Everything Wrong With Star Wars: The Last Jedi
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi is one of the most divisive movies of the 21st century. Most people either really love it or really hate it. But regardless of which side you land on, one thing is obvious: it has plenty of sins.
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Geh.
You should make another channel called musician mistakes and critique the lyrics
CinemaSins do Star Trek, the 2009 one
No, you just wanted more views. Admit it.
I literally watched the original yesterday. Come on.
How many sins for Rose saving animals but leaving the slave-children to rot?
Oh yeah, because most of you RUclipsrs would sooner try to feed a crying baby than pet a miniature horse with open scars
@@simple-commentator-not-rea7345 I've raised my children. Luckily they have more sense than you seem to...
@@simple-commentator-not-rea7345 Lol, I would kick the horses off a cliff than save the kids.
Take the kids where? On the ship? Will there be room? How do they know they won't disrupt the mission? And if they did take them, why would they bring it back to a dying rebel fleet? You people hate on this movie for the most retarded reasons and give no thought to it. Use your brain.
@@welcome2wyzard the fact that none of those reasons were mentioned in the movies shows that whoever wrote it didnt give a shit about that plot hole. A simple "we'll come back for you" would have fixed the whole thing
I intended to watch this all the way to the end.
But I ran out of fuel.
Should have made sure you had enough fuel to just watch a little bit more and quicker than the person behind you. They would chase you for about 2 plus hours. They Should make a movie like that. Be great cinema lol.
hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
I think that's what happened when I was watching this movie....
Uts always the fuel ...
-1 sin for this comment.
"everything wrong with the last Jedi"
**Plays entire movie**
Star Wars The Last Jedi, but everytime it is a good movie, it speeds up.
*plays movie in regular time*
@@SomeRandomGuy789 it should have been in slow mo
@@SomeRandomGuy789 *movie plays in slow mo*
Literally, the entire movie is wrong.
I mean it's better than force awakens
My two biggest problems in this movie are these:
-Holdo not telling Poe that they even had a plan. She didn't even have to tell him the plan, she could have just told him that they did have a plan. That way Poe didn't have to start a mutiny.
-Rose preventing Finn for sacrificing himself to save thousands of lives. THOUSANDS OF LIVES.
Um, what reason did Holdo have to tell Poe? She was stood down by Leia, so she actually had a reason to not tell Poe.
For the second one, explain to me what a broken down, decades-old, piece of junk speeder do to a heavily armored cannon that was obviously designed to be resistant to enemy attacks. Go in. I’ll wait for an explanation.
@@averagenoah Finn was flying right into the laserthingy, he definetly would have done some damage.
Like...imagine a metal projectile (albeit being just some loosely connected metal trash) flying with high velocity directly into a gun barrel, before exploding because it also holds fuel tanks - which are suddenly relevant, as the movie tries to point out. It would deform it at least a little bit.
@@averagenoah Because Poe takes matters into his own hands and does reckless things, which they point out when scolding him for his plan with the bombing fleet. Of all people, he is the most likely to make his own plan, which might interfere with the plan they have, and Holdo knows it. All she had to say was “yes, we have a plan. I can’t tell you what it is because we think there’s a spy. But we definitely have a plan, so don’t go doing anything reckless”. And that would’ve saved countless resistance members.
As for the speeder, the cannon stores energy then fires it. So presumably, the fuel tanks of the ship exploding combined with a high speed metal projectile would be enough to cause said energy to be released as an explosion, destroying the cannon, and maybe other First Order vehicles nearby. Now fair enough, we can’t accurately measure the durability of a fictional cannon, but the energy must’ve been stored somewhere. And if it’s as powerful as it’s portrayed to be, then most of the physical cannon besides the hole bit that fires would’ve been for storing energy rather than armour.
But ultimately, the bottom line is that Finn was going to sacrifice himself for something that might’ve worked while Rose almost killed herself stopping something that might’ve worked.
@@averagenoah Disney femboy, Finn could easily have destroyed it. Well if he couldnt have destroyed it how come Holdo managed to cut Snokes ship in half? Does that make sense?
@@azacct9854 This movie doesn’t make sense.
“You’re telling me that the force can teleport matter now?”
Wait until this guy gets a load of The Rise of Skywalker
Yeah, what a fucking mess. A true disappointment.
The last jedi was a bigger mess than the rise of skywalker
@@gustavosouzasoares True, but EP9 was destroyed because of this one. It could have been so fucking cool...but no, Johnsen had to fuck it all over for "I DONT CARE! I DO WANT I WANT!"
@@Fion355 RoS was straight up, nothing but damage control. They did the best with what they could, but holy fuck was it disappointing.
I heard this today “ No one hates Star Wars like the people who love Star Wars”. I loved the Rise of Skywalker, but it seems that ‘Real Star Wars fans’ seem to hate it. It also depends on age. Revenge of the Sith was made the year after I was born, so I grew up with those already knowing both spoilers. This is the Trilogy I got to see I’m my own, and I love the 7 and 9, but 8 is problematic. I definitely like J.J. better than Rian.
Rose: “Hey! I saved your life!”
Finn: “You didn’t save my life, you ruined my death!”
Well said xD
To every douchebag adult in my life, "You took away my future!"
Incredibles reference
Roll incredibles credits
Incredibles, that you?
Evan Clarizio A reference from a much better and more original movie.
Luke throwing the lightsaber away should have been at least 1,000 sins.
The saving what we love line should have been 1,000, and the kiss should have been 10,000.
Every second of this movie should have been at least 1,000 sins. That would equate to 9,120 sins... still not enough :/
No it was good like not this sentimental shit again
@@Howlingburd19 why does everyone fucking hate this movie?
@@andrewjones9547 because it’s garbage and it destroyed the legacy of Luke
Honestly I expected him to say “all of it” and then play memes for the rest of the time
All of Rose's actions make sense if she's an agent for the First Order.
that would be an amazing twist
I hope that’s the truth and she gets shot in the first minute of rise of skywalker
Not really, but it does make more sense if you consider she was saving the cannon and not Finn.
She *is* a mechanic, after all. What do mechanics love more than machines?
@@CthulhuTheory sure she does know there a an army is in front of her right like what the point if ur freakin dead and also pretty sure they would have died in the crash
@@bradley8148 well yeah, she basically t-boned Finn at incredible speeds, so they're lucky nobody broke a neck.
121 - Last Jedi
129 - Empire Strikes Back.
I have no faith in you anymore.
Well Last Jedi is clearly worse, and looong, but it has so much less in it.
400k starwars part 1 my faith in this channel us in tatters
You know this is sarcasm right?
I find the lack of faith in you disturbing
When you have millions of subscribers and Disney pays you off even you would say, fuck me Rian Johnson is a cinematic genius.
The title is almost correct. *_Everything IS wrong with Star Wars: The Last Jedi_*
The last Jedi was Luke. It should've ended there.
Bro stfu. I'm irritated seeing comments like this😒
@Keith1974 change your diaper? Thats the best you got?😂
@@linkyboi5961 well then you should stay out of the comment section because the Star Wars fanbase (I love Star Wars but it’s true) is known for being very very very toxic
@@Howlingburd19 I hate how toxic it is
How did Finn drag roses unconscious body all the back to that resistance base without being killed?
That’s the real question here that and with the power of moving matter through the force and yet Luke died being a hologram like wtf
Furthermore, how were both Finn and Rose able to get so close to the First Order army without even being shot at once?
the first order realised their opposition would be weaker with those two assholes in it
@@nikoniortnike Here´s the Answer: Plot Armor
It takes them FOREVER to get out, takes them about 5 minutes to “walk” back?
Basicaly this entire movie was just a chase scene.
Yes
Mad max in space
MyUsersDark The empire strikes back for poor
MyUsersDark #MadMaxFuryRoad ammi right?
As a concept that could have worked and been very interesting, honestly, it just... wasn't.
Biggest plothole: Luke wants to be left alone, yet left a secret map so that he could be found.
I know. Stupid shit to add into the movie.
@@bossshun9 it just highlights how they had no clue what they were doing, plot wise.
Luke didn't leave the map tho. The old dude we see in the opening of TFA created the map, I think. There are comics about it
@@iliasfilip2110 You shouldn’t have to read comics to understand what’s going on in the movie lol
@@gusmarin6031 That's true, I agree
Holdo's hyperspace maneuver should count. It completely breaks prior established rules about hyperspace travel. Hyperspace travel is not going really fast, it's jumping into another dimension, so her ship shouldn't have been able to crash into the First Order's ships. Otherwise at the ending of Rogue One where the rebels are escaping into hyperspace and then Vader's ship appears right in front of them should have resulted in multiple collisions.
I am sure he knows that, he did mention it doesn't make any sense. He only removed sins because of the visuals
I mean if the “Holdo Maneuver” was real then why did the empire spend trillions on a planet destroyer instead of sending a star destroyer into a planet instead. It’s an obvious, “this movie is such shit, we need a semi cool shot to make it look better.”
@@gingeridous859 exactly. This is clearly the most effective space weapon ever conceived in Star Wars, other than plot armour, and would make nearly every other weapons system obsolete. Have a planet you need to take out? Lightspeed ram. Capital ship approaching? Lightspeed kamikaze some x-wings at it. They don't even need to be piloted, or expensive. Attach a hyperdrive onto a tungsten rod = lightspeed rail gun. Maybe too expensive to be ubiquitous, but certainly would become a centrepiece of galactic strategy.
Attack from distance of light-hours or light- minutes from the target, then hyperdrive yourself to another location and do it again. Could bring a system down with a dozen ships in a week or two.
@@EarlofSedgewick But even below lightspeed such a weapon would make a lot of sense. A tungsten rod at 99% lightspeed would also basically obliterate a planet.
Also since the first trilogy (I think it was ROTJ) showed that star destroyers have a hard time turning around/swerving aside, even a 50% lightspeed tungsten rod would be able to hit them and turn them to dust.
Also also the Super Star Destroyer colliding with Death Star 2 must've had a very low relative speed or it wouldn't have been turned to dust but outright destroyed the latter.
@@magicmulder this is all true. If anyone thought about this universe from a hard science fiction lens, there are some obviously massive problems. For instance, near- lightspeed accelerators would an obvious weapon to at least contemplate, given distances. But there are lots of reasons why this might quickly been blunted, which could be a bit bullshitted, just to make it a bit more cohesive, and not a ungrounded fantasy adventure world where people don't make decisions based on the rules of their universe, but rather the rules of whatever production team wants as a set-piece, visual, plot device, etc
That bit of Leia ordering Poe to disengage, and Holdo blaming Poe for the mission, is made all the more infuriating when it was revealed that Holdo was the one who brought the bombers. And they were brought SOLELY for the purpose of attacking the Dreadnaught.
Snoke was completely useless.
Almost as useless as Finn's side story.
or rose getting the entire resistance killed because "you dont kill what you hate"
or admiral gender studies causing all the internal conflict that could have been defused with a 10 second explanation (not like there was a reason for the plan to be secret)
or how all space battles have been rendered pointless as all hyperdrive ships are now superweapons
@@bushie09 Nah, it's not exactly a good strat to use suicide bomber tactics, particularly not in actual space battles where, you know, there's fighters and shit moving around and not just sitting there.
@@KaitouKaiju you....you cannot be this dumb....
*After reading the Phasma Novel I hate TLJ even more, Finn defeating Phasma makes no sense.*
-Or the side plot with Luke
-Or the side plot with Holdo
-Or the “build-up” of Phasma
-Or BB-8 in general
-Or perhaps the entire movie...
We all know this movie deserves more sins.
But Cinemasins ran out of fuel
The biggest and greatest sin of all is how poorly written these movies actually were. Seriously!!! There is an entire f***king Star Wars universe built on by fans since the creation of Star Wars!!!! Whose potential is by far infinitely greater than the plots of these f***ing sequels. Which by the way are so lazily written that they not only repeated the plot of the first movie in the first sequel movie but also threw a whole bunch of plot armor and a whole lot of other bullsh*t that they dare call f***ing a plot and labeled it the second Star Wars sequel movie!!!!!!!!!! It’s a F***ING DISGRACE and should have never been created!!!!
RedRabbitRum iK as i star wars fan i hate these star wars Disney films, at least we have rouge one
captain drama
Thank you. It's maddening that people are upset about the fuel. Of course these ships use fuel they're f*cking space ships. Did people just think they worked by magic? There are problems with this movie but the fuel is not it.
RedRabbitRum I get that this trilogy ignored some source material, but not every piece of content in and about Star Wars has to be entirely based on ONLY the first three movies. Not everything about the Force has to be a Force-push and a mind trick, and not everything about hyper-fast space travel has to be just straight from point A to point B. I think they actually introduced some neat new stuff with the Force and with hyperspace, with the dyad and the lightspeed-skipping and the telekinetic freezing-in-place and the mental-absorption-via-telepathy AND THE F*CKING LIGHTSPEED KAMIKAZE. If anything, three movies is enough source material to go on for the story, but just isn’t for the content, and I feel that’s one of the only things they did right. But then again, I’m one of the asshole kids who grew up as this trilogy did, so what do I know when compared to “real fans”?
@@tomduckworth6430 The big point wasn't the fuel itself. The point was that fuel was NEVER a problem in ANY of the Star Wars movies. Basically Cinemasins is pointing out how it's some new BS being used to carry the plot when it could've just been avoided in general.
I completely agree with him on that decision with the cannon, she’s not important enough of a character to be ruining heroic sacrifices to save lives, just because she doesn’t want her stupidly low chance love interest dying.
Funny thing is Finn totally went for Jannah in the next film so their "relationship" didn't even last long.
@@jordanwilliams676 Changing writers will do that
Yeah that was the worst scene in star wars
Extra sin for the bomber scene: When Paige is dropping the bombs, the bomb bay doors are clearly open, and Paige cannot breathe and should be sucked into the vacuum of space.
Rian Johnson doesnt understand how space works.
It's the shields of the ship, look at rogue one when vader is outside
@@andywrynn6215 But those shields are always red and blue in the movies and cartoons
@@andywrynn6215 So the shields keep Paige from getting sucked out, but they don't do the same for the bombs?
@@zestywalrus5434 the bombs didnt get sucked out. They were propelled by tracks out of the ship...to you know....bomb things in space
12:19 Add 400 sins due to Yoda not speaking in reverse...
3ZKZ Sting Frank Oz spoke in reverse pretty much for the rest of his dialogue. Don’t know why you’re complaining.
make it 1000000
The Mad Titan nah I agree with sting. Yoda had basically always spoken in reverse unless the sentence was too short to put it in reverse and that sentence he just said had so many words that he should have said it in reverse. Makes no sense for him to not speak in reverse. Also, even if it was only one time that’s irrelevant. One time is all we need.
he took grammar lessons
Yoda rarely spoke in reverse in the original trilogy
Anyone else disappointed the guy in the casino wasn't Lando? Already established that the dude dresses swag, likes to gamble, and knows all kinds of tricks.
It should have been Lando, let's be honest
But no, let’s have Landon show up for no reason in rise of shitwalker
The point of DJ was to represent a guy who was not with the good guys or the bad guys, showing Finn the negative effect of being neutral during a war. That way Finn officially decides to become a rebel
I mean, how original
I was mad that they wasted beltoro on that nobody role. Would of been better if Snoke had him as a secret sith he was training in order to test Ben. Like he did with maul doku and vader
Rose: I am officially the worst Star Wars character
Admiral Holdo: Holdo my Almondmilk Frappuccino
I hate Holdo more than rose, rose at least had the potential to be better
Rey: I'm Reysing the bar on crappy characters.
Between the lightsaber throw, the praetorian guard battle, and the hyperspace fleet killing, this should have 1 million sins
The Force Awakens
The Last Jedi
From His Nap
Echoingdolphin I feel like I have heard this before. 🤔
@@liamgriffin218 I mean I never claimed that I made it up lol
Lets make this the official title of Episode IX.
Lol
Echoingdolphin but you’ll gladly accept the likes :)
To those of you who were wondering why Cinemasins didn't add more sins, they _were_ going to. They had a whole fleet of bonus rounds ready to go and tackle this abomination of a film.
But they ran out of fuel.
I personally liked the movie
@@MartianFruit same here. I only see hate for this movie online. Everyone I know that has seen this film either likes it or doesn't mind it. Haven't met anyone face to face that hates the movie as much as anyone online does.
It was a pretty good movie. Alright plot (a few plot holes but meh), amazing cinematography, on-point action, good character, and amazing design on everything (bar costumes and horses)
@@michaelsinclair1343 its a very loud minority. The internet is a breeding ground for them.
Kevin Strom That’s very funny, keep telling yourself that
Me when the entire movie isn't here
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Lost a planet Obi won has ;)
18:06 The sad part is that I would have forgiven the movie for all of its sins if that had actually been Luke being badass instead of projecting it
A real lightsaber fight would have been nice
Also: How did the Force can project a Jedi to another planet and make you at will materialize and de-materialize? I think, Ryan Johnson is like Alex Kurtzman in Star Trek. He's ignoring every canonic world-building so that he can shove his plot down our throats and we have to like it! -.-
That or LITERALLY, this is a force move that ultimately results in him dying...why couldn't his force projection also be able to interact with solid objects like lightsaber but then Kylo gets teh upper hand, gets a stab in, finds out it's a force projection and then Luke dies. Same result, except more badass and truer to the legend and badassery of Luke Skywalker.
Im pretty sure that projection was bada**
Kylo Ren: I'll try spinning, that's a good trick
It runs in the family!!!
Kylo ren: NOW THIS IS POD RACING
Hilarious.
I would never say that! I say quotes of Darth Vader, not Anakin Skywalker.
hehehe
"Or does she only have enough fuel for one space resurrection"
That was comedy gold.
😂
The shade thrown is as cold as space
Cinemasins calls the Last Jedi fight scene well choreographed,
Shadiversity: Im about to end this man's whole career
Dude, yes! I was like, tf 😂😂😂
Yeah I noticed that too. It's literally one of the worst fight scenes I've ever seen
Robot head dissected the scene.
The first time I saw that I remember thinking afterwards that something really stupid just happened But I wasn’t sure what, I had two watch it Again before I realized just how stupid it really was
So is Robot Head
The fact you took a sin off and explained how perfectly filmed the fight against the knights of Snoke were, you have no idea how truly bad that fight was choreographed and filmed. Despite minimal cuts, there was no use of any sort of force or timing, there is many points where you see a knight pause to attack, and there is no flow or force like feel to either Rey or Kilo. Truly an awful fight, that you don’t understand. I love these CinemaSins, but that truly was a miss
Someone here saw Shadiversity's video x)
HAHAHAH LMAO, get fucked loser. You also have no idea how a fight scene is filmed because you're a fat virgin living in your mom's basement
Robot Head made a good video about that as well
"Wait, you can teleport matter through the Force now?!"
You are NOT going to like Episode 9...
Ella Hoyt He is going to HATE it!!!
Ella Hoyt You know the dyad in the Force isn’t original, right? Revan and Bastila had one in the Old Republic era.
Qui-Gon teleported matter through the force in 'Phantom Menace' so there is precedent for that. Not good precedent as it was 'Phantom Menage' but precedent.
@@insulam821 He used the force to teleport the sample of Anakin's blood to Obi-Wan for analysis. It's not overplayed but if you watch he tells Obi-Wan on the radio he's sending it then Obi-Wan opens his hand and has it.
@@Djarra No Qui-Gon did not teleport matter through the force, he sent a signal through the transponder he had. Are you actually addled? A transmission through technology is not the same thing as teleporting matter through the force, which frankly has always been impossible in Star Wars till now. Even now it doesn't make sense, Luke was merely a projection, nothing could have been physical, yet somehow it was. The movie contradicts itself and Kylo/Ben breaks it further in episode 9
Those lasers that the Empire is firing at 4:13 have more arc than Rose's character.
In space.....
Those are probably scale up version of proton torpedos with homing capability.
@@bigorange2082 Plus they're just concentrated portions of heat and light, meaning they have no mass, meaning if there was gravity it still wouldn't pull them down.
@@impg8801 Einstein would like to have a word with you
@@impg8801 gravity bends space-time, light changes course due to gravity, hence black holes don't emit any
13:03 “How the hell are they having this radio conversation WHILE IN LIGHT SPEED?!?!” Because Star Wars Logic makes no sense
Kathleen Kennedy.... 'nuf said
It use to make sense from the other original six movies. These others are slowly killing it to where nothing won't matter.
Bc it isnt actual speed of the ship, it is interdimensional travel. Think of it like the nether in minecraft,a block distance in the nether is an 8 block distance in the overworld(normal dimension)
Ha. “Well choreographed”
*flailing stuntmen intensifies*
Yeah, that fight did NOT stand up to home slo-mo scrutiny.
@@Lumibear. it didn’t need to be slowed down. There were plenty of obvious mistakes whilst watching it in cinemas
Biggest Sin was Leia immediately hugging Ray after Hans Death and ignoring Chewy, the guys best friend, WTF?
That was force awakens lol
@@hurricanesun77 sorry, last 3 ran together for me
@@jstnsmutek yeah all good all three were horrible anyways the force awakens was ok but Hans death to his own son that hardly had any build up at all
@@hurricanesun77 well I think it was something added in because Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo dead
I'm surprised there's no bonus round for everytime they utter the words hope or fuel
There would be over 1000
Or snuff
He needed an outtake from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom where they were on the plane and indie kept saying, fuel, fuel, fuel???
Gotta admit that would be a new record
"Let the hope fuel through you!"
I'm astounded you removed a sin for that lightsaber fight. You should have added at least 6, one for each time you can see a red twirly dude wait their turn before jumping in to be stabbed.
Literally compliments the fucking awful fight.
The fight scene at the end had a couple of sins, some guy just falls over without being touched, and Rey should have died at one point but somehow just doesn’t after dropping her lightsaber and catching it again while a guy pressed a blade up to her throat
"May the Fuel be with you"
May the Fewl be with you. ...but seriously Fuel is a great band. Give "Innocent" listen to sometime
Doesn't the First Order have fuel concerns too? They've been pursuing the Resistence "fleet" and wouldn't they be running on fumes too?
@@Paulafan5 "I felt a great disturbance in the plot"
Use some liquid Schwartz to avoid fuel problems. "May the Schwartz be with you"
_Star Wars be like: “space” noises_
pew pew pew *chewbacca noise* I am your father...sounds about right?
Space "noises"
*fuel noises*
That actually describes it really well. Like, on multiple levels.
ahahah yes, and most important: don't forget the laser shots curving because ... reasons, I guess (4:30)
When you praise the throne room scene.
Me: so you have chosen death.
Lol no.
@@beckettmaffei the throne room scene sucks. go look up why, there are quite a few articles and videos explaining why
@@thahoule7924 Oh yes, because of one continuity issue with a sword and a slight choreography error. Therefore, it SUCKS! You know how many of those things I can find in The Empire Strikes Back?
@@beckettmaffei yeah, two thingd to considerd here 1) NOWHERE in empire does a weapon judt disappear from the hands of an enemy mid-fight bc the hero would be dead if it didnt.
2)empire is decades old, tlj is a young movie which should be hold to todays standarts. And that just shouldnt happen these days
@@thahoule7924 No. You can't excuse Empire for that. If there's a mistake, there's a mistake. And also- these TWO things in the Throne Room Scene are things that people had to slow down and look for. If you don't see them without looking for mistakes, they shouldn't count.
12:34 hyperdrives have different levels of power. Han Solo brags that the Falcon "can go 1.5 past lightspeed."
Man that lightspeed kamikaze could of been useful against the death star
Or the second death star....
Or literally every villain's base/weapon
possibly a droid could have been used to pilot the ship too, I don't know, i'm not a writer for Disney.
Or any planet ever
There were other means of destruction and it was great surprise and masterfully shot scene especially with no sound. People can yell "Ruin Johnson" all they want but he has the ability to direct well. I think he just needs better material. This was leaps and bounds better than Batman v. Superman. Also a director can only do so much with a shitty script. His task isn't to rewrite.
Now, I have a theory about this one. In Star Wars (assuming any part of Legends is still applicable) ships in hyperspace can't collide with things in the real world, because they don't exist in Hyperspace. So if an X-wing goes to hyperspace, it can't collide with and destroy an X-wing in the real world, or a corvette or whatever.
The exception is REALLY big stuff. Planets. Stars. Etc. These things are huge enough that they generate "mass shadows" which pull things out of Hyperspace so they crash into them at crazy speeds, and die horribly. I don't think a ship travelling at Hyperspace speed can destroy a planet (or the empire would have just used that), and similar logic applies to the death star (I think): incredibly thick, an insane amount of armour, and probably a crazy ton of redundant components and systems. The only vulnerable bit was the core, which any hyperspace-ramming ship probably got vaporised long before it gets to.
The Supremacy sits in the nasty sweet spot: it's big enough to generate a mass shadow, BUT small enough (compared to the death star) that a hyperspace ram causes it serious damage. Add in the fact it's not a sphere with all the important stuff at the centre, but a sort of wedge shape that a shape could feasibly cut through, and it's the perfect target for a hyperspace ram. perhaps the only one.
But that's a personal theory.
You missed the one where Finn drags Rose the entire length of the battlefield and back through the front door... in front of the whole First Order attack force... in less time then it took for them to drive out there in the first place 🤦🏼♂️
JoySpring1965 well Kylo ordered every AT-AT and ship to fire on Luke then went to go fight Luke giving Finn plenty of time to get Rose to safety
@@pyr1412 I don't think you understand how far out they were. They were (or at least should have been) heavily injured by the crash as well. Never mind the hours it should have taken to get back, they shouldn't even have been able to move to begin with.
There’s things in every movie ever that don’t make sense but you know you just shouldn’t question. This is definitely one of them
He also forgot to mention that Luke used Anakins lightsaber right after Kylo watched it break in half.
How did they even get these tiny ships out of the base when its so clearly been closed and apparently the only way in and out? They sure wouldnt have opened the big fucking door to let them out and create an opportunity for the First Order to get inside?
5:15 “or does she only have enough FUEL for one space resurrection?”
literally had me in tears laughing
Ships in the other star wars films: I can travel across the entire galaxy without breaking a sweat.
Ships in the Last Jedi: I can only do a couple jumps and then I'm useless.
Infinite sins for killing off one of the most iconic characters of Star Wars in the first 10 minutes of the movie, offscreen, with a little explosion, and barely any buildup!!
RIP Admiral Ackbar... your death in legends was so much better.
@@BGOutOfService I don't know if you've had the decency to pick up a book every so often, but Admiral Ackbar was a greatly developed character in the Star Wars books, and while they're no longer canon, they're much better than Ackbar's death in this movie or whatever role he played in whatever fanfictions you might be spending your time reading
@@BGOutOfService Ok, I can agree with that. There was some weird stuff that I haven't actually looked at in the EU, but some of the other story arcs are really good, and they build on the previously established characters well
Have you watched the clone wars?
Also, r/wooosh
@@BGOutOfService Ackbar plays a big part in the Clone Wars
@@BGOutOfService bruh what's wrong with liking ackbar just stop pls he is not just a meme
the biggest sin in this movie is the sheer disrespect for Luke. As much as I loved seeing Yoda again, Luke should have BEEN the Yoda of this movie. Wise beyond belief, instead he ends up getting lectured by Yoda again like he was still a teenager. And wtf you're telling me the same Luke Skywalker that spent all of RoJ risking his life to save Darth Vader the most evil man in the universe because he thought he could turn him would even for a second of weakness contemplate killing his beloved nephew who hadn't even done anything? And that was the catalyst for Ben turning? Fuck you Disney, give me literally George Lucas back.
The stuff about him looking like a hobo drinking from weird alien boobs is just a perfect visual representation to what they've done to my favorite starwars character. I don't even want to see how this crap finishes at this point. And I sat through all three of the Lucas prequels.
I found it hilariously stupid when he was trying to kill Kylo, and unfortunately that was the point where the movie was trying to be serious.
I'm sorry but you might not want George Lucas anyway. Unless you like your Whills, then you do you even though this random person on the net would hate you for it. I'd rather have had more stuff like Rogue One even though it apparently adds nothing according to others.
"I can't kill my father I sense there is still good in him", wait this little shit have a nightmare, well I guess is off with his head
@@Bucky147 I'm not calling the prequels good. I've seen the red letter media reviews and agree with them. I'm saying that compared to this movie I'd rather have those shitty prequels. At least they were fun to explore in the extended universe. I'm never going to want to go to casino planet.
yep, thats pretty much exactly how i feel.
All the exposition really ground my gears. "Oh finally, the camera is on us, I can finally give this order or share this information I would've normally given my crew in an actual briefing half an hour ago!"
How the hell did this film have less sins than freaking Revenge of the Sith?
Revenge of the Sith is much better than this garbage
Wtf Revenge of the Sith was actually good. Anakin's downfall and the fall of the Republic were pretty well portrayed imo. And the lightsaber choreography was actually good, and no BS force resurrections or dumb hyperspace maneuvers.
@@adithyavraajkumar5923 That's exactly what we're both saying
@@ewankenobi9174 Why do you care?
@@ChristophBrinkmann Because in my opinion this film is way worse than RotS
So wait..
He literally says "Murder the shit out of everyone"
And then someone immediately goes "Hey one of those people you just told us to kill is at our front door and wants to talk, so...what do we do?"
There are a few movies where the good guy being so openly brazen and ballsy to start casually bantering and insulting the bad guy actually stuns them into not immediately killing the good guy actually works and looks cool. Say Guardians of the Galaxy. But it has become overdone and now it seems like the bad guy is obligated to actually listen to a cocky little try hard insulting him with no back up or means of being a threat. I find it hard to believe that Hux, who knows he is liable to being horribly force tortured if he acts stupidly, would do anything other than shut off communications and kill Poe
@@barrylyndon5552 Of course, how else do you think the Doctor has been able to survive for 14 incarnations without being vaporized by the Daleks?
@@DavidNicholson101 difference is the doctor is an immortal genius that can end a race with just his brains so not listening to what he is saying is actually dangerous
Tentons O'fun But think of all the times the Doctor could have been killed because they had him surrounded. The Pandorica Opens is a prime example.
What about how one of Snoke’s guards forgets that he has a second weapon so much that it actually disappears!
50:sins
Or the one that just casually throws away his weapon and walks in kylos light saber
@@cobo7548 Or the one that has a perfect opening to kill Rey dead, but hesitates for no reason other than "the script says her and Kylo are supposed to win this scrap".
Kylo and 2 of them punched the floor
The throne room fight scene was awful. I'm going to go watch The Duel of the Fates...
For real, he took sins off for the worst choreographed fight in Star Wars while sinning Anakin vs Obi Wan for being “boring”, and took a bunch of sins off the Holdo Maneuver scene without questioning why nobody has done it before or since.
16:08 why did he remove 5 sins
I‘m trying to figure out what was going on there, but this movie was so forgettable that I can’t remember anything that happened.
Holdo maneuver, where she used the giant ship as a suicide bomb. Which is something legitimately cool and something never done before in Star Wars.
The fuel!
The fucking fuel!
That got me 😂
7:02 You missed a “Where is Camera” moment for the hologram
Same place as the music
21:11 killed me! "Rose! Why'd you do that? So stupid!" - Jack
And that line she gave, in the middle of a full on war, unironically, was so enraging to me; Not just as a former Star Wars fan, but as a person with some basic, barebones knowledge on how to wage a war.
+CinemaSins *YA DIDN'T "OUTTAKE" LEIA FLYING THROUGH SPACE WITH A YONDU, "I'M MARY POPPINS Y'ALL!!"...VOICEOVER??!!!!!!!!* *........AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH(inhale)AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!*
*DAMN YOU ALL STRAIGHT TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!*
That was perfect
@@b3rz3rk3r9 right? Like “yeah let’s just try to save each other as they gun us down like animals. Because that will help us survive! Why bother trying to fight back?” Honestly she should’ve pushed Finn and out to sacrifice herself. That way she would’ve been more useful.
@@LegendHxz EXACTLY! This also enraged me as a hopeful future writer, because a character with ultimately no arc or interest to grip the viewer shattered a fitting end to Finn's arc as a Imperial turncoat; a stormtrooper who decided to serve the resistance of his own will to where he'd die for their cause. It'd be one of many fitting ends for Finn's arc.
Great work as always.
Only one gripe.
At 16:13 sins were removed for the suicide jump into the first order dread.
Really twenty sins should have been added.
This scene is a very lore breaking event.
It breaks the lore but it’s easily the single coolest McFreaking scene in the movie.
As someone who wasn't that invested in the lore by the time I saw that scene, even after I was informed of the lore that scene kicks ass.
i tried to sin this movie and my tally went up to 916.... you under-sinned this film
No one:
Absolutely no one ever:
Rian Johnson: Fuel
Well in his defence: before the battle of Yavin we see the Rebel Fighters attached to some hoses. So they need some kind of refilling/recharging. But until now there was apparently a unlimited supply to both sides of every conflict. But yes it is ludicrous to make it THE plot point for this movie. And even if... this movie is just too bad on too many levels.
I wouldn't have even minded the idea if RJ had any idea how physics worked. You can explain away the movements with their engines and propulsion systems, but space ships don't just stop in space because they run out of fuel.
These comments need to die already
@@xboxonevideos7685 Oh I´m sorry did I hurt your feeling, you little porg?
star wars rebels and clone wars talked about that and came out long before... pay attention to the star wars galaxy
"This movie knows where it wants all its characters to be at certain times but gives ZERO s*its about how and why they get there."
On point
basically how a kid imagines things lol
16:06: My exact reaction to this scene...just...wow. Totally agree with the sin-removal with that bit!
I think it's awesome too!
But...
1. Did she know that would work?
2. Has it happened before?
3. Why use missiles (or lasers or whatever) when you can just use a small ship with a hyperdrive?
@@5Ci0N Yes, Yes, and cause (in-universe) it costs less to equip weapons onto existing ships than it is to make hyperdrives.
besides that it makes the whole ot films obsolete xD
@@Loobyrex Indeed lol
i think the map luke "left" is the one used to get there in the first place
Rewatching the movie, I noticed one sin CinemaSins and I had missed until tonight. Understandably, we all direct our undivided attention to the idiocy of Rose when she stops Finn's suicide run and says that dumb line about saving the things you love. But how do the two of them travel from the enemy's feet a mile or so back to the base in plain sight, in broad daylight, and across terrain that turns red when disturbed? I miss George Lucas.
You would be great at Cinemasins. If Cinemasins ever hired an intern, you would suit the role perfectly.
Imagine missing George Lucas when George Lucas made the prequel trilogy
I think the movie is good, but this scene doesn't make any sense, why the ATATs didn't shot them and Finn was trying to save who he love too, so why the Rose stoped him with the same argue???
Also where did they get the shuttle from the whole hanger was destroyed and falling apart. Long story short worst star wars movie I have ever seen.
@@blueraptorgaming3460 should've added another also in front of that also lol
wait, they're in space right? you know, a frictionless vacuum? so if fuel's such a concern, why not just turn off the engines and just keep going that way?
From very beginning SW has never been big on physics unlike something like Babylon 5. It's Science Fantasy so getting science right has never been priority.
@@johannesmakila2459 even so, they do seem to be treating space in this universe like it's real life space.
Well, if physics work they way they do in our universe (which, well, they don't, clearly), then while the engines are on, all the ships should be constantly accelerating with exponential degradation equal to the amount of thrust provided. So, of the rebel fleet cut the engines, yes, they'd still be moving at a constant speed, but the First Order would fairly quickly overtake them
@@TotalInsanity4 Does the First Order not have fuel concerns of their own? Why are their ships so much more fuel efficient?
@@Paulafan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly don't know what to tell you. The rebel ships are smaller, so maybe they just have much smaller tanks comparatively than the star destroyers. I agree the fuel plot bit felt really clunky (as well as the casino planet, god that bit was awful), I was just pointing out why shutting the engines down wouldn't be a solution
Empire Strikes Back: 129 sins
The Last Jedi: 121 sins
There's no hope left.
empire is so amazing he had to nitpick to find actual sins
I give cinema sins an infinite amount of sins for not only not giving a sin to that trainwreck of a throne room scene but for taking a sin away
EXACTLY i was so confused why he removed a sin for the worst fight scene in star wars
It was a great fight
I hated how rose “saved” Finn.He should have sacrificed himself that would have been good for his character but she risked her life and Finns by crashing into each other
And considering the tiny role Finn played in the next film, killing him off would not have significantly changed the trilogy. Everything he did could have been done by someone else.
That would have made it so much better if she tried and failed by killing them both and not stopped the cannon thing.
Right? Finn was trying to save the others and she crashed into him. She could have no way of knowing whether she was saving him or murdering him. What she did was not only selfish, but incredibly foolish.
I think what was probably scripted on the page, but was not conveyed well, was that Finn's maneuver was not going to be successful. "It's too late" meaning that the cannon was going to tear his ship apart before he reached it so his death would have been pointless. I think that was going to be the essence of the scene, but they let Finn's ship get too close to the cannon.
Nah, I liked that, actually. It took that Independence Day "ram the doomsday device" and then subverted our expectations. In fact, all the subversion and plot twists was what saved this film, if you ask me. But to each their own :) .
U.S aircraft carriers in my time have fuel that lasts 40 years but these highly advanced intergalactic cruisers run out of fuel mid battle. Lol
Actually they were running low on fuel before the battlewhen the resistance sent out a distress signal admiral ackbar only sent half fuel ships because that's all he had
@@silverspartangaming6963 still... why do they run on this fuel that only lasts a short amount of time. Even on half fuel something that advanced should last longer.
@@TheHandleOnRUclips you've got to think they were running full speed also a few it's meant to last at least a week they would have run out a long time and it in Saipan out the full tanks and their base
@@silverspartangaming6963 or it was lazy writing
The entire thing is god damn ridiculous. Fuel is just a form of stored energy, these ships are supposed to have gigantic reactors like miniature suns. They arent meant to need any kind of external fuel, before this they pulled shit from hyperspace. Even if they didnt the idea that they run on gas like a car and they were down to like a quarter tank is sheer writer > logic and established canon.
“This is the way choreography should work”
Shadiversity has entered the chat
With the inquisitors of the Imperium behind him.
Fuel has been in Star Wars for ages. Back in season 4 of Star Wars the clone wars, there was a Cad Bane arc and during the second episode, they had to refuel there ship they had bought. So no fuel has been in Star Wars since at least 2012
So, no fuel has been in Star Wars since at least 2012
So no,
If Luke didn’t show up at the end, than Rose stopping Finn would have led too the first order killing everyone
Shh we're not supposed to talk about it
Eh, I mean, Finn crashing into it probably wouldn't have done anything anyway. And even if it would have, he probably wouldn't have made it in time.
@@magicalpj well finn was a stormtrooper and perhaps (just speculation) knew that doing that would maybe do something
So it's a Jedi Ex Machina.
@@magicalpj it would, simple example imagine a round stock in the barrle of the gun and explodes inside setting of the other bullets the gun would be f****. If Fin went straight into that thing it would explode on itself.
One of the few movies where I've been like, "Yeah, this deserves a Cinemasins"
5:37 "Star Wars is weird"
mocking I received in junior high somehow makes it into the cinemasins review
Me seeing that he gave the last jedi less than one thousand sins: it's treason then
technically, when Luke vanished, his metal hand should have remained, and fell down in some dramatic scene, because it's completely artificial.
Edit Two years later: It's just my opinion. Its a movie. Get over yourself, you egotistical, children! It's really sad to see everyone fighting and insulting others over a movie, that wasn't even made that great.
And if you knew anything about a force user having robotic limbs, you would know that, through the force, the robotic limbs become one with their essence....the same goes for those twits that claim a force user wouldn't be able to use the force through their robotic limb as it's not their limb...again...clearly knowing nothing about the force....
@@sonofodin8897 ah, so that's why Darth Vader is said to be weaker than Anakin because he's mostly robotic, thus stopping the force from flowing through his robotic limbs 🤖
@@Nanostevenson he still does though
@@Nanostevenson Vader was NEVER considered "weaker"...and you dont need limbs at all...its about reaching outward through the force...from your MIND...smh
Rey physically reaching out when Luke told her to reach out...Rey would be people like you. And Luke, like I, smacks your hand and gives you the dad stank eye LOL
That kid who legit used the force to pick up his broom at the end of this movie isnt even SEEN in the next one.
Edit: now im wondering if he knows he can use the force. Or if that was the first time that happened. "Oh, my broom just sorta floated into my hands. Ok, no questions. This is a universe were people can go from being in a place with little to no oxygen to being surounded by oxygen in seconds and not be affected."
Get in the way of ray being the only special one lol
@@jacobcrsn wamens
@@jacobcrsn It's cuz they decided it was best to just sweep the last Jedi under the couch.
they’ll just use that to start off another series on Disney+, like what they’re doing for Loki after he took off with the tesseract
They were trying to be symbolic. Anyone can be a special/a jedi
CinemaSins: Everything wrong with the Last Jedi
Me: Save your breath man. It's existence is worth 1,000 sins by itself.
3:50 the first order tries to claim that this tracker is some new dark side technology something or other, or at least a new development but does no body remember attack of the clones when Obi-Wan LITERALLY tracks Jango through hyperspace... with a simple attached tracker, 50 years prior???
The first sin to this movie actually comes when director Rian Johnson first said, "action!"
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Rose's entire character is wrong with this movie
Yeah, fuck that lady!
Honestly, the "We have a spy aboard" alternate subplot (rather than "I have a plan, I'm just not telling you!" BS) would have made her character intriguing, especially with that layer of "Is she a traitor, or genuinely being helpful here?" mentality. It'd color every action she had while on the mission with Finn with that flavor, and even her gamble of knocking him away from his suicide dive would be tinged with "Was that her saving Finn, or saving the First Order's cannon?"
Seriously, she would have made a *perfect* potential mole without ever actually confirming if she was one or not! Hell, they wouldn't even have to rewrite a single bit of what she said - every action and every word would be tinged with that suspicion, and that suspicion would have made her more engaging by proxy.
I should also add that I honestly wasn't bothered by her character - but I agree that the subplot with her and Finn was largely pointless, but that was kind of the point, in this case. That the heroes wouldn't necessarily make the right call all the time.
Rose switches personalities three or four times in her first five minutes on screen.
@@TheFrugalVideoGamer I understand that people undertake pointless actions, but I tend to view that kind of like sleeping, going to the bathroom or buying socks, things that do happen in real life but are so boring you don't include them in your films. That incredibly long and pointless cul de sac on Space Vegas, while definitely intended to subordinate plot to message, ground an already sluggish movie to a grinding halt. And I have heard the argument it motivates Finn etc, but there had to be a less soporific way to do it.
her and Holdo are annoying as fuck, but mostly Rose
The most positive thing about this movie: At least it's not "The Rise of Skywalker"!
I'm gonna wake up tomorrow morning screaming "THE FUCKING FUEL"
I did that at the end of the movie. Fucking fuel!
A well choreographed fight? Corridor Crew would like to have a word.
So would Shad.
It was a horrible choreography. Kylo slammed his saber into the ground every 10 seconds but didn’t get his head cut off? They still attacked that saber ON THE GROUND instead of his defenseless body. Two dudes were waiting to join in. One casually lost his dagger when he had the chance to kill Rey with it,....
@@originaler31er67 They were going for his legs and he struck the ground blocking them. Also Rey's vanishing blade isn't the first continuity error in star wars just look at vanishing Obi wan lol
@@techno639 thats hardly an excuse. The red soldiers had to intentionally miss and add time wasting flair to not throw off the fight. It was not even background errors
@@theworkshop7505 I'll admit, it looks better when sped up a bit more, one of my only gripes with the scene
I’m so confused I just watched Rise of Skywalker and none of it, and I mean NONE of it included the kid at the end
Maybe cinemasins has an extended version
@@reed2894 oh uh, I watched it again and realized…”oh wait, I did see this” so yeah
Another plot hole into the mix
I actually liked those cute little animal creatures in the background, but there is no way Chewie isn't going to eat as many of those things as he wants. Just be glad he cooked them first. The only reason not to eat something in front of living members of its species is if that species is big and angry enough to take down a wookie.
2:42 he didn’t want anyone to be a Jedi
He wanted them to ignore the Force
Jar Jar Binks: Meesa da Worst character!
Rose: *_Hold My Beer_*
What about Admiral Gender Studies?
@@Nahasapasa who?
I think her name was Holdo
Nah but this is actually so accurate
Oooh so you're the famous bad seeds of the Star Wars fandom
The same reaction I had to the light speed jump “Holy F*ck”
The Light Speed jump she did through the First Order Fleet is the most badass thing anyone can do. Yes, she died but she went out like no other.
@@bossshun9 And lets be honest, it is the only redeeming feature in the whole film
@@RicardoGantusa even tho it makes no sense lol
@@Headshotdead23 it breaks the lore of star wars pretty much but the rule of cool applies and it an exception
It was a hell of a way to go out
13:11, That guy is a perfect representation of "Whatever, I'm not paid enough to give a shit."
Best cinemasins video ever!
Really cool
5:58
Rose be like:
"Mom said its my turn to play on the xbox!"
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This comment made my night'
Does anyone realize that the fuel problem in this movie is the hyperdrive problem in the empire strikes back?
Jeremy: Fuel? Is this... the first mention of the concept of fuel in Star Wars?
Me: No.
George Lucas: Hold my blue milk
Rian Johnson: 😐
Mauler: "Hold my rihno milk."
Could been processed to turned blue. Still fricking gross
TBH in Revenge of the Sith Obi-Wan said to the people on Utapau that he needed a refuel for his ship. So technically this isn't the first time fuel has been mentioned.
I'm more surprised you spent your free time re watching all the Star wars episodes looking for any moment where fuel is mentioned once. Unless you just googled it and are just repeating what someone else said, who wasted their free time lol.
@@TylerGTA Seriously, you didn't know that Star Wars fan do that? Even low level fans can repeat virtually every word of A New Hope just seeing a soundless playback.
@@gentblue I memorized all of episode 3 as it is the best movie and the most meme-able 😂
Plus Anakin told the pilot to "aim right above those fuel cells" so that makes one fuel reference in each prequel movie.
@Nathan Cox It was because the engine, right? That's the story between the blue flying Jew and Liam Neeson, if I remember correctly.
"Only enough fuel for one space resurrection"
That one really got me lol
3:54 I believe it may be one of the few or the only mention of fuel in the movies, however there are consistent mentions of lacking fuel within the Clone Wars animated series. It’s presumably just omitted from the movies for convenience and more room for direct moments of tension that don’t take as long to develop.
There was fuel even in the very first Star Wars movie.
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It's one thing to just sin something incorrectly, but to repeatdly go off on rants about something that wasn't a sin is rather offputting.