏
Looks like their shop is single handedly keeping Obsessed Garage afloat
😂
I like the detail stuff I’d like to see y’all build a best bang vs quality for the bucks kit for the do it yourself driveway detail
Didn't know about your channel until i saw you in The Crew Motorfest, man you made me laugh so much 😂
Damn what we wanted! Please more Detailing stuff! I'm tired of detailg on yt
I like some detail content sprinkled in here and there
17:02
DAMN!!
That E30 in the back looks fireee!!
And now I’m ready for Detailing Fails on Real Mechanic Stuff channel. 😂😂
That was pretty, love detailing content!
For the wheel challenge, the pros should’ve used the expensive wheel cleaner after too to see if anything more came off with the better product. Would maybe even it out