It's a shame that kids are so out of control and dangerous to themselves and others that businesses have to ban them and close down in order to be safe!
I was walking down the street, where I saw some kids that only a year ago I would have openly said something to about their improper conduct in public almost creating a car accident. I had to think twice and kept my mouth shut. Chances are now high that you could be beat up or worse. Scary world nowadays.
I was once at a Ross when a couple teenagers who were around 15-16 started yelling the proof for the classification of finite simple groups something in Klingon. It took like 2 minutes for them to get kicked out, and they made that location lose like 10% of it’s customers that day.
As a kid, I remember hanging out at a diner with friends, buying food and listening to the jukebox for a couple of hours, no fighting or attacking other people. What's wrong with these kids?
@@ctgal9698 That's true. I used to have a reoccurring dream of dogs eating dogs. I think that this is what this country has become, not just the youth culture but the culture in general. We look up to sociopaths now who are very present in both business and politics.
I work in the building and I approve this law because it’s unsafe when those kids come in and act like animals who are disrespectful and causing fights and are destructive so yes to the owner for wanting to protect his business and workers within his property. Keep your kids at home and teach them manners before acting like you don’t know why this is being done.
I understand u do work in the mall as employee their. But the Malls Market Tactics are gonna hurt business overtime as that mall of Kings Plaza once did. Once Kings Plaza lost store's because of the black Dollar that Mall has never looked and Economical grosss as much since.
with all the teen gangs, teen shoplifting, and just generally teens acting like wild animals these days, plus parents not giving a damn how their kids act out in public, i think this ban should apply at ALL public stores and gathering places.
I live in this area and I heard a bunch of yelling and screaming and it was a group of kids and two of the little girls where fighting. I’m glad the cars stopped and told the kids to leave. They also got scared and started running when the fire department told them to go home on there loudspeaker! Savage little kids
Great move, Atlantic Mall! I have witnessed a lot of teen brawls there just around 3 pm, when kids leave school. Students should be going home, to rest and do their homework. Go to then Mall when finished with chores.😃😃😃
A lot of parents who work. Don't like their teens in the house, when they're not home. My nephew used to sneak his friends in the house when his parents weren't home. They stop letting him be home alone 🤣
The city is falling apart. Whether that mall burns to the ground or not doesn't make a bit of difference. Everything around that mall is a crime ridden garbage dump..
So you never had a life in h.s. .its not always h.w. me and my friends knew how to act we went to queens center and still a nice mall and kids aren't banned in queens center because it doesn't attract the ratchets.. that simple
This is the right move...back in the day the teens would chill out in spots like these being low key and not drawing attention to themselves. But today in public these teens are loud, rude, disrespectful to authority, cursing constantly, and are just standing around not buying anything. Many businesses need to start doing this.
@@mattsa9540you missed the damn point. Nobody said that it wasn’t a problem back then, kids definitely were loud and rowdy back in the 90’s and earlier too. But just that kids nowadays are MORE prone to do this dumb shit, then when you speak up about this kind of thing, you are a Karen that apparently needs to shut the hell up. It may seem dumb but the parents needs to whoop their kids if their spoiled brat is rowdy and disrespectful instead of whining about how this ban is a bad thing and dumb.
I live in Utica NY. We have a mall here: Sangertown: Last week there were more than 50 teens who rumbled in the food court in the afternoon. This was a disaster waiting to happen. Now, all teens under age of 18 are banned from the mall except the employed.
Back in the 2000s, the mall in Syracuse banned anyone under 18 to wander around alone after some bother customers. There were security everywhere. It ended around 2010 I believe after the mall changed its name
This is so sad, as a kid who is turning into their teenage years I love this mall and sometimes plan stuff to visit. It’s so sad to see that even kids older than me have to ruin the experience of hanging out in a mall with friends and get some fast food. Shame on the kids who had ruin it for the others.
Yeah the rest of the country in everything but a large city doesn't act like this. This is just coastal large city problems. It's pretty much only has ever been a coastal issue city problem.
I hate when someone has bad kids and don’t supervise them in public. Making it someone else problem to deal with situations. If your kid can’t behave responsibly and safety without adult supervision then keep your child with you and stop putting other adults (strangers) in the position to deal with your kid. Everybody doesn’t like kids and if the kid is bad that’s a extra bonus. Y’all know your kids are bad and you intentionally let them run around away from home like it’s nothing wrong. And when your kid gets assaulted as a result of their behavior or worse then you wunna show up like you’re a good parent and try to defend them. People don’t want your bad kids around them. Stop acting like it’s nothing. That’s harassment and terrorism to be honest. And everybody don’t think your kid is cute or love them just because you think so. If you want people to be good to your kid and like them then teach them right. Otherwise don’t go around crying about why something happened to them or why no one wants to deal with you or your kid.
Going to any place that is special is a privilege. You act bad you face the consequences to your behavior. I know in the 90's if any child acted bad the wrath was the parent for embarrassing them and the angry looks people gave to you.
back in the 80s when i was a teen, the mall was the place to be. the only time a kid was not allowed in the mall was during school hours...i do not know wtf is wrong with kids today. .blacks,whitse,browns,yellows...we all got along and hung out together back then and there were no brawls and no shootings or stabbings or robbing.
@@manuelvallejo6393 big time! and big boom boxes! across the street from the big mall in peoria was a shopping center with movie theaters, a pizza joint and a huge arcade. they were breakdancing outside the arcade every fri night.
This has been a thing at Atlantic Terminal for VERY long now, as long as April of 2023. It started with Traget, then many other stores within the mall, EVEN MCDONALDS! This was due to the everyday fights after schools that would happen right in front of the mall, including in the mall sometimes. In addition, shoplifting from stores like the Target, and now this is a result. The last time I went there was in September where I had a scheduled job interview at one of the stores in there, and security stopped me and kicked me out saying I need to be 18. They thought I was just b$s them so I couldn't do the interview sadly. But as a teenager myself, this is pretty fricking embarrassing how others can ruin it for everyone. Keeping these malls teen-free is not the best, but the only way to stop people from getting terrorized by them.
@@AsteriskDatBoi As of January 29th 2024 I’m now 18, but needless to say I didn’t get the job in September due to the mall incident lol. And maybe it would have been bad luck anyways since I was still 17 where most businesses aren’t really fond of teenagers because of their immaturity. But as of now I’m still waiting on a few sites to call back, definitely not from the mall though
I have a disability, so my mature and well-behaved teens have done a lot of shopping and errands for our family over the years (grocery store, mall, etc). I understand the need for bans like this, but it really sucks for people who know how to act and need the extra help. Thank goodness for Amazon.
I am starting to think many shops are now taking the "Amazon" route as it protects their inventory and lower cost and overhead. Thus, you will find your desired items listed at their warehouses.
The elephant in the room is the thing that absolutely can't be said or written' anyone who lives near the mall knows, and when groups of teens enter the store they terrorize, do smash and grabs, and there's no accountability and serious product, walks....if they lift the bad, the stores can't remain in business, like so many other businesses...
The is what caused Target to close in Harlem. Perhaps some major electronic stores and pharmacies as well. This also causes stores to increase their prices on their inventory to make up for lost. Thus, the decent patrons who come to shop are stuck with the repercussions of these bad actors.
You mean to tell me that for once, todays teens have to follow rules and obey authority? You mean kids today must learn to respect adults to earn privileges or face consequences for their actions. Sounds a bit harsh, maybe we should ease up😂😂😂🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ (I’m being sarcastic.)
@@libertycommentatorBusiness owners have the right to protect their livelihood and employees. Mall employees and other shoppers also have the right to shop without being bothered and endangered by rowdy teens. It is a shame that those rowdy teens had to ruin it for all teens, but in the end, that “shame” cannot outweigh the previously stated rights of business owners, employees and shoppers. In the end, it is the parents’ fault for raising their kids in such a way that they cannot even be functioning human beings in a mall.
Agreed, but it's not realistic. These brats who cause chaos and mayhem are all living humans so this is the best most practical way to control the situation.@@ge2623
Accountable, what an empty and useless word, since no one is held accountable for anything, including elected officials. Forget about parents. They're too busy trying to get their groove back.
I feel for those kids, it really sucks. As someone who enjoyed Atlantic Terminal as a teen around 2005, who went there every day after school from Brooklyn Tech, I liked going there for the mini Pizza Hut/Gamestop/Funcoland, Circuit City and other places. Some of my first adult purchases were made here. I used to save my lunch money to buy DVDs, and music, CDs and clothes at Target & Old Navy. It sucks that today's kids aren't behaved enough to have nice things. If you're an elder millennial or older you remember when Albee Square, Herald Square, Kings Plaza was the place to be for teens... now kids have nothing, not even arcade machines in the laundromat, it's sad really. After-school is when you met people and developed social skills... what can the kids do now on a day when say it's a half day and they can leave school by noon? More places shutting out teens will lead them to being more isolated and possibly get in more trouble.
You went to a specialized HS. Your school had different kids. Especially in the early 2k's. I really wish the city could identify the sources of this issue. It's really dangerous.
I lived in this area and I shopped in that exact mall almost 10+ years ago. It has always been a hang out spot for teens and young adults. Delinquent crime is one reason (and, heck, there have been teen skirmishes at and around this location for years -- I remember the 2015 stabbing incident of a teen and melee near this mall) BUT a bigger reason that the report didn't touch on is the risk that long-time anchors at that mall like Target could suddenly pull out of that mall, creating a possible ripple effect with other businesses closing in the mall and in that area. Atlantic Terminal doesn't want a repeat of the disaster that was the closure of Target in East Harlem last year. They'll take any measures they can lawfully do to stop that from happening.
Honest question… think about your childhood. Think about all of the places you and your friends hung out at. The mall, the arcade, the movies, the rec center, the park, meet ups in parking lots, stoop parties, etc… and think about today… honest question… where CAN young people go without being shooed off. We say kids spend too much time inside and on TikTok, and yet we have people calling the cops on them just for gathering literally anywhere 😂
@@racool911 pretty sure if kids walked around just aimlessly talking in most neighborhoods nowadays, the cops would be called on them in 30mins, and the darker skinned children might just never make it home that day smh lol
@@LuisRodriguez-ns9mo right the good old days of the 90s full of gangsta and death metal! lol no, haha I know what you mean… I guess I have to wonder and no in conflict but in true honest wonder… 1. Whose fault is it that kids don’t know how to act, and 2. Is it really ok for us ban teens from everywhere and is that helping the problem or creating new problems? And they are just questions that I hope aren’t answered by “oh well guys kids can’t live nowadays, sorry!”
I couldn’t have said it any better myself. It depresses me that many of us are trying to make prisoners out of our youth. When I have kids, I just hope that I can provide them the freedom that society is trying to take away.
Glad this is happening. Most kids and teens, primarily those who currently reside in the projects and the hood, do not know how to behave themselves anyways and some of the parents often enable their behavior.
I know what you mean... All those teen school snipers and mass deleters were all raised in those horrible projects and those awful hoods. Teenagers like Kyle Rittenhouse's mother enabled his behavior. Heck she even drove him to commit his atrocities. Good Mama.... Jennifer Crumbley just got convicted for enabling her son. But, you know what's strange ? None of those people ever lived in the projects or the hood. Go Figure.....
You’re fine with kids not having places to hangout or have fun. But what the hell do I know? You’re someone that’s fine making kids work 14 hour shifts while paying them $5 an hour
@@subzerofromny735where did you get those statements from? He didn’t mention anything about wages… Also if people can’t behave then they are punished. It’s just the consequences of their actions. If your child brought their friends home with them, and the friend breaks stuff purposefully in the house, you aren’t going to let that friend come back
That’s what happens when adults fail to teach kids right from wrong and the meaning of respect at a young age…..since KINDERGARTEN! They need his guidance or this is how they end up.
I am from NYC. While I totally understand the mall's stance and there will always be out of control kids who have yet to mature, why don't we address how unaffordable of a society we live in. When you offer kids who probably go to school with less than $5 on their person and leave them with no options to entertain and socialize what do you expect? All they have are video games or the park (who wants to go to the park when its cold?) When I was a kid, I could go to a batting cage and spend $1 for 10 baseballs, eat a hot dog for $1.50 or go to an arcade and spend less than $10 an hour with my friends. The other month I called a batting cage to inquire about prices and was told it would be $120 for 45 mins. And we wonder why these things happen. We shouldn't tolerate anti-social behavior but perhaps if prices were lower for younger people to socialize properly and they had more affordable options to enjoy their youth we would see less pent up rage, less disrespectful behavior, more smiles, more happiness.
How about going to the library and studying more after school or getting an after school job??? Isn’t one of the biggest libraries down around there in Brooklyn??? Why do they need to go to a mall to socialize? They socialize in school.
Good report, just a locator note: Atlantic mall is nowhere near Flatbush (the neighborhood). It's in Fort Green. You'd even be semi accurate in calling it Prospect Heights or Downtown Brooklyn.
I agree. Perhaps the parents dont want deal with them either having realize they should have disciplined them much younger. Now the Police and dept of corrections have to do the parenting job! I understand sex feels good but you to also realize that kids come out that situation and if you are not psychologically prepared for the out come then your off spring would become a liability to society (criminals, offenders, etc).
@@DeltaRaptoranSadly I feel that its not their intentions. Many years ago, I recalled being in an elevator overhearing a woman (of this urban stock)speaking on phone, discussing how to increase her "government resources", approaching the option to get pregnant again for more benenfits!! They want to kids to get more welfare, etc. That is sad because is is truly selling our kids for wealth no different from the plantation owners. That is why you would see these kinds of women on the businesses subways wearing popular brands while their kids are wearing cheapter attire. I know that is because they are young and growing but I cannot find justification why are they being a $1200 winter coat while receiving SNAP? The top Iphone model in contrast to the base model. Another issue I have is that i feels like the tax payer is paying three levels of resources for these kinds of people. 1 - welfare, 2- education which their children dont care about anyway, and 3 - liability - many will find themselves in jail and reading to go on "the system". So the cycle continues.
I live right by that mall. I pass there all the time. I was there a few weeks ago with my parents and there were 11 teens in there unaccompanied just being annoying and running all over the place. And at target, I saw a teenager in a shopping cart riding the cart escalator and an employee shouted at them to leave. And security kicked them out too I saw. Later that day, I saw a video on Instagram of teens doing bad stunts in the mall from skateboarding to drinking alcohol. So frustrating that they can’t allow teens in there because of their actions. They need to control and respect the public spaces they enter.
The real issue with gangs is that they always want to fight over territory where they don’t own a square foot of property. They’re claiming ownership of land that isn’t theirs. We need to end that mindset.
It's a good idea. But, It's not going to work. That mall has about 20 entrances. There are hundreds of teenagers that go in and out. 95% of them are trouble makers. They are shoplifting and fighting.
It actually works. They have security guards at the doors who definitely refuse teens from coming in. I’ve seen an adult pretend to be with a group of teens to get them entrance & the security told them no.
You don't know what you're talking about. Security is posted at all exits & entrances. It's really sad that it has to be this way. But I've seen insane shoplifting &brawls. No parent in sight. If you're going to act like a criminal, get used to being treated like one.
I believe that! Kids today seem to have no aspirations for a better life. Before they know it they'll be 40 years old wondering "What have I done with my life?"
I agree. I go to mall early in the morning at 10:00 when the mall opens. The kids are skipping school to grab and steal. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen teenagers grab stuff and ran out the store
I actually used to like Atlantic Terminal when I visit NYC, mostly for the Target and convenience location near a friends house. AT has seen a bit of issues lately which is likely why they're making this change. Good on them.
Used to goto this mall but got frustrating at the amount of Teens brawling and generally in the way around the 3pm hours. Passed quite a few adults in that area having conversations about child misbehavior and how theyd handle it etc. To be honestt that mall is in the epicenter of multiple highschool walking paths so its no surprise teens hang out there after school.But yea those people I heard were correct Parents are to blame for wild acting teens. They dont check their behavior.
A mall is a place of business and not a "hangout" for teens with nothing better to do with themselves.. Teens these days are too full of themselves and think they can do anything anywhere and not receive backlash for their bad behavior.
Adults like you are full of themselves as well. And by your logic, nowhere should be a hangout place because literally every store is a place of business.
There’s one issue though. Imagine if a parent is disabled and can’t leave the house and a 16 year old is asked to get them groceries and the grocery store kicked them out for being underaged and not with a parent.
It’s where they go to steal and be disrespectful. They use the fast food dining area as a hang out even though they’re not dining. I’ve experienced that place when the kids get out of school.
When you don't socialize your children ☠️ No Spiritual principles taught anywhere No after school programs No sports No arts Higher cost of living parents absent working around clock. failing the children big time
Some of the individuals that were interviewed have clearly never shopped at Atlantic Mall. I've personally witnessed teenagers smashing the glass that houses electronic devices at Target, engage in fights with security guards and at one point, with police officers. They run up and down the escalators pushing anyone who gets in their way. It's a shame it had to come to this.
It's a shame that minors are banned from malls (probably most malls in my home state NJ) while malls were designed for kids without cars to go hangout. I went to the mall all the time in my late teens without adults even after I got my license at 17 when I could go to the mall alone all the time. Never had to have an adult. I am now 25.
FINALLY❤❤❤❤❤ I applaud these businesses for saying enough is enough. These kids are out of control. I say this as a teacher who deals with children daily. Parents you need to do better
Yeah, that's what we need. Teenagers do not need to congregate in the mall where they could potentially start trouble of all kinds. Teenagers need to go home to study and do their homework.
Yes, forget any kind of social life for the teens. They just need to stay home when not at school. (I get school is important and I took it seriously as a teen but I think socialization is healthy as well)
@@zDarkWind5 teenagers don't need to go to the mall to have a social life. There are plenty of ways to have a social life other than going to the mall.
@@Impozalla I was referring to the last part of your comment where you said “Teenagers need to go home and study and do their homework” Perhaps I overgeneralized your comment and if so I apologize but I thought you mean their lives should be school, then home.
I just went there a couple of weeks ago and saw security at the door stopping teens wanting to see their ID. Just sad how these low life criminals cause all this misery to the innocent. Proof that wokism hurts these communities instead of helping them
would they be wrong and say y’all not the main ones causing the problems? Maybe act accordingly in public instead of like uncivilized people that can’t control yall angry or resolve simple issues without conflict. But keep blaming on your skin color 🤡 btw im black 💋
It’s getting everywhere like that . While shopping over the weekend I noticed several stores had signs all over saying no one under 18 allowed without an adult and no large groups.
Nobody's going to stop them from coming in without an adult or parent. Most of these wonderful kids don't have "parents". They do whatever they feel like. Normal day in big cities.
I have zero issue with this. As for the bad apple guy - we are going to allow these hardened criminals to date your daughter - come some are innocent so it is unfair to judge them all. THere are plenty of places children should not be allowed (planes, romantic nice restaurants, grocery stores...)
It's a shame that kids are so out of control and dangerous to themselves and others that businesses have to ban them and close down in order to be safe!
It's not a shame, it's an inevitability.
Only black kids and kings plaza they crazy to
@@crystalvouse6435😳😳😳😳
no one to blame but the parents time to shame the parents of kids that ack out
I was walking down the street, where I saw some kids that only a year ago I would have openly said something to about their improper conduct in public almost creating a car accident. I had to think twice and kept my mouth shut. Chances are now high that you could be beat up or worse. Scary world nowadays.
A few can ruin it for everyone. Bad parents need to be held to accountability.
One, it's not teens and kids. Second, it's not a few. If I had my way, no usual suspects would be allowed in my place of business.
The bad parents chaperoning them would do no good then duh lol
I was once at a Ross when a couple teenagers who were around 15-16 started yelling the proof for the classification of finite simple groups something in Klingon. It took like 2 minutes for them to get kicked out, and they made that location lose like 10% of it’s customers that day.
@bataremerson1970
It’s the same problem in schools. No student or parent accountability.
The sad thing is it's not a few anymore. It's like the few are the ones not causing trouble.
As a kid, I remember hanging out at a diner with friends, buying food and listening to the jukebox for a couple of hours, no fighting or attacking other people. What's wrong with these kids?
They're listening to drill and gangster rap music with their hooligan friends while you listened to love songs on the jukebox, huge difference
Our parents would not tolerate bad behavior.
@@ctgal9698 That's true. I used to have a reoccurring dream of dogs eating dogs. I think that this is what this country has become, not just the youth culture but the culture in general. We look up to sociopaths now who are very present in both business and politics.
Parents are no longer parents
Us.
I work in the building and I approve this law because it’s unsafe when those kids come in and act like animals who are disrespectful and causing fights and are destructive so yes to the owner for wanting to protect his business and workers within his property. Keep your kids at home and teach them manners before acting like you don’t know why this is being done.
It’s happening everywhere they are out, looks insane and selfish all the time.
No this is racist and must stop
BLM ✊🏿🐀👨🏿💩💩
Yea those yt kids sure are trouble. Said no one ever.
Agreed! I live 10 mins walk away same issues daily way too many kids acting wild.
I understand u do work in the mall as employee their. But the Malls Market Tactics are gonna hurt business overtime as that mall of Kings Plaza once did. Once Kings Plaza lost store's because of the black Dollar that Mall has never looked and Economical grosss as much since.
I guess thats what happens when you let your children terrorize the neighborhood without repercussions throwing gang signs they make me sick
Dont know how to read write but know their gang signs, about right.
@@MS-st1zbLiterally.
"Rebels Without A Cause" .
Gang signs, twerking, fighting, and stealing.
Time 006 to 013 Target audience flashing gang signs. . . ..
Bad parenting is the cause of bad behavior in teens who don’t teach them self respect and how to act in public
with all the teen gangs, teen shoplifting, and just generally teens acting like wild animals these days, plus parents not giving a damn how their kids act out in public, i think this ban should apply at ALL public stores and gathering places.
It's a certain demographic that causes 99% of the problems
I live in this area and I heard a bunch of yelling and screaming and it was a group of kids and two of the little girls where fighting. I’m glad the cars stopped and told the kids to leave. They also got scared and started running when the fire department told them to go home on there loudspeaker! Savage little kids
@@123..0.Oop and what is the certain demographic?
Like they always do?
YT kids mass shooting in malls are the scariest and most common.
Great move, Atlantic Mall! I have witnessed a lot of teen brawls there just around 3 pm, when kids leave school. Students should be going home, to rest and do their homework. Go to then Mall when finished with chores.😃😃😃
or library for an hour......
Totally 👍
A lot of parents who work. Don't like their teens in the house, when they're not home. My nephew used to sneak his friends in the house when his parents weren't home. They stop letting him be home alone 🤣
The city is falling apart. Whether that mall burns to the ground or not doesn't make a bit of difference. Everything around that mall is a crime ridden garbage dump..
So you never had a life in h.s. .its not always h.w. me and my friends knew how to act we went to queens center and still a nice mall and kids aren't banned in queens center because it doesn't attract the ratchets.. that simple
This is the right move...back in the day the teens would chill out in spots like these being low key and not drawing attention to themselves. But today in public these teens are loud, rude, disrespectful to authority, cursing constantly, and are just standing around not buying anything. Many businesses need to start doing this.
Yea what the heck are they doing? If you’re just chilling it shouldn’t be a problem
You’re saying like kids werent like this in your day
@mattsa9540 But more kids are like that today than back then, that's for sure
@@mattsa9540you missed the damn point. Nobody said that it wasn’t a problem back then, kids definitely were loud and rowdy back in the 90’s and earlier too.
But just that kids nowadays are MORE prone to do this dumb shit, then when you speak up about this kind of thing, you are a Karen that apparently needs to shut the hell up.
It may seem dumb but the parents needs to whoop their kids if their spoiled brat is rowdy and disrespectful instead of whining about how this ban is a bad thing and dumb.
"Back in my day, kids weren't like this..."
-Any person over 30 from literally any point in human history
I live in Utica NY. We have a mall here: Sangertown: Last week there were more than 50 teens who rumbled in the food court in the afternoon. This was a disaster waiting to happen. Now, all teens under age of 18 are banned from the mall except the employed.
Ayeee. Im in Buffalo. Go Bills
Let me guess, the usual suspects?
Back in the 2000s, the mall in Syracuse banned anyone under 18 to wander around alone after some bother customers. There were security everywhere. It ended around 2010 I believe after the mall changed its name
This is exactly what Kings Plaza Mall need to do.
Yes for sure
All malls citywide need to do this.
Kings plaza did this a couple times but nothing permanent
What's that mall like anyway?
KP and Bay plaza.
This is so sad, as a kid who is turning into their teenage years I love this mall and sometimes plan stuff to visit. It’s so sad to see that even kids older than me have to ruin the experience of hanging out in a mall with friends and get some fast food. Shame on the kids who had ruin it for the others.
The parents who DONT parent are to blame for that.
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They should do this all over the country.
All of the country don't need this just the big cities
Yeah the rest of the country in everything but a large city doesn't act like this. This is just coastal large city problems. It's pretty much only has ever been a coastal issue city problem.
@@mrcassonova1some small cities do
This is mainly a liberal city problem.
@javiruiz8365 what small cities that isn't run by liberals?
Taking initiative. I like.
Yep. I'm never trusting these spawns.😂
I hate when someone has bad kids and don’t supervise them in public. Making it someone else problem to deal with situations. If your kid can’t behave responsibly and safety without adult supervision then keep your child with you and stop putting other adults (strangers) in the position to deal with your kid. Everybody doesn’t like kids and if the kid is bad that’s a extra bonus. Y’all know your kids are bad and you intentionally let them run around away from home like it’s nothing wrong. And when your kid gets assaulted as a result of their behavior or worse then you wunna show up like you’re a good parent and try to defend them. People don’t want your bad kids around them. Stop acting like it’s nothing. That’s harassment and terrorism to be honest. And everybody don’t think your kid is cute or love them just because you think so. If you want people to be good to your kid and like them then teach them right. Otherwise don’t go around crying about why something happened to them or why no one wants to deal with you or your kid.
that is 90% of parents now days
Going to any place that is special is a privilege. You act bad you face the consequences to your behavior.
I know in the 90's if any child acted bad the wrath was the parent for embarrassing them and the angry looks people gave to you.
that is the problem parents are not being shamed for there kids acting out anymore
Spoilt brats
back in the 80s when i was a teen, the mall was the place to be. the only time a kid was not allowed in the mall was during school hours...i do not know wtf is wrong with kids today. .blacks,whitse,browns,yellows...we all got along and hung out together back then and there were no brawls and no shootings or stabbings or robbing.
Vote Red and maybe things will go back to normal
There was lots of breakdancing going on too.
@@manuelvallejo6393 big time! and big boom boxes! across the street from the big mall in peoria was a shopping center with movie theaters, a pizza joint and a huge arcade. they were breakdancing outside the arcade every fri night.
parents are not being shamed like they used to be when there kids acted up
@@TheClaws666 or maybe not.
This has been a thing at Atlantic Terminal for VERY long now, as long as April of 2023. It started with Traget, then many other stores within the mall, EVEN MCDONALDS! This was due to the everyday fights after schools that would happen right in front of the mall, including in the mall sometimes. In addition, shoplifting from stores like the Target, and now this is a result. The last time I went there was in September where I had a scheduled job interview at one of the stores in there, and security stopped me and kicked me out saying I need to be 18. They thought I was just b$s them so I couldn't do the interview sadly. But as a teenager myself, this is pretty fricking embarrassing how others can ruin it for everyone. Keeping these malls teen-free is not the best, but the only way to stop people from getting terrorized by them.
What happen to you now? Did you get a job? How old are you?
@@AsteriskDatBoi As of January 29th 2024 I’m now 18, but needless to say I didn’t get the job in September due to the mall incident lol. And maybe it would have been bad luck anyways since I was still 17 where most businesses aren’t really fond of teenagers because of their immaturity. But as of now I’m still waiting on a few sites to call back, definitely not from the mall though
@@skrakaayyyyy_itzyostep should you go back to the mall because your legal now and what is your job now?
U probably dodged a bullet!😮
@@AsteriskDatBoi you should try your luck at the Applebees upstairs in the 2nd floor, I worked there when I was in high school still
I have a disability, so my mature and well-behaved teens have done a lot of shopping and errands for our family over the years (grocery store, mall, etc). I understand the need for bans like this, but it really sucks for people who know how to act and need the extra help.
Thank goodness for Amazon.
And that's exactly what bans like this will produce. More people shopping online. Because that will be what they grew up with.
I am starting to think many shops are now taking the "Amazon" route as it protects their inventory and lower cost and overhead. Thus, you will find your desired items listed at their warehouses.
The elephant in the room is the thing that absolutely can't be said or written' anyone who lives near the mall knows, and when groups of teens enter the store they terrorize, do smash and grabs, and there's no accountability and serious product, walks....if they lift the bad, the stores can't remain in business, like so many other businesses...
The is what caused Target to close in Harlem. Perhaps some major electronic stores and pharmacies as well. This also causes stores to increase their prices on their inventory to make up for lost. Thus, the decent patrons who come to shop are stuck with the repercussions of these bad actors.
Man, this ban really sucks, but it is their right. All the good kids under 18 must be upset as heck!
You mean to tell me that for once, todays teens have to follow rules and obey authority? You mean kids today must learn to respect adults to earn privileges or face consequences for their actions.
Sounds a bit harsh, maybe we should ease up😂😂😂🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ (I’m being sarcastic.)
@@amylee8969why punish all kids just because a few of them got rowdy? That’s like punishing all cops for Derek Chauvin!
@@libertycommentatora lot of kids did not just a little
right? Imagine putting a ban on a particular racial group because they do majority of the crime???Would that fly?
@@libertycommentatorBusiness owners have the right to protect their livelihood and employees. Mall employees and other shoppers also have the right to shop without being bothered and endangered by rowdy teens. It is a shame that those rowdy teens had to ruin it for all teens, but in the end, that “shame” cannot outweigh the previously stated rights of business owners, employees and shoppers. In the end, it is the parents’ fault for raising their kids in such a way that they cannot even be functioning human beings in a mall.
It's sad that this has to even be done, but at least it'll force parents to be accountable and be active in their lives.
If you have to be "forced" to, then you shouldn't be breeding.
@@ge2623👀
Agreed, but it's not realistic. These brats who cause chaos and mayhem are all living humans so this is the best most practical way to control the situation.@@ge2623
Accountable, what an empty and useless word, since no one is held accountable for anything, including elected officials. Forget about parents. They're too busy trying to get their groove back.
I feel for those kids, it really sucks.
As someone who enjoyed Atlantic Terminal as a teen around 2005, who went there every day after school from Brooklyn Tech, I liked going there for the mini Pizza Hut/Gamestop/Funcoland, Circuit City and other places. Some of my first adult purchases were made here. I used to save my lunch money to buy DVDs, and music, CDs and clothes at Target & Old Navy.
It sucks that today's kids aren't behaved enough to have nice things.
If you're an elder millennial or older you remember when Albee Square, Herald Square, Kings Plaza was the place to be for teens... now kids have nothing, not even arcade machines in the laundromat, it's sad really. After-school is when you met people and developed social skills... what can the kids do now on a day when say it's a half day and they can leave school by noon? More places shutting out teens will lead them to being more isolated and possibly get in more trouble.
Yasss for Albee Square and Herald Square. If you were Jazzy the mall under the World Trade center was it too!!!
The problem isn’t them being in the mall it’s their behavior in the mall.
Luckily online video games are a thing now
Well when their parents teach them manners they can come back 🙃
You went to a specialized HS. Your school had different kids. Especially in the early 2k's. I really wish the city could identify the sources of this issue. It's really dangerous.
I lived in this area and I shopped in that exact mall almost 10+ years ago. It has always been a hang out spot for teens and young adults. Delinquent crime is one reason (and, heck, there have been teen skirmishes at and around this location for years -- I remember the 2015 stabbing incident of a teen and melee near this mall) BUT a bigger reason that the report didn't touch on is the risk that long-time anchors at that mall like Target could suddenly pull out of that mall, creating a possible ripple effect with other businesses closing in the mall and in that area. Atlantic Terminal doesn't want a repeat of the disaster that was the closure of Target in East Harlem last year. They'll take any measures they can lawfully do to stop that from happening.
Great work guys 🎉🎉🎉
Honest question… think about your childhood. Think about all of the places you and your friends hung out at. The mall, the arcade, the movies, the rec center, the park, meet ups in parking lots, stoop parties, etc… and think about today… honest question… where CAN young people go without being shooed off. We say kids spend too much time inside and on TikTok, and yet we have people calling the cops on them just for gathering literally anywhere 😂
In my childhood we just walked around the neighborhood and played video games together. Also played soccer in a nearby field.
I hated going to malls.
@@racool911 pretty sure if kids walked around just aimlessly talking in most neighborhoods nowadays, the cops would be called on them in 30mins, and the darker skinned children might just never make it home that day smh lol
Nowadays most of the kids and teenagers do NOT behave.. in fact they act like wild animals. Extremely disrespectful. It’s a different situation.
@@LuisRodriguez-ns9mo right the good old days of the 90s full of gangsta and death metal! lol no, haha I know what you mean… I guess I have to wonder and no in conflict but in true honest wonder… 1. Whose fault is it that kids don’t know how to act, and 2. Is it really ok for us ban teens from everywhere and is that helping the problem or creating new problems? And they are just questions that I hope aren’t answered by “oh well guys kids can’t live nowadays, sorry!”
I couldn’t have said it any better myself. It depresses me that many of us are trying to make prisoners out of our youth. When I have kids, I just hope that I can provide them the freedom that society is trying to take away.
Glad this is happening. Most kids and teens, primarily those who currently reside in the projects and the hood, do not know how to behave themselves anyways and some of the parents often enable their behavior.
I know what you mean... All those teen school snipers and mass deleters were all raised in those horrible projects and those awful hoods. Teenagers like Kyle Rittenhouse's mother enabled his behavior. Heck she even drove him to commit his atrocities. Good Mama.... Jennifer Crumbley just got convicted for enabling her son. But, you know what's strange ? None of those people ever lived in the projects or the hood. Go Figure.....
@@Han9emA11 I literally said the parents enable their behavior, but okay.
@@Han9emA11 My fault for misinterpreting you.
You’re fine with kids not having places to hangout or have fun. But what the hell do I know? You’re someone that’s fine making kids work 14 hour shifts while paying them $5 an hour
@@subzerofromny735where did you get those statements from? He didn’t mention anything about wages…
Also if people can’t behave then they are punished. It’s just the consequences of their actions.
If your child brought their friends home with them, and the friend breaks stuff purposefully in the house, you aren’t going to let that friend come back
Good move. Movie Theatres, too
These are strange times…
Civil War is almost here.
always been this way bro.
THIS IS A VERY GOOD STRATEGY.
How sway?
@@blackscorpio224 You have no upbringing, it seems. You wild animal raised?
Until a kid is instantly kicked out a grocery store just for being underage with a grocery list for a disabled parent.
Sad that cops have to take the initiative of doing what parents today fail to do. Which is teach their kids right Vs wrong.
This is crazy. I remember back in the 1991, I hangout on the mall as 11 years old without adult or cops around. It was such a nice day.
Yeah because we didn’t act like no gremlin.😂
1991 was different time when we did not have teens intimidating adults on daily basis.
We need a TSA style pre-check for minors. Kids without a criminal record are allowed into adult environments
The reason this is happening is "insurance" costs and "lawsuits".
@brooklynborn83 pretty sure you miss my point. But that's okay 🙂
Then they need to just close the mall. Sadly, Half these teenagers nowadays have criminal records.
That should include trains and any public transportation because those same people cause trouble in the trains and cause delays
Why don't their single moms raise them to be good citizens???
This area after school has way too many kids acting like idiots with no consequences.
That’s what happens when adults fail to teach kids right from wrong and the meaning of respect at a young age…..since KINDERGARTEN! They need his guidance or this is how they end up.
It’s not a bit much dude these teens are a terror
I am from NYC.
While I totally understand the mall's stance and there will always be out of control kids who have yet to mature, why don't we address how unaffordable of a society we live in. When you offer kids who probably go to school with less than $5 on their person and leave them with no options to entertain and socialize what do you expect? All they have are video games or the park (who wants to go to the park when its cold?)
When I was a kid, I could go to a batting cage and spend $1 for 10 baseballs, eat a hot dog for $1.50 or go to an arcade and spend less than $10 an hour with my friends.
The other month I called a batting cage to inquire about prices and was told it would be $120 for 45 mins. And we wonder why these things happen. We shouldn't tolerate anti-social behavior but perhaps if prices were lower for younger people to socialize properly and they had more affordable options to enjoy their youth we would see less pent up rage, less disrespectful behavior, more smiles, more happiness.
How about going to the library and studying more after school or getting an after school job??? Isn’t one of the biggest libraries down around there in Brooklyn??? Why do they need to go to a mall to socialize? They socialize in school.
@@susanmarino2883 Library. LOL cmon
Good report, just a locator note: Atlantic mall is nowhere near Flatbush (the neighborhood). It's in Fort Green. You'd even be semi accurate in calling it Prospect Heights or Downtown Brooklyn.
Next week they’ll call Spanish Harlem the upper east side.
they are in front of green screens faking it most of the time anyway.
I think the Flatbush they were referring to in the video was Flatbush Avenue which goes by Atlantic Terminal.
It’s really Fort Greene/ Downtown Brooklyn area
The entrance on one side is on Flatbush
Animals must be treated like animals.
Animals are BETTER than SAVAGES
I grew up on a farm. The livestock rarely decided to trash the barn and the horses didn't tag their paddock.
So school shooters aren’t animals either ?
Wondering if they are banning the young people from working for minimum wage at the stores in the mall?
Employee
Sounds like an exception
These children have no home training. A bunch of bad apples that are spoiling it for well behaved teens.
Send em to boarding school! That’ll shape em up, and maybe take parenting classes
“It’s a mall , that’s where hs student are suppose to hangout” perfectly said!!
What's a parent??!!
It ain’t apparent to me….
Haa! Nice
Good question.
Someone that guides you and teaches you values and decency!
And also someone that nurtures you!
The days of teens at the mall alone are gone. The few violent ones are out of control and have ruined it for everyone.
Next, kids will be forced into homeschooling b/c more and more teachers will quit b/c if out of control kids and no consequences.
A MALL IS NOT YOUR BABYSITTER, you and your gremlin kids need to go!
I agree. Perhaps the parents dont want deal with them either having realize they should have disciplined them much younger. Now the Police and dept of corrections have to do the parenting job! I understand sex feels good but you to also realize that kids come out that situation and if you are not psychologically prepared for the out come then your off spring would become a liability to society (criminals, offenders, etc).
@deenforce1142 Yeah, more people should know/care about contraception.
@@DeltaRaptoranSadly I feel that its not their intentions. Many years ago, I recalled being in an elevator overhearing a woman (of this urban stock)speaking on phone, discussing how to increase her "government resources", approaching the option to get pregnant again for more benenfits!! They want to kids to get more welfare, etc. That is sad because is is truly selling our kids for wealth no different from the plantation owners. That is why you would see these kinds of women on the businesses subways wearing popular brands while their kids are wearing cheapter attire. I know that is because they are young and growing but I cannot find justification why are they being a $1200 winter coat while receiving SNAP? The top Iphone model in contrast to the base model. Another issue I have is that i feels like the tax payer is paying three levels of resources for these kinds of people. 1 - welfare, 2- education which their children dont care about anyway, and 3 - liability - many will find themselves in jail and reading to go on "the system". So the cycle continues.
Gremlin? That was a '70s AMC car!
I live right by that mall. I pass there all the time. I was there a few weeks ago with my parents and there were 11 teens in there unaccompanied just being annoying and running all over the place. And at target, I saw a teenager in a shopping cart riding the cart escalator and an employee shouted at them to leave. And security kicked them out too I saw. Later that day, I saw a video on Instagram of teens doing bad stunts in the mall from skateboarding to drinking alcohol. So frustrating that they can’t allow teens in there because of their actions. They need to control and respect the public spaces they enter.
Great move its about time
Put the kids through a 2 week millitary training class of how to act in public and treat people then they can go out and about without supervision.
OK BOOMER
I think that they used to call that home training.
the parents need to be shamed when there kids acted out like they use to do in the old days
As a millennial I think they should take charm School because I see these girls acting like wildebeest. No etiquette
the parents them selves are also in gangs and do bad sh1t, lets stop acting like its not. @@scruf153
The real issue with gangs is that they always want to fight over territory where they don’t own a square foot of property. They’re claiming ownership of land that isn’t theirs. We need to end that mindset.
The issue is blacks
It's a good idea. But, It's not going to work. That mall has about 20 entrances. There are hundreds of teenagers that go in and out. 95% of them are trouble makers. They are shoplifting and fighting.
It actually has been working and they’ve actually been enforcing this rule for quite some time now. I’ve definitely seen how effective it is
It actually works. They have security guards at the doors who definitely refuse teens from coming in. I’ve seen an adult pretend to be with a group of teens to get them entrance & the security told them no.
You don't know what you're talking about. Security is posted at all exits & entrances. It's really sad that it has to be this way. But I've seen insane shoplifting &brawls. No parent in sight. If you're going to act like a criminal, get used to being treated like one.
I believe that! Kids today seem to have no aspirations for a better life. Before they know it they'll be 40 years old wondering "What have I done with my life?"
@@greendesertgoddess and they're all aging terribly too. they look malnourished. nutrient depleted just like their favorite rappers
The bad apples spoil the bunch.
The kids are rowdy and lack proper manners and respect. It’s a reflection of poor parenting or lack of it.
I agree. I go to mall early in the morning at 10:00 when the mall opens. The kids are skipping school to grab and steal. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen teenagers grab stuff and ran out the store
They is going to do this to every mall. They need to because the kids these days is rude and dangerous.
I used to shop there
7 years ago it was calm and safe ! I wouldn't go there now this is a warning shop at ur own risk
I actually used to like Atlantic Terminal when I visit NYC, mostly for the Target and convenience location near a friends house. AT has seen a bit of issues lately which is likely why they're making this change. Good on them.
You need to be over 18 to steal from the mall now.
😂😂😂
You just make sure you apply this to ALL KIDS. "Not to just certain types"
Used to goto this mall but got frustrating at the amount of Teens brawling and generally in the way around the 3pm hours. Passed quite a few adults in that area having conversations about child misbehavior and how theyd handle it etc. To be honestt that mall is in the epicenter of multiple highschool walking paths so its no surprise teens hang out there after school.But yea those people I heard were correct Parents are to blame for wild acting teens. They dont check their behavior.
Meanwhile school have NO BUDGET for
After School programs or
Mentoring Program. But budget to create more prisons😢 is endless
A mall is a place of business and not a "hangout" for teens with nothing better to do with themselves.. Teens these days are too full of themselves and think they can do anything anywhere and not receive backlash for their bad behavior.
Adults like you are full of themselves as well. And by your logic, nowhere should be a hangout place because literally every store is a place of business.
Age discrimination.... While the military is checking bags un warranted in the subway... They should change the name of the city to York
Good idea......those kids are rowdy and out of control
Good. I live in New York and there are MOBS of them there after 3. They are a freaking menace!!
This should be a national law now. Sad but its the reality of the times were living in. Parents need to be charged with what there kids do also.
There’s one issue though. Imagine if a parent is disabled and can’t leave the house and a 16 year old is asked to get them groceries and the grocery store kicked them out for being underaged and not with a parent.
It’s where they go to steal and be disrespectful. They use the fast food dining area as a hang out even though they’re not dining. I’ve experienced that place when the kids get out of school.
They messed up for doing this in February but I remember Kings Plaza did the same like 20 years ago 🤣
It would be simpler to just segregate the mall
this is the quality of life we have now
When you don't socialize your children ☠️
No Spiritual principles taught anywhere
No after school programs
No sports
No arts
Higher cost of living parents absent working around clock. failing the children big time
Oh dear lord…I’d get turned away without ID because I look like I’m 15-16.
I’m actually almost 21…
Some of the individuals that were interviewed have clearly never shopped at Atlantic Mall. I've personally witnessed teenagers smashing the glass that houses electronic devices at Target, engage in fights with security guards and at one point, with police officers. They run up and down the escalators pushing anyone who gets in their way. It's a shame it had to come to this.
Can't parent if you're glued to a phone
I support this. I hope this spreads along with childfree zones.
Funny how the one lady saying everyone pretty behaved here is holding her purse with both her hands.
It's a shame that minors are banned from malls (probably most malls in my home state NJ) while malls were designed for kids without cars to go hangout. I went to the mall all the time in my late teens without adults even after I got my license at 17 when I could go to the mall alone all the time. Never had to have an adult. I am now 25.
Telling black kids you must be with an adult is like asking them to go find their fathers. Lol
@EchoAccordYou got me 😁
Lmaoo😭
Very disrespectful. Not they job to find the father it’s the fathers jobs to find they kids . Not funny at all
Ikr! It’s like telling white kids “don’t bring a gun to school” lol
@@ChialukaGoldThat was a burn hotter than McDonald’s coffee. Bravo!
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I applaud these businesses for saying enough is enough. These kids are out of control. I say this as a teacher who deals with children daily. Parents you need to do better
In New York, you don't need any ID to vote. But you're going to need an ID to simply enter a mall... That sounds about right.
Ummm. Yes you do need ID to vote. They match your Name to the registry
Are you dumb? You do need an id to vote.
I made a fort at home and called it a Mall. I was broke AF 😂😂😂
Yeah, that's what we need. Teenagers do not need to congregate in the mall where they could potentially start trouble of all kinds. Teenagers need to go home to study and do their homework.
Yes, forget any kind of social life for the teens. They just need to stay home when not at school. (I get school is important and I took it seriously as a teen but I think socialization is healthy as well)
@@zDarkWind5 teenagers don't need to go to the mall to have a social life. There are plenty of ways to have a social life other than going to the mall.
@@Impozalla I was referring to the last part of your comment where you said “Teenagers need to go home and study and do their homework” Perhaps I overgeneralized your comment and if so I apologize but I thought you mean their lives should be school, then home.
@@ImpozallaLike?
I just went there a couple of weeks ago and saw security at the door stopping teens wanting to see their ID. Just sad how these low life criminals cause all this misery to the innocent. Proof that wokism hurts these communities instead of helping them
In America you are innocent until proven guilty.
Good, I think they should implement that everywhere. Implement it in queens center mall, Roosevelt field mall, American dream mall.
Can you imagine being a teenager working at a mall? And being Constantly stop by security every day 😅
I have worked at a mall and I had to be there right before opening, every day I went through a security check as an employee. It’s totally normal.
Yes! Thank you for keeping out the "bad apples" 💩✊🏿
would they be wrong and say y’all not the main ones causing the problems? Maybe act accordingly in public instead of like uncivilized people that can’t control yall angry or resolve simple issues without conflict. But keep blaming on your skin color 🤡 btw im black 💋
I don't blame the mall and shop owners. Teenagers aren't going to buy anything except fast food, and too many of them are thugs and thieves.
These parents don’t care bout they kids they gon do what they wanna
It’s getting everywhere like that . While shopping over the weekend I noticed several stores had signs all over saying no one under 18 allowed without an adult and no large groups.
"Minors"😂😂😂 they really mean something else.
Good! Tired of these damn kids who parents don’t give them rules destroying stuff and not even caring about the consequences 💯💯
Keep ‘em on a leash.
Usually the teens now adays go to malls to steal. This generation of youth needs to take accountability 🤷.
Looting Gangs!.. Wake Up America 🙄
Simply parenting skill issue😂
Jail without bail. Crimes get time. That’s a start. Good move by the malls.
It’s not a coincidence that they pointed the camera at the blacks at the beginning
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Nobody's going to stop them from coming in without an adult or parent. Most of these wonderful kids don't have "parents".
They do whatever they feel like. Normal day in big cities.
already found the loop hole.... freshly turned 18 year old *adult* accompanies his 16 and 17 year old *minor* friends 😂
It’s not just about the actual ID/age, the security personnel also look at the appearance and how someone is acting when they are about to enter.
When I was a kid 30 years ago, they did this at the mall by my house. No big deal.
I have zero issue with this. As for the bad apple guy - we are going to allow these hardened criminals to date your daughter - come some are innocent so it is unfair to judge them all. THere are plenty of places children should not be allowed (planes, romantic nice restaurants, grocery stores...)
It breaks my heart that independent kids with good behavior have to put up with this crap