20 year Chrysler engineer here, that left in 2008, then worked as a supplier to them from 2014-20. It was shocking at what I saw there from 2014-20. I instantly noticed that there were tons of new engineers at CTC right out of college, and very few between ~ 35-45, as if most of the lower/middle management team had been wiped out in the Fiat acquisition. The Supervisor of the 24 yr. old engineer I worked with, had 25 direct reports! IOW’s, these young engineers were tossed into the deep end and told to “sink or swim.” I, as a supplier, told my Director that this was a formula for expensive product disasters, recalls, and delayed product launches. I also directly observed the chaos and terrible job they were doing with developing software for new PHEV’s. Nothing of what is happening now is a surprise. They repeated the same mistake when they fired 400 Powertrain (mostly calibration) engineers several months ago, to replace their experience with “low cost country” labor. Sad to see what a disaster the French have made of the company I once loved. 😢
@@jslz74salazar18 The Pentastar 3.6l and ZF 8-speed is a very good powertrain. The Achilles heel of Stellantis products are power electronics & software. Has been since the 80’s, going back to Chrysler Motors. Always glitchy electronics. Experienced that with my ‘09 Challenger & ‘14 Durango.
people are wasting their time bothering to deal with stellantis! my family owns a chrysler dodge jeep ram dealership, you are wasting your time with them !
Brad the dark horses that are over 70k all have handling package. Unless you’re gonna track the vehicle it really makes no sense to have. The street versions are between 60-65.
I wanted a 2012 Cayenne S but Porsche wouldn’t deal. I had a gt3 at the time and I wanted a Cayenne with the V8. Told my buddy who worked at BMW and he showed me a X5M. Same horsepower as a Cayenne turbo S but at a Cayenne S price. Owned it for 11 years. AWESOME car. Wish I still had it. BMW is silly sometimes but they are not lame
The build quality to me seems to be verified by what I just saw at the Los Angeles County auto show. They had a Dodge Charger EV on display where you could get inside and check it out. To me the interior build quality did not feel solid. The control button panel below the display bowed when I pressed the selections. The plastic seemed really flexible and weak. The interior did not seem solid. It looked like they wanted to combine different textures inside the interior but the different components of different textures didn’t feel like it was one solid piece. This is just my opinion, but that’s how it felt to me. I did not ask them if this was a preproduction car or a production car.
I've mentioned this before, but I've had zero build quality problems with my 2019 Challenger. Stellantis/Tavares is fully responsible for the loss of quality the past few years, and I won't be buying any more CDJR vehicles. Thanks for nothing, Carlos.
You'd think with all the experience Tavares has with the automotive sector that he would have waited until the new model was ready before pulling the old models from production.
I still love the fact that they call it the 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona EV... It's almost December of 2024 and these things haven't hit lots yet. (Not that they will get bought when they do hit the lots)
We just had our first tungsten 1500 delivered that I ordered back in January and I wish I took pictures of it but it sold in like 3 days because it was literally one of the first ones on the ground, the headlights where not aligned with the body and there where gaps in the corners of them and the drivers side sun visor had 3 gashes in it and it’s so many new cars that are coming in with defects and the next one we get I’ll upload a few pics of it because it’s all the time these days with our cars
Brad I agree with everything when you're saying I hope that Dodge reverses this course which is looks like what they're doing but whatever they do if I end up getting one of their products again I'm definitely getting a 2026 Shelby mustang GT500
Until they stop sourcing all these parts from Brazil Morocco and all these other countries I don't care what you do the cars are not going to get any better
I believe most of us appreciate the effort you guys put in this information out! In 2018 I had to buy a Subaru outback.Do to medical reasons I could not afford would afford to replace my 03 Ram fifteen hundred. Right now i'm almost be afraid to buy Ram Dodge or Jeep product as much as I would love to. Seems like the CEO is trying to destroy the whole company by putting cheap products! 5 keep the videos and information coming please. I watch your videos t j's. And I forget the other gentleman that I just started watching that you mentioned.
Is that a Patek Philippe? I believe in your Darkhorse video that you just posted, you had a Rolex on? I'd be interested in a video of your timepieces on your second channel. You're a humble and down to earth guy that many of us can relate to.
I think you should keep your Swinger..for the investment wink, wink,....and get the M3 competition. You'll have your 6 speed and won't have to get rid of that beauty (it's my favorite special edition) and have something if the wife or daughter needs to borrow the BMW. You always have the Lambo, but the money lost if you got rid of the Challenger now may make it a better choice to keep it for now.
I’m also thinking about an M2 or M4. The S58 inline twin turbo has 473 HP in the M2 and 523 HP in the M4 RWD. Very reliable cars with great fit and finish. BMW paint jobs are the best. Interiors and seats are very nice. The M2 is in the Dark Horse price range. The M4 is about 20k more. Resale on the M’s is good unlike other mass produced BMW’s. The standard rubber on these cars is 285 20’s in the rear and 275 19’s in the front. Very good daily drivers and performance when you want it. I know they don’t have the V8 rumble but they have a decent sound with quad exhaust pipes. No need to put up with Stellantis and Ford quality.
I love your content! You're straight to the point, you tell it how you see it and you speak the truth no bs no sugar coatings ! I can tell you're a genuine good person like I'm willing to bet you left a real nice tip 👌 Keep up the good work!!
You probably already test drove one but I was extremely surprised when I test drove a new gen M3 comp. For an inline-6 it sounds great imo and It’s really an engaging drive, I enjoyed it a lot more than my Charger Redeye, granted I only had the hellcat for 2 months before selling it lol. If I had 100k to burn on 4 doors it would be an M3 hands down.
You here this and think how can this be anymore disastrous ? And you think how could this company have ever built anything that would have stayed out of the service department.
I feel sorry for the workers trying to do there job with the cheapest components Firing the engineers and out sourcing them made it worse Then trying to charge luxury car prices I would buy a Tesla before I would take a chance on there products There basically bankrupt and don’t want to admit it Getting away from cheap affordable vehicles to make there bread to sell the niche vehicles
Ford can’t come out with that 4 door mustang quick enough. I wish they’d call it something else but…honestly, now’s their chance to basically own that market.
The problem with Mustangs are they are so small, same with Camaro, it’s why I got Chargers or Challengers. It wouldn’t surprise me if you switched to BMW.
Hope you're doing the blue cheese olives every program we got cheaper and cheaper suppliers that I had never heard of or used before every part was run through purchasing in some insane way they wanted the same part as last year but 50% less How does a supplier stay in business like that I have many friends that work at suppliers they cannot stand doing work for stellantis and will do no quotes just to not deal with them as they know they will lose money. And heaven forbid A supplier ask for a financial adjustment they get the middle finger
@@aaaaaaab11 why? The m3 comp xdrive is better then current dodges in every way.. they also have insane tuning and mods that would make for great content
You're obviously a man of very much means what I call generational wealth. There's a bigger picture here. That of the disparity of income which has skyrocketed exponentially I love this channel but not this video so much.
The only reason I watch your videos is because you're a muscle head and I like your feedback. If you're not driving and talking about muscle cars that would be a shame. Not interested in you talking about a foreign race cars that we don't drive or like. good luck with that. Sorry to see you go.
What they are not factoring in is who is running the world. Who is toyotomi of nipon. It's not that they can't build cars that last, it's they are not allowed to compete because that would go against the demons of japan. The reason certain brands particulary german and korea brands can go with their culture of going in for maintenance every 2-3 years by law. This isn't the case in japan or united states of babylon. Everyone is just being fooled thinking they have a choice but really the choice is made for you ahead of time. What is B what is MW as above so below, what is merkava mercedes, What is satan toyotomi, what is manifestation hyundai, what is kiYaH, what is mazda zoroastrianism, what is the gate of H of honda, what is the X of chevy, what is ford? What is daimler chrysler conciousness, what is what is what is? Or stay asleep and continue being a slave to their system. They are all holding hands trying their damndest to keep you enslaved.
Who’s buying those blenders 😂😂😂. I think stellantis’s collapse is imminent in the first Quarter of 2025 then GM finishing with ford , But trump will bail them out .
20 year Chrysler engineer here, that left in 2008, then worked as a supplier to them from 2014-20. It was shocking at what I saw there from 2014-20. I instantly noticed that there were tons of new engineers at CTC right out of college, and very few between ~ 35-45, as if most of the lower/middle management team had been wiped out in the Fiat acquisition. The Supervisor of the 24 yr. old engineer I worked with, had 25 direct reports! IOW’s, these young engineers were tossed into the deep end and told to “sink or swim.” I, as a supplier, told my Director that this was a formula for expensive product disasters, recalls, and delayed product launches. I also directly observed the chaos and terrible job they were doing with developing software for new PHEV’s. Nothing of what is happening now is a surprise. They repeated the same mistake when they fired 400 Powertrain (mostly calibration) engineers several months ago, to replace their experience with “low cost country” labor. Sad to see what a disaster the French have made of the company I once loved. 😢
This cant be good for any Stellantis products.
Greetings. So stay away from 2024 Willy's ??? V6 8 speed?
@jslz74salazar18 Have a '21 V6/8 speed no issues at all. Proven and good choice
@@TSi99999 Aww. Thanks a bunch
@@jslz74salazar18 The Pentastar 3.6l and ZF 8-speed is a very good powertrain. The Achilles heel of Stellantis products are power electronics & software. Has been since the 80’s, going back to Chrysler Motors. Always glitchy electronics. Experienced that with my ‘09 Challenger & ‘14 Durango.
It could be worse...you could be a Jaguar fan!
@@DavidS94938 was wondering why being a jaguar fan is bad then i watched their new ad 😭
I cannot believe how totally and completely they have ruined this company
Gotta love it.
The one thing Stellantis can't get the Chargers to do is charge.
Charger not Charging!
people are wasting their time bothering to deal with stellantis! my family owns a chrysler dodge jeep ram dealership, you are wasting your time with them !
I can't get past the stupid looking square gauge screen. On any car. Just my opinion.
Yup , nothing says lazy designers like slapping a iPad into the middle of your dash. So sad
Brad the dark horses that are over 70k all have handling package. Unless you’re gonna track the vehicle it really makes no sense to have. The street versions are between 60-65.
BMW = lame
I wanted a 2012 Cayenne S but Porsche wouldn’t deal. I had a gt3 at the time and I wanted a Cayenne with the V8. Told my buddy who worked at BMW and he showed me a X5M. Same horsepower as a Cayenne turbo S but at a Cayenne S price. Owned it for 11 years. AWESOME car. Wish I still had it. BMW is silly sometimes but they are not lame
@@jimsteinway695BMW suck if you don’t have a warranty period.
What happened to the Cadillac CT5V BLACKWING??
I am going to check one out soon 👍👍
The build quality to me seems to be verified by what I just saw at the Los Angeles County auto show. They had a Dodge Charger EV on display where you could get inside and check it out. To me the interior build quality did not feel solid. The control button panel below the display bowed when I pressed the selections. The plastic seemed really flexible and weak. The interior did not seem solid. It looked like they wanted to combine different textures inside the interior but the different components of different textures didn’t feel like it was one solid piece. This is just my opinion, but that’s how it felt to me. I did not ask them if this was a preproduction car or a production car.
I've mentioned this before, but I've had zero build quality problems with my 2019 Challenger. Stellantis/Tavares is fully responsible for the loss of quality the past few years, and I won't be buying any more CDJR vehicles. Thanks for nothing, Carlos.
@@rparret same my 2018 charger has been a amazing car
Trump’s tariffs are going to hit Stellantis hard. He just announced that he’s going to hit Canada and Mexico with tariffs.
Sad to read.
You'd think with all the experience Tavares has with the automotive sector that he would have waited until the new model was ready before pulling the old models from production.
If you want that Dark Horse, buy it. It’ll definitely be awesome
I still love the fact that they call it the 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona EV... It's almost December of 2024 and these things haven't hit lots yet. (Not that they will get bought when they do hit the lots)
so you're telling me to stay with my V8 Durango? Hell ya! No way im going EV! Mopar baby!!
Love driving my Durango smooth operator
i wonder what a supercharger on a inline six would look like
Google e46 m3 supercharged
We just had our first tungsten 1500 delivered that I ordered back in January and I wish I took pictures of it but it sold in like 3 days because it was literally one of the first ones on the ground, the headlights where not aligned with the body and there where gaps in the corners of them and the drivers side sun visor had 3 gashes in it and it’s so many new cars that are coming in with defects and the next one we get I’ll upload a few pics of it because it’s all the time these days with our cars
Mopar or No Car! You should buy the 2025 Hellcat Durango for the family to drive
Brad I agree with everything when you're saying I hope that Dodge reverses this course which is looks like what they're doing but whatever they do if I end up getting one of their products again I'm definitely getting a 2026 Shelby mustang GT500
Until they stop sourcing all these parts from Brazil Morocco and all these other countries I don't care what you do the cars are not going to get any better
And hope u get the DarkHorse Mustang
Idea for a channel. MuscleMotivator- Challenger, Mustang and Camaro. No BMW.
Ummmmmm were those pics taken at a staging lot, in the cesspool known as Windsor Ontario?
Watch flex is off the charts…
Don't feed the bread to water birds. It's unhealthy for them.
I hope you looked up the real horsepower on it because that guy didn’t know what he was talking about..lol😂
I look at our pfs system Mines was built two weeks ago and says sitting in storage🤦🏾♂️
The end of Dodge is very near.😢
Gen 1 dodge vipers didn’t even have air bags, or traction control. Or good rubber. Or windows, or door locks. Or a roof. Still my dream car
Rocking a Patek Philippe 5711?
There are issues prett much with anything built today
@@michaelcoonce6694 Just another affect of the plandemic.
Your making my mouth water looking at those sliders. Bad boy
Do I see a Patek Philippe nautilus!? 👀 Nice
I believe most of us appreciate the effort you guys put in this information out! In 2018 I had to buy a Subaru outback.Do to medical reasons I could not afford would afford to replace my 03 Ram fifteen hundred. Right now i'm almost be afraid to buy Ram Dodge or Jeep product
as much as I would love to. Seems like the CEO is trying to destroy the whole company by putting cheap products! 5 keep the videos and information coming please. I watch your videos t j's.
And I forget the other gentleman that I just started watching that you mentioned.
Keep the Subie, brother. Better car than Stellantis crap.
I’ve been with Brampton assembly for 34 years now and I’ve never seen a launch of any kind go this bad or take so long it is sad to see😢
Is that a Patek Philippe? I believe in your Darkhorse video that you just posted, you had a Rolex on? I'd be interested in a video of your timepieces on your second channel. You're a humble and down to earth guy that many of us can relate to.
That Dark Horse is at Tuttle-Click Capistrano Ford... 😂
I think you should keep your Swinger..for the investment wink, wink,....and get the M3 competition. You'll have your 6 speed and won't have to get rid of that beauty (it's my favorite special edition) and have something if the wife or daughter needs to borrow the BMW. You always have the Lambo, but the money lost if you got rid of the Challenger now may make it a better choice to keep it for now.
I do the same, a man needs solitude now and then for sanity ...
I’m also thinking about an M2 or M4. The S58 inline twin turbo has 473 HP in the M2 and 523 HP in the M4 RWD. Very reliable cars with great fit and finish. BMW paint jobs are the best. Interiors and seats are very nice. The M2 is in the Dark Horse price range. The M4 is about 20k more. Resale on the M’s is good unlike other mass produced BMW’s. The standard rubber on these cars is 285 20’s in the rear and 275 19’s in the front. Very good daily drivers and performance when you want it. I know they don’t have the V8 rumble but they have a decent sound with quad exhaust pipes. No need to put up with Stellantis and Ford quality.
OC, just go buy another HELLCAT!!
TJ Hunt bought a brand new dark horse. Drove it 30 miles motor not even broken in yet. Got a new motor per Ford.
Tj hunt didn't purchase a dark horse mustang.
Blew the motor?
BMW= BROKE MOST WEEKENDS. Total junk! Take it from a tow truck driver!
I owned a lot of BMW’s and if you don’t have a factory warranty, do not buy a BMW
Carlos completely screwed up when he got rid of experienced engineers, and out sourced the engineering out of the country.
Get a lift for your garage. I put the wife's Camaro on top and my 69 Chevelle under. Then the wife's daily driver is on the other side
As long as you have a factory warranty BMW is the one. But always sell a BMW before the warranty runs out.
I love your content!
You're straight to the point, you tell it how you see it and you speak the truth no bs no sugar coatings !
I can tell you're a genuine good person like I'm willing to bet you left a real nice tip 👌
Keep up the good work!!
OC got Trump money. 😂😂😂
You probably already test drove one but I was extremely surprised when I test drove a new gen M3 comp. For an inline-6 it sounds great imo and It’s really an engaging drive, I enjoyed it a lot more than my Charger Redeye, granted I only had the hellcat for 2 months before selling it lol.
If I had 100k to burn on 4 doors it would be an M3 hands down.
You here this and think how can this be anymore disastrous ? And you think how could this company have ever built anything that would have stayed out of the service department.
I feel sorry for the workers trying to do there job with the cheapest components Firing the engineers and out sourcing them made it worse Then trying to charge luxury car prices I would buy a Tesla before I would take a chance on there products
There basically bankrupt and don’t want to admit it Getting away from cheap affordable vehicles to make there bread to sell the niche vehicles
Ford can’t come out with that 4 door mustang quick enough. I wish they’d call it something else but…honestly, now’s their chance to basically own that market.
Cadillac BlackWing would make a good family sedan.
Thanks for all your videos, and I hope you and your family have an amazing holiday season!!!!
Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, Sir and I never slice! (Slices ball into woods) :D lol
Brad great video I got a solution for you the mustang four-door which is coming out the Mach 4 as it's being called and it is coming out
RTR MUSTANG GT
The problem with Mustangs are they are so small, same with Camaro, it’s why I got Chargers or Challengers.
It wouldn’t surprise me if you switched to BMW.
Get a trackhawk great family car
Porsche Panamera GTS or Turbo S!
Hope you're doing the blue cheese olives every program we got cheaper and cheaper suppliers that I had never heard of or used before every part was run through purchasing in some insane way they wanted the same part as last year but 50% less How does a supplier stay in business like that I have many friends that work at suppliers they cannot stand doing work for stellantis and will do no quotes just to not deal with them as they know they will lose money. And heaven forbid A supplier ask for a financial adjustment they get the middle finger
X 3 competition looks cool for family im not a beamer guy but looks cool and runs
Don't buy a BMW
@@aaaaaaab11 why? The m3 comp xdrive is better then current dodges in every way.. they also have insane tuning and mods that would make for great content
Just more European junk
Neighbor has 2. M3 and M4. Theyve been amazing and the M3 is making 700 wheel. @@PEACEOUTXX1
@@PEACEOUTXX1I’ve had reliability issues with bmw’s I’ve had in the past 🤷🏽♂️
Yea not like those quality dodges sitting on lots having tons of issues right 😅@BigJoe5.0
You're obviously a man of very much means what I call generational wealth. There's a bigger picture here. That of the disparity of income which has skyrocketed exponentially I love this channel but not this video so much.
Classy watch. I can definitely appreciate your style.
Oc your great just a down to earth guy. Happy thanksgiving to you and family
Whats that watch you got on?
Is that a Patek? Nautilus ? Nice at first I thought it was a royal oak
Great video and thanks
What exactly is it you do ?🤔
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Thanks o.c. For being on top of it …
Trump just announced a 25% tariff on Canada on Jan 20. These autos will be moved to the US before then. Then the plant will shut down.
Don't do it !! The bread, that is. It's no good for the ducks. Other then that though, keep rockin' brother.
I just got laid off as well. Happy holidays
I like that watch. Make?
Great Video and Happy Thanksgiving to u and ur family
You might have doxxed him when you showed your burgers. You can see the email, name etc.
The only reason I watch your videos is because you're a muscle head and I like your feedback. If you're not driving and talking about muscle cars that would be a shame. Not interested in you talking about a foreign race cars that we don't drive or like. good luck with that. Sorry to see you go.
Oc they got balls using the old names
Now you know the rest of the story
did i hear u correctly, josh laurent was sleeping at your house? caught me off guard 6:00
Can’t go wrong with a M3 comp… I’d trust a BMW tti6 over anything Stellantis is rushing to put out.
Get the m5 so its twin v8
Patek Nautilus?
BMW would be bad ass.
It’ll be broken.
What they are not factoring in is who is running the world. Who is toyotomi of nipon. It's not that they can't build cars that last, it's they are not allowed to compete because that would go against the demons of japan. The reason certain brands particulary german and korea brands can go with their culture of going in for maintenance every 2-3 years by law. This isn't the case in japan or united states of babylon. Everyone is just being fooled thinking they have a choice but really the choice is made for you ahead of time. What is B what is MW as above so below, what is merkava mercedes, What is satan toyotomi, what is manifestation hyundai, what is kiYaH, what is mazda zoroastrianism, what is the gate of H of honda, what is the X of chevy, what is ford? What is daimler chrysler conciousness, what is what is what is? Or stay asleep and continue being a slave to their system. They are all holding hands trying their damndest to keep you enslaved.
You should look for a Mercedes Benz AMG GTR on the used market and get rid of the Lamborghini for it. Just my thoughts. :)
He would like a porsche gt3 or turbo s alot more.
The AMG GT63 2 door is my dream car 💭🏎️BUT as nice as the orchestra sounds it probably doesn’t sound like the V10
BMW M4 is nice. A lot creators already have the M3
S58 OC 👀
S58 would be awesome to see on the channel I love the all the competition models M3 would probably suite you best for family but even the M4!!
Who’s buying those blenders 😂😂😂.
I think stellantis’s collapse is imminent in the first Quarter of 2025 then GM finishing with ford , But trump will bail them out .
Buy a Jetta. Vw can’t do wrong even when they admit doing it in court lol
Remember, happy wife, happy life!
Guess in getting a Hyundai
Bmws have no resale value. Go with an AMG Mercedes any model. Maybe an E class. 😎
Honestly those imperfections was kind of minor, with the exception of the possible airbag thing.