SHITS ABOUT TO GET LOUD - Seymour Duncan Powerstage 170
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Trying out the smaller Powerstage 170. And it gets sorta loud. Sorry.
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That's It, Ola, FUCK THOSE NEIGHBORS UP!!!! \m/
I Hate Equipment that's "Neighbor Friendly" lol.
Ola I love ur videos. I hope to be doing stuff like this in the future. You are an inspiration to us all!!!
Hello Ola, I would like that in these series you would put the controls to the maximum to be able to scan as these pedals and effects sound
Ola Englund so did you likes it?
Ola Englund... most beloved neighbour in all of Stockholm.
Now moving to the countryside, and all the moose will run far away.
@@stormflod9353 I'm not sure, everything about Scandinavia is heavy metal, maybe something in the water... hence I expect the wildlife to be metal to the core.
@@spitefulwar core is not true metal xd
He needs to learn how to play a guitar not this chuging crap.
@@CREPERUM he meant core in the literal way.
I've seen some people giving this bad reviews because they don't understand Ohm's Law, and spew that old "solid state watts" vs "tube watts" nonsense.
170W @ 4 ohms
85W @ 8 ohms
42.5W @ 16 ohms
So ... if you have a 16 ohm 4x12 cab and want to use this thing at full power. Wire the 4 speakers in parallel, you'll have a nominal load of 4 ohms and thus full power. You're welcome.
I wish more musicians learned a little about RF engineering and electrical basics so they knew these basic facts as well.
Hey this is an old reply form you but I figured I would ask, if I plug this into my 2x12 8 ohm cab that is okay for the cab and should still give some decent volume, correct? I am looking for a clean power amp to run my PC plugins through.
Why not mention what happens to distortion when the impedance goes down?
@@nazgullinux6601
Most guitarists hate math and technical shit. Myself included.
@@travis3656 you asked this question a while ago, but, to answer....this is what I’m using (8ohm 2x12), and I have plenty of volume and clarity. I typically play in medium sized clubs and the 170 never has to go much above about 9:00 position
RIP Louise's ears
I use the Power Stage 170 with my Line 6 Helix LT. Toured Europe with that rig and it sounded great and consistent! Easy and quick to setup. I like the sound of the PS 170 better than running my Helix through the fx loop of a valve amp.
Yeah man, the Powerstage 170 paired with modelers sounds awesome. I run a Fractal AX8 with my 170.
Hey bro... we can work with that in home in standart dbs ?
Very relieved to be seeing these comments as I'm ordering my Helix and PS 170 tomorrow. I guess I made the right decision. Thanks guys!
What cab are you using with the ps 170?
@@jadegold3297 Marshall 1960A
Hey Ola, im using the Powerstage 170 for my ax8 as back up for my sound on stage when i doesnt have any amp. Works perfect. Its placed on my padelboard and works with every cab on stage. In my oppinion the best thing ever. Great Video 🙂
Exactly the same setup for me, only not as a backup. It's my main amp :)
Did you come from a 100w tube amp? Curious, bcoz that's what i'm using. Can you give me an idea of how they compare?
Nice one Ola, secretly sneaking in the Solar E 7 string you bastard ;-)
Mobi666 why sneaking? That model is already available
ARE YOU OKAY?
* looks at camera* It’s not okay
Hahahahaha
Way back in 1994 I learned that solid state amps are able to compete with all tube amps, tonewise and when it comes to a simple setup. I joined a metal band then, both guitarists used the Rocktron Velocity preamp and a solid state power amp, one made by Rocktron, one beeing a simple PA poweramp with 200 Watt. Into a 212" cab those simple rigs sounded awesome.
OK, nothing beats the feel of an all tube poweramp, be it for guitar or bass.
But those solid state solutions are great, too - even when it comes to guitar.
Kong and Basses in this day and age 95% of people can’t tell the difference between a Kemper and a real amp. It doesn’t even make sense financially to buy a real amp in this day and age unless it’s a one of a kind type head
@@transient442 It never made sense to spend anything above bare minimum, say 100w, amps and that was if you were a touring musician. The entire music gear business is a business of passion. Even your Kemper is an overpriced piece of gear NO ONE needs. But, the thing is that this is not about direct value, but about artistic expression, and what ever floats your boat.. well.. floats your boat. Only you can put the monetary value on that, but don't kid yourself that any piece of gear is a financially "good deal".
GurktheBrutal okay there’s a difference between wants and needs, we are talking about a hobby here. I’m saying if you have the money to buy either a real amp or a Kemper it doesn’t make sense to buy a real amp considering a Kemper can replicate multiple amps to a tee hence the reason I said it doesn’t make sense financially to buy a real amp. Yes you can get decent tones from a 100 watt solid state amp but you’d be lying to yourself if you were to say that the tone would be as detailed and accurate as a Kemper, there’s a noticeable difference between the two that justifies the price difference.
@@transient442 The point is that if YOU notice a difference, and YOU feel it is worth the investment, it definitely isn't ruled out.
Just like you say there's a noticeable sound difference between solid state and your digital modeler, there's a subjectively noticeable sound difference between a real tube head and a Kemper.
It's ALL about if you're willing to pay for what you, subjectively, considers an improvement. To say there's any realistic reason behind buying anything but a 10 w practice amp is lying to yourself. That distinction does not stop at 'Kemper'.
GurktheBrutal actually it kinda does stop at Kemper. There’s plenty of blind test out there with a kemper vs real amp and most people end up thinking the kemper is the real amp. The best example of this is andertons video on this.
To say the difference between a 10w practice amp and a 100 watt solid state amp is equal to the difference of a kemper vs real amp is straight up wrong lol maybe your ears are broken or something
I love mine! Been using it live for over a year now
hey do you still use it? been thinkin of selling my 120 Watt Tube head for it
Loud enough to run a 4x12 for a metal gig?
Same here...my rig is basically an hx stomp, power stage 170, and a 2x12 cab. Not playing much metal, but in a classic rock cover band. The power stage never really goes above about 9:00 position and I have all the volume I need. Since this video, Seymour Duncan has released a more powerful amp, but I don’t see the need to go to it.
@@toemasmeemswhy sell. Just have both. I kept my 6505 for home use
I have one, it's awesome. Replaced my matrix Gt1000FX which is a 350watt poweramp at 8ohm. This thing is louder, more compact, has an eq and fit's in my pedalbag. Now I only need another one so i can do stereo live! :)
i was wondering if it would. Did you happen to use an Axe Fx?
@@theaustralianhulk indeed I do, i use an AX8!
@@Poepopdestoep Powerstage 170 + AX8 is a great combo!
Hi! Its enough power for reharseal with loud drummer and another guitar player?
@@sebastianberroeta8951 yes it is!
I LOVE Seymour Duncan ! You can trust this!
Playing SD since I start Playing Guitar... F*CKING love it 😎
Yes yes and yes
This is indeed a very loud power amp. I run my Ax8 into it and the PS170 is going into a Orange 2x12 cab. I can easily use my fractal for foh but stage sound is important.
How does it compare to a modeler into a tube poweramp?
@@ChuranuQC the only tube power amp I ever tried was the Orange Micro Dark. Can't say much on that part. Sounded good, just wasn't loud.
@@Upisdownhtx hey man my guitarist is thinking of buying this..this thing is loud and good enough for touring bands?
@DaddyVader87 if you need to go louder, they do have the 200 version and also the 700. 170 will get the job done
@@Upisdownhtx ok thanks he also plays through a 2x12 so wasn’t sure if that made the difference or not playing so long with fridges just isn’t sensible anymore but still need it to be loud enough for shows.
Both myself and the other guitarist in our band (Casket Feeder) use these live with AMT preamp pedals and they are plenty loud even into 16ohm cabs. Expensive but a massive step up from the EHX 44mag power amp
Would you call these as loud as a 50/60w tube head like a VTM 60 or Marshall 2204? It runs apparently 47 or so watts into 16 ohms.
Russell Harrison Played a show into a 16 ohm Marshall 4x12 tonight and I didn’t need to go past 11 o’clock so I would say yes
@@aaronmackenzie139 Hell yeah. Im trying to decide between this and one of those quilter deals. I don't have a preamp, but some good sounding drive pedals. I feel like the quilters are less neutral than these power blocks and give a more "amp like" response, for better or for worse. We'll see. This is why music stores have return policies.
Looks like a godsend for those who gig using modeler multi-fx units who plan on using whatever cab the backline is providing.
I own 2 of these which I use with a Helix from time to time when I need a small rig. Great thing about it though is that it fits in the top pocket of the Helix bag
I'm about to buy this and use it with my Helix too. Are you satisfied with the combination ? I have heard that they're fitting great
@@metallicektoras1995 yeah dude! They work great ☺️
I have tried the Orange PB, SD 170 and the Fryette PS2 for powering a Line 6 Helix. The Orange is too dark and gives all models an Orange amp tone. The Fryette PS2 was very good and better then the Orange, but the best imo was the SD 170 for a Helix. The EQ controls on the 170 are VERY sensitive and adds a quick tweak when needed to any Helix model. Its sort of a powered EQ with great responce. Thats the one I kept and use for a Helix.
Thanks Tanner. I have been debating between the Fryette PS2 or the Seymour 700 PS.. it's only $100 difference but I am stuck on tubes still. Can you tell me what you felt the difference was between the Fryette and the SD PS?
I have one. It’s really loud! I crushed over my loud drummer. Sounds awesome but yes lots of bass.
If anyone doubts the capability of the 170 W model, I've used it with a regular 8 Ohm Recto 412 with an Axe FX and its more volume than you need. Toe to toe with a Mesa Mark V or EVH 5150III 50W with a metal drummer. If you at a venue and the drummer is getting miced, get your cab miced too ya dingus. More input level will make it significantly louder too, so I set the PS170 to about 40% and use the axe fx volume knob.
November’s Doom uses these. Awesome.
I have that device, the PowerStage 170 ☺ My signal goes from mi guitar to a POD HD500X, PS170, Mesa/Boogie 1x12 cab with an Eminence speaker. I sounds LOUD!
I’m curious on how the boss metal zone would sound like hooked up the the SD powerstage 170
Good
I think this is going to be my next investment in my downsizing. Add it to my pedalboard so I don't have to lug my Marshall JCM 800. It will just be the pedalboard, guitars, and 4 × 12 cab and I'll be good to go for the gig.
What pedals do you use to emulate your JCM 800?
Gawd-damn! That thing gets twice as loud as an *actual chainsaw* at 20% power level.
Those beautiful bastards certainly cooked up something spicy...
I use the 200 version with a 2x12 at 4 ohms and it doesn't sound as loud as any 50 watt tube amp.
So you need plug-ins to run this?
Is it possible to to just plug straight into it and run that through a cab?
I'm buying one today. Going to have it in a few hours from now haha.. I'll use it with my FM3 (Fractal Audio). Can't wait to hear that. I hope it will sound as good as in your video. I'm pretty sure it will, with all the good review this thing has.
update? how does it sound at band practice and live?
Should I assume since you didnt really say much about or do any other pedal options with it that it sucks ? Cant tell on my own over YT and the way it was presented. Thanks.
I use one with the Helix into a H&K 2X12 with 30's - it's crazy loud.
Yeah, the Powerstage works great with modelers and it sure is loud.
I love when you play the Dime guitars 🤘🏼🖤
How does it sound on a clean channel like a vox fender type amp? Would you record a set up with AmpliTube, tone x does it sound professional or is it just okay? In your opinion. Thanks in advance if you get to answer the questions.
I have a KSR Ceres on order. I was thinking about a tube power amp but now this might be the way to go
I just got one of these and they are super handy. Good stuff.
"That's not healthy at all." ~ Ola Englund 2019 \m/
I want it 🤘 but I don't think I have the money for it, how much in USD ola
Ola... do i need this poweramp or i'm just as good with only my amp's poweramp?
Hello Ola, I have seen several of your videos and you use this powerstage a lot, excuse the ignorance, but I am Spanish and it is difficult for me to understand English and I have several doubts, for example, could it be considered as an amp, I mean can I plug in the direct guitar? to the powerstage and from the powerstage to the screen? I have a Marshall screen with four speakers. Can I connect my guitar to an overdrive pedal for example and from the pedal to the powerstage and from the powerstage to the screen? Would it work for me? thanks in advance, excuse the ignorance
Hey there Javi, I know this is an old post but since you didn't get an answer from Ola I thought I'd give you one! Yes the PowerStage is an amp. You can plug your guitar directly into it and then plug it into your Marshall cabinet. You can plug your overdrive and any other pedals into it and it will work just like plugging into any clean guitar amp. I have used the PowerStage exactly like this, with overdrive and distortion pedals into and then into a cabinet and it works great, and it gets very loud! I have even just plugged my guitar directly into the PowerStage and used it simply that way to get a very dry and clean sound when I needed it. It's very useful! Hope this helps, sorry for such a late reply to your question. Cheers
I have and used on of these for a long time with my ax8 but switched to using my bogner shiva with the ax8,...just a totally different presence that cuts through so much more than this, even with the mids turned up on the powerstage. Hard to explain, has plenty of volume but different than a tube amp, thin i guess you could say, at least in a live band setting. Sounds great alone
How would the cab impact volume. I am considering the PS 170 or 200 for a 2x12 16 ohm cabinet with 60 Watt speakers. Will it be enough?
Lov my PS170! Super mobile! Hx Stomp into ps170 into 4x12 cab. EQ is awesome when using random back line to make quick adjustments
biggmigg22 \m/ is it loud and pushy through a 4x12? I actually wanted to try this same setup pretty soon! How does the hx stomp react with it despite not having tube power?
@@walidgad5234 yes! Works great with 4x12, 2x12, 1x12. Stomp works great, just make sure your not using any cab sims or IRs. It's basically a very versatile solid state amp sound. But with great power
A typical Marshall Half stack cranked in 118-127 dBa. @ 3ft. Typical rock concerts today are 105-110 dBa.
Sound needs to be 3dBa louder for the human ear to notice an increase in sound. However for every 10dBa increase sound will be twice as loud. The maximum I have measured guitar amps was a set of 4 100 watt stacks and it was 130 dBa.
Get a better sound meter, measure in "slow response" on the A scale.
Is your cab a 4 ohm cab? I would probably be using this with an 8 or 16 ohm cab so I was just wondering if it would still be loud?
I've been using the 170 for a couple years now, on various stages and different sized venues and it's plenty loud no matter where I've gone. Used it with 8 ohm cabs and it's still quite loud, though at that impedance the power output sits at about 85 watts.
Ola the Loudererer
Ola! Are you running the power amp into ur cab at 4,8,or 16 ohms?
This I need to know!
would you be able to plug that into front of house? Like, could I use this at a gig without the need for a cab or will I still need one
There no shot I just got a hearing aid ad after the video finished hahaha perfect
Tjena, Tänkte beställa nya G-serien. Vad är det för skillnad på GC2.6C och GF2.6C?
Siiick!!! I really like this thing.
How are you sending from you interface to your cab? Plugging cab into the monitor section?
Love the idea, but still not sold for a replacement of my main rig.
I wonder how much ohms wat the stage plugged to? I hate the sound of a 4ohm input
Can this be used for live performances alone with a half stack with an overdrive booster?
Hey Ola! I have a similar setup but mine sound nothing like it....is there any way you can explain the exact setup and volumes you are using for your interface to get those tones from the fortin plugin? Thanks!
must be nice to have a Dime guitar w an original floyd rose. Im replacing the coupling bar on my dime'o flame bc the angle of the bar sucks and having it swinging around makes too much noise. Being able to set it anywhere on an original is where its at. My kh2 plays like a dream.
Not a fan of how that DImebag plugin sounds tbh
Måsstaden I know. Sounded too muffled
@@AQS521 Ola had the treble pretty low. More treble and midrange would've opened up that sound.
Woofy
Can this be used with just a amp modeler in front of it?
I don’t use the eq on my powerstage 170 so not to interfere with my master effects preamp pedal
Ola man I love you but at the volumes you are playing at you REALLY should be wearing earplugs. Anything over 75db is a maybe, anything over 85 is a probably and over 95, hello tinnitus, not to even mention the 120db? You were hitting. I can't tell if you do wear them or not but you can get plugs that provide a good db cut but not much of a frequency cut or even the custom earplugs don't cost a huge amount these days. Love you bro but hearing damage is permanent and certainly not cool. Cheers.
Well the microphone for the meter is in front of the cab, my ears are not. The difference is big. But I really appreciate the concern
@@OlaEnglund very true there really is, take care man, love the content ❤❤
I have a powerstage200 it is awesome!!!
Oh my god, the Legend...Dimebag Darell i would love to have the same sound as he has! Im a BIG Dimebag Darell fan since Cowboys from Hell!!!!! 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
Ola,
What speakers do you use in that cabinet?? I have an helix LT
and I'm considering buying that amplifier !! Thanks
Is the Hesu rated at 4, 8, or 16 Ohms?
8 I believe.
Ola, how would you compare this to a tube poweramp? I run my GT-1000 into the poweramp of my Mesa combo and it sounds very good. I was wondering if I would sacrifice tone using this into a cab.
nobody:
my neighbor at 3am for no exact reason: 2:50
Hey Ola, sorry for the delayed comment. Would this work for a bass rig?
Perhaps try using the dB(C) weighting if it's available on your meter to measure the peak loudness more accurately, measurements using A weighting above 100dB SPL won't be as accurate generally speaking.
How would it sound with a high gain distortion pedal instead of the plug-in?
I bought one for my AX8. I like it but, I find that it sounds pretty fizzy with any preset I use so I end up using the global graphic EQ on the AX8 a lot.
Do you have the power amp sim on your AX8 off or on? I use an AX8 with the Powerstage 170 and I have the power amp sim turned on. I haven't gotten any kind of fizziness with it so far.
Can we achieve sweet spot at a very low volume? I mean like for bedroom practice...
You know the sound when a 1979 Datsun drives by with a 10,000 watt boom boom "stereo"
with rattling speakers in every rusty door?
HI Ola, this was what I was waiting for..The Power stage accept in entry also the Line Out from an audio USB interface ? (steinberg R22 mk 2 foe ex..)?
the fortin power amp is really hard to come by. Whats your top recommendation of a power amp to use with a synergy module or preamp pedal?
Could you try the Harley Benton 100w - £90 ! Compare pls
2:02 You know shit hammers, when Ola does this face
I need that jersey!!! Why not to make one for the Ola merch?! Will be fantastic!
nice test man , it was awesome and fun , many thanks 👍🤟
Positive Ola, You are Da Bomb!!!!
Do you prefer it to a external tube power amp, like your custom 50w fortin satan power amp? I would guess the tubes still win?
Asking as I am looking into getting one for my pedal rig but not sure if I should go for something like the power stage or if I should get a 50w tube power amp. I love plugging my preamps through fx loops of 6505 or 5150s.
I've used many power amps with my Helix (including power sections of various valve amps, and a valve power amp), but this wipes the floor with all of them thanks to the active EQ - it's an absolute life-saver at gigs, where you have to adapt to the room on the fly. Using Helix -> this -> guitar cab, it's indistinguishable from a real amp as far as I'm concerned. That's a very, very good thing :)
Also, it's violently loud even into an 8 ohm cab (when it's putting out about 85-90W). I tried a volume test, and chickened out when I could no longer hear our drummer.
@@digiscream Do you run it with Preamp section only into the powerstage, or full amp head sim into the powerstage?
I id try some other custom non-tube power amp a year back with my preamps and it didnt sound as "ampy" as going through the tube power amp section of an amp head.
Also, given that I've got a lightweight Matrix 2x12", the fact that this fits in my rucksack with the Helix means I can carry everything from the car in one go and be set up before everybody else has finished lugging their gear in :D
@@peterrovaniemi138 - I use the full amp models, because it's very neutral as a power amp and I only use the EQ very lightly to correct for stage resonance and damping.
Great review Ola. Any chance to do a side to side comparison against the ISP Stealth Pro Power Amp?
Hate to be the safety police but you were regularly hittin 105 db. At those levels it doesn't take much exposure to do permanent damage to your hearing. At least have anyone around use hearing protection. Nothing sexy or rock and roll about hearing loss or tinnitus.
Just to be stupid I matched your dB reading in my own studio with monitor speakers to get in the mood. Loud enough.
Please, review to harley benton gpa-100
Cool, those look handy as F! rock on Ola!
thank for good video! so, companies sending you all shit , do you keep it or return it?
Sorry for my comment on last video but i was a bit scared. Awesome peace of hardware that Powerstage...and THAT WASHBURN!! \m/ so much better than the chug video without db meter ;P
So I could run something like an engl e530 into one of these, then into a cab... I’m interested.
Hey ola, question for your faq, have you heard of Byzantine from West Virginia, if not you should give them a listen
That replay slo-mo made my day😂😂😂
Tome it sounds like it has a slight chorus effect but n it from riffage at 1.42.
Does the Dimebag guitar tuned on 432hz?
All I can say is; HO-LY-FUC-KING-SHEEET that power amp solves almost any problem a guy with a rack can have! also usefull if your amp doesnt match the impedance of your cab but has a direct out
What string gauge do you use on standard tuning Ola?
Hi Ola, can i use this as my master volume? Im plugging my distortion at the fx return but the volume of the pedal is not enough, i need to increase more my volume. Thanks a lot. Keep it up
Solid 6/10
I love this thing!
More videos like this please !
Turning the knob on the left all the way up sounds like what you'd hear through the floor as your neighbor plays.
Where you get the pedal stand? 🤔
Anyone know what kind of strings he uses?
Hey Ola can you do a review of the 'NEMBRINI AUDIO BST100 SUPER OVERDRIVE '? IT'S ON SALE NOW TOO. WOOHOO