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This study is a great example of why we need to beware of “group think.” It is also important to teach individuality and leadership to kids starting from young, so they grow up into adults who know how to think for themselves.
I would partially agree. While group think can be dangerous, there's a difference between groupthink and collective action. Individuality and leadership skills can be important to maintain one's autonomy, but our society takes it to an extreme level of hyper individualism where all of your successes are your own, but all of your shortcomings are your own fault. When it comes to companies, specifically workers, group think and collective action can be a mighty weapon against oppressive corporations
I know I'm way late but this is wrong, this study was actually done to find out the reason behind German citizens willingness to remove(exterminate) Jewish population most of whom they had never met before, it's a study into human psychology and not a study into what can be done better next time. The reason what I just said doesn't make much sense is because for the most part neither does the experiment, the German population was largely unaware of the actual Holocaust as before the war Hitler's initial plan was to relocate all the Jews outside of Germany, all who did know were those actually in the Nazi party. Hitler and his party were able to convince the German people to despise the Jewish through manipulative propaganda and speeches. As for an example, gobbles convinced millions of Germans at the Sportpalast speech to support Germany's full conversion into total war. Humans are hardwired to group think, out of hundreds of University students in that room it's statistically impossible that at least one of them didn't have sufficient leadership skills. You also can't teach individual leadership skills since that relies heavily on intelligence, which stabilizes at around 7 and is for the most part genetic. What this study can help us do is understand more about humans and why they think the way they do, but that is all it can do
If some participants were "bullied" into completing the study, rather than be a criticism of the study this would seem to only reinforce conclusion of the tendency of people to submit to the power of an "authority" even in defiance of their own ethics.
Thank you SOOO much because honestly my teacher gave us the original documentary video to watch for homework and it was so boring and long, it all showed the individual participants doing the experiment start to finish. The language was harder to understand and the video itself was boring. This video on the other hand was visually enticing and explained in simple English with reference to all the applications to real life and also the problems with the experiment. Again, thank you SOOOOOO MUCH for this video- it’s been a real help for me to understand Milgram’s experiment/ research
Milgram was not oblivious to the psychological needs of his participants and was aware of the potential harm caused by the study. Immediately after the study, its true purpose was revealed to the participants. They were interviewed and given questionnaires to check they were all right. A friendly reconciliation was also arranged with the ‘victim’ whom they thought they had shocked. This procedure, known as debriefing, is commonplace today, but this was not the case in the 1960s. So, in this respect at least, Milgram was ahead of the game in terms of ethics procedures (Blass, 2004). Milgram also conducted a follow-up survey of the participants one year after the study, to ensure that there was no long-term harm (Colman, 1987). The results showed that 84 per cent said they were ‘glad to have been in the experiment’, and only 1.3 per cent said they were very sorry to have taken part. Milgram also described how the participants had been examined by a psychiatrist who was unable to find a single participant who showed signs of long-term harm. Morris Braverman, a 39-year-old social worker, was one of the participants in Milgram’s experiment who continued to give shocks until the maximum was reached. He claimed, when interviewed a year after the experiment, that he had learned something of personal importance as a result of being in the experiment. His wife said, with reference to his willingness to obey orders, ‘You can call yourself an Eichmann’ (Milgram, 1974, p. 54). I started with the belief that every person who came to the laboratory was free to accept or to reject the dictates of authority. This view sustains a conception of human dignity insofar as it sees in each man a capacity for choosing his own behavior. (Milgram, 1964, p. 851 At the time of Milgram’s study, his research was investigated by the ethics committee of the American Psychological Association, who eventually came to the conclusion that it was ethically acceptable. Notably, however, Milgram’s studies could not be carried out today, as the ethics guidelines have become more restrictive since the 1960s Also there were female studies conducted, and several variations, Milgram clearly wanted the variables as strict as possible for each round of testing to gather concise results. ''Milgram himself addressed the gender issue by carrying out a study identical to the original one, but with female participants. He found that women were as likely to administer electric shocks as men''
True. Some of the follow up assertions about the Milgram Experiment repeated in this overview were proven to be false. (Such as the statement that the experiment only involved PAID participants - Milgram proceeded with a follow up Control study where the participants were NOT paid a token fee, and were completely volunteers, the end results were statistically the same.) Also this short animation does NOT correctly show that the "Experimenter"(Another Actor) was purposefully dressed in a Lab Coat holding a clipboard, which gave them a "Uniform" of AUTHORITY. The whole point of the experiment was to see how far people would go to be OBEDIENT to an AUTHORITY. This Animation is deceptive in Not showing THAT. And the "Teachers" were NOT "Bullied" into giving the higher shocks. The "Experimenter" had specific phrases to use at three levels of refusal, each phrase indicated just Authority, and that the "Teacher" had no choice but to continue. The Subjects "Bullied" themselves, because they did not wish to Disobey the "authority"!
Experiments as such, have been disproved and declared unscientific due to premeditated resaults. You can find evidence to confirm any theory if you try hard enough, but is it really helpful to convince the world that people's actions are only relied on the situations? Victor Frankl, a neurologist that survived concentration camps, has said that people have the autority to be self-defined in any situation. If anyone wants to see the debunking of such theories, read Rutger Bregman's "Humankind"
@@Captain1065 So by your logic most of the German population in WW2 was either to stupid to think for themselves or just straight up evil? Makes no sense. Situations influence a lot if not the majority of your actions. Imagine being lost in a forest with a someone else. He dies, you don't. You're starving to death. But you're not a cannibal right? Or, are you? The chances that at that point you will do it even though you know its "bad" is pretty high.
@@Captain1065 Frankl solely explains that we all have the possibility to choose in any situation. Milgram, in that sense, proves that humans freely choose to obey and be submissive instead of taking action.
Really appreciate the effort put in the video, it's much easier to follow along, and make notes with this than of from the textbooks. Although I will be reading the text later, this saves time, and makes it easier to study. I hope there are many more experiments in psychology in this channel!
I’m glad he never told a lot of those people that they were actors. It probably gave them a lot of perspective and taught them to be more considerate of the person next to you. I think of the same experiment were conducted today more people would’ve delivered the strongest shock. Most people today follow one ideology or the other without question
@@Zoinks3245I'm afraid the lesson of the experiment went wayyyy over your head. Do you think people's feelings are more important than discovering how a society can be manipulated into killing millions of people because they don't agree with the government? I'm going to go out on a ledge and guess that you think words physically hurt people.... 😂😂
It shows that 65% of the people act like sheep following what ever order is given. The distance them selves by saying "I was just following orders. It was not I who killed but the person who told me to kill that did it." Also, people want to do what ever the group is doing regardless of right or wrong.
For many, it is simply a question being in a situation under which they can point elsewhere, at a superior, or the old "just following orders"-line. The results would be a lit different without the "teacher", and if the person had a free choice to administer a shock, or not.
Let me correct the narrator, this study was not about the propensity to commit violence, it was about the responsiveness to obedience. Obedience then leads to violence is the main point, this is a very important distinction.
👏classical experiment anybody studying psychology should know about! For me, absolutely not I can think for myself, but it would be interesting the results with participants being Coerced to move forward versus suggested🤔
This is why people should know not to become sheep or becoming a follower - I know what it's like to search for a group to follow or need a place to belong but we need need to understand the difference between compliance and obedience and it is okay to say no and just walk away ( well unless they pull a gun to your head) its all about your will and mentality. Everyone says the crown of leadership is heavy burden as well - you are human too. Make an informed decision
Not as depressing as it first appears. 18 variations of the test showed that it didn't take much to reduce compliance to 10% instead of 67%. In particular, seeing someone else resist authority, which is why they need censorship and repression of dissenting voices.
This study was all about situationism! The purpose was of course to prove that, in a certain context on constrain, of coercion people will follow the orders although they seem to be totally disproportionate... You can also check the video of the experiment itself... It very clearly illustrates the context
Modern physiologists complained the study wasn’t effective because participants were coerced and bullied into delivering the shocks? Wasn’t that kind of like…the whole point tho?
What do u mean “ at which point they had no choice to continue” they littersly had every choice to stop. It’s called taking personal responsibility for your OWN actions
I know there was a female version of this experiment as well, but I wonder if a mixed gender will give a different result. Say a male teacher x female learner and vice versa. How about relationship? Once paired, give the participant time to mingle with their learner. What if the only way a learner gets to miss a shock is by the teacher taking their place? How many teachers are willing to step up for the learner? Will one feel less guilt if the learner was someone that loathed?
One could argue that not telling participants about actor involvement leads to more authenticity and therefore reliability. The problem with moralistic judgement is that it’s subjective. Morals cannot be judged objectively. There are atrocities throughout history that would not have occurred had objectivity in morality been possible, particularly on a collective basis.
Doesn't matters ppl still did it as long as some fellow in a coat says pls proceed. And it's the obedience that makes gives dictator power , while the one who disobey doesn't do anything to those that does.
I saw the movie years ago and thought it was super interesting but the movie must not be accurate because it had 1/2 the participants as females but you said it was all males. But also I don't think this is entirely unethical if it's explained to the participants at the end that it's just a study. I'm not sure why they let these people believe they did horrible things or coerced them to continue. In the movie they just have a guy who always repeats the phrase "please continue" whenever the participants object or show concern. So after watching the movie, the severity was played down and makes me think it's an ethical experiment but I don't know all the facts so idk anymore
For me I wouldn't follow orders if I knew I was causing someone immense pain or risking their life, but at the same time it depends on the circumstance. If my life is being threatened or my families lives were, I'd follow orders. If I was told that I would take their place if I didn't follow orders, I'd probably follow orders. Especially if I saw all the pain it was causing them.
Wrong information. Milgram did experiments involving women as subjects, and the obidience level was as high as men. Milgram actually performed several variations of the experiment and understanding his obedience theory is not possible without exploring all the variations.
This experiment proved, that 2/3 of population are able to do horrible things if ordered by authority. Luckily I'm from the 1/3 of population, that does not need the order.
This study makes sense for money because of his original idea with WW2. The individual’s participation in what happened was compensated because they where in the military, plus the fear of disobeying orders. There isnt a “Ethical” way to hold this style study because its already at the roots unethical.
For sure, but give the new models a try. They developed a groundbreaking technology that doesn't deliberately fatally target your peers. You know, like all the previous ones did.
For myself. I would be prone to give the maximum shock if encouraged to do so. I know myself and that is my nature. I would not actually do it however because of my religious beliefs. Good religion makes better people and a better society
well depends on situation if I would get paid why not I don't care it's maybe weird but I wouldn't feel remorse but if I they would just ask me if I would like to try experiment or something like that I don't know what they told them to make them work with them in this experiment but If I would have reason of course you need to calculate what could happen how you benefit from that etc... I would probably do that but not bcs he told me and iam scared of him so I do that I would do that if I would benefit from that or if I would be bored and this could give me new expirience that's my opinion how I see that. Also sorry for my English but it's not my main language but iam pretty sure it's understandable
The idea that he didn't tell anyone AFTER the experiment was over, that it was an actor, is pretty messed up. The fact if he had done that, I don't see any problem with this experiment because it doesn't actually hurt anyone. Just give good data. The only people that got hurt during this were the ones that psychologically got hurt because no one told them that they didn't commit a horrific act.
Would you give someone a deadly electricshock - No, would you follow orders just to commit a violent crime against an innocent person if someone told you to - No, or what about would you support an unjust cause just because someone told you to - No. Дали експеримента е приложим и когато някой цъка видео игри - има някои сходства, измислени авторитети ти дават мисии???
Of course NO ONE BELIEVES they would participate in a study like this, and just trust the doctors word over the clear distress of another human being. I agree, I'd hope women in general would more likely refuse.
I wouldn't be surprised if a higher percentage of women administered the higher shocks. If you think about how women were conditioned during war to shame men as cowards who didn't go or dodged the draft regardless of the reason, it's pretty clear women can be just as callous if society at large approves of it.
The fact that they excluded a whole demographic (WOMEN) which constitutes close to half of the human population means the study is very flawed Secondly the participants all entered an unknown study for money not everyone would enter into an unknown program for money.
It was WOMEN who were shown to be the highest level of shocks, they stuck it out with the puppies. SO, WOMEN ARENT AS INNOCENT as this generation are led to believe.
You should read Rutger Bregman's Humankind though, he said that the participants were hesitant but most kept on going because they thought & believed that it was an science experiment that could help humanity.
This experiment was later repeated with a experimenter WITHOUT a lab coat! And it showed that people much earlier refused to continue. We where teached to follow orders from "authorities" in lab coats or uniforms. Since I was a kid I was always suspicious about authorities and always asked : "WHY"? If the given answer would not be satisfying or seemingly not logic to me I always refused. Thinking "out of the box" caused me a lot of problems. But I stll thinking for myself was my best way of living my life. Have to explain : my Dad was a "Nazi believer" until his death with age 84. And I hated it. Because I know the whole story what happened back in the days in Germany from different sides, viewpoints and eyewitnesses.
It is false that he did not include woman. He did include woman in his studies and found similar results. He did question if he replicated the study having woman in other roles (Authority or learner) if he would have different results. The shame is we will never know, but I do wonder having woman in the learner would cause people to exit the study much quicker.
Good point. In my view, women would be more cruel and more prone to following orders, and men would be less cruel to women and not follow orders so easily against women. There's a moral aspect. Intelligence and inner strength/courage/independence in thinking would select for greater rebelliousness to commands lacking conscience. And that is probably the greater moral aspect being measured.
You said that a reason to disqualify the experiment is that all the participants were payed… How much? If you say that you must tell how much, don’t you think? Also, the ending question, it’s a wrong formulated question, as you are trying to show that that was the question the participants were facing off, but no, it’s very different, probably if you would have asked them after torturing that man, they would have said they would never do something like that, not even for a lot money.
He should have experimented on Gas instead of electricity , yk, put the actor in a room and inject gas(fake) as the experiment goes on. That must have given the psychologist some peace of mind.
Could the BLM movement be an example of this, because some cops believed those protesting were in the right but put aside their believes in order to follow authority rules?
I think the point that’s being missed is that individuals will do totally illogical things based on perceived authority. A perfect example is wearing masks to stop c-19. Most understand measurements and the difference of 1.25 micron and 5 micron. With the latter being the filtration of a N95 mask and c-19 measuring 1.25 micro. Yet many will comply with perceived authority knowing logically it makes no sense.
I don't wear a mask because I think it's going to block out every 1.25 micron virus floating around me. I wear it because it's a public health measure, meaning if a significant percent of the population wear it, the odds of everyone getting it comes down. Say the fibre mesh of the mask reduces my chance of getting Covid by 25% (the actual data suggests somewhere between 50-70%) this reduces the probability of me transmitting it. Multiply this by the masked population, and you can hypothetically bring the r value of the virus to below 1, meaning it dies out. It's kind of like paying your taxes... Your contribution alone makes pretty much no difference, but the only reason society continues to function is because everyone pays their bit. The science is sound. If you don't wear a mask out of some misplaced sense of intellectual superiority, please give it a second thought.
@@justmemyselfandi7760 , double blind scientific research shows there is no difference when wearing masks. You are just making up excuses why you obey.
How is his study that controversial? Maybe because it's about the dangers of following authority. My life is an experiment that should be considered way more controversial.
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Yup that is true , and i constatly struggle to do that . I'm emotionally weak 😭😭
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This study is a great example of why we need to beware of “group think.” It is also important to teach individuality and leadership to kids starting from young, so they grow up into adults who know how to think for themselves.
Thank you! I knew I wasn’t being difficult.
The Milgram Experiment was a fraud, though.
I would partially agree. While group think can be dangerous, there's a difference between groupthink and collective action. Individuality and leadership skills can be important to maintain one's autonomy, but our society takes it to an extreme level of hyper individualism where all of your successes are your own, but all of your shortcomings are your own fault. When it comes to companies, specifically workers, group think and collective action can be a mighty weapon against oppressive corporations
I ❤ the inclusive animations
I know I'm way late but this is wrong, this study was actually done to find out the reason behind German citizens willingness to remove(exterminate) Jewish population most of whom they had never met before, it's a study into human psychology and not a study into what can be done better next time. The reason what I just said doesn't make much sense is because for the most part neither does the experiment, the German population was largely unaware of the actual Holocaust as before the war Hitler's initial plan was to relocate all the Jews outside of Germany, all who did know were those actually in the Nazi party. Hitler and his party were able to convince the German people to despise the Jewish through manipulative propaganda and speeches. As for an example, gobbles convinced millions of Germans at the Sportpalast speech to support Germany's full conversion into total war. Humans are hardwired to group think, out of hundreds of University students in that room it's statistically impossible that at least one of them didn't have sufficient leadership skills. You also can't teach individual leadership skills since that relies heavily on intelligence, which stabilizes at around 7 and is for the most part genetic. What this study can help us do is understand more about humans and why they think the way they do, but that is all it can do
If some participants were "bullied" into completing the study, rather than be a criticism of the study this would seem to only reinforce conclusion of the tendency of people to submit to the power of an "authority" even in defiance of their own ethics.
Thank you SOOO much because honestly my teacher gave us the original documentary video to watch for homework and it was so boring and long, it all showed the individual participants doing the experiment start to finish. The language was harder to understand and the video itself was boring.
This video on the other hand was visually enticing and explained in simple English with reference to all the applications to real life and also the problems with the experiment.
Again, thank you SOOOOOO MUCH for this video- it’s been a real help for me to understand Milgram’s experiment/ research
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Milgram was not oblivious to the psychological needs
of his participants and was aware of the potential harm caused by the
study. Immediately after the study, its true purpose was revealed to the
participants. They were interviewed and given questionnaires to check
they were all right. A friendly reconciliation was also arranged with the
‘victim’ whom they thought they had shocked. This procedure, known
as debriefing, is commonplace today, but this was not the case in
the 1960s. So, in this respect at least, Milgram was ahead of the game in
terms of ethics procedures (Blass, 2004).
Milgram also conducted a follow-up survey of the participants one year
after the study, to ensure that there was no long-term harm
(Colman, 1987). The results showed that 84 per cent said they were
‘glad to have been in the experiment’, and only 1.3 per cent said they
were very sorry to have taken part. Milgram also described how the
participants had been examined by a psychiatrist who was unable to find
a single participant who showed signs of long-term harm. Morris
Braverman, a 39-year-old social worker, was one of the participants in
Milgram’s experiment who continued to give shocks until the maximum
was reached. He claimed, when interviewed a year after the experiment,
that he had learned something of personal importance as a result of
being in the experiment. His wife said, with reference to his willingness
to obey orders, ‘You can call yourself an Eichmann’ (Milgram, 1974,
p. 54).
I started with the belief that every person who came to the
laboratory was free to accept or to reject the dictates of authority.
This view sustains a conception of human dignity insofar as it sees
in each man a capacity for choosing his own behavior.
(Milgram, 1964, p. 851
At the time of Milgram’s study, his research was
investigated by the ethics committee of the American Psychological
Association, who eventually came to the conclusion that it was ethically
acceptable. Notably, however, Milgram’s studies could not be carried out
today, as the ethics guidelines have become more restrictive since
the 1960s
Also there were female studies conducted, and several variations, Milgram clearly wanted the variables as strict as possible for each round of testing to gather concise results.
''Milgram himself addressed the gender issue by carrying out a
study identical to the original one, but with female participants. He
found that women were as likely to administer electric shocks as men''
Josh Graham - Appreciate the follow-up.
What are your sources Josh, I think this is interesting- fascinating!
True. Some of the follow up assertions about the Milgram Experiment repeated in this overview were proven to be false. (Such as the statement that the experiment only involved PAID participants - Milgram proceeded with a follow up Control study where the participants were NOT paid a token fee, and were completely volunteers, the end results were statistically the same.) Also this short animation does NOT correctly show that the "Experimenter"(Another Actor) was purposefully dressed in a Lab Coat holding a clipboard, which gave them a "Uniform" of AUTHORITY. The whole point of the experiment was to see how far people would go to be OBEDIENT to an AUTHORITY. This Animation is deceptive in Not showing THAT. And the "Teachers" were NOT "Bullied" into giving the higher shocks. The "Experimenter" had specific phrases to use at three levels of refusal, each phrase indicated just Authority, and that the "Teacher" had no choice but to continue. The Subjects "Bullied" themselves, because they did not wish to Disobey the "authority"!
Ya nice what is the source
I think he was part of the experiment
“It is not so much the kind of person a man is as the kind of situation in which he finds himself that determines how he will act.”
― Stanley Milgram
Experiments as such, have been disproved and declared unscientific due to premeditated resaults. You can find evidence to confirm any theory if you try hard enough, but is it really helpful to convince the world that people's actions are only relied on the situations? Victor Frankl, a neurologist that survived concentration camps, has said that people have the autority to be self-defined in any situation. If anyone wants to see the debunking of such theories, read Rutger Bregman's "Humankind"
@@Captain1065 science explain the reality, the Milgram’s theory explains reality. Frankl, doesn’t.
@@Captain1065 So by your logic most of the German population in WW2 was either to stupid to think for themselves or just straight up evil? Makes no sense. Situations influence a lot if not the majority of your actions.
Imagine being lost in a forest with a someone else. He dies, you don't. You're starving to death. But you're not a cannibal right? Or, are you? The chances that at that point you will do it even though you know its "bad" is pretty high.
Milgram was a fraud.
@@Captain1065 Frankl solely explains that we all have the possibility to choose in any situation. Milgram, in that sense, proves that humans freely choose to obey and be submissive instead of taking action.
This is so much more relevant after COVID
Really appreciate the effort put in the video, it's much easier to follow along, and make notes with this than of from the textbooks. Although I will be reading the text later, this saves time, and makes it easier to study. I hope there are many more experiments in psychology in this channel!
This was so helpful! Currently studying this experiment in psych class and it didn't make much sense until after I watched this video. Thanks a ton!
I'm not sure how the lesson of this experiment would be difficult to comprehended. Please explain further what you mean.
The last two years is a great example of this
I’m glad he never told a lot of those people that they were actors. It probably gave them a lot of perspective and taught them to be more considerate of the person next to you. I think of the same experiment were conducted today more people would’ve delivered the strongest shock. Most people today follow one ideology or the other without question
? "Yes let's make someone believe they just committed homicide so they can learn a valuable lesson" 🤣
@@Zoinks3245I'm afraid the lesson of the experiment went wayyyy over your head. Do you think people's feelings are more important than discovering how a society can be manipulated into killing millions of people because they don't agree with the government? I'm going to go out on a ledge and guess that you think words physically hurt people.... 😂😂
@@Spark-In-The-Darkno, no I think the word “morality” goes over your head. Thats literally the definition of “it’s just a prank bro”
It shows that 65% of the people act like sheep following what ever order is given. The distance them selves by saying "I was just following orders. It was not I who killed but the person who told me to kill that did it." Also, people want to do what ever the group is doing regardless of right or wrong.
I think that some actually enjoyed pushing those levers.
For many, it is simply a question being in a situation under which they can point elsewhere, at a superior, or the old "just following orders"-line.
The results would be a lit different without the "teacher", and if the person had a free choice to administer a shock, or not.
Can you please make a video on the Schacter's Self Attribution theory of Emotion? Would be really helpful. Thank you 👍
Let me correct the narrator, this study was not about the propensity to commit violence, it was about the responsiveness to obedience. Obedience then leads to violence is the main point, this is a very important distinction.
The study points out the difference between weak and strong.
Blind obedience is violence,
To self,
And sometimes others..
This helps explain people's unquestioning obedience to authoritative figures.
👏classical experiment anybody studying psychology should know about! For me, absolutely not I can think for myself, but it would be interesting the results with participants being Coerced to move forward versus suggested🤔
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What do you think?
I have a psychology paper due tomorrow. I'm gonna write about the milgram shock experiment and quote this video. Will see what my teacher says lol
Your teacher : what is this ?
You: yes
So tell us what did your teacher say ?
@@Nobody-fy7tw I am his teacher and I said good job
@@Nobody-fy7tw i am his Father, I said great job
your chanell's been helping me to learn for my entrance exams for University , thaanks!!!
This is why people should know not to become sheep or becoming a follower - I know what it's like to search for a group to follow or need a place to belong but we need need to understand the difference between compliance and obedience and it is okay to say no and just walk away ( well unless they pull a gun to your head) its all about your will and mentality. Everyone says the crown of leadership is heavy burden as well - you are human too. Make an informed decision
Not as depressing as it first appears. 18 variations of the test showed that it didn't take much to reduce compliance to 10% instead of 67%. In particular, seeing someone else resist authority, which is why they need censorship and repression of dissenting voices.
True. Sometimes all you need is to see someone else resist to join them.
This study was all about situationism! The purpose was of course to prove that, in a certain context on constrain, of coercion people will follow the orders although they seem to be totally disproportionate... You can also check the video of the experiment itself... It very clearly illustrates the context
Wheres the video of the experiment?
Modern physiologists complained the study wasn’t effective because participants were coerced and bullied into delivering the shocks?
Wasn’t that kind of like…the whole point tho?
What great video! Thanks for your effort. Please create more like this!!!
ur helping me not fail thanks bro ;)
What do u mean “ at which point they had no choice to continue” they littersly had every choice to stop. It’s called taking personal responsibility for your OWN actions
Sadly, the Netflix documentary "do not pick up the phone" is basically the Milgram experiment in a real sick way.
Your voice is soo good!
I know there was a female version of this experiment as well, but I wonder if a mixed gender will give a different result. Say a male teacher x female learner and vice versa.
How about relationship? Once paired, give the participant time to mingle with their learner.
What if the only way a learner gets to miss a shock is by the teacher taking their place? How many teachers are willing to step up for the learner?
Will one feel less guilt if the learner was someone that loathed?
Nice repercussions! Could be considered but I dont want this to happen anyway.
There are female dictatorships either
What was the whole purpose of the experiment, and what can we learn from it?
This vid really help me. Thanks!
1:00 I see no Hitler, only Fascist Ferb.
LMFAOAOA
One could argue that not telling participants about actor involvement leads to more authenticity and therefore reliability.
The problem with moralistic judgement is that it’s subjective.
Morals cannot be judged objectively. There are atrocities throughout history that would not have occurred had objectivity in morality been possible, particularly on a collective basis.
Doesn't matters ppl still did it as long as some fellow in a coat says pls proceed.
And it's the obedience that makes gives dictator power , while the one who disobey doesn't do anything to those that does.
I saw the movie years ago and thought it was super interesting but the movie must not be accurate because it had 1/2 the participants as females but you said it was all males. But also I don't think this is entirely unethical if it's explained to the participants at the end that it's just a study. I'm not sure why they let these people believe they did horrible things or coerced them to continue. In the movie they just have a guy who always repeats the phrase "please continue" whenever the participants object or show concern. So after watching the movie, the severity was played down and makes me think it's an ethical experiment but I don't know all the facts so idk anymore
Great video. Thanks
very nice!
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Why I didn't enlist in the military
Just imagine the possibility that many of the participants probably realised it was all an act.
For me I wouldn't follow orders if I knew I was causing someone immense pain or risking their life, but at the same time it depends on the circumstance. If my life is being threatened or my families lives were, I'd follow orders. If I was told that I would take their place if I didn't follow orders, I'd probably follow orders. Especially if I saw all the pain it was causing them.
What happens when you combine the Milgram and Stanford experiment? Me.
3:28 Ahhhh, my favorite type of movies!
Its one way to know Tht should we act accordingly to the government even if it isn’t ethical or right to do!
Wrong information. Milgram did experiments involving women as subjects, and the obidience level was as high as men. Milgram actually performed several variations of the experiment and understanding his obedience theory is not possible without exploring all the variations.
who came here to watch the video after watching Classroom of the elite season 2 episode 3
I was looking for this comment
In the light novel this experiment is explained,while in the anime is only mentioned
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This experiment proved, that 2/3 of population are able to do horrible things if ordered by authority. Luckily I'm from the 1/3 of population, that does not need the order.
This study makes sense for money because of his original idea with WW2. The individual’s participation in what happened was compensated because they where in the military, plus the fear of disobeying orders. There isnt a “Ethical” way to hold this style study because its already at the roots unethical.
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how to reduce the destructive obedience. suggest some steps
Insert analogy about masks here
For sure, but give the new models a try. They developed a groundbreaking technology that doesn't deliberately fatally target your peers. You know, like all the previous ones did.
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Critical thinking is becoming less and less...its sad
this study eksperimen milgram is the best
How do you witness the atrocities, from thousands of miles away?
He must have caught some of the broadcasts that's all I can think. Am used to bounce like a bad boy even back in the '90s.
'Safe and Effective'
Safe and secure? But yeah very effective.
Not PHYSICALLY harmed in the study! God, I’d be traumatized! 🤭
I'm wondering what those others studies were called. He didn't mention it.
For myself. I would be prone to give the maximum shock if encouraged to do so. I know myself and that is my nature. I would not actually do it however because of my religious beliefs. Good religion makes better people and a better society
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well depends on situation if I would get paid why not I don't care it's maybe weird but I wouldn't feel remorse but if I they would just ask me if I would like to try experiment or something like that I don't know what they told them to make them work with them in this experiment but If I would have reason of course you need to calculate what could happen how you benefit from that etc... I would probably do that but not bcs he told me and iam scared of him so I do that I would do that if I would benefit from that or if I would be bored and this could give me new expirience that's my opinion how I see that.
Also sorry for my English but it's not my main language but iam pretty sure it's understandable
Who else came from the TED show?
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@@alokkomora2751 hell yeah
They just did it on a mass scale
The idea that he didn't tell anyone AFTER the experiment was over, that it was an actor, is pretty messed up. The fact if he had done that, I don't see any problem with this experiment because it doesn't actually hurt anyone. Just give good data. The only people that got hurt during this were the ones that psychologically got hurt because no one told them that they didn't commit a horrific act.
Great!
Problem is with someone like me I would immediately use the highest shock level and figure out it was staged.
What is the aim of the stufy?
Study*
I heard they did an experiment already with women, and found they were way more likely to just follow rules
Would you give someone a deadly electricshock - No, would you follow orders just to commit a violent crime against an innocent person if someone told you to - No, or what about would you support an unjust cause just because someone told you to - No.
Дали експеримента е приложим и когато някой цъка видео игри - има някои сходства, измислени авторитети ти дават мисии???
Of course NO ONE BELIEVES they would participate in a study like this, and just trust the doctors word over the clear distress of another human being. I agree, I'd hope women in general would more likely refuse.
I wouldn't be surprised if a higher percentage of women administered the higher shocks. If you think about how women were conditioned during war to shame men as cowards who didn't go or dodged the draft regardless of the reason, it's pretty clear women can be just as callous if society at large approves of it.
The fact that they excluded a whole demographic (WOMEN) which constitutes close to half of the human population means the study is very flawed
Secondly the participants all entered an unknown study for money not everyone would enter into an unknown program for money.
I would use real shocks so nobody is upset if they find out they have been concerned for nothing. 😂
Coerced and bullied and incentivized..... Kind of seams like today's mandates.....
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This is why most people need to choose veganism 🌱
"Just doing my job"
It was WOMEN who were shown to be the highest level of shocks, they stuck it out with the puppies. SO, WOMEN ARENT AS INNOCENT as this generation are led to believe.
the experiment was replicated with women and the results were similar
I always talk about this experiment when people tell me that humans are inherently good, which is evidently not true.
You should read Rutger Bregman's Humankind though, he said that the participants were hesitant but most kept on going because they thought & believed that it was an science experiment that could help humanity.
@@semilysfairy4670 the road to hell is paved with good intentions
@@semilysfairy4670 denying your darkness, feels good doesn’t it?
This experiment was later repeated with a experimenter WITHOUT a lab coat! And it showed that people much earlier refused to continue. We where teached to follow orders from "authorities" in lab coats or uniforms.
Since I was a kid I was always suspicious about authorities and always asked : "WHY"? If the given answer would not be satisfying or seemingly not logic to me I always refused.
Thinking "out of the box" caused me a lot of problems. But I stll thinking for myself was my best way of living my life.
Have to explain : my Dad was a "Nazi believer" until his death with age 84.
And I hated it. Because I know the whole story what happened back in the days in Germany from different sides, viewpoints and eyewitnesses.
It is false that he did not include woman. He did include woman in his studies and found similar results. He did question if he replicated the study having woman in other roles (Authority or learner) if he would have different results. The shame is we will never know, but I do wonder having woman in the learner would cause people to exit the study much quicker.
Good point. In my view, women would be more cruel and more prone to following orders, and men would be less cruel to women and not follow orders so easily against women. There's a moral aspect.
Intelligence and inner strength/courage/independence in thinking would select for greater rebelliousness to commands lacking conscience. And that is probably the greater moral aspect being measured.
Information in this video is incorrect. Watch the experiment for yourself and you'll easily see.
You said that a reason to disqualify the experiment is that all the participants were payed… How much? If you say that you must tell how much, don’t you think? Also, the ending question, it’s a wrong formulated question, as you are trying to show that that was the question the participants were facing off, but no, it’s very different, probably if you would have asked them after torturing that man, they would have said they would never do something like that, not even for a lot money.
I wonder how many willingly went to the end? Id like to know the likely percentage of psychopaths out there...
Do this experiment now with Republicans and Democrats. I’m sure we’d be alarmed on both sides.
He should have experimented on Gas instead of electricity , yk, put the actor in a room and inject gas(fake) as the experiment goes on. That must have given the psychologist some peace of mind.
Is it known what happened to the participants: suicides, murderers. Never release the names of participants.
Ahhh, so THAT'S what has been happening these past few years. Huh
Could the BLM movement be an example of this, because some cops believed those protesting were in the right but put aside their believes in order to follow authority rules?
Yh, that would make sense. But that’s based on moral obligation rather than verbal instructions.
Authority driven
Anyone scoring over 104 on the IQ test does not qualify for a job in law enforcement.
"over 30 years ago" while technically correct, you could have just said "over one year ago" XD
I think the point that’s being missed is that individuals will do totally illogical things based on perceived authority. A perfect example is wearing masks to stop c-19. Most understand measurements and the difference of 1.25 micron and 5 micron. With the latter being the filtration of a N95 mask and c-19 measuring 1.25 micro. Yet many will comply with perceived authority knowing logically it makes no sense.
I don't wear a mask because I think it's going to block out every 1.25 micron virus floating around me. I wear it because it's a public health measure, meaning if a significant percent of the population wear it, the odds of everyone getting it comes down.
Say the fibre mesh of the mask reduces my chance of getting Covid by 25% (the actual data suggests somewhere between 50-70%) this reduces the probability of me transmitting it. Multiply this by the masked population, and you can hypothetically bring the r value of the virus to below 1, meaning it dies out.
It's kind of like paying your taxes... Your contribution alone makes pretty much no difference, but the only reason society continues to function is because everyone pays their bit.
The science is sound. If you don't wear a mask out of some misplaced sense of intellectual superiority, please give it a second thought.
@@justmemyselfandi7760 , double blind scientific research shows there is no difference when wearing masks. You are just making up excuses why you obey.
putting folks in gas chambers too
AI will see this and realize you don't need robots to control the world
Outlawed. Love. Red Pill. Matrix Crew. Trinity and Neo.
How is his study that controversial? Maybe because it's about the dangers of following authority. My life is an experiment that should be considered way more controversial.
Could you please share these slides???
If it is mentioned in YT Germany all Artikels get deleted
The 67% are an interesting facet of human life.
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this proves the old saying . almost all humanity are sheep . they follow the shepherd who could be good or evil and they are rare
Pay close attention, law enforcement.