i once took my engine to the automechanic shop because it would not start. They were for some reason really confused why i bothered taking out the engine when i could just have brought the entire car. But i told them that if their TV breaks, they dont bring their entire house to the TV repair man now do they?
@Underskore smashing it in there is basically mashed potatoes. It couldn't possibly touch every prong perfectly so no form of potato would practically work reliably to actually use
If they held it in there it may have depending on how its set up. Its the making a connection bit that counts so a probe and piece of wire will work. EDIT - 18:40 yeah like that...
I think it could have worked if the male end was attached to the car, and the female was the fob. Instead of the potato going into the holes, the prongs would be shoved into the potato.
As someone with a car in which you can push the driver side window down with your hands (and no interest in fixing it), this video was still a fun watch.
Its not a big deal for them for the effort as its like gambling u lose at one table you just move to another, you dont bother about the effort you put on that game or the past life choices that led you up to the table you would lose on. You just move on
proof even if a kill switch isn't perfect, it still usually works. your car doesn't have to be impossible to steal, it has to just be so inconvenient that a thief gives up and tries somewhere else
Best solutions are for Anti-Theft is: Add a immobilizer / hidden kill switch. And for tracking: Buy a cheap smartphone, buy the cheapest 5g internet plan, add a tracker app to the phone, hide it under a panels with a permanent charger attached to it. The tracking should last until the car battery drains + 5~10days from the phone battery in standby mode. A alternative is hide a apple airtag on the car. Its not as precise as a smartphone with GPS but last ~1 year before you have to change the battery. You can also use both options for redundancy.
@@evanalden2117 Its a small possibility but would still take years for the battery to degrade to that point. It will start bulging way before catching on fire. And if the battery reached the point of bulging it already lost most of its original capacity with severely reduces the risk of fire since the risk of it catching on fire is directly corelated with how much charge it has left. Possible solutions are: There are apps and dongles that you can use to control how your phone is charged. Or added a timer that only let the charger run for a few hours each day.
If there is ever a part 2, we need Lock Picking Lawyer on it! I'd love to see what vulnerabilities he would find. Richard still did great as he noted the weak points actual thieves would attack. Lock Picking Lawyer will show us how unsecure these products really are. I have a feeling that the lock cylinders on most of these products can be raked or bumped.
Meanwhile McNally: this is a 2003 honda civic, you can start it with a 2003 honda civic. * proceeds to crash one car into the other in order to bump start it *
From my experience a simple hidden switch that you have to click before starting works amazing. Hide it in reach of the driver seat but not in eye sight. Say under the seat or in the ceiling of a pocket cubby in the dash. IMO momentary switch work best that you hold when starting as a toggle you have to remember to toggle off when you leave the car. For tracking we always used apple airtags but remove the speaker first. Worst case the thief gets a notice on their iphone "AirTag found moving with you" but they wont be able to make it beep so they cant find it to remove it without spending hours. Hiding it well is important, I say hide it under the carpet or epoxy it somewhere under the car and paint it so you cant tell.
I dont think thieves use iPhone, they probably need to incognito their phone, or use some open source hacking tool so chances are dedicated thieves use androids. but sometimes people who arent thieves, presented with an opportunity, probably didnt think much and commit theft does exist
What I like about The Club style devices is they fulfill the idea that: 'Your car doesn't have to be IMPOSSIBLE to steal, just HARDER to steal than the OTHER GUY'S car.' (And the club fufills that because it can be seen by potential thieves.) Just like how a thief will walk around trying door handles until they find an unlocked car, and THAT is the one that'll get ransacked (or slept/pissed in, etc).
Yeah, this. It’s functionally impossible to create an unstealable car, and the vast majority of car thieves are opportunistic, so you really only need to make it more trouble than it’s worth to them.
@@ZackC BINGO! It's all a cost/benifit analysis- If stealing something (say, a car) has an opportunity cost that exceeds the value of doing so, that object will cease to have strategic/tactical value, and won't be attacked- when another, profitable option (such as, one's next door neighbor?) exists. Writ large, this is broadly the state of affairs in modern conflicts, which is MAD, etc.)
How do you stop thieves from rolling your car away? I mean they bust the window, and simply use force to break the shifter and steering column . They put it in neutral and push it away. It is common practice here in Detroit (unfortunately) With these SMART keys, most cars cannot be started without it.
Works well. Even against my friends who I tell them where it is. Don't have locks or a working locking cylinder, took it to the east side of Cleveland and it was never stolen unfortunately
Massive liability if it fails and causes an accident. Opens tons of latitude for an investigator to blame the connections (in cold weather especially) and switch itself. Great concept though- maybe copy the type of connections used by those breathalyzer interlock companies, and you'd maybe be ok.
The ol' school method is a few kill-switches. My uncle has an old Ford pickup that they built into a rock crawler. The kill-switches prevented it from being stolen a long time ago. I know there are 3 on the truck. 2 are accessible by the driver or passenger, and 1 is accessible outside in case of emergency. It also has a weird ignition system so the thieves just stole his radio and his emergency gear from behind his seat. Good ol' truck. My uncle still has the ol' beast. It doesn't run anymore; but it is a cool yard ornament.
The simplest way to defeat those pedal to wheel locks is simply to stamp on the pedal and bend the steering wheel. You don't even need tools. The real advantage to any of these devices is as a deterrent - if your car is slightly harder to steal than the one next to it, it's way less likely to get stolen. One good idea I've used, especially on older cars, is to run the ignition wire through a separate switch, like a foglight switch or something on the dashboard. Without hitting that switch, the ignition won't activate.
What most car enthusiasts do is route the battery cable somewhere in the car and stick an isolator key in somewhere. Even if someone steals the keys if they don’t know where the isolator key is or where it goes, they’re not going anywhere. I’ve already had that system tested when my house was broken into. The thieves managed to find the main keys and the isolator key but couldn’t figure out where that key went and they gave up on that.
Just get a progression ignition distributor and you shut off the ability to start the car with app on your phone. Unless they steal your phone and can unlock it and password for the app then they can never start car.
When I lived in California in 2008 and car thefts went up, my father heard a story about Ravelco and had it installed on all three of our cars. The way it is installed ties it into all of the electronics of the engine, and they tape over it. Unless you know the wires used, it is really difficult to remove. They wrap all the wires together to make it even more difficult.
And to add to that, I don’t think the Revelco keys are unique. So if I’m a professional thief, I’d just buy one myself, and add the key to my kit of gear. I also think it’s likely people just forget to remove the Revelco key quite often. Unless, they made it so you can’t turn the engine off until you first remove the Revelco key…
exactly, get a tiny pushbutton toggle switch and wire it inline to the ignition system somewhere under the wheel. Assuming the goal here is to defeat a thief who stole your key at least.
@@Connie_cpu Sure, that is secure against a skillful attack- it would be a total FLUKE if the elecreonics were hacked, huh? (Actually, any car that is even slightly more secure than the next car,... it's probably done it's job. Thieves are generally lazy, and seeing even a Club is probably enough to make them go and steal the car next door, instead of your's, eh. (It's passive security (vs blaring sirens, 911 calls, etc).. Problem solved! (Maybe.)
That seems the best and also cheapest. But with a little fumbling around there's a chance a thief could find it. Depending on how good it is hidden. My sisters car has a hidden kill switch. But the switch is magnetic and hidden in the door sill infront of the drivers seat where it's easy to reach. There is no visual indication that there's anything there. She carries a small magnet in her armrest. You have to touch the magnet to the very specific spot against the door sill. Even if I show people how to start it, most of them cant find the specific spot. So no way a thief would even know to look for something like this. And the wires are hidden so well, I can't even tell what and where it is spliced into. All aftermarket.
I have 2 in one of my cars one cuts power to the starter solenoid, that's under the dash, the other cuts power to accessory 2/ run pos, car won't start unless both are on, but you can flick the starter cutout off while running, can't restart the car without turning it back on
You have the best theft deterrent walking around behind you. We kind need a spotlight of the dogs of Donut. It would be nice to be up to speed on the crew’s pet life!
2G dosent work anymore AT&T discontinued service on that network in 2017, while Verizon shuttered its 2G network around 2020. T-Mobile said earlier this year it would turn off its 2G GSM network on April 2, 2024.
Same in some countries of EU, maybe all, 2G is now only for police/fire etc. departments. I had to buy even a new wireless set for my guitar because the old one became illegal.
@@DATAN420 depends on intention, like driving laws could be said to be safe but thats true or not depending on state. also driving fast is not safe but people like driving fast, so its not like people are right either
One of the things I actually like about RUclips car advertisements is that their short enough (and specifically in donuts case, well made and enjoyable enough) but long enough to actually go over the details of the cars rather than just throwing words up on a screen or having someone famous drive in it with no emotion. It’s such a boring concept, but to allow RUclipsrs to advertise their cars, they have creative people, who aren’t afraid to rip a car apart, attest to what they like most. I’m glad some companies are smart enough to work with creators; and they better be paying well lol
I'm mad because I basically diy'd a wilderness in mods the model year before it existed (added in a transmission cooler on the sport model and put some steel skid plates all under it from primitive). If I could have waited a bit longer I'd have that camera and anti glare =/. Also would have saved a bunch of time lol
I think you're getting this a bit muddled. They gave Donut a load of money and a script to read from. That's it. If you want an impartial review, probably best to avoid sponsored ads.
If you have a hot car, hidden kill switch is your friend. Especially if it's something like steering wheel button combinations. If you are going away for extended periods you should take your battery out, or pull an engine bay fuse.
I have an air tag I put in the frame of my truck (even if I told you good luck getting it out). I also have seen kill switches that are so funny like one guy installed on the bottom of a cup holder (he would also have a hydro in his car) so when he put the hydro in the cup holder it completed the circuit. I’ve seen other funny ones like they put a normally open button on glovebox latch…essentially you had to open the glovebox to start the vehicle but after starting you can close it. It's the really stupid ones like that that work. You can also do it through your ac controls, fog light switches, even wind shield wipers…just be creative with it. personally my truck is stick and the gas cap locks so im not too worried
@@higihups I have a method to get it out pretty easy but would be a pain unless you know how it’s installed. I’ve basically rebuilt my truck over the last year so I know all the ins and outs
I have 3 AirTags inside my car 😂 One under the passenger floor mat, One glued to the spare tire, last one in the glove box (easy to find on purpose/bait 😂)
The heavy duty clutch pedal lock is not primarily designed for theft. A 988 loader requires a semi truck to move. It’s designed to keep people from joy riding or messing with equipment. I’ve seen people do lots of damage by joy riding in a loader.
When I was moving across the country with everything I own in one U-Haul, I just took a photo of the fuse box and removed every fuse. Temporary sabotage is the only way. My biggest fear by that point was a tow-away theft. You kind of need to chain the front and rear axel together, if not chain it to a solid object or ground anchor. Using Abus’ thickest chain and insurance lock.
Thats basically what i do with my car, just pull the ECU fuse in the engine bay. I have a club as well for visual spur of the moment thieves, and then the fuse if they get past that.
Who the hell is going to steal your useless shit? If it's in a UHAUL, 99.9% of the time it's worthless old shit, nobody wants. Why would a thief with any actual capabilities steal that worthless shit over something like a semi-trailer full of new product, or a Fedex/UPS/Amazon truck? Or literally anything else other than your broken in couch full of beer farts, a cum stained mattress, and some shart filled underwear?
You can just put a U lock through a wheel where it will jam on the brake caliper if the wheel turns. That's what I do with my motorcycle. Another bike was stolen from my apartment carports, but not mine. Mine is a pain in the ass to steal.
@@aluisious You can cut through that in less than 30 seconds...I'm glad you've been lucky so far. But if you try that in a high theft environment with pros around, your ride would be gone if they want it.
One anti theft device that comes to mind comes from the made for TV movie The Dukes of Hazzard: Hazzard in Hollywood where Bo Duke uses a potato sack filled with rattlesnakes as anti-theft device. LOL. Another anti-theft device from the movies is the "Detroit Jock strap" from the 3rd Naked Gun movie and high voltage device from the 2nd Robocop movie called "Magnavolt".
Yeah, I was really disappointed that they didn't bother using basic intelligence to make it even slightly difficult. Not sure if the rear side of the lock cylinder is any more resistant but even a fool could JB weld a chunk of conically-shaped steel to it and make it extremely difficult to even get the drill on it without instantly slipping. With that, it wouldn't even be feasible to drill anymore, and a sufficient cutting implement is now required which a prospective thief may not have on hand.
I used to use the club and then one day the lock jammed and I couldn't get it off. I struggled with it until the lock fell apart and the pins fell out and I could take it off.
I used three Club on my ‘68 Chevelle back in the day. The thief bent the sh** out of my steering wheel, but didn’t get it off. I also had a Viper alarm on it, and the thief tore my wiring all up. At least they couldn’t steal my car.
@@aumua2876 Probably not in socal.... now in most other areas of the US yeah but unless they can see it there's no PC so they'd have to try getting a warrant
@@aumua2876 Not here. A guy had a tracker and told the police where it was. They refused to come out until the next day and the car was in a rail car. Officer said he doesn't have the power to search the rail car. The train was later moved through two other police jursidictions and each refused to check it out. Stolen cars are not a priority.
@@RatKindlerThey defo are not a priority. Had one stolen two years back. Had everything I needed to show it was my car. They still never tried. Starting ghosting me whenever I inquired about it. I'm 100% certain its either scrap or somewhere in Mexico now.
They used to sell a battery with a key fob to turn it on/off. Of course you lose any car alarm, plus all your radio presets, and whatever else the car needs. You’d need to put a different battery in to start/steal the car, assuming you knew it was a “trick” battery. Otherwise, a kill switch works well. Shout out to Cobb - back in 2004 their newly released AccessPort tuner had an anti-theft feature. You could park it with a real time map that allowed the car to start but it would die at over 1k rpm, so you couldn’t drive it. You could still tow it away. There was a bypass for that, but then Suby owners figured a defeat for the bypass - so you could essentially just lock out your ecu and you’d need to swap the ecu in order to start the car. Cobb also had a valet mode that limited rpm and boost. Just be sure to take the AccessPort with you when you park, and not hide it under the seat or in the trunk - you lazy lazy owners! Hahaha
Back when I lived in a high car theft area of Arizona, I just installed a $3 toggle switch that cut out the connection between the ignition coil and the distributor. It stopped at least 2 attempted thefts of the vehicle. (I installed it in the first place because the car had been stolen twice before, then it was gifted to me)
I've always heard that "the opportunity makes the thief", meaning most crimes or theft is not pre-planned, they simply take advantage of an opportunity. Most won't be walking around with bolt cutters or power saws.
I think you have misinterpreted. Crimes of opportunity are exactly that but there are still individuals and groups who make a living from theft, often specialising in things like motor theft, home burglary or even specific businesses such as farm and construction equipment which is expensive enough to ship to the other side of the world.
@@chrishughes3405 Sure, but mostly what I meant by that is I wish they'd brought up the point of even IF the wheel lock products are easy to remove if you'd really want to they're definitely enough of a deterrent to stop "opportunity thief".
People don't opportunistically take a car in the heat of the moment. The type of thief you're describing is the guy who smashes your window because you left your wallet in the cupholder.
The Disklok works on many other vehicles with a lower roofline / windshield angle. Would love to see you guys redo this and try to bypass this instead of just discrediting it. I doubt you can get a drill to drill the lock at a good angle if the center console is in the way, nor cutting apart the steerlng wheel would be any easier.
Yeah was quite disappointed they just didnt try. All they were doing was spinning the disk and not turning the steering wheel, and im pretty sure if you fit it right and adjust the tightness you can turn it all even less.
Certainly not a fair assessment considering I have one and I’m using it in a mk7 golf. The lock hits the window and my legs if I try to drive it and overall is an absolute nightmare.. Test it properly
That 70mai is a dashcam, and it's actually a pretty good one I've been using for 6 months. Not sure who sold it as a rear facing camera especially considering it has collision detection listed as one of the features where it saves the current video clip in an accident folder automatically
I've removed plug wires when parking my old Hondas- of course, then I have to try and remember how they route to drive off. However, my new product, Seat Lethal, combines a car alarm and lethality because who doesn't love a dead body in the car. Seat Lethal uses a CO2 cartridge that when triggered, sends a stainless spike upwards thru the seat, impaling the car thief. Mind you, now I don't want to drive my car over bumps....I'm still working on it :)
What i learned as a volunteer firefighter is that it is way faster to just cut the steering wheel with a sawzall or similar cutting tool right by the steering wheel hook on the club and force it through the cut than messing with anything like trying to drill out the lock etc..
Something that I didn't see them touch on about the Revelco car immobilizer that really should have been mentioned is that these plugs have over 100,000 combinations. This means that any other plug, or a dummy plug, will most likely fry something before it actually allows a thief to get away with the car. The plugs that comes with the one installed for your vehicle have a 1 in 100,000 chance of being replicated in another vehicle which makes this a fairly strong deterrent over all. Save for a thief just cutting it off and rewiring all the leads together to steal your car, it isn't a bad option I'd say. Personally, I'd still have a hidden dummy switch as well just to have two steps all the same.
@@seanmiller9448 as said, there is a 1 in 100,000 chance of another vehicle having the same wire configuration as the cap you would get. If everyone in the US got one, only 3300 people would have the same cap as you.
Disklok works on smaller vehicles where the arm hits the screen or dashboard. The lock spins if you try to drill it and you can't cut the steering wheel. Test it again on am appropriate vehicle!
Yep, it's a good deterant. Spins on the steering wheel until the arm hits the screen or dash. It's also very visible before someone even breaks the glass to enter the vehicle. Didn't see them actually drive the vehicle with the disc on.
Would be interested in seeing more high-tech stuff. That actual car people would use. Like the Cobb anti-theft mode that changes fuel maps on the car. Or a hidden kill switch wired to the fuel pump.
Having a manual car with a quick release wheel and taking the steering wheel with you would honestly do a lot to prevent theft. Plus these are things that you already want for your car in the first place lol
The ECU keylogger killswitches for more modern cars are pretty neat. You set a combination of any of the buttons in your car that go through your ecu... so audio controls, windows, any headlights, wipers etc... and your car wont start unless you run that combination
@@dtemp132 And the state is a wreck. You might have some hold outs in the more rural corners but for most of the populated areas the story is the same out of control crime.
@@dtemp132 if someone mentions California 99% of times it will be either LA or SF or any surrounding vanity areas. And well, crime being rampant is an understatement outside of the super high class gated communities
Absolutely true. In the same train of thought any deterrent is better than none at all. Even a cheap sticker stating the car is actively tracked may move the random thief from your car to another one.
If I was ever parked somewhere I was honestly worried about leaving my car overnight I would just take my fuel pump relay out and put it in my pocket lol
Funnily enough, we "tested" fuel pump relays by using jumpers in the socket; if the pump ran, we'd replace the relay. Gonna guess it's a 30-second operation.
The Ravelco costs $700 for a device I could do for $40 in 45 minutes that would be completely hidden I'd probably splice into the wiring harness that opens and closes the fuel pump relay with the switch engaged the engine can't receive fuel and won't start.
One thing you can do that is absolutely free although it is mainly for older cars is disconnecting the battery and switching around at least two distributor cables
I get that steering wheel looks, especially on the budget friendly end, are not a full solution; but the added time and tools an opportunist might need can make all the difference. Last year my Kia was attempted on. The would be thieves smashed the darkly tinted window just to find The Club on the steering wheel. Upon seeing that I guess they didn’t have the skill, tools, or time to steal it. They rummaged through my glove box real quick and took off. When I reviewed the tapes from security, it was really just a group of teenagers, they didn’t have a Sawsall or power drill. It did suck to deal with the headache of having my window replaced, but my car survived.
Probably some of the Kia Boys looking for a joyride. If your windows weren't blacked out, they may not have even smashed it as they would have been able to see the Club.
My fiancées soul was attempted to be taken back in December, they broke the window and ripped the bottom column shroud off but got spooked by a white suv that drive by. They pulled up in another soul too. Same deal, stupid unequipped teens.
@@bwofficial1776 That’s exactly what I think. But the face remains that the club prevented them from taking my car, despite the damage. CAT thieves have learned to carry Sawsalls with them everywhere they go; until more car thieves decide to carry power tools with them, the club is a solid piece of deterrent.
The Lock Picking Lawyer also previously covered Equipment Lock Co's products. They can be good but you want one that comes with an actual keyed lock and not a combination lock as combo locks are much easier to bypass.
Not saying it would have worked, but the idea with the potato is that you have to hold it in place. The idea is it’s making contact with all the connections at once and using the part of the potato that isn’t jammed in the holes as a conductor of the signal.
Although I can understand the concept I have tried it on my own Ravelco system. Just out of curiosity, but my system is wired to multiple different parts of the vehicle. And it most definitely didn’t work and blew a few fuses. If you have a good installer it simply will not work. My installer even if you find the right jumper for one you have a few more to go and it takes days. Thieves have tried on mine multiple timessss
I think with a test light its doable, start with key off, check all for 12, key on recheck, 1 at a time work wipers, headlights etc. Then after seeing what all see 12, just jump them to any hole that never shows 12. From what I understand, its just a break in the circuit and any one of the non 12v wires is just a path to ground. I should include that once you find 12, you're going to have to then send it down 1 at a time down each hole to see whats what.@@foreverhockey7248
The ideal aftermarket car tracking device would be an Apple AirTag but which can be kept fully charged with wireless charging, then you just need any old cheap wireless charger wired in to the system to keep it working.
It has to be in the vicinity of an iphone to ping a location, plus if it’s following someone long enough their iphone will tell them there’s one there. It’s something but if they’re away from any phone it won’t send a location.
@@KirbyLouis Yeah but good luck with achieving that given how easy most of these anti-theft devices are to defeat, and how expensive the good ones tend to be. You could just take the fuel system relay out when you park the car for free, but these are not meant to be removed and replaced hundreds of times. I personally would prefer to add a few cheap things that make it annoying to steal, then have a way to track it after it's stolen so I can steal it back.
@@theredscourge fuel pump kill switch(not expensive in any sense) or the revelco option(not expensive in relation to losing/buying a new car... 7-900$ is a bargain)
Some of the best security you can have, is driving a cheap dependable car without dark tinted windows, and not leaving ANY personal items laying around in the cabin.
The best car security story I've heard happened when I was at uni. I had my own car broken into and they were also targeting a group of independent businesses (mechanics, body shops, auto electricians etc) The local business owners were sick of customers cars being broken into and decided to do something about it. They parked one of their vans with a mobile phone clearly visible and waited for the inevitable. Unbeknown to the thief there were 5 men in the back of the van. After a little chat and drive into the country no cars were broken into again.
Can't belive the number of these I'm seeing on new cars these days, it's like manufacturers forgot how to make a secure car. It's like the 70's and 80's over again.
Dangit...beat me lol. Yeah, no young punk today stealing cars gonna get past manual here in the US with only 1,34% of all cars on US roads being stick shift. 😂
@@sinabetterday In the US?...Dang, I call that determination lol...I've had people try when I lived in WI...Got em on CCTV watching tutorial on how to drive stick shift and they still failed to steal my car. ^.^
One thing you missed here is the way you put the club on was amateur hour. You put the club on backwards so the lock is facing towards the cluster. This makes it an absolute bitch to drill out. In some cars it just is not possible to do because it is too tight. I'm shocked I don't see more people put the clubs this way, it seems the way it is intended to work.
@@PhillipBicknellNah - by installing it where you have to use the key on the other side, you're also supposed to lock it a certain way on the steering wheel where the rod interferes with the door, and the steering is compromised
I'd have liked to see them actually try to defeat the Disklock, rather than go "but this van gives me loads of space to go around it" and call it broken.
Don’t they sell devices that program a pin into your car screen so if you do not have the pin the car simply cannot run. Are those useful? I like that idea . Some also keep your car in a mode where it can’t drive fast . Also, can’t the wheel lock just be sawed through?
Pull the fuel pump fuse from under the hood if your in that bad of a situation. I bet the thief would move on to the next car because they won't get it running
This was by far the best anti-theft or not video Donut has done! I would love to see other anti-theft specialists appear with their designs and whatever else you find and see who does the best!
Just imagine owning a company that sells anti-theft devices, going on a RUclips channel to demonstrate them, and watch them get demolished in seconds 😂😂😂
My husbands truck was just stolen, so we now plan to get the Ravelco. We are also gonna add the club just for visual theft protect and possibly be skipped over due to difficulty of stealing. I was also wanting to add the tevlaphee wheel lock for even EXTRA protection. I was curious what ur review on that would be. Obv the lock is the weak point but does it at least make it a tad more difficult?
That 70Mai M300 is the same dash cam I use! I've tried several that cost up to $100 but that one works the best, and has the clearest picture in the videos
Exactly. I have the one they tested for 3 years now, and it's not an in cabin camera like they thought, it's a standard Dash Cam and a fantastic one for the price.
@@RustyRenesis It's the only one I've used in that price range where you can clearly make out license plates and faces in the videos, the resolution is fantastic. Also easy to download videos directly to your phone, and they download in a playable file format without requiring other software to convert. I have a 128gb Samsung card in there and it holds roughly 1200 minutes of footage, organized by date and time. It overwrites the last video in the list to make the new one without any issues, never stops recording when the car is on. They also sell a kit where you can hard wire it to enable a bump sensor for when it's parked. I drive for a living, a good dash cam is crucial.
@@rw9495I myself use a 64GB Endurance SD card specially because my older SanDisk Ultra 64GB died prematurely. But yeah, i've loved it so far. Nothing but good things to say about them.
it will still alert iPhone users of an airtag nearby. and it only works if thieves have an iPhone. id suspect that most have burner androids from walmart
@@untouchedforce6388 if you hide it within the car they would have to rip the entire thing apart to get to it, hiding it deep under the dash with an inconspicuous case will make it look mostly factory. Hard to identify, and having an update every 10-30 minutes. I don't know if someone wants to spend the 30+ minutes it takes to disassemble the entire dash to get to it
@@untouchedforce6388 Hiding it under the dash that required a lot of work to get to including a sealed case along with the speaker removal you are not able to find it in the vehicle. A big benefit is the airtag updates every 10-30 minutes and you can find the location of your vehicle easily. The battery will last a long while before it needs to be replace The notification would also be somewhat of a deterrent. You can pretty much hide the airtag anywhere on the car, and the more difficult to get to the better. Under $30 as well In my experience it is 100% worth it to have, even if that is the only anti-theft measure you use
@@untouchedforce6388 A lot of thieves have iPhones, possibly stolen themselves. You have to hide the Airtag really well so that thieves will have to spend an inordinate amount of effort finding it and it will alert them that the car is being tracked.
On the first lock you drilled, I would have turned the key way to the opposite side so you only see the back of the lock, the best of a cheap way his to put a cut out switch from the coil or diesel pump where mine was at the back of a ash tray Colin from England ❤
@@Partnerthedogya I don't think would look good for the Brand they are trying to build up. Plus criminals would enter giving them the limelight. I think your confused on why they make these types of videos, they make them for good people. They want us to be more informed on how crap these devices are. They are not showing criminals how to do it.
Back when I was in college and had to park on the street in the city, I just took the distributor rotor with me. The car was broken into a couple of times but never stolen. Today, take one of the relays in the fuse panel that enables the starter.
I got a disklok on my street parked car not because I think it's unbeatable, but just to make it a bit less desireable for a thief randomly looking for a car to steal, than the car next to it. If they REALLY want MY car, and they go through the annoyance of bypassing it, they can have it. I love it and take care of it, but at the end of the day, it's just "a thing".
Exactly, I use the disklok more as a deterrent for theives. Big and clearly visible so stops theives trying mine, and instead go for the car opposite. Though I also have an immobiliser too, the immobiliser won't stop a thief from breaking your window/locks and having a go at starting your car.
"It's just a thing" you really don't value your life do you? How many hours did you work to be able to own your car? That is time and effort that you won't get back if you lose what is yours. It's this kind of thinking that normalizes theft and discourages deterring said thefts.
@@Hybris51129 do you really think "this kind of thinking normalizes theft and discourages deterring said thefts"? If so, I'm sorry, but it has literally nothing to do with it. This thinking just gives me peace of mind and less stress than constantly thinking of how to avoid it being stolen. Also, it's insured. If it gets stolen, I get my money back, so all you say about my life, time, etc. makes no sense. What if thieves get into your house to get the keys or something else because you were too smart "deterring" them? And they harm you or your family for it? Say what you want, but it still is just a thing. A material possession. Worth way less than my life, that of my family, or our health, etc. Also with all the shit going on in the world, hardly the worse thing that can happen.
@@kingofsloths9539 exactly. It being big and visible might make the difference between the thieves not wanting to go through the hassle (they don't know if you also have an immobiliser or not) and you having to repair windows/locks/etc just because they found out while inside about that.
@@JuanManuelTastzian Thank you for proving my point, you value nothing save for the illusion of feeling safe. You are just a denied insurance claim and a home invasion away from realizing just how much can be taken away from you. Here's hoping that you won't have to see that scenario but still it's a good idea to keep in touch with reality and have a plan.
The potato trick COULD work if the immobilizer has the PINS exposed instead of the socket. But the Ravelco can also be copied by a thief and held in a little case where they just pull the male plug out, plug it in and drive away after hotwiring in 15 seconds...
Incorrect. Every single plug is unique per car. It’s not one plug fits all. And if you plug the wrong plug into it I could short the fuse panel and destroy the car. This is why if you ever loose the plug you have to call Ravelco to order a replacement and they need a special number off the unit to order the correct one.
@@spleen01 Much like how lock companies need a specific unit number to cut you a new key... I mean the marketing is nice, but this is a mass-produced thing. It's not gonna be hand-assembled. All the pins appeared to be of the same length, so that's indicating that the plug is built en masse to some kind of pattern Once that pattern is deciphered, the device is not secure anymore
Won't work. It's not connecting them all together, it's connecting each one to it's correct mate. You've got to have a cap with the right pattern of connections to work.
5:30 I think you will still have a hard time to drive after cutting through it. That cable is not very flexible and it's still on the steering wheel after cutting.
Just take the motor with you when you leave your car. Like those expensive car radios back in the early 2000s.
Instead or "fix this car to win it" donut should do "steal this car to keep it" hide a kill switch and stuff like that
Just take out a spark plug
@@Thudd224 I'm not a car guy, but can't most cars run with one missing, just runs rough and is bad for the engine?
@@ericmills9839 yup
i once took my engine to the automechanic shop because it would not start. They were for some reason really confused why i bothered taking out the engine when i could just have brought the entire car. But i told them that if their TV breaks, they dont bring their entire house to the TV repair man now do they?
if that potato would’ve worked, that dude would’ve been so mad 😂
what about a mashed potato?
@Underskore smashing it in there is basically mashed potatoes. It couldn't possibly touch every prong perfectly so no form of potato would practically work reliably to actually use
Metal bbq grill brush will bypass it quick 😂
If they held it in there it may have depending on how its set up. Its the making a connection bit that counts so a probe and piece of wire will work.
EDIT - 18:40 yeah like that...
I think it could have worked if the male end was attached to the car, and the female was the fob. Instead of the potato going into the holes, the prongs would be shoved into the potato.
As someone with a car in which you can push the driver side window down with your hands (and no interest in fixing it), this video was still a fun watch.
It's so satisfying that the thief went through so much effort tearing apart the car only to have to give up.
Happens same day as testing anti theft devices... coincidence? no, california.
Thats also time taken from the thief getting another car.
Its not a big deal for them for the effort as its like gambling u lose at one table you just move to another, you dont bother about the effort you put on that game or the past life choices that led you up to the table you would lose on. You just move on
I mean yeah but if you're stealing a car, you'd just rip the interior pieces shreds which is usually faster than removing them properly.
proof even if a kill switch isn't perfect, it still usually works. your car doesn't have to be impossible to steal, it has to just be so inconvenient that a thief gives up and tries somewhere else
Now we know how Donut keeps getting these "$500" project cars
$500 for the drill and angle grinder.
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Best solutions are for Anti-Theft is:
Add a immobilizer / hidden kill switch.
And for tracking:
Buy a cheap smartphone, buy the cheapest 5g internet plan, add a tracker app to the phone, hide it under a panels with a permanent charger attached to it. The tracking should last until the car battery drains + 5~10days from the phone battery in standby mode.
A alternative is hide a apple airtag on the car. Its not as precise as a smartphone with GPS but last ~1 year before you have to change the battery.
You can also use both options for redundancy.
Have to be careful tho because the phone on charge all the time is now a fire Hazzard
@@evanalden2117 Its a small possibility but would still take years for the battery to degrade to that point. It will start bulging way before catching on fire.
And if the battery reached the point of bulging it already lost most of its original capacity with severely reduces the risk of fire since the risk of it catching on fire is directly corelated with how much charge it has left.
Possible solutions are:
There are apps and dongles that you can use to control how your phone is charged.
Or added a timer that only let the charger run for a few hours each day.
@@vitor900000as someone with lots of experience with phones and lithium batteries, just don't. The chances of fire are far higher than you think.
Apple airtag, no cost for service and as long as your in a somewhat populated area you have a free tracker. Also battery last for 2 years i believe
@@vitor900000do not keep a phone connected to a charger indefinitely it will fry the phone. LTT has a video on this
If there is ever a part 2, we need Lock Picking Lawyer on it! I'd love to see what vulnerabilities he would find. Richard still did great as he noted the weak points actual thieves would attack. Lock Picking Lawyer will show us how unsecure these products really are. I have a feeling that the lock cylinders on most of these products can be raked or bumped.
I second this.
Meanwhile McNally:
this is a 2003 honda civic, you can start it with a 2003 honda civic.
* proceeds to crash one car into the other in order to bump start it *
he's tested pretty much all of them already
I wouldn't trust LPL reviews on this. Locks already open by him looking at them even before he tries to bypass them.
They sent him one of the locks from one of the original videos. Was a couple years ago I think.
From my experience a simple hidden switch that you have to click before starting works amazing. Hide it in reach of the driver seat but not in eye sight. Say under the seat or in the ceiling of a pocket cubby in the dash. IMO momentary switch work best that you hold when starting as a toggle you have to remember to toggle off when you leave the car.
For tracking we always used apple airtags but remove the speaker first. Worst case the thief gets a notice on their iphone "AirTag found moving with you" but they wont be able to make it beep so they cant find it to remove it without spending hours. Hiding it well is important, I say hide it under the carpet or epoxy it somewhere under the car and paint it so you cant tell.
thats what I did but mine is a old pincode lock off a timed safe, so even if they find the button they still need the code.
They need to be recharged though. It's too bad they can't take advantage of wireless charging
@@theredscourge The AirTags? You swap out a button battery every 2-3 years min. Every AirTag I have owned has lasted minimum 2 and a bit years.
@@OfficialSamuelC Yeah but that's going to be a pain in the ass if you hide it somewhere that's hard to get to. Also easy to forget.
I dont think thieves use iPhone, they probably need to incognito their phone, or use some open source hacking tool so chances are dedicated thieves use androids. but sometimes people who arent thieves, presented with an opportunity, probably didnt think much and commit theft does exist
The old 'pocket the fuel pump relay' has never failed me
Yes but replace the one you took with a blown one
@@magnitude7644 bros using 110% of their brain
What about if your car is carbureted?
@@magnitude7644u are officially the smartest man alive
I was searching YiuTube for ideas like this. I thought about installing a hidden kill switch inline or something.
What I like about The Club style devices is they fulfill the idea that: 'Your car doesn't have to be IMPOSSIBLE to steal, just HARDER to steal than the OTHER GUY'S car.' (And the club fufills that because it can be seen by potential thieves.)
Just like how a thief will walk around trying door handles until they find an unlocked car, and THAT is the one that'll get ransacked (or slept/pissed in, etc).
Exactly this. Thieves want fast and easy. Make it even a little bit harder and they'll move on.
Yeah, this. It’s functionally impossible to create an unstealable car, and the vast majority of car thieves are opportunistic, so you really only need to make it more trouble than it’s worth to them.
Your comment is a LOT more concise than mine turned out lmao. Great point!
@@ZackC BINGO! It's all a cost/benifit analysis- If stealing something (say, a car) has an opportunity cost that exceeds the value of doing so, that object will cease to have strategic/tactical value, and won't be attacked- when another, profitable option (such as, one's next door neighbor?) exists.
Writ large, this is broadly the state of affairs in modern conflicts, which is MAD, etc.)
@@caffienatedtactician
That's strange. I usually am the one that has to go to the foundations and proceed from there... yours made sense...
Best thing to do is a 1-2$ switch hidden on your fuel pump power wire
Wasnt it tested by carwow to be the best method?
How do you stop thieves from rolling your car away? I mean they bust the window, and simply use force to break the shifter and steering column . They put it in neutral and push it away. It is common practice here in Detroit (unfortunately) With these SMART keys, most cars cannot be started without it.
Works well. Even against my friends who I tell them where it is. Don't have locks or a working locking cylinder, took it to the east side of Cleveland and it was never stolen unfortunately
Massive liability if it fails and causes an accident. Opens tons of latitude for an investigator to blame the connections (in cold weather especially) and switch itself. Great concept though- maybe copy the type of connections used by those breathalyzer interlock companies, and you'd maybe be ok.
@@mattb9664 interlocks are notoriously unreliable
The ol' school method is a few kill-switches. My uncle has an old Ford pickup that they built into a rock crawler. The kill-switches prevented it from being stolen a long time ago. I know there are 3 on the truck. 2 are accessible by the driver or passenger, and 1 is accessible outside in case of emergency. It also has a weird ignition system so the thieves just stole his radio and his emergency gear from behind his seat.
Good ol' truck. My uncle still has the ol' beast. It doesn't run anymore; but it is a cool yard ornament.
'it doesnt run anymore' might wanna flip the kill switch lol
The simplest way to defeat those pedal to wheel locks is simply to stamp on the pedal and bend the steering wheel. You don't even need tools. The real advantage to any of these devices is as a deterrent - if your car is slightly harder to steal than the one next to it, it's way less likely to get stolen. One good idea I've used, especially on older cars, is to run the ignition wire through a separate switch, like a foglight switch or something on the dashboard. Without hitting that switch, the ignition won't activate.
Nice
Agreed 👍🏿
I wired my ignition through the turn signal. Now my BMW won't start!
@BogeyTheBear maybe not enough voltage or you have to engage the indicators?
@@theglitch99 woosh
The Eric Andre "Google, show me this guy's balls" soundbite was so funny 😂
Yes! Happy to see others caught it too!
Lol for real i’ve seen that in another donut video i hope this is something they use a lot
Timestamp?
@@jamesjonathan7187 about 8:58
1:26 "Stealing² !"
That cracked me up. 😂
What most car enthusiasts do is route the battery cable somewhere in the car and stick an isolator key in somewhere. Even if someone steals the keys if they don’t know where the isolator key is or where it goes, they’re not going anywhere. I’ve already had that system tested when my house was broken into. The thieves managed to find the main keys and the isolator key but couldn’t figure out where that key went and they gave up on that.
Just get a progression ignition distributor and you shut off the ability to start the car with app on your phone. Unless they steal your phone and can unlock it and password for the app then they can never start car.
Where are yall parking lol?
"Aw damn dude, stealing squared" lol. That was perfect.
This
When I lived in California in 2008 and car thefts went up, my father heard a story about Ravelco and had it installed on all three of our cars. The way it is installed ties it into all of the electronics of the engine, and they tape over it. Unless you know the wires used, it is really difficult to remove. They wrap all the wires together to make it even more difficult.
I love that the revelco solution is literally just to add another key
And to add to that, I don’t think the Revelco keys are unique. So if I’m a professional thief, I’d just buy one myself, and add the key to my kit of gear. I also think it’s likely people just forget to remove the Revelco key quite often. Unless, they made it so you can’t turn the engine off until you first remove the Revelco key…
And they did not specify if each key is unique, but I guess they are otherwise you could just buy one and use it on every car.
I checked the website, and it says they use different combinations so most likely a second key wouldn't work.
Theres literally 2 pins you need to bridge in the port. rest are fake
@@hillpparithey tried that in the video, didnt work 18:30
2G making all the birds illiterate 🤣🤣🤣. I love James
Is this the precursor to 3G making the frogs gæ?
Also don’t buy a tracker buy a Tesla tracking is built in and updated fast
Quick install ECM.
@@Roaviator747 wow why doesn't anybody else mention this simple and cheap hack! just a buy a tesla guys! i feel so stupid :(
@@idhatemet00 innit
Thank Christ James said that’s a knock off Nardi wheel. I nearly had a stroke watching that get cut 😅😅👌🏼
A simple hidden switch in your car somewhere that turns off something important will work wonders.
exactly, get a tiny pushbutton toggle switch and wire it inline to the ignition system somewhere under the wheel. Assuming the goal here is to defeat a thief who stole your key at least.
@@Connie_cpu
Sure, that is secure against a skillful attack- it would be a total FLUKE if the elecreonics were hacked, huh?
(Actually, any car that is even slightly more secure than the next car,... it's probably done it's job. Thieves are generally lazy, and seeing even a Club is probably enough to make them go and steal the car next door, instead of your's, eh. (It's passive security (vs blaring sirens, 911 calls, etc)..
Problem solved! (Maybe.)
@@bholdr----0 my car is too dumb to be hacked
That seems the best and also cheapest. But with a little fumbling around there's a chance a thief could find it. Depending on how good it is hidden.
My sisters car has a hidden kill switch. But the switch is magnetic and hidden in the door sill infront of the drivers seat where it's easy to reach. There is no visual indication that there's anything there. She carries a small magnet in her armrest. You have to touch the magnet to the very specific spot against the door sill. Even if I show people how to start it, most of them cant find the specific spot. So no way a thief would even know to look for something like this. And the wires are hidden so well, I can't even tell what and where it is spliced into. All aftermarket.
I have 2 in one of my cars one cuts power to the starter solenoid, that's under the dash, the other cuts power to accessory 2/ run pos, car won't start unless both are on, but you can flick the starter cutout off while running, can't restart the car without turning it back on
Can't believe they didn't review the trunk monkey. Best anti-theft device.
Trunk money is the undisputed best anti theft device 😂
I'm amazed that American cars still don't come with Trunk Monkeys as standard. We've had them in new cars for about 20 years.
Never heard of a car being successfully stolen with trunk monkey installed
@@smalltime0I’ve still got my OEM trunk monkey from the early 90s!
It's an old meme, but it checks out.
You have the best theft deterrent walking around behind you. We kind need a spotlight of the dogs of Donut. It would be nice to be up to speed on the crew’s pet life!
2G dosent work anymore AT&T discontinued service on that network in 2017, while Verizon shuttered its 2G network around 2020. T-Mobile said earlier this year it would turn off its 2G GSM network on April 2, 2024.
Same in some countries of EU, maybe all, 2G is now only for police/fire etc. departments.
I had to buy even a new wireless set for my guitar because the old one became illegal.
But it is still making birds illiterate 😉
@@slendergollumimagine following laws
@DATAN420 He's a Europoor, they're all lemmings
@@DATAN420 depends on intention, like driving laws could be said to be safe but thats true or not depending on state. also driving fast is not safe but people like driving fast, so its not like people are right either
One of the things I actually like about RUclips car advertisements is that their short enough (and specifically in donuts case, well made and enjoyable enough) but long enough to actually go over the details of the cars rather than just throwing words up on a screen or having someone famous drive in it with no emotion. It’s such a boring concept, but to allow RUclipsrs to advertise their cars, they have creative people, who aren’t afraid to rip a car apart, attest to what they like most. I’m glad some companies are smart enough to work with creators; and they better be paying well lol
I'm mad because I basically diy'd a wilderness in mods the model year before it existed (added in a transmission cooler on the sport model and put some steel skid plates all under it from primitive).
If I could have waited a bit longer I'd have that camera and anti glare =/. Also would have saved a bunch of time lol
I think you're getting this a bit muddled.
They gave Donut a load of money and a script to read from. That's it. If you want an impartial review, probably best to avoid sponsored ads.
I appreciate the GI Joe Parody Vid references. "Imma computa!" "Stop all the down loadin!"
The donut editors are great
Just take the steering column with you when you leave that way no one can steal it
I like to remove the transmission when I park
@@TheAquadianI prefer to throw a bag of Nuts into the engine when I park.
I usually take my car with me into the store.
Acceleration pedal is much easier to remove ;)
Like Mr Bean. Remember to bring a suitcase to put it in 👍 😊
If you have a hot car, hidden kill switch is your friend. Especially if it's something like steering wheel button combinations. If you are going away for extended periods you should take your battery out, or pull an engine bay fuse.
or take a relay, no one carries spares.
I have an air tag I put in the frame of my truck (even if I told you good luck getting it out). I also have seen kill switches that are so funny like one guy installed on the bottom of a cup holder (he would also have a hydro in his car) so when he put the hydro in the cup holder it completed the circuit. I’ve seen other funny ones like they put a normally open button on glovebox latch…essentially you had to open the glovebox to start the vehicle but after starting you can close it. It's the really stupid ones like that that work. You can also do it through your ac controls, fog light switches, even wind shield wipers…just be creative with it. personally my truck is stick and the gas cap locks so im not too worried
Good luck replacing the airtag battery in two years.
@@higihups I have a method to get it out pretty easy but would be a pain unless you know how it’s installed. I’ve basically rebuilt my truck over the last year so I know all the ins and outs
I have 3 AirTags inside my car 😂 One under the passenger floor mat, One glued to the spare tire, last one in the glove box (easy to find on purpose/bait 😂)
The heavy duty clutch pedal lock is not primarily designed for theft. A 988 loader requires a semi truck to move. It’s designed to keep people from joy riding or messing with equipment. I’ve seen people do lots of damage by joy riding in a loader.
When I was moving across the country with everything I own in one U-Haul, I just took a photo of the fuse box and removed every fuse. Temporary sabotage is the only way. My biggest fear by that point was a tow-away theft. You kind of need to chain the front and rear axel together, if not chain it to a solid object or ground anchor. Using Abus’ thickest chain and insurance lock.
Thats basically what i do with my car, just pull the ECU fuse in the engine bay. I have a club as well for visual spur of the moment thieves, and then the fuse if they get past that.
Who the hell is going to steal your useless shit? If it's in a UHAUL, 99.9% of the time it's worthless old shit, nobody wants. Why would a thief with any actual capabilities steal that worthless shit over something like a semi-trailer full of
new product, or a Fedex/UPS/Amazon truck? Or literally anything else other than your broken in couch full of beer farts, a cum stained mattress, and some shart filled underwear?
You can just put a U lock through a wheel where it will jam on the brake caliper if the wheel turns. That's what I do with my motorcycle. Another bike was stolen from my apartment carports, but not mine. Mine is a pain in the ass to steal.
Fuse was my first idea too. "Wire in a $2 switch" seems like a great idea until the switch fails on the highway. @@_Zekken
@@aluisious You can cut through that in less than 30 seconds...I'm glad you've been lucky so far. But if you try that in a high theft environment with pros around, your ride would be gone if they want it.
One anti theft device that comes to mind comes from the made for TV movie The Dukes of Hazzard: Hazzard in Hollywood where Bo Duke uses a potato sack filled with rattlesnakes as anti-theft device. LOL.
Another anti-theft device from the movies is the "Detroit Jock strap" from the 3rd Naked Gun movie and high voltage device from the 2nd Robocop movie called "Magnavolt".
Would keeping a banana in the tail pipe a la Beverly Hills Cop work? Would a thief even think of looking there?
I used a club in one of my cars way back in the day but I used to mount it on the backside so the lock faced the gauges.
smart
Yup! That's how they are supposed to be installed, says right in the manual
Yeah, I was really disappointed that they didn't bother using basic intelligence to make it even slightly difficult. Not sure if the rear side of the lock cylinder is any more resistant but even a fool could JB weld a chunk of conically-shaped steel to it and make it extremely difficult to even get the drill on it without instantly slipping. With that, it wouldn't even be feasible to drill anymore, and a sufficient cutting implement is now required which a prospective thief may not have on hand.
I used to use the club and then one day the lock jammed and I couldn't get it off. I struggled with it until the lock fell apart and the pins fell out and I could take it off.
I used three Club on my ‘68 Chevelle back in the day. The thief bent the sh** out of my steering wheel, but didn’t get it off. I also had a Viper alarm on it, and the thief tore my wiring all up. At least they couldn’t steal my car.
Totally right about the tracker, thing until you say ok I’ll handle it myself, then they start to freak out a little.
The cops will literally go get the stolen car the same day you call them if you have its location and proof
@@aumua2876 Probably not in socal.... now in most other areas of the US yeah but unless they can see it there's no PC so they'd have to try getting a warrant
@@aumua2876 Not here. A guy had a tracker and told the police where it was. They refused to come out until the next day and the car was in a rail car. Officer said he doesn't have the power to search the rail car. The train was later moved through two other police jursidictions and each refused to check it out. Stolen cars are not a priority.
@@RatKindlerThey defo are not a priority. Had one stolen two years back. Had everything I needed to show it was my car. They still never tried. Starting ghosting me whenever I inquired about it. I'm 100% certain its either scrap or somewhere in Mexico now.
@aumua2876 you're under the impression that California isn't pro crime, allow reality to change your perspective
THEY PUT THE CLUB ON BACKWARDS!!!! YOU PUT IT INSIDE THE STEERING WHEEL!!! THEN YOU CAN'T REACH THE LOCK WITH A DRILL!!!
Oh shoot imma try this ty
Dont need to just cut the steering wheel
They used to sell a battery with a key fob to turn it on/off. Of course you lose any car alarm, plus all your radio presets, and whatever else the car needs. You’d need to put a different battery in to start/steal the car, assuming you knew it was a “trick” battery. Otherwise, a kill switch works well.
Shout out to Cobb - back in 2004 their newly released AccessPort tuner had an anti-theft feature. You could park it with a real time map that allowed the car to start but it would die at over 1k rpm, so you couldn’t drive it. You could still tow it away. There was a bypass for that, but then Suby owners figured a defeat for the bypass - so you could essentially just lock out your ecu and you’d need to swap the ecu in order to start the car.
Cobb also had a valet mode that limited rpm and boost. Just be sure to take the AccessPort with you when you park, and not hide it under the seat or in the trunk - you lazy lazy owners! Hahaha
Back when I lived in a high car theft area of Arizona, I just installed a $3 toggle switch that cut out the connection between the ignition coil and the distributor. It stopped at least 2 attempted thefts of the vehicle. (I installed it in the first place because the car had been stolen twice before, then it was gifted to me)
I've always heard that "the opportunity makes the thief", meaning most crimes or theft is not pre-planned, they simply take advantage of an opportunity. Most won't be walking around with bolt cutters or power saws.
I think you have misinterpreted. Crimes of opportunity are exactly that but there are still individuals and groups who make a living from theft, often specialising in things like motor theft, home burglary or even specific businesses such as farm and construction equipment which is expensive enough to ship to the other side of the world.
@@chrishughes3405 Sure, but mostly what I meant by that is I wish they'd brought up the point of even IF the wheel lock products are easy to remove if you'd really want to they're definitely enough of a deterrent to stop "opportunity thief".
People don't opportunistically take a car in the heat of the moment. The type of thief you're describing is the guy who smashes your window because you left your wallet in the cupholder.
The Disklok works on many other vehicles with a lower roofline / windshield angle. Would love to see you guys redo this and try to bypass this instead of just discrediting it. I doubt you can get a drill to drill the lock at a good angle if the center console is in the way, nor cutting apart the steerlng wheel would be any easier.
Yeah was quite disappointed they just didnt try. All they were doing was spinning the disk and not turning the steering wheel, and im pretty sure if you fit it right and adjust the tightness you can turn it all even less.
Certainly not a fair assessment considering I have one and I’m using it in a mk7 golf.
The lock hits the window and my legs if I try to drive it and overall is an absolute nightmare..
Test it properly
Also cars have steering locks...
@@ITSTHEBeeman
I agree.
They barely turned the wheel.
I'd like to see a complete right or left turn with that on.
Just search RUclips for "tubular lock bypass", you will find plenty videos how these can be defeated.
For me a quick release steering wheel, a hidden battery killswitch, immobilizer and a manual transmission all in one are the best theft deterrent.
Many thief’s know how to drive manual?
@@MAXIMEROCKonly 20% of Americas can, so it definitely is a theft deterrent
Do you carry your wheel into the grocery store?
@@SmolPotatowoyes on a backpack
Then you open a company for a quick release gear stick remove that and shifting it to D would be an issue for the thieves?
That 70mai is a dashcam, and it's actually a pretty good one I've been using for 6 months. Not sure who sold it as a rear facing camera especially considering it has collision detection listed as one of the features where it saves the current video clip in an accident folder automatically
I've removed plug wires when parking my old Hondas- of course, then I have to try and remember how they route to drive off. However, my new product, Seat Lethal, combines a car alarm and lethality because who doesn't love a dead body in the car. Seat Lethal uses a CO2 cartridge that when triggered, sends a stainless spike upwards thru the seat, impaling the car thief. Mind you, now I don't want to drive my car over bumps....I'm still working on it :)
Congratulations, that's a booby trap. Hope your local laws don't convict you of murder
If you are serious about this, booby trapping is illegal in all of the US
What i learned as a volunteer firefighter is that it is way faster to just cut the steering wheel with a sawzall or similar cutting tool right by the steering wheel hook on the club and force it through the cut than messing with anything like trying to drill out the lock etc..
Something that I didn't see them touch on about the Revelco car immobilizer that really should have been mentioned is that these plugs have over 100,000 combinations. This means that any other plug, or a dummy plug, will most likely fry something before it actually allows a thief to get away with the car. The plugs that comes with the one installed for your vehicle have a 1 in 100,000 chance of being replicated in another vehicle which makes this a fairly strong deterrent over all. Save for a thief just cutting it off and rewiring all the leads together to steal your car, it isn't a bad option I'd say.
Personally, I'd still have a hidden dummy switch as well just to have two steps all the same.
Are they actually all keyed unique though?
@@seanmiller9448 as said, there is a 1 in 100,000 chance of another vehicle having the same wire configuration as the cap you would get. If everyone in the US got one, only 3300 people would have the same cap as you.
Poor Henry and his Suburban 😂 at least it didn’t get stolen this time! Thanks for including the anecdote! Crazy timing on that lmao
The cartel tried to take his truck for sure
Disklok works on smaller vehicles where the arm hits the screen or dashboard. The lock spins if you try to drill it and you can't cut the steering wheel. Test it again on am appropriate vehicle!
Yep, it's a good deterant. Spins on the steering wheel until the arm hits the screen or dash. It's also very visible before someone even breaks the glass to enter the vehicle.
Didn't see them actually drive the vehicle with the disc on.
Would be interested in seeing more high-tech stuff. That actual car people would use.
Like the Cobb anti-theft mode that changes fuel maps on the car.
Or a hidden kill switch wired to the fuel pump.
I use the Cobb antitheft on my ST. No idea how well it works, but I already had the accessport so I figured why not.
Having a manual car with a quick release wheel and taking the steering wheel with you would honestly do a lot to prevent theft. Plus these are things that you already want for your car in the first place lol
omg the song in the subaru crosstrek ad at 3:30 awakened ancient memories
The ECU keylogger killswitches for more modern cars are pretty neat. You set a combination of any of the buttons in your car that go through your ecu... so audio controls, windows, any headlights, wipers etc... and your car wont start unless you run that combination
Ooo wow that's a good idea!
You’re describing the devices that set a pin into your menu right? And you have to type it in?
I just saw this , so that essentially is good enough?
I love how someone just happened to break into the producer’s car while they were making this video. 😭
Well they are in California and things are particularly shit down there at the moment.
@@Hybris51129 "down there"... California is huge
@@dtemp132 And the state is a wreck. You might have some hold outs in the more rural corners but for most of the populated areas the story is the same out of control crime.
Gotta love liberal cities
@@dtemp132 if someone mentions California 99% of times it will be either LA or SF or any surrounding vanity areas. And well, crime being rampant is an understatement outside of the super high class gated communities
8:57 the sound clips got me rollin 😂😂
Man made it, man can break it.
No security device in infallible
Absolutely true.
In the same train of thought any deterrent is better than none at all. Even a cheap sticker stating the car is actively tracked may move the random thief from your car to another one.
If I was ever parked somewhere I was honestly worried about leaving my car overnight I would just take my fuel pump relay out and put it in my pocket lol
That's not a bad idea. You can even get a fuse that has a toggle it.
Funnily enough, we "tested" fuel pump relays by using jumpers in the socket; if the pump ran, we'd replace the relay. Gonna guess it's a 30-second operation.
Scotty Kilmer had a video where he showed doing that, I forget if it was fuel or ignition relay.
Wow, thanks guys, you are great. I really appreciate the effort you put into testing these devices.
"stop all the downloading!" got me so good, what a reference ahahah
caught the "I'm a computah" lmao
The GI JOE PSA quote at 8:59 is legendary. Edit: and again at 13:14 lol.
"Pork chop sandwiches!!"
HEY KID
The Ravelco costs $700 for a device I could do for $40 in 45 minutes that would be completely hidden I'd probably splice into the wiring harness that opens and closes the fuel pump relay with the switch engaged the engine can't receive fuel and won't start.
Just buy a lada nobody wants to steal that
Instead or "fix this car to win it" donut should do "steal this car to keep it" hide a kill switch and stuff like that
That’s why we have own a bright real restored 1995 Geo Tracker. Everyone loves it. No one is going to steal it.
Those aren't made anymore ?
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This is america?
One thing you can do that is absolutely free although it is mainly for older cars is disconnecting the battery and switching around at least two distributor cables
In my old truck the easy anti theft was simply taking the primary off the distributor. Not many car thieves take spark plug wires with them.
I get that steering wheel looks, especially on the budget friendly end, are not a full solution; but the added time and tools an opportunist might need can make all the difference. Last year my Kia was attempted on. The would be thieves smashed the darkly tinted window just to find The Club on the steering wheel. Upon seeing that I guess they didn’t have the skill, tools, or time to steal it. They rummaged through my glove box real quick and took off. When I reviewed the tapes from security, it was really just a group of teenagers, they didn’t have a Sawsall or power drill. It did suck to deal with the headache of having my window replaced, but my car survived.
Probably some of the Kia Boys looking for a joyride. If your windows weren't blacked out, they may not have even smashed it as they would have been able to see the Club.
My fiancées soul was attempted to be taken back in December, they broke the window and ripped the bottom column shroud off but got spooked by a white suv that drive by. They pulled up in another soul too. Same deal, stupid unequipped teens.
@@bwofficial1776 That’s exactly what I think. But the face remains that the club prevented them from taking my car, despite the damage. CAT thieves have learned to carry Sawsalls with them everywhere they go; until more car thieves decide to carry power tools with them, the club is a solid piece of deterrent.
If I had to look for anti theft solutions, I think I would go for a kill switch or a removable steering wheel
The Mr. Bean solution.
reminds me of a common practice I remember seeing in areas with high bike theft: take the seat with you, and maybe a wheel.
I really like that DIY fuel pump deactivation, instead of using the fuse box put in line.
A small hidden switch is all it takes, as long as it's connected properly.
I love getting all of my car theft tips from Donut
9:00 that sound bite is wild and I’m sure it went over peoples heads 😅😂
The Lock Picking Lawyer also previously covered Equipment Lock Co's products. They can be good but you want one that comes with an actual keyed lock and not a combination lock as combo locks are much easier to bypass.
Not saying it would have worked, but the idea with the potato is that you have to hold it in place. The idea is it’s making contact with all the connections at once and using the part of the potato that isn’t jammed in the holes as a conductor of the signal.
They should definitely try again and update
Although I can understand the concept I have tried it on my own Ravelco system. Just out of curiosity, but my system is wired to multiple different parts of the vehicle. And it most definitely didn’t work and blew a few fuses. If you have a good installer it simply will not work. My installer even if you find the right jumper for one you have a few more to go and it takes days. Thieves have tried on mine multiple timessss
I think with a test light its doable, start with key off, check all for 12, key on recheck, 1 at a time work wipers, headlights etc. Then after seeing what all see 12, just jump them to any hole that never shows 12. From what I understand, its just a break in the circuit and any one of the non 12v wires is just a path to ground. I should include that once you find 12, you're going to have to then send it down 1 at a time down each hole to see whats what.@@foreverhockey7248
The ideal aftermarket car tracking device would be an Apple AirTag but which can be kept fully charged with wireless charging, then you just need any old cheap wireless charger wired in to the system to keep it working.
the point is to not let your car get taken in the first place...
It has to be in the vicinity of an iphone to ping a location, plus if it’s following someone long enough their iphone will tell them there’s one there. It’s something but if they’re away from any phone it won’t send a location.
@@KirbyLouis Yeah but good luck with achieving that given how easy most of these anti-theft devices are to defeat, and how expensive the good ones tend to be.
You could just take the fuel system relay out when you park the car for free, but these are not meant to be removed and replaced hundreds of times.
I personally would prefer to add a few cheap things that make it annoying to steal, then have a way to track it after it's stolen so I can steal it back.
@@theredscourge fuel pump kill switch(not expensive in any sense) or the revelco option(not expensive in relation to losing/buying a new car... 7-900$ is a bargain)
You can't wirelessly charge an AirTag
Some of the best security you can have, is driving a cheap dependable car without dark tinted windows, and not leaving ANY personal items laying around in the cabin.
My 2013 kia just got broken into and almost stolen Friday and has nothing in it and no tint on the windows. Some people just want to ruin you day.
Nothing is foolproof. @@jacquelinehilliard9753
I say install a airbag in your seat, and any start up without the appropriate safety start it goes off.
That’s how you get sued though
@@blunthex no one told the dude to try stealing the car
@@blunthex yeah.... can also counter sue... just need a warning printed somewhere. There is nothing guarenteeing safety when stealing....
@@blunthexSadly you are likely legally speaking correct.
@serenity1378 six months of awful luck? That’s bs.
This is the reason Cali’s in deep shit, you can steal your way out of life.
The "im a computer" line at 8:58 blew me away. Who references gi joe psa youtube poops in 2024?! So obscure and so awesome lmao.
The best car security story I've heard happened when I was at uni. I had my own car broken into and they were also targeting a group of independent businesses (mechanics, body shops, auto electricians etc)
The local business owners were sick of customers cars being broken into and decided to do something about it.
They parked one of their vans with a mobile phone clearly visible and waited for the inevitable. Unbeknown to the thief there were 5 men in the back of the van. After a little chat and drive into the country no cars were broken into again.
Screw the law, sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I have no problem with the business owners handling it themselves.
8:57 LMAO
the editors really do be cookin
Eric Andre is eternal
Can't belive the number of these I'm seeing on new cars these days, it's like manufacturers forgot how to make a secure car. It's like the 70's and 80's over again.
Best theft deterrent: the manual transmission stick in the middle 😂
OK unoriginal, unfunny boomer.
Dangit...beat me lol.
Yeah, no young punk today stealing cars gonna get past manual here in the US with only 1,34% of all cars on US roads being stick shift. 😂
i had my manual car stolen
@@sinabetterday In the US?...Dang, I call that determination lol...I've had people try when I lived in WI...Got em on CCTV watching tutorial on how to drive stick shift and they still failed to steal my car. ^.^
@@Chargath81 california thieves are pros, they didnt even break my glass
One thing you missed here is the way you put the club on was amateur hour. You put the club on backwards so the lock is facing towards the cluster. This makes it an absolute bitch to drill out. In some cars it just is not possible to do because it is too tight. I'm shocked I don't see more people put the clubs this way, it seems the way it is intended to work.
But the club is still on the steering wheel, which they demonstrated with subsequent products is the weak point.
@@PhillipBicknellNah - by installing it where you have to use the key on the other side, you're also supposed to lock it a certain way on the steering wheel where the rod interferes with the door, and the steering is compromised
I'd have liked to see them actually try to defeat the Disklock, rather than go "but this van gives me loads of space to go around it" and call it broken.
Don’t they sell devices that program a pin into your car screen so if you do not have the pin the car simply cannot run.
Are those useful? I like that idea . Some also keep your car in a mode where it can’t drive fast .
Also, can’t the wheel lock just be sawed through?
12:06 best time to take out your headphones and have your phone at full volume
Pull the fuel pump fuse from under the hood if your in that bad of a situation. I bet the thief would move on to the next car because they won't get it running
This was by far the best anti-theft or not video Donut has done! I would love to see other anti-theft specialists appear with their designs and whatever else you find and see who does the best!
Thanks to Donut once again for making my thieving jobs easier. A tip of my hat to you dudes!!!!
Just imagine owning a company that sells anti-theft devices, going on a RUclips channel to demonstrate them, and watch them get demolished in seconds 😂😂😂
15:06 "This is gonna get stolen with the car" 😂
LMFAOOO 2:17 I was wondering the same thing! looks more like a steering wheel decoration!
You can just put an air tag in your car between the roof shell and the layering. That’s definitely better than a GPS tracker.
I keep one in the owners manual. Don’t think any thief will look in there
One of these days, Donut is just gunna post a full hotwiring tutorial 😂
My husbands truck was just stolen, so we now plan to get the Ravelco. We are also gonna add the club just for visual theft protect and possibly be skipped over due to difficulty of stealing. I was also wanting to add the tevlaphee wheel lock for even EXTRA protection. I was curious what ur review on that would be. Obv the lock is the weak point but does it at least make it a tad more difficult?
That 70Mai M300 is the same dash cam I use! I've tried several that cost up to $100 but that one works the best, and has the clearest picture in the videos
Exactly. I have the one they tested for 3 years now, and it's not an in cabin camera like they thought, it's a standard Dash Cam and a fantastic one for the price.
@@RustyRenesis It's the only one I've used in that price range where you can clearly make out license plates and faces in the videos, the resolution is fantastic. Also easy to download videos directly to your phone, and they download in a playable file format without requiring other software to convert. I have a 128gb Samsung card in there and it holds roughly 1200 minutes of footage, organized by date and time. It overwrites the last video in the list to make the new one without any issues, never stops recording when the car is on. They also sell a kit where you can hard wire it to enable a bump sensor for when it's parked. I drive for a living, a good dash cam is crucial.
(everything I mention here are problems I experienced with other more expensive dash cams, 70Mai really did think of everything)
@@rw9495I myself use a 64GB Endurance SD card specially because my older SanDisk Ultra 64GB died prematurely. But yeah, i've loved it so far. Nothing but good things to say about them.
Speakerless airtag and a remote fuel pump shutoff is a pretty good combo
it will still alert iPhone users of an airtag nearby. and it only works if thieves have an iPhone. id suspect that most have burner androids from walmart
@@untouchedforce6388 if you hide it within the car they would have to rip the entire thing apart to get to it, hiding it deep under the dash with an inconspicuous case will make it look mostly factory. Hard to identify, and having an update every 10-30 minutes. I don't know if someone wants to spend the 30+ minutes it takes to disassemble the entire dash to get to it
@@untouchedforce6388 Hiding it under the dash that required a lot of work to get to including a sealed case along with the speaker removal you are not able to find it in the vehicle. A big benefit is the airtag updates every 10-30 minutes and you can find the location of your vehicle easily. The battery will last a long while before it needs to be replace
The notification would also be somewhat of a deterrent.
You can pretty much hide the airtag anywhere on the car, and the more difficult to get to the better. Under $30 as well
In my experience it is 100% worth it to have, even if that is the only anti-theft measure you use
@@untouchedforce6388 A lot of thieves have iPhones, possibly stolen themselves. You have to hide the Airtag really well so that thieves will have to spend an inordinate amount of effort finding it and it will alert them that the car is being tracked.
On the first lock you drilled, I would have turned the key way to the opposite side so you only see the back of the lock, the best of a cheap way his to put a cut out switch from the coil or diesel pump where mine was at the back of a ash tray Colin from England ❤
I like the good ol 12 guage on a string approach. Nothing says "stay away" like turning your new prospecting chop shop employee into a fine pink mist.
Then you get charged for murder. It’s illegal in the US and most countries to install Lethal traps.
@@ace448also the ppl that type these John wick machismo erotic fantasies are the first ppl to get killed in self defense
Watching these videos for ideas for my project
Instead or "fix this car to win it" donut should do "steal this car to keep it" hide a kill switch and stuff like that
@@Partnerthedogya I don't think would look good for the Brand they are trying to build up. Plus criminals would enter giving them the limelight. I think your confused on why they make these types of videos, they make them for good people. They want us to be more informed on how crap these devices are. They are not showing criminals how to do it.
@@brandonerrorcontentmissing4012 you must be fun at parties
@@brandonerrorcontentmissing4012 still it'd be cool to watch tho 😂
Back when I was in college and had to park on the street in the city, I just took the distributor rotor with me. The car was broken into a couple of times but never stolen. Today, take one of the relays in the fuse panel that enables the starter.
I got a disklok on my street parked car not because I think it's unbeatable, but just to make it a bit less desireable for a thief randomly looking for a car to steal, than the car next to it.
If they REALLY want MY car, and they go through the annoyance of bypassing it, they can have it.
I love it and take care of it, but at the end of the day, it's just "a thing".
Exactly, I use the disklok more as a deterrent for theives. Big and clearly visible so stops theives trying mine, and instead go for the car opposite. Though I also have an immobiliser too, the immobiliser won't stop a thief from breaking your window/locks and having a go at starting your car.
"It's just a thing" you really don't value your life do you? How many hours did you work to be able to own your car? That is time and effort that you won't get back if you lose what is yours.
It's this kind of thinking that normalizes theft and discourages deterring said thefts.
@@Hybris51129 do you really think "this kind of thinking normalizes theft and discourages deterring said thefts"? If so, I'm sorry, but it has literally nothing to do with it.
This thinking just gives me peace of mind and less stress than constantly thinking of how to avoid it being stolen. Also, it's insured. If it gets stolen, I get my money back, so all you say about my life, time, etc. makes no sense.
What if thieves get into your house to get the keys or something else because you were too smart "deterring" them? And they harm you or your family for it?
Say what you want, but it still is just a thing. A material possession. Worth way less than my life, that of my family, or our health, etc. Also with all the shit going on in the world, hardly the worse thing that can happen.
@@kingofsloths9539 exactly. It being big and visible might make the difference between the thieves not wanting to go through the hassle (they don't know if you also have an immobiliser or not) and you having to repair windows/locks/etc just because they found out while inside about that.
@@JuanManuelTastzian Thank you for proving my point, you value nothing save for the illusion of feeling safe. You are just a denied insurance claim and a home invasion away from realizing just how much can be taken away from you.
Here's hoping that you won't have to see that scenario but still it's a good idea to keep in touch with reality and have a plan.
The potato trick COULD work if the immobilizer has the PINS exposed instead of the socket.
But the Ravelco can also be copied by a thief and held in a little case where they just pull the male plug out, plug it in and drive away after hotwiring in 15 seconds...
Incorrect. Every single plug is unique per car. It’s not one plug fits all. And if you plug the wrong plug into it I could short the fuse panel and destroy the car.
This is why if you ever loose the plug you have to call Ravelco to order a replacement and they need a special number off the unit to order the correct one.
@@spleen01 Much like how lock companies need a specific unit number to cut you a new key...
I mean the marketing is nice, but this is a mass-produced thing. It's not gonna be hand-assembled.
All the pins appeared to be of the same length, so that's indicating that the plug is built en masse to some kind of pattern
Once that pattern is deciphered, the device is not secure anymore
Won't work. It's not connecting them all together, it's connecting each one to it's correct mate. You've got to have a cap with the right pattern of connections to work.
A potato would just short out the connector if were to get in
5:30 I think you will still have a hard time to drive after cutting through it. That cable is not very flexible and it's still on the steering wheel after cutting.
Having a stick shift is a decent anti theft nowadays lol