WRONG! He got the horse power right! This is a EURO Dark Horse NOT a US Dark Horse. The EURO models are detuned and have a low profile spoiler. Question is, why does he have a EURO edition Dark Horse???
Buy a new 2024 Mustang with a whipple supercharger from Lebanon Ford in Ohio for $49.9k. 800+ hp and 3 years bumper to bumper warranty on everything, including the whipple.
Because he's the fleet sales manager, he doesn't have to follow the script and methods that the regular, especially less senior, sales staff have drilled into them at every Saturday morning sales meeting by the general sales manager.
I drive a scat. Get the Dark horse if you already have 2 mopars. You can give us a comparison and create content on mopar and ford.👍 Mopar is cooked no matter what they do.
You will look back,,,,, and forward,,,,and back again ,,,and forward again,,,,,and sidewaays,,,,as you fishtail and spin out of control,,,,,,over a grass median,,and into a mailbox,,,,,as some stranger records it and posts it on utube,,,,,,with 9 kajillion other mustang lost control videos 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BigJoe5.0what's the point of buying a muscle car then? If we want to drive like a girl we can get a accord. Mustangs drive like a early 2000s viper. A new scatt slides like a dream.
I think every man who has a good sounding exhaust rolls down the windows in a tunnel. I think Ford has stuck to their guns and deserves a chance. It's a badass car.
I love my mustang. I thought it'd be the worst compared to the camaro and challenger. To my surprise I bought a mustang. It's honestly fun. It's a great car too, i have no regrets. To be fair I'm single so I don't need an suv.
@@GojirasBreath yeah that’s one thing that sucks but where I live I don’t have to deal with that a whole lot but I am more cautious when driving around any cities for bumps
How reliable are the gt350s? Especially motor wise? One of my neighbors has one and I think he blew the engine cause it hasn’t been moved in months. He even left it outside during the 2 hurricanes here in Florida. Feel bad for it every time I pass by in my scat.
My mom had a '69 Camaro. I think she bought it used some time in the early 70's and then got rid of it in '76. That same year, my late Dad bought a '76 Corvette Stingray. It got stolen out of his driveway in the early-mid 80's. It was recovered and the insurance company restored it but it was never the same. He ended up getting rid of it a couple of years later. If only my parents had kept those cars and handed them down to me 😂.
All we have in the Tucson area is Jim Click Ford and I’ve always had good experiences with them. They actually just did warranty work for me and saved me 5k by replacing the differential. I’ve owned 2 mustangs and 4 challengers. I will never again buy a dodge. All I have now is the 24 5.0 and threw a whipple on it, which the dealer did with a warranty. Awesome car!
Is the warranty every bit as good as Toyota's and Nissan's? Also the other issue with the Gen 4 Coyote (especially in the F150) is the cylinder deactivation (which is why I bought the 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it over the 2024 Ford F150 with the 5.0L Coyote V8 in it).
If Dodge hadn’t come back with the Challenger/Charger I would be driving a Mustang still. The only thing was that in the winter I threw a car cover over it and drove an old truck.
Our Ford dealer sold the DH's for under MSRP in the Midwest. They sold fairly quickly but to be honest, I haven't seen many on the road. I'm a Ford guy but the Dark Horse looks too much like the outgoing Camaro to me and I not a fan of the ipad dash at all.
I'd never go from manual to auto, no matter how much faster it is, or if your wife and daughhter cant drive it, i think thats a plus. Less to worry about. If you switch to Mustang, I hope its manual! Save the manuals!
Most Ford dealers will not sell mustang’s at sticker unless they have been sitting on their lot for quite awhile. After 6 months, the sales manager called me back and wanted to deal on a 2004 SVT Cobra.
Either of the mustang is a great car. Of course the Manuel shift is the fun part along with the sound . You won’t go wrong with either the 5.0 or dark horse. You are a lucky guy!
First time viewer here, not sure where you’re at but in the Midwest Dark Horses are at and below MSRP without asking. Might be worth shipping to wherever you are!
You can tell this guy has been in the business for years and doesn’t play games and is straight forward. Edit 1 min later: he said he’s been working there 12 years
My son just bought a 2019 Gt, i must say we are not fans of the newer models . Dash flat screen stuff feels too Ev to us. Just saying . Love your content
We bought a new car at Holiday Ford a few weeks ago. Honest, no markups and no add one. Quick, friendly and kind is what I have to say ... Dodge was impossible to even talk to here. Arrogant and condescending with tons of add ones. Never again for Stellantis
I recently bought a '24 GT for 40k. Capistrano/Kelly offered me something like 5-7% under MSRP- Capistrano's a good dealership, I am from socal and have bought from them before. I couldn't get them to come down enough, so I ended up buying from CrossRoads Ford, out in NC, who came down (edit: well) over 10% off MSRP. These things can be had for way less than what's on the sticker, you just need to find a dealer that: has had it on the lot a few months, or is a super high-volume dealer.
Hey Brad, that sales guy you were talking to. He's wrong on the horsepower on a non-active exhaust GT they are 480 hp active exhaust GT is 486 hp. The dark horse is 500 hp. That guy needs to learn about the cars he's trying to sell
I have had 5.0 Mustangs dating back to my 1979 Mustang Indy Pace car. I’m now 70 and this year bought a 2021 Mustang Ecoboost with 19,000 miles for $26,000 faster than the 5.0 300hp rip tires off it all I need at my age plus 30mpg. It’s a win win win able to swallow my pride and get the 4 cyl people shut up when they see how fast it is. Price is a great deal for a retiree even though it’s the most I’ve ever paid for a car.
lol you can tell you’re a dodge guy when you say I’ll leave the guys # in the description if you want to buy a dodge…at the mustang place 😂 we knew what you meant it’s just funny is all. Glad to see your channel is picking up I’ll have to go look at Novembers videos and see which one has the spike around 200k views
You definitely were dealing with somebody who’s been in the business for a while and he cut straight to the point, and was testing you to see how serious you were. Guaranteed you were dealing with one of their top sales guy cause he didn’t care about the addendum because he wants to move cars. Even if you were going in there to do content and we’re not trying to buy a car, that guy was effective enough to get your wheels turning in your head and it wouldn’t shock me if you did trade your car. I don’t think it’s a Dodge or Ford thing, it just depends on what franchise runs that dealership and how they train their staff effectively to sell cars.
Chevy is way different than Dodge but some dealers love that addendum and I wouldn’t buy until they told why I needed those. The dealer actually named your RUclips channel. They were trying to sell me stuff I didn’t want.
DarkHorse is nice but a little pricey. In my area 76k for Premium and handling package. Then about another 11k if you supercharge it. I have owned 17 Mustangs and currently own one. Almost 90k is getting a little ridiculous.
Honestly, if you’re gonna get a Dark Horse, I’d get a slightly used one. Those can run around $10k less than brand new with less than 10k miles on the odometer. I’ve seen a few drop down to $59k depending on the area.
Bought a Ford exec driver via a friend's family dealership network. Got it straight out of Dearborn, with 2075.6 miles on it, and had the history of it. At $47,600 for that GT350, I think I did okay on it...
$73k for a fancy “Mustang GT” with that tiny spoiler is ridiculous. And they want $10k mark up? Lol. I bought a new ‘20 ZL1 in 2019 for $60k ($7k discount), I can’t believe a few years later that’s a base price of Dark Horse which is just a GT with some upgrades… I think today a Mustang GT with a nice discount is the way to go for like $45k.
I’m shocked that a Dark Horse can demand a 10K markup. I just bought my custom ordered 2024 Corvette for 3K under MSRP! I’m in Texas and Chevy dealers are giving 5-7K off MSRP in stock Vette’s.
those big screen dashes are a fad. i hate them personally. all you need is real gauges to drive a car not all those distractions. i will say i'm glad the cheap tablet glued to the dash fad is all but over.
I don’t even have to look at my Rams dash while my eyes are on the road. I know where every button is. Now people have to watch tv while they drive to control things.
Ive owned it all. My 24 GT 10 speed has an Xpipe, active exhaust and Steeda filters. I have Steeda springs on the way. The Ford was decent and its absolutely faster than a Scat Pack.
Brad you asked me today and I will buy a Ford mustang dark horse any day of the year now you asked me next year when they bring out that 4/7 Magnum or that 57 hemi we can talk about right now the car that I'm looking at is a Shelby GT500 2026
Hey OC, my good friend has a Mustang Shelby 6 speed, on the track it is a thrill. Catching up to traffic might as well be a pinto. Like the guys that put Hemi decals on dads Dodge Polara, looked great in stop and go. You also didn't have to pay for the gas. I drove a 440 Intercepter, and in town for more than 5 or 6 red lights, that night I would be putting in fresh plugs. Slant six would get me father, just change the decals. Also about the new Corvette's, if you want something that looks Italian you will buy Italian, duh. Thanks ANB
Tuttle-Click is horrible. After buying several cars from them, they asked $6k over sticker for my 2006 Magnum SRT8. I walked away and bought one for sticker from another dealer.
Maybe I missed it in a previous video... But you talk in this video about electric throw away cars. What would be in your option would be a better "investment" a Dodge charger EV Stage 2 or a Model 3 performance. I have a challenger T/A but I am also considering a model 3 performance. What's your thoughts?
Sooo. Neither are good investments as you’ll lose 50% in depreciation the first year. With that said, I recommend buying a 1 or 2 year old Tesla that’s already depreciated in the $25k range. Don’t worry too much about miles as these are appliances so not the same as gas cars. Then at least you’ll have Teslas super charging network which will make owning an EV at least palatable. The charger ev is a disaster right now and I wouldn’t trust stellantis with anything, especially a first run new platform. Not to mention their range sucks, slower than a Tesla performance or the same as a regular model 3, and twice the money. Just doesn’t make sense. But if you do have to have the dodge then lease it so you can mitigate the horrible depreciation.
I can’t believe people even pay sticker for the Dark Horse which is essentially a glorified PP2 pack GT. Crazy how expensive the latest Mustang GT costs
Car salesman. 😂. Have ordered trucks for my business. I make sure to find a saleswoman. And order from her. Just to piss them off. The faces they make is priceless.
It doesn't matter what deal you get from a Ford store. It's what happens afterwards. The CEO of Ford themselves said that it's going to take a decade or more to get their quality issues under control. Judging by the recent spike of Ford recalls, I'm believing him....
Honestly I say do it. Give your honest review of the car as a Dodge owner. Dodge left us, we didn't leave them but now we have to find something else to buy.
I don’t think it’s a Ford vs Dodge thing when it comes to the sales people at the dealerships I think it’s simply dealership culture and individual sales people. The guy said they don’t sell a lot of Mustangs in that dealership and they aren’t that popular around there hence he’s gonna be more motivated to work with you . Go to another dealer where they are selling like hotcakes and you know what will happen.
To each their own, but I would never, ever pay over sticker for any vehicle. There’s more than plenty of profits for the dealer and the manufacturer at sticker.
I stopped the video at 5':12" to protest the rectangular LCD television screens. They just take away from the overall beauty of this vehicle. It's a potential deal breaker for me if there is a Camaro of similar characteristics available for purchase.
By the car you will not regret it I owned like you many Dodge Mopers for many years in 2021 I totaled my completely loaded Scat Pack it had everything even the stripes on it from the factory after 12 years of owning Mopars I think it was I got mad at my dealer I bought all my cars from them they would not give me a fair deal so I went down the road to Ford and I bought a 5.0 convertible Mustang and for two and a half years I drove that car into the ground I had a blast in it I didn't care what anyone thought but I always wanted to go back to Mopar so now I'm driving a 2023 Mopar last call Scat Pack and it's wonderful cause I'm back in the saddle as I say and give it a try you won't regret it I was in the Mustang for two and a half years and I loved that car but I like the Mopars better.
As long as you don't sell the lambo, I would love to have one of those or a GT3RS there's a huracan 640-P AWD with 1,700hp for sale right now for like 430k granted its over priced but that'd be sick.
480 horsepower and 486 horsepower with the active exhaust on the GT. I think the dark Horse basically makes the same power it just has a lot better suspension and some other bs. I don't believe the dark Horse is worth 20 something odd thousand more but I wouldn't want to track the car. I just want to burn the s*** out of the tires and do donuts and stuff and crash into crowds 😄😊
I think ford will sell you a vehicle direct without the dealers markup or bullshit. I personally wouldn't pay over msrp for any new vehicle and would find a dealer online and buy from them.
I like and appreciate Ford will continue to build V8s. The Dark horse is a nice car. If you could afford to do so. I would have both. Compare see what you think. I have had 5 Dodges and currently have my last. Which is a SRT Durango. No a muscle car but with the snow we just got. A lot of fun
He got his horsepower numbers messed up
Dark Horse - 500HP
GT- 480HP or 486HP with active exhaust
Correct!!
Yeah, I’m glad you listed that because I was going to say the same thing dark horse is 500 naturally aspirated
Ford lying😂
I’m surprised to see a dark horse. The GT350 is the 🐐 and so unique
WRONG! He got the horse power right! This is a EURO Dark Horse NOT a US Dark Horse. The EURO models are detuned and have a low profile spoiler. Question is, why does he have a EURO edition Dark Horse???
Just bought a 2024 mustang gt over the weekend after my scat pack got stolen recently. Screw stellantis and their products/dealers!
My thoughts exactly.
I can't believe they have a 5.0 for 47k. That's insane.
@therealsyxx not really? I didn't pay that for mine but I don't have alot of the options you can get. Newer cars are expensive, its 2024
@@therealsyxx
Insanely overpriced if you ask me I remember when I was 18 I bought a brand new 1991 Mustang GT 5.0 for 15 grand.
@@therealsyxxWhat's the warranty? Is it as good as Nissan's warranty?
Buy a new 2024 Mustang with a whipple supercharger from Lebanon Ford in Ohio for $49.9k. 800+ hp and 3 years bumper to bumper warranty on everything, including the whipple.
I'm headed to the website now.😂😂😂
I want their truck same deal . 2 door base work truck with whipple but their back ordered
Great fleet manager... Dude had me convinced I should buy that Dark Horse too. I really appreciate his sncerety & honesty.
Why can every car salesman be like this guy?
@migueldelaguardia It all comes down to management, I know first hand lol.
Because he's the fleet sales manager, he doesn't have to follow the script and methods that the regular, especially less senior, sales staff have drilled into them at every Saturday morning sales meeting by the general sales manager.
Management loves to hire newbies that they can mold. Old guys don’t have time to fuk around
I'm not paying 83k for mustang dark horse.
Get outta here...
Definitely not for no FORD, lol
@livinglife3230 but you would for a DODGE? 😂😂
You can get a dark horse for $60k over in NC if you look in the right spots
@@bobcobb6809 yeah I would, a 2018 dodge demon 😈
I drive a scat. Get the Dark horse if you already have 2 mopars. You can give us a comparison and create content on mopar and ford.👍 Mopar is cooked no matter what they do.
@@stansfield-p3p yep. The only reason the dodge brand stayed relevant was the hemi
Get a GT or Dark Horse and have them put the Whipple kit on it, you'll never look back
@pchappy2.0 the Whipple kit is 10k not installed but I've been looking into it already and I've only owned a GT for 2 days lol
@@pchappy2.0 I’m going to get a F150 awd 10-speed just to do the whipple lol
You will look back,,,,, and forward,,,,and back again ,,,and forward again,,,,,and sidewaays,,,,as you fishtail and spin out of control,,,,,,over a grass median,,and into a mailbox,,,,,as some stranger records it and posts it on utube,,,,,,with 9 kajillion other mustang lost control videos 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mikemoscato2995 grow up dude. If you don't drive stupid, stupid things won't happen
@@BigJoe5.0what's the point of buying a muscle car then? If we want to drive like a girl we can get a accord. Mustangs drive like a early 2000s viper. A new scatt slides like a dream.
I think every man who has a good sounding exhaust rolls down the windows in a tunnel. I think Ford has stuck to their guns and deserves a chance. It's a badass car.
@@AD1978leo the city where I live has tunnels 10 km long . Fair to say my windows are down the whole way
I love my mustang. I thought it'd be the worst compared to the camaro and challenger. To my surprise I bought a mustang. It's honestly fun. It's a great car too, i have no regrets. To be fair I'm single so I don't need an suv.
Traded my cat for one. No more gapping me.
The sales guy was a really nice guy and that's what a salesman should be and I used to sell cars like I told you when I was 17 years old back in 1980
I almost got a dark horse but instead got the Shelby gt350. Mark up is crazy but at least he’s willing to work with you 👍🏽
I had a gt350, now have a dark horse. I regret selling the gt350 because of the motor but I like the DH better.
@ understandable I love the dark horse but I love the sound of the gt350 I couldn’t pass it up lol
@txotacticle2514 I spent about $10k to repour my driveway and the gt350 still scraped driving up it. DH has more ground clearance.
@@GojirasBreath yeah that’s one thing that sucks but where I live I don’t have to deal with that a whole lot but I am more cautious when driving around any cities for bumps
How reliable are the gt350s? Especially motor wise? One of my neighbors has one and I think he blew the engine cause it hasn’t been moved in months. He even left it outside during the 2 hurricanes here in Florida. Feel bad for it every time I pass by in my scat.
The Dark Horse looks a lot like a Camaro.
Even more like an M4, inside and out.
Being a Mopar fan I would absolutely love for you to get that Mustang!!
The Dark Horse is around 500hp when you get the performance package. The normal GT for 2024 is 460 to 480 hp
@MatteGrayR dark horse is 500hp and GT is 480hp
Sales guy is referring to butt HP. 😊
486 if you get AE.
@@RR_85active exhaust*
@ my bad, that’s correct.
500 hp for $80+. smoked out...
@@mekrobar7872 🤣🤣🤣
Another Tire Kicker😂
My mom had a '69 Camaro. I think she bought it used some time in the early 70's and then got rid of it in '76. That same year, my late Dad bought a '76 Corvette Stingray. It got stolen out of his driveway in the early-mid 80's. It was recovered and the insurance company restored it but it was never the same. He ended up getting rid of it a couple of years later. If only my parents had kept those cars and handed them down to me 😂.
I love buying cars from guys like this, always the best experience.
All we have in the Tucson area is Jim Click Ford and I’ve always had good experiences with them. They actually just did warranty work for me and saved me 5k by replacing the differential. I’ve owned 2 mustangs and 4 challengers. I will never again buy a dodge. All I have now is the 24 5.0 and threw a whipple on it, which the dealer did with a warranty. Awesome car!
You must be on the east side of town because Holmes Tuttle Ford is at the auto mall right down from Tucson Mall.
I miss Egees, Skate Country, and Mt. Lemon.
Is the warranty every bit as good as Toyota's and Nissan's? Also the other issue with the Gen 4 Coyote (especially in the F150) is the cylinder deactivation (which is why I bought the 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it over the 2024 Ford F150 with the 5.0L Coyote V8 in it).
@@holdlgang it’s the same company
If Dodge hadn’t come back with the Challenger/Charger I would be driving a Mustang still. The only thing was that in the winter I threw a car cover over it and drove an old truck.
That touch screen looks pretty until it malfunctions and gives out after warranty.😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Our Ford dealer sold the DH's for under MSRP in the Midwest. They sold fairly quickly but to be honest, I haven't seen many on the road. I'm a Ford guy but the Dark Horse looks too much like the outgoing Camaro to me and I not a fan of the ipad dash at all.
Same here
I'd never go from manual to auto, no matter how much faster it is, or if your wife and daughhter cant drive it, i think thats a plus. Less to worry about.
If you switch to Mustang, I hope its manual! Save the manuals!
I thought the new Corvette sucks because there's no manual. But that's just me.
I went from ‘18 SS m6 to ‘24 c8, really didn’t have an option. Thought I’d miss my manual, but once I was in the c8, wouldn’t trade it for nothing
I love my Dark Horse ! And I be owned two Scats!
Most Ford dealers will not sell mustang’s at sticker unless they have been sitting on their lot for quite awhile. After 6 months, the sales manager called me back and wanted to deal on a 2004 SVT Cobra.
GTs they will, atleast they should at this time of the year. The Dark Horse probably not
I Got my 24 gt 3 weeks for 3k under msrp.
Either of the mustang is a great car. Of course the Manuel shift is the fun part along with the sound . You won’t go wrong with either the 5.0 or dark horse. You are a lucky guy!
First time viewer here, not sure where you’re at but in the Midwest Dark Horses are at and below MSRP without asking. Might be worth shipping to wherever you are!
The Ford dealer in Chula Vista was awesome. Deal was done over the phone. No BS. If I need I need another Ford or a dually, I’d head over there again.
bro still blaming covid lmao...classic
I like Mustangs, my childhood buddy had a 69 Mustang fastback, single race seat inside, toe trough tires like they were free.
You can tell this guy has been in the business for years and doesn’t play games and is straight forward.
Edit 1 min later: he said he’s been working there 12 years
"oh... You're trying to meet Jesus" 🤣
That’s all that’s left.. thanks for being on top of it, O.C. …..
I'm a Mopar guy but I'd love to see you get the Darkhorse because I'm sure like many others I'm ready for a change and ford seems to be the way.
My son just bought a 2019 Gt, i must say we are not fans of the newer models . Dash flat screen stuff feels too Ev to us. Just saying . Love your content
We bought a new car at Holiday Ford a few weeks ago. Honest, no markups and no add one. Quick, friendly and kind is what I have to say ... Dodge was impossible to even talk to here. Arrogant and condescending with tons of add ones. Never again for Stellantis
I recently bought a '24 GT for 40k. Capistrano/Kelly offered me something like 5-7% under MSRP- Capistrano's a good dealership, I am from socal and have bought from them before.
I couldn't get them to come down enough, so I ended up buying from CrossRoads Ford, out in NC, who came down (edit: well) over 10% off MSRP.
These things can be had for way less than what's on the sticker, you just need to find a dealer that: has had it on the lot a few months, or is a super high-volume dealer.
Hey Brad, that sales guy you were talking to. He's wrong on the horsepower on a non-active exhaust GT they are 480 hp active exhaust GT is 486 hp. The dark horse is 500 hp. That guy needs to learn about the cars he's trying to sell
Stand up guy. Get the dark horse. 😊
I have had 5.0 Mustangs dating back to my 1979 Mustang Indy Pace car. I’m now 70 and this year bought a 2021 Mustang Ecoboost with 19,000 miles for $26,000 faster than the 5.0 300hp rip tires off it all I need at my age plus 30mpg. It’s a win win win able to swallow my pride and get the 4 cyl people shut up when they see how fast it is. Price is a great deal for a retiree even though it’s the most I’ve ever paid for a car.
The Ecoboost stangs always gave me SVO vibes.
Just sold my DH via private sale. Wasn't worth it for what I want to do. Kinda a marketing scheme for upbadged GT.
For a mustang GT 2 weeks ago with 3k under MSRP. No dealer fees or bullshitting on prices. It depends on the dealer you go to.
lol you can tell you’re a dodge guy when you say I’ll leave the guys # in the description if you want to buy a dodge…at the mustang place 😂 we knew what you meant it’s just funny is all. Glad to see your channel is picking up I’ll have to go look at Novembers videos and see which one has the spike around 200k views
You definitely were dealing with somebody who’s been in the business for a while and he cut straight to the point, and was testing you to see how serious you were. Guaranteed you were dealing with one of their top sales guy cause he didn’t care about the addendum because he wants to move cars. Even if you were going in there to do content and we’re not trying to buy a car, that guy was effective enough to get your wheels turning in your head and it wouldn’t shock me if you did trade your car. I don’t think it’s a Dodge or Ford thing, it just depends on what franchise runs that dealership and how they train their staff effectively to sell cars.
That salesman is a loser.
Do you still have your Demon 170 I can’t find a video on where you mentioned you sold it.
Thanks love your videos.
Chevy is way different than Dodge but some dealers love that addendum and I wouldn’t buy until they told why I needed those. The dealer actually named your RUclips channel. They were trying to sell me stuff I didn’t want.
DarkHorse is nice but a little pricey. In my area 76k for Premium and handling package. Then about another 11k if you supercharge it. I have owned 17 Mustangs and currently own one. Almost 90k is getting a little ridiculous.
Honestly, if you’re gonna get a Dark Horse, I’d get a slightly used one. Those can run around $10k less than brand new with less than 10k miles on the odometer. I’ve seen a few drop down to $59k depending on the area.
Better off buying just mustang gt and getting whipple supercharger for 10k bolt on and get 700-800hp and have a lot fun!
OCM is the real man. Another awesome video.
Bought a Ford exec driver via a friend's family dealership network. Got it straight out of Dearborn, with 2075.6 miles on it, and had the history of it. At $47,600 for that GT350, I think I did okay on it...
$73k for a fancy “Mustang GT” with that tiny spoiler is ridiculous. And they want $10k mark up? Lol. I bought a new ‘20 ZL1 in 2019 for $60k ($7k discount), I can’t believe a few years later that’s a base price of Dark Horse which is just a GT with some upgrades… I think today a Mustang GT with a nice discount is the way to go for like $45k.
I’m shocked that a Dark Horse can demand a 10K markup. I just bought my custom ordered 2024 Corvette for 3K under MSRP! I’m in Texas and Chevy dealers are giving 5-7K off MSRP in stock Vette’s.
Stop using the word markup… its a 10k$ dollar price gouge
those big screen dashes are a fad. i hate them personally. all you need is real gauges to drive a car not all those distractions. i will say i'm glad the cheap tablet glued to the dash fad is all but over.
I don’t even have to look at my Rams dash while my eyes are on the road. I know where every button is. Now people have to watch tv while they drive to control things.
Ive owned it all. My 24 GT 10 speed has an Xpipe, active exhaust and Steeda filters. I have Steeda springs on the way. The Ford was decent and its absolutely faster than a Scat Pack.
I’m biased but I think you gotta get the Dark horse. True American car. Also very different than your past cars.
Brad you asked me today and I will buy a Ford mustang dark horse any day of the year now you asked me next year when they bring out that 4/7 Magnum or that 57 hemi we can talk about right now the car that I'm looking at is a Shelby GT500 2026
I love the new mustang, but I wish they offered a sunroof.
Hey OC, my good friend has a Mustang Shelby 6 speed, on the track it is a thrill. Catching up to traffic might as well be a pinto. Like the guys that put Hemi decals on dads Dodge Polara, looked great in stop and go. You also didn't have to pay for the gas. I drove a 440 Intercepter, and in town for more than 5 or 6 red lights, that night I would be putting in fresh plugs. Slant six would get me father, just change the decals. Also about the new Corvette's, if you want something that looks Italian you will buy Italian, duh. Thanks ANB
Tuttle-Click is horrible. After buying several cars from them, they asked $6k over sticker for my 2006 Magnum SRT8. I walked away and bought one for sticker from another dealer.
Do you think prices in California reflects to any other states?
Maybe I missed it in a previous video... But you talk in this video about electric throw away cars. What would be in your option would be a better "investment" a Dodge charger EV Stage 2 or a Model 3 performance. I have a challenger T/A but I am also considering a model 3 performance. What's your thoughts?
Sooo. Neither are good investments as you’ll lose 50% in depreciation the first year. With that said, I recommend buying a 1 or 2 year old Tesla that’s already depreciated in the $25k range. Don’t worry too much about miles as these are appliances so not the same as gas cars. Then at least you’ll have Teslas super charging network which will make owning an EV at least palatable. The charger ev is a disaster right now and I wouldn’t trust stellantis with anything, especially a first run new platform. Not to mention their range sucks, slower than a Tesla performance or the same as a regular model 3, and twice the money. Just doesn’t make sense. But if you do have to have the dodge then lease it so you can mitigate the horrible depreciation.
I do not like the digital screens. Give me the option of real gauges.
I said that in a survey about my mustang. Hopefully ford reads them because i want analog gauges and ac buttons.
I can’t believe people even pay sticker for the Dark Horse which is essentially a glorified PP2 pack GT. Crazy how expensive the latest Mustang GT costs
You can get a base GT for 43 here in Louisiana
Hell yeah Brad go for it. Having both would be great to see.
Would love hearing a side-by-side comparison by you, as an owner, between the two.
Get a C8 prices are dropping on them too
Car salesman. 😂. Have ordered trucks for my business. I make sure to find a saleswoman. And order from her. Just to piss them off. The faces they make is priceless.
Yeah the electric cars are disposable especially when they light on fire
Its easier to ask for forgiveness than asking for permission 😊
Oh man that Lambo backfiring in California is gonna get you in trouble. 😅😅
Why didn't you drive that dark horse, man!?!?
480 5.0 486 with performance pack and 500 dh.
Personally I would trade your Scat for a Dark Horse with the Tremec and never look back! 😂
It doesn't matter what deal you get from a Ford store. It's what happens afterwards.
The CEO of Ford themselves said that it's going to take a decade or more to get their quality issues under control.
Judging by the recent spike of Ford recalls, I'm believing him....
Honestly I say do it. Give your honest review of the car as a Dodge owner. Dodge left us, we didn't leave them but now we have to find something else to buy.
Not everybody's dream car was a '69 Camaro. I would take a '69 Caprice with the big engine and covered headlights before I would take a common Camaro.
I don’t think it’s a Ford vs Dodge thing when it comes to the sales people at the dealerships I think it’s simply dealership culture and individual sales people. The guy said they don’t sell a lot of Mustangs in that dealership and they aren’t that popular around there hence he’s gonna be more motivated to work with you . Go to another dealer where they are selling like hotcakes and you know what will happen.
Great video and keep up the good work
So close to getting a Mustang GT. Can’t wait. Wish I could get the Dark Horse
To each their own, but I would never, ever pay over sticker for any vehicle. There’s more than plenty of profits for the dealer and the manufacturer at sticker.
Funny, I just looked at that same Darkhorse last week in SJC. Too bad it was an auto, and with a crazy markup.
I love my Dark Horse Premium 6 speed. Go for it! Have fun.
I had a MoPar once. I came to the understanding MoPar is short for, "I need More Parts".
Buddy’s strange makes 690 and they stopped as you need a steel block to make more. Fun cars.
That's a Nice DarkHorse and it's definitely a better car than a Scat
get the supercharger upgrade. its supported by the warranty too
I wonder how many sales have been lost because the salesman under quote the horsepower, especially if it is by 50 HP..
I think it would be cool for you to show dodge and ford content I like them both
I stopped the video at 5':12" to protest the rectangular LCD television screens. They just take away from the overall beauty of this vehicle. It's a potential deal breaker for me if there is a Camaro of similar characteristics available for purchase.
By the car you will not regret it I owned like you many Dodge Mopers for many years in 2021 I totaled my completely loaded Scat Pack it had everything even the stripes on it from the factory after 12 years of owning Mopars I think it was I got mad at my dealer I bought all my cars from them they would not give me a fair deal so I went down the road to Ford and I bought a 5.0 convertible Mustang and for two and a half years I drove that car into the ground I had a blast in it I didn't care what anyone thought but I always wanted to go back to Mopar so now I'm driving a 2023 Mopar last call Scat Pack and it's wonderful cause I'm back in the saddle as I say and give it a try you won't regret it I was in the Mustang for two and a half years and I loved that car but I like the Mopars better.
I bought a new DH with handling pack and manual for $6k under msrp.
In 1977 I paid cash for a Camaro Rally Sport brand new. 350, 4spd, posi traction. $5000. I would never spend $80k on any car. 🤑
As long as you don't sell the lambo, I would love to have one of those or a GT3RS there's a huracan 640-P AWD with 1,700hp for sale right now for like 430k granted its over priced but that'd be sick.
480 horsepower and 486 horsepower with the active exhaust on the GT. I think the dark Horse basically makes the same power it just has a lot better suspension and some other bs. I don't believe the dark Horse is worth 20 something odd thousand more but I wouldn't want to track the car. I just want to burn the s*** out of the tires and do donuts and stuff and crash into crowds 😄😊
I think ford will sell you a vehicle direct without the dealers markup or bullshit. I personally wouldn't pay over msrp for any new vehicle and would find a dealer online and buy from them.
I’m keeping my 23 5.0 roush supercharged.im done getting screwd with mark ups and depreciation 😅 I’m happy with my car .smiles per gallon 😊
Stop calling it dodge. It’s not it’s a fiat. It’s not even American car company anymore
The Gt is 486hp with active exhaust the dark horse is 500hp
I like and appreciate Ford will continue to build V8s. The Dark horse is a nice car. If you could afford to do so. I would have both. Compare see what you think. I have had 5 Dodges and currently have my last. Which is a SRT Durango. No a muscle car but with the snow we just got. A lot of fun