@@The_Humble_Hurricane actually Larry Bird's STATS PROVE what I said to be true.. you dont have to accept it for it to be A FACT.. and if you dont believe me, let me know. I'll provide the information.
I get that, but… no MJ is all that needs to be said. It probably wouldn’t have happened with how Jerry Krause and him had some issues keeping the second 3peat team together but they could’ve gone 8 straight if he didn’t wanna play baseball. Hate doing Hakeem cause he was at least top 5 big men like that but there’s definitely an asterisk on his titles. I know he was there for the second half of the second title run for Hakeem but MJ was so thin and out of basketball shape. Edit: I agree that it was better than lebrons run. The only thing close is down 3-1 vs the warriors. But honestly that wasn’t all bron, if he didn’t have kyrie he wouldn’t have won. And they only had kyrie cause he couldn’t do it himself like the ogs did it.
@@eyalsabag1772 Another knock against LeBron is being a pin in someone else's cap. One of the greatest playoff runs of all time was capped by "The King" being toppled off his constructed mountain. There were LeBron lifers and a few fans down in Miami rooting for them in that series and that's it. Everybody else wanted to see LeBron eat it and he did by scoring 8 points in the Finals against a 5 foot 9 inch puerto rican. He can send a million Klutch automatons out to try to erase the past but we all remember big Bron being the big choke master himself. I asked LeBron James for change for a dollar and he said "I can't carry four quarters." He was literally a joke.
I watched Groovy's reactions to Bird and Magic too, and every time he mentioned, "And he plays defense too?" I got took out. When I was coming up in the late 80s and mid 90s, just on the playground, if you didn't make the handler uncomfortable, nobody let you play pickups. At pro status, you simply never made roster. I'm literally baffled by this era of NBA ball and what it's doing to the perceptions of young fans.
I had zero handles put I could hit from anywhere, rebound, and d up. I was never picked first but I was never picked lower than 4th and 2 were the captains lol. Hustle is all d and boards are. If you weren’t trying to win you didn’t play. It was simple.
From the NFL to NBA, we got spoiled in the 90's. It is very hard for me to sit and watch a full NFL and NBA game today because of what I saw in the 90's. It wasn't just Michael Jordan. He was just the best at all of it, but everyone competed as if it was their last game.
Yep. That '96 NBA draft was a monster. I dont think we had a draft like that since. Even Mayweather Jr. came out in '96. And no big man today can stand next to Olajuwon.
That’s the part that kills me. Players in the 90s went all out every single game and played while hurt without even considering sitting out. You can’t compare teams nowadays, mentally not even close.
To be the GOAT a player not only has to be the best he has to earn the respect of his haters and he has to be loved by the fans lebron is the opposite to tht.
As soon as I saw lebron start calling himself the goat I lost all respect for him. Along with his laziness (which honestly is the entire league) his flopping is damn near criminal, and he’s always whining. Lebron is intolerable
@@TheRealMindCrime You ask why is matter they come back from 1-3, it's because the case is empty so they have to fill it with anything they found. 1 How many games the warriors lose during this playoff? 9 the same amount that during the season 9. They were not that untouchable. 2 How many times a team came back from 1-3 in NBA History ? 13, LeBron was the 1st time in the finals but the 13th in the playoff History. 3 ( Juste for fun but still important ) Who and when was the 12th times ? In 2016, western finals conference, the Warriors came back from 1-3 vs OKC. 4 Why nobody talk about that ? 😮💨 Plus, If I am not wrong LeBron said that one make me blablabla in 2018 Before Going On Another Team again To me it was to distract from his new leaving Cleveland, the decision didn't work, but something like that was a better strategy. I don't think he believe it himself, but the fans were estatic, then this debate, a lot of money and buzz thanks to this false debate How 2016 can make you the goat when you lose twice in a row After that vs the same team, cemented them as the 3rd dynasty since you are in the League when yourself with two superteams didn't succeed to create one, and there is a guy who have a double threepeat in 8 years ( only 5 times a team won 3 or more in a row in NBA history) with the same team but two differents rosters ( minus pippen and Phil) and you choose your number because of him and you have his brand on your jersey? If in 2016 you feel like the goat By 2018 you know you are not
My daughter is 14 years old and knows who the GOAT is. She had to do a critical thinking exercise in 8th grade (last year) about who the GOAT is. I asked her about how she figured out who the GOAT is and her exact words were “Michael Jordan accomplished more in less time, that’s how I reached my conclusion that he is the greatest.” Proud Mom Moment!
Again I give this kid mad props for doing his homework, and coming to unbiased conclusions. 100%. But I am stunned that these kids don't know about 6 Chips in 8 years, and similar Jordan accomplishments and milestones. We didn't have the interwebs growing up, and we knew about Russell and Wilt and West and Baylor. So again, respect for wanting to learn and know more about the game, but how did we have more knowledge and respect without having "Library of Alexandria" knowledge at our fingertips? It just shows what real heads are up against, that's all. Solid stuff bro. Keep up the good work.
I could respect LeBron fans if they were honest, but the whole trying to bash and diminish older players to prop up new ones is just a trash way to argue.
I consider it 6 championships in 6 years due to MJ being retired one season and then coming back in baseball shape Or I would even accept 6 championships in 7
I just laugh when i see this dude on thumbnail again lol lol ...Now, he 's hooked and with us the oldies after just 2 mixtape.. 🤣🤣..More to come for sure. Great vid anyway - i had fun watching it. Thanks.
As someone who grew up in the 90s, watching MJ was magical. Every game on TV was a must watch. I live in Vancouver and had the privilege to watch him play the Grizzlies the year where the Bulls won 72 games. That was the only live MJ game I have attended. He scored 19 points in the last 6 minutes of the game to come back to beat Vancouver. There are many videos about that on youtube. I still have goosebumps talking about that game. In my office, I have a picture that I took at the game of MJ shooting a free throw. That was before the time of digital cameras. As a high school kid at the time, buying film and developing the pics after was not cheap. I was so happy when the pics came out great. From time to time, I have young basketball fans coming to my office with their parents and they were blown away by the picture. When I talked about MJ in that game. Their eyes were wide opened and their expression were priceless. It is like they were listening to a fairy tale. I agreed with you brother, we old farts were spoiled.
LeBron fans conflate "greatest of all time" with "favorite player." And I get it, people gravitate towards the players of their era, but I'm convinced that this is why they won't cede any territory in the goat debate. Their attachments are entirely emotional, so criticisms of LeBron's game are taken personally.
the thing with the longevity...i can't just give that up to lebron. the fact that he's not putting in full 82 game seasons kind of counts out that longevity argument for me. on top of that, it's not like he's hustling to get those points, rebounds, etc....dude just stands there half the time or doesn't even get to the other end of the court. i'd imagine anyone would be able to last this long if they didn't put forth the full effort for those 21 seasons.
I never gave Lebron that Longevity nod, ever. I saw his entire career & know all the context behind it. Lebron’s longevity argument is a complete joke! It’s a complete crap 😂 smh
I wish MJ had played until his 40s without retiring ever. Unfortunately after MJs first 3 peat, his father was murdered and he was done and wanted to do other things. I think MJ put it best, others needed a chance to win.
And using game load management and resting on defense. Everyone love it to pay anytime to go to a game and see the star players. Not buying tickets and hope the players are playing on that day ( if the want)
Note how in the opening dunk highlights of the video nobody is anywhere near LeBron while he goes up but Jordan has guys hanging off him when he launches.
I agree with you with the helm praising LeBron from being down by three games against the warriors, even I said that look at Jordan he never lost in the finals and never went to a game 7. Is one thing to be undefeated in the finals, but it's also another thing to never allow a game 7
I like this young man and started watching him just a few weeks ago. But what I've noticed is a lot of these young guys argue without truly knowing the history. How many times during this video did Groovy say he didn't know something that we consider common knowledge, like 10 scoring titles, or 9 all defensive?
I’ve recently found his videos as well and love them. It’s fun to see the look on youngsters faces when it finally dawns on them how great really MJ was. I wish I could go back in time just to watch those games. Unfortunately the footage from back then isn’t the greatest.
I refuse to debate this stuff with anyone unless we are working with the same set of facts. Because there is no debate when we have the same set of facts.
I have seen the goat comparison video and reactions of Lebron fans, i guess at least 10 times. It never gets old and everytime i realise how blessed i am to witnessed the greatness of MJ and the 90's era.
Imagine if the Bills won in 93-94. It would change the entire perception of the Cowboys dynasty and cement that Bills team as one of the greatest ever.
this is proof that its' not hate. your channel is the reason I found this young mans channel and subscribed in support of his journey as well. im loving basketball talk online these days. wait til we all gotta witness Wemby God willing. Great channel.
Thank you! Man, I don't like Lebron and he shouldn't be compared to MJ but I'm not a hater lol. I love basketball and I just want what's good for the game so i speak out against the things bad for the game. But 90% of my channel is appreciating the great things about the game. But yeah, im a hater 😆
The videos a couple years old but a guy called LegaciiTV watched this video and legit looked like he was having his heart ripped out of his chest!! One of the best reactions I've seen
@@Lomno12 Kyrie would have been if not for that block at the end. That sealed it for Bron, coming back home and bringing a title to Cleveland after the "decision." He had "plot armor" in that storyline and got the game saving block so I can't fault the judges for giving it to him. All bias aside he can do some pretty amazing things when he doesn't quit on his team like a baby 🤷♂ Kyrie did save him......but that's nothing new lol
Unfairly my ass. Draymond is a dirty ass player who should get suspended more than he does. He never learns and never apologizes. You see him grabbing rookie Zach Edey's leg trying to injure him in a regular season game?
Wilt is my favorite player of all time, but my GOAT is MJ for everything he did on the court, on both ends for an entire career, and for doing it in such a short amount of time, and for making his teammates better, and for his love and respect for his fans/organization/game of basketball…✌️😎
My guy has always been George Gervin. But, about halfway through MJ's 3rd year, my friends and I all came to the same conclusion. MJ isn't my GOAT, he's THE GOAT.
Don’t worry about the time length brother. This was great content and worth every second. It brings me joy to see a Bron fan humbled by the true GOAT 🐐
Haaa, I'm on his channel and really liked his reaction however, your reaction to his reaction has got me laughing my tail off. Thank you, this was great!
42:05 Agree with what you are saying here. I think the biggest problem standing in the way of younger people understanding how great Jordan was is the fact that never saw full games, the only see highlight reels. Highlight reels are fun but they lack context. If I see Jordan dunk 100 times, I get bored no matter how spectacular they are. But watching how he played all out every game, watching how he dominated the end of games (what Magic Johnson would call "winning time"), and watching how he improved his game every single year to overcome weaknesses that might have cost him during the previous year. People forget he was criticized by the local press here in Chicago for "resting on defense" when he got tired. The next year he won defensive player of the year. People forget he went from having a good midrange game to having one of the best of all time. When the Pistons, Knicks, and Pacers used to beat up on him physically, he got in the weight room and built up the strength and conditioning to win. It is hard to look back on all that and understanding without seeing it, just as it is impossible for me to understand Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robinson, or Bill Russell.
Great reaction, and I agree, huge respect to Groovy for being honest with himself. I grew up playing and loving basketball all through high school in the 90s. I was never a Bulls fan, but I still loved watching MJ play. He's definitely the GOAT. As for my favorite player, I'd have to go with "Pistol."
I watched his vid reaction on his channel and I was laughing and laughing cause of his facial reactions 😂 I even commented on that vid reaction and told the youngster, he got my respect, 💯% that as a solid LBJ fan had the got guts to admit that MJ is very far, much better that his goat, that's a "genuine fan". that's tough man to admit on your own platform! hands up 🙌 yes, it's true NUMBERS and STATS don't really LIE! MJ is still my GOAT and it will stay that way forever! ✊
just like in KPOP, Twice is chasing really hard what BLACKPINK's achievements and yet, they failed over and over and over and over and over .... and the cycle keeps going on! 😂
It’s so much fun to see our favorite newer RUclipsrs get their flowers. Your channel has skyrocketed because of your honest takes and reactions. Normally I’m not a “ reaction” video guy but your I really enjoy watching you’re. Luckily I have a job where I work from home so I’m listening to your videos and others all day long.
Not only lebron isn’t the goat, he does NOT deserve to be in the goat conversation. He’s top 20, arguably 17th, 18th best player ever. But IMO he’s the 20th.
The 2016 series was rigged for LeBron to come back and win the finals on the actual King James birthday. Also King James' son started the CAVALIERS. No such thing as coincidence
Have to say… like this kid. It has to be hard to swallow it after watching this, but credit to this young man. So many funny moments and the look of realisation on his face is just incredible. Groovy, you got yourself a fan here. This is the issue with many young kids nowadays. They don’t have the information nor do they look for it. Credit to Groovy 👍🏻
Jordan's accomplishments showed he was the best all around..not just his words, or staying long enough to cheat the system, but still can't reach Jordan's heights or Kobes for that matter.😅
I'm so glad you're reacting to Groovy again! I love seeing this guy amazed by MJ. It's been so long for me more than 30 years since I first realized how impossibly great MJ was so watching his amazement feels like reliving it all over again, and it's fantastic! That said, I'm honestly very upset with some people for insulting him just because he's a LeBron fan. I believe he was born in '98, so he came into the world after MJ retired for the second time. C'mon, it's not his fault! Insulting him for that is childish and stupid, especially since he's learning and is clearly a very intelligent, open-minded guy. It shows as he doesn’t get upset and even says that the OGs are schooling him. What a great guy! We should all be cheering for him and appreciating his journey and hope he's one of the many who can get to this point, not tearing him down. Shame on those people! I'm really enjoying his journey, and I love that he’s also diving into videos on Larry and Magic. I’m sure he’ll explore many others too. I almost envy him discovering the light now in the internet era must be incredible!
The question is... why are we talking about LeBron vs. Jordan.... let's talk about LeBron vs. Kobe, Vs Steph,, Vs. Bird, Vs. Magic, Duncan,Vs Thomas, Wade, Dirk.... stop this stupind thing. There is no LeBron Vs. Jordan.
You hit the nail on the head! If he hadn't inserted himself in a conversation he Never deserved to be in, us ol heads had no problem with him. In other words, he knew his place and should've stayed in it. Instead, he let his mouth make a check his playing couldn't cash. And now he's being assasinated at every turn, along with all his fanboys with the FACTS.
Exactly. As much as I like D Wade, if he came out today saying he was the GOAT then I'd make it a point to prove that he's not. It's not about hate, its about crowning the true winner of winners and thats MJ
Man, that clip of chuck talking about their loss to the bulls still stings. The suns were the better team that year. We don't hear people talking them up because they lost.
What people don’t understand about the past generations is that. Wilt and Russell were facing each-other. And they also had insane athleticism. Both of them could leap out of the gym like Jordan. Even in today’s league they would dominate. Rebounds and block shots to say the least.
I have also watched this video from a LBJ fan. He often makes videos about MJ recently. I think all like-minded people must have also observed it. It is very interesting😄
Cool, you watched it.. yea.. he really seen it watching through this... This one is a good one, hes trying to learn and willing to be honest with himself.. its always a joy to watch them realize.. But sad, caus they narly always say "I just wish I got to see it"
Hello to all! Hallelujah, a young man took the great and intelligent attitude to study Jordan and see all he did in the past. This way it's easier for LeBron lovers to understand , but hey, it is what it is. Peace .
Man, you have to react to "Shehatesjosh" reaction on Jordan highlights. This was a satisfying and funny switch-up for us old heads😂. He tried so hard to not be coverted. He couldn't help it though. The title of his video is "DIE HARD LEBRON FAN REACTS TO Michael Jordan's HISTORIC Bulls Mixtape". Brah, this is another youngin that came to the light, On Camera.
closest thing to a superhero I've ever seen was a little Japanese MMA fighter who took on all the greatest regardless of how much size he was giving up to them, up to 60lbs, he beat most and was competitive against all. He dominated the first family of MMA, the Gracie family, handing them their first loss in 48 years, defeating 3 of them. In his very first fight he became the first man to submit a bjj/gjj blackbelt, winning a UFC heavyweight tournament, while weighing 180lbs. He had to lie about his weight to enter, saying he was 202lbs. In the PRide FC Grand Prix, he fought 90 minutes against Royce Gracie, the 3x undefeated UFC champ, forcing him to throw in the towel and take his first loss. Everyone thought he would leave the tournament, because this was the most important fight and he had fought so long, but he stayed in and fought to a draw in regulation against Igor Vovchachyn, the top HW in the world, who outweighed him by 50lbs and had his first fight before the 90 minute epic fight, giving him tons of rest. He finally took his first L in this fight, being too exhausted to go into overtime having fought 1 hour and 45 minutes in one night. by the end of his career, he had beaten 7 UFC champs, 3 Kings of Pancrase and 2 Dream GP champs.
Wtf TRMC, when you started clapping in the end, i let a tear go. And my favorite player is Petrovic! Gotta recognize greatness man. Simply put...he's the GOAT.
The Bills losing streak was tough. I was never a Bills fan but the pizza place we went to as a kid during the early 90s. The guy who owned it was a huge Bills fan. Every wall of that restaurant floor to ceiling was covered with Bills memorabilia. It was hard seeing this guy get his hopes crushed 4 years in a row. I miss that restaurant. They had excellent pizza and a Turtles in Time arcade machine. Loved it as a kid. (Edit. 40:15 When mentioning LeBrons weaknesses forgot to mention he is a turnover machine. All time leader in turnovers by a wide margin.)
Cheering on GROOVY like he converted to a new religion 😂 But in all seriousness, this was really awesome. This is a lesson for all basketball fans. Always learn, keep an open mind, and appreciate the game & all who paved the way. Also, appreciate the greats now who are making their impact today. I think GROOVY just reacted to Larry Bird so that’s awesome!
Never gets old seeing Lebron staring a hole into the ground while saying that one right there made me the greatest 😂😂😂😂bron always sounds certain doesn’t he? 😭😭😭
To clear things up, the "plumbers" excuse started due to a lot of the players in the 60's and 70's still had full time jobs because the NBA wasn't paying very much
Back then the standards were so high that even a player capable of being a scoring juggernaut, say about 25ppg if said player didn't have decent defense, sound fundamentals, court awareness etc. no way he was going to be a starter.
He was pretty reasonable, yet when he said, “coming from a LeBron fan, since BIRTH,” … I fell out my chair laughing - at myself, of course - because I’m damned old and no one playing when I was born was STILL playing when I was his age. 😂 Shout out to SheLoveGroovy!
Thank you so much for always making the point of Larry legend is the most clutch. Then MJ second. I’ve heard you mention it many times. Was great seeing this guy convert to MJ lol sene some other Lefraud fanboys concert too. Gives me hope haha
Hey. I take heat for it but its what i believe. So I'll say it. Bird is just that guy. MJ is right there with him but life on the line? I'm going bird for the winning shot lol
That's not the worse reaction ever. There's few more even more hilarious. My favourite was when certain lebronaphile was ignoring all MJ stats...and finally ragequitting at thanos comparison 🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣 From positive reactions I liked i am nova video.
To be honest, I’ve been watching this kids videos for a long time and he’s done several Jordan reaction videos and in every one at some point says Jordan’s the best player ever. This kid also said that he wants to react to videos of older players, so he can learn the true history of the NBA. He’s reacted to a video of The Dream and one of Larry Bird.
They learning little by little who the real GOAT is.... And is not even close.
💯 little by little is all i ask for
yea larry bird
edit * actually I got Jordan as the GOAT but Larry Bird is the BEST ALL AROUND PLAYER..
10000% facts
@@soramirez5473 cool opinion....you're entitled to it👌🏿
@@The_Humble_Hurricane actually Larry Bird's STATS PROVE what I said to be true.. you dont have to accept it for it to be A FACT.. and if you dont believe me, let me know. I'll provide the information.
Hakeem Olajuwon’s run to the title was far more remarkable to me than the Cavs run.
Agreed. The mavs also.
@@eyalsabag1772that one right there made Dirk the goat ha
Hakeem’s back to back carry job is ghostly underrated
I get that, but… no MJ is all that needs to be said. It probably wouldn’t have happened with how Jerry Krause and him had some issues keeping the second 3peat team together but they could’ve gone 8 straight if he didn’t wanna play baseball.
Hate doing Hakeem cause he was at least top 5 big men like that but there’s definitely an asterisk on his titles.
I know he was there for the second half of the second title run for Hakeem but MJ was so thin and out of basketball shape.
Edit: I agree that it was better than lebrons run. The only thing close is down 3-1 vs the warriors. But honestly that wasn’t all bron, if he didn’t have kyrie he wouldn’t have won. And they only had kyrie cause he couldn’t do it himself like the ogs did it.
@@eyalsabag1772 Another knock against LeBron is being a pin in someone else's cap.
One of the greatest playoff runs of all time was capped by "The King" being toppled off his constructed mountain. There were LeBron lifers and a few fans down in Miami rooting for them in that series and that's it. Everybody else wanted to see LeBron eat it and he did by scoring 8 points in the Finals against a 5 foot 9 inch puerto rican.
He can send a million Klutch automatons out to try to erase the past but we all remember big Bron being the big choke master himself. I asked LeBron James for change for a dollar and he said "I can't carry four quarters." He was literally a joke.
Lmao I remember watching the original video. One hell of an experience😮
Same. The part when he said “beating the juggernaut, or being the juggernaut” I was like dang that’s a reallllly good point
Poor Groovy lol
@@philipskinner570 What I have been saying, GOATs don't try to beat someone above them. GOATs beat everybody down to stay on top.
Groovy, we ol heads are proud of you. You've earned an honorary ol head badge ❤🤗
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I watched Groovy's reactions to Bird and Magic too, and every time he mentioned, "And he plays defense too?" I got took out. When I was coming up in the late 80s and mid 90s, just on the playground, if you didn't make the handler uncomfortable, nobody let you play pickups. At pro status, you simply never made roster. I'm literally baffled by this era of NBA ball and what it's doing to the perceptions of young fans.
Especially at young age... if you were not best player on the team by far scoring wise, good defender would always be infront of other players
If you didn't play D you were clowned and booted
And now the NBA all defebsive teams are filled with roll players instead of stars
Yeah. They have no idea that to start back then you had to play great defense. Scoring was secondary
I had zero handles put I could hit from anywhere, rebound, and d up. I was never picked first but I was never picked lower than 4th and 2 were the captains lol. Hustle is all d and boards are. If you weren’t trying to win you didn’t play. It was simple.
From the NFL to NBA, we got spoiled in the 90's. It is very hard for me to sit and watch a full NFL and NBA game today because of what I saw in the 90's. It wasn't just Michael Jordan. He was just the best at all of it, but everyone competed as if it was their last game.
Yep. That '96 NBA draft was a monster. I dont think we had a draft like that since. Even Mayweather Jr. came out in '96. And no big man today can stand next to Olajuwon.
80's into the 90's...
MLB too
I cant even watch full 10min of NBA highlights I usually move it to the last 2mins already haha.
That’s the part that kills me. Players in the 90s went all out every single game and played while hurt without even considering sitting out. You can’t compare teams nowadays, mentally not even close.
Honestly, I didn't even know who groovy was but, he has my respect. It takes A LOT to admit you were wrong. Much respect to him.
It's the only kind of lebron fans that i respect
Same here. I found his channel by chance and I'm glad i did.
To be the GOAT a player not only has to be the best he has to earn the respect of his haters and he has to be loved by the fans lebron is the opposite to tht.
100%
100% that happened with MJ. Everyone not in chicago loved to hate him but in the end everyone respects him and calls him the goat
@@TheRealMindCrimeAbsolutely. Same with Kobe, 2nd only to MJ.
As soon as I saw lebron start calling himself the goat I lost all respect for him. Along with his laziness (which honestly is the entire league) his flopping is damn near criminal, and he’s always whining.
Lebron is intolerable
@@TheRealMindCrime You ask why is matter they come back from 1-3, it's because the case is empty so they have to fill it with anything they found.
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How many games the warriors lose during this playoff?
9 the same amount that during the season 9.
They were not that untouchable.
2
How many times a team came back from 1-3 in NBA History ?
13, LeBron was the 1st time in the finals but the 13th in the playoff History.
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( Juste for fun but still important )
Who and when was the 12th times ?
In 2016, western finals conference, the Warriors came back from 1-3 vs OKC.
4
Why nobody talk about that ?
😮💨
Plus,
If I am not wrong LeBron said that one make me blablabla in 2018
Before
Going On Another Team again
To me it was to distract from his new leaving Cleveland, the decision didn't work, but something like that was a better strategy.
I don't think he believe it himself, but the fans were estatic, then this debate, a lot of money and buzz thanks to this false debate
How 2016 can make you the goat when you lose twice in a row After that vs the same team, cemented them as the 3rd dynasty since you are in the League when yourself with two superteams didn't succeed to create one, and there is a guy who have a double threepeat in 8 years ( only 5 times a team won 3 or more in a row in NBA history) with the same team but two differents rosters ( minus pippen and Phil) and you choose your number because of him and you have his brand on your jersey?
If in 2016 you feel like the goat
By 2018 you know you are not
I’ll watch that video every few months or so. Really was the best goat debate video. Wish that guy capitalized and made more great videos
My daughter is 14 years old and knows who the GOAT is. She had to do a critical thinking exercise in 8th grade (last year) about who the GOAT is. I asked her about how she figured out who the GOAT is and her exact words were “Michael Jordan accomplished more in less time, that’s how I reached my conclusion that he is the greatest.”
Proud Mom Moment!
Thats the perfect answer! Also why i have magic and kobe over lebron. Got more done in less time = better at the job lol
@@TheRealMindCrime don’t forget Larry Legend!
I love being an '83 baby 😂. 80s babies is the bridge from the old to the new.😂 We got the best of both era.
Preach! 🎉
Again I give this kid mad props for doing his homework, and coming to unbiased conclusions. 100%.
But I am stunned that these kids don't know about 6 Chips in 8 years, and similar Jordan accomplishments and milestones. We didn't have the interwebs growing up, and we knew about Russell and Wilt and West and Baylor. So again, respect for wanting to learn and know more about the game, but how did we have more knowledge and respect without having "Library of Alexandria" knowledge at our fingertips? It just shows what real heads are up against, that's all.
Solid stuff bro. Keep up the good work.
"6 Championships in 8 years.?!?!"
Now you know why we loath the GOAT debate,kid.
There never was a debate
I could respect LeBron fans if they were honest, but the whole trying to bash and diminish older players to prop up new ones is just a trash way to argue.
What debate? 😉
I consider it 6 championships in 6 years due to MJ being retired one season and then coming back in baseball shape
Or I would even accept 6 championships in 7
@@TheRealMindCrime * propaganda
Congrats on 50k. Been here since very early on. Keep the videos coming
Thank you!!!!
I just laugh when i see this dude on thumbnail again lol lol ...Now, he 's hooked and with us the oldies after just 2 mixtape.. 🤣🤣..More to come for sure. Great vid anyway - i had fun watching it. Thanks.
It doesn't take much to switch these kids around. That's when you really know there's no goat debate.
As someone who grew up in the 90s, watching MJ was magical. Every game on TV was a must watch. I live in Vancouver and had the privilege to watch him play the Grizzlies the year where the Bulls won 72 games. That was the only live MJ game I have attended. He scored 19 points in the last 6 minutes of the game to come back to beat Vancouver. There are many videos about that on youtube. I still have goosebumps talking about that game. In my office, I have a picture that I took at the game of MJ shooting a free throw. That was before the time of digital cameras. As a high school kid at the time, buying film and developing the pics after was not cheap. I was so happy when the pics came out great. From time to time, I have young basketball fans coming to my office with their parents and they were blown away by the picture. When I talked about MJ in that game. Their eyes were wide opened and their expression were priceless. It is like they were listening to a fairy tale. I agreed with you brother, we old farts were spoiled.
He’s one of the few youngsters that have an open mind
I agree. He's pretty cool so far
LeBron fans conflate "greatest of all time" with "favorite player." And I get it, people gravitate towards the players of their era, but I'm convinced that this is why they won't cede any territory in the goat debate. Their attachments are entirely emotional, so criticisms of LeBron's game are taken personally.
I love Steph, but MJ is the greatest of all time and there are many other players on the list before Steph.
MJ all the way :)
Big respect to Groovy for at least acknowledging the GOAT haha
It was a fun reaction 👊🏽💪🏽
totally agreed. I'm glad he accepted it lol
I been watching his reactions too. I appreciate this kid. He’s willing to be objective despite having never seen MJ play.
I feel the same way. His journey has been fun to watch
the thing with the longevity...i can't just give that up to lebron. the fact that he's not putting in full 82 game seasons kind of counts out that longevity argument for me. on top of that, it's not like he's hustling to get those points, rebounds, etc....dude just stands there half the time or doesn't even get to the other end of the court. i'd imagine anyone would be able to last this long if they didn't put forth the full effort for those 21 seasons.
I never gave Lebron that Longevity nod, ever.
I saw his entire career & know all the context behind it.
Lebron’s longevity argument is a complete joke! It’s a complete crap 😂 smh
I wish MJ had played until his 40s without retiring ever. Unfortunately after MJs first 3 peat, his father was murdered and he was done and wanted to do other things. I think MJ put it best, others needed a chance to win.
And using game load management and resting on defense. Everyone love it to pay anytime to go to a game and see the star players. Not buying tickets and hope the players are playing on that day ( if the want)
Note how in the opening dunk highlights of the video nobody is anywhere near LeBron while he goes up but Jordan has guys hanging off him when he launches.
Lol you know why
I agree with you with the helm praising LeBron from being down by three games against the warriors, even I said that look at Jordan he never lost in the finals and never went to a game 7. Is one thing to be undefeated in the finals, but it's also another thing to never allow a game 7
I totally agree
You're Remedial at best. You can't compare the Warriors to any of the teams Michael Jordan played against.
i watched Groovy video. he came to Realized who the GOAT is.
Yessir he did
No one can deny MJ if they actually look into it.
I can’t watch todays game, it’s way too soft
I like this young man and started watching him just a few weeks ago. But what I've noticed is a lot of these young guys argue without truly knowing the history. How many times during this video did Groovy say he didn't know something that we consider common knowledge, like 10 scoring titles, or 9 all defensive?
I’ve recently found his videos as well and love them. It’s fun to see the look on youngsters faces when it finally dawns on them how great really MJ was. I wish I could go back in time just to watch those games. Unfortunately the footage from back then isn’t the greatest.
Of course! If they knew history, they would call MJ the GOAT
I refuse to debate this stuff with anyone unless we are working with the same set of facts. Because there is no debate when we have the same set of facts.
@@kks2360also true. No debate if there is no holding to same standard
I have seen the goat comparison video and reactions of Lebron fans, i guess at least 10 times. It never gets old and everytime i realise how blessed i am to witnessed the greatness of MJ and the 90's era.
Imagine if the Bills won in 93-94. It would change the entire perception of the Cowboys dynasty and cement that Bills team as one of the greatest ever.
Absolutely it would've!
The Bills really only had a chance to beat the Giants.
They should’ve won.
And maybe that propels them into beating Wash and Dallas
This has got to be the funniest video ever... LOVE IT!!! The narrator laughing at groove in the background is hillarious..
lol!
I loled at your point against Longevity. It's the only thing LeBron has, but all the LeBalco Allegations could put an asterisk on even that.
Lol true. But its such a landslide win for MJ that I don't care. Take longevity. MJ wins everything else lol
this is proof that its' not hate. your channel is the reason I found this young mans channel and subscribed in support of his journey as well. im loving basketball talk online these days.
wait til we all gotta witness Wemby God willing.
Great channel.
and its funny how I wrote "kid" and deleted and re-wrote "young man". lol. we are old heads ahahahaha. im glad we are showing respect.
Thank you! Man, I don't like Lebron and he shouldn't be compared to MJ but I'm not a hater lol. I love basketball and I just want what's good for the game so i speak out against the things bad for the game. But 90% of my channel is appreciating the great things about the game. But yeah, im a hater 😆
Yeah i gotta stop that too. We hated being called "kid" at that age too so its time we learn from that even though its hard lol
The videos a couple years old but a guy called LegaciiTV watched this video and legit looked like he was having his heart ripped out of his chest!! One of the best reactions I've seen
He's funny. The way he was looking at his lequeen poster...😂😂😂
@mpound97 he was so disappointed in LeChoke James!! 1 of the funniest Jordan reactions I've seen to this point so far
They never mentioned that 3 to 1 comeback had a unfairly suspended Green mid finals.
Kyree arguably could have been mvp of those finals as well
@Lomno12 he should have IMO
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@@Lomno12 Kyrie would have been if not for that block at the end. That sealed it for Bron, coming back home and bringing a title to Cleveland after the "decision." He had "plot armor" in that storyline and got the game saving block so I can't fault the judges for giving it to him.
All bias aside he can do some pretty amazing things when he doesn't quit on his team like a baby 🤷♂
Kyrie did save him......but that's nothing new lol
Unfairly my ass. Draymond is a dirty ass player who should get suspended more than he does. He never learns and never apologizes. You see him grabbing rookie Zach Edey's leg trying to injure him in a regular season game?
Wilt is my favorite player of all time, but my GOAT is MJ for everything he did on the court, on both ends for an entire career, and for doing it in such a short amount of time, and for making his teammates better, and for his love and respect for his fans/organization/game of basketball…✌️😎
My guy has always been George Gervin. But, about halfway through MJ's 3rd year, my friends and I all came to the same conclusion. MJ isn't my GOAT, he's THE GOAT.
Don’t worry about the time length brother. This was great content and worth every second. It brings me joy to see a Bron fan humbled by the true GOAT 🐐
He actually only played 11 Full seasons
That's how the conversion from "LeBron is the goat " to "MJ is the Goat " starts 👏🏾😂
Haaa, I'm on his channel and really liked his reaction however, your reaction to his reaction has got me laughing my tail off. Thank you, this was great!
Lol react inception for the win!
Love watching your reactions to groovys reactions. I was born in 85 so I grew up with Jordan in the 90s. Keep up these great vids bro ! 👊🏽 💯
Thank you!
Groovy took an honest look at this video. I'm proud of him, too. Dude watched with an open mind and avoided getting into his feelings.
Agreed. He earned my respect here
I saw this on his channel, and I was laughing at most of his responses.
yeah I enjoyed this one too lol
I Saw this earlier, morning time blessings bro, he is definitely convinced that MJ is the Goat
Yup. This one stamped it for him lol
42:05 Agree with what you are saying here. I think the biggest problem standing in the way of younger people understanding how great Jordan was is the fact that never saw full games, the only see highlight reels. Highlight reels are fun but they lack context. If I see Jordan dunk 100 times, I get bored no matter how spectacular they are. But watching how he played all out every game, watching how he dominated the end of games (what Magic Johnson would call "winning time"), and watching how he improved his game every single year to overcome weaknesses that might have cost him during the previous year. People forget he was criticized by the local press here in Chicago for "resting on defense" when he got tired. The next year he won defensive player of the year. People forget he went from having a good midrange game to having one of the best of all time. When the Pistons, Knicks, and Pacers used to beat up on him physically, he got in the weight room and built up the strength and conditioning to win. It is hard to look back on all that and understanding without seeing it, just as it is impossible for me to understand Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robinson, or Bill Russell.
We witnessed it and we still can’t comprehend what he was!
I'm still amazed!
Great reaction, and I agree, huge respect to Groovy for being honest with himself. I grew up playing and loving basketball all through high school in the 90s. I was never a Bulls fan, but I still loved watching MJ play. He's definitely the GOAT. As for my favorite player, I'd have to go with "Pistol."
moral of the video is that at some point Lebum fans are growing up and therefore they're relying on their heads more than their feelings.
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Bruh 25 under wouldn't know nothing about our goat Jordan.
Im 25 and a lakers fan so I grew up thinking he was the Goat, and learning about Jordan just makes u realize thats a tough mountain to climb 😅
I know lol. I'm juat glad to see him putting in the effort to learn and understand us
Try 30 & under👊🏿
great respect to this young generations that acknowledges MJs greatness. respecting all time greats and GOAT MJ.
The narrator says "how you feel yooung man" "proud of you groovy proud of you man" lmao!!!!
I watched his vid reaction on his channel and I was laughing and laughing cause of his facial reactions 😂 I even commented on that vid reaction and told the youngster, he got my respect, 💯% that as a solid LBJ fan had the got guts to admit that MJ is very far, much better that his goat, that's a "genuine fan". that's tough man to admit on your own platform! hands up 🙌 yes, it's true NUMBERS and STATS don't really LIE! MJ is still my GOAT and it will stay that way forever! ✊
just like in KPOP, Twice is chasing really hard what BLACKPINK's achievements and yet, they failed over and over and over and over and over .... and the cycle keeps going on! 😂
Love it 😆
It’s so much fun to see our favorite newer RUclipsrs get their flowers. Your channel has skyrocketed because of your honest takes and reactions. Normally I’m not a “ reaction” video guy but your I really enjoy watching you’re. Luckily I have a job where I work from home so I’m listening to your videos and others all day long.
It was truly amazing to watch. I honestly wish this kid could have watched it, you can tell he gets it.
Not only lebron isn’t the goat, he does NOT deserve to be in the goat conversation.
He’s top 20, arguably 17th, 18th best player ever. But IMO he’s the 20th.
I got him around 11
You really did it!!
This the one i was talking about from before❤
The 2016 series was rigged for LeBron to come back and win the finals on the actual King James birthday. Also King James' son started the CAVALIERS. No such thing as coincidence
Have to say… like this kid.
It has to be hard to swallow it after watching this, but credit to this young man. So many funny moments and the look of realisation on his face is just incredible.
Groovy, you got yourself a fan here.
This is the issue with many young kids nowadays. They don’t have the information nor do they look for it. Credit to Groovy 👍🏻
What a kind dude. He admit all... it never happen on a social or here on RUclips! Top. I'll follow him
bro, when you were laughing watching his reaction i was also laughing hard here. this video really made my day. thanks, man!
Thanks max. That makes me happy to hear.
Jordan's accomplishments showed he was the best all around..not just his words, or staying long enough to cheat the system, but still can't reach Jordan's heights or Kobes for that matter.😅
😂 I've watched way too many of your videos. I'm starting to see these vids days before you react to them
I'm so glad you're reacting to Groovy again! I love seeing this guy amazed by MJ. It's been so long for me more than 30 years since I first realized how impossibly great MJ was so watching his amazement feels like reliving it all over again, and it's fantastic!
That said, I'm honestly very upset with some people for insulting him just because he's a LeBron fan. I believe he was born in '98, so he came into the world after MJ retired for the second time. C'mon, it's not his fault!
Insulting him for that is childish and stupid, especially since he's learning and is clearly a very intelligent, open-minded guy. It shows as he doesn’t get upset and even says that the OGs are schooling him. What a great guy!
We should all be cheering for him and appreciating his journey and hope he's one of the many who can get to this point, not tearing him down. Shame on those people!
I'm really enjoying his journey, and I love that he’s also diving into videos on Larry and Magic. I’m sure he’ll explore many others too. I almost envy him discovering the light now in the internet era must be incredible!
For sure! Im gonna check in on his journey from time to time
This kid actually gets it and more educated than most lebron fan
Agreed
The question is... why are we talking about LeBron vs. Jordan.... let's talk about LeBron vs. Kobe, Vs Steph,, Vs. Bird, Vs. Magic, Duncan,Vs Thomas, Wade, Dirk.... stop this stupind thing. There is no LeBron Vs. Jordan.
You hit the nail on the head! If he hadn't inserted himself in a conversation he Never deserved to be in, us ol heads had no problem with him. In other words, he knew his place and should've stayed in it. Instead, he let his mouth make a check his playing couldn't cash. And now he's being assasinated at every turn, along with all his fanboys with the FACTS.
Exactly. As much as I like D Wade, if he came out today saying he was the GOAT then I'd make it a point to prove that he's not. It's not about hate, its about crowning the true winner of winners and thats MJ
That video is the only video i can watch over and over and over again. Love watching Lebron fans realize the truth. Respects to this dude tho.
Man, that clip of chuck talking about their loss to the bulls still stings.
The suns were the better team that year. We don't hear people talking them up because they lost.
Watching Jordan play was like watching captain America fight Hydra.
hahahha love it
Dr. J. #2 because he did things that no one else before or during his time could do. D Wade is one of my favorites.
42:22 right we seen it with our own eyes ! #OG
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I enjoy this guys videos. He’s been watching a lot of MJ stuff lately and seems to have been persuaded.
What people don’t understand about the past generations is that. Wilt and Russell were facing each-other.
And they also had insane athleticism.
Both of them could leap out of the gym like Jordan.
Even in today’s league they would dominate. Rebounds and block shots to say the least.
I'm proud of you young buck. It takes a lot for a man to admit when they are wrong! There should be more young bucks like you
man i love this one brother i had so much fun im definitely going to share it with my lebron loving friends 😂
I have also watched this video from a LBJ fan. He often makes videos about MJ recently. I think all like-minded people must have also observed it. It is very interesting😄
I hope some more young people see his vids. They can learn a thing or two lol
Cool, you watched it.. yea.. he really seen it watching through this...
This one is a good one, hes trying to learn and willing to be honest with himself.. its always a joy to watch them realize..
But sad, caus they narly always say "I just wish I got to see it"
My favorites in order are Mike, Steph, Kobe, Iverson, Shaq, Dr. J, Magic, Bird, GP2, and i can't think of the last 1 off hand 😊
Nice!
Hello to all!
Hallelujah, a young man took the great and intelligent attitude to study Jordan and see all he did in the past.
This way it's easier for LeBron lovers to understand , but hey, it is what it is.
Peace .
This vid keeps on giving me goosebumps.
Man, you have to react to "Shehatesjosh" reaction on Jordan highlights. This was a satisfying and funny switch-up for us old heads😂. He tried so hard to not be coverted. He couldn't help it though. The title of his video is "DIE HARD LEBRON FAN REACTS TO Michael Jordan's HISTORIC Bulls Mixtape". Brah, this is another youngin that came to the light, On Camera.
Lol ok. I found it! I'll react to it. Thanks voodoo!
closest thing to a superhero I've ever seen was a little Japanese MMA fighter who took on all the greatest regardless of how much size he was giving up to them, up to 60lbs, he beat most and was competitive against all. He dominated the first family of MMA, the Gracie family, handing them their first loss in 48 years, defeating 3 of them.
In his very first fight he became the first man to submit a bjj/gjj blackbelt, winning a UFC heavyweight tournament, while weighing 180lbs. He had to lie about his weight to enter, saying he was 202lbs.
In the PRide FC Grand Prix, he fought 90 minutes against Royce Gracie, the 3x undefeated UFC champ, forcing him to throw in the towel and take his first loss. Everyone thought he would leave the tournament, because this was the most important fight and he had fought so long, but he stayed in and fought to a draw in regulation against Igor Vovchachyn, the top HW in the world, who outweighed him by 50lbs and had his first fight before the 90 minute epic fight, giving him tons of rest. He finally took his first L in this fight, being too exhausted to go into overtime having fought 1 hour and 45 minutes in one night.
by the end of his career, he had beaten 7 UFC champs, 3 Kings of Pancrase and 2 Dream GP champs.
Its as if Kyrie didn't outplay the MVP those last 3 games. Or hit championship bucket....
Penny T Mac KG Kevin Johnson were definitely some of my favorite players
Nice! I got nothing but love for all of them
The lie takes the elevator, the truth takes the stairs.
Nice
😂😂😂 never seen this guy before that's a nice jersey
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Wtf TRMC, when you started clapping in the end, i let a tear go. And my favorite player is Petrovic!
Gotta recognize greatness man.
Simply put...he's the GOAT.
I forgot i did that!
The Bills losing streak was tough. I was never a Bills fan but the pizza place we went to as a kid during the early 90s. The guy who owned it was a huge Bills fan. Every wall of that restaurant floor to ceiling was covered with Bills memorabilia. It was hard seeing this guy get his hopes crushed 4 years in a row. I miss that restaurant. They had excellent pizza and a Turtles in Time arcade machine. Loved it as a kid. (Edit. 40:15 When mentioning LeBrons weaknesses forgot to mention he is a turnover machine. All time leader in turnovers by a wide margin.)
I love that the first LeBron highlight is a travel in Jordan's era
Coming back from 3-1 is a great story. Thats why people will hang on to it. Doesnt make it better then any other series win.
Exactly
Cheering on GROOVY like he converted to a new religion 😂 But in all seriousness, this was really awesome. This is a lesson for all basketball fans. Always learn, keep an open mind, and appreciate the game & all who paved the way. Also, appreciate the greats now who are making their impact today.
I think GROOVY just reacted to Larry Bird so that’s awesome!
😆 🤣 😂 welcome to the MJ cult 😆 🤣 😂
Le Flop belongs on NBAs mount rushmore of shame. He has helped destroy what the NBA used to be.
Agreed
Never gets old seeing Lebron staring a hole into the ground while saying that one right there made me the greatest 😂😂😂😂bron always sounds certain doesn’t he? 😭😭😭
To clear things up, the "plumbers" excuse started due to a lot of the players in the 60's and 70's still had full time jobs because the NBA wasn't paying very much
This comparison video is pretty thorough and on point though
It's like that meme about everytime a guy hears something hurt their feelings, they feel a blow like a gunshot. lol
Back then the standards were so high that even a player capable of being a scoring juggernaut, say about 25ppg if said player didn't have decent defense, sound fundamentals, court awareness etc. no way he was going to be a starter.
He was pretty reasonable, yet when he said, “coming from a LeBron fan, since BIRTH,” … I fell out my chair laughing - at myself, of course - because I’m damned old and no one playing when I was born was STILL playing when I was his age. 😂
Shout out to SheLoveGroovy!
Thank you so much for always making the point of Larry legend is the most clutch. Then MJ second. I’ve heard you mention it many times.
Was great seeing this guy convert to MJ lol sene some other Lefraud fanboys concert too. Gives me hope haha
Hey. I take heat for it but its what i believe. So I'll say it. Bird is just that guy. MJ is right there with him but life on the line? I'm going bird for the winning shot lol
@ I second that man!
That's not the worse reaction ever. There's few more even more hilarious. My favourite was when certain lebronaphile was ignoring all MJ stats...and finally ragequitting at thanos comparison 🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣
From positive reactions I liked i am nova video.
To be honest, I’ve been watching this kids videos for a long time and he’s done several Jordan reaction videos and in every one at some point says Jordan’s the best player ever. This kid also said that he wants to react to videos of older players, so he can learn the true history of the NBA. He’s reacted to a video of The Dream and one of Larry Bird.
Groovy is not like the other Lebron fans. That's why I sub him and like him being open-minded.
Same here. I'm glad i found him
That buffalo bill is crazy. I cant imagine saying, 3rd time is a charm. And still loat. Then there's the 4th time. And still lost.
I know lol. It was brutal