The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/ndmd10211 What's your experience in academic research? A joyful experience or a necessary evil?
SO well said and I agree with you 1000% about med student/premed research. I was so burned out from premed research due to the exact things you mentioned
I got away with doing ZERO research in undergrad and still getting into med school. I want to be a doctor not a researcher, otherwise I would have pursued a different career obviously. But, doing things you don't want to in order to eventually get what you want is not unique to medicine. Had to do it to get into college, to get into med school, and now residency. At least we know the rules, now it's time to play the game!
Research is such a double edged sword. Especially when doing the grunt work. Hate how it's used as a yardstick for residency. For me it often ignores the individual. There's so much more to a candidate than the number of publications they have. Sorry about your bad experiences. I've been there too. Not nice to feel exploited/played. Cool that you're doing a NLP project though. I feel like student evaluations are more useful for identifying poor traits than good ones. I like these sit down, talking videos. Keep up the great work!
thank you! i know it's definitely different than the usual vlogs but it's a more concerning topic in medicine that i've wanted to talk about for a while. my hope is program directors understand, but it is hard to erase these long standing ways of evaluating students overnight
@@NDMD Yeah, mate. These things are difficult to change. For me, the softer qualities like empathy, compassion, insight, people skills etc are much better measures for what makes a good doctor. Of course these are harder to measure than objective things like publications. Anyway, hopefully these things will change with time. When you're the program director I'm sure things will be different 😏
100% agree with you! Very well said. I'm not super interested in research (did some in undergrad but didn't fall in love with it) but I feel like it's going to be necessary to do to match into a decent residency.
Good video as always :) One thing with the videos is the music is typically a lot louder than the speaking parts so I end up adjusting the volume back and forth so I can hear what you're saying. If you brought the music level down just a bit, it might help!
Hey Andy, is there a particular regimen or recipe for researching in undergrad? I'm a freshman and I'm not really sure when I should start reasearch or how much is necessary to look good for med school. Also your videos are phenomenal and have helped me immensely with turning my self doubt into determination to become a physician.
first advice: you're a freshman, don't worry about it until later. focus on GPA and leadership now and then research in your later years when you have more foundational knowledge to understand half the words in an academic manuscript. it always looks great for med schools but not a deal breaker!
i did do research in undergrad but got lucky and did clinical research, so i didn't have to experience wet lab research. it's not necessary but one of the best ways to look impressive in the application process especially if you present at conferences or publish. plus tons of connections you can make along the way
4:30 agreed! it sucks that nice feedback doesn't do anything and AI is set to pick up on keywords - basically content over context, but in interviews, it's the opposite. so it makes no sense. it ends up being kind of like a resume checklist when it shouldn't be bc a person is giving feedback, so the more personable it is, the better?!
Kaur Beauty did "research" for her derm residency application. She was just a glorified admin that read research papers. i hope she makes a video about how reading those research papers was medical research. What she just helping the legal team with patent certifications? Master students read research papers in the first terms to get them ready to do actual research. Really curious.
mmm doing "research" - actually you were just gathering a "number" for the MBAs. MBAs love to reduce employees to a bunch of numbers hihi- is different than being a researcher. A researcher does not know that they spend 8 hours in the lab, the work is all-consuming, even when you are "piping" hihi and you are discovering meaningful stuff that might help patients or the welfare of the world someday. Can the people that got their names on the paper talk about the research for hours? A researcher will. The difference between a scientific researcher talking about their research(which could apply to astrophysics, and robotics) is vastly different than someone talking about the research they are doing.
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What's your experience in academic research? A joyful experience or a necessary evil?
What's your email? Wanted to ask you some questions of your 73 questions with videos.
Thanks!
SO well said and I agree with you 1000% about med student/premed research. I was so burned out from premed research due to the exact things you mentioned
big sign you should not apply MD PHD.
I got away with doing ZERO research in undergrad and still getting into med school. I want to be a doctor not a researcher, otherwise I would have pursued a different career obviously. But, doing things you don't want to in order to eventually get what you want is not unique to medicine. Had to do it to get into college, to get into med school, and now residency. At least we know the rules, now it's time to play the game!
Research is such a double edged sword. Especially when doing the grunt work. Hate how it's used as a yardstick for residency. For me it often ignores the individual. There's so much more to a candidate than the number of publications they have. Sorry about your bad experiences. I've been there too. Not nice to feel exploited/played.
Cool that you're doing a NLP project though. I feel like student evaluations are more useful for identifying poor traits than good ones.
I like these sit down, talking videos. Keep up the great work!
thank you! i know it's definitely different than the usual vlogs but it's a more concerning topic in medicine that i've wanted to talk about for a while. my hope is program directors understand, but it is hard to erase these long standing ways of evaluating students overnight
@@NDMD Yeah, mate. These things are difficult to change. For me, the softer qualities like empathy, compassion, insight, people skills etc are much better measures for what makes a good doctor. Of course these are harder to measure than objective things like publications. Anyway, hopefully these things will change with time. When you're the program director I'm sure things will be different 😏
100% agree with you! Very well said. I'm not super interested in research (did some in undergrad but didn't fall in love with it) but I feel like it's going to be necessary to do to match into a decent residency.
your content is so refreshing thank you so much
thank you so much :)
I dont know but i feel sometimes research in med school is “forced?” I didnt like it 😵💫
exactly
Good video as always :) One thing with the videos is the music is typically a lot louder than the speaking parts so I end up adjusting the volume back and forth so I can hear what you're saying. If you brought the music level down just a bit, it might help!
Speaking the truth on many med students’ minds
You have no idea how relatable this video is!!!
0:30 I had the exact same Anki card pulled up at this exact moment while watching this video 😂😂
Hahaha great minds think alike
Thanks for being so honest. This was extremely enlightening. Keep doing you!
Good, insightful video. Sorry that you had those bad experiences when doing research.
So, you will put in social media experience in residency program application. Or like residency program interview.
Hey Andy, is there a particular regimen or recipe for researching in undergrad? I'm a freshman and I'm not really sure when I should start reasearch or how much is necessary to look good for med school.
Also your videos are phenomenal and have helped me immensely with turning my self doubt into determination to become a physician.
first advice: you're a freshman, don't worry about it until later. focus on GPA and leadership now and then research in your later years when you have more foundational knowledge to understand half the words in an academic manuscript. it always looks great for med schools but not a deal breaker!
wow thanks for not talking bs, this hits true to home
Hopefully you are doing okay! I was actually wondering on your thoughts on research as a premed? Did you participate in research as an undergrad?
i did do research in undergrad but got lucky and did clinical research, so i didn't have to experience wet lab research. it's not necessary but one of the best ways to look impressive in the application process especially if you present at conferences or publish. plus tons of connections you can make along the way
4:30 agreed! it sucks that nice feedback doesn't do anything and AI is set to pick up on keywords - basically content over context, but in interviews, it's the opposite. so it makes no sense. it ends up being kind of like a resume checklist when it shouldn't be bc a person is giving feedback, so the more personable it is, the better?!
How do you look for heart of an individual with A.I?
exactly
Hey how do you use iPad and Mac book in medical school?
Thankyou so much for a well needed vedio i too love and fear the name research
Kaur Beauty did "research" for her derm residency application. She was just a glorified admin that read research papers. i hope she makes a video about how reading those research papers was medical research. What she just helping the legal team with patent certifications? Master students read research papers in the first terms to get them ready to do actual research. Really curious.
8:15 same - that's how the whole admissions process fells like
Hate how step 1 is now pass/fail. What happened to meritocracy? Now matching into residency will be more subjective rather than deserved.
sounds like it's about who you know sadly?
16:05 - for sure ,stick to your passions
Living longer and healthier . eradicate diseases that are common amongst the elderly. very hard.
hey can you please tell me are u done with step 1, please make a few vides about step 1
won't take step 1 until early 2023. my med school does it differently now that it is p/f
How do you become an ND and MD?
mmm doing "research" - actually you were just gathering a "number" for the MBAs. MBAs love to reduce employees to a bunch of numbers hihi- is different than being a researcher.
A researcher does not know that they spend 8 hours in the lab, the work is all-consuming, even when you are "piping" hihi and you are discovering meaningful stuff that might help patients or the welfare of the world someday.
Can the people that got their names on the paper talk about the research for hours? A researcher will. The difference between a scientific researcher talking about their research(which could apply to astrophysics, and robotics) is vastly different than someone talking about the research they are doing.
First one yay! Can I pls get a shoutout
Dude belongs in SF, so hipster lol
Why?