Every 4Runner review video: Dated, antiquated tech, missing features that are standard on every other car, terrible gas mileage, unchanged looks Also every 4Runner review video: Reliable af, capable af even stock, classic and timeless styling. Always the same thing but I love watching these review videos because it reminds me I made the right choice hahah
So true, and yet Toyota still sells 100,000 unit every year.... 150,000 units were sold in 2021....135,000 in 2021.... 0ver 100,000 so far in 2022..... so all the opinions of RUclipsrs are irrelevant
People buy this because of the MPI 4 liter and the 5 speed auto. Bullet proof and still made in Japan. When you look at the Mexican made tacos and some of the issues they have had over the years this model is none of that. This is the most reliable toy one can buy. People don't care how old it might be. Its legendary at this point and I'm sure Toyota is a bit uneasy about replacing it. And IMO, as long as sales are what they are they should never replace it.
Really good video, as an owner of a 2016 trail with KDSS I've never been so happy with a vehicle than the 4runner, you hit the nail on the head when you called it a Swiss army knife, she will do almost anything you ask of it and without giving you trouble, I've overland with it and it's my daily driver, couldn't imagine having anything else. Keep up the good work.
As you know, Ryan, I have been watching these videos for a few years and I am amazed that they keep getting better and better. I think one of the best parts of this video is when you (almost) buried the Toyota in the self-made course. I especially liked when you said: "Ooof, ooof... I love this course!" I also appreciate how you utilize situations in which the everyday (normal) person who may want an adventure know what to look out for. Another part of these videos I like is that you espouse the good and the bad. You are not selling the car, but enabling the public to understand that thos (or that) car may not be for them. Excellent. Have you ever thought about doing a Top 10 of the vehicles and how they perform on your courses?
Love it.. I really hope they stay true to the utilitarian design with the new version whenever t arrives. And I personally think the old school headliner material looks more quality than the stuff they use in the Rav4. The MTS rocks and the crawl control rocks too !
They are keeping it based off the platform that the Land Cruiser Prado and Lexus GX use, so it will be very utilitarian, but be modernized, though I hope not too much.. I love the simplicity of my 4Runner
The headliner may "look" outdated but its so thick and sturdy like everything else on the 4runner. The new stuff may look "updated" but its thin and cheap.
I don't do off-road at all but I haul lots of weight consistently with my vehicle, so I need biggest possible cargo space plus real world payload capability. After broke 3 suspensions of my Sienna (which has 1300lbs payload) I switched to 4runner(880lb payload on paper), what a difference between unibody and real body on frame, numbers don't matter AT ALL. Now I am on my third Runner.
Every parts of this rig is solid and has been refined years after years. The more you know about this car the more you understand why it can last for so long.
Call me old fashioned but I haven't owned a "modern" car or truck. These complaints about screen size seem spoiled. You don't like the headliner it's an old design? What? I haven't listened to the radio in my truck for years. I don't need to be artificially stimulated every step of my day either. I constantly see people with a phone in their face 24/7. I'm sitting there seeing all the zombies in the waiting room detached from reality staring into an empty rectangle. Old school tech is just fine for me it still works.
I've talk to a few people I know that recently got 4Runners even though this generation is on it's way out. Most of them came from Jeeps and they said a Jeep cost so much to keep on the road, they just couldn't keep paying for wheel bearings and suspension components every 30k miles.
My 85 runner , manual tranny and a solid front axle. Didn't need any high tech stuff. Put that thing in low range and it would crawl up and down and over everything. Vastly superior vehicle, an army tank . Reliable as the sunrise and not unbearably uncomfortable on the highway, wish I still had that sweet thing.
If these had more 3rd row and trunk space we'd have one today. This was the only vehicle my Wife and I seriously considered when shopping for a new vehicle. We ended up with a 2023 Subaru Ascent instead. For a family of 6 though it just didn't have the seat/cargo space for us...which is unfortunate. 4Runners are awesome.
My family of 5 plus 2 dogs just had the same decision, 4Runner was what I really wanted, but went with the Ascent. We are very comfortable in it and don't regret it at all, but I will have my 4Runner some day...
Ryan, We were wondering when you would cave in to the pressure and finally give us another 4Runner review 😉It was a relief to see the trees on this new course behaved so much better than that delinquent Ponderosa Pine 🌲that viciously attacked your personal 4Runner last year. To the subscribers, how many would prefer a Prado to a 4Runner? 🤔
I love the fact they haven’t changed it for 13 years. Reminds me of the 70 series that’s been around since mid 80’s. Can still buy it new in some parts of the world.
Imo, they need to put a just new interior in it and not touch the exterior, it looks like an old off roader and I prefer that look to most of the new ones
Some parts of the world? The 70-series is sold in more countries than where it is not sold in. It's pretty much only not sold in North America and EU. But unlike in the US or Canada you can legally import a new 70-series in the EU if one wishes to.
I agree with the Tacoma vs 4Runner comment. I have both in 21 model years and both are off roads with the 4runner being a premium. Every time I drive the 4Runner after the Tacoma I noticed how much smoother the transmission shifts and how much better I like the lower end torque of the 4.0 over the 3.5. It's much more comfortable and the interior is better quality. Plus interestingly enough the 4runner comes with A-trac while the Tacoma doesn't.
@Driving Sports TV Ryan, Great video. Thanks. You didn't mention one great update for 2023 TRD Pro, Limited and TRD Offroad Premium; a heated steering wheel. Great new feature that has been lacking in previous model years. I'll mention that a more reliable and proper method for shifting into 4Lo is to first be in 4hi (rolling to a stop is a good time). Then once stopped, shift to neutral and shift transfer case to 4Lo. You didn't have issues shifting from 2hi to 4hi to 4lo in this video, but I see video reviews and forums complain about it being "finicky" to shift into 4lo, but they are doing it wrong. If one is already in 4hi when coming to a stop, it shifts into 4lo quickly and reliably every time, so mentioning that for your viewers. Multi-Terrain Select (MTS) is one option, but it's faster and easier to push the A-TRAC button to activate the "active traction control system". And I realize you were testing the A-TRAC and MTS features to see how they do, but will mention that in the real world, drivers would be best served to also engage the rear locker and then you are not needlessly wearing brake pads with A-TRAC clamping down on a spinning wheel. Great course and looking forward to the further build out.
The 4Runner is the go do just about any trip or adventure anyone could dream up vehicle. For me personally, it's the perfect Tonka toy for adults. The only other competition is the Wrangler Rubicon and Cherokee Trailhawk.. Superb video.
I am falling in love with the 4Runner….I will be getting one if my finances work out in the first quarter 2023…that TRD exhaust noise in the video is intrusive…I will not option that…thanks for allowing your microphone to pick that noise up….
The new 4Runner TRD Pro looks awesome in that Solar Octane paint! I'd love to step up to one from my '21 Crosstrek, but at almost $56k and 16ish MPG, I can't quite justify it.
Whenever I wonder that there might be something wrong with the transmission on my FJ Cruiser (because it won't hold steady RPM no matter how gentle I am on the go peddle), all I have to do do is listen to a RUclipsr drive a brand new 4Runner. LOL!
"When the pavement ends is where this 4runner gets really good".... but Im am going to whine about the little things that luxury cars have that this doesnt.
Showing LOVE for the channel thank you for another great video once again man seriously my wife and I are both getting new vehicles we've work hard for this moment in our lives and in sold for the new trd pro 4runner it's just everything I personally need in a vehicle and yes Toyota has figured it out point blank and my wife is wanting the new Ford Ranger Tremor. Thank You for your channel and seriously thank you. Have a blessed day everyone honestly your help too
Cannot add any additional praise that you have not covered. I have the 2018 TRD OR and by comparison to what you just showed, I am out of date with tech. But only by 5 years. lol Actually Toyota had all that gear on or available in their other products. Why it was not even an option for me back then, I have no idea. Since I bought it for the likelihood of it being my last 4WD and it will out live me, I cannot see me trading up and spending tens of thousands more just for the tech. that I do not have.(safety tech. cameras, push button start) I saved some pennies on not buying the TRD OR Premium. And I saved thousands upon thousands by not buying the Pro. I did option for the KDSS and it is worth every penny. Thank you for mentioning that. Bottom line, if I had to do all over again, I still think this is the best jack of all trades still on the market. The Bronco is more OR oriented and in competition with the Jeeps.. but neither will likely out live the 4R.
Nice review. Thank you! Coming up on 2 years with my TRD Pro and it has been incredibly versatile. For sure missing some of the tech of newer vehicles, but gets the job done.
@@TheAndrettiDog They are adequate. Not the best out there but also not a deal breaker for me. New 4Runner will be interesting to see how they change it.
Awesome video Ryan! Last year in early summer, you came out with a video comparing the Wilderness and a 4Runner. That video introduced me to the OBW, and I ended up buying the first one available in Arizona. Fastforward to today. I had to turn around yesterday in my OBW trying to get to Sheep's Bridge in Arizona and now I am watching RUclips videos of Rubicon's and now this. As much as I love my OBW, this video really really convinced me that I'd enjoy the TRD Pro more.
People don't want to be a beta tester for new and risky tech, they want proven, reliable, dependable, and familiar. I have a Landcruiser 80 series currently but I am highly considering a 4Runner as my next vehicle.
Thank you so much for this video! I am taking my 22-4runner pro off roading for the first time in the next couple of weeks. I have not familiarized myself with all of functions yet, but this video helped me understand them better!
Ryan great review! Please test one with KDSS to show whether it mitigates leaning and handling on road, as well as off-road articulation. Most reviewers don’t get KDSS versions, and when they do, they don’t know what it is, nor how to test it and compare it in BOTH on road and off road situations.
Only reason why the key is better is when you're low on battery you can turn the key to off position & cut power. On a push start out will keep tying to ignitec regardless of how low your voltage is. All you get is clunky clicks until you jump the batt
Very enjoyable as usual-you always do such a thorough job. I only wish (at my age) I could come up with a good reason to go purchase one. I have owned a number of off road vehicles in my life, but the one 4Runner I owned was probably my all around favorite (second place would go to a 1967 Bronco - bought this one from a friend in 1968). The 4Runner in this video is absolutely amazing in what it does in the dirt. Compared to the off road vehicles we had back in the 20th Century, I would think nobody today should ever get stuck anywhere in any driving conditions. The next step will be to make these cars steer themselves. Then, the driver can nap until the campsite is reached!🤣🤣🤣
Was in Toyota dealership this morn, Panama City Toyota, getting lil tint on my windows. Had a 1986 4runner on display in the back. Still looked amazing. Ya can't go wrong with it
I never watch videos like this, but I literally couldn't stop watching this one. The courses had me holding my breath and I audibly chuckled when the 4Runner cleared the rock course. Great work, and I especially appreciate the insight of the 4Runner's shortcomings as well as its features compared to the Off Road version. Thank you!
I think buyers voted pretty clear: they don’t need and don’t want updates on this car. I’m trying to buy 4Runner and hope I can pick the one I really want: off-road premium with kdss. And I want it before Toyota ruined another great car (rip tundra and sequoia). I don’t need turbo and, even worse, hybrid. I don’t need too many electric blows and whistles, which will be a 75-95% of failures in next 5-10 years. I just want a good and reliable car. Toyota, pls, don’t ruin it (if you want to update it, just update screen and camera resolution and count it as an achievement)
Rumor has it the next version of the 4Runner, I believe 2025 or 2026 will be 4 wheel independent suspension with a hybrid 4 cylinder engine and front wheel drive based...think Rav4 or Highlander.
@@wildbill23c I’ve heard they originally planned 2023-2024 for renewal, and COVID/war ruined their plans. Sequoia update also was later than planned. Unfortunately, emission requirements in US (and probably EU and others) push manufactures toward adding over complicated tech into their bullet proof cars. I hope they at least won’t sacrifice the quality too much.
I honestly think Toyota should sell this alongside the 6th gen 4runner when it comes out. Logistically, they could easily do as I'm sure the new generation will be made in the newest plants using the tngaf platform. Just like how Dodge sells new last gen trucks, it can be done. They'd make a pretty penny too on 5th gens as they do now, so theirs the financial incentive
The upcoming Land Cruiser based off the new GX platform will be the new off-roader. The 6th gen 4runner will be based off of the new Tacoma chassis and built in Texas/Mexico and will be more of a family off-roader.
Great video! Man, what a difference between this one and the 1994 version I owned years ago. It was two doors, removeable top, had the Warn manual locking hubs and the unusable rear seat. Would climb a vertical wall if it could get traction! But I loved it. Waiting on a 2023 TRD Off Road Premium.
I think I'll do Like I told my sis-- sold her I was going to buy a TURD- and she said' Heck- youve done that several times already!!". ha. (TRD-- NOT a put down- I LOVE these trucks)..
We just bought a 2023 Toyota Limited 4x4! Best SUV …..I’ve ever owned! Just watched a video that explained that the 4 Runner is built in Japan along side the Lexus version! So basically you are getting Lexus build and quality! I’m a Toyota owner for life now.
Got an ‘04 Limited myself as well. Going on 220k. Love the comfort mixed with capability. And of course love how solid everything still is underneath after 20 years
my 2020 RAV4 hybrid is getting some service done to its power rear liftgate… Some resistance gizmo doodad was faulty and preventing the door from opening… So they gave me a loaner and initially it was just another RAV4, but the kind lady at the service desk when I asked her if a 4Runner was available said that there wasn’t but if one comes in, she’ll call me and I can do a swap. Later that same day, a 4Runner did come back to the dealer. I quickly ran back over there and exchanged my loaner for an army green 4Runner Limited. As luck would have it, the dealer received the wrong replacement part yesterday. And due to the weather, Toyota is not shipping any parts until the weather improves. I am now able to keep using the 4Runner until my car is repaired. I’ve been able to now live with it for multiple days and starting to get a much more in-depth sense of the vehicle, its quirks, and livability. What strikes me the most is the 13 mpg I am currently getting in frigid temperatures driving in the city less than 40 mph. I also noticed the windshield washer spray pattern reminds me of a car from the 90’s….and anemic.
got a 2022 trd off road, and the only thing that i didnt get that i wanted was the cargo tray lol. So convenient if you routinely put stuff in and out of the cargo area. But pickings were slim and im more than happy with the vehicle
This does not compete with the Subaru Outback or Kia Telluride. This competes with the Wrangler and Bronco. You can't compare uni-bodies with body-on-frames and traditional transmissions with CVT's, dual clutches, etc. Here's what you have to compare and ask yourself, everything else being equal: Do you go off-road more than on-road? In other words, do you want on-road comfort and high capability off road, or exceptional capability off-road and next to no on-road comfort? Do you want to have a higher risk of breaking down on or off road? Do you want to be able to work on your own vehicle as much as possible or do you prefer to take your vehicle to the dealer or OEM tech for repairs? Do you have small genitals and need the newest, most expensive and complicated possessions to feel adequate?
These are bulletproof SUV the reason their resale value is so high. Toyota has been coming up with some nice designs lately I’m sure the next generation 4Runner won’t disappoint.
4runner is the perfect fit for my family. Even over the Lexus GX460. Mrs has no sympathy on the machine. So 4runner is the perfect match for her even city use while my 4runner is for touring and trail. On a side note you should compare @18:40 flex to a 4runner TRD Offroad with KDSS. When i checked with my buddy KDSS has less flex rear compared to my Pro. Prove me wrong please on rear solid axle flex, as Toyota thinks otherwise.
Really enjoy your videos! You've mentioned tires in almost every review I've watched. Could there be a future video comparing tires (mpg range, road noise, off-road limits)? How capable can a small SUV be with the right set of tires? I currently have my eyes set on the Lexus NX 450h+ where it would spend most of its time on the road but would need to get me up to a trailhead. Can I slap on 18" wheels and all-terrain tires and be good?
I don't get why people act so surprised. Just because the other car perform better temporarily you need to consider maintenance as well and longevity. Toyota runs forever.
I LIKE that slide out tray--- I dont' haul or carry that much-- so the room ain't that important- but some of my stuff is HEAVY (especially since I'm 67 now.. and have been mashed between 2 trucks back in 99).. :)
"the key is better" ..... because when my power door locks crapped out , I was able to lock my door manually and unlock with the key. It took Toyota 4 weeks to get the new power door actuator
Easier to diagnose problems with a real key sometimes when battery's are low it won't even try to turn over with a key you would hear it turn over the engine slowly and instantly know the batteries low
The only reason it is totally flat in the back is because of the cargo tray. If you don't get it then you have to level it out somehow if you want to sleep back there.
I have a 2022 ORP and I absolutely love it. Granted it’s new so we’ll see five years and 100k miles down the road how it feels, but right now it’s 100 percent the most solid feeling vehicle I’ve ever driven. I truly feel like it will last me forever which is why I bought it. It isn’t fast, doesn’t have the best tech but everything feels built better than the competition. You truly feel like you can go pretty much anywhere.
There are things I don't like about the 4runner, but mine is going on 10 years old and has almost 150k miles on it, and it still drives like new. No squeaks, rattles, or weird suspension noises. No reason to think your experience should be otherwise. One piece of advice I'll give you is that if you live in a state where they use road salt, get the undercarriage treated with Fluid Film, Woolwax, Krown, etc. These are prone to rust, and salt is not kind to them.
I watched this video the winter snow one & sarah n tuned video on the 4runner & I got one before they change to the next generation... Got the SR5 as I don't go do what a pro 4runner will do . put the michelin defender ltx m/s2 10 ply E rated tires on it & its getting 20.1 mpg city or highway. the tires are grate next I want to get the Bilstein 5100 rear shocks for pulling a travel trailer thanks for making the videos 4runner has not disappointed
Great review...thank you. You referenced the GX460 re: KDSS...for a daily driver and family trip vehicle to be kept "forever" ... which do you prefer, the 4Runner or GX460? Is one more user-friendly for someone 6'4"? Thanks!
I just received my 2023 4Runner Limited 4WD. I don't have trails to play in, but I know if ever I need to find a new path I'll probably be able to go where ever I want!
My local Toyota dealer had a 2021 4Runner Limited, blue with redwood interior on the lot for a duration of the vehicle shortage. It simply wouldn’t sell. The dealer refused to dealer trade it or let it go. I’m friends with the GM of the dealer and he said it was a unicorn. Blue with red (looked brown to me) and he wasn’t going to part with it. It finally sold after about a year on the lot. For some reason the Limited models don’t sell as quickly as the others. But my preference is the Limited simply for the full time 4 wheel drive.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 I think much of that is that this is a very "aspirational" vehicle. Similar to a jeep wrangler. While the majority of users will never hit trails that exceed the capabilities of the limited variants, people will still want the more off-road oriented trims for the dream of going anywhere, even though they likely never need the capacities of what a limited could do. Hell, I've driven a school bus through worse terrain than most 4runners ever see. The 4runner is my dream car - and while my brain knows the limited can do 99% of what I want - my heart wants an off-road variant.
I'm not skeptical about turbos. I owned a Ford Raptor with the Ecoboost engine and never had any problem with the 45k miles I owned it. I just hope they cancel the 4Runner altogether so my gen 5 will shoot up in value haha.
The irony - 4Runner following Ford Ranger - 2 vehicles supposed to be past their prime (truer in the case of the Ranger), was not lost on me. I drove an FJ Cruiser for over 10 years and honestly....I think I regret not getting the 4Runner. If I test a 2023 4Runner I am going to sit in the vehicle for a very long time, just to make sure I don't have the same blind spot as the FJ (the FJ cruiser blind spot was EVERYTHING behind the front seats). I loved my FJ and was reluctant to sell - aside from a new brake master cylinder is was flawless for 10 years. The 4Runner comes in $10K under a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, but tows much less and that will probably be my decision. Can I live with not towing at least 6,000 pounds. Right now, IDK. Of course, the Ford Ranger will be a good towing vehicle too. If the new Ranger shows up, I'll test that too. But I do not think the 4Runner is past it's prime.
Love the 4 Runner - thanks for the review. I am curious if you have statistics on how many 4 Runners are sold into rental fleets. In recent years, I see rows of 4 runners parked at the airport car rental lots in Western Colorado.
Purchased my first 4Runner in 1985, had it for 27 years, and it was still in great shape when I sold it. Very reliable, cost to operate was vey little, mostly just gas and oil. Replaced the head gasket in the 26th year. Actually regret selling it. Purchased my present 4Runner used, a 2003 in 2012 and I replaced some of the belt pulleys. So I have had it for 11 years now, and it is in very good condition. If we are all honest in normal market conditions vehicles cost money to own and operate and depreciate so if you have to watch your money buy something that will last as long as possible for the smallest amount of repairs and downtime. Most terrorist organizations in the Middle East would agree.
Every 4Runner review video:
Dated, antiquated tech, missing features that are standard on every other car, terrible gas mileage, unchanged looks
Also every 4Runner review video:
Reliable af, capable af even stock, classic and timeless styling.
Always the same thing but I love watching these review videos because it reminds me I made the right choice hahah
110% accurate!!! We have one 4runner, but highly considering a 2nd one. It just does everything great and we love that.
I say go for it… I own a 2012 TE and 2017 Pro and enjoy both equally.
You are not wrong. Lol I miss my 2016 4Runner. 😣 Can't wait to get a new one!
So true, and yet Toyota still sells 100,000 unit every year.... 150,000 units were sold in 2021....135,000 in 2021.... 0ver 100,000 so far in 2022..... so all the opinions of RUclipsrs are irrelevant
Better the way it is. Look how they ruined the Sequoia.
People buy this because of the MPI 4 liter and the 5 speed auto. Bullet proof and still made in Japan. When you look at the Mexican made tacos and some of the issues they have had over the years this model is none of that. This is the most reliable toy one can buy. People don't care how old it might be. Its legendary at this point and I'm sure Toyota is a bit uneasy about replacing it. And IMO, as long as sales are what they are they should never replace it.
I have a 2022 SR5 premium. If I could have that the rest of my life I would be happy
Actually not true, my 2020 pro built to my order finished in Mexico is the absolute best dam bullet pro truck I’ve ever owned
Got an ‘04 here with 220k. Made in Japan through and through. Love it!
I agree
A turbo will be detrimental to Toyotas engine longevity… I wouldn’t have one
Really good video, as an owner of a 2016 trail with KDSS I've never been so happy with a vehicle than the 4runner, you hit the nail on the head when you called it a Swiss army knife, she will do almost anything you ask of it and without giving you trouble, I've overland with it and it's my daily driver, couldn't imagine having anything else. Keep up the good work.
Swiss Army knife... yes!
I would love to see a review of a 4runner that is equipped with KDSS. I feel like that feature is greatly underrepresented
I like mine and I can tell the difference on the road. off road I don't see a difference.
I've never driven a vehicle with KDSS but it seems like an overly complicated solution compared to using an electronic or manual sway bar disconnect.
It kills your ability to add aftermarket stuff and forget 35s and anything cool
Do they make this in a manual trans?
@@ryantettenburn940 no manuals are gay
As you know, Ryan, I have been watching these videos for a few years and I am amazed that they keep getting better and better. I think one of the best parts of this video is when you (almost) buried the Toyota in the self-made course. I especially liked when you said: "Ooof, ooof... I love this course!" I also appreciate how you utilize situations in which the everyday (normal) person who may want an adventure know what to look out for. Another part of these videos I like is that you espouse the good and the bad. You are not selling the car, but enabling the public to understand that thos (or that) car may not be for them. Excellent. Have you ever thought about doing a Top 10 of the vehicles and how they perform on your courses?
We have, and will probably do something like that… at some point.
Love it.. I really hope they stay true to the utilitarian design with the new version whenever t arrives. And I personally think the old school headliner material looks more quality than the stuff they use in the Rav4. The MTS rocks and the crawl control rocks too !
They are keeping it based off the platform that the Land Cruiser Prado and Lexus GX use, so it will be very utilitarian, but be modernized, though I hope not too much.. I love the simplicity of my 4Runner
@@lunamaria1048 Same here !
The headliner may "look" outdated but its so thick and sturdy like everything else on the 4runner. The new stuff may look "updated" but its thin and cheap.
I don't do off-road at all but I haul lots of weight consistently with my vehicle, so I need biggest possible cargo space plus real world payload capability. After broke 3 suspensions of my Sienna (which has 1300lbs payload) I switched to 4runner(880lb payload on paper), what a difference between unibody and real body on frame, numbers don't matter AT ALL. Now I am on my third Runner.
Finally a reviewer with a course worth looking at. TFL should use your course
We're a long drive from Colorado.
I know you have a Toyota jacket 😂 Great review, as always. The 4runner is a complete legend. I'll never get tired of 4runner content.
One of the things I like best about these videos, is that even though Ryan might wear the jackets, doesn't mean he is going to give it a 10!
Every parts of this rig is solid and has been refined years after years. The more you know about this car the more you understand why it can last for so long.
Call me old fashioned but I haven't owned a "modern" car or truck. These complaints about screen size seem spoiled. You don't like the headliner it's an old design? What? I haven't listened to the radio in my truck for years. I don't need to be artificially stimulated every step of my day either. I constantly see people with a phone in their face 24/7. I'm sitting there seeing all the zombies in the waiting room detached from reality staring into an empty rectangle. Old school tech is just fine for me it still works.
I've talk to a few people I know that recently got 4Runners even though this generation is on it's way out. Most of them came from Jeeps and they said a Jeep cost so much to keep on the road, they just couldn't keep paying for wheel bearings and suspension components every 30k miles.
My 85 runner , manual tranny and a solid front axle. Didn't need any high tech stuff. Put that thing in low range and it would crawl up and down and over everything. Vastly superior vehicle, an army tank . Reliable as the sunrise and not unbearably uncomfortable on the highway, wish I still had that sweet thing.
If these had more 3rd row and trunk space we'd have one today. This was the only vehicle my Wife and I seriously considered when shopping for a new vehicle. We ended up with a 2023 Subaru Ascent instead. For a family of 6 though it just didn't have the seat/cargo space for us...which is unfortunate. 4Runners are awesome.
My family of 5 plus 2 dogs just had the same decision, 4Runner was what I really wanted, but went with the Ascent. We are very comfortable in it and don't regret it at all, but I will have my 4Runner some day...
@@vipervt09 wish toyota still had the land cruiser 😢
Ryan, We were wondering when you would cave in to the pressure and finally give us another 4Runner review 😉It was a relief to see the trees on this new course behaved so much better than that delinquent Ponderosa Pine 🌲that viciously attacked your personal 4Runner last year. To the subscribers, how many would prefer a Prado to a 4Runner? 🤔
I would prefer the land cruiser, but my budget wouldn't allow lol
The gx is better, in my country we have the Prado and yes the diesel engine is more economic,but the the GX is stronger
prado 🤤😋
The 4Runner looks way better
@@will0775 it takes premium gas and that's a disadvantage
I love the fact they haven’t changed it for 13 years. Reminds me of the 70 series that’s been around since mid 80’s. Can still buy it new in some parts of the world.
Imo, they need to put a just new interior in it and not touch the exterior, it looks like an old off roader and I prefer that look to most of the new ones
Some parts of the world? The 70-series is sold in more countries than where it is not sold in. It's pretty much only not sold in North America and EU. But unlike in the US or Canada you can legally import a new 70-series in the EU if one wishes to.
@@shivamarya5225 Agreed. A new interior and a new transmission and this thing is gold.
I agree with the Tacoma vs 4Runner comment. I have both in 21 model years and both are off roads with the 4runner being a premium. Every time I drive the 4Runner after the Tacoma I noticed how much smoother the transmission shifts and how much better I like the lower end torque of the 4.0 over the 3.5.
It's much more comfortable and the interior is better quality. Plus interestingly enough the 4runner comes with A-trac while the Tacoma doesn't.
@Driving Sports TV Ryan, Great video. Thanks. You didn't mention one great update for 2023 TRD Pro, Limited and TRD Offroad Premium; a heated steering wheel. Great new feature that has been lacking in previous model years.
I'll mention that a more reliable and proper method for shifting into 4Lo is to first be in 4hi (rolling to a stop is a good time). Then once stopped, shift to neutral and shift transfer case to 4Lo. You didn't have issues shifting from 2hi to 4hi to 4lo in this video, but I see video reviews and forums complain about it being "finicky" to shift into 4lo, but they are doing it wrong. If one is already in 4hi when coming to a stop, it shifts into 4lo quickly and reliably every time, so mentioning that for your viewers.
Multi-Terrain Select (MTS) is one option, but it's faster and easier to push the A-TRAC button to activate the "active traction control system". And I realize you were testing the A-TRAC and MTS features to see how they do, but will mention that in the real world, drivers would be best served to also engage the rear locker and then you are not needlessly wearing brake pads with A-TRAC clamping down on a spinning wheel.
Great course and looking forward to the further build out.
The 4Runner is the go do just about any trip or adventure anyone could dream up vehicle. For me personally, it's the perfect Tonka toy for adults. The only other competition is the Wrangler Rubicon and Cherokee Trailhawk..
Superb video.
I am falling in love with the 4Runner….I will be getting one if my finances work out in the first quarter 2023…that TRD exhaust noise in the video is intrusive…I will not option that…thanks for allowing your microphone to pick that noise up….
I have been trying to decide between TRD Off Road Premium vs TRD PRO..and I think this review helped me decide.
The new 4Runner TRD Pro looks awesome in that Solar Octane paint! I'd love to step up to one from my '21 Crosstrek, but at almost $56k and 16ish MPG, I can't quite justify it.
Cheapskate!
Needs hybrid
Get the LX470 and throw 15-20k at it, but it's still suck on gas 🤔
You don’t buy it for the mileage. You buy it for its capabilities and reliability.
Whenever I wonder that there might be something wrong with the transmission on my FJ Cruiser (because it won't hold steady RPM no matter how gentle I am on the go peddle), all I have to do do is listen to a RUclipsr drive a brand new 4Runner. LOL!
Love my 4Runner, just wish the gas mileage wasn’t so terrible.
Can’t wait until you get to test the new Pilot Trailsport.
This puts other off-road reviews to shame. Thank you!
"When the pavement ends is where this 4runner gets really good".... but Im am going to whine about the little things that luxury cars have that this doesnt.
It kills the outback and telluride 😂😂
Showing LOVE for the channel thank you for another great video once again man seriously my wife and I are both getting new vehicles we've work hard for this moment in our lives and in sold for the new trd pro 4runner it's just everything I personally need in a vehicle and yes Toyota has figured it out point blank and my wife is wanting the new Ford Ranger Tremor. Thank You for your channel and seriously thank you. Have a blessed day everyone honestly your help too
Cannot add any additional praise that you have not covered. I have the 2018 TRD OR and by comparison to what you just showed, I am out of date with tech. But only by 5 years. lol Actually Toyota had all that gear on or available in their other products. Why it was not even an option for me back then, I have no idea. Since I bought it for the likelihood of it being my last 4WD and it will out live me, I cannot see me trading up and spending tens of thousands more just for the tech. that I do not have.(safety tech. cameras, push button start) I saved some pennies on not buying the TRD OR Premium. And I saved thousands upon thousands by not buying the Pro. I did option for the KDSS and it is worth every penny. Thank you for mentioning that. Bottom line, if I had to do all over again, I still think this is the best jack of all trades still on the market. The Bronco is more OR oriented and in competition with the Jeeps.. but neither will likely out live the 4R.
Nice review. Thank you! Coming up on 2 years with my TRD Pro and it has been incredibly versatile. For sure missing some of the tech of newer vehicles, but gets the job done.
How do you feel about the old 4.0 and 5spd? I'm looking at buying one for my run around vehicle and weekend warrior.
@@TheAndrettiDog They are adequate. Not the best out there but also not a deal breaker for me. New 4Runner will be interesting to see how they change it.
@@rc51bigdaddy Probably gonna be a twin turbo 4. It makes sense but doesn't have much character. Just like all the electric vehicles.
My $46k TRD Off Road is feeling better and better every year:)
Thanks for another great review. I absolutely love the new course! This makes your channel one of the top review sites on RUclips.
Awesome video Ryan! Last year in early summer, you came out with a video comparing the Wilderness and a 4Runner. That video introduced me to the OBW, and I ended up buying the first one available in Arizona. Fastforward to today. I had to turn around yesterday in my OBW trying to get to Sheep's Bridge in Arizona and now I am watching RUclips videos of Rubicon's and now this. As much as I love my OBW, this video really really convinced me that I'd enjoy the TRD Pro more.
People don't want to be a beta tester for new and risky tech, they want proven, reliable, dependable, and familiar. I have a Landcruiser 80 series currently but I am highly considering a 4Runner as my next vehicle.
Thank you so much for this video! I am taking my 22-4runner pro off roading for the first time in the next couple of weeks. I have not familiarized myself with all of functions yet, but this video helped me understand them better!
Honest , funny, informative you nailed it
🇺🇸 Roman loves the G. What a fool!
Another GREAT video. Thank you!!!
Great review. I figured it would do that well. PLEASE test KDSS! No one does.
Ryan great review! Please test one with KDSS to show whether it mitigates leaning and handling on road, as well as off-road articulation. Most reviewers don’t get KDSS versions, and when they do, they don’t know what it is, nor how to test it and compare it in BOTH on road and off road situations.
TRD Pro never had turn signals on the side mirror. But the 2023 gets it.
You can always add it on to ur current t4r np
I'm in love with my new 2023 trd pro , this videos makes me go out to do off roading right now
Only reason why the key is better is when you're low on battery you can turn the key to off position & cut power. On a push start out will keep tying to ignitec regardless of how low your voltage is. All you get is clunky clicks until you jump the batt
Good to see another positive review of our beloved Gen5 4Runner. My daily driver and off-road/snow-wheeling superstar.
Very enjoyable as usual-you always do such a thorough job. I only wish (at my age) I could come up with a good reason to go purchase one. I have owned a number of off road vehicles in my life, but the one 4Runner I owned was probably my all around favorite (second place would go to a 1967 Bronco - bought this one from a friend in 1968). The 4Runner in this video is absolutely amazing in what it does in the dirt. Compared to the off road vehicles we had back in the 20th Century, I would think nobody today should ever get stuck anywhere in any driving conditions. The next step will be to make these cars steer themselves. Then, the driver can nap until the campsite is reached!🤣🤣🤣
Was in Toyota dealership this morn, Panama City Toyota, getting lil tint on my windows. Had a 1986 4runner on display in the back. Still looked amazing. Ya can't go wrong with it
The most important aspect in the 4R is that it retains the venerable 1GRFE/A750F combo.
Looking forward to the turbocharged engine in the 6th gen. Less power loss at altitude (Colorado), more torque, and better fuel economy.
I never watch videos like this, but I literally couldn't stop watching this one. The courses had me holding my breath and I audibly chuckled when the 4Runner cleared the rock course. Great work, and I especially appreciate the insight of the 4Runner's shortcomings as well as its features compared to the Off Road version. Thank you!
Great review and I love the test course you built! Your channel is awesome 👌 👏
I think buyers voted pretty clear: they don’t need and don’t want updates on this car. I’m trying to buy 4Runner and hope I can pick the one I really want: off-road premium with kdss. And I want it before Toyota ruined another great car (rip tundra and sequoia). I don’t need turbo and, even worse, hybrid. I don’t need too many electric blows and whistles, which will be a 75-95% of failures in next 5-10 years. I just want a good and reliable car. Toyota, pls, don’t ruin it (if you want to update it, just update screen and camera resolution and count it as an achievement)
Rumor has it the next version of the 4Runner, I believe 2025 or 2026 will be 4 wheel independent suspension with a hybrid 4 cylinder engine and front wheel drive based...think Rav4 or Highlander.
@@wildbill23c I’ve heard they originally planned 2023-2024 for renewal, and COVID/war ruined their plans. Sequoia update also was later than planned. Unfortunately, emission requirements in US (and probably EU and others) push manufactures toward adding over complicated tech into their bullet proof cars. I hope they at least won’t sacrifice the quality too much.
I honestly think Toyota should sell this alongside the 6th gen 4runner when it comes out. Logistically, they could easily do as I'm sure the new generation will be made in the newest plants using the tngaf platform. Just like how Dodge sells new last gen trucks, it can be done. They'd make a pretty penny too on 5th gens as they do now, so theirs the financial incentive
No
@@madzmadeit You must be why the car industry is so boring
@@tuckerhiggins4336 my influence is global and my power unchallenged
The upcoming Land Cruiser based off the new GX platform will be the new off-roader. The 6th gen 4runner will be based off of the new Tacoma chassis and built in Texas/Mexico and will be more of a family off-roader.
Great video Ryan can't get enough of the beautiful 4runner rugged and low tech I just love mine dude keep it up!
Nice review. Thank you!
Great video! Man, what a difference between this one and the 1994 version I owned years ago. It was two doors, removeable top, had the Warn manual locking hubs and the unusable rear seat. Would climb a vertical wall if it could get traction! But I loved it. Waiting on a 2023 TRD Off Road Premium.
Great video as always. 4Runner is a beast! Ranger Tremor looking nice in the background in some shots 👌🏼
I think I'll do Like I told my sis-- sold her I was going to buy a TURD- and she said' Heck- youve done that several times already!!". ha. (TRD-- NOT a put down- I LOVE these trucks)..
I do love that color
Saw your this video and ordered my self one TRD Pro. 2023. Nice video.
We just bought a 2023 Toyota Limited 4x4! Best SUV …..I’ve ever owned! Just watched a video that explained that the 4 Runner is built in Japan along side the Lexus version! So basically you are getting Lexus build and quality! I’m a Toyota owner for life now.
Got an ‘04 Limited myself as well. Going on 220k. Love the comfort mixed with capability. And of course love how solid everything still is underneath after 20 years
my 2020 RAV4 hybrid is getting some service done to its power rear liftgate… Some resistance gizmo doodad was faulty and preventing the door from opening… So they gave me a loaner and initially it was just another RAV4, but the kind lady at the service desk when I asked her if a 4Runner was available said that there wasn’t but if one comes in, she’ll call me and I can do a swap. Later that same day, a 4Runner did come back to the dealer. I quickly ran back over there and exchanged my loaner for an army green 4Runner Limited. As luck would have it, the dealer received the wrong replacement part yesterday. And due to the weather, Toyota is not shipping any parts until the weather improves. I am now able to keep using the 4Runner until my car is repaired. I’ve been able to now live with it for multiple days and starting to get a much more in-depth sense of the vehicle, its quirks, and livability. What strikes me the most is the 13 mpg I am currently getting in frigid temperatures driving in the city less than 40 mph. I also noticed the windshield washer spray pattern reminds me of a car from the 90’s….and anemic.
I used to own one. Underpowered and thirsty but fun.
Should also have Autostart click lock 3x hold it on the 3rd click.
I"m GLAD it's "old" as car companies would call it---- I'm a stickler for " IF IT AIN"T BROKE- DON"T FIX IT!"... (military training here..)
got a 2022 trd off road, and the only thing that i didnt get that i wanted was the cargo tray lol. So convenient if you routinely put stuff in and out of the cargo area. But pickings were slim and im more than happy with the vehicle
Love the new course! The 4Runner for the win as usual
This video makes me want to trade my truck in and get in a TRD pro. More then likely my next vehicle purchase I can’t wait
Mazda's wide screen is the bees knees, I love how it has google maps on one side and spotify/music on the other.
Really enjoyed this. Waiting for one to arrive at our dealer. 3-6mo wait is what we were told so crossing our fingers.
This does not compete with the Subaru Outback or Kia Telluride. This competes with the Wrangler and Bronco. You can't compare uni-bodies with body-on-frames and traditional transmissions with CVT's, dual clutches, etc.
Here's what you have to compare and ask yourself, everything else being equal:
Do you go off-road more than on-road? In other words, do you want on-road comfort and high capability off road, or exceptional capability off-road and next to no on-road comfort?
Do you want to have a higher risk of breaking down on or off road?
Do you want to be able to work on your own vehicle as much as possible or do you prefer to take your vehicle to the dealer or OEM tech for repairs?
Do you have small genitals and need the newest, most expensive and complicated possessions to feel adequate?
These are bulletproof SUV the reason their resale value is so high. Toyota has been coming up with some nice designs lately I’m sure the next generation 4Runner won’t disappoint.
4runner is the perfect fit for my family. Even over the Lexus GX460. Mrs has no sympathy on the machine. So 4runner is the perfect match for her even city use while my 4runner is for touring and trail. On a side note you should compare @18:40 flex to a 4runner TRD Offroad with KDSS. When i checked with my buddy KDSS has less flex rear compared to my Pro. Prove me wrong please on rear solid axle flex, as Toyota thinks otherwise.
Really enjoy your videos! You've mentioned tires in almost every review I've watched. Could there be a future video comparing tires (mpg range, road noise, off-road limits)? How capable can a small SUV be with the right set of tires? I currently have my eyes set on the Lexus NX 450h+ where it would spend most of its time on the road but would need to get me up to a trailhead. Can I slap on 18" wheels and all-terrain tires and be good?
My 23 pro just landed in Calgary, I am stoked
I don't get why people act so surprised. Just because the other car perform better temporarily you need to consider maintenance as well and longevity. Toyota runs forever.
I could here the engine flaring up constantly, was the trans hunting for gears that badly?
Love that paint job.
OMG! look at the quality of 360 camera in 2022. can't believe it. toyota saved every cent in every where
Beautiful truck! I’m just over 100k miles on my 2013 SR5. I sure will buy another when mine stops moving
I LIKE that slide out tray--- I dont' haul or carry that much-- so the room ain't that important- but some of my stuff is HEAVY (especially since I'm 67 now.. and have been mashed between 2 trucks back in 99).. :)
I love the color. I have a 2016 SR5 4Runner. I love my 4Runner
Listening to that TRD Pro exhaust during this video was very annoying!
Now I understand why most people don’t like it.
This is the exact spec my dad just bought, except without the cargo tray.
I love the 4RUNNER, exceptional vehicle offroad and good on road, great! video showing it's capabilities
"the key is better" ..... because when my power door locks crapped out , I was able to lock my door manually and unlock with the key. It took Toyota 4 weeks to get the new power door actuator
It’s difficult to tell size because you’re a small guy. The total height with the roof rack is only 6 feet. You’re shorter than that
I'm going to look at the 4Runner and Lexus GX today. Had Nick been a sniper we would have all been dead... LoL
Easier to diagnose problems with a real key sometimes when battery's are low it won't even try to turn over with a key you would hear it turn over the engine slowly and instantly know the batteries low
The only reason it is totally flat in the back is because of the cargo tray. If you don't get it then you have to level it out somehow if you want to sleep back there.
My 2021 Trd off-road 4Runner folded flat, and it did not have the tray.
I have a 2022 ORP and I absolutely love it. Granted it’s new so we’ll see five years and 100k miles down the road how it feels, but right now it’s 100 percent the most solid feeling vehicle I’ve ever driven. I truly feel like it will last me forever which is why I bought it. It isn’t fast, doesn’t have the best tech but everything feels built better than the competition. You truly feel like you can go pretty much anywhere.
There are things I don't like about the 4runner, but mine is going on 10 years old and has almost 150k miles on it, and it still drives like new. No squeaks, rattles, or weird suspension noises. No reason to think your experience should be otherwise. One piece of advice I'll give you is that if you live in a state where they use road salt, get the undercarriage treated with Fluid Film, Woolwax, Krown, etc. These are prone to rust, and salt is not kind to them.
I watched this video the winter snow one & sarah n tuned video on the 4runner & I got one before they change to the next generation...
Got the SR5 as I don't go do what a pro 4runner will do .
put the michelin defender ltx m/s2 10 ply E rated tires on it & its getting 20.1 mpg city or highway. the tires are grate
next I want to get the Bilstein 5100 rear shocks for pulling a travel trailer
thanks for making the videos 4runner has not disappointed
Great review...thank you. You referenced the GX460 re: KDSS...for a daily driver and family trip vehicle to be kept "forever" ... which do you prefer, the 4Runner or GX460? Is one more user-friendly for someone 6'4"? Thanks!
Gx has more headroom
I just received my 2023 4Runner Limited 4WD. I don't have trails to play in, but I know if ever I need to find a new path I'll probably be able to go where ever I want!
My local Toyota dealer had a 2021 4Runner Limited, blue with redwood interior on the lot for a duration of the vehicle shortage. It simply wouldn’t sell. The dealer refused to dealer trade it or let it go. I’m friends with the GM of the dealer and he said it was a unicorn. Blue with red (looked brown to me) and he wasn’t going to part with it. It finally sold after about a year on the lot. For some reason the Limited models don’t sell as quickly as the others. But my preference is the Limited simply for the full time 4 wheel drive.
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I think much of that is that this is a very "aspirational" vehicle. Similar to a jeep wrangler. While the majority of users will never hit trails that exceed the capabilities of the limited variants, people will still want the more off-road oriented trims for the dream of going anywhere, even though they likely never need the capacities of what a limited could do.
Hell, I've driven a school bus through worse terrain than most 4runners ever see. The 4runner is my dream car - and while my brain knows the limited can do 99% of what I want - my heart wants an off-road variant.
I'm not skeptical about turbos. I owned a Ford Raptor with the Ecoboost engine and never had any problem with the 45k miles I owned it. I just hope they cancel the 4Runner altogether so my gen 5 will shoot up in value haha.
LOVE the New Course!!!
The irony - 4Runner following Ford Ranger - 2 vehicles supposed to be past their prime (truer in the case of the Ranger), was not lost on me.
I drove an FJ Cruiser for over 10 years and honestly....I think I regret not getting the 4Runner. If I test a 2023 4Runner I am going to sit in the vehicle for a very long time, just to make sure I don't have the same blind spot as the FJ (the FJ cruiser blind spot was EVERYTHING behind the front seats). I loved my FJ and was reluctant to sell - aside from a new brake master cylinder is was flawless for 10 years. The 4Runner comes in $10K under a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, but tows much less and that will probably be my decision. Can I live with not towing at least 6,000 pounds. Right now, IDK. Of course, the Ford Ranger will be a good towing vehicle too. If the new Ranger shows up, I'll test that too. But I do not think the 4Runner is past it's prime.
Love the 4 Runner - thanks for the review. I am curious if you have statistics on how many 4 Runners are sold into rental fleets. In recent years, I see rows of 4 runners parked at the airport car rental lots in Western Colorado.
How did the TRD O-R compare in wheel articulation, suspension travel, and ability to traverse obstacles w/the PRO??
Purchased my first 4Runner in 1985, had it for 27 years, and it was still in great shape when I sold it. Very reliable, cost to operate was vey little, mostly just gas and oil. Replaced the head gasket in the 26th year. Actually regret selling it. Purchased my present 4Runner used, a 2003 in 2012 and I replaced some of the belt pulleys. So I have had it for 11 years now, and it is in very good condition. If we are all honest in normal market conditions vehicles cost money to own and operate and depreciate so if you have to watch your money buy something that will last as long as possible for the smallest amount of repairs and downtime. Most terrorist organizations in the Middle East would agree.