One of those thermostats is not very good
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- #nest #hive #thermostat
Hive vs Nest Thermostat comparison and review video.
In this video I am comparing two most popular smart thermostats on the market in the UK - Nest 3rd Generation Self-Learning Thermostat with Hive Active Heating and Hot Water.
Nest vs Hive Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:42 Design
02:50 Controls
04:30 Sensors
05:31 Multi zone control
06:28 Connectivity
07:52 Product line up
09:18 Open Therm
10:17 Installation
11:50 Are they smart?
13:41 Cost
14:12 Savings
15:40 Outro 
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Great video. Very informative. I'm a local plumber, and you have helped me recommend my customers when installing or up grading their heating systems.
Thanks
Hi. Great comparison. I have Nest thermostat installed 2 years now and I'm very satisfied with it. I've also followed your installation video which helped me to install Nest into my system. Thanks, keep up good work!
Thank you!
I was normally following electrician videos about solar panels and green energy but your videos are great and full of knowledge. Keep up with the good work mate! Subscribed of course.
Another great video as always. Clear and precise. Much appreciated.
I’ve had a Hive system in our previous property and we are looking to change our boiler too. This would be very much appreciated. Thank you for some great advice. John
That was the clearest video I have viewed regarding smart thermostats. The evidence, both for and against, is presented in an easily digestible form. The great thing is that after viewing the video, I am much clearer as to which direction I will go with regard to installtion. Many thanks.
Often wondered what the pros and cons of each are. Very informative, thanks!
Your videos are very informative and show the depth of your knowledge. Thanks for taking the time to do them.
Glad you like them!
Have seen your review on this one and also how to install both. Extremely useful and we'll prepared. Making a decision now on which one... But will definitely ask a professional to install. Learnt quite clearly that the initial install might beyond me which is already a substantial save... Well done!!
thank for the comment!
Really well presented and explained clearly. I'm looking at installing one of these products myself, so the heads-up on the simplicity of the hive system installation and compatibility with my existing systems programmer had probably made my mind up...
Thanks and look forward to more vids...
Peter
no worries, thanks for watching
I've been looking for a new smart thermostat and your videos have been super helpful! A shame I missed the competition but thank you for the help
Next time!
Thanks for the video, really help with what I looking for. Will be looking at the install videos too!
Just the information I need to help me choose a smart thermostat for my home. Very well explained as with all your other videos. Thanks.
Great video ! Very easy to follow , explained the pro’s and con’s of both and what systems/ boilers they are suitable for , so anyone could / should be able to choose which product is suitable for their system, I wish all were as good as explaining tech stuff as this chap is 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative. I like the realistic points made in the video without overblown presenting. Just the facts. Almost a refreshing change to most RUclips videos. I think I would go with the Hive after watching this.
Top job on the video bud very informative on the comparison of both products im using nest at the moment and find it very user friendly aswell as compatability on other systems when installing yes the wiring terminals are a bit tricky but overall good 👍😎😍💯😎👍😎
Excellent overview from a very knowledgeable engineer. Other videos in this series are excellent as well.
Thank you very much!
Great video !!! Thanks !!! I was doubting on which one is better thanks !!! Already subscribed for new videos !!!
finally!! after months of research.... simple clear explanation on plus & minus for each model..thanks!
glad I could help!
Haven't used the nest. But I am very happy with the hive. Simple and easy
That's been exactly my experience. Some systems offer so many useless bells and whistles they put me off completely.
@@PedalBikerUKwell said silly add ons 95% of people won't ever use
I installed a nest using your help video. Seems like a good product so far but as you said the learning function is not for everyone! Great videos. Well done!
Great video - I was looking to install a Nest on my partners dual zone and hot water tank system, your previous video made it seem possible, but having now watched this, I'm going to get Hive to save the fitting hassle. Great accent too, you should do audiobooks.
Will keep that in mind :)
Very good video for anyone needing to know the real time facts and unbiased review, very clear details and easy to understand. I will be using the instillation videos for support when setting up my chosen product.
Thank you very much!
I haven’t tried either of these products yet. On my latest project we are installing a nest thermostat. The look is much more modern and sleek IMO, so goes with the decor. Great video as always
Yes they look cool
Cheers for the review on both. Very well explained and went into great detail.
Glad you liked it!
Hello! Wow perfect timing. Just moved into a fancy new home on my own where everything is modern but the Worcester boiler thermostat has a mind of its own! It’s a little stressful trying to fix it constantly whilst working from home so would love to win this. Thank you 🙂
Perfect!
Very Informative, helpful and detailed video - just like all your other videos. Thanks
The differences are really well expalined, thank you!
thanks!
Very comprehensive appraisal. I like that you gave your personal choice. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Great summary thanks. I just bought the Nest and am now reassured I've made the right choice 👍
Excellent video. I have gone down the Wiser route where I have a thermostat in each room room and you can modulate the boiler.
Only problem is that I have a Worcester Combi which I don’t think has Open Therm.
Came across your video just as your titles says to compare the two systems, looks like I will go for the nest, many thanks for your advice
I prefer Nest myself but Hive will suit some people
Very interesting information on both of these digital thermostats.Love the more futuristic styling of the nest…that would be the likely winner for a lot of people 👍🏴👍
Sadly hive is being abandoned/shot down by 2025
Love your videos mate. Very informative. Going to be re-wiring my house soon, so a new Hive would be great to put in 😊🤞
Cool, you are in and at this rate we will have 100 comments very soon
Thank you for another very informative video with in depth knowledge and comparison
Yuh are welcome mate !
Thank you for doing what you do and sharing your knowledge on here 👍
You are welcome !
Excellent video explanations and comparison of each product. I’ve watched
Thanks for the video, very informative and well structured. Big thumbs up
Glad you enjoyed it!
A great level of detail in the comparison. Great video 👍🏼
Thanks mate
An interesting comparison. I have an Intergas combi boiler with their own Comfort Touch Gateway hub to link the boiler to their app and also a Honeywell Single Zone thermostat, separately linked to the boiler. The boiler is great but the Gateway and the app are not the best bit of IT and tech around. I’m looking at installing new smart TRV’s on all my radiators and was considering both Nest and Hive as the alternatives. This has gone a long way to helping me decide as Intergas are OpenTherm compatible. Thank you so much for this video - it’s come as an unexpected bonus!
Thanks for the comparison. Loved catching up with your channel. Had a Hive in my last house and it worked well for me, so would be happy to win one for my new home!! Keep up the good work.
Ok, you are in :)
Thank you for the comparison, very informative. Good content on the channel. Subscribed.
Thanks mate!
Great review, really well explained. I’ve watched all your Nest and Hive install videos, learned so much about how my home is wired and plumbed! Would feel confident to install either the Nest or Hive now
Great!
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Really enjoy your videos . Work quality is fantastic and meticulous . Keep making the videos .
I will. Promise. Thank you for watching.
Clear, concise and professional comparison of Nest versus Hive thermostats. 👍
Much appreciated video. A great help as have to replace the boiler and upgrade whole system. Many thanks.
Good description thanks. Quick question we have a thermostat in each room so six or so in total. With either of the smart controllers will the room thermostats still work or will we have to add more products?
I've had both and liked both. Both do ultimately similarly things - allow you to set schedules and then remotely turn the heating on or off if you need to. For me they both have pros and cons. The Nest is nicer to look, I like the 'walk towards' feature for the weather when heading out the door, the learning thing is clever, and it has Opentherm. However I don't like that it needs plugging in - if you want it neatly on a wall you need to chase a cable in. Also lack of same-brand smart TRVs is unfortunate. Hive is battery powered so you can put it anywhere, has the 'boost' function which is handy, and scheduling is easier. No Opentherm though, less attractive, and you have to have the bridge thing (whatever its called) somewhere near the router.
Can you charge the nest?
Plus the cheaper Nest E was hobbled by no water heat control even if less sexy design.Not seen many hardware upgrades.
Thanks for the video, very informative and well structured. 👏👏👏👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks! really nice video, easy to follow and understand!
Great overview. I’m about to have Hive installed at a holiday let. The aim being that I can control the heating remotely and turn it off after guests leave, then back on when new guests are due. You don’t talk about that ability in your video. I would have found that helpful. A lot of these thermostats are being used by Airbnb owners. Thanks for a clear and detailed overview of both Hive and Nest. 👍
this is an internet stat so you can turn it on off up or down after they go no problem
You can control NEST remotely from the app.
Great video, well thought out and presented, as usual. First came across your channel when I was installing a 2 zone nest for a friend to replace his 2 zone hive. (He was in the Google ecosphere, having the door bell, cameras, and the smoke alarms, so made sense for him to upgrade). I've inherited his old hives, but neither of his two were the single channel, no hot water ones, so winning your one would be great, and I do actually have 3 zones plus hot water. The other thing I've noticed about most of these smart stats is that most of them rely on time as opposed to temp to do a cylinder of hot water. So, in the summer, they have no idea what temp the water is in your cylinder, and the boiler could be cycling on and off like crazy I'm imagine?
I like the functional look of the hive, and agree with you about the buttons, makes more sense. The use of touch screens has gone out of control. Look at most new cars, there's one where you have to open the glove box from the central touch screen! Only thing I'd like might be an always on display if there was the option to hook it up to a permanent supply.
Opentherm on the nest is a waste of time I think. Most people unless its a one floor apartment will have 2 zones, and then opentherm won't work with nest (as far as I know?)
Keep up the good work!
Hi, thanks for the comment. On the hot water cylinder issue it will only happen (cycling) if you have it wired bypassing the thermostat on the cylinder which is not to the standard. If wired correctly the stat on the cylinder will turn the boiler off even if the programmer / stat is asking for the water to be on.
On the OT issue, you are correct, single zone only at the moment. It would be nice if google had a hub that controls the boielr and other nests connecting through the hub. That would allow OT multizone. There are some DIY solutions good people of the Internet are working on.
@@UrbanPlumbers agreed, but most systems I see being upgraded have not even had wall stats, not to mind cylinder stats before. And because these smart systems don't have a solution, the cylinder coil and cylinder temp aren't controlled or monitored...
You are not supposed to wire a smart stat to a cylinder without its own stat. It would cycle on any set up. Cyl. Stat is a G3 and building regs requirement.
@@UrbanPlumbers 👍
As we found the far sight on NEST is not so great if you have pets. Not sure if this was not updated recently but when we had this on our dog would trigger the thermostat to heat all day even with geotagging function when we were out.
NEST recently released a major update and changed several features like ECO function when you leave the property finally works properly, but it must be manually turned off which is annoying. The upside of this update is that it looks like they set the temperatures below desired values to see when occupants are too cold and then adjust when required. I think it works better this way.
NEST was also very annoying with the preheat function of 5h as it would start heating up at 2 am to meet the set temperature at 7, even though it only took 30 mins to heat up. I have reported it multiple times and Google could not resolve it, but there must have been a problem, as it was fixed with the next update
I tried both and yes, the HIVE thermostat was easier to use, but as you said it didn't offer the EcoTherm communication protocol, which apparently even with limited functionality with many boilers (I have an Ideal Vogue) still allow for better modulation. HIVE could only turn the boiler on, while NEST will run the pump for a little longer to "extract" residual heat from the system.
Lastly, both have poor history graphs and both don't offer the "open window" function like TaDo which turns heating off once cold draught is detected.
NEST doesn't worth with smart thermostat valves, not sure about HIVE but I don't think it had this function.
All farsight does is activate the display - it does not turn the heating on/off.
The home/away function is automatic - it is brilliant allows heating to function when a family member is home. You can set it to activate for each family member who has app.
It does have a function to turn on the heating at a low level to prevent the system freezing in cold weather (called ECO TEMPERATURE - you set that level to your choice) but that is a good feature.
Hive does have smart TRV's
Thank you for taking your time out to help us out. I'm new to plumbing, been forced to learn some skills now that I'm a widow! Loved the bathroom makeovers! Learning loads from you so I don't get taken for an idiot wee woman by prospective plumbers! Cheers man. 👩🔧
Excellent video. Looking forward to others.
Excellent. I've had Hive for the last 6years and it's been fine. Did move to Drayton wiser for a short period but didn't like it. Always thought about nest but I wouldn't use the geofencing but does look better
Excellent comparison video. very clear overview on both the products.
Thank you, I am glad you liked it.
@@UrbanPlumbers I am about to buy a Google nest. That's the reason I was watching some review videos. I like yours 👍
Very interesting. I’ve changed my mind about which one to purchase! Thanks.
Happy it helped !
Nice educational videos
I'm training to be gas engineer
I found this channel recently
These are valuable information here 👍
You are welcome !
I self installed a Hive thermostat for me combi boiler and love the simplicity and ease of using it.
Great comparison to help me decide what to buy 👍
Very thorough and clear review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Just found your channel. Really interesting content. All the best.
Welcome aboard!
Great video. Thank you so much for sharing as its very detailed and great help to choose. 👌
As always, really enjoy watching your videos. Cant wait for the next one. Would like to see some more bathroom transformation ones.👍
Bathroom coming next - special one, my own. Should be up in next 10 days.
@@UrbanPlumbers Looking forward to it
I am half way through the edit now. Should be done by next weekend.
Very helpful. I am considering Nest to replace EPH As it is so unreliable and limited functionality. Had also Hive, however it was constantly going off line. Thanks for in depth comparison.
Thanks for the comment. Hive can have problems with wireless range as it is battery powered
a nice simplified explanation of a subject I know nothing about. Due to lock down and medical problems with my wife and I, we are spending more time at home and have 4 different times to set per day is confusing, I just want one that that I set for wake up and bed time the same for all 7 days.
You can do it on both
Great comparison. Could really make use of either for my house!
Not far from the draw, just few more likes !
Great video comparing both products, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Brilliant Video - thank you for such a detailed comparison. Just moved into our first home so hope to win the draw! :)
Good luck!
Good video very informational☺️ looking into one that's simple for my parents as they are getting a oil system put in and that's helped me get a better idea what to look for 👏
Glad it was helpful!
Really liked your video. Great comparison!
Thank you!
Great review! Super interesting and thoughtful
Good video, it has helped me make my mind up on the one to get. Cheers.
Nice one!
It was a good video straight forward and easy to understand - when boiler plus came in (UK) I chose Hive to fit less money and more straight forward to fit - made sense however i switched to nest because I fitted a hive in a rental property but the tenants did not stay there long and when I returned to complete the new landlord certificate I asked the new tenants how they were getting on with Hive they said they were unable to use it via their phones - I offered to help they said I couldn't they understood the tech but had there own internet connected when they moved in and were unable to connect - so contacted Hive who told them they had to do something at there end to allow them to connect to a new router and that would cost them sixty something pounds - good old British Gas - never miss an opportunity - may have backfired on them in this case as I straight away switched allegiance to Nest
Well explained, choosing one of these is much easier now.
glas it was helpful
Good informative presentation. Thank you
Nice vid I’ve gained a heap of knowledge thanks 😊
Wow I leant many things from this video. Thank you :)
You are welcome
Thank you for the video. It has helped me decide on a Nest :)
nice, great I could help
Great video mate. Much appreciated.
I have the Hive system here in the UK with a modern system boiler. Just wanted to point out that if you also buy their range of TRV (smart thermostatic radiator valves) then you can in fact have a multizone system that can control each room individually and it works pretty well. Also you can set the TRV's to automatically control the boiler via a setting called Heat on demand. This means that the rooms themselves tell the boiler to heat up only if the room requires heating. These can all be set on their own schedules which for me is better since I stop worrying that the boiler could remain running. Also if you have a smart meter (i don't) apparently it will monitor the gas usage and report back if you are using more gas than usual. If you don't have a smart meter, you can add your tariff details and it will estimate usage (not so accurate). The only bad thing is that the hot water is not included in this reporting which is a shame. Also you currently can't control the TRV's from the website, only they app. You can boost a single room or a set of rooms based on a routine.
How long do the battery last on the TRVs
@@Molinacaveman Depends how often they are activated, however I installed them just after Black Friday of 2021 and the batteries are still going strong so I suspect from 18months to 2 years. Each TRV has two AA batteries.
@@MolinacavemanI’ve got a tonne of these. About a year for 1.5V alkaline. About 6 months for 1.2V rechargeable.
Thanks for a very informative and useful video
Very informative and balanced review
Both are best. Depends on what you want. I love my Hive at home. With the Rad valves I can control each room individually. Nest is great for a commercial / public spaces. Control each area. It is without a doubt the most intuitive piece of kit. I have never had to explain how to turn up the temperature.
Thanks for the video.
I was looking at the Drayton wiser system for my existing single zoned system which I'm upgrading from oil to gas combi boiler.
I want a system thats simple to install and uses opentherm, it's also important for me to have smart valves to control each room seperately.
Do you know much about the Drayton wiser system?
Excellent video. All the very best fir the future.
Really informative video, thank you
Thanks. A very useful comparison 🎉
Thanks for the video, very useful 👍🏾
Hi Urban Plumber, thanks much for the videos. So if Nest's OpenTherm doesn't modulate System Boilers, what would be the compatible one for the like of Viessman Vitodens-100w? Thanks a mil.
Great video, thank you for this - It's nice to see a detailed review of both products
My pleasure!
Great info, comparison video. 👍🏾
Very informative. Thanks for making a useful video.
Excellent video. Love your channel 👍🏻
Thanks !
I would really love to "win" this fabulous thermostat. I am a lady Pensioner, but I CAN work "smart" devices, as I am quite "tech savvy" for an older Gal. Lol. I have an Amazon Echo Plus, which was a present to me 2 years ago. I use it all day, every day. I have a Combi Boiler, so I only need heating control, not water, so this one you have would be perfect for me. My boiler receiver and thermostat is not working properly, so I have got to buy a new one - and pay for the installation. Unfortunately, I could NOT afford to buy one as wonderful as this one you are gifting to someone. Fingers crossed I can win this Hive - Lol. Great video!! Very clearly explained, with no nonsense or faffing about.....straight to all the important points and the video covers ALL aspects. I understood your video completely. I've watched this video four times now!! Lol. Thank you so much.
alright Teddy, you are the last person to be included in the draw! I am just about to reocrd the draw now
Very informative, thanks for sharing
Nest overall is in my opinion definitely the best. Nest just needs to upsize the terminals. I actually use Wago connectors to make it easier to add the common links from L to 2 & 5 because the terminals are a bit small for more than 1 conductor.
The terminals are a frickin MARE!
Helpful video. Thanks
Hi, we have various wiring installed for zone Thermostats. Do we still need these or does this one unit replace the need for the Thermostats?