1. This is clearly a joke 2. Sick combos, I need to revisit xrd to do trials now that my inputs are better, but props to you dude 3. Xrds combos are definitely more engaging. With more button presses and more freedom in what you press, even with xrd being one of my first fighting games, when a string came together it felt really nice, and not to mention it was easy to string together with galling. Air combos were also a lot more frequent and accessible. When someone pulls off a combo in xrd you know they were practicing for a hell of a long time In strive combos are shorter, and still can be engaging but if you start off with the wrong buttons you can completely fuck over the rest of the combo in some cases and it shows I'm not an expert at either game, but even as a newbie, I can still appreciate xrds complex combos and prefer them over strive
Appreciate the comment, most people here take things literally, even tho the strive “combo” is obviously a mock. The tools in xrd are another thing that I miss when it transferred to strive. Ram in xrd is so much more cool and fun than in strive as an example.
Hard agree. Strive 1.10 was definitely a huge step in the right direction by opening up air gatlings for everyone, but it still needs a few more patches that add something to the mix. I’d love for any kind of 25% tension option personally.
Highly recommend Xrd, but I wish the netcode was better😭 Edit: LEEEEEEEEEEETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO also a lot of people are watching this video as of late. I should probably do a real explanation video or a part 2 follow up.
I think it's a bit unfair to have your only example of a strive combo being normal->special, and then doing dust combos and 100% meter combos for Xrd. I don't think that Strive combos hold up to Xrd combos in terms of length, this is just a not particularly fair comparison.
Beginning wasn’t meant to be serious mate, I thought 2HS into 236 P would obviously be seen as a joke considering that no one uses that combo route and it looks silly. I also just wanted to show off a few Xrd combos
@@BlandNoodles That's fair, just a bit overly hostile when you've got a thumbnail and a title that are just blatantly trying to drive a wedge between the games
I thought so too for a split second but yeah, it was obvious it was deliberately done as a joke/mock. It's basically shit talk but without hurting anyone in particular.
The damage being lower and theirs more engagement needed with combos makes Xrd so fun. Strive having huge damage and win conditions being easy made hit conversions and combos boring after a while. Thx for the video.
@@sonic-bb...im on the highest floor and probably could get Celestial if i put in the effort. Strive is undeniably one of the easiest fighting games out there. Every character has watered down easy conversions compared to previous games
Xrd is probably my favorite game of all time if not just my favorite fighting game, and even then I was still sad back in the day that characters were missing XX tools like Sidewinder or Lightning Strike or EX versions. Strive is too stripped down for me. I want my old PKSHS gatlings. I want Break. I want Grand Viper. I want my DI (Heavy Mob Cemetary is rad but is no replacement for DI Tyrant Rave).
How does that even work tho? I only got into Guilty Gear through strive, and I'm genuinely curious: What even was the difference between Xrd, Xrd Revelator, Xrd Re Revelator, Xrd Sign and all those other ones?
@@Hi-Im-Gib xrd sing was the original, then came xrd revelator, it was a semi sequel but with extremely similar gameplay, then came revelator 2 and all those things, those were "title updates", think of it as dlc that made the game have a bunch of new features, not a new game, but paying for a major update
Strive's combos feel way more fun to me. I like that when I hit someone, it feels like I'm actually doing damage thanks the the game not scaling everything to bits. Sure Xrd combos are longer and undeniably cooler looking, but seeing potemkin spend a bar to get like a cm of extra health off is kinda sad.
I disagree. I think it's balanced and leads to longer, more fulfilling matches. It's upsetting for a non-meter input to destroy my health, especially when pot buster in strive can kill in two successful hits, which any half-decent potemkin player will land.
I'm not a fan of the Strive hate because it's a damn good game but I still prefer Xrd/Ac+R for its lighter gravity and conversion routes. The lighter gravity is so freeing and fun compared to fighting in a 100x gravity chamber. Characters in general also had longer movesets to choose from which is more engaging for me personally. I can do without super longer combos but I want Strive's roster to get more routes to convert off hits and to bring back, or add, new specials for most characters.
Completely valid point, I just like how the combos work in this game and how there are a lot more tools in xrd than in strive. Seeing the sick ram combo at the end of the video and comparing to the boring BnB wall carry that we see in strive isn’t comparable.
I have no problem with Strive's accessibility but I do think they shouldn't have made it grounded. Guilty Hear is an anime fighter, and that means air combos, air dashes, and etc.
I'd even say GG X Accent Core Plus R is even more fun when it came to the combos, but I'm just being bias since that's the last one I played and was heavily into. I have Xrd on PS3 but only been in practice mode with Chipp; will probably end up copping it on Steam. I haven't touched Strive but I'm not too hyped about playing it tbh.
Oh fuck, I guess they can’t be compared at all then. Wrap it up bois, we haters just gotta go fuckin commit sudoku I guess. Homeboy found out that stating the obvious deflects criticism and comparison of a game from its direct predecessor.
@@malikoniousjoe you can compare all you like, that’s fine, but implying that one game is inferior to the other because it isn’t like what it’s not doesn’t make sense, and don’t come at me acting like i haven’t poured a ass ton of time into both of these games, I love them both and and hate seeing them compared for the soul purpose of ragging on strive
@@aidanpupilis2979 I think the mistake is believing people rag on it for the sake of ragging on it. I’ve played Xrd since it dropped with Sign and have loved it to pieces. When the first Strive trailer released I was so hyped laying in bed that I stayed up with it on loop all night and damn near missed work. It looked and sounded incredible and I spent the year or so leading up to release on the edge of my seat. Unfortunately hype leads to dissapointment, high expectations can only lead to the unfortunate reality. With the experience and context of XX and Xrd, the game I had imagined Strive to be simply didn’t come to fruition and sadly those expectations cannot be set aside. The game is a direct sequel. The primary fanbase stems from older fans. When things change people are bound to be emotionally affected. I rag on Strive because it could have been more to me. It isn’t what I wanted, and doesn’t hold my affection as Xrd did. Strive has ass gameplay (imo obviously, milage may vary) but gets kick ass netcode and thus a thriving player base who do enjoy the game. Xrd hits all the right spots for me but has shite netcode and an empty online presence. I wish I could enjoy Strive but I can’t, and its existence both holds back the possibility of netcode improvements for Xrd, and kills any further additional Xrd content. I wish I could gush about it but I largely am left with complaints, and so I complain. The loudest detractors of most things are generally those who were at some point heavily invested and passionate.
I wish arc made a newer series instead of gutting older ones, xrd was already a simpler version of r+. It feels like every character is slayer with how the damage calculation works now and low execution characters feel braindead. At least UNI 2 is confirmed, hope they dont fuck up as bad
Have you tried any of the Strive combo trials with the maker? They are supre fun, and they can be unbelivably flashy. Theres less air combos but its sometimes more technical than xrd with TK dps on sol or frame perfect inputs with HC or jacko, or goldlewis crazy inputs. no dustloops tho sadly
Yeah, but you can’t tell me that the ram combos at the end don’t look cool. You’re right, some combos and tech are great, but xrd’s system is more fun in my opinion. You also have more moves/tools to work with just like how ram changed from Xrd to strive. But I agree that Goldlewis is really fun
Everyone knows that Xrd combo is flashier because the wall system does not exist. However I think you are selling short Strive here. The first one is not even a combo, it's just 1-2 hit confirm. At least do standard BnB. And then you can add RC for a bit more spice.
Not only that, from the transfer to strive, tools were removed from pretty much every character. Take the Ram combo at the end, it includes 2 back to back combination moves and a H and S sword set. This isn’t a video to objectively say which game is better. I just have more fun with a tighter combo system that uses more tools, jump cancels, and tight links that is Xrd. I still have fun with Strive, but I do have to say the Xrd system of combos is something else.
highly recommend bbcf if you enjoy xrd's combos, that game has some awesome stuff. Bang, Hazama, and Susano'o all have really cool combo structure, I mean most of the cast does but those three are my current favorites!
They kinda aren't tho. Strive combos feel precise and effective whilst in Rev 2 I feel like I'm desperately smacking my controller trying to hit confirm for any damage at all. Could be that I'm just bad.
@@BlandNoodles more mechanics != harder lmao, if you're really talking about harder, you should've mentioned +R instead of the dumbed down version of +R, which is Xrd.
@@rickyboiiiii its not about more mechanics. xrd is actually harder than strive not just cuz it has more mechanics. and yes plus r is even harder than xrd. its basically a downhill slope lol.
All of my hopium goes to the "big balance patch" that strive is gonna get, I hope for lowered damage and more bombos variety... Thought the game is still cool, xrd just got me shivering because of how scary powerful everyone else is!
Guilty Gear Xrd needs two things: 1) rollback netcode 2) the issues with strict NAT solved Other than that, it's the best Guilty Gear to ever come out.
I don't think it's unhealthy to simplify the game's mechanics when creating a new title, but I do think that Strive's characters have far less tools then their counterparts, and they also do wayyy too much damage. I think they should increase EVERYONE's health to decrease overall DPS and then give characters more tools overall.
I personally find that most of the tools that were removed between Xrd and Strive were moves that were fairly unnecessary. For example I don't se why so need to have riot stamp, but there are some which are lame like may losing dolphin set ups.
I don't know about stages, as superior as xrd is, strives stages are awesome, look at the flying buddha stage or the forest one, or the one that came with baiken. Also the one with the skulls
im pretty sure they said something about adding more stuff to strive in the future, i enjoy it for what it is rn though because i just dont have the mental or physical capacity to learn some of the ridiculous stuff that older gears have. maybe i'll get to it eventually
Yeah no. I don't want to get hit by an 11 hit combo while go and make and sandwich and I certainly don't want to do one. And I'm not even talking about the dozens of hours of grinding to learn it.
Totally. Xrd itself is more fun than strive. Even as a newbe in the series I can say it. And for some reason combo in xrd come out more consistently than in strive. #Rollback_Xrd_when?
Strive's issues are not combos they're intricate and take effort to pull off the issue is that you never really get a chance to flex those combos because people die of counter hit SO DANG QUICK
while i do agree that xrd's combo difficulty made them more satisfying to pull off, There's just something about removing your opponents hp to 10% that makes u feel like a god. And with all the defensive options the game gives you, it feels earned if they just eat it, unless you play may xD
It weird to be that you choose sol at the start didn't do any of his midscreen kara routes and choose leo, slayer, and baiken who all have strive style combos or more interesting ones in strive. I understand preferring one system over the other but the choice to use a shitty combo at the start and then use mostly unoptimal combo trials doesn't really push your point forward that well.
The Strive sol “Combo” in the beginning wasn’t supposed to be taken seriously mate. Also, the combos you mentioned have huge amounts of differences. Leo’s advanced 7 have true Gatling as you can go from P,K,S,c.S,Hs into specials. Slayers combos are all links, he doesn’t have any gatlings to my knowledge (besides moves going into themselves). And Baiken isn’t limited by wall splat and she could combo after a grab. I just wanted to have fun with this video and decided a more satirical presentation. Hope that clears things up👍
Baiken has way more corner combo variety in strive where in xrd its just dustloop into kuchinagi knockdown. Slayer has similar strive combos where his combos are special into normal then special. I'm not saying that there aren't nuances from xrd that are sick or well missed its just leading with an example that we aren't supposed to take seriously it begs the question why should we take your points seriously?
@@sargewha1 mate it’s just a video showing off Xrd combo trials that I like doing. I’m not pointing a gun at your head for you to agree with me. Don’t look into it so hard, I’m just having fun.
@@sargewha1 Bruh, he literally said it's meant to be a joke before again. If you can't take that then you're better off the internet for a while. People need to stop being butthurt over others making fun of their favourite game. There were a ton of memes about Xrd as well. This isn't a personal attack and meant to be taken literally so it's all right fam.
I get what you're trying to say and while i partially agree comparing advanced xrd combos with rcs and overdrives to a basic 2 hit combo in strive is kinda dumb, even if they are easier strive definitely has more advanced and cool looking stuff
The 2 hit combo was supposed to be a mock on how strive has a somewhat simpler mechanics. I enjoy Xrd combos because of the tools that are removed in Strive (I.e Ram in both games). Of course this is all subjective and all opinions are valid. I just like how Xrd works, but I still love and play more Strive in the end.
Came here because I thought it was a meme/joke. Stayed because the input gauge in the middle of the screen instead of bottom left or center was painful.
Plain and simple, combos in Xrd are way better and more expressive. It's not even a fair comparison between the 2 games: Strive = short combos with limited options and harder execution Xrd = longer and more creative combos with tons of options and easier execution Rather take more options with easier execution than the other way around.
Baiken's combo 10 is gangster af. Meterless 50% Azami midscreen punish that requires you to do Kire tatami,IAD mid combo and her dustloop in one combo. One of my proudest achievements.
Oh yes it's not even close. Tbh strive was the biggest disappointment of a game for me. I thought I was finally gonna get a gg game with good netcode while it still had a player base, but the game just can't keep me interested.
Man I wish the xrd player base was bigger, I’d love to play it more but online is basically dead and all the open player matches are an unbalanced mess between 10 year veterans and day 1 players. I still find strive’s neutral game more engaging than Xrd but I got to agree that those combos are sick. I also enjoy the complexity of some characters, accent core especially
I don't have these games, but I've been a lot of matches of both and to sum up, Strive combos are short and ends up with a wall break while in Rev2 and before, they were a lot more longer and funnier to watch.
So far, everything that I’ve seen from both titles have had their pros and their cons; but in the end I’m leaning more towards Rev 2, I just prefer the way the game is laid out and the art-style fits the gameplay better than Strive. I appreciate the upgraded graphics as expected, but it’s kind of jarring to me to have these photo-realistic backgrounds and shadows with Hand-drawn/cell-shaded characters. Some characters look better in strive and some look better in Rev2. The actual gameplay appears to be relatively the same based on my research, except with Rev2 having more freedom and depth while including difficulty which I appreciate since I’ve been looking for a challenge. All in all, there is no definitive answer; it depends on what you’re looking for. And I seem to have found just that, Can’t wait to pick this up soon.
ok where's the corner to corner hc and axl bomber loops in the beginning aside from that yes xrd is fucking awesome I hope it gets rollback because I don't think I'll ever play strive again if xrd gets rollback
@@BlandNoodles I sure hope so, I hear implementing rollback in Xrd is a bitch but I guess it depends on whoever is insane enough to go through with it and get asw's attention
Yeah I definitely see your point but Strive being more simple and easier for beginners definitely helped with it's success as it got a lot of people (me included) into fighting games since you didn't need to do a kick ass 40 button combo string to obliterate someone's will to live, you just have to play axl to do that in strive B)
Though I agree that Xrd's combo are more appealing (At least to me personally) then Strives it can't be understated that Strive's combo's are much more in depth then people give them credit. Strive has a bit more emphasis on neutral and is a bit more ground based then past games but that still doesn't mean it's anything lame or tame. Though you can pick certain characters like Ram or May or Pot and get relatively high up with very limited game/ combo knowledge you really won't get past rank 6 without starting to put in some work. Xrd also was in 2014 with it's last version Rev2 in 2017 while Strive is not even a year old as of writing this and hasn't even finished its season 1 pass. Strive's combo's are very much there and have plenty of routes to experiment with while the game adds new characters, patches and version updates. Y'just have to put in the time to find these routes and git gud enough to execute them with consistency and proficiency. I mean the average Sol combos I see personally even starting mid stage last about the same as an Xrd combo. It's really just different punish game now simply due to the wallbreak mechanic that you of course want to try and always get. In conclusion, wait for the meta to continue to develop and new characters get added in to the game. This is the first version of Strive after all, the game will probably change a lot as time passes just like before. Sincerely yours, Leo secondary
I love strive, but after playing a lot of Xrd, I wish that Strive didn’t take away so many tools/moves when transitioning. Xrd also has a bunch tech from jump cancels and also blitz, which just ends up making me like Xrd combos better. I still play more Strive as I’m better at that game, but I makes me want to get Sol’s break back or even Millia’s pin. I don’t really have an issue with the neutral or punish game, other than I wish there were more interactions before wining a round (but that is my preference). I look forward to the future of strive, even if I doesn’t suit my tastes completely. Still, your comment is way better formulated than 80% of the arguments in this comment section and present genuine points, so I thank you 👍 Sincerely thou, The Blandest of Noodles
@@BlandNoodles I must agree with you there which is why I am hoping future patches/ versions of Strive adds in more tech old and or new. And though jump cancel combos are still possible with characters it's not what it used to be. Besides Millia, Sol and Anji the amount of air to air combos tend to be very short lived especially without RC. And I couldn't agree more as far as moves go. Some characters get a good lineup of moves to work with like Sol, Ky, Leo, Zato and so on. But some characters definitely got shafted like Jack-O and Goldlewis. I understand Jack-O's moves being removed and changed to fit more of Strive's core play style but Baiken lost several moves for really no reason. Granted she did get Tether, Kabari follow up move, and a new parry. But she really only has 4-5 specials. 1 which being tether Kabari which isn't a neutral tool and only a combo tool for something like Counter 6H or using it on blocking opponents. And how they massacred Azami into Hiiragi is just painful. It takes a deep (If annoying) parry move into an occasional pop option to catch a sleeping aggressor trying to hit them on wakeup or block. Really sad she lost like half her specials and the replacements aren't really anything exciting. She really has 3 specials to work with and only Tatami and TK Youzansen is any good for combo starting in match. Her new Kenjyu super is great at least. And Goldlewis has 3 specials with very situational uses and supers that with mixed results. It's sad that more characters didn't get just more or at least 6-8 specials to really mix up combos and neutral more. It also sucks seeing some moves gone and really drastically change a characters placement (Cries in Greed Sever). Though Foudre Arc is objectively a better move Ky looses on a main combo tool from past games as well as an overhead option now having to rely on dust attacks which are highly telegraphed and grabs which can be easily snuffed out and countered. And the loss of Instant Kills, one of Guilty Gears mainstay mechanics now being omitted from Strive is just depressing. It also sucks seeing how Sol's iconic Dragon Install was turned into a easily avoidable command grab (Granted with high damage) and given honestly a pretty mediocre version to Ky. As a Ky main I still love having it but it's not NEARLY what Sol DI was. Ky's may last forever and greatly extends his combo game it's only available at 30% or lower HP and has a very unsafe startup on activation. You pretty much need to combo it into something for it to be viable at all or be fullscreen away and hope they can't hit you. When I think to Sol's DI I can only think of how Xrd treated it and how insane it was. Insane high damage combos for a short time with increased everything and changing the music as a cherry on top. It really felt that you were in for it on the other side. Hopefully Ky's DI will be reworked to better fit that feeling while still adhering to his game plan with it even if it's just a few simple changes. Finally, dustloop feels rather odd. Not gutted but definitely lacking. I understand the loss of the wall dust attack for Strive but the fact there's no regular air dustattack input like in past games really feels bad especially it could be used wherever whenever. I mean really how many people now in Strive compared to Xrd go for a dustattack outside of overhead blockings and wallbreak finishes like Gio. It's really sad that it's been sorta left aside for really any use in game and not used like before. To surmise, I agree. The lack of air to air combos for most characters is pretty disappointing and the tech and moves lost is pretty sad to see gone especially when you see how much it boosted Xrd's reputation and identity. I hope that a future version of Strive will add these mechanics back if not add new ones to give Strive it's own identity. Whichever one doesn't really matter to me, just as long as it happens. I'm excited to see what season 2 of Strive will bring to the table. Until then, I shall be breaking my hands trying to optimize Ky combos so I can get 3-0'd by Celestial Ram's in ranked play. Sincerely, and forever yours, Consort waiting for Vernon to join Strive
I adore xrd the combo system is soo fun and guilty gear in general has the best music imo but because xrd has the non rock ones (freesia, all I can do, ect) it makes it better I still adore strive's soundtrack but I am not a rock fan I only like guilty gear's rock cuzz it manages to mix rock with multiple music genres and styles
I own both actually I own both sign and rev2, but never played them until Strive. Strive is my game Gioi s my main and oddly it could help some folks new to anime fighters get into it.
rev 2 and fighterZ are there greatest achievements master pieces those together make the 2 best fighting games for me so much FUN! i think they make a great pair, you have to have those on your hard drive....lets be honest they're not adding rollback to rev2 as that would be strives funeral
Imho the only thing Xrd has over Strive is the length of combos. Hits are crunchier in Strive and there are some really OD things you can do like RCing a move that moves you forward so you can ride the momentum and go really far to do combos you couldn't before. Combo size/length isn't everything.
everything in rev 2 is better, strive doesn't have a soul, just the same characters, come on, there's no destroyer to finish, there's no combo, there's nothing, everything is simple and boring
1. This is clearly a joke
2. Sick combos, I need to revisit xrd to do trials now that my inputs are better, but props to you dude
3. Xrds combos are definitely more engaging. With more button presses and more freedom in what you press, even with xrd being one of my first fighting games, when a string came together it felt really nice, and not to mention it was easy to string together with galling. Air combos were also a lot more frequent and accessible. When someone pulls off a combo in xrd you know they were practicing for a hell of a long time
In strive combos are shorter, and still can be engaging but if you start off with the wrong buttons you can completely fuck over the rest of the combo in some cases and it shows
I'm not an expert at either game, but even as a newbie, I can still appreciate xrds complex combos and prefer them over strive
Appreciate the comment, most people here take things literally, even tho the strive “combo” is obviously a mock. The tools in xrd are another thing that I miss when it transferred to strive. Ram in xrd is so much more cool and fun than in strive as an example.
I don't think strive overall has a bad combo. The combos are pretty cool but it's more about the hp. It goes down so fast man.
I think it's more simplifying and toning down of characters that makes the combos less crazy. In some cases, older GGs did more dmg.
*cries in jack-o*
@@lavadragon6444 its not simple. Its primitive.
Xrd is to Strive what melee is to brawl
@@MiguelBDmore like ultímate since brawl was so slow and guilty gear will never slow down
Hard agree. Strive 1.10 was definitely a huge step in the right direction by opening up air gatlings for everyone, but it still needs a few more patches that add something to the mix. I’d love for any kind of 25% tension option personally.
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@@malikoniousjoe either that or they can make start up PRC only cost 25%. Hell why not give us both
I pray for gatlings, good airdashes and FRC for 25% tension
Something for the normal attack
Strive will never be xrd, better just play xrd
Highly recommend Xrd, but I wish the netcode was better😭
Edit: LEEEEEEEEEEETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
also a lot of people are watching this video as of late. I should probably do a real explanation video or a part 2 follow up.
and thats why i play strive
Hey what’s the song playing during the combo trials?
@@mrsteak3224 Big Blast Sonic
@@theanimenaut thx
PRACH BROTHER, ACTUAL COMBOS, None of that "accessibility" BS.
strive players can handle absolutely 0 banter
I think it's a bit unfair to have your only example of a strive combo being normal->special, and then doing dust combos and 100% meter combos for Xrd. I don't think that Strive combos hold up to Xrd combos in terms of length, this is just a not particularly fair comparison.
Beginning wasn’t meant to be serious mate, I thought 2HS into 236 P would obviously be seen as a joke considering that no one uses that combo route and it looks silly. I also just wanted to show off a few Xrd combos
@@BlandNoodles That's fair, just a bit overly hostile when you've got a thumbnail and a title that are just blatantly trying to drive a wedge between the games
@@emeraldmann1329 not my intention, but I’ll keep that in mind bro👍
I thought so too for a split second but yeah, it was obvious it was deliberately done as a joke/mock. It's basically shit talk but without hurting anyone in particular.
@@areks4397 rest of the comments don’t think so😢
I really hope they open up more combo routes for characters universally so that the game can have longer and more flashy combos.
if the comos in strive will be longer - it will be ToD
I hope so too, they just have to scale the damage down also
@@ЙирюВонаирда they just have to nerf damage or buff guts
@@zacharyjennings7675 scaling nerf will destroy the utility of long combos
@@tabkg5802 which they wont do cos they say HIGH DAMAGE OUTPUT WAS INTENTIONAL. Jeez.
I still do the input for knockdown after every volcanic viper
The damage being lower and theirs more engagement needed with combos makes Xrd so fun. Strive having huge damage and win conditions being easy made hit conversions and combos boring after a while. Thx for the video.
try play not sol or ky and u see that conversions is not easy to make actually.
@@ЙирюВонаирда they are very easy,
@@emptyjumplowas you say while prob in 2nd floor
@@sonic-bb...im on the highest floor and probably could get Celestial if i put in the effort. Strive is undeniably one of the easiest fighting games out there. Every character has watered down easy conversions compared to previous games
Xrd is probably my favorite game of all time if not just my favorite fighting game, and even then I was still sad back in the day that characters were missing XX tools like Sidewinder or Lightning Strike or EX versions. Strive is too stripped down for me. I want my old PKSHS gatlings. I want Break. I want Grand Viper. I want my DI (Heavy Mob Cemetary is rad but is no replacement for DI Tyrant Rave).
Xrd is a perfect in between of Strive and Plus R. Easier then Plus R but more challlenging then Strive
Love that smashers had to come in to say they like strive more. Great upload, very nostalgic
And you know they're smashers...how?
Never played Xrd before, kinda nuts seeing pot can combo into something from pot buster (without RC)
I really hope arc sys makes a rerelease of strive similar to strive+. Just give everyone wacky combos. I think that would be a lot of fun.
How does that even work tho?
I only got into Guilty Gear through strive, and I'm genuinely curious:
What even was the difference between Xrd, Xrd Revelator, Xrd Re Revelator, Xrd Sign and all those other ones?
@@Hi-Im-Gib xrd sing was the original, then came xrd revelator, it was a semi sequel but with extremely similar gameplay, then came revelator 2 and all those things, those were "title updates", think of it as dlc that made the game have a bunch of new features, not a new game, but paying for a major update
Strive's combos feel way more fun to me. I like that when I hit someone, it feels like I'm actually doing damage thanks the the game not scaling everything to bits. Sure Xrd combos are longer and undeniably cooler looking, but seeing potemkin spend a bar to get like a cm of extra health off is kinda sad.
I disagree. I think it's balanced and leads to longer, more fulfilling matches. It's upsetting for a non-meter input to destroy my health, especially when pot buster in strive can kill in two successful hits, which any half-decent potemkin player will land.
I'm not a fan of the Strive hate because it's a damn good game but I still prefer Xrd/Ac+R for its lighter gravity and conversion routes. The lighter gravity is so freeing and fun compared to fighting in a 100x gravity chamber. Characters in general also had longer movesets to choose from which is more engaging for me personally. I can do without super longer combos but I want Strive's roster to get more routes to convert off hits and to bring back, or add, new specials for most characters.
Completely valid point, I just like how the combos work in this game and how there are a lot more tools in xrd than in strive. Seeing the sick ram combo at the end of the video and comparing to the boring BnB wall carry that we see in strive isn’t comparable.
@@devilmaycry-3 buster kills in 3 because of guts, but at the end of the day, just don't get grabbed
Strive ram is stupid , As ram player since sign , i disagree strive ram is decent design.
Xrd ram is much complete even though she is kinda low tier.
What a cool video.
Thank you.
I too wish the game got good netcode.
I have no problem with Strive's accessibility but I do think they shouldn't have made it grounded. Guilty Hear is an anime fighter, and that means air combos, air dashes, and etc.
I'd even say GG X Accent Core Plus R is even more fun when it came to the combos, but I'm just being bias since that's the last one I played and was heavily into. I have Xrd on PS3 but only been in practice mode with Chipp; will probably end up copping it on Steam. I haven't touched Strive but I'm not too hyped about playing it tbh.
It turns out they are different games, who would’ve thought
Yeah we know, you were trying so hard there man
Oh fuck, I guess they can’t be compared at all then. Wrap it up bois, we haters just gotta go fuckin commit sudoku I guess. Homeboy found out that stating the obvious deflects criticism and comparison of a game from its direct predecessor.
@@malikoniousjoe you can compare all you like, that’s fine, but implying that one game is inferior to the other because it isn’t like what it’s not doesn’t make sense, and don’t come at me acting like i haven’t poured a ass ton of time into both of these games, I love them both and and hate seeing them compared for the soul purpose of ragging on strive
@@aidanpupilis2979 I think the mistake is believing people rag on it for the sake of ragging on it. I’ve played Xrd since it dropped with Sign and have loved it to pieces. When the first Strive trailer released I was so hyped laying in bed that I stayed up with it on loop all night and damn near missed work. It looked and sounded incredible and I spent the year or so leading up to release on the edge of my seat. Unfortunately hype leads to dissapointment, high expectations can only lead to the unfortunate reality. With the experience and context of XX and Xrd, the game I had imagined Strive to be simply didn’t come to fruition and sadly those expectations cannot be set aside. The game is a direct sequel. The primary fanbase stems from older fans. When things change people are bound to be emotionally affected.
I rag on Strive because it could have been more to me. It isn’t what I wanted, and doesn’t hold my affection as Xrd did. Strive has ass gameplay (imo obviously, milage may vary) but gets kick ass netcode and thus a thriving player base who do enjoy the game. Xrd hits all the right spots for me but has shite netcode and an empty online presence. I wish I could enjoy Strive but I can’t, and its existence both holds back the possibility of netcode improvements for Xrd, and kills any further additional Xrd content. I wish I could gush about it but I largely am left with complaints, and so I complain. The loudest detractors of most things are generally those who were at some point heavily invested and passionate.
@@malikoniousjoe i don't think it kills the possibility of xrd rollback.
Avarege Strive Combos he says, bruh I didnt see a single Potemkin Buster in here
Imagine a combo maker in a game that has less freedom of expression that the previous title smh .....that feature makes way more sense to be in xrd
Average strive combo fan vs average xrd dust loop enjoyer
I wish arc made a newer series instead of gutting older ones, xrd was already a simpler version of r+. It feels like every character is slayer with how the damage calculation works now and low execution characters feel braindead. At least UNI 2 is confirmed, hope they dont fuck up as bad
what do you think of uni 2, i love it
Have you tried any of the Strive combo trials with the maker? They are supre fun, and they can be unbelivably flashy. Theres less air combos but its sometimes more technical than xrd with TK dps on sol or frame perfect inputs with HC or jacko, or goldlewis crazy inputs.
no dustloops tho sadly
Yeah, but you can’t tell me that the ram combos at the end don’t look cool. You’re right, some combos and tech are great, but xrd’s system is more fun in my opinion. You also have more moves/tools to work with just like how ram changed from Xrd to strive. But I agree that Goldlewis is really fun
baiken kinda has dustloops in strive thx to j.D being jump and dash cancellable
@@cerdi_99 leo has dustloops too
Strive is cool and all but I'll always prefer xrd
Everyone knows that Xrd combo is flashier because the wall system does not exist. However I think you are selling short Strive here. The first one is not even a combo, it's just 1-2 hit confirm. At least do standard BnB. And then you can add RC for a bit more spice.
Not only that, from the transfer to strive, tools were removed from pretty much every character. Take the Ram combo at the end, it includes 2 back to back combination moves and a H and S sword set. This isn’t a video to objectively say which game is better. I just have more fun with a tighter combo system that uses more tools, jump cancels, and tight links that is Xrd. I still have fun with Strive, but I do have to say the Xrd system of combos is something else.
highly recommend bbcf if you enjoy xrd's combos, that game has some awesome stuff. Bang, Hazama, and Susano'o all have really cool combo structure, I mean most of the cast does but those three are my current favorites!
They kinda aren't tho. Strive combos feel precise and effective whilst in Rev 2 I feel like I'm desperately smacking my controller trying to hit confirm for any damage at all. Could be that I'm just bad.
It’s ok, Xrd is a lot harder game than strive and I button mash in both😭
@@BlandNoodles more mechanics != harder lmao, if you're really talking about harder, you should've mentioned +R instead of the dumbed down version of +R, which is Xrd.
@@rickyboiiiii its not about more mechanics. xrd is actually harder than strive not just cuz it has more mechanics. and yes plus r is even harder than xrd. its basically a downhill slope lol.
All of my hopium goes to the "big balance patch" that strive is gonna get, I hope for lowered damage and more bombos variety...
Thought the game is still cool, xrd just got me shivering because of how scary powerful everyone else is!
Those were way cooler than I would've thought
"What a trash combo, it didn't even wallbrea- oh right"
Guilty Gear Xrd needs two things:
1) rollback netcode
2) the issues with strict NAT solved
Other than that, it's the best Guilty Gear to ever come out.
I don't think it's unhealthy to simplify the game's mechanics when creating a new title, but I do think that Strive's characters have far less tools then their counterparts, and they also do wayyy too much damage. I think they should increase EVERYONE's health to decrease overall DPS and then give characters more tools overall.
Totally agree with you
May be like: "Oh you let me get a counter-hit? Let me take 85% off of your health bar"
I personally find that most of the tools that were removed between Xrd and Strive were moves that were fairly unnecessary. For example I don't se why so need to have riot stamp, but there are some which are lame like may losing dolphin set ups.
@@206lbs.hercules5 riot stamp helped give Sol strong conversions off of CH 6h and it was also just fun
Cooler combos, cooler music, cooler stages... Xrd was just cooler in general
I don’t know about the music but the combos were better
Xrd is actually the best GG
including AC+R ngl
@@civildefencer7336 least playable one online though
I don't know about stages, as superior as xrd is, strives stages are awesome, look at the flying buddha stage or the forest one, or the one that came with baiken. Also the one with the skulls
@@ratedr7845 Strive does also have good stages, that's true. I'll be honest though, I just prefer Xrd's.
Yeah i don't know what happened with strive, not only the gameplay mechanics but also, que art and character models
I hope Xrd gets rollback one day so we can stop pretending to like Strive
strive is good
Soon, my friend... Very soon...
Ask and you shallow recieve.
i love your name because that's what i eat nearly everyday ....subbed
im pretty sure they said something about adding more stuff to strive in the future, i enjoy it for what it is rn though because i just dont have the mental or physical capacity to learn some of the ridiculous stuff that older gears have. maybe i'll get to it eventually
Yeah no. I don't want to get hit by an 11 hit combo while go and make and sandwich and I certainly don't want to do one. And I'm not even talking about the dozens of hours of grinding to learn it.
Bitch there's 11 hit combos in strive, stop it lmao.
Totally. Xrd itself is more fun than strive. Even as a newbe in the series I can say it. And for some reason combo in xrd come out more consistently than in strive.
#Rollback_Xrd_when?
Strive's issues are not combos they're intricate and take effort to pull off the issue is that you never really get a chance to flex those combos because people die of counter hit SO DANG QUICK
Xrd in general is more fun than Strive, +R even more so
FUCKING BASED
Have you heard of GGAC+R
while i do agree that xrd's combo difficulty made them more satisfying to pull off, There's just something about removing your opponents hp to 10% that makes u feel like a god. And with all the defensive options the game gives you, it feels earned if they just eat it, unless you play may xD
Should of compared it with xrd:sign
It weird to be that you choose sol at the start didn't do any of his midscreen kara routes and choose leo, slayer, and baiken who all have strive style combos or more interesting ones in strive. I understand preferring one system over the other but the choice to use a shitty combo at the start and then use mostly unoptimal combo trials doesn't really push your point forward that well.
The Strive sol “Combo” in the beginning wasn’t supposed to be taken seriously mate. Also, the combos you mentioned have huge amounts of differences. Leo’s advanced 7 have true Gatling as you can go from P,K,S,c.S,Hs into specials. Slayers combos are all links, he doesn’t have any gatlings to my knowledge (besides moves going into themselves). And Baiken isn’t limited by wall splat and she could combo after a grab. I just wanted to have fun with this video and decided a more satirical presentation. Hope that clears things up👍
Baiken has way more corner combo variety in strive where in xrd its just dustloop into kuchinagi knockdown. Slayer has similar strive combos where his combos are special into normal then special. I'm not saying that there aren't nuances from xrd that are sick or well missed its just leading with an example that we aren't supposed to take seriously it begs the question why should we take your points seriously?
@@sargewha1 mate it’s just a video showing off Xrd combo trials that I like doing. I’m not pointing a gun at your head for you to agree with me. Don’t look into it so hard, I’m just having fun.
@@BlandNoodles their acting like they gotta defend their game or something lmao 🤣
@@sargewha1 Bruh, he literally said it's meant to be a joke before again. If you can't take that then you're better off the internet for a while. People need to stop being butthurt over others making fun of their favourite game. There were a ton of memes about Xrd as well.
This isn't a personal attack and meant to be taken literally so it's all right fam.
More like Xrd actually has combos unlike STRIVE
I get what you're trying to say and while i partially agree comparing advanced xrd combos with rcs and overdrives to a basic 2 hit combo in strive is kinda dumb, even if they are easier strive definitely has more advanced and cool looking stuff
The 2 hit combo was supposed to be a mock on how strive has a somewhat simpler mechanics. I enjoy Xrd combos because of the tools that are removed in Strive (I.e Ram in both games). Of course this is all subjective and all opinions are valid. I just like how Xrd works, but I still love and play more Strive in the end.
i dont mind strive combos, buit the removal of xrd style air combos sadden me
Came here because I thought it was a meme/joke. Stayed because the input gauge in the middle of the screen instead of bottom left or center was painful.
Might have to give xrd a try, and learn slayer before he drops.
Any tips? never played xrd before.
Both xrd and strive is good game with their own vision
Guilty Gear used to be so cool...and then Strive happened.
What makes Xrd much better than Strive for me is it has the god damn swaggy ass JOHNNY
Plain and simple, combos in Xrd are way better and more expressive. It's not even a fair comparison between the 2 games:
Strive = short combos with limited options and harder execution
Xrd = longer and more creative combos with tons of options and easier execution
Rather take more options with easier execution than the other way around.
strive has harder execution? interesting. i have yet to buy the game but thats not really what i've been hearing. maybe happy chaos idk.
Baiken's combo 10 is gangster af. Meterless 50% Azami midscreen punish that requires you to do Kire tatami,IAD mid combo and her dustloop in one combo. One of my proudest achievements.
Tried it and haven’t been able to do it yet, still getting at it tho
@@BlandNoodles keep on trying. I did it on pad,took a couple of weeks to consistently do KIre Tatami in matches.
ruclips.net/video/g-pG_XZsU6A/видео.html&ab_channel=BlandNoodles
I did it
Oh yes it's not even close. Tbh strive was the biggest disappointment of a game for me. I thought I was finally gonna get a gg game with good netcode while it still had a player base, but the game just can't keep me interested.
While the combos are cool I do enjoy the shorter combos, they make it easier to learn new characters.
Also makes it less rewarding.
Man I wish the xrd player base was bigger, I’d love to play it more but online is basically dead and all the open player matches are an unbalanced mess between 10 year veterans and day 1 players. I still find strive’s neutral game more engaging than Xrd but I got to agree that those combos are sick. I also enjoy the complexity of some characters, accent core especially
people really don’t get that the first clip was satire.
You can link after pot buster in xrd?? I thought he only had that in xx holy shit
Amen.
Strive is not Guilty Gear.
Is Glamorous Garbage.
I don't have these games, but I've been a lot of matches of both and to sum up, Strive combos are short and ends up with a wall break while in Rev2 and before, they were a lot more longer and funnier to watch.
So far, everything that I’ve seen from both titles have had their pros and their cons; but in the end I’m leaning more towards Rev 2, I just prefer the way the game is laid out and the art-style fits the gameplay better than Strive. I appreciate the upgraded graphics as expected, but it’s kind of jarring to me to have these photo-realistic backgrounds and shadows with Hand-drawn/cell-shaded characters.
Some characters look better in strive and some look better in Rev2. The actual gameplay appears to be relatively the same based on my research, except with Rev2 having more freedom and depth while including difficulty which I appreciate since I’ve been looking for a challenge.
All in all, there is no definitive answer; it depends on what you’re looking for. And I seem to have found just that, Can’t wait to pick this up soon.
ok where's the corner to corner hc and axl bomber loops in the beginning
aside from that yes xrd is fucking awesome I hope it gets rollback because I don't think I'll ever play strive again if xrd gets rollback
If BBTAG, BBCF, AC+R, and P4AU can get rollback, it’s only a matter of time
@@BlandNoodles I sure hope so, I hear implementing rollback in Xrd is a bitch but I guess it depends on whoever is insane enough to go through with it and get asw's attention
@@flayncele dbz rollback has been confirmed dude. its no longer impossible. in fact probably arc sys next project
strive was changed to me more welcoming to new players. And bro.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ABA COMBOS!?
This video is 2 years old ,and also aba combos are shit compared to any older gg combo .
Are these combos even do able on controllers 😭
Not for me at least
@@dj_koen1265 I swear
Strive is just babies guilty gear or diet cola xrd
amen
No just in combos, strIVe also fails in details like the style, and they quit the "destroyed"
Now do a Strive combo video please
Strive is a version strett figther 5 of guilty gear. No shit damage fron strive
Yeah I definitely see your point but Strive being more simple and easier for beginners definitely helped with it's success as it got a lot of people (me included) into fighting games since you didn't need to do a kick ass 40 button combo string to obliterate someone's will to live, you just have to play axl to do that in strive B)
the good and reliable xrd
Xrd is more fun than strive
The combos are about the same to me
Yea maybe the combos are fun but I love being able to easily switch between characters because combos are pretty universal
Fat L
Though I agree that Xrd's combo are more appealing (At least to me personally) then Strives it can't be understated that Strive's combo's are much more in depth then people give them credit. Strive has a bit more emphasis on neutral and is a bit more ground based then past games but that still doesn't mean it's anything lame or tame. Though you can pick certain characters like Ram or May or Pot and get relatively high up with very limited game/ combo knowledge you really won't get past rank 6 without starting to put in some work. Xrd also was in 2014 with it's last version Rev2 in 2017 while Strive is not even a year old as of writing this and hasn't even finished its season 1 pass.
Strive's combo's are very much there and have plenty of routes to experiment with while the game adds new characters, patches and version updates. Y'just have to put in the time to find these routes and git gud enough to execute them with consistency and proficiency. I mean the average Sol combos I see personally even starting mid stage last about the same as an Xrd combo. It's really just different punish game now simply due to the wallbreak mechanic that you of course want to try and always get.
In conclusion, wait for the meta to continue to develop and new characters get added in to the game. This is the first version of Strive after all, the game will probably change a lot as time passes just like before.
Sincerely yours,
Leo secondary
I love strive, but after playing a lot of Xrd, I wish that Strive didn’t take away so many tools/moves when transitioning. Xrd also has a bunch tech from jump cancels and also blitz, which just ends up making me like Xrd combos better. I still play more Strive as I’m better at that game, but I makes me want to get Sol’s break back or even Millia’s pin. I don’t really have an issue with the neutral or punish game, other than I wish there were more interactions before wining a round (but that is my preference). I look forward to the future of strive, even if I doesn’t suit my tastes completely. Still, your comment is way better formulated than 80% of the arguments in this comment section and present genuine points, so I thank you 👍
Sincerely thou,
The Blandest of Noodles
@@BlandNoodles I must agree with you there which is why I am hoping future patches/ versions of Strive adds in more tech old and or new. And though jump cancel combos are still possible with characters it's not what it used to be. Besides Millia, Sol and Anji the amount of air to air combos tend to be very short lived especially without RC.
And I couldn't agree more as far as moves go. Some characters get a good lineup of moves to work with like Sol, Ky, Leo, Zato and so on. But some characters definitely got shafted like Jack-O and Goldlewis. I understand Jack-O's moves being removed and changed to fit more of Strive's core play style but Baiken lost several moves for really no reason. Granted she did get Tether, Kabari follow up move, and a new parry. But she really only has 4-5 specials. 1 which being tether Kabari which isn't a neutral tool and only a combo tool for something like Counter 6H or using it on blocking opponents. And how they massacred Azami into Hiiragi is just painful. It takes a deep (If annoying) parry move into an occasional pop option to catch a sleeping aggressor trying to hit them on wakeup or block. Really sad she lost like half her specials and the replacements aren't really anything exciting. She really has 3 specials to work with and only Tatami and TK Youzansen is any good for combo starting in match. Her new Kenjyu super is great at least. And Goldlewis has 3 specials with very situational uses and supers that with mixed results. It's sad that more characters didn't get just more or at least 6-8 specials to really mix up combos and neutral more.
It also sucks seeing some moves gone and really drastically change a characters placement (Cries in Greed Sever). Though Foudre Arc is objectively a better move Ky looses on a main combo tool from past games as well as an overhead option now having to rely on dust attacks which are highly telegraphed and grabs which can be easily snuffed out and countered. And the loss of Instant Kills, one of Guilty Gears mainstay mechanics now being omitted from Strive is just depressing. It also sucks seeing how Sol's iconic Dragon Install was turned into a easily avoidable command grab (Granted with high damage) and given honestly a pretty mediocre version to Ky. As a Ky main I still love having it but it's not NEARLY what Sol DI was. Ky's may last forever and greatly extends his combo game it's only available at 30% or lower HP and has a very unsafe startup on activation. You pretty much need to combo it into something for it to be viable at all or be fullscreen away and hope they can't hit you. When I think to Sol's DI I can only think of how Xrd treated it and how insane it was. Insane high damage combos for a short time with increased everything and changing the music as a cherry on top. It really felt that you were in for it on the other side. Hopefully Ky's DI will be reworked to better fit that feeling while still adhering to his game plan with it even if it's just a few simple changes.
Finally, dustloop feels rather odd. Not gutted but definitely lacking. I understand the loss of the wall dust attack for Strive but the fact there's no regular air dustattack input like in past games really feels bad especially it could be used wherever whenever. I mean really how many people now in Strive compared to Xrd go for a dustattack outside of overhead blockings and wallbreak finishes like Gio. It's really sad that it's been sorta left aside for really any use in game and not used like before.
To surmise, I agree. The lack of air to air combos for most characters is pretty disappointing and the tech and moves lost is pretty sad to see gone especially when you see how much it boosted Xrd's reputation and identity. I hope that a future version of Strive will add these mechanics back if not add new ones to give Strive it's own identity. Whichever one doesn't really matter to me, just as long as it happens. I'm excited to see what season 2 of Strive will bring to the table. Until then, I shall be breaking my hands trying to optimize Ky combos so I can get 3-0'd by Celestial Ram's in ranked play.
Sincerely, and forever yours,
Consort waiting for Vernon to join Strive
I adore xrd the combo system is soo fun
and guilty gear in general has the best music imo but because xrd has the non rock ones
(freesia, all I can do, ect) it makes it better
I still adore strive's soundtrack but I am not a rock fan I only like guilty gear's rock cuzz it manages to mix rock with multiple music genres and styles
I like Baiken no matter where I go :)
I own both actually I own both sign and rev2, but never played them until Strive. Strive is my game Gioi s my main and oddly it could help some folks new to anime fighters get into it.
Music?
Big Blast Sonic- Guilty Gear Rev 2 Music
@@BlandNoodles thank you
Now roll back is in rev2👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿💯
Mfer started this video with a combo pot can pretty much do in strive
No Elphelt, damn
Amen !!!!!
For me, i'd say guilty gear acr combos are more fun because they are even longer 💀
It isnt really that fun because of xrd speed. It's much harder to discover a new combo during match so you just have to sit in training mode
And nicer skin for ky, free ultimate skin
Strive feels terrible to play. At least for me. Rev2 is just MMM! Though! ❤
+R combos are better than XRDs
i love this song :0
I just want matchmaking
rev 2 and fighterZ are there greatest achievements master pieces those together make the 2 best fighting games for me so much FUN! i think they make a great pair, you have to have those on your hard drive....lets be honest they're not adding rollback to rev2 as that would be strives funeral
Yeah but I’m too stupid to do any of that
Imho the only thing Xrd has over Strive is the length of combos. Hits are crunchier in Strive and there are some really OD things you can do like RCing a move that moves you forward so you can ride the momentum and go really far to do combos you couldn't before. Combo size/length isn't everything.
Also has more tools like break for sol and millias pin, I never said size matters😏
are you new to fighting games
everything in rev 2 is better, strive doesn't have a soul, just the same characters, come on, there's no destroyer to finish, there's no combo, there's nothing, everything is simple and boring
harder doesnt really mean more fun
I mean it’s expected that strive has less interesting combos than xrd