Unbelievable 50 Watt Stereo Amp For Under £100
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2021
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The HB works great.I have one, quilter has a 45 watt one with some eq on it and a smaller wall wort. but cost more. I have one on my board for back up or monitor, use it in practice as well, but remember the giant wall worts, it was fun stuffing it under my board, thanks Rob. cheers
I've been running an EHX .44Magnum on my pedalboard for years and it's doing great. Now you need to try out the Mooer Friedman (012 model) and you'll be blown away even more. Use it with a drive pedal and you can either have the clean channel crunchy or the lead channel with extreme gain.
I have the GPA-400 I run with my Helix and Friedman 4x12. It’s pretty much mind blowing how good it sounds. The option for stereo is awesome too.
I’ve been using the Joyo/HB Ultimate Drive as my main drive sound for years. I actually bought a few extra a couple of years ago when they started becoming increasingly popular.
Yes a brilliant drive, sounds identical to an OCD.
Would that be 50 watts peak power?
Great demo rob thanks so much better than many on you tube. It’s not the gpa100 which I just got on eBay but it’s close enough and you definitely have given me a good idea of how good these things can sound. So thanks all the best cheers chappers. 🎸😊🤟
Bought one about six months ago. Fantastic. The only downside is the power brick is bigger than the pedal.
Sounds better than many tube-amps!
What a sound!
Indeed, the drive pedal sounds great in this setup. I can't believe it. I am afraid to loose a lot when I substitute my valve rack power amps for a pedal power amp in my homestudio. Can you describe the difference in sound and feel (sag/compression) to a tube power amp?
sounds great mr chapman sweeeeeeet guitar and sound sir
The HB ultimate drive into HB American Tone (as a Fenderish preamp, btw did you try it? ) + a good delay/reverb into this powerhouse and you are good to go.
Hey Rob, i use the neural dsp gojira plugin. I got a scarlett, can i use the scarlett to send a signal to the power stage and then amplify a cabinet ? Thanks in advance , really enjoying my bea mensis chapman!
Victory v4 preamp pedal into amptweaker depth finder into mooer baby bomb.
Didn't go for the HB stuff because there were tons of noise reports and 'I am getting shocked by it ' (as in, you feel power through your body:)). But that was the first version, I believe this is the 2nd one.
Victory v4 doesn't count as solid-state now I realize :). Still, its my rig on a single pedal board. I unplug the mooer and the depth finder and connect the AMT VirginCab vc16 to use as poweramp sim and IR loader when I'm at home and need to keep volume in check.
Hi,
I have a bit of a long winded question for you, apologies in advance.
I've recently bought a Bugera 6262 212 combo amp, and the amp says it should be set to 16 ohms for internal speakers. It has a single 6.3mm speaker lead but two speakers and whatever the input source is it should be 16 ohms.
I'm actually going to bypass the speakers and plug into an axetrack isolation cab I managed to get, it's a speaker and an SM57 in a sealed box. It uses the input from where the amp would usually go to a cab, so the amp gets full use, it just goes to the iso speaker instead of the combo speakers. The SM57 picks it up, there's an XLR out which I'm planning to connect to a Behringer UMC22.
That plugs into a computer and has headphones out, but to be honest I'm not that bothered about recording, I'm basically using the whole setup as an analog attenuator with air and a mic rather than limiting the signal electronically. I'd like to get the output from the UMC22 to go to the speakers on the amp that I'm using instead of through PC or headphones, I asked on Amazon and someone said that the signal would need a power amp otherwise it would be too weak for the speakers.
So my chain is:
Guitar > amp section of Bugera 6262 212 combo > iso box with sm57 > xlr > Behringer UMC22 > ...... > speaker section of Bugera 6262 212 combo
Can I output from the UMC22 into the Harley Benton Thunder 99, amplify without colouring the sound (at least not too much), then send to the speakers in my 6262 cab?
This way I'd be getting all the tone of a cranked up AND cranked speakers, picking up that sound and being able to hear it, AND being able to play without a DAW when I want but also being able to use one when I do but still hearing the sound from a cab with zero latency.
The goal is to get the sound of a cranked amp AND speakers that are really pushing air, but at bedroom levels, something attenuators can't do because they lower the signal so the speakers don't work as hard.
So what I really need is a way to cleanly amplify the SM57 and get it playing out of my the speakers that are in the combo.
So do you think it would work and be safe? I'd rather use my amp speakers than buying more.
I don't know, I'm very confused lol.
Sorry it's such a long question and thanks for your time.
Will I have similar results using the fx loop of a joyo zombie 2? I'm asking cause the price difference isn't that much and I'll have that nice distortion as well!
Rob, absolutely love your content mate.. please do a review on the CST-24 please!!!!
I've been tinkering with using my Katana 50 MkII as a powered cab, and using an Orange OMEC hooked to an iPhone running Biasfx, and switching it with a MidiCommander foot controller. It's honestly quite stupid how good it sounds that I'm thinking of getting a second Katana for stereo/dual amp tones of the cheap. A "poor man's" Helix/Fractal if you will. The OMEC also handles drive pedals in the front, so it's quite frankly been blowing my mind a bit. I've actually wanted to shoot a series of demos on how I've been using the OMEC, and went as far as emailing Orange regarding it with an encouraging reply, but unfortunately life threw me a series of challenges soon afterwards. Perhaps now's the time to get on that I'm thinking.
Great demo Monkey Lord!
Stay safe & well mate!
Cheers!
Thank You Rob. Putting one somewhere in the arsenal. Maybe a new to go board.
Solid state rig. I’ve been playing around with a Seymour Duncan power stage 170 with revival drive hot rod, boss ge7 and a fender tre-verb also tried an ehx 5mm but its a bit too noisy.
I use one of these to bump my Spark into my 4x12 celestions! Works amazing!!!
Ooh, do share how.
Curious about noodling with it placed between drive, dirt etc. and all the ambient things.
Glad you’re keeping well Rob. Hope to meet you again soon mate. All the best.
Play it in a little band jam session to see how well it does. Looks like a cool piece of gear for low volume jamming at home or even as a back up rig for someone who gigs.
I do something similar but as my main rig 😁 a Seymour Duncan powerstage 200, a Model FeT pedal as my edge of break up clean (based on the preamp of a Sunn model T), a Redbeard effects Red Mist MK4 into that as my dirty self imploding sound, and an EQD Arrows as a clean boost for leads 😁 sounds awesome
Correct Sound Custom does good stomper Sunn clones, too. They're cheap but you have to wait for them. I hope to get one at some point, just to have one come into existence even if I don't ultimately keep it (saving up for an ohnmacht). :-)
@@russellzauner think I may have spotted them on reverb before, they do look quite interesting. I think the ohmacht looks awesome but 200 watts is far too much for me to use ha ha, they Ohmen however I have my eye on
Was thinking about this. I think silver jubilee 20 watt Marshall with a captor x and a small pedalboard will give a carry rig that’s awesome
Can't quite see them. Are you using a preamp or just basically pedals please. Oh, do you have any comparison compared to the ehx Poweramp pedals. Cheers
So as far as power goes, this little box will run a 2 x 12 cabinet with no other power or boost pedal?
Nice bro...good looking out for us economically challenged musicians...lol...more bang for my bucks the better..ty brother
Use it it power speakers with a multi-effects pedal? Headrush, Line6, Ampero, etc.I can see popping a couple of small cabinets on it...
Wow , unbelievable...I want one
I love my Thunder 99 🤘🏽🤘🏽
3:44 those are the most ridiculous calluses I have ever seen! The strings have no choice but to slide in those grooves in your fingers. Keep shredding Chappers! 🔥🎸
Thanks bro, yep I give my hands no mercy LOL, thank you for watching :-)
Rob, this pedal being adequate beyond a beginner accessory is not very surprising. I own a Harley Benton dual humbucker T-style guitar and while the electronics may leave something to be desired the body and neck are simply fabulous. As artists we all have an envisioned sound that we are chasing and too often a stock format by manufacturers costing 10 times the amount do not scratch that itch which places us in a position where we are switching out hardware and wiring sequences to get us closer to what we hear in our heads. Let's face it not everyone has the financial means to have manufacturers like Fender, Gibson, and such build us a custom one of signature model so a great body and neck combo that is uber affordable like you get with Harley Benton is a fantastic starting point.
Harley Benton offers average small time gigging musicians affordable options that do not sound like complete garbage. They fill the gap by scratching an often overlooked niche itch. Thanks for the demo and your opinion.
Excellent ☮️
What!!! That sounded Awesome and it really shouldn't have.. Awesome!!!!
As of this posting, One Thing I Feared #4 on the Spotity MODERN BLUES ROCK PLAYLIST!🍾
Hey Rob, could you demo the Bogner Atman that's on the shelf behind you? :-)
So the inputs are regular TS cable inputs, and the outputs are for quarter inch speaker cables? I mean that's what I'm thinking if it's supposed to be an amp that goes direct to a cabinet it needs speaker cables, correct?
Hi Frank, yep you will need speaker cables, use it exactly as you would a normal amplifier :-)
Oh shit! Repping Michigan with the mule guitars shirt! Hello from the suburbs of Detroit!! 🤘🤘
Damn that guitar is beautiful
agree
Now to develop such a gadget for the bottom end. True my Fender 200w x15 has a total weight of about 35lb; but to have it in a pedal would be just wonderful.
The bassist for a band I’m friends with uses a Seymour Duncan Powerstage. Not sure which one but it works. That could be your option
I watch your videos for many years and you seem to be a really awesome person. Id like to meet you in person and jam! If you come to Portugal, we should drink some beer!
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹
Nice idea. Got one from Thomann, but had to return it as I was getting shocks from the casing. Other people have reported this issue so I hope Thomann has acted and sorted out the problems.
Sounds like a grounding issue which is really scary with 240V
I’m a firm believer in Thomann products , have mics ,guitars both acoustic & electric , and their drums are as good as anything out there & their speaker cabs are really good
Very nice little power amp!
You're missing a clean preamp pedal, I wish you'd upload another video with a clean preamp pedal just before the HB power amp :)
It does actually sound very marshallesque. Chappers. Very nice.
What cab did you run with this. What ohms is it rated/set at? Will it run a single or two 4x12 or a single or two 2x12 and what speaker ratings are recommended and how should the cabs be wired?
Hello super zombie, I was using an eight homes one by 12 bad cat cabinet equipped with a Celestin 12 inch speaker. The answer to all of your other questions is on the Thomann website, thank you for watching :-)
I do love a stereo guitar rig. :) Apparently it's 50 W per channel into 4 ohms, which could account for seeming equivalent to a 30 W valve amp (which has me wondering if the impedance matching is one reason valve amps "seem" louder). Class D amps are ridiculously efficient: the input power specs are 24 V x 4.5 A, which is only 108 W in for 2 x 50 W out!
Not even close to a 30w valve amp.My 90w class d speakers (each biamp) are very low volume compering to a 10w valve amp.
Lots of these amp in a pedal now, to be really useful they need an effects loop, or you are driving it with reverb on, which is not what you want normally.
Thanks Rob...excellent info on pedal!👏
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Hey Rob you need to try a Be Od with ah solid state power its sound absoulte imense
How about the Electroharmonix 44 magnum?
It would be interesting to see a Torpedo CABM or Iridium in front of it.
Doesn't really make sense to run the simulation of a cab into a real cab?
@@MikeSingSing common stuf ,why not? it's just like another sound color
I was thinking the clean preamp of the two notes with pedals to make a complete rig.
Good enough to power a heil talkbox?
Where does this fit in the signal chain?
It looks like:
Guitar > HB99 > Pedals > Speaker cab
But I would have thought this should sit just before the speaker so:
Guitar > Pedals> HB99 > Speaker?
Should be instrument -> pedal/s -> HB99/amp -> Spkr...as you mentioned.
Of coarse, given that I'm not there in the room to hear it, and am listening to it from a youtube video coming off my computer into some Audio-Technica headphones...that thing sounds fantastic...that being said, I think it falls more in a 6L6 type of tone vs an EL34 type of tone...could be completely wrong there, but my point of reference is I used to have an Egnater Renegade 4 by 10 combo that had both in it, and you can dial to one set of power tubes, or to the other set, or dial in a blend of both...EL34's giving a tone that leans more to a VOX...thanks for posting this one, Rob...hope you and yours are well!
El34 's are more known for being in Marshalls type, or Orange amps. I think Vox is known for the el84.
How hot does the Power pedal get?
So the power supply is 24 volts at a little over 2 amps? Is it originally for a computer? Does it come with one? And if not, could I just use a computer supply? Those I've already got.
Includes 24 V / 4.5 A power supply which yeah it seems like a regular notebook power supply
Demo the quad cortex please chappers
I want one of these for my HX stomp!
I was just thinking I wonder how this would do with my stomp.. lol
@@robsII Hey man go check out Johnnathan Cordy. He is the helix master haha, hes done a vid recently on a similar unit :)
Rob good amp bud.
What are you using for a pre amp? I don't see one there.
Pretty sure thats what the Ultimate Drive is doing
Great product if your'e only playing guitar through it but with mine there is a problem when your'e singing while playing. It gives small annoying electric shocks from microphone grill to your lips which is quite frightening. I guess there is a grounding issue as the same problem doesn't occur in our practice place when playing with a real amp. If you check Thomann's reviews of the pedal you can see there are several other people who has faced the same issue. I've had two of these as the first one i got had its switch broken and Thomann sent me another one. Both of the pedals i've owned has the same problem with electric shocks which should be a recall case in my opinion.
I also faced this pb, it happened to me when i used to much isolated stuff , power supplie or slitter
It seems yo have a floating ground
I use it now as a power amp for wdw, and since amp and racks are grounded i have no issues and no ground loop and no phase issues between amp and power amp
I’m not sure if the plug and voltage on this will work in the USA but I’ve been wanting to give one a try to use with my headrush gigboard...since I don’t know if it will work I’ve been checking out the Carvin Mach100 which is basically the same thing, but a little more expensive. But if anybody has one of these who’s located in the States let me know.
How's the headrush for metal? Looking at that and a helix and trying to decide for mostly home use
@@devinwillis7787 I really like it! Especially for home use because it’s just soo much easier to create your own tone and start playing right away and not menu diving forever. But I think it sounds pretty good and has a good bit of options.
Hi! Yes they work fine in the states. I have 2 of them. It's because they use an ac adaptor rather than an internal power supply which renders the 220/110 issue moot. The only thing you have to do is replace the included U.K. power cord that plugs into the brick with a U.S. one, which you probably have a few laying around the house already :)
@@reverendtos4271 thanks soo much for the help and info! I may have to get one and try it now that I know.
@@usmcyounggun6879 No problem brutha. The little things are amazing. I use them for metal driving 2 2x12 Randall cabs. They're quiet, sound great, and louder than Satan. I've used mine weekly for 2 years and both run like a top with no problems. They don't bridge though, so make sure you're either running 2 cabs or a single cab that accepts stereo inputs \m/
To actually emulate something like a Roland Jazz Chorus, you might need two chorus pedals and a stereo setup since the trademark sound is an odd Leslie emulation making it kind of sound Doppler-y by running the chorus at two different speeds, one on each channel.
So now if you have a stereo instrument DSP that also has stereo out you can put that with this and make a sketchy 50W jazz chorus simulator for the cost of a week of coffees if you have a software DSP.
Ibanez or Maxon Bi- chorus is good for that; if you can get one!
I saw your vid and got all excited and decided this is just what I need on my board cus I like Harley Benton generally and this doesn't cost a lot of money. However, in the inevitable wind-up between 'yes I want one' and putting the money down I began to doubt my reasoning, to such a degree that I thought "put your concern in the comments and perhaps someone will provide illumination". My dilemma is this; if I buy this amp/pedal I still need a speaker cab. I have a (HB) Vintage 30 cab (very nice). But the cab is (almost) as big as my Marshall DSL401 or my Vox AC10 - so why do I bother with this little gizmo? The real dilemma therefore is, it would appear surplus to requirement....but I want one.....I need professional help......
And a preamp.
@@user-be9ey4jb3c is that as well as, or instead of, professional help?
Dang - I thought you were going to say "I love the smell of a hot valve amp in the morning..."
Maybe you could do a quick vid comparing this to a Bad Cat
What’s the guitar Rob?
Is it loud enough for band practice with drums?
50 Watt @4Ohm should be plenty loud to play against drums - just don't run it into a 16 Ohm cab
@@ayeapprove thx mate
From about 9:10 on your tone sounds just like Satriani's on ... Always with Me, Always with You (from Satriani LIVE!) which btw, is on RUclips.
I know what you mean, it does have that quality to it, absolutely love that tone always been a huge Satriani fan! Thanks for watching :-)
Chappy did you move to an island where it is warm ? Also looks like you weathered the storm people are so cruel are you done doing Andertons ?
Uninformed person here, do you just have the pedal board plugged into the speaker with no "top thing"? If so can you just plug the pedal board into a PA mixing board?
I was literally thinking the exact same thing thing , I'm pretty sure you can do what you said
Yes. He is plugged only into his speaker cabinet, no amp head (top thing).
He's plugged into a speaker but you won't want to plug straight into a PA system mixing board or you might fry it 🙂 (although headphone out into the mixing board should be fine)
The "problem" on going to directly to a PA is the cab. Digital pedalboars (usually) have cab simulators, so can go straight to a PA and sound like a ...well, cab. This rig cannot go directly because a) doesn't have a cab sim and b) 50watt output into a PA will fry everything (probably).
This is indeed a version of the top thing without any tone controls and such.
You could in theory plug direct into a PA, but that would sound horrible. Guitar speakers have a very pronounced and HEAVY frequency response, they are as a drastic eq filter. Anf then you have the microphone you normally use for recording the guitar cabinet. That also does a lot to the sound.
Plugging direct into PA would need this added somehow. This is what 'ir loaders 'do. There are also pure analog cabinet emulators in pedal format.
Plugging distortion directly into a PA or mix desk without those filters will sound terrible!
But in the early days of recording, for _clean_ sounds sometimes they plugged directly into the desk. Still happens with bass guitars sometimes.
I thought a Boss Katana was you'refavorite amp?
Thought so too 😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂
This or the GPA 100..?
The thing about you Rob I’ve always noticed is you play better on better equipment, if you are reviewing guitars other than your own, I always know, either you found a lucky gem, or they are just good guitars.
I wouldn’t expect that little box by that brand to be worth anything, but when you play that fluidly, I know it’s real……
6.40m wow!
Eq?
Add Harley Benton British True Tone after Ultimate Drive to that and You have complete rig
They should make different models like: Plexi, JCM800, 5150, etc….
What do you mean? There is no preamp used here in this demo ;)
Didnt show the power supply which is nearly bigger than the pedal itself.
it needs to be
I have read in customers comments that you can get a shock when touching this unit. If this is true then it has an isolation problem.
Your skull is very large n shiny!!!!
Rob Chapman's bad as hell boy.
I as going to get one of those until I read the reviews. Seems to be a lot of folk getting electric shocks from them !?????
The big reveal was the price.
Sounds great, but... for £160 I got a 50W Katana mk1, small, light and loud enough to gig with, with every sound you could need. With this, you still need a cab.
Agreed, I would use this primarily as a backup at a gig or on tour :-)
Piss off to the 23 who gave thumbs down. Try golf you'll suck at that to...great review brother!
Ha ha it’s okay bro, every single interaction feeds the algorithm in a positive way so whether videos are disliked or liked it doesn’t really matter… for example a video that had 1 million dislikes would still be pushed up the charts.
Put a pre amp before it and you are good to go
This or you could get the Hotone Mojo Attack which has 75 Watt @ 4 Ohm and a preamp built into it. It's just a little more expensive at 140 EUR
Tone control would be good
Usually you'll have a presence control but it's just a solid state power amp with no tonal controls. Just get a preamp pedal instead of a drive
LOL.... we wont tell anyone your fave amp is actually a Kemper... ;^)
Sounds a little underwhelming but maybe as a cheap backup option?
the power amp doesn't really sound like much on it's own, use a proper preamp pedal in the chain before it.
I'm a make a amp brand and call it good dog lol I don't reckon they could sue me
Rob, you're wealthy man and you don't even rely on your You Tube channel, can you stop with the click bait please?
One thing that looks weird to me though, is this;
Why would Bad Cat wanna work with someone who, as soon as he got his hands on a bunch of expensive custom amps,
got live with a video trying his best to find a solution for a amp-free pedalboard rig, to skip his expensive heads?
If I was doing PR or working with Artist Relations for that company, I'd question your commitment.
No hate, just wondering.
Brands that i forget whooaahaha meaning don't get paid by.
I know the feeling. My pedalboard is a preamp pedal into an Electro-Harmonix 44 Magnum. The ability to power a speaker cab from the pedalboard, that is SO CONVENIENT, and I absolutely love it. Better yet, they WILL keep up with anyone's 100w 5150 any day of the week of the year. So yeah. You don't need a fancy and bulky traditional amp head. Just get a pedal power amp. Problem solved.
And if you want a different sound, just switch out the preamp pedal. You want a Marshall sound? Use a Tone City Golden Plexi. You want an Orange sound? Use a Wampler Catapulp. You want a Rectifier sound? Use a Wampler Triple Wreck. You cannot do that with traditional heads. With traditional heads, you get what you get.
So yeah. I am a huge supporter of preamp pedals, power amp pedals, and the combination of the two.
go the Rogan look mate--shave ya head dude, i reckon itll look good.
I do but it keeps growing back LOL
Mmm valvy’s on a hot sumzee
Rob is endorsed by so many companies that really, ANYTHING he praises is not worth listening to. No offence, but if you work for a firm you will say that firm is the best won't you.
That's as maybe, but a) Thomann have many products so one could be forgiven for believing Mr. Chapman chooses products he truly likes, and b) I own several Harley Benton products (eg. their Vintage 30 cab; an attenuator; a guitar) and they are c) excellent and d) truly amazing for the stupidly cheap price. I don't work for Thomann but if they want to slip me a fiver to post replies like this throughout youtube, I'm up for it. [what's with all this a, b, c nonsense?...]. And I still don't know why I would need this Thunder 99....
It was more pleasant to listen if guitar was in tune.