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Your music rocks man. Really. It inspires me to play when I'm able due to health problems. Much appreciated kind sir. I really mean that. Great channel and keep up the great work man!
I had a Micro Dark for a bit. Great amp, but I never once thought of possibly running the FX send into my interface with an IR loader. I wonder if that would even potentially work out well? I may just have to get one again and try that out. You know, for science! LMAO!
8 great cheap amps & 4 to avoid 01:09 Op.1 Orange Micro Dark (€169, Hybrid amp, 20W) 03:25 Op. 2 Marshall DSL1 CR (€279, Tube/valve amp, 1W) 06:13 Avoid 1 Peavey Bandit 112 (€375, Transistor, 80W) 07:44 Op. 3 Fender Mustang Lt 25 (€159, Modeling amp, 25W, one 8 inch speaker) 10:05 Op. 4 Marshall Origin 20 Head (€379, Tube, 20W) 11:48 Avoid 2 Marshall 5W combo (€222, Valve amp) 13:41 Op. 5 Joyo Jackman II (€149, Hybrid amp, 2 channels) 16:38 Honorable mention Roland Micro Cube (€?) 17:04 Op.6 Boss Katana Mini (€91, Digital amp) 19:32 Avoid 3 Fender Champion 50 XL (€?, clean it's ok) 22:20 Op.6 Spark Amp (€299, Digital amp) 25:59 Avoid 4 Marshal Code (€?, Digital amp) 28:58 Op.7 Harley Benton Tube 15 (€250, clean/crunch channels, Tube amp, 15W) I have a Peavey Bandit 112 and I am absolutly agree about this review, but for me this amp it's Ok, cause I use the clean channel for platform pedals, I bought it new in €200 & it's too loud, for the price was a better option.
@@CaseyKoplinCk13The High Gain is only good for Thrash and Hardcore, which is just like all of the 'Red Stripe,' 'Teal Stripe,' and 'Gray Stripe' Peaveys of yore. So they've been pretty consistent, as far as sound is concerned.
That Joyo amp was really impressive, I thought it sounded the best then looked at the price, couldn't believe it. I think getting this and a good cab might be the best option if you're on a budget as the sound is already pretty convincing and having the cab helps your flexibility in the long term.
I second the motion! , I too really liked that Joyo, I am definitely gonna have to go check it out ! , as it maybe possible for me to squeeze it into my ever shrinking budget ! cheers :)
Damn dude your playing is unbelievable - you make it look effortless. Im especially impressed with how relaxed your right hand seems during those lightening fast flourishes. You could make any amp sound good!
The HB Tube 15 amp was a wonderful surprise to me and paired with the HB G112 Vintage speaker cab with the Celestion Vintage 30 speaker it has become my favorite sound. I have tube Marshalls, Blackstar Mk II, Bugera V5 and a few others, but The HB Tube 15 has become my recording and gigging amp now for the last 5 months. Thanks for your expertise and valued opinions, most of the time I agree with you.
@@_josemillos The amp is very good quality chassis, Celestion 70/80 speaker is fine, and mine came with JJ tubes. I play it about 10-12 hours during the week and it has been very reliable with no complaints. The sound and tone is not "thin" in any way, it sounds wonderful and can be made to sound clean and sparkly or very crunchy according to the gain applied. It is my favorite amp by far and I have a couple of Marshalls, a Bugera v5, a Blackstar HT5 mark ll and several different solid state and modeling amps. It is my favorite and go to amp. BUY IT, it's the best bang for the buck amp on the market.
how do you like your bugera v5? I'm planning to get one instead of the tube 15, much too loud for home use. I'd also need to use a voltage transformer for the tube 15 which would be a pain. It'll be my first tube amp.
@@dammitcarl1082 I like my Bugera V5 amp. I also like my HB Tube15 and it does get much louder than the v5. For home the Bugera is nice on .1-1w or 5w settings plus you can use headphones where the HB15 does not have an earphone jack. The Bugera is sweet.
All I can say is thank you, Elmo! This was probably the most useful video I've ever seen on RUclips. I had never heard of the Harley Benton, which is not common in the U.S., but after watching countless videos, I stumbled upon yours and immediately bought the Harley Benton and could not be more happy. It's a fantastic amp and suits my needs perfectly. Thank you!!
The Peavey Bandit and the Orange Crush 120 are the ONLY S.S. Amps I would even CONSIDER playing live!!!!! Of COURSE I’m thinking of ‘84-87 Bandits. Great little solid states
Is a peavy bandit 75 a good choice because i was thinking about picking one up? Also was looking at a line 6 spider IV, but im pretty new to guitar and dont know much about amps, so idk which one i should get
Avoid #5: Fender Frontman 10g. The guitars in the packages that the majority of these amps are sold with are often really good guitars for the price, but the Fender Frontman 10g has to be the worst amp ever made for overdriven tones: even the clean tones are just okay. It’s not that much more expensive to buy just the Squier Bullet Strat or Tele by itself, and something like a fender champion 20, which is miles better than the Frontman. I also got the extra padded road runner gig bag, but Fender are known for durability so this isn’t a must unless you really bang stuff around.
Definately avoid the Fender Frontman 212R my wife bought me on as a birthday gift years ago and it has many problems on top of just sounding awfull even for it's price range. hate to part with it since it was a gift so it just sits in my shop next to my drumkit collecting dust.
@@777bigbird Yeah the larger ones are fine inexpensive amps, but the number stands for wattage. The 10 is less than half the power than the 25, and has a tiny speaker in it.
I am the happy owner of a Rolland Cube 40 MK I, and it's one of the best buys I have ever done. The modeling section is OK, but what's awesome is the integrated looper. My guitar playing really got going from the moment I started jamming over phrases. I still use it today for full band practices - and I am been told once in a while to tone it down so loud it can get. Never got to push it past 7, and nowadays I'm more like 3ish. With drums and bass and vocal and stuff. Great little friend, but the hero word is: looper.
I'm a mostly happy owner of a Cube 60, I too mostly like the modelling & the EFX , but sadly no Looper for Paul :((((( sigh ! oh well, the biggest problem I have with mine is the volume control !!! I can't turn it down low enough for practice sessions lOL! , so can identify on that score! , 3 to 4 is about the limit ! , anything much above that, the neighbors will be calling the cops LOL!
@@pwrrpw319 Indeed heh. Just looked it up, and it doesn't seem to have an attenuation feature either, which would be helpful to you. When I used mine in house, I always had that feature on, otherwise I would have had to adjust it between 0.25 and 0.75, which isn't a big range to triffle with. 99% of the time it's either too loud or too quiet, and the other 1% you get it perfectly right, you develop an anxiety disorder that something will mess with the knob and you'll lose forever the perfect setting. XD
@@EddieOtool , Yeah nothing that cleva back in the early Naughties when I bought the beast ! Ive threatened to Mod the thing & add a trim level for finer control, also the power supply seems to run out of steam & compress the sound when I used to jam with my now X mate, so had planned at one stage to fix/mod the power supply too, but never got around to it, the obvious other solution is an add on dummy load /speaker attenuator, sorry I cant remember the proper name for it, I'm on the autism spectrum & I got zero sleep last night so am running on empty at the moment, so apologies in advance for making no sense what so ever !!! , but then again what else is new ??? LOL ! situation normal :)
@@pwrrpw319 lol not autistic here but I barely didn't sleep for 15 years at one (long, endless) point in my life so I sympathize. ;) Yeah if your power supply behaved, a volume pedal at the end of your signal chain wouldn't have helped either - plus it would hurt the tone if you're using the amp's built in efx. Putting it on the fx loop is another trick this amp seems to disallow. Yeah we've been really, really spoiled in the 2000s with modern digital modeler amps.
@@EddieOtool Bugga :((( yeah I used to have big troubles with insomnia when I was a kid, so I can identify with that ! :(, yeah its either mod time, replace it or keep putting up with its flaws , sigh ! , we'll see , I really do like the idea of a volume pedal, I had thought of that previously, & adding that to a foot switch assembly , it might happen one day, maybe ??? LOL. our modern era that we are living in is yeah not so great of coarse in many ways, so there has to be some compensations hey ! cheers .
I'd have preferred it if you didn't run any pedals and played the same thing for each one, and specified what speaker cab you used with the head amps. that being said, you did a great job of explaining your reasoning behind your choices. I personally don't have time to run all over the place to try out every amp so this is very helpful to me. Thanks.
Wouldn't folks want to know how the amps take overdrive pedals? For me it's the second most important question right after does the map sound good or like arse. I must be old school.
Great video! I have a Spark and just really wish it wasn't so dark. I prefer my Yamaha THR30ii overall. My problem with some of these new (and often amazing) amps is that I'm finding I'm less and less interested in digging into menus and tweaking settings and dealing with too many options. I've gone from an analog man to a digital explorer and now I'm quickly moving back to simple analog buttons and knobs. :)
The older THR10 sounds better than the 2, but you need in most of times to open it and put two lil cable far from eatch other on the motherboard, this will cut so much the noise of the amp and even make I don't know, a better sounding amp and even a better HI FI speakers.
I have to agree. It was nice in a studio setting for some things, but took a lot of time setting up all the tones you wanted instead of just playing. I've just been moving back towards my pedals and tubes amps instead of modelers just to sound great and play. I ended up with a nice Marshall DSL100HR head and 2X12 Marshall cabinet that really sounds great.
I agree. My Katana 50 is a great little amp. But to make small sound adjustments on the fly is (for me anyway) a nightmare, especially when its on one of the presets rather than via the panel button. Next amp will be a 2 channel analog methinks.
Interesting stuff. I've been touring and recording a Bandit 112 for about 30 years, and this Trans Tube iteration for the last six without complaints (except that Peavey stopped shipping it with a footswitch, which is a weird choice). I don't know that it needed three options for cleans, but that clean channel breaks up incredibly well if you dime it out, and makes an amazing pedal platform too. Hold its hand a little and you can dial in some amazing stuff. I picked up a mint 1982 Bandit 65 recently that is an absolute goldmine for country and blues.
i LOVE your videos! I think that the blackstar ht5 is a really good amp too, it has a really good clean, a versatile overdrive(you can play from a little cruch to a badass overdrive), and it has reverb too
I think if you can pick up a Peavey Bandit 112 used, at a very reduced price, then it's got potential as a pedal platform. But there's no way I'd pay over £330 for one!
I used a heavily molded first generation Peavey Bandit 50 for 8 years. Didn't keep proper notes of the mods . Stolen, tried nodding a Bandit 65 , not the same. I'll by the first 50 I find cheap enough.
Love that the HB Tube 15 is your top budget amp. I have a version branded Hartwood which comes with a Vintage 30 speaker instead of the HB’s 70/80 and I love it.
I have the 5 watt version of the Harley Benton amp (mine is from Monoprice) and use it through a cheapo 1x12 Kustom cabinet. Together they both cost me less than $200, and sound fantastic. A very inexpensive home solution. Also makes it easy to put the extension cab into an isolation box for home recording. The 5 watter distorts quickly as you raise the volume, so I replaced the 12ax7 with a 5751. I love the more gentle increase in gain, as I can get subtle gain boots from pedals that are much easier to dial in now. Very versatile.
If you disconnect the negative feedback loop on that amp (it's a 220 cap next to the external output jack it'll sound mote like tweed champ. It's too bright for me in the stock form, I barely turn the tobe knob up it sits almost at zero. But now it's much warmer and punchier like a small.tweed. with a decent 12" external speaker it sounds so much better than the 15 watt blues's Jr wanna be monoprice amp.
In my opinion, the 5 watt tube amp is much better than the 15 watt. The 15 that I ordered never sounded good and the input went bad after a few days. The 5 watt is pretty decent and still works so for half the money it's the better option.
@@araconteur3737 I haven't played through the 15 watt version. I bought the 5 watter because I learned it was a clone of the Fender Champ 5F1 circuit, and I always had wanted one of those old Champ amps. As someone who likes to use his vol/tone controls to dial in tones, the 5 watter is very responsive to those input changes, and I've never felt that it lacked tonal versatility. The only thing I wish it had was an effects loop so I had the option to keep reverb and delay out of the preamp section, but whatever. Thanks for the info on the negative feedback loop. When I get bored this winter, I will probably dive into that.
I'm an older guy and somewhat old school but recently attended a show where the guitarist used only software amps. They were modeled on the Fuchs ODS and a Friedman Buxom Betty Input directly to mixer. I'm 73, playing since 10. Never heard such a range of quality tones from a rig. It was impressive. And this is coming from one who owns vintage Fenders, ACs and a plexi. Heck they might be for sale soon.
@@samright4661 I personally know plenty of players who prefer the pure setup of clean amp and a footswitch for drive channel... Since there are thousands of pedals on the market your point is daft, he's not going to have all the same pedals as you
I bought the Orange Rocker 15 after watching your review of it. I know the amp polarised opinion but I absolutely love it. It's also my first valve amp and, there's no denying, it just feels different to digital. Much more responsive to hard/soft picking etc.
If you ever feel the need to upgrade, get a good condition, pre-loved Orange Rocker 30 (not the 32). Very organic sounding, excellent for gigging. It’s a class A, 30 watt, 2 channel combo or head loaded with two EL34s in the power section.
I’m glad you mentioned the Code 50. As a code owner myself, it is the worst purchase I’ve ever made (not only gear related). I always thought that something was wrong with me since everyone online claimed how amazing it was. I can’t wait to sell it and get rid of it. It’s one of the worst amps I’ve played, never buying a digital modeling amp ever again.
@@MrPolevaulter I am selling it and I’ll probably buy a VOX Superbeetle mini. I bought the Pathfinder 10, and it’s hilarious how much better it sounds than the code 50. It’s actually a really good amp for its price, definitely one of the best cheap purchases I’ve made.
@Joliet Jake that is one of the main reasons I hate the code amps. I sure you can get a decent tone but its like finding a needle in a haystack. Plus the app and bluetooth are a joke.
I have two of the "North American" version of the Harley Benton Tube 15 (sold by Monoprice). I kept one mostly stock, except for swapping V1 with a 12AT7 and replacing the power tubes when they failed after just a couple months (the bias adjustment was way off). The other one, I did a total re-tube (12AT7 in V1, upgraded the rest because they were failing) and replaced the stock speaker with an Eminence Legend. The "stock" amp has a nice Marshall crunch, and gets really hairy (in the best way) when you push it. The "modded" amp has more of a Fender character, but sounds spectacular cranked. Easily the best budget amp around, just be sure to check your tube bias when you first get it, and especially if you swap the power tubes. It should be at around 12.5 volts. Mine was around 8. They even made it pretty easy to check and adjust, so no excuses!
Agree about the bias being way out of adjustment from the factory. Mine was 7.5V and I upped it to about 11.5V. Made quite a difference. There are instructions on the TDPRI website on how to make the adjustment - search for "Is the Monoprice 15w self biasing." Also changed out the speaker for a Cannabis Rex. Sounds even better now. It's a fantastic little amp for the price even with the speaker change. I didn't mess with the tubes. The last thing to do would be to swap out the reverb box for an aftermarket unit. Also, I have the DSL-1HR and Joyo BantAmp JaCkMan. They sound great running thru either a 2x12 or half-stack.
I got a second-hand Roland Cube 60, initially for home use, especially for having a headphone option. But realising how loud it is, I started using it on band practices, and on smaller gigs, it does the job more than satisfactory :)
I've got one of the Marshall custom shop JCM1 mini stacks they made for the 50th anniversary. It's got 2 10" cabs, and I rarely use the 1watt setting at home, but usually have it on the 0.1w setting, and it's loud enough that if I put it past 8 you can hear it outside my house. It sounds fantastic too, and I may give the DSL1 a try too.
@Vdx Xxy a friend of mine had a shop, and wanted to close it and move, he found it in his storage room 6months ago, brand new still in the boxes. I bought him a plane ticket to Vancouver and gave him a blackstar practice amp.
It’s just the most sound from 1 watt on earth. The tone is good on both channels , but I’m gonna burn in the tubes & it should be even better. Rock on 😎
What I Love about this is guys is that he's honest and NOT paid off by companies to push products. With that said, allow me to explain what took place just yesterday. I was looking at a tube amp called Monoprice Stage Right 15 watt tube amp. ( It's the exact same amp as the Harley Benton Amp mentioned in this video. Just a different name. ) As I'm wondering if I should buy the amp, I bumped into this video. So I thought, okay, let's go and check this amp out. I get to the guy's house, ( Craigslist Sale ) and he has the amp, but also has an empty casing of the exact same amp. So I asked what, do you have 2 of the same amp? He replied Yes! One was damaged through shipping, and he said that it lit up and then shortly afterwards no longer worked. He wanted $200.00 for the working amp and tried to BS me by saying he paid $300.00 for it. He said it was "Brand New" and indeed it seems brand new. So being a guy, I asked, would you take $150.00 for it? NO! $175 is as low as I'm going, he replied. So I purchased it, and then I asked about the other amp that was gutted. He asked if I would like to purchase it. I said I only have $40.00 left on me. He said he had all the parts upstairs and went and got them. Remember, this thing was NOT supposed to work! I looked at how the amp I purchased and how it was set up and set the tubes in the chassé the exact same way as the working amp, and the damaged amp lit up! So I thought, "Okay, There's Hope!" I thought I should purchase the damaged amp in case I ever need parts. There was also a wire that came loose in the reverb tank. I get these amps home and the first thing I do is take apart the working amp to see where to resolder the loose wire from the damaged amp. Well, that was an easy fix. Then I went and put the reverb tank back into the working amp. Okay, so can I get the damaged amp to work again. Just a Special Note, the damaged amp is also "Brand New." I then connect the speaker. So I set the tubes in once again correctly and the damaged amp once again lights up! Ah! BUT will it work with my guitar plugged in? The moment of TRUTH arrives. I plug in my guitar and guess what happens? EVERYTHING WORKED THE WAY IT SHOULD! Without any problems! When they guy said it no longer worked, he must have put the tubes in the wrong way! So I now have 2 of these amps ( one with a damaged casing ) but both are brand new for a lousy $215.00!!! ( US Dollars! ) BEAT THAT!!!! And then it was time to jam! Elmo Karjalainen is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, these are awesome sounding inexpensive amps! I was looking to buy 1 and ended up with 2! While negotiating the price, I made the comment, "I was really hoping to get the amp for $150.00" but got both amps for $215.00!!! That's $107.50 per amp! ( With a little work included ) You see, I knew to check this guy out "Elmo Karjalainen" because he tells the truth, but I had absolutely no idea his number one pick of " Great Budget Amps" was going to be the amp I had my eyes on. It is AWESOME, BEST SOUNDING, AWESOME FEELING TUBE AMP which makes playing easy because it's very responsive! So listen to this man Elmo Karjalainen he knows what he's talking about! Thanks Dude! Sir Zap from Buffalo, New York.
I own the Marshall code 50 and I love it, I get amazing blues and rock tones out of it, I get it if you’re strictly metal but for me the versatility is awesome
I also have the Marshall Code 50 and here is a tip for you,i did not like how it sounded with the original 12" speaker,it was too harsh and thin sounding but not as bad as Elmo's code 50 sounded,i think he had the wrong cab sim or it was turned off,maybe he had some defect in the code he reviewed?So here is what i did to improve the code 50's tone,i had a old Vintage Quam Nichols 12" Alnico 16 ohm speaker i put in the code 50 and my code sounds so much better now that even Elmo would like it!It is not as loud as the original 4 ohm speaker but the Vintage Nichols measured 11 ohms on my multitester and my Marshall Code 50 still gets loud enough! Another thing i did was put in my own backboard with a oval port that i cut out,the tone now is much warmer without the harshness and brittle high end like before with the original speaker,i would also maybe try a Vintage 30 type speaker because the Vintage Quam Nichols 12" Alnico speakers may be hard to find used.
@@jimsimmons2674 what I do, is if I’m playing metal or hard rock, I turn the cab off add some mids, turn the bass down and add an OD in front of it and it’s crunchy af
@@HellbillyHalloween Thats good if that works for you but i never got a good tone with my Code 50 with the cab sim off,it always sounded better with a cab sim on for me!If your into metal like you said,try the Joyo Extreme Metal Pedal,i have one and it sounds very good but i am not running it through the code 50 i use it with my Fender Mustang V and Line 6 Spider 4x12 can into the Fender Princeton amp model.
@@jimsimmons2674 I like to have the cab sim on for when I play blues and country for that warm tone and I turn it off for rock and metal so I have more control of the bass and treble, in blues you want a warm tone most of the time, you don’t want that for metal, you want lots of treble, some bass to create a foundation and some mids, to make it thicker sounding
They fixed that “dark” sound on the Spark with the addition of an EQ pedal. You should give it another try. Love all of your input and reviews. One of the better channels on the tube
I totally get the angle at which you go here. yet! .... These are great advices for players "stepping" in and based on "classic modern" preamp + MV tones only. The Bandit 112 (or at least the older ones) is a fantastic amp once you use it the way it should be used... which is .... as a tube amp. the clean channel is fantastic: Volume high, gain low, t dynamics adds compression and pedals do the rest. The best tone is from the end stage, not the preamp drives. Yes, the drive channel is not that good but hey... we are comparing with single channel amps! So use one channel... the clean one.
Just realised, apart from all the links and direct access to each individual amp, there is also a transcript included ! This must be just about the most in-depth and comprehensive gear reviews on You Tube I've ever seen.
I have the head version of that little 1-watt Marshall. I've used it in the pit for two different musicals this year already. One of which I used it's emulated out direct to the house with no speaker cabinet (we had a completely direct/silent pit). It sounded fantastic both times, the first with my 112 cab and the second with no cab. Amazing little amps for the money. I used to work at a store that was a Peavey dealer. It seems to me that they have tried to make all their stuff, even their solid state stuff, sound like the now famous 5150 amp. They sound very ok, but no matter what you do, they don't sound like a tube amp in any way. I feel like they'd be better off to reduce the gain on tap a little bit. Clean sounds are fairly amazing just from having all that power on tap.
I would add the little Blackstar Fly 3 battery powered amp along side the small Boss battery powered Katana. It's a great little amp and has a built-in delay. I think it was around before the Katana, actually. Might be where Boss got the idea to put a delay in the portable Katana. Both are great little amps, for sure.
I've owned a couple of Peavey amps over the years. My first was a Deuce that I bought back in 1978 or so. 100w, 2-12's. It had a tube power section, but a solid state preamp, which wasn't very good. Honestly, I wonder who at Peavey thought such a concept was a good idea. Me, I wasn't as conversant with tube amps as I should have been. All I saw when I looked at it before buying was that it had tubes, so it must be hot! It was only after I started gigging with it that I realized my mistake. So after I got rid of the Deuce, what did I do? Well, I bought another Peavey, of course . But I had learned my lesson regarding Peavey's lousy preamp "overdrive" at least. So, I fell into a really good deal on a Peavey Session head. 200 watts RMS. No master volume. This amp stayed clean even when maxed out. It was designed for keyboardists and pedal steel players. I paired it with a 250w PAS 12" enclosure, and had a kickass amp that was crystal clean at all volumes. So, to satisfy my need for that overdriven sound, I bought a Boss overdrive pedal and all was right with the world again. That Session head was a damn good amp, easily filling every venue I played in. But not a first choice for mos guitarists, unless your guitar sez Shobud on its label, and you play with pedals and levers you move with your knees.
The Vox AC-10 is one of my favorite overall low powered amplifiers with great rivers and a really nice break up. That and the Fender Champ car pretty much unbeatable in my opinion.
The best two advices that I ever got regarding guitar are : From the woman I considered my mother, "go direct to your amp" From a bass player "play clean and play loud".. I now realise that with a nice amp you can get any tone or effect you like direct to the clean amp. A nd in playing loud and clean, you learn not to hide behind effects and develop great feel and control
As I stated on another video. Peavey used to make good amplifiers, especially for country and western, in Mississippi. Now they market poor to okay amplifiers built in China. I still have an early to mid-1980s Peavey Backstage Plus.
I had a backstage plus for nearly 40yrs with only two problems:a volume pot dying and the spring reverb going wonky after 15yrs. They don't make like that no more
Apples, oranges, and hand grenades. When demonstrating an amp, just demonstrate the pure naked amp alone. When you throw in a Strymon Sunset, Riverside, or anything other than the plain naked amp itself, you destroy any usable comparison. And play exactly the same riffs on each and everyone. Nobody understands "the exception proves the rule"; the amp should be the only exception, everything else should be absolutely identical so one can extract the rule (amp performance). Only one exception, or your demo is useless. I am by the way a retired speaker driver and enclosure designer/engineer.
Great show. I needed an amp for small clubs and having own two different 50 watt Plexi's over the years I was pleased to find the 50 watt Marshall Origin head. If you avoid using the gain and the switch which cuts the wattage it does indeed match my 2 old Plexi's. At a club I have to sometimes use an antenuator with it. A few classic OD's and Fuzz pedals take care of the dirt just fine. I am 75 and this rig nails sounds I started with back in '71 If you need a small light rig use a single 12 inch closed back cab with the new Celestion NEO Creamback. In spite of it's name it sounds very much like the old vintage Brit made Greenback.It is half the weight and at 60 RMS it can handle the Marshall.
Thanks for this. I’m learning the very basics on an Alvarez 00 acoustic that just happens to be in the house, but I’ve been eying my first electric guitar & amp. It looks like I can get a good, solid first setup for around $500 USD that’ll keep me happy for as many years as I’d like.
@@chrismillenario5795 the Alvarez? Not much to set up as it's an acoustic... new strings, tweaked the truss rod to set intonation, action could be a touch lower but it's fine as is.
You can do better than $500. Look at the used market. Plenty of great stuff to be found as people upgrade to new stuff. The older stuff still works great, just fewer bells and whistles.
@@indiedavecomix3882 I got tired of looking and just bought a Squier Affinity which I've been very happy with and a Bugera V5 amp that I got on sale. I found some inexpensive upgraded pickups and a new speaker for the amp. All in I'm $570 with a guitar I enjoy playing through an amp that sounds really good (with the new speaker, the stock one was... meh). At some point in the next year I'll buy another guitar to expand the range of sounds I can make along with whatever pickups I need here and there. I'm enjoying surf rock at the moment so I'll probably add a used CV Stratocaster to the the Jazzmaster I have and dump a bunch of money into a SurfyBear spring reverb.
I have a marshall origin 20, I agree it takes pedals super well. I used an attenuator in the effects loop to vary the volume so I can crank the tubes but keep it a reasonable volume.
What attenuator do you use mate? I've found that even at the lowest wattage setting the volume is too loud for bedroom use when cranking the master volume to get that sweet tube break-up. Any tips/help would be appreciated, thanks!
The Roland Cube 10GX just PALES in comparison to the original Micro-Cube - and Micro-Cube GX. They took away the amp modeling and replaced it with 3 sound modes. They also removed a lot of the effects and other features. Why Roland did that, I'll never know. I'm glad I have a Micro-Cube GX! It's excellent!
Peavey Bandit - the older versions - are incredibly well regarded and I think the new one suffers from it's speaker choice. That said, it does massively depend on your style and tone foibles plus it is at the higher end of the scale to be considering a speaker swap.... I had loads of success with the Blackstar HT5 Metal mini head.....wonderful cleans and versatile dirty channel......shame they're hard to find. Out of interest, what speaker did you swap into the HB? Good list :)
I recently saw a club gig with a MusicMan guitar through a DigiTech modeler into this Peavy Bandit, no mic for PA. I was blown away how good it sounded.
On Shane from "In the blues" advice, I picked up a Peavey Bandit Redstripe. Probably 20 yrs old, and I paid £120. It's loud AF, you can dial in a sweet spot bluesy breakup. There's a beefy low end too. If I jam or play somewhere new or dodgy this is the amp I take. I use it clean and add pedals. It's pretty good you know. Quality Control may have gone in the modern version, but I remember my mates ripping it up in the 80s with the old 60 watt Bandit. It was the go to pub amp ⭐
I have an American made silver stripe Peavey Bandit 112s circa 1990s and it is phenomenal! Very warm very tube like tone and response. Can't speak for the current crop of Bandits but mine is a keeper!
Amp #9: Peavey Vypyr X series. I have a Vypyr X2 and it's perfect, it's mostly a metal amp but it has tons of variety of tones, presets, pedals, effects, all in a simple and easy to use interface. It's a combo amp that has trans-tube tech (whatever that means) has a multi-instruemnt speaker, meant for acoustic, electric, and even bass!
I bought the Vypyr VIP 2 2nd hand ($65!) And i doubt I'll need to replace it for a while (unless it it dies on me). More features than I'll ever use. But sounds great!
Just purchased a Marshall Code 50 for approx. 280 Euros, and it is a high quality, powerful amp with amazing bass response, as it has a closed cabinet. Makes my Telecaster almost sound like an acoustic guitar.
I that I was saying I’ve had the Marshall code as my second amp and still use it I feel like it’s great for beginners as well because it helps you find what tone you wanna find in your next amp but without the app on your phone i could see it being bad
On a budget, the Mustang micro has been great for practice. for acoustic gigs, I have a roland cube street that has separate channels for mic and guitar and it sounds great. I'm interested in those cheap tube amps for taking to gigs and practices. I have an 81 Carvin EV100 1x12 that's awesome and loud AF but weighs 70 pounds! Great video!
Older Bandit amps sound amazing. The newer one you tried works well as a pedal platform, especially if you use the clean channel or the modern channel with the gain really low and use an OD or distortion pedal for the remainder. A lot of people have had success getting some nasty metal tones by running an HM-2 or similar, and then running it as a layer/stereo rig with something like a 6505 MH or Invective MH paired with a 1x12 cab for the ultimate portable death metal or hardcore rig. Not really your style, but... Tbh I would use the Origin 20 for that, as well. Run an HM-2 or MT-2 into it on relatively low gain on the amp and pair it with a Tubescreamer or Precision Drive boosted bigger amp.
I have the second one--the Marshall DSL1CR. I had never even heard of it until the day I bought it. I went to the store to try out a Yamaha THR30ii, an employee suggested I try the Marshall too, and I went home with the Marshall.
I always appreciate your honest opinions. I got a spark, I dig it. 2 things in particular, the ability to download tones made by other people, pretty much any player or tone you can think of, and 2) the ability to play music or lessons, including RUclips & Spotify, right through the app.
I bought a Marshall VS 265 from my brother who purchased it new but never played it. So, I got a practically-new Marshall VS 265 for $300.00, and I think it is a great amp, especially for a hybrid!
I have the Origin 20 head and I honestly love it. It is really loud though even on low power. If I was running a 4x12 I'd probably get evicted rather promptly.
Origin 20 with a decent speaker and closed back cab sounds great to my ears. Marshall’s launch and demo of these amps did them no favours at all. Lots on line regarding dialling it in, since the controls don’t really behave as you might expect. Great secondhand bargains to be had.
I had a Katana mk2 100, sold it and got a Spark. So happy with the Spark. It's so much better for practicing at very low volumes. Like you said it can sometimes sound a little dark, but just play around in the app or choose a different amp in the app. There are so many good sounds to be had, and I spend far less time getting a decent sound using the Spark app than the Boss Tone Studio
The Spark was the worst amp I have ever played...(ok...not as bad as the Squier "amp" that came with one of their beginners bundles). Terrible sounds and not very loud. I have a Marshall MG10 that basically gives me the one basic rock sound I want and is deafening when turned up compared to the The Spark which is feeble. I have played full valve Marshalls/Boogies etc so I know what a decent amp is supposed to sound like.
@@plantagenant each to their own. I can only practice at home at very low volume - talking volume - and for that it's the best I've heard. Not saying it's the best sounding amp at all volume, just what I use it for. Plus it sounds killer through headphones.
@@olafburgermann806 Indeed. I know people love it. Maybe mine's a dud but I don't like it. I prefer my Marshall MG 10 for bedroom...it's louder and sounds more authentic to my ears, and I'm too old to get on with menus. I just prefer to plug in and go. I've gigged and played big real amps from Marshalls to Boogies so I'm not a newbie but as you say, it's all down to personal preference.
I have a Roland Microcube. I usually plug an SG with 57 Classics into it. As seems to be the case with many solid state amps, it does quite a nice clean, but to my ear the more distorted settings aren't all that. For practicing in the garage purposes, it's fine, and I think I paid $100 about 12 years ago. If someone's got a working used one they want to get rid of for a reasonable price, it's worth considering.
Just bought a barely used Roland microcube for 300 nok, about 30$, it's quite nice. I've almost considered using it instead of my rack amp, easier to bring around.
Valeton Tar-20g is absolutely fantastic as far as solid state amp heads go. The clean sound is fantastic, the crunch is solid and it takes pedals really well. It is also extremely compact and you can use it with your headphones (the cab sim is pretty good). With harley benton cab you can get most of the tones really easy. And it is cheaper than half of the amps mentioned here.
"Wait how do these mini tube amps sound so good in a cab with only a few watts?" It takes 10x the power to double the spl, and every 10db is a doubling of perceived spl. So if 1w = 80db, 10w = 90db, and 100w = 100db. You can see how this gets out of hand quickly, which is why efficiency is so important in loudspeaker design. There are many ways to increase efficiency, you could simply use more/larger speaker drivers (i.e 4x12 cab) to achieve higher spl for the same power input, use high efficiency speaker drivers (pro woofers used in cabs generally already are very efficient), and/or horn load the drivers. Combining these methods could easily net you 10-20db efficiency gains over a standard single 12" driver. To go from 100db to 120db in my previous example, you'd need 10000 watts! So you can see how the multiple large drivers of the cab can play a huge role in overcoming lower power input.
The Peavey Bandit 112 Red Stripe 2000’s Made in China edition is actually great for the clean channel and the dirty channel is kinda weak in volume, but I use pedals for dirt anyways. I got one 5 years ago for 100 US Dollars, it was worth that money in my opinion.
ruclips.net/video/Bsbg2CTRnwY/видео.html, is seems that a Bandit is not the same as Bandit so there is a reason to investigate further before not considering those.
I have the Joyo Jackman ii and its just amazing. I play mine through a mini cabinent I made with a Jensen C8r, and I run a multi effects pedal and an EQ pedal through it to really open it up. It's more than you can ask for at that price. It sounds just as big as any other affordable 20 watt tube head through a full size 4x12 cab, and the bluetooth works great. On a side note, playing it through headphones is how I use it the most, does that great too.
Nice video, there are so many options too choose from nowadays, it can get confusing. Considering the fender mustang to replace my old and very loud fender eighty-five, seems the versatility of this little thing is quite impressive. Same goes with the line6 spider line, very affordable as well. Great playing, as usual, I like how you switch from pure shredding to blues/jazz, it's quite impressing.
I agree. I also like when Elmo goes from shred to jazz/blues or even ambient type playing. He is a very capable all around guitarist. I learn from him and enjoy his playing. I find him also great at getting various tones from great and not so great gear. I love when he says "let's see how it feels about some overdrive". Love the hi gain assault with skill. Just sayin. Check out his originals too. You'll like it I think. And last He is a very funny Dude.
21:57 I like how, out-of-context, it makes it seem like the bass is so stupidly loud and muddy that it completely drowns out his laughter, which makes it even funnier.
Very to the point and useful. However, your joy of playing is the most inspiring part. I never got on with the Peavey Bandit, but one of my former students played one, and it sounded great. He used a guitar with humbuckers.
I have bought a champion 20 recently and I have to say that I am very happy that I did choose it, perfect for home use but also loud when you want to crank it up somewhere else, really universal nice sounding amp thanks to the settings but also easy to set up unlike some modelling amps. The one on the vid is a 50xl and it in many ways looks and sounds different than mine so maybe they are connected only by name
I believe the XL line only upgraded the speaker (came with Celestion speakers instead of Fender ones), and I think they have some USB connectivity. I own a Champion 100, it looks and sounds great. I don't care if it's solid state, it holds its own against my tube amps.
Live I play a plexi 100 through a quad of redbacks. Practice rig is a code 100 combo. You gotta spend a bit of time with the code and dont push the bass. I changed speakers to t-75, disconnected wifi connector (makes noise), and do not use stock presets. I build my own preset off the plexi patch and get a damn decent tone. Tighten the screws all around cabnet. Effects loop works better with outboard chorus and delay- I dont use onboard effects so I built a little board just for the code. Use the amp as a stand alone amp and it's better than the presets and modeling. I can see why a person would not want to gig all the time with it- ( can be a bit noisey, and needing to check your settings every gig) but it could do it in spades. It's just not for adhd people.
I always liked Peavey amps. Way before they got involved with EVH. Great amps for classic rock and they can clean up well. I favored a deluxe reverb for live most of my life.
You missed the Blackstar Id Sore Stereo 40. the original version which I I have one I got used for under $100 US and the Starcaster "Strat" I got a year later both from my Local 'Music-Go-Round. I did an extreme mod/build of the guitar. 3 quad rail humbuckers wired like a Les Paul with P/P pots for coil splitting and one of the tome pots also P/P to activate the neck and bridge Pickups together regardless of the 5-way switch position all mounted in the custom hand made stainless steel pick extended pick guard to hold all the extra controls and the output jack too... all grounded through the steel of the pick guard ... Les Paul '50 style wiring with a third pair pf pots and hmbucker added.. coil splitting and bypass gives this guitar so many variables and combinations that I haven't yet calculated just how many I can get. lets just say it's a whole lot. the pick ups average about 18.5 k-ohms each and split to around 8-9 K each. each has 4 coils so even split are still humms but sound like single ciols split. the way i wired them for splitting active coil toward the brudge side of the pick up. I may add leds for active coil indecators using the opposite sides of the P/P switchon the vol [ots for the led circuit... each side of the P/P being independant of each other... so usefull for my needs. that's a lot of wiring to solder and route.. I have a plan that will work the way I want it to. ... Oh what fun this will be to play and show off.
I own the Boss Katana mini. The joyo marshall to my ears better than the two actual Marshall's. I own the Joyo version of the Orange (meteOR) and paired it with a Orange cabinet. Both the Joyo meteOR and Micro Dark have great flexability. And they are so cute and tiny. Brands like Marshall and Fender can sometimes occasionally make a mistake or make a dud. Band Trio pedal does a better job at jamming along with the player than the Spark amplifier. The Harley Benton and the Joyo both show that Big Name brands are not always all that they are made out to be. And that small brands can on occasion are just as good and sometimes better.
I was thinking of getting a Spark but gave up on the idea since it felt strange to buy an amp with the same price as my guitar for a beginner, so I got a Fender Mustang L25. It has a lot of presets, sounds good and I'm happy with it.
Good choice Eliyahu. I have the Positive Grid Bias Amp 2. I do like the sound of the unit but Positve Grid failed on the software application for PC. They don't care. Their software graphics for PC comes in at a reduced size for the computer screen. it's small and not legible. I don't know why they didn't care enough to fix it. I still like the sound of the Bias Amp 2 but the software issues are too much to deal with. The worst part is that they just don't care. They also have a very nasty customer service situation. Worst people to talk to. Worst attitude in the business. I no longer spend my money with them. You'll be happy with your Fender Mustang amp.
I use a 5150 iii w/Marshall cab for band performance and a spark for practice. I think Spark delivers really good sound and you can get ‘em fairly cheap now. Overall I think it’s a good product for whatever that’s worth. 👍
Elmo, I own a code and I don't hate you. I will say that my code 50 died and would not turn on anymore. I still have a code 25 that my son and I use. It does take some time to dial in a sound. The presets are crap. Your channel is brilliant. I love the way you will play a well-known song and play a part of it deliberately wrong and laugh about it. Simply Awesome!!!
I had a heavily modded first generation Bandit 50 that was stolen, I didnt keep sufficient notes of what I did to it over 3 year period. I could pull and push the pots and twiddle knobs and have a totally different amp for the next song. It did everything I asked it to do. I've had later iterations and none worked as well.
I use a kenwood krf a4030 receiver as guitar amp..always stereo and all the connections you need for home recording. Need effects tho.. If you really have little money you can find such amps at thrift stores or pawnshops
Those Joyo Bantamps are incredible value for money. I was looking at buying one but went for a Terror Stamp instead, which (I believe) is a Micro Dark in pedal form. Great little amp which punches well above it's weight when you factor in it's price. ✌️🇦🇺
The HB tubes - 15 watt whipped them all. It is probably modeled after a Blues Jr. A lot of the guitar amp makers have forgotten the sweet spot of a 15 watt - 25 watt tube amp. That is all you need for local bar use. If they built more of them in that range, there would be a lot more guitarists. Boss Katana II / Peavey 6505 / Roland Cube / VOX
IIRC, the Marshall Code combos for some reason always load up with the integrated IR loader/cab emulation enabled, even though you are playing through the real speaker. It would make much more sense to have the IR loader only available for the DI output. You have to disable the IR to hear what it actually should sound like. Maybe you did that in your Code 50 video, and it just sounded like crap anyways? Btw, I would definitely add the Fender Bassbreaker 007 head and combo to this list. They are so underpowered that you'll barely be able to use one as a practice amp. The 10" speaker sounds pretty good tho, but I would definitely go for the 30w version. They are otherwise very good sounding amps.
I've had loads of Peavey Bandits during a 35 year period. I cant speak for the latest model but I bought a USA Red Stripe last year that was like new for £70.Good clean channel and with a decent OD pedal a good gigging tool...that Harley Benton sounded great BTW
In addition ... I just tested a Les Paul through the redstripe Bandit's clean channel with the volume on cranked and t dynamics on 10%. Just put the treble not too high. Sounds 10 times better than the drive channel... But its loud. Give it a try!
I have a red stripe studio pro and i dont ever use the drive channel( it sucks) the clean channel is awesome. It's a pedal platform amp. Upgrade the speaker and stack together three drive pedals and enjoy. Sounds bad ass that way.
@@araconteur3737 absolutely. Studio pro is 60 watt version without presence control. But same sound. Thing is, one easily looks at these amps as classic ss amps with gain and master. But the magic is forgetting about the drive channel and using the clean channel as a vintage non gain tube amp. The power amp does not clip because of the hidden overdrive circuit after the preamp. I think at Peaveys they overestimated the target users. But these amps could have worked without drive channels as vintage transtubes.
@@stevenburvenich168 they should have deleted the drive channel and added a master volume to the clean channel. But you're correct about that, I see it as more of an old clean fender tube amp and that's how I approach it. For some reason people assume it's a drive amp but it's not. At least not without the proper pedal board.
@@araconteur3737 100% ruclips.net/video/K0eZX04rlD0/видео.html woman tone into clean channel + power amp sim + my own added master control. never mind the playing :/
i would have preferred to hear more of the amps body with basic rock chords and barre/open string type harmonic chord content . the frantic speed picking demos where not as revealing and after time , hard to sit thru that said, i appreciate the reviews and the work you put into your channel
Whoever said that his champion 50xl was broken I agree with because I have one and I love that amp, it may not be the best amp but it doesn’t sound bad
I have several high-end amps AND I have a Champion 50XL as well. There's no way I could make mine sound the way his does here. I agree with you, that it's not perfect, but I hope people don't ignore this amp because of this review. I can't figure out which setting he is on, but this is one of my favorite low-cost practice amps. I do respect this reviewer's opinion and I like this channel, so nothing against him.
I have the Fender LT-25, €127 when it just came out and nobody had yet picked up on the fact that it's good; basically, the speaker in it is actually clear and punchy. Staying on the topic of budget, i'm very surprised Elmo hasn't reviewed the cheap Cort and Behringer amps yet. I'm incredibly disappointed. Very upset indeed. A bit of a letdown. Clearly a malicious individual who loves to disappoint people. Elmo ruined my winter.
Quite personally many of this amps are subjective to what people like I heard a guitar player on a marshall code 8 sounded killer all this guy do is make faces play the Malmsteen wanna be and sound awful
One low buck Marshall I did like was the HAZE I ran it in my rack for a few years. It took the Rocktron intellifex and other EQ very well. It loved my Jackson JX3 overdrive too
Someone help me out, I have a Starcaster Stratocaster by fender, what is the best amp I can get for it with a budget of like £60. Willing to get preowned.
@@MrPolevaulterexcellent advice. Had one for at least 15 years. I bought it for my boat. Batteries last forever, never left the boats (4 boats, two open boats). My first one lasted that entire time in our Texas weather (HOTT, and occasionally down to teens in the winter). I suppose the speaker finally deteriorated as it just flubbed in the end. Not worth a speaker replacement. All those years later, in 2020 I researched what was available to replace it with and it led me right back to another one. Got the blonde one this time! 😂❤ A few updates, but basically still the class of the league. Love how you could, for example, simply swap the included small strap with a guitar strap and walk, roller skate, whatever - with it hanging off your shoulders! Yah, yah!
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Your music rocks man. Really. It inspires me to play when I'm able due to health problems. Much appreciated kind sir. I really mean that. Great channel and keep up the great work man!
@@hoosierdaddy2308 Thanks! Hoping for good health for you.
@@MrPolevaulter Thank you kind sir.
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I had a Micro Dark for a bit. Great amp, but I never once thought of possibly running the FX send into my interface with an IR loader. I wonder if that would even potentially work out well? I may just have to get one again and try that out. You know, for science! LMAO!
BlackStar HT1
it really should have gotten a mention. Tube amp with a brilliant sound and a ton of options for recording.
8 great cheap amps & 4 to avoid
01:09 Op.1 Orange Micro Dark (€169, Hybrid amp, 20W)
03:25 Op. 2 Marshall DSL1 CR (€279, Tube/valve amp, 1W)
06:13 Avoid 1 Peavey Bandit 112 (€375, Transistor, 80W)
07:44 Op. 3 Fender Mustang Lt 25 (€159, Modeling amp, 25W, one 8 inch speaker)
10:05 Op. 4 Marshall Origin 20 Head (€379, Tube, 20W)
11:48 Avoid 2 Marshall 5W combo (€222, Valve amp)
13:41 Op. 5 Joyo Jackman II (€149, Hybrid amp, 2 channels)
16:38 Honorable mention Roland Micro Cube (€?)
17:04 Op.6 Boss Katana Mini (€91, Digital amp)
19:32 Avoid 3 Fender Champion 50 XL (€?, clean it's ok)
22:20 Op.6 Spark Amp (€299, Digital amp)
25:59 Avoid 4 Marshal Code (€?, Digital amp)
28:58 Op.7 Harley Benton Tube 15 (€250, clean/crunch channels, Tube amp, 15W)
I have a Peavey Bandit 112 and I am absolutly agree about this review, but for me this amp it's Ok, cause I use the clean channel for platform pedals, I bought it new in €200 & it's too loud, for the price was a better option.
I think the Peavey sounded the best, it's clean and high gain would be all I'd want to use really and it sounded the best to me.
@@CaseyKoplinCk13The High Gain is only good for Thrash and Hardcore, which is just like all of the 'Red Stripe,' 'Teal Stripe,' and 'Gray Stripe' Peaveys of yore. So they've been pretty consistent, as far as sound is concerned.
Great
1. Orange Micro Dark
2. Marshall DSL1CR
3. Fender Mustang LT25
4. Marshall Origin 20w Head
5. Joyo Jackman
6. Boss Katana Mini
7. Spark
8. Harley Benton Tube 15
Honorable Mention: Roland Micro Cube
Avoid
1. Peavey Bandit 112
2. Marshall Origin 5w Combo
3. Fender Champion 50XL
4. Marshall Code
thanks!!
Avoid
1. Peavey Bandit 112
Well, that eliminates a bunch of players!
Thank you for sparing me 33 minutes of mindless talking and random noodling.
The Peavy Bandit is pretty good, though the gain channel doesn't sound great. Just use the clean channel with pedals, and it's great.
The original bandit was a very sought after tube amp
That Joyo amp was really impressive, I thought it sounded the best then looked at the price, couldn't believe it. I think getting this and a good cab might be the best option if you're on a budget as the sound is already pretty convincing and having the cab helps your flexibility in the long term.
Hey what does a cab do?
@@f1n3ss3r4 A cab is basically a speaker
I second the motion! , I too really liked that Joyo, I am definitely gonna have to go check it out ! , as it maybe possible for me to squeeze it into my ever shrinking budget ! cheers :)
@@pwrrpw319I’ve had the joyo zombie 2 got for like 100 dollars and I don’t regret it at all
Damn dude your playing is unbelievable - you make it look effortless. Im especially impressed with how relaxed your right hand seems during those lightening fast flourishes. You could make any amp sound good!
Thank you :)
It' ok lol
The HB Tube 15 amp was a wonderful surprise to me and paired with the HB G112 Vintage speaker cab with the Celestion Vintage 30 speaker it has become my favorite sound. I have tube Marshalls, Blackstar Mk II, Bugera V5 and a few others, but The HB Tube 15 has become my recording and gigging amp now for the last 5 months. Thanks for your expertise and valued opinions, most of the time I agree with you.
Thanks Greg! Yeah, it's a great amp.
Hows the cab holding up, i really want to get it but a bunch of bad reviews of the build quality and thin sound are turning me off
@@_josemillos The amp is very good quality chassis, Celestion 70/80 speaker is fine, and mine came with JJ tubes. I play it about 10-12 hours during the week and it has been very reliable with no complaints. The sound and tone is not "thin" in any way, it sounds wonderful and can be made to sound clean and sparkly or very crunchy according to the gain applied. It is my favorite amp by far and I have a couple of Marshalls, a Bugera v5, a Blackstar HT5 mark ll and several different solid state and modeling amps. It is my favorite and go to amp. BUY IT, it's the best bang for the buck amp on the market.
how do you like your bugera v5? I'm planning to get one instead of the tube 15, much too loud for home use. I'd also need to use a voltage transformer for the tube 15 which would be a pain. It'll be my first tube amp.
@@dammitcarl1082 I like my Bugera V5 amp. I also like my HB Tube15 and it does get much louder than the v5. For home the Bugera is nice on .1-1w or 5w settings plus you can use headphones where the HB15 does not have an earphone jack. The Bugera is sweet.
All I can say is thank you, Elmo! This was probably the most useful video I've ever seen on RUclips. I had never heard of the Harley Benton, which is not common in the U.S., but after watching countless videos, I stumbled upon yours and immediately bought the Harley Benton and could not be more happy. It's a fantastic amp and suits my needs perfectly. Thank you!!
And thank you :)
The older Peavey Bandits are phenomenal, and you can find them cheap. They have great clean and drive channels, and are loud as hell.
I have a Rage. I have had it forever and I was amazed at what it can do., have a 50’s Tele Made in Mexico reissue. Theyre made for each other.
The Peavey Bandit and the Orange Crush 120 are the ONLY S.S. Amps I would even CONSIDER playing live!!!!! Of COURSE I’m thinking of ‘84-87 Bandits. Great little solid states
@@STETTRACE I can agree with that. The clean channel on both are excellent. Plenty of headroom.
Is a peavy bandit 75 a good choice because i was thinking about picking one up? Also was looking at a line 6 spider IV, but im pretty new to guitar and dont know much about amps, so idk which one i should get
@@oxidizedoregano you can't go wrong with the Bandit, but if you are looking for built-in effects, the Bandit doesn't have any.
Avoid #5: Fender Frontman 10g. The guitars in the packages that the majority of these amps are sold with are often really good guitars for the price, but the Fender Frontman 10g has to be the worst amp ever made for overdriven tones: even the clean tones are just okay. It’s not that much more expensive to buy just the Squier Bullet Strat or Tele by itself, and something like a fender champion 20, which is miles better than the Frontman. I also got the extra padded road runner gig bag, but Fender are known for durability so this isn’t a must unless you really bang stuff around.
Definately avoid the Fender Frontman 212R my wife bought me on as a birthday gift years ago and it has many problems on top of just sounding awfull even for it's price range. hate to part with it since it was a gift so it just sits in my shop next to my drumkit collecting dust.
Actually the front man 25 is a good amp
@@777bigbird Yeah the larger ones are fine inexpensive amps, but the number stands for wattage. The 10 is less than half the power than the 25, and has a tiny speaker in it.
@@djijspeakerguy4628 thing about the 1O vs 25 ..the 25 was $100 comes with pedal and had reverb
And 1O inch speaker. And louder than what they appear to be. Need more , mic it . Not heavy and gets the job done.
I am the happy owner of a Rolland Cube 40 MK I, and it's one of the best buys I have ever done. The modeling section is OK, but what's awesome is the integrated looper. My guitar playing really got going from the moment I started jamming over phrases. I still use it today for full band practices - and I am been told once in a while to tone it down so loud it can get. Never got to push it past 7, and nowadays I'm more like 3ish. With drums and bass and vocal and stuff. Great little friend, but the hero word is: looper.
I'm a mostly happy owner of a Cube 60, I too mostly like the modelling & the EFX , but sadly no Looper for Paul :((((( sigh ! oh well, the biggest problem I have with mine is the volume control !!! I can't turn it down low enough for practice sessions lOL! , so can identify on that score! , 3 to 4 is about the limit ! , anything much above that, the neighbors will be calling the cops LOL!
@@pwrrpw319 Indeed heh. Just looked it up, and it doesn't seem to have an attenuation feature either, which would be helpful to you. When I used mine in house, I always had that feature on, otherwise I would have had to adjust it between 0.25 and 0.75, which isn't a big range to triffle with. 99% of the time it's either too loud or too quiet, and the other 1% you get it perfectly right, you develop an anxiety disorder that something will mess with the knob and you'll lose forever the perfect setting. XD
@@EddieOtool , Yeah nothing that cleva back in the early Naughties when I bought the beast ! Ive threatened to Mod the thing & add a trim level for finer control, also the power supply seems to run out of steam & compress the sound when I used to jam with my now X mate, so had planned at one stage to fix/mod the power supply too, but never got around to it, the obvious other solution is an add on dummy load /speaker attenuator, sorry I cant remember the proper name for it, I'm on the autism spectrum & I got zero sleep last night so am running on empty at the moment, so apologies in advance for making no sense what so ever !!! , but then again what else is new ??? LOL ! situation normal :)
@@pwrrpw319 lol not autistic here but I barely didn't sleep for 15 years at one (long, endless) point in my life so I sympathize. ;) Yeah if your power supply behaved, a volume pedal at the end of your signal chain wouldn't have helped either - plus it would hurt the tone if you're using the amp's built in efx. Putting it on the fx loop is another trick this amp seems to disallow.
Yeah we've been really, really spoiled in the 2000s with modern digital modeler amps.
@@EddieOtool Bugga :((( yeah I used to have big troubles with insomnia when I was a kid, so I can identify with that ! :(, yeah its either mod time, replace it or keep putting up with its flaws , sigh ! , we'll see , I really do like the idea of a volume pedal, I had thought of that previously, & adding that to a foot switch assembly , it might happen one day, maybe ??? LOL. our modern era that we are living in is yeah not so great of coarse in many ways, so there has to be some compensations hey ! cheers .
I'd have preferred it if you didn't run any pedals and played the same thing for each one, and specified what speaker cab you used with the head amps. that being said, you did a great job of explaining your reasoning behind your choices. I personally don't have time to run all over the place to try out every amp so this is very helpful to me. Thanks.
Thanks for the criticism. It's rare to get actual constructive criticism on RUclips 😀
Wouldn't folks want to know how the amps take overdrive pedals? For me it's the second most important question right after does the map sound good or like arse. I must be old school.
Great video! I have a Spark and just really wish it wasn't so dark. I prefer my Yamaha THR30ii overall. My problem with some of these new (and often amazing) amps is that I'm finding I'm less and less interested in digging into menus and tweaking settings and dealing with too many options. I've gone from an analog man to a digital explorer and now I'm quickly moving back to simple analog buttons and knobs. :)
I did the same
Totally understand. Apps and menus and stuff are boring.
The older THR10 sounds better than the 2, but you need in most of times to open it and put two lil cable far from eatch other on the motherboard, this will cut so much the noise of the amp and even make I don't know, a better sounding amp and even a better HI FI speakers.
I have to agree. It was nice in a studio setting for some things, but took a lot of time setting up all the tones you wanted instead of just playing. I've just been moving back towards my pedals and tubes amps instead of modelers just to sound great and play. I ended up with a nice Marshall DSL100HR head and 2X12 Marshall cabinet that really sounds great.
I agree. My Katana 50 is a great little amp. But to make small sound adjustments on the fly is (for me anyway) a nightmare, especially when its on one of the presets rather than via the panel button. Next amp will be a 2 channel analog methinks.
Interesting stuff. I've been touring and recording a Bandit 112 for about 30 years, and this Trans Tube iteration for the last six without complaints (except that Peavey stopped shipping it with a footswitch, which is a weird choice). I don't know that it needed three options for cleans, but that clean channel breaks up incredibly well if you dime it out, and makes an amazing pedal platform too. Hold its hand a little and you can dial in some amazing stuff.
I picked up a mint 1982 Bandit 65 recently that is an absolute goldmine for country and blues.
It's amazing how good the Fender Mustang sounds for so few euros
Yep.
I have one its awesome
i LOVE your videos!
I think that the blackstar ht5 is a really good amp too, it has a really good clean, a versatile overdrive(you can play from a little cruch to a badass overdrive), and it has reverb too
The 3 band equalizer is a real kicker
Dude, this is valuable data, thank you so much. Great playing, I'm a big Yngwie fan, you're knocking it out the park, three thumbs up.
Thanks 😊
I think if you can pick up a Peavey Bandit 112 used, at a very reduced price, then it's got potential as a pedal platform. But there's no way I'd pay over £330 for one!
Yep.
I use a Peavey Bandit with a Vox AC30 running through a Boss ME50 pedal and they sound ace together
Had a wee peavy rage 112 a while back n it was a good wee amp
My big pal has one with a Celestion n it sounds amazing
I used a heavily molded first generation Peavey Bandit 50 for 8 years. Didn't keep proper notes of the mods . Stolen, tried nodding a Bandit 65 , not the same. I'll by the first 50 I find cheap enough.
I got a teak bandit 112 for £50 (about $60). I've modded the absolute arse off it and it's a great amp.
Love that the HB Tube 15 is your top budget amp. I have a version branded Hartwood which comes with a Vintage 30 speaker instead of the HB’s 70/80 and I love it.
Yeah, it's a really nice amp.
I have the 5 watt version of the Harley Benton amp (mine is from Monoprice) and use it through a cheapo 1x12 Kustom cabinet. Together they both cost me less than $200, and sound fantastic. A very inexpensive home solution. Also makes it easy to put the extension cab into an isolation box for home recording.
The 5 watter distorts quickly as you raise the volume, so I replaced the 12ax7 with a 5751. I love the more gentle increase in gain, as I can get subtle gain boots from pedals that are much easier to dial in now. Very versatile.
If you disconnect the negative feedback loop on that amp (it's a 220 cap next to the external output jack it'll sound mote like tweed champ. It's too bright for me in the stock form, I barely turn the tobe knob up it sits almost at zero. But now it's much warmer and punchier like a small.tweed. with a decent 12" external speaker it sounds so much better than the 15 watt blues's Jr wanna be monoprice amp.
I have the same 5 watt amp and I absolutely love it! I just play at home and it's perfect for that.👍😎🎸🎶
In my opinion, the 5 watt tube amp is much better than the 15 watt. The 15 that I ordered never sounded good and the input went bad after a few days. The 5 watt is pretty decent and still works so for half the money it's the better option.
@@araconteur3737 I haven't played through the 15 watt version. I bought the 5 watter because I learned it was a clone of the Fender Champ 5F1 circuit, and I always had wanted one of those old Champ amps.
As someone who likes to use his vol/tone controls to dial in tones, the 5 watter is very responsive to those input changes, and I've never felt that it lacked tonal versatility. The only thing I wish it had was an effects loop so I had the option to keep reverb and delay out of the preamp section, but whatever.
Thanks for the info on the negative feedback loop. When I get bored this winter, I will probably dive into that.
I have one too. Can't say enough good things about it. Mine is LOUD. Great overdriver. Rock on!
I'm an older guy and somewhat old school but recently attended a show where the guitarist used only software amps. They were modeled on the Fuchs ODS and a Friedman Buxom Betty Input directly to mixer. I'm 73, playing since 10. Never heard such a range of quality tones from a rig. It was impressive. And this is coming from one who owns vintage Fenders, ACs and a plexi. Heck they might be for sale soon.
Great video Elmo! Harley Benton has really improved in quality in the last couple of years. It’s scary how good their gear is at that price!
You should not be scared.
@@allenparsens5279 really not scared, I’m more happy that you don’t have to break the bank to get a good sound 😊
They sure have.
Be afraid. Be very afraid. 🤣
If you are adding pedals then it defeats video purpose, as we don't know what amp alone sounds like 🙏
It's all in the reviews.
Name a guitar player that doesn’t own a pedal ! We need to know how it takes pedals
@@samright4661 I personally know plenty of players who prefer the pure setup of clean amp and a footswitch for drive channel... Since there are thousands of pedals on the market your point is daft, he's not going to have all the same pedals as you
@@shughy1 Yea I bet they own some kind of a pedal. It can be a different pedal than what I own but you can tell how a amp takes pedals.
Totally . I want to know how it sounds clean , and then how it takes pedals .
I bought the Orange Rocker 15 after watching your review of it. I know the amp polarised opinion but I absolutely love it. It's also my first valve amp and, there's no denying, it just feels different to digital. Much more responsive to hard/soft picking etc.
I have a Rocker 15 and I use it on the dirty channel as clean as I can with the output almost full up. It's awesome
If you ever feel the need to upgrade, get a good condition, pre-loved Orange Rocker 30 (not the 32). Very organic sounding, excellent for gigging. It’s a class A, 30 watt, 2 channel combo or head loaded with two EL34s in the power section.
I’m glad you mentioned the Code 50. As a code owner myself, it is the worst purchase I’ve ever made (not only gear related). I always thought that something was wrong with me since everyone online claimed how amazing it was. I can’t wait to sell it and get rid of it. It’s one of the worst amps I’ve played, never buying a digital modeling amp ever again.
Yeah, it's terrible.
THANK YOU! I absolutely hated the one i had. My first Marshall.
@@kellybates1972 hahaha same!!
@@MrPolevaulter I am selling it and I’ll probably buy a VOX Superbeetle mini. I bought the Pathfinder 10, and it’s hilarious how much better it sounds than the code 50. It’s actually a really good amp for its price, definitely one of the best cheap purchases I’ve made.
@Joliet Jake that is one of the main reasons I hate the code amps. I sure you can get a decent tone but its like finding a needle in a haystack. Plus the app and bluetooth are a joke.
I have two of the "North American" version of the Harley Benton Tube 15 (sold by Monoprice). I kept one mostly stock, except for swapping V1 with a 12AT7 and replacing the power tubes when they failed after just a couple months (the bias adjustment was way off). The other one, I did a total re-tube (12AT7 in V1, upgraded the rest because they were failing) and replaced the stock speaker with an Eminence Legend.
The "stock" amp has a nice Marshall crunch, and gets really hairy (in the best way) when you push it. The "modded" amp has more of a Fender character, but sounds spectacular cranked.
Easily the best budget amp around, just be sure to check your tube bias when you first get it, and especially if you swap the power tubes. It should be at around 12.5 volts. Mine was around 8. They even made it pretty easy to check and adjust, so no excuses!
Agree about the bias being way out of adjustment from the factory. Mine was 7.5V and I upped it to about 11.5V. Made quite a difference. There are instructions on the TDPRI website on how to make the adjustment - search for "Is the Monoprice 15w self biasing." Also changed out the speaker for a Cannabis Rex. Sounds even better now. It's a fantastic little amp for the price even with the speaker change. I didn't mess with the tubes. The last thing to do would be to swap out the reverb box for an aftermarket unit.
Also, I have the DSL-1HR and Joyo BantAmp JaCkMan. They sound great running thru either a 2x12 or half-stack.
I got a second-hand Roland Cube 60, initially for home use, especially for having a headphone option. But realising how loud it is, I started using it on band practices, and on smaller gigs, it does the job more than satisfactory :)
does it work for home too?
@@not-pedka sure does, being a solid state, works well at all volumes. Plus, it has a headphone input, so you really can't go wrong with it.
I've got one of the Marshall custom shop JCM1 mini stacks they made for the 50th anniversary. It's got 2 10" cabs, and I rarely use the 1watt setting at home, but usually have it on the 0.1w setting, and it's loud enough that if I put it past 8 you can hear it outside my house. It sounds fantastic too, and I may give the DSL1 a try too.
@Vdx Xxy a friend of mine had a shop, and wanted to close it and move, he found it in his storage room 6months ago, brand new still in the boxes. I bought him a plane ticket to Vancouver and gave him a blackstar practice amp.
@@RByrnejcm1 mini sounds good?
@@samlin3086 yeah, it sounds great. Loud enough for practice that I usually play it off the 0.1watt setting.
It’s just the most sound from 1 watt on earth. The tone is good on both channels , but I’m gonna burn in the tubes & it should be even better.
Rock on 😎
What I Love about this is guys is that he's honest and NOT paid off by companies to push products. With that said, allow me to explain what took place just yesterday. I was looking at a tube amp called Monoprice Stage Right 15 watt tube amp. ( It's the exact same amp as the Harley Benton Amp mentioned in this video. Just a different name. ) As I'm wondering if I should buy the amp, I bumped into this video. So I thought, okay, let's go and check this amp out.
I get to the guy's house, ( Craigslist Sale ) and he has the amp, but also has an empty casing of the exact same amp. So I asked what, do you have 2 of the same amp? He replied Yes! One was damaged through shipping, and he said that it lit up and then shortly afterwards no longer worked.
He wanted $200.00 for the working amp and tried to BS me by saying he paid $300.00 for it. He said it was "Brand New" and indeed it seems brand new. So being a guy, I asked, would you take $150.00 for it? NO! $175 is as low as I'm going, he replied. So I purchased it, and then I asked about the other amp that was gutted. He asked if I would like to purchase it. I said I only have $40.00 left on me. He said he had all the parts upstairs and went and got them.
Remember, this thing was NOT supposed to work! I looked at how the amp I purchased and how it was set up and set the tubes in the chassé the exact same way as the working amp, and the damaged amp lit up!
So I thought, "Okay, There's Hope!" I thought I should purchase the damaged amp in case I ever need parts. There was also a wire that came loose in the reverb tank. I get these amps home and the first thing I do is take apart the working amp to see where to resolder the loose wire from the damaged amp. Well, that was an easy fix.
Then I went and put the reverb tank back into the working amp.
Okay, so can I get the damaged amp to work again. Just a Special Note, the damaged amp is also "Brand New." I then connect the speaker. So I set the tubes in once again correctly and the damaged amp once again lights up! Ah! BUT will it work with my guitar plugged in?
The moment of TRUTH arrives. I plug in my guitar and guess what happens? EVERYTHING WORKED THE WAY IT SHOULD! Without any problems!
When they guy said it no longer worked, he must have put the tubes in the wrong way!
So I now have 2 of these amps ( one with a damaged casing ) but both are brand new for a lousy $215.00!!! ( US Dollars! ) BEAT THAT!!!!
And then it was time to jam! Elmo Karjalainen is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, these are awesome sounding inexpensive amps! I was looking to buy 1 and ended up with 2! While negotiating the price, I made the comment, "I was really hoping to get the amp for $150.00" but got both amps for $215.00!!! That's $107.50 per amp! ( With a little work included )
You see, I knew to check this guy out "Elmo Karjalainen" because he tells the truth, but I had absolutely no idea his number one pick of " Great Budget Amps" was going to be the amp I had my eyes on. It is AWESOME, BEST SOUNDING, AWESOME FEELING TUBE AMP which makes playing easy because it's very responsive!
So listen to this man Elmo Karjalainen he knows what he's talking about!
Thanks Dude!
Sir Zap from Buffalo, New York.
Thank you very much for that story. Very cool :)
Nice!
@@ZiddersRooFurry Yeah, I got lucky!
I own the Marshall code 50 and I love it, I get amazing blues and rock tones out of it, I get it if you’re strictly metal but for me the versatility is awesome
I have marshal g50r cd any oppinion good, bad , or indiffrent thanks
I also have the Marshall Code 50 and here is a tip for you,i did not like how it sounded with the original 12" speaker,it was too harsh and thin sounding but not as bad as Elmo's code 50 sounded,i think he had the wrong cab sim or it was turned off,maybe he had some defect in the code he reviewed?So here is what i did to improve the code 50's tone,i had a old Vintage Quam Nichols 12" Alnico 16 ohm speaker i put in the code 50 and my code sounds so much better now that even Elmo would like it!It is not as loud as the original 4 ohm speaker but the Vintage Nichols measured 11 ohms on my multitester and my Marshall Code 50 still gets loud enough!
Another thing i did was put in my own backboard with a oval port that i cut out,the tone now is much warmer without the harshness and brittle high end like before with the original speaker,i would also maybe try a Vintage 30 type speaker because the Vintage Quam Nichols 12" Alnico speakers may be hard to find used.
@@jimsimmons2674 what I do, is if I’m playing metal or hard rock, I turn the cab off add some mids, turn the bass down and add an OD in front of it and it’s crunchy af
@@HellbillyHalloween Thats good if that works for you but i never got a good tone with my Code 50 with the cab sim off,it always sounded better with a cab sim on for me!If your into metal like you said,try the Joyo Extreme Metal Pedal,i have one and it sounds very good but i am not running it through the code 50 i use it with my Fender Mustang V and Line 6 Spider 4x12 can into the Fender Princeton amp model.
@@jimsimmons2674 I like to have the cab sim on for when I play blues and country for that warm tone and I turn it off for rock and metal so I have more control of the bass and treble, in blues you want a warm tone most of the time, you don’t want that for metal, you want lots of treble, some bass to create a foundation and some mids, to make it thicker sounding
They fixed that “dark” sound on the Spark with the addition of an EQ pedal. You should give it another try. Love all of your input and reviews. One of the better channels on the tube
Thanks!
I totally get the angle at which you go here.
yet! .... These are great advices for players "stepping" in and based on "classic modern" preamp + MV tones only.
The Bandit 112 (or at least the older ones) is a fantastic amp once you use it the way it should be used... which is .... as a tube amp.
the clean channel is fantastic: Volume high, gain low, t dynamics adds compression and pedals do the rest.
The best tone is from the end stage, not the preamp drives. Yes, the drive channel is not that good but hey... we are comparing with single channel amps! So use one channel... the clean one.
Just realised, apart from all the links and direct access to each individual amp, there is also a transcript included ! This must be just about the most in-depth and comprehensive gear reviews on You Tube I've ever seen.
I have the head version of that little 1-watt Marshall. I've used it in the pit for two different musicals this year already. One of which I used it's emulated out direct to the house with no speaker cabinet (we had a completely direct/silent pit). It sounded fantastic both times, the first with my 112 cab and the second with no cab. Amazing little amps for the money. I used to work at a store that was a Peavey dealer. It seems to me that they have tried to make all their stuff, even their solid state stuff, sound like the now famous 5150 amp. They sound very ok, but no matter what you do, they don't sound like a tube amp in any way. I feel like they'd be better off to reduce the gain on tap a little bit. Clean sounds are fairly amazing just from having all that power on tap.
I would add the little Blackstar Fly 3 battery powered amp along side the small Boss battery powered Katana. It's a great little amp and has a built-in delay. I think it was around before the Katana, actually. Might be where Boss got the idea to put a delay in the portable Katana. Both are great little amps, for sure.
I've owned a couple of Peavey amps over the years. My first was a Deuce that I bought back in 1978 or so. 100w, 2-12's. It had a tube power section, but a solid state preamp, which wasn't very good. Honestly, I wonder who at Peavey thought such a concept was a good idea. Me, I wasn't as conversant with tube amps as I should have been. All I saw when I looked at it before buying was that it had tubes, so it must be hot! It was only after I started gigging with it that I realized my mistake.
So after I got rid of the Deuce, what did I do? Well, I bought another Peavey, of course . But I had learned my lesson regarding Peavey's lousy preamp "overdrive" at least. So, I fell into a really good deal on a Peavey Session head. 200 watts RMS. No master volume. This amp stayed clean even when maxed out. It was designed for keyboardists and pedal steel players. I paired it with a 250w PAS 12" enclosure, and had a kickass amp that was crystal clean at all volumes. So, to satisfy my need for that overdriven sound, I bought a Boss overdrive pedal and all was right with the world again.
That Session head was a damn good amp, easily filling every venue I played in. But not a first choice for mos guitarists, unless your guitar sez Shobud on its label, and you play with pedals and levers you move with your knees.
21:56 that is a perfect setting if you want your tone to sound like it's in the other room.
The Vox AC-10 is one of my favorite overall low powered amplifiers with great rivers and a really nice break up. That and the Fender Champ car pretty much unbeatable in my opinion.
The best two advices that I ever got regarding guitar are :
From the woman I considered my mother, "go direct to your amp"
From a bass player "play clean and play loud"..
I now realise that with a nice amp you can get any tone or effect you like direct to the clean amp.
A nd in playing loud and clean, you learn not to hide behind effects and develop great feel and control
As I stated on another video. Peavey used to make good amplifiers, especially for country and western, in Mississippi. Now they market poor to okay amplifiers built in China. I still have an early to mid-1980s Peavey Backstage Plus.
I had a backstage plus for nearly 40yrs with only two problems:a volume pot dying and the spring reverb going wonky after 15yrs. They don't make like that no more
Apples, oranges, and hand grenades. When demonstrating an amp, just demonstrate the pure naked amp alone. When you throw in a Strymon Sunset, Riverside, or anything other than the plain naked amp itself, you destroy any usable comparison. And play exactly the same riffs on each and everyone. Nobody understands "the exception proves the rule"; the amp should be the only exception, everything else should be absolutely identical so one can extract the rule (amp performance). Only one exception, or your demo is useless. I am by the way a retired speaker driver and enclosure designer/engineer.
Great show. I needed an amp for small clubs and having own two different 50 watt Plexi's over the years I was pleased to find the 50 watt Marshall Origin head. If you avoid using the gain and the switch which cuts the wattage it does indeed match my 2 old Plexi's. At a club I have to sometimes use an antenuator with it. A few classic OD's and Fuzz pedals take care of the dirt just fine.
I am 75 and this rig nails sounds I started with back in '71 If you need a small light rig use a single 12 inch closed back cab with the new Celestion NEO Creamback. In spite of it's name it sounds very much like the old vintage Brit made Greenback.It is half the weight and at 60 RMS it can handle the Marshall.
Thanks for this. I’m learning the very basics on an Alvarez 00 acoustic that just happens to be in the house, but I’ve been eying my first electric guitar & amp. It looks like I can get a good, solid first setup for around $500 USD that’ll keep me happy for as many years as I’d like.
Did you get your set up already?
@@chrismillenario5795 the Alvarez? Not much to set up as it's an acoustic... new strings, tweaked the truss rod to set intonation, action could be a touch lower but it's fine as is.
You can do better than $500. Look at the used market. Plenty of great stuff to be found as people upgrade to new stuff. The older stuff still works great, just fewer bells and whistles.
@@indiedavecomix3882 I got tired of looking and just bought a Squier Affinity which I've been very happy with and a Bugera V5 amp that I got on sale. I found some inexpensive upgraded pickups and a new speaker for the amp. All in I'm $570 with a guitar I enjoy playing through an amp that sounds really good (with the new speaker, the stock one was... meh).
At some point in the next year I'll buy another guitar to expand the range of sounds I can make along with whatever pickups I need here and there. I'm enjoying surf rock at the moment so I'll probably add a used CV Stratocaster to the the Jazzmaster I have and dump a bunch of money into a SurfyBear spring reverb.
I have a marshall origin 20, I agree it takes pedals super well. I used an attenuator in the effects loop to vary the volume so I can crank the tubes but keep it a reasonable volume.
What attenuator do you use mate? I've found that even at the lowest wattage setting the volume is too loud for bedroom use when cranking the master volume to get that sweet tube break-up. Any tips/help would be appreciated, thanks!
Since it's only 20 watts, a good L pad will work just fine. Of course that goes between the amp and speaker, not in the fx loop.
The Roland Cube 10GX just PALES in comparison to the original Micro-Cube - and Micro-Cube GX. They took away the amp modeling and replaced it with 3 sound modes. They also removed a lot of the effects and other features. Why Roland did that, I'll never know. I'm glad I have a Micro-Cube GX! It's excellent!
I believe they reduced the functions so as not to compete with Katana since Roland owns Boss.
I find it strange they stopped making them as well.
I've got an old Cube 60. It's excellent and really loud. Great amp and you can get a used one for not much money
@@stevec6427 I bought the same , second hand, for 130 euros. I love it!
@@stevec6427 is your cube 60 good at low volume or as a practice amp?
Peavey Bandit - the older versions - are incredibly well regarded and I think the new one suffers from it's speaker choice. That said, it does massively depend on your style and tone foibles plus it is at the higher end of the scale to be considering a speaker swap.... I had loads of success with the Blackstar HT5 Metal mini head.....wonderful cleans and versatile dirty channel......shame they're hard to find. Out of interest, what speaker did you swap into the HB?
Good list :)
Cheers! It wasn't me, it was my luthier friend, so I'm not entirely sure.
I recently saw a club gig with a MusicMan guitar through a DigiTech modeler into this Peavy Bandit, no mic for PA. I was blown away how good it sounded.
I bought the Micro Dark back in December and this is a monster in a lunchbox, love this amp.
On Shane from "In the blues" advice, I picked up a Peavey Bandit Redstripe. Probably 20 yrs old, and I paid £120. It's loud AF, you can dial in a sweet spot bluesy breakup. There's a beefy low end too. If I jam or play somewhere new or dodgy this is the amp I take. I use it clean and add pedals. It's pretty good you know. Quality Control may have gone in the modern version, but I remember my mates ripping it up in the 80s with the old 60 watt Bandit. It was the go to pub amp ⭐
Yeah, I've heard it said the old ones were better.
I have an American made silver stripe Peavey Bandit 112s circa 1990s and it is phenomenal! Very warm very tube like tone and response. Can't speak for the current crop of Bandits but mine is a keeper!
On the spark you can switch out a mod effect for an EQ and brighten up the sound. Makes a big diff
Amp #9: Peavey Vypyr X series. I have a Vypyr X2 and it's perfect, it's mostly a metal amp but it has tons of variety of tones, presets, pedals, effects, all in a simple and easy to use interface. It's a combo amp that has trans-tube tech (whatever that means) has a multi-instruemnt speaker, meant for acoustic, electric, and even bass!
I love my Vypyr too work with my Ibanez Bass, strat copy, tele copy and Ibanez super-strat One amp to rule them all :)
I've got the vypyr 1 and I really like it.
I bought the Vypyr VIP 2 2nd hand ($65!) And i doubt I'll need to replace it for a while (unless it it dies on me). More features than I'll ever use. But sounds great!
Just purchased a Marshall Code 50 for approx. 280 Euros, and it is a high quality, powerful amp with amazing bass response, as it has a closed cabinet. Makes my Telecaster almost sound like an acoustic guitar.
I that I was saying I’ve had the Marshall code as my second amp and still use it I feel like it’s great for beginners as well because it helps you find what tone you wanna find in your next amp but without the app on your phone i could see it being bad
One thing to remember, if you're playing guitar you don't need much bass at all. The guitar is a mid range frequency instrument.
I have the Marshall DSL1CR and love it. It's a great practice amp and the 0.1W setting keeps my neighbors rage at bay (I live in an apartment).
Cool :)
On a budget, the Mustang micro has been great for practice. for acoustic gigs, I have a roland cube street that has separate channels for mic and guitar and it sounds great. I'm interested in those cheap tube amps for taking to gigs and practices. I have an 81 Carvin EV100 1x12 that's awesome and loud AF but weighs 70 pounds! Great video!
Thanks!
mustang micro on the 60s british setting is the best edge of breakup clean tone i’ve ever had
Did you see the look of amazement in ELMO's face when he heard the epic sounds!!!! 😀
Older Bandit amps sound amazing. The newer one you tried works well as a pedal platform, especially if you use the clean channel or the modern channel with the gain really low and use an OD or distortion pedal for the remainder. A lot of people have had success getting some nasty metal tones by running an HM-2 or similar, and then running it as a layer/stereo rig with something like a 6505 MH or Invective MH paired with a 1x12 cab for the ultimate portable death metal or hardcore rig. Not really your style, but... Tbh I would use the Origin 20 for that, as well. Run an HM-2 or MT-2 into it on relatively low gain on the amp and pair it with a Tubescreamer or Precision Drive boosted bigger amp.
I have the second one--the Marshall DSL1CR.
I had never even heard of it until the day I bought it. I went to the store to try out a Yamaha THR30ii, an employee suggested I try the Marshall too, and I went home with the Marshall.
I always appreciate your honest opinions. I got a spark, I dig it. 2 things in particular, the ability to download tones made by other people, pretty much any player or tone you can think of, and 2) the ability to play music or lessons, including RUclips & Spotify, right through the app.
Cheers!
Can you gig with it in clubs or it's just for practice?
I bought a Marshall VS 265 from my brother who purchased it new but never played it. So, I got a practically-new Marshall VS 265 for $300.00, and I think it is a great amp, especially for a hybrid!
I have 2 valvestates and they are great, zztop used them too
I have the Origin 20 head and I honestly love it. It is really loud though even on low power. If I was running a 4x12 I'd probably get evicted rather promptly.
Probably :D
Origin 20 with a decent speaker and closed back cab sounds great to my ears. Marshall’s launch and demo of these amps did them no favours at all. Lots on line regarding dialling it in, since the controls don’t really behave as you might expect. Great secondhand bargains to be had.
I had a Katana mk2 100, sold it and got a Spark. So happy with the Spark. It's so much better for practicing at very low volumes. Like you said it can sometimes sound a little dark, but just play around in the app or choose a different amp in the app. There are so many good sounds to be had, and I spend far less time getting a decent sound using the Spark app than the Boss Tone Studio
Cool bananas :)
The Spark was the worst amp I have ever played...(ok...not as bad as the Squier "amp" that came with one of their beginners bundles). Terrible sounds and not very loud. I have a Marshall MG10 that basically gives me the one basic rock sound I want and is deafening when turned up compared to the The Spark which is feeble. I have played full valve Marshalls/Boogies etc so I know what a decent amp is supposed to sound like.
The Spark is great!
@@plantagenant each to their own. I can only practice at home at very low volume - talking volume - and for that it's the best I've heard. Not saying it's the best sounding amp at all volume, just what I use it for. Plus it sounds killer through headphones.
@@olafburgermann806 Indeed. I know people love it. Maybe mine's a dud but I don't like it. I prefer my Marshall MG 10 for bedroom...it's louder and sounds more authentic to my ears, and I'm too old to get on with menus. I just prefer to plug in and go. I've gigged and played big real amps from Marshalls to Boogies so I'm not a newbie but as you say, it's all down to personal preference.
I have a Roland Microcube. I usually plug an SG with 57 Classics into it. As seems to be the case with many solid state amps, it does quite a nice clean, but to my ear the more distorted settings aren't all that. For practicing in the garage purposes, it's fine, and I think I paid $100 about 12 years ago. If someone's got a working used one they want to get rid of for a reasonable price, it's worth considering.
Still playing one. Thinking about upgrading to a Spark 40 but not sure how they sound in person
Just bought a barely used Roland microcube for 300 nok, about 30$, it's quite nice. I've almost considered using it instead of my rack amp, easier to bring around.
can't comment on that exact bandit but I paid $20 for a silverstripe a few years back and sure didn't regret it
That Harley Benton (or the monoprice version is what I have) is amazing. Cheapest, best tube amp ever. I like the overdrive/distortion.
the spring reverb is cool as hell to have in a little cheap amp too (although definitely not the best spring reverb ever by any means.)
27:36 reminds me of the tone in the beginning of a Cake cover version of I Will Survive, but slightly more gain.
Valeton Tar-20g is absolutely fantastic as far as solid state amp heads go. The clean sound is fantastic, the crunch is solid and it takes pedals really well. It is also extremely compact and you can use it with your headphones (the cab sim is pretty good). With harley benton cab you can get most of the tones really easy. And it is cheaper than half of the amps mentioned here.
glad to read your comment, i thought nobody shared my opinion on the TAR. lol
"Wait how do these mini tube amps sound so good in a cab with only a few watts?" It takes 10x the power to double the spl, and every 10db is a doubling of perceived spl. So if 1w = 80db, 10w = 90db, and 100w = 100db. You can see how this gets out of hand quickly, which is why efficiency is so important in loudspeaker design. There are many ways to increase efficiency, you could simply use more/larger speaker drivers (i.e 4x12 cab) to achieve higher spl for the same power input, use high efficiency speaker drivers (pro woofers used in cabs generally already are very efficient), and/or horn load the drivers. Combining these methods could easily net you 10-20db efficiency gains over a standard single 12" driver. To go from 100db to 120db in my previous example, you'd need 10000 watts! So you can see how the multiple large drivers of the cab can play a huge role in overcoming lower power input.
The Peavey Bandit 112 Red Stripe 2000’s Made in China edition is actually great for the clean channel and the dirty channel is kinda weak in volume, but I use pedals for dirt anyways. I got one 5 years ago for 100 US Dollars, it was worth that money in my opinion.
ruclips.net/video/Bsbg2CTRnwY/видео.html, is seems that a Bandit is not the same as Bandit so there is a reason to investigate further before not considering those.
I have the Joyo Jackman ii and its just amazing. I play mine through a mini cabinent I made with a Jensen C8r, and I run a multi effects pedal and an EQ pedal through it to really open it up. It's more than you can ask for at that price. It sounds just as big as any other affordable 20 watt tube head through a full size 4x12 cab, and the bluetooth works great.
On a side note, playing it through headphones is how I use it the most, does that great too.
Nice video, there are so many options too choose from nowadays, it can get confusing. Considering the fender mustang to replace my old and very loud fender eighty-five, seems the versatility of this little thing is quite impressive. Same goes with the line6 spider line, very affordable as well.
Great playing, as usual, I like how you switch from pure shredding to blues/jazz, it's quite impressing.
Thanks! Glad you like it.
I had an eighty five deluxe, far too loud for home use
I agree. I also like when Elmo goes from shred to jazz/blues or even ambient type playing. He is a very capable all around guitarist. I learn from him and enjoy his playing. I find him also great at getting various tones from great and not so great gear. I love when he says "let's see how it feels about some overdrive". Love the hi gain assault with skill. Just sayin. Check out his originals too. You'll like it I think. And last He is a very funny Dude.
21:57 I like how, out-of-context, it makes it seem like the bass is so stupidly loud and muddy that it completely drowns out his laughter, which makes it even funnier.
nice that you mentioned the micro cube. big fan of these small little 50 bucks amps myself. best price to sound value ever
Yep.
I have one that I got ages ago at a local music store after watching a bunch of videos about it. Love that little guy.
Very to the point and useful. However, your joy of playing is the most inspiring part. I never got on with the Peavey Bandit, but one of my former students played one, and it sounded great. He used a guitar with humbuckers.
Thanks! 😊
I have bought a champion 20 recently and I have to say that I am very happy that I did choose it, perfect for home use but also loud when you want to crank it up somewhere else, really universal nice sounding amp thanks to the settings but also easy to set up unlike some modelling amps. The one on the vid is a 50xl and it in many ways looks and sounds different than mine so maybe they are connected only by name
I believe the XL line only upgraded the speaker (came with Celestion speakers instead of Fender ones), and I think they have some USB connectivity. I own a Champion 100, it looks and sounds great. I don't care if it's solid state, it holds its own against my tube amps.
Live I play a plexi 100 through a quad of redbacks. Practice rig is a code 100 combo. You gotta spend a bit of time with the code and dont push the bass. I changed speakers to t-75, disconnected wifi connector (makes noise), and do not use stock presets. I build my own preset off the plexi patch and get a damn decent tone. Tighten the screws all around cabnet. Effects loop works better with outboard chorus and delay- I dont use onboard effects so I built a little board just for the code. Use the amp as a stand alone amp and it's better than the presets and modeling. I can see why a person would not want to gig all the time with it- ( can be a bit noisey, and needing to check your settings every gig) but it could do it in spades. It's just not for adhd people.
I always liked Peavey amps. Way before they got involved with EVH. Great amps for classic rock and they can clean up well. I favored a deluxe reverb for live most of my life.
HB15 is just a badge engineered Stageright 15 which, in turn is a Laney Cub with a better speaker. Electronically, all 3 are identical.
I have a Marshall dsl1 head that I put through a 112 cab with a vintage 30.
Sounds great. Surprisingly loud as well.
Cool :)
You missed the Blackstar Id Sore Stereo 40. the original version which I I have one I got used for under $100 US and the Starcaster "Strat" I got a year later both from my Local 'Music-Go-Round. I did an extreme mod/build of the guitar. 3 quad rail humbuckers wired like a Les Paul with P/P pots for coil splitting and one of the tome pots also P/P to activate the neck and bridge Pickups together regardless of the 5-way switch position all mounted in the custom hand made stainless steel pick extended pick guard to hold all the extra controls and the output jack too... all grounded through the steel of the pick guard ... Les Paul '50 style wiring with a third pair pf pots and hmbucker added.. coil splitting and bypass gives this guitar so many variables and combinations that I haven't yet calculated just how many I can get. lets just say it's a whole lot. the pick ups average about 18.5 k-ohms each and split to around 8-9 K each. each has 4 coils so even split are still humms but sound like single ciols split. the way i wired them for splitting active coil toward the brudge side of the pick up. I may add leds for active coil indecators using the opposite sides of the P/P switchon the vol [ots for the led circuit... each side of the P/P being independant of each other... so usefull for my needs. that's a lot of wiring to solder and route.. I have a plan that will work the way I want it to. ... Oh what fun this will be to play and show off.
I totally and completely agree with you, sir. On all counts.
I own the Boss Katana mini. The joyo marshall to my ears better than the two actual Marshall's. I own the Joyo version of the Orange (meteOR) and paired it with a Orange cabinet. Both the Joyo meteOR and Micro Dark have great flexability. And they are so cute and tiny. Brands like Marshall and Fender can sometimes occasionally make a mistake or make a dud. Band Trio pedal does a better job at jamming along with the player than the Spark amplifier. The Harley Benton and the Joyo both show that Big Name brands are not always all that they are made out to be. And that small brands can on occasion are just as good and sometimes better.
I would love to hear this review with humbuckers. I love Strats, but they are completely different in tonal characteristics
I was thinking of getting a Spark but gave up on the idea since it felt strange to buy an amp with the same price as my guitar for a beginner, so I got a Fender Mustang L25. It has a lot of presets, sounds good and I'm happy with it.
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Good choice Eliyahu. I have the Positive Grid Bias Amp 2. I do like the sound of the unit but Positve Grid failed on the software application for PC. They don't care. Their software graphics for PC comes in at a reduced size for the computer screen. it's small and not legible. I don't know why they didn't care enough to fix it. I still like the sound of the Bias Amp 2 but the software issues are too much to deal with. The worst part is that they just don't care. They also have a very nasty customer service situation. Worst people to talk to. Worst attitude in the business. I no longer spend my money with them. You'll be happy with your Fender Mustang amp.
@@jakesmith4506 Sorry to hear. Only tried the Android app.
I use a 5150 iii w/Marshall cab for band performance and a spark for practice. I think Spark delivers really good sound and you can get ‘em fairly cheap now. Overall I think it’s a good product for whatever that’s worth. 👍
Elmo, I own a code and I don't hate you. I will say that my code 50 died and would not turn on anymore. I still have a code 25 that my son and I use. It does take some time to dial in a sound. The presets are crap. Your channel is brilliant. I love the way you will play a well-known song and play a part of it deliberately wrong and laugh about it. Simply Awesome!!!
Thanks!
I have an older Roland Micro Cube and the Monoprice Stage Right 15 (same as the Harley Benton). Both great amps!
You’re still the guy that led me to my Marshall 1987x purchase about 2 years ago. Best amp ever!
Glad you like it :)
I had a heavily modded first generation Bandit 50 that was stolen, I didnt keep sufficient notes of what I did to it over 3 year period. I could pull and push the pots and twiddle knobs and have a totally different amp for the next song. It did everything I asked it to do. I've had later iterations and none worked as well.
22:57 On that Vox amp to YOUR right.... Is that a Boss Super-Feedbacker Distortion pedal you have there?
I use a kenwood krf a4030 receiver as guitar amp..always stereo and all the connections you need for home recording. Need effects tho.. If you really have little money you can find such amps at thrift stores or pawnshops
Having some trouble getting the highs tamed in my code 50 but it doesn't sound as bad as it does here even with a telecaster.
Those Joyo Bantamps are incredible value for money. I was looking at buying one but went for a Terror Stamp instead, which (I believe) is a Micro Dark in pedal form. Great little amp which punches well above it's weight when you factor in it's price. ✌️🇦🇺
The joyo stuff is unbeatable especially at the price for sure
The HB tubes - 15 watt whipped them all. It is probably modeled after a Blues Jr. A lot of the guitar amp makers have forgotten the sweet spot of a 15 watt - 25 watt tube amp. That is all you need for local bar use. If they built more of them in that range, there would be a lot more guitarists. Boss Katana II / Peavey 6505 / Roland Cube / VOX
Laney not Fender. Basically identical PCB, slightly different tube configuration
Love the CODE 25 it sounds much better than the 50.
Once the 25 is dialed in, purty impressive amp.
IIRC, the Marshall Code combos for some reason always load up with the integrated IR loader/cab emulation enabled, even though you are playing through the real speaker. It would make much more sense to have the IR loader only available for the DI output. You have to disable the IR to hear what it actually should sound like. Maybe you did that in your Code 50 video, and it just sounded like crap anyways?
Btw, I would definitely add the Fender Bassbreaker 007 head and combo to this list. They are so underpowered that you'll barely be able to use one as a practice amp. The 10" speaker sounds pretty good tho, but I would definitely go for the 30w version. They are otherwise very good sounding amps.
I've had loads of Peavey Bandits during a 35 year period. I cant speak for the latest model but I bought a USA Red Stripe last year that was like new for £70.Good clean channel and with a decent OD pedal a good gigging tool...that Harley Benton sounded great BTW
In addition ... I just tested a Les Paul through the redstripe Bandit's clean channel with the volume on cranked and t dynamics on 10%. Just put the treble not too high. Sounds 10 times better than the drive channel... But its loud.
Give it a try!
I have a red stripe studio pro and i dont ever use the drive channel( it sucks) the clean channel is awesome. It's a pedal platform amp. Upgrade the speaker and stack together three drive pedals and enjoy. Sounds bad ass that way.
@@araconteur3737 absolutely. Studio pro is 60 watt version without presence control. But same sound. Thing is, one easily looks at these amps as classic ss amps with gain and master. But the magic is forgetting about the drive channel and using the clean channel as a vintage non gain tube amp. The power amp does not clip because of the hidden overdrive circuit after the preamp. I think at Peaveys they overestimated the target users. But these amps could have worked without drive channels as vintage transtubes.
@@stevenburvenich168 they should have deleted the drive channel and added a master volume to the clean channel. But you're correct about that, I see it as more of an old clean fender tube amp and that's how I approach it. For some reason people assume it's a drive amp but it's not. At least not without the proper pedal board.
@@araconteur3737 100%
ruclips.net/video/K0eZX04rlD0/видео.html woman tone into clean channel + power amp sim + my own added master control. never mind the playing :/
i would have preferred to hear more of the amps body with basic rock chords and barre/open string type harmonic chord content .
the frantic speed picking demos where not as revealing and after time , hard to sit thru
that said, i appreciate the reviews and the work you put into your channel
Whoever said that his champion 50xl was broken I agree with because I have one and I love that amp, it may not be the best amp but it doesn’t sound bad
I have several high-end amps AND I have a Champion 50XL as well. There's no way I could make mine sound the way his does here. I agree with you, that it's not perfect, but I hope people don't ignore this amp because of this review. I can't figure out which setting he is on, but this is one of my favorite low-cost practice amps. I do respect this reviewer's opinion and I like this channel, so nothing against him.
I have the Fender LT-25, €127 when it just came out and nobody had yet picked up on the fact that it's good; basically, the speaker in it is actually clear and punchy.
Staying on the topic of budget, i'm very surprised Elmo hasn't reviewed the cheap Cort and Behringer amps yet. I'm incredibly disappointed. Very upset indeed. A bit of a letdown. Clearly a malicious individual who loves to disappoint people. Elmo ruined my winter.
Quite personally many of this amps are subjective to what people like I heard a guitar player on a marshall code 8 sounded killer all this guy do is make faces play the Malmsteen wanna be and sound awful
So much gear, so little time. But that is just an excuse. I must admit I didn't review those just to personally offend you :D
I was under the impression that bandits were generally considered to be great sleeper amps at least the older ones
One low buck Marshall I did like was the HAZE I ran it in my rack for a few years.
It took the Rocktron intellifex and other EQ very well. It loved my Jackson JX3 overdrive too
Rocktron Intellifex brought a smile to my face. Wonderful piece of equipment... great Reverb presets for its day
Someone help me out, I have a Starcaster Stratocaster by fender, what is the best amp I can get for it with a budget of like £60. Willing to get preowned.
Roland Micro Cube.
@@MrPolevaulterexcellent advice. Had one for at least 15 years. I bought it for my boat. Batteries last forever, never left the boats (4 boats, two open boats). My first one lasted that entire time in our Texas weather (HOTT, and occasionally down to teens in the winter). I suppose the speaker finally deteriorated as it just flubbed in the end. Not worth a speaker replacement. All those years later, in 2020 I researched what was available to replace it with and it led me right back to another one. Got the blonde one this time! 😂❤ A few updates, but basically still the class of the league. Love how you could, for example, simply swap the included small strap with a guitar strap and walk, roller skate, whatever - with it hanging off your shoulders! Yah, yah!
The first Marshall combo amp (1 Watt) sounded very good... tone for days... Tube/Valve is the only way to go, regardless of amp choice...