Have a 10 year old Herman Miller. Still solid as hell and never had a day of back pain despite spending 6-10 hours daily in it. You don't buy it for short term comfort. You buy it for long term benefits and posture. Worth every penny.
DId you get a Aeron?, how it was with the mest?, were you slipping with several materials of your pants? because you can definitely say that never slip.
@@j.m4a1 From Offerup app, but the person never posted it up-they had a mirra2 loaded in white and just mentioned that might not hold up for me and they were like... I have an embody for 500... I then asked a very important question... WHAT IS YOUR LOWEST PRICE POINT? ...they said 400 come pick it up or I'm posting it. Honestly was afraid it was busted or smelly but it's fine, it has some scratches i mostly wiped away on the side of the arms but other than that it's fine and it still has the warranty sticker-it's a chair from 2015.
Re: arm rest adjustment in and out... you pull up on the arm pads then position them in place. They're not supposed to move from horizontal force alone - although they can as you've discovered.
I have been sitting in an Aeron for years I cannot go back to another chair. I just purchased an Embody for my wife and so far she loves it. For something that you sit in 8-12 hours a day (especially during WFH), why not get the best if you can afford it. Notice how the slickdeals staff all get Herman Miller Chairs. Also, there the used market for these HM chairs is quite strong, so it isn't difficult to find used versions for 50%+ off retail.
I imagine having an ergonomist on staff helps with that. The reduction in injuries and the increased productivity of employees not in pain makes these chairs pay for themselves.
I have 4 nice office chairs my wife picked up for $10 each at thrift stores. 1. Herman Miller Aeron classic size c. 2. Humanscale Freedom. 3. Workprod Quantum 9000. 4. Unknown common heavy cushion model. Since I paid $10 each, my preference is Aeron, Quantum 9000, Freedom, Unknown. However, when considering retail price, it's Quantum 9000, unknown, Aeron, Freedom.
LOL! Right! C'mon, you don't even have a budget chair! You have a $1000 chair and don't want anyone telling you a $300 chair is better! You're TOO easy! LOL!
Funny, I bought so many office chairs off Slickdeals in the last 6 months. Started with the Staples Tarrence. Then a Staples Hyken. Then a Staples Dexley. Then a Staples Union and Scale. Then a WorkPro Quantum 12000. I'm finally sitting on a Herman Miller Embody which I ordered straight from HM. This chair is so much better than any previous chair I've tried it's not even funny. I would have paid 3,000 for the Embody if it were priced that high, and I say that as a dedicated Slickdealer. My back doesn't ache anymore like it did on the previous chairs. The Embody will pay me back multiple ways. I know that even 10 years down the line, I can sell it for at least $500. I mean, look at Aerons. $1000 new, and going used for $400 to 500 EASY. What's more important, however, is the fact that the Embody will likely keep me from having to go to doctors for back pain when I'm older. That's the biggest savings one can get.
A note to your comment, check the price, you can sell that after 10 years on 500, it cost less at least 200-300, is not a iPhone to still sale it at high price haha
yeah thats why im not thinking the embody is that expensive since im not going to waste my money on all that other staples and chinese garbage that together costs more than a herman miller. win for china lose for the world's oceans and landfills.
The seat on Embody hurt my thighs so much. I can feel the pixels dig into my thighs all the time. Unfortunately I have to return that. Lots of people on reddit have similar problem. To adjust the armrest on Embody correctly, you raise the armrest then move.
I had the workpro quantum for 9 years and used it constantly about 50 - 60 hours a week. about 5 years in, the base that controls it going up and down had gone out. I called customer service and they sent me a new part free. I would recommend it to anyone. I believe when i bought it, the original price was $400? but it went on sale for around $300? that was a long time ago though. I got rid of the chair because we moved and my wife wanted a cuter chair to go in our living area. Sigh. I would probably get the German miller except that i want a head rest, and i want to adjust the seat in and out. Yes. Yes. i know, you can buy a chair that should match your height, but I'm so picky and maybe someone else in my family wants to use it as well? so the lack of adjustment makes the herman miller a 'no' for me. I also have a feeling that my male compadres would prefer mesh over fabric since it tends to keep it cooler with the airflow.
Which company? I'm having a hard time figuring out which sub-company handles the workpro under the "eurowhatever" brand. I'm 10 years into mine and just need arm replacements for the foam.
Why are there so many dislikes? For me it was a really nice neutral review, obviously with personal opinions, but that makes it even better to understand the upsides and downsides
I think think the main problem people have with the video is that the chair was $200 when it was on sale but it's $400 now because of covid driving up prices.
I tried out the 9000 at office depot and immediate felt like it was comfortable. My only issue was that the arms were to high and im 5 9. So idk if i want to purchase it cause that might get annoying.
It's on sale right now for $278 if you're still looking for a chair - slickdeals.net/f/15226288-workpro-quantum-9000-series-ergonomic-mesh-high-back-chair-with-headrest-277-99
I own the workpro quantum 9000 with the headrest. It's a great chair. Lots of adjustments, the lean back is great for content consumption. You can increase the tension enough to keep you sitting in a very ergonomic position. The armrests are really comfortable and adjustable. Not sure why they think Office depot won't stand behind their chair? It comes with a limited lifetime warranty. Definitely worth a sit if you have the chance to try it out.
I mean I just think its a matter of data. Its very easy to find testimonies on forums for people who have screenshots and stories of Herman Miller warranty customer service. A lot less people even have an Office Depot nearby to know what the chair is lol, yet alone to take them on their warranty. I bought a Staples Hyken and got their added warranty for $20. A year and a half later needed to use the warranty since the chair broke some, and it was definitely not a process that was very clearly defined or well executed. I eventually got a Staples gift card for the price of the chair, but no warranty is to the level of HM who pay to pickup your chair at your house and send you a brand new a decade later lol
We have not, sorry. I believe that chair was released (or there was a model higher than this one) but all the deals we had seen on Slickdeals were for this model of chair so that's why we chose it.
After trying them both I prefer the quantum 9000 over the embody....but I prefer the Steelcase Gesture over both. Different strokes for different folks..
Guys I like the presentation and your personalities, but you were really wishy washy as to whether the HM Is worth the extra money. I didn't leave this video with a strong sense of which was the better value.
Sorry about that. Our overall choice was the WorkPro, but I personally spent the money and got the Logitech Embody from an outlet Herman Miller location for $800 because I have two bad discs in my lower back and have really loved it.
No, they are just two dumb asses talking with a couple of beers, it is not even close to a review. You need to test chairs and even after that, you need to use it for at least 3 months to see if it works for you or not. I have a Aeron and it does not work for me, great quality but does not work for me, slipper, feeling like a hammock.
I want to see you race the gaming aeron vs the Logitech embody! They are two of the most athletic chairs in the market. After all, they are GAMING chairs!
I have the Aeron, 1. Cons for my situation: Mesh, that means that because is a Herman Miller does not mean is actually the best for you, there is a psychological fact about that, that when you pay a high price means that it is what you need, that's not always right. The mesh model Aeron does not work for me after some years because it goes like hammock, it will goes down to struggle you into a point and not keeping you comfortable. I have a $60 USD chair from Costco that works really well against the Aeron, why, because it has a flat seat, more "solid" (one piece with memory foam) instead instead of seating on a hammock.
@@slickdeals you have to raise them to move them, not force them to move the way you did but others already told you. Plus, chair is to test in front of a desk, you don't need to have armrest way down if you are working on a desk, you are not watching a movie at work in front of your computer mainly lol
Soooo because I saved money to get something that is good for my health makes me rich? Didn't know... Also, I don't have the Embody but I am trying to decide between it and the Steelcase Gesture.
NO ONE needs a $1000 chair., Herman is the biggest rip off and gullible poeple fall for their marketing. Its the "Cool" factor that sells. A chair should be $400 at the most!
Reviews from owners of high-end chairs like the Embody and Aeron from Herman Miller and the Leap and Gesture from Steelcase all state that they feel as refreshed after a greater-than-10-hour session with those chairs as they felt before sitting in them. If that's not a testament to their supreme comfort (different from the comfort of a couch, sure, but comfort nonetheless), then I don't know what is.
@@joeking433You know how long Herman Miller and Steelcase have been around? A hundred years, give or take (edit: just checked again and they're both well over 100 years old). Longer than you've been alive. You think all their customers over the span of one hundred years were really just fooling themselves all that time? Come on. Reviewers, original owners, second, third, fourth hand buyers aren't to be trusted. Instead, I'm supposed to believe a guy who just heard about the existence of these chairs yesterday. Please buddy. The market for high end products generally are composed of more, not less critical, customers. More critical, more discerning and more demanding. I have no idea how you think the opposite is true. How long can a business based on scamming customers really last when it has to satisfy a market like that? Safe to say, not one hundred years.
@@GlassOnion23 It's a common understanding that the more you pay for something the more inclined you are to avoid wanting to realize anything negative about it, and the more inclined you are to convince yourself that it was worth the money. That's just a trait of human nature that any psychology professor will tell you about. And I'm not saying the expensive chairs aren't worth the money. I've just found that when I buy something expensive I expect a lot and am usually bummed out that they don't meet my expectations. Whereas if I don't pay much I don't expect much and are often pleasantly surprised how good the item is! I've done that with cars, phones, computers, guitars, furniture, etc. And if you look at Herman Miller furniture it makes me laugh how much they charge for some of their products! Have you looked at the prices of their tables, couches, etc? It's crazy expensive and there is no way it's worth the money unless you buy it for art or resale as a collectors piece! A lot of people have a lot of money these days and Herman Miller furniture appeals to them. So be it. But even if I have the money I still can't just blow it on "art". I just bought a WorkPro 9000 which got really good reviews but if I don't like it I might buy an Embody or Aeron. But I've bought too many premium products and in the end not been as thrilled with them as the cheaper things I buy because I expected so much from them.
@@joeking433 To be fair I think you are simply an uninformed shopper. Herman Miller couches are reasonably priced for high end furniture, you probably just don't know anything about furniture. After my current couches started falling apart, I started researching how couches are made. So I set out to buy a leather sectional that looks and feels like my current budget couch, but is designed to not fall apart. And its looking like that is going to cost me around 12-15 grand, which is about what a leather sectional from Herman Miller costs. Its not crazy expensive, you just don't understand why its expensive, so you probably assume ikea garbage is "just as good". Nobody is blowing money on "art." They are paying for higher build quality and more durable materials. Case in point, the type of leather HM uses on their couches, is not considered a fancy looking leather. It is however one of the most durable and wear resistant forms of leather. Obviously HM wants to design nice looking products, but their main goal is to build the most durable products possible. Thats why they will openly show things like abrasion testing for all their upholsteries. Good luck trying to get that kind of information out of low to mid range furniture manufacturers, they will never tell you. Because its all cheap garbage designed to fall apart. If you do buy an Aeron, you will quickly realize the thing is built like a tank and feels like it will last a lifetime. I bought and ultimately returned a workpro 12000 before buying an Aeron and that thing was a rickety piece of crap in comparison. I have no doubt the Aeron will be cheaper in the long run. I am a huge cheapskate, but one thing I have learned to never cheap out on over the years, is furniture. Or at least not furniture you plan to use on a daily basis. I think you may be projecting a bit because it sounds like you make a lot of uninformed purchases and/or are very susceptible to marketing. But the Aeron is the best selling chair in america, despite not being available at any major retailers and having virtually no marketing. It didn't achieve that status because there is a huge market for artistic office furniture. It achieved that status because there is a huge market for quality office furniture.
*If my employer wants to get me a Herman Miller chair - I say great. But to buy one myself? Nope. It's not about having a 20-year-old chair that still works well. It's about $1,100 that could've bought me a printer table and laptop extended warranty and other durable goods.*
Have a 10 year old Herman Miller. Still solid as hell and never had a day of back pain despite spending 6-10 hours daily in it. You don't buy it for short term comfort. You buy it for long term benefits and posture. Worth every penny.
which one? aeron?
@@vlastos Yup.
@@vlastos Still, don't buy it an used or refurbished one without testing it, Embody is a no brainer tho.
DId you get a Aeron?, how it was with the mest?, were you slipping with several materials of your pants? because you can definitely say that never slip.
I tried sitting on an Aeron at my friends house and it had a very solid blend of comfort and ergonomics
Is it really a 200 dollar chair when retail costs 400? I don't think so
puttin the slick in slickdeals since the aughts
is it really a 400 dollar chair if its always on sale
I got my Embody for 400...
@@MakinaDeMuerte what?!?!?! Where
@@j.m4a1 From Offerup app, but the person never posted it up-they had a mirra2 loaded in white and just mentioned that might not hold up for me and they were like... I have an embody for 500... I then asked a very important question... WHAT IS YOUR LOWEST PRICE POINT? ...they said 400 come pick it up or I'm posting it. Honestly was afraid it was busted or smelly but it's fine, it has some scratches i mostly wiped away on the side of the arms but other than that it's fine and it still has the warranty sticker-it's a chair from 2015.
Re: arm rest adjustment in and out... you pull up on the arm pads then position them in place. They're not supposed to move from horizontal force alone - although they can as you've discovered.
Agree! It is annoying to see all the review video of Embody online doing this wrong.
I have been sitting in an Aeron for years I cannot go back to another chair. I just purchased an Embody for my wife and so far she loves it. For something that you sit in 8-12 hours a day (especially during WFH), why not get the best if you can afford it. Notice how the slickdeals staff all get Herman Miller Chairs. Also, there the used market for these HM chairs is quite strong, so it isn't difficult to find used versions for 50%+ off retail.
I imagine having an ergonomist on staff helps with that. The reduction in injuries and the increased productivity of employees not in pain makes these chairs pay for themselves.
I have 4 nice office chairs my wife picked up for $10 each at thrift stores. 1. Herman Miller Aeron classic size c. 2. Humanscale Freedom. 3. Workprod Quantum 9000. 4. Unknown common heavy cushion model.
Since I paid $10 each, my preference is Aeron, Quantum 9000, Freedom, Unknown.
However, when considering retail price, it's Quantum 9000, unknown, Aeron, Freedom.
I own the budget chair. One of the arms snapped off while I was leaning on it. Don't recommend it.
LOL! Right! C'mon, you don't even have a budget chair! You have a $1000 chair and don't want anyone telling you a $300 chair is better! You're TOO easy! LOL!
Funny, I bought so many office chairs off Slickdeals in the last 6 months. Started with the Staples Tarrence. Then a Staples Hyken. Then a Staples Dexley. Then a Staples Union and Scale. Then a WorkPro Quantum 12000. I'm finally sitting on a Herman Miller Embody which I ordered straight from HM. This chair is so much better than any previous chair I've tried it's not even funny. I would have paid 3,000 for the Embody if it were priced that high, and I say that as a dedicated Slickdealer. My back doesn't ache anymore like it did on the previous chairs. The Embody will pay me back multiple ways. I know that even 10 years down the line, I can sell it for at least $500. I mean, look at Aerons. $1000 new, and going used for $400 to 500 EASY. What's more important, however, is the fact that the Embody will likely keep me from having to go to doctors for back pain when I'm older. That's the biggest savings one can get.
A note to your comment, check the price, you can sell that after 10 years on 500, it cost less at least 200-300, is not a iPhone to still sale it at high price haha
yeah thats why im not thinking the embody is that expensive since im not going to waste my money on all that other staples and chinese garbage that together costs more than a herman miller. win for china lose for the world's oceans and landfills.
That feeling when I got an Embody for the same price brand new (built in 2020) as that Quantum from office liquidators.
"I feel like it should be go lower than that" at 6:37 has me lol'ing (ergonomically) at my desk right now - great video!!
The seat on Embody hurt my thighs so much. I can feel the pixels dig into my thighs all the time. Unfortunately I have to return that. Lots of people on reddit have similar problem.
To adjust the armrest on Embody correctly, you raise the armrest then move.
Hmmm, I’ve never had that problem, maybe it might be because my chair is the gaming version
Was yours an updated one? They started adding an extra layer of foam in the seat on the non logitech embody recently.
Idk I have chubby thighs so I'm good
I had the workpro quantum for 9 years and used it constantly about 50 - 60 hours a week. about 5 years in, the base that controls it going up and down had gone out. I called customer service and they sent me a new part free. I would recommend it to anyone. I believe when i bought it, the original price was $400? but it went on sale for around $300? that was a long time ago though. I got rid of the chair because we moved and my wife wanted a cuter chair to go in our living area. Sigh. I would probably get the German miller except that i want a head rest, and i want to adjust the seat in and out. Yes. Yes. i know, you can buy a chair that should match your height, but I'm so picky and maybe someone else in my family wants to use it as well? so the lack of adjustment makes the herman miller a 'no' for me. I also have a feeling that my male compadres would prefer mesh over fabric since it tends to keep it cooler with the airflow.
I think it's hard for most people to justify paying $1500 for a chair when they can get something almost just as good for a fraction of the price.
@@slickdeals And what if you buy the $1500 chair and come to not like it a few months down the road?
Which company? I'm having a hard time figuring out which sub-company handles the workpro under the "eurowhatever" brand. I'm 10 years into mine and just need arm replacements for the foam.
why not compare with the Aeron which is much more similar!? (ok, I see why you did, but really it is not a great comparison due to lack of mesh)
Why are there so many dislikes? For me it was a really nice neutral review, obviously with personal opinions, but that makes it even better to understand the upsides and downsides
I think think the main problem people have with the video is that the chair was $200 when it was on sale but it's $400 now because of covid driving up prices.
Embody arm rest adjusts by simply lifting up and moving them out.....lol
Yeah, we just found that out haha.
@@slickdeals 😉😎🙌
I tried out the 9000 at office depot and immediate felt like it was comfortable. My only issue was that the arms were to high and im 5 9. So idk if i want to purchase it cause that might get annoying.
It's on sale right now for $278 if you're still looking for a chair - slickdeals.net/f/15226288-workpro-quantum-9000-series-ergonomic-mesh-high-back-chair-with-headrest-277-99
How is it for short people under 5 feet
I own the workpro quantum 9000 with the headrest. It's a great chair. Lots of adjustments, the lean back is great for content consumption. You can increase the tension enough to keep you sitting in a very ergonomic position. The armrests are really comfortable and adjustable. Not sure why they think Office depot won't stand behind their chair? It comes with a limited lifetime warranty. Definitely worth a sit if you have the chance to try it out.
I mean I just think its a matter of data. Its very easy to find testimonies on forums for people who have screenshots and stories of Herman Miller warranty customer service. A lot less people even have an Office Depot nearby to know what the chair is lol, yet alone to take them on their warranty.
I bought a Staples Hyken and got their added warranty for $20. A year and a half later needed to use the warranty since the chair broke some, and it was definitely not a process that was very clearly defined or well executed. I eventually got a Staples gift card for the price of the chair, but no warranty is to the level of HM who pay to pickup your chair at your house and send you a brand new a decade later lol
I know of others that said they liked the WorkPro 9000 better than their Aeron or Leap.
13:00 "Sometimes it's better not to know" lol I hear that
Did you do a review on Workpro 12000? The WP chairs have been upgraded since this video
We have not, sorry. I believe that chair was released (or there was a model higher than this one) but all the deals we had seen on Slickdeals were for this model of chair so that's why we chose it.
Very entertaining, you guys have great chemistry
Embody is hand made in USA with 10 years warranty. That's why it cost as much as it does.
12 years not 10 and they are not made in USA.
@@LouisChiaki made in Michigan
The workpro has a 10 year warranty if I’m not mistaken
@@LouisChiaki they are made in the USA? Michigan.
@@Noisa Most of the Herman Miller chairs are manufactured in China.
My brand new 9000 stuck in recline mode. Anyone know if I can get it out, or is something wrong?
After trying them both I prefer the quantum 9000 over the embody....but I prefer the Steelcase Gesture over both. Different strokes for different folks..
BS, I did try Embody and no way it's more comfortable than Aeron! And Herman Miller Cosm was the most comfortable chair I ever try.
Guys I like the presentation and your personalities, but you were really wishy washy as to whether the HM Is worth the extra money. I didn't leave this video with a strong sense of which was the better value.
Sorry about that. Our overall choice was the WorkPro, but I personally spent the money and got the Logitech Embody from an outlet Herman Miller location for $800 because I have two bad discs in my lower back and have really loved it.
@@slickdeals Gotcha thank you for the followup! Sorry to hear about your back :(
2 guys who have no idea about ergonomics is reviewing ergonomic chairs. Hmm, should I believe them?
They speak to the lay person in most of us
No, they are just two dumb asses talking with a couple of beers, it is not even close to a review. You need to test chairs and even after that, you need to use it for at least 3 months to see if it works for you or not. I have a Aeron and it does not work for me, great quality but does not work for me, slipper, feeling like a hammock.
Not comparing the 9000 to the Aaron is just stupid.
if you go to a licensed herman miller dealer you will save about 150-300$
I want to see you race the gaming aeron vs the Logitech embody! They are two of the most athletic chairs in the market. After all, they are GAMING chairs!
I have the Aeron, 1. Cons for my situation: Mesh, that means that because is a Herman Miller does not mean is actually the best for you, there is a psychological fact about that, that when you pay a high price means that it is what you need, that's not always right. The mesh model Aeron does not work for me after some years because it goes like hammock, it will goes down to struggle you into a point and not keeping you comfortable. I have a $60 USD chair from Costco that works really well against the Aeron, why, because it has a flat seat, more "solid" (one piece with memory foam) instead instead of seating on a hammock.
Top bants!
Have you guys tried the Work Pro 1000?
No we haven't - sorry.
Racing to test is the way to go (:
+1
I love my Dorman Chair lol
Good reviews but the vocal fry makes it almost unwatchable.
My favorite part was when they made out
I thought no1 cud get gayer than these 2 then theres u
My favourite part is when they are not.
Ok like this took way too long to explain.
they're not very professional is the more annoying part.
U just don’t like gays
If I'm paying $1,500 for a chair, it better clean my apt, do my laundry, and cook me food. No chair is worth that price.
Disagree but each can have their opinion. I personally have the Logitech Embody I purchased open box for $850 and it's done wonders for my back.
I had to stop watching, to much banter. I’m not sure if you ever got around to reviewing the Workpro chair.
Most recent deal - slickdeals.net/f/15226288-workpro-quantum-9000-series-ergonomic-mesh-high-back-chair-w-headrest-278-free-shipping
0:00 Introduction
1:43 Price Comparison
1:55 Seat Comfort
4:19 Armrests
7:00 Back Support
10:00 Overall Comfort
14:55 Warranty Support
15:55 Final Thoughts
16:24 Office Chair Race
Your use of the arm rest is all wrong lol
Please explain!!!
@@slickdeals you have to raise them to move them, not force them to move the way you did but others already told you.
Plus, chair is to test in front of a desk, you don't need to have armrest way down if you are working on a desk, you are not watching a movie at work in front of your computer mainly lol
Geez, a bit expensive? Wish reviews were from normal non-rich people. Must have a silver spoon life. Jealous.
Soooo because I saved money to get something that is good for my health makes me rich? Didn't know... Also, I don't have the Embody but I am trying to decide between it and the Steelcase Gesture.
NO ONE needs a $1000 chair., Herman is the biggest rip off and gullible poeple fall for their marketing. Its the "Cool" factor that sells. A chair should be $400 at the most!
subscribed for the aerodynamics test, y'all are thorough XD
If someone is gonna charge 1500 dollars for a chair, I feel like it should be both ergonomic and comfortable.
Reviews from owners of high-end chairs like the Embody and Aeron from Herman Miller and the Leap and Gesture from Steelcase all state that they feel as refreshed after a greater-than-10-hour session with those chairs as they felt before sitting in them. If that's not a testament to their supreme comfort (different from the comfort of a couch, sure, but comfort nonetheless), then I don't know what is.
@@GlassOnion23 If I paid $1500 for a chair I'd be telling you that it was comfy, too, LOL! Who would admit that they blew $1500???
@@joeking433You know how long Herman Miller and Steelcase have been around? A hundred years, give or take (edit: just checked again and they're both well over 100 years old). Longer than you've been alive. You think all their customers over the span of one hundred years were really just fooling themselves all that time? Come on. Reviewers, original owners, second, third, fourth hand buyers aren't to be trusted. Instead, I'm supposed to believe a guy who just heard about the existence of these chairs yesterday. Please buddy.
The market for high end products generally are composed of more, not less critical, customers. More critical, more discerning and more demanding. I have no idea how you think the opposite is true. How long can a business based on scamming customers really last when it has to satisfy a market like that? Safe to say, not one hundred years.
@@GlassOnion23 It's a common understanding that the more you pay for something the more inclined you are to avoid wanting to realize anything negative about it, and the more inclined you are to convince yourself that it was worth the money. That's just a trait of human nature that any psychology professor will tell you about.
And I'm not saying the expensive chairs aren't worth the money. I've just found that when I buy something expensive I expect a lot and am usually bummed out that they don't meet my expectations. Whereas if I don't pay much I don't expect much and are often pleasantly surprised how good the item is! I've done that with cars, phones, computers, guitars, furniture, etc.
And if you look at Herman Miller furniture it makes me laugh how much they charge for some of their products! Have you looked at the prices of their tables, couches, etc? It's crazy expensive and there is no way it's worth the money unless you buy it for art or resale as a collectors piece!
A lot of people have a lot of money these days and Herman Miller furniture appeals to them. So be it. But even if I have the money I still can't just blow it on "art".
I just bought a WorkPro 9000 which got really good reviews but if I don't like it I might buy an Embody or Aeron. But I've bought too many premium products and in the end not been as thrilled with them as the cheaper things I buy because I expected so much from them.
@@joeking433 To be fair I think you are simply an uninformed shopper. Herman Miller couches are reasonably priced for high end furniture, you probably just don't know anything about furniture. After my current couches started falling apart, I started researching how couches are made. So I set out to buy a leather sectional that looks and feels like my current budget couch, but is designed to not fall apart. And its looking like that is going to cost me around 12-15 grand, which is about what a leather sectional from Herman Miller costs. Its not crazy expensive, you just don't understand why its expensive, so you probably assume ikea garbage is "just as good".
Nobody is blowing money on "art." They are paying for higher build quality and more durable materials. Case in point, the type of leather HM uses on their couches, is not considered a fancy looking leather. It is however one of the most durable and wear resistant forms of leather. Obviously HM wants to design nice looking products, but their main goal is to build the most durable products possible. Thats why they will openly show things like abrasion testing for all their upholsteries. Good luck trying to get that kind of information out of low to mid range furniture manufacturers, they will never tell you. Because its all cheap garbage designed to fall apart.
If you do buy an Aeron, you will quickly realize the thing is built like a tank and feels like it will last a lifetime. I bought and ultimately returned a workpro 12000 before buying an Aeron and that thing was a rickety piece of crap in comparison. I have no doubt the Aeron will be cheaper in the long run. I am a huge cheapskate, but one thing I have learned to never cheap out on over the years, is furniture. Or at least not furniture you plan to use on a daily basis.
I think you may be projecting a bit because it sounds like you make a lot of uninformed purchases and/or are very susceptible to marketing. But the Aeron is the best selling chair in america, despite not being available at any major retailers and having virtually no marketing. It didn't achieve that status because there is a huge market for artistic office furniture. It achieved that status because there is a huge market for quality office furniture.
*If my employer wants to get me a Herman Miller chair - I say great. But to buy one myself? Nope. It's not about having a 20-year-old chair that still works well. It's about $1,100 that could've bought me a printer table and laptop extended warranty and other durable goods.*