Everything Wrong With Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2016
- Back in 2001 they made an animated Final Fantasy movie that hardly resembled the games it was "based" on. Also it was kind of boring and muddled. So here are it's sins!
Next week: Another video game movie & a 2015 hit film.
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To be fair, anyone with any knowledge of animation salutes this movie. Man, SOOOOooo much progress was made with it! Everyone should bow to the animators for basically doing the world a favor. It's like Web 1.0 to 2.0.
Agreed, it hurt my soul when Jeremy kept bashing the animation.
The movie still isn’t good, at all.
Did anyone ever ask why the soldiers wear complex, bulky,heavy, presumably expensive, armor when the phantoms pass through with no effort at all?
To protect from stray shots from allies. Phantoms could pop out from nowhere so they could suddenly be in the line of fire requiring their allies to shoot in their general direction to save them from the soul sucking monsters. It is better than nothing and getting shot like what happens to the guy at 11:00 when he got it by stray fire aimed at a Phantom.
@@Riku-zv5dk What you said, I agree with.
Or why do planets have metal on them and/or in them in the first place? At least we can verify metal exists let alone the spiritual world like in this movie. Didn't think the plot was that great though. Watched this twice now.
According to the lore, the gear it's mostly for: A) Combat; B) possible hazards outside of the Barrier Cities and such
It was to conceal the reveal of them
you know what was wrong with this movie.....CALLING IT FINAL FANTASY
they should have just called it The Spirits Within
Ik, how is this final fantasy? after ~3 the games sucked let alone any other form of media.
Agreed! I was expecting so much more with the title Final Fantasy.
agreed
Is your question because it's not like one of the games you have played or a general question because you honestly don't know? There have been several Final Fantasy animated movies since the 1990's and only one bore any resemblance to one of the games. This is completely par for the course for one of those movies. I can't say I found any of them particularly enjoyable.
wow the CGI held up extremely well 15 years later, that's Square Enix graphics for ya lol
better than a lot of stuff you see now
idiot..
Vinny0942 ???
Vinny0942 baka!
Jack Hazardous idiot.....
This movie was made in 2001 like you said. The animation was the best we had seen at the time. I remember they put Aki on the cover of maxim magazine and people couldn't even tell she was animated.
Video game movies need to get it together!
Exactly
Agreed
FF7-Advent Children was pretty good.
The Ratchet and Clank movie was good.
lol this is not a video game movie
I love how CinemaSins and ProJared both have the same reaction to the, "Then what are they? Ghosts?"
WHY WOULD YOU CALL THEM PHANTOMS IF YOU DIDN'T THINK THEY'RE GHOSTS?!
I remember watching this with a friend and in the beginning I made the joke
"if this is Final Fantasy, someone is gonna kiss someone or say I love you then BOOM dead."
and I'll be damned if it didnt happen.
This is why you don't do cocaine before a big meeting. XD
Lol, true dat!
why it helps
"And tonight's speech, "Our friend, the Amphetamine." I mean, "Why can't Johnny blink?"
*ding*
If the rumors are to be believed: it's a helluva drug.
If this movie had dropped the Final Fantasy from the title, I'm almost certain it would have been better received on all fronts.
Chances are they named it that for it to get more attention
without the final fantasy in the title, no one would have watched it or cared that it existed. its only fanbase are the hardcore FF fans who will lap up anything with that name on it
The reason Final Fantasy is in the title is because it is to sell this movie, it would be better received but I bet it won't get sold better.
The visuals were bland (after you get past the "omg so realistic" part) and the story was boring
Duh doy
As someone from Tucson, I can say that it is 100% a wasteland. Especially in summer.
At least we've got the monsoon season which decides to turn said wasteland into a flooded, muddy mess.
True. We also have Eegees.
Used to live in Arizona, had to move a year ago, still miss the eegees :C.
N3rdrushh
I moved last year. I also miss the eegees. :'(
missystar013
I remember when this movie came out, I was just starting college and I was going for a degree in computer animation. I decided on that because I've always been artistic, and when I first saw the CG cutscenes in Final Fantasy 7, I decided "THAT is what I want to do! I want to go into animation!!" So fast forward to 2001, and I'm just learning animation, and this movie came out, so it was very fitting that I go see it.
After the movie, I remember thinking "Wow! This was something special! This will either inspire other animators about how amazing their work can become, or it will discourage them that they could never make CGI as good as this."
Funny how just a few years later, we got real-time video games that were just as good if not better in terms of visuals and realism than this, and how our CGI has far surpassed this movie, making the movie look very dated in comparison. And, as much as the plot of this movie didn't make sense, and that it looks crude compared to today's standards, it still holds a special place in my heart for how amazed I was sitting in that theater.
So hate all you want on this, I still say it's a decent and entertaining movie, and it really pushed the envelope for full-length CGI movies for the time. Remember this was back in 2001!!
Suhkma Dheek Yeah, definitely the old doctor looks much more realistic. That's mainly due to when in CG you make things look old, wrinkled, flawed, they look more realistic.
Suhkma Dheek LMAO!
Im seeing this on a mobile screen, but the animation isnt so bad, for an A- video game maybe
HailtotheKiin
For it's time it was definitely state-of-the-art. For today's standards though, yeah it's a decent pre-rendered game cinematic at best. Heck, even some games today don't do their cinimatics all that well!
Did you land your dream job, internet stranger?
Still waiting for "Everything Wrong With 'Hancock'"
lmao....
what the fuck did you just say
Agreed☺
Well everything was wrong with this so no need lol
Hancock? I'm still waiting for them to sin Buckaroo Banzai!
Final Fantasy: Spirits Within. I don't care what anybody says, that's one of the best sci-fi films ever made.
Looked for that comment, and found it. you have my like!
Don't you forget about me..
Thank you!
I remember when I first saw this! I always thought they were real people until my dad told me they weren't
LMAO!
...What the? Are you blind or just young
+VicariousReality7 I was like 7 or 8! Don't judge me lol
VicariousReality7 don't be so hard on the kid, lol.
+LetMeWork HEY! I am 19!! I'm grown af
I don't care what everyone says, I thoroughly enjoyed this film.
Is that a life is strange quote?
Good for you :P
@@eddiemeddie2018 i also enjoyed it.
I also liked the film as a kid and the story was okay
other than the sudden death of the side characters though
My prediction for next week:
Doom and The Revenant
Oooh, I wanna see that Doom film get Movie Sinned!
...DOOT!
+Tony Davis (Battlion50) eh it was fun to watch
I say Hitman or Postal
Doom copied the plot and everything of the Aliens 1986 movie.
EVERYTHING WRONG WITH DEADPOOL! NOW NOW! DO IT NOW! >:C
Saying it like that, he probably won't.
Joseph Joestar Posting it on every one of his videos that he makes is getting a little tiresome. 5 videos in, I started to wonder if caps would get his attention :D
It may get annoying to the point of "No. I'm not doing it."
Featuring Deadpool.
But there's nothing wrong with deadpool
this movie had amazing animation for that time. just the story was crap.
Malefizia as a child i could barely comprehend the difference between this and actual reality.
It's funny because the story is nearly identical to FF7 with a few changes, but people say FF7's story is great and Spirits Within's is terrible.
Quail In FF7 you could kill things. And compaired to FF13 FF7 does have a great story.
They shouldn't have betrayed the "fantasy" part for grimdark dudebro crap that they thought the West wanted
Pretty sure FF characters are mostly have variation (eventhough most of them are cliche) instead of just a couple of army soldiers going together. That's kind of what i like about FF.
I watched this movie several times when it came out (give me a break I was 12) and I don't remember _any_ of this shit.
Same.
I don't blame you, it was a forgettable film lol
I researched it last year just to remind myself of what this movie was about... My conclusion? "Shit". To put it simply.
I watched it in the cinema back then and I swear I didn't remember a single thing except the main character was a woman.
well, I watched it when I was small, and I liked it a lot
Sharky Prodiver I liked a lot of things when I was smaller and I go back and see they are shit
i like this movie, the biggest mistake of the this was the name, this is not a movie based on the video games series
agree
But... But... they used words like gaia, and spirits, and Cid is a character, so it HAS TO BE FINAL FANTASY!
They pumped so much money into this movie that it would never make a profit selling it without a brand name on it. Even with a brand name... it still sank Squaresoft XD
Each Final Fantasy game is different. Why does a movie have to be based on one of them? Can't the movie just have it's own story.
yeah? how?
Do everything wrong with ToyStory3
yes
June 15, 2018
+Sophia Brandt Boi
+Sophia Brandt Did you not hear them anounce it a while back? Not joking at all.
+Sophia Brandt Toy Story 4 is coming out in 2018. It was announced last year. There will also be a Cars 3 and an Incredibles 2.
"I'm going to get a bruise if they keep hitting me over the head with exposition" = hilarious :)
Final Fantasy: The Phantom Menace....
,😲
Good one 😂
"I don't care what anyone says, Final Fantasy: Spirits Within is one of the best sci-fi films ever made"-Max Caulfield
Can't Gaia send Captain Planet to save Old New York City?
UHF MGTOW No need. WALL-E's looking after it, and she trusts him pretty well.
So, CG done so well in 2001 that it looks like it was made in 2010 is a sin ?!?!**clicking the back button**
uncanny valley
This definitely doesn't look as good as Avatar from 2009
Cinemasins It is already a very good time to make Everything wrong with Zootopia now that it is on DVD!
Yes please!
They did Zootopia already.
"She told me that she was ready to die." Looks like she had a Biggie fan on her hands.
Meow?
And then she said, "B that is, I that is, Gee whiz, muthafuckas still in my biz."
How prophetic for a child so young.
+wafflcoptr Meow.
+wafflcoptr lol
It's crazy how beautiful this movie still is considering it's 15 years old. It was SO well done! That said, I really liked this movie, yeah it's weird and kookie but I still love it! I didn't like Advent Children near as much.. I think that was marketed entirely to people who have played final fantasy 7, which I have not, so I don't have nostalgia to make that movie better. Also RE: This doesn't resemble any of the games -- the genius of the final fantasy franchise is that it doesn't really have to. Final Fantasy means more "Fantasy genre game with a long amazingly written story" more than a specific thing, as each game is totally disconnected from every other game, and it still works.. that's why they're able to release so many lol
Advent Children is dumb...
the why square went bankrupt....and haste the merging with enix
This actually resembles FF7 in several ways. Both feature the concept of a living planet, both have an alien threat that crashes into the planet causing a crater, and both have militaristic antagonists that fire super weapons on said craters.
Yeah, but they usually have some recurring creatures like Chocobos and Cactuars and all that. This movie does not, which is kinda weird.
DO EVERYTHING WRONG WITH THE 5TH WAVE
I want them to do that one too!
+Antoine Mason yes!! have you read the books? I just finished rereading the first two and am now reading the last star for the first time. but I just watched the movie after rereading the 5th wave & was sooooooo disappointed in it.
crys reed I haven't read the books yet
+Antoine Mason omg you should! they're absolutely brilliant and so much better than the movie
It's really easy--very, very, very high.
One of my favorite childhood sci-fi movies, sad to see it get bashed. This movie inspired a lot of people to pursue animation in 2001.
Cinema Sins exists to poke fun at movies in a humorous way, so their commentary shouldn't be taken too seriously.
"The Spirits Within" had its definite flaws, but with the advantage of 22 years of hindsight, it's now mostly remembered for its impressive (for 2001) CGI. That, and its role in making a lot of children vaguely uncomfortable because their parents didn't realize that it would be a film juxtaposing life and death.
@@NyanCatHerder Your totally right, I personally loved this when I was a kid so it just hurt still lol
What movie involving Andrew Stanton and Peter Docter is Cinemasins referencing as being this movie, but with less dialogue and story but more interesting?
Wall-E.
+CWamvs 88 Watch out, we have a badass over here!
yeah, plus one
Are you gonna do Advent Children too?
hopefully.
But... it was barely even a film... this at least had some kind of cohesive narrative.
Advent Children was basically just a show reel of random characters with no introduction.
"I need an adult?"
That's because it expected you to have already played 7 and crisis core, and then roll with what's left. Can't say Dirge, because Cloud's back to his normal self in Dirge. He's moody in Advent Children and in the Kingdom Hearts series.
Because Advent Children is a follow up to the events of FF7 and Crisis Core. It has a story but makes no sense if you did not play the two games.
The guy that died at 11:00 in the video didn't get killed by the phantoms, he got shot by a soldier that was getting killed by the phantoms.
A bit late but that is why the soldiers wear such thick heavy armour. It is not to protect from phantoms but to protect from stray friendly fire. When up against an enemy that literally pop up in the middle of your group from underground at any point, or any direction for that matter, it is very easy for stray shots to go towards allies.
HOW CAN YOU NOT SIN THE EASTER EGG THRILLER DANCE / OUTTAKES?!
I remember watching this movie as a kid on my psp and i had absolutely no idea what was happening
ooh now do final fantasy advant children
They should do Advent Children Complete. It's ... better. That's all I can think to say.
yes
They would triple not understand what the fuck is going on...
+ Tearonex Maybe they would. Their "hobbit" video would indicate tha one of them has at least played ff7. Although I don't know if that stuff matters to them or not. I don't know.
I saw AC, then played 7, still understood it pretty well.
The real teat jerker for me was Crisis Core: FF7. That one had some pretty good mechanics and the story was so relatable. Like it feels like that's the emotional trauma an actual soldier would go through.
The RUclipsrs sin call almost made me spit my drink! Well done CS, well done indeed!
You missed the biggest one.
Humans have easy ubiquitous orbital travel, but no one ever thought of just abandoning the surface of the planet and fucking off into space.
is that guy Raif Adler
LOL
Yep. Lol
Rafe Adler isn't in this
yup
For those who didn't get it, the end of the movie is the ghost of the other planet being brought back to life and returning to space. That's what the beam was.
... that's dumb as shit. I appreciate the explanation (and it kinda makes sense in this turdpile), but that's just all sorts of stupid
I like it. Although I wish people wouldn't shit on this movie so much. This wasn't some blatant cash grab like TMNT or Robocop 2014. There was so much love and hard work that went into films like this and the story was so original and interesting. They pushed the boundaries of what was possible and for that alone they should be commended.
Plus it was probably better in it's original Japanese. Dubbing was still shit even back then.
I fucking love Final Fantasy, but that movie was a Sin.
11:05 he's not bleeding because of the phantom, he's bleeding because the other guy accidentally shot him :)
They don't care, they're just looking for anything to point fun at.
I remember watching this as a kid.. this brings back so many memories
I LOVE THE ANGEL DEVIL BIT WHEN U DRAW ON THEM I COULDNT STOP LAUGHING AT HOW BLUE AND RED LMAO
4:36 - 4:39 : Is it me or is he completely hammered ?
To be fair, that CG is actually pretty great for 2001. Though I still do not buy Steve Buscemi as looking like that.
Everything wrong with Zootopia!!!!
Everything.
+TechNomad zootopia was good
+K Waykins they also do good films
Yeeeeeeeeeeees everything wrong with zootopia, or as it is known as in the UK (where I come from) zootropolis
+Robert Curley so y isnt Metropolis called Metropia
Whenever I see the phantoms war scene, the "points of authority" music video pops in my head.
*Tidus laughing in the distance*
^this comment
Everything wrong with Shrek...
Just do it already!!!
How does a 2001 movie have this realistic animation?
because Squaresoft / Spare Pictures
Watch Kingsglaive trailers, it's better than most CGI in Hollywood nowadays
because square soft/square enix is awesome at animation. Some of the scenes from final fantasy X and kingdom hearts are awesome, and they were made around the same time
Squaresoft (Now called Square Enix) has the best CGI engines. They're latest movie, Kingsglaive has damn near realistic visuals and even have the same CGI in some cutscenes for Final Fantasy XV.
Still holds up decently well. In some shots you can hardly tell it's CGI. Sad thing is though, they poured so much money into this film's CGI to make CGI characters look like super realistic humans, they probably could've spent less money just using real humans and putting the money to the environment and green screens haha
This is definitely one of the most technically impressive films of its time. A shame it flopped. Just for reference, when the film was in development, they were using SGI workstations and servers for CGI development and rendering because competing hardware wasn't powerful enough. As ubiquitous as nVidia is as a graphics namesake nowadays, it hadn't even released consumer graphics adapters at the time.
Movie makes Squaresoft go bankrupt, force it to merge with Enix, and stop making good games *add 1.000.000 sins
That's 100 sins for each hair on Aki's head!
Sorry, but... I have never watched this movie, and what does this have to do with Final Fantasy?
exactly.
name gaia is only thing
Nothing, at that was its biggest problem.
Yea, i watched this movie once and I didnt care for it at all. Advent Children is the better movie (but so confusing. I found the special edition which included more scenes and it explained things a little better).
DudeHunder
Oh wow.
Here is the main reason whats wrong with this movie. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FINAL FANTASY!!!
And what has to do the story of ff7 and the story of ... ff8 or any other ffs ? :)
What is Final Fantasy exactly? Every single game is set in a different universe than the next. The only thing that carries over from each game are summons, the chocoboes and flying airships
Not true, lots of games share the same universe or planet just hundreds of years apart, or not that many years apart (XII is set in Tactics world). This movie had LOTS of different existing universes, yet they chose to create a new one, so the people who played the games feel alienated.
Don Tuerto Well ok, some of their games is set in the same universe, but by enlarge when they create a new final fantasy it's a new universe. This movie was never meant for the people playing the games. It was meant as a movie for the western audience made by the same people who made Final Fantasy. Their next movie was made exclusively for the people who had been playing their games, and thus came out as a glorified fanservice (not in the "we show underwear" type of fanservice, but as in they only made it for the people whining about wanting to see more of ff7)
Final Fantasy XIII proved that Square Enix only really wants to make movies anyway, the problem is that they're not that great at it. I didn't think this movie was terrible, but you do have to pretty much just ignore the plot holes and take it all for granted, which is a sound strategy with a lot of Final Fantasy games too so in that respect it's most definitely part of the series ;)
Loved this film, don't understand why you think it had no story. Thought it built an excellent world, with ghosts an marines in exo-suits falling into green goo. Spooked me out when I was younger first watching it in the cinema. Another good EWW!
For a minute there i thought this turned into Gaming sins.
I actually still really like this movie, although Advent Children was better.
RUclipsrs have no souls/spirits...
Do...do you not understands the point of the channel?
@@thatguyintherain3168 Yo leave my stupid comment alone lol. And yes try understanding jokes
You TOTALLY miss the mark! I think Spirits Within is a movie so ahead of its time, and I love it.
Was amazing CGI for its time though.I must have watched this movie a dozen times. Granted I was younger, but now I wanna re watch it!!
Only Jeremy can complain about too much exposition AND not knowing what's going on.
So are you going to do Advent Children next?
Not going to lie, I greatly enjoyed this movie when I was younger, still do.
Its not bad, but is not "final fantasy", just other fantasy. hehe
Yeah, doesn't look AS BAD as I'd have expected from a pre-2015 vidjima game film.
well, you were an idiot as a kid
Of all the videos you have made, how is this one not an hour long?
Every time i hear the villain talk, all i hear is Hades. And i can't take it seriously XD
Archer Bennington me too
Wow I remember seeing this movie in theater as a young kid. And I also remember having serious trouble distinguishing whether or not those were real actors or just cgi characters. seeing it now it's totally obvious.
Do Everything Wrong With Atlantis The Lost Empire next, it would actually be really cool
I don't care what anybody says, that's one of the best sci-fi films ever made.
"No one has ever said that. Ever."
WHOA i was shocked you did this! I saw this when i was a kid and LOVED it! :D
As a kid, I used to love every single movie I watched, no matter how bad it was, I always found something positive about it. Going into FF Spirits Within, I was super amped but this movie is notable to me because it's the first movie that I actually HATE with a passion. It was such a boring, non-sensical movie that I found absolutely nothing positive about it. It also set a new era in which I find many movies with too many flaws to enjoy. I think this movie killed movies for me. Thanks a lot FF Spirits Within.
I also saw this movie as a kid. I remember *NOTHING* of it.....
@@Twinrehz It wasn't set to be a kids movie, but a movie for young adults.
@@cn8299 I was a kid when I watched this and had never played a FF game. When I did play a FF game I expected it to be this kind of stuff and I was glad it wasn't. FFX was the game.
I remember watching this with my dad a few times as a kid. We had it on a vhs tape. I actually remembered it quite fondly.
VHS was still around in 2001?!
@@Justforvisit hell yeah it was. Crazy to think about
i remember seeing this movie years ago when i was young i really loved it and after ive grown i had it in the back of my mind as a dream but i still went out to look for it and now.. my mission is complete
Best line here, "That no shit soldier would be excellent at CinemaSins."
I don't care what anyone says. This is still one of the best sci-fi films ever made.
~ Max Caulfield.💫
Am with you on that one, truly uniwue albeit not FF but who cares. The director dedicated it to his mom whom passed away which is also sweet
"this is all starting to make a creepy kind of sense" CinemaSins says "Is it tho" at the same time I do lol
Im gonna go check to see if you guys did advent children
Nope.
Do Freddy Got Fingered!!!!
Anthony Nunez
im good
totally thinking that too
They probably never will since it's not considered a real movie.
'Cause, y'know, it was made by the actual video game people.
A Final Fantasy movie without any chocobos.
Ding!
And barely any fantasy.
Movies you should sin (If you have already sinned one of them, My Apologies
-Wreck It Ralph
-Shrek
-Puss N Boots(Dreamworks)
-Rise of The Guardians (Dreamworks)
-Batman vs Superman
-Men In Black Trilogy
-Suicide Squad
-Turbo (The snail racing one)
Suicide squad didn't come out yet...
I'm pretty sure he's done Wreck it Ralph and I know he's done at least MI3. But other than that I agree.
"I don’t care what anybody says, Final Fantasy: Spirits Within is one of the best sci-fi films ever made."
Oh yeah, that was from Life is Strange. Lol
Do FF7 advent children!
That moment when Uncharted 4 looks better then the CGI-dream- movie of my childhood.
This movie is what... 2001? Unchattd 2016
Yeah, sick how the time flies.
Don't care what anyone says, this movie was bomb as hell. People wanted it to be too much like the games, I think it was awesome as a stand alone movie having nothing to do with the FF lore. Also "The Dream Within" by Lara Fabian is the hypest song ever.
>Just ding this shit without commentary
That has to be one of the most bizarre CinemaSins meta-references ever.
May you please review Everything Wrong With Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, thank you.
should not be titled Final Fantasy. Just Spirits Within.
Everything wrong with Sharknado
Despite of all the sins, this movie is really enjoyable. The graphic was the best back in 2001 and you may find that philosophy behind the story is actually very deep, if you are open-minded enough.
i enjoyed this quite a lot to. You just have to get past the "Final Fantasy" aspect of the movie lol
The time until surgical failure and why you don't so cocaine before an important meeting lines had me dying
I dunno man. Max Caulfield says that this is one of the best Sci Fi movies ever.
Was a fun film for sure, just wasn't a Final Fantasy :)
You forgot to sin it for nearly bankrupting Squaresoft
Everything Wrong With Sharknado
Theres nothing wrong with Sharknado : D
Honestly Sharknado is exactly what it wants to be. It's just that what it wants to be is a terrible movie.
Everything wrong in sharknado is everything that is right in sharknado
That wouldn't be "in X minutes or less", more like an episode of MST3k.
2 years too late but I think it’d break the sin counter... again...
This is.. surprisingly good. I mean the movie ITSELF might not be but holy f*cking sh*t dude, look at how the characters move. They actually have believable human movements, their eyes flit around instead of remaining perfectly set on whatever they're looking at, much like a real human. They have small mannerisms or quirks that they display in their dialogues or general behavior. The expressions are believable, the lip-syncing is phenomenal all things considered. That's really freaking cool considering this movie is now SIXTEEN YEARS OLD.
Are we gonna get a 'Everything wrong with Silent Hill'?
I honestly bet if they had just called the Movie Spirits Within(Maybe with a ": Final Fantasy" chaser subtitle) it wouldn't have had the severe a backlash it did, but then again, Nerds are dangerous when attacking enzerg.
There is never not a Final Fantasy movie or game without someone named Sid/Cid.
I'm going to get a bruise if they keep beating me over the head with exposition. That line killed me xD
Thank you Aki Ross for helping me through puberty lols.