Pierre Cochereau - Mass No. 4 - IV. Sortie

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  • Опубликовано: 1 янв 2025

Комментарии • 48

  • @ivanmaric8448
    @ivanmaric8448 3 года назад +18

    Finally!
    I've been listening to this for years ... and now I'm watching. read the book of revelation and listen to this .... magnificent

  • @yeetthebeet
    @yeetthebeet 3 года назад +17

    Absolutely insane that this was improovised!

    • @joshuag.4873
      @joshuag.4873 2 года назад +6

      It would be much easier to improvise something like this than to read it off a score!

  • @user-nk5jb8dj1s
    @user-nk5jb8dj1s 3 года назад +6

    FABULEUX ! Le génie de Pierre Cochereau sous nos yeux, et dans nos oreilles.
    On imagine le travail qu'il a fallu pour réaliser la transcription.
    A la fin de la présentation il y a un lien permettant de se procurer la partition.

  • @virtuoso4107
    @virtuoso4107 3 года назад +11

    This impro was selected by Pierre Pincemaille with many others gathered in the "L'organiste liturgique" (SOCD 226).

  • @yagiz885
    @yagiz885 3 года назад +16

    Such an epic opening, thanks for the score.

    • @yagiz885
      @yagiz885 3 года назад +2

      @@chronochromie772 piano supremacy

  • @BrunoMégara
    @BrunoMégara 10 месяцев назад +2

    Le BOSS !

  • @wilfriedvomacka1783
    @wilfriedvomacka1783 Год назад +2

    This left me speechless 😮

  • @josephnguyen6878
    @josephnguyen6878 3 года назад +24

    Fantastic that there's a transcription! Unfortunate that it doesn't seem to have been made by an organist though.

    • @guscox9651
      @guscox9651 3 года назад +12

      I think the somewhat vaugue indications like "brighter" are actually the best thing you could write in this case. If youre too specific youll probably be wrong and make it impossible for anyone to play it on their local organ

    • @cliveso
      @cliveso 3 года назад +1

      I agree. Whoever transcribed it either knows jack shit about the organ, or is a very poor organist.

    • @cliveso
      @cliveso 3 года назад +4

      @Gus Cox
      It's much worse than that. The "registration" indications are the least of the problems. Really you need to have a masterful understanding of organ playing, the French organ tradition and the instrument at Notre Dame to have any hope of making a vaguely decent transcription of anything, let alone Cochereau. Most of what this Lara Poe person has notated 1) sounds nothing like what's played, 2) is highly un-idiomatic for the organ, and 3) would sound awful if played. It's a downright piece of junk. Sorry I'm genuinely quite angry about it - this transcription is an insult to the legendary improvisor, and an insult to Stephen Tharp.

    • @guscox9651
      @guscox9651 3 года назад +1

      @@cliveso Unfortunately, using DNA analysis, scientists have found that Marie Guérin was morbidly obese.

    • @laraepoe
      @laraepoe 3 года назад +9

      ​@@cliveso sorry to hear you feel this way. I would say that I do have a decent knowledge of the French tradition, although am not an organist myself (as you have said). As Gus has said, I tried to indicate things like "brighter" to give the performer freedom, as different organs have different registrations and I wanted this to be something people could play from. It's definitely possible that I may have missed some notes, as the acoustics and registrations can make it quite difficult to hear the final details at times. Are there any particular inaccuracies you're referring to? Cheers!

  • @richy77
    @richy77 3 года назад +3

    This actually sounds so great

  • @ianstafford2218
    @ianstafford2218 3 года назад +4

    My God! Mind blowing. Fine after Mass in a continental Cathedral. Imagine playing this in an English provincial Cathedral after Eucharist (if the assistant organist was capable!). He/She would be fired!

  • @originaltommy
    @originaltommy 3 года назад +3

    Brighter and brighter? Mon Dieu...

    • @joshuag.4873
      @joshuag.4873 2 года назад +1

      Loved the dynamic markings!!

  • @eremitaorgao
    @eremitaorgao 3 года назад +3

    Wow! how did I not know this piece before?

    • @georgemurphy2579
      @georgemurphy2579 Год назад +2

      No text - words - cannot be sung - not a song!
      A work, piece, composition - - - or - - - a compositional title
      Scherzo, Fete, Final. Toccata - - - take your pick - - -
      But, not a song.

  • @antoniboleslawowicz8095
    @antoniboleslawowicz8095 3 года назад +5

    Where can I get a copy of the score?

  • @jmdujardin
    @jmdujardin 3 года назад +5

    inimitable patte du Maître P. Cochereau : rythme endiablé staccato, traits de pédale basse enlevés, alternance des anches en batterie (chamades de NDdP qu'il affectionnait) et des fonds moelleux ...C'était tout lui, en improvisation de sortie de messe...

  • @richardlowe4751
    @richardlowe4751 2 года назад

    Why so many notes missing?

  • @georgemurphy2579
    @georgemurphy2579 Год назад +1

    The Fifth Opera in Wagner's "Ring."

  • @buspalladium1880
    @buspalladium1880 2 года назад +3

    Ca c'est de l'orgue. Seul le Maitre Cochereau savait faire sonner ce qui était un merveilleux instrument, avant qu'il ne soit saccagé par les "organistes" actuels...

    • @GuillaumeDeslandres
      @GuillaumeDeslandres Год назад

      L'existence même de tels commentaires ici en dit plus sur leur auteur que sur ses victimes.

    • @МиоМой
      @МиоМой Год назад +2

      Noch Pierre Pinsmail. Aber Cocherau ist, natürlich, besser!

    • @buspalladium1880
      @buspalladium1880 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@GuillaumeDeslandresÉtant organiste moi même, je sais de quoi je parle. J'ai joué à plusieurs reprises à Notre Dame. J'ai connu le Maître, et je connais les actuels. Autant mettre le soleil à côté d'une motte de terre.

    • @buspalladium1880
      @buspalladium1880 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@МиоМойJe l'ai très bien connu. Un autre génie !

    • @GuillaumeDeslandres
      @GuillaumeDeslandres 8 месяцев назад

      @@buspalladium1880 Ne changez rien, ce serait dommage.

  • @benoitducene466
    @benoitducene466 2 года назад +8

    a rather inaccurate score... which only shows why these improvisations must remain an instant of creative genius, not recreated. Cochereau would have been furious!

    • @benoitducene466
      @benoitducene466 2 года назад +5

      @@chronochromie772 Well, there are far more notes than are written, for a start! But, having played several Cochereau improvisations from transcribed scores over the years, it is always artistically superior to enjoy Cochereau playing them as they were intended, that is: "the spontaneous uttering of an illusory art".

    • @SuperRechercheur
      @SuperRechercheur 2 года назад +2

      @@benoitducene466 Ja, genau! C´est ca!

    • @joshuag.4873
      @joshuag.4873 2 года назад

      I assume this was just for fun. Still brilliant in any case.

  • @cliveso
    @cliveso 11 месяцев назад

    Here is a much more competent transcription. It's by no means perfect, but at least it is idiomatic and playable, and is actually played and recorded:
    ruclips.net/video/qk1A3KNzkBM/видео.html

  • @marcopol217
    @marcopol217 10 месяцев назад +1

    That´s music for the devil. Not for God.