Correction: Knuckle was confirmed to be a Conjurer in the Togashi Expo so APR is a conjured construct. Razor’s devils are weird but it might just be that Emitted constructs aren’t really a thing like some thought. In that case Netero’s Gaunyin is more likely to be a Conjured construct rather than an emitted one but who knows. To add to the Beyond Netero part even though his name alone is a bad a argument for why he’s stronger than his Dad, I can imagine Isaac hoping his son would grow stronger than him one day which Mizaistorm kinda speculates. Togashi might have named him Beyond because of how he’ll be voyaging “beyond” the known world and into the Dark Continent. Join the Discord: discord.gg/HZjvt6vPq4
Togashi was really smart, putting 2 characters so strong vs each other and kill them. Shonen are basically "journey of the hero" ,and those 2 were basically broken. I think both Netero and Meruem could obliterate the entire phantom troup in seconds if they serious. Budda statur is just too fast and strong,
When Netero says that he isn't among the top five nen masters I think that he isn't talking in terms of combat capability. As we see many times in HxH, nen isn't just about pure combat strength. Netero is most likely just talking about pure nen proficiency, as in skill with using and manipulating aura, aka verbatim what he says as "nen masters". He is most definably the strongest in terms of combat prowess as the Zodiacs have sparred with him, and his whole hatsu is based around combat. But when he says mastery that would imply that there are people out there (like Ging) who are better at using the system of nen to their benefit.
If you think about it, Guanyin is mainly an enhancement ability, since Netero is definitely using nen to speed up his prayer motions, and that's the condition that makes the whole ability work.
I swear I just put on hxh to watch right before I wanted to multitask by putting videos on my notifications on watch later, and the first video is how strong netero is
8:47 Don't speed scale again🙏 Zeno explained that this was a time-stopping fallacy caused by two people colliding during the battle. In short, what happens from there is a slowdown in the perception of time. This has nothing to do with speed.
@@zagessjNetero is indeed way faster than Pitou. In chapter 292 Meruem was at point blank range and Netero was so fast he made Meruem look like he was frozen in air. And since Pitou compared Adult Gon to Meruem, his speed is in the same ballpark. Netero is much much faster than people think he is.
@@zagessj Why do you think that? In order for Gon to win, he will need to punch Netero directly, which means he needs to go through Bodhisattva's hands to reach Netero. He will need to be faster than Meruem to dodge Bodhisattva's hands. If he isn't that fast, he will have to tank them; hundreds and thousands of hits in less than a minute. He will get crushed very fast. Remember, his arm was cut clean easily by Pitou.
Maybe I’ll make this a video but briefly Adult Gon’s aura reverses are probably so high he could outlast Netero and depending on how you interpret Godspeed compared to post mortem Pitou, Gon might be fast enough to dodge the Guanyin.
Netero is actually way stronger than his prime because his Prayer was not as fast compared to his Nen ability buffing it. Edit-> The downplay for Netero being Mach 1 is also incorrect because the Nen specifically states, " With his fist alone, Netero surpassed sound" That means, without Nen or praying, Netero was beyond superhuman who breaks the sound barrier. To put that into perspective, If Goku and Netaro fought without their magic system, then Netero wins because his body is more monstrous. At the very least, he and Goku would have a good fight.
@@zagessj Prime Netero had not fully completed his training (praying) and developed his bodhisattva. That happened after he left the Dojo. Prime Netero was 46 when he reached the Peak of his physical ability. At the age of 50, Netero had become capable of completing the daily ritual in under an hour. So during the Mountain training and during his time at the Dojo, Netero did not have the bodhisattva nor was his Nen as refine. He was specifically stated to be a martial artist, not a Nen user. So, it's possible Netero awaken Nen during his praying. The strongest version of Netero would probably be the one when he went to the dark continent. Edit-> The Rusty Netero should be way stronger than his younger prime version since he is also way faster.
@@khulmach9662 all bullshit. Since when did Nen and Ki become magic powers? They are life energies and go hand to hand. Don't forget Goku is a saiyan. He took off 100 kg weight before fighting Raditz, caught bullets in DB, easily handled many lions, many times trained in the gravity chamber and time capsule without using ki. Trained with Korin. He can't be caught by normal human eyes. And Netero nen was lagging behind compared to his fist and he wasn't faster physically than his nen. He was just slow in his technique which he mastered by the end. He was able to move at his max speed even when he conjured the Bodhisattva. And we are just talking about one technique. He is still not very fast or physically superior to Goku who is all rounded.
I mean the only human that could (and likely was) be stronger than netero is Maha Zoldyck as netero was praised for simply surviving a fight against the Zoldyck patriarch meaning that in the end he didn't beat him.
Zoldycks don’t fight/kill for pleasure so if Maha fought Netero it was to kill which means he failed. I don’t think that makes it likely he was stronger when Netero was undoubtedly the strongest Nen user 50+ years ago when that fight probably took place.
@@zagessj well we don't know when the fight took place exactly the only thing we know is that maha and netero are as old as one another and that they fought and netero is stated to be the only person to actually survive a confrontation with maha, its not said that he won the fight or lost it, only that he managed to live through it which is considered a feat in of itself I personally think that during both of their primes netero was likely slightly weaker than Maha but not in term of Nen ability but more so in terms of skill and fighting capabilities (even though they should be reletive) but no matter how we look at it those two are at the very least on the same level as one another.
I’m not saying who won the fight I’m just providing the likely context of what their fight was because we know according to Zeno that Zoldycks don’t fight for pleasure. If Maha fought Netero he was likely paid to do it and he clearly failed. Unless the fight was interrupted in a way similar to how Chrollo vs the Zoldycks went.
@@AndrewsMobs ? you for real right now? chapter 100 page 10, bold old man, thats him, thats maha zoldyck. not referred to by name in the manga but we get his name in the data books. we also get the conformation of his battle with netero in chapter 264
His 100 Types Guanynin Bodhisattva nen ability is Conjuration + Manipulation. All constructs are Conjuration, emission simply means separating raw aura from your body.
This makes sense I forgot Knuckle was confirmed to be a Conjurer so the Guanyin could just be like APR. Nen constructs aren’t really explained but Razors devils do put a monkey wrench in it because he’s an Emitter.
@@zagessj Every nen users can access all 6 categories except Specialisation which has it own set of rules. We've seen Master Nen User like Morel & Knov who are Manipulator & Emmiter but their nen ability is centred around their opposite category i.e. Transmutation (Smoke) & Conjuration (Room) respectively. Even Knuckle a Conjurer relies on emission in conjunction vice versa for Razor. And if you've noticed both Morel & Razor were at Great level in the nen potential chart that's lowest and Komugi & Abengane at Ultimate level the highest. We know Enhancer don't need any nen ability but Netero was on that path and reached the pinnacle but he always crave for challenge to he went beyond and choose to develop a nen ability using the two most inefficient category for him. Many people ignore this but Netero during his training on that mountain didn't Sleep or Eat anything just Punching & Praying 24*7*365 in one place that was the level of his Enhancement prior to his nen ability.
Very true although in the case of the Guanyin, Netero is still applying his nen affinity through the attacks itself he’s just using multiple nen types at the same time. It’s not like he abandoned enhancement to find a challenge when at that point he probably wasn’t the strongest nen user yet.
No he didn't, it was made by fans which Togashi signed, I think the same thing happened with the databooks and the movie, both of which aren't canon. @@zagessj
In terms of raw strength, so far no other character would’ve stand a chance against Meruem. Because of that, even past his prime, I believe Netero was the strongest human in the series. P.S. they say Maha equaled peak Netero, but considering the timeline, he would also be way past his prime was during the Chimera Ant Arc.
I would say, we can get comparison between netero and adult gon attack. Both of em attack pitou, but with a single kick adult gon can give serious damage to pitou which netero can't get it from a single blow of bodyshatva's attack So adult gon definitely far more powerful than netero bodyshatva in his old age
I said gon kicked pitou vs bodyshatva hit pitou. Both of them were pushing pitou far away. Adult Gon didn't even use special kick or nen use to do it, when Netero absolutely used bodyshatva attack (special attack) . It was clear that Adult gon's kick damage pitou more than Netero body shatva, because pitou couldn't even do anything with gon's kick while she could use Dr. Blythe when pushed away by Netero bodyshatva
Correction: Knuckle was confirmed to be a Conjurer in the Togashi Expo so APR is a conjured construct. Razor’s devils are weird but it might just be that Emitted constructs aren’t really a thing like some thought.
In that case Netero’s Gaunyin is more likely to be a Conjured construct rather than an emitted one but who knows.
To add to the Beyond Netero part even though his name alone is a bad a argument for why he’s stronger than his Dad, I can imagine Isaac hoping his son would grow stronger than him one day which Mizaistorm kinda speculates.
Togashi might have named him Beyond because of how he’ll be voyaging “beyond” the known world and into the Dark Continent.
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That chart isn't canon
Bro was so strong and was that desperate for a challenge he named his son beyond
Pretty much 😂
Togashi was really smart, putting 2 characters so strong vs each other and kill them.
Shonen are basically "journey of the hero" ,and those 2 were basically broken.
I think both Netero and Meruem could obliterate the entire phantom troup in seconds if they serious. Budda statur is just too fast and strong,
Crollo would be tough match for Netero if he can be serious n copy Netero with a stretegy.
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@@Parth-gx1nwHis prayer motion isn't fast and the bodhisattva are very complex technique it's gonna cost a lot of aura
What are you saying even meruem cant react to them and you think chrollo can?? 😂😂😂😂@@erijak2935
@@Parth-gx1nwcome on man stop it
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I fucking love netero, wish we saw more of him
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When Netero says that he isn't among the top five nen masters I think that he isn't talking in terms of combat capability. As we see many times in HxH, nen isn't just about pure combat strength. Netero is most likely just talking about pure nen proficiency, as in skill with using and manipulating aura, aka verbatim what he says as "nen masters". He is most definably the strongest in terms of combat prowess as the Zodiacs have sparred with him, and his whole hatsu is based around combat. But when he says mastery that would imply that there are people out there (like Ging) who are better at using the system of nen to their benefit.
If you think about it, Guanyin is mainly an enhancement ability, since Netero is definitely using nen to speed up his prayer motions, and that's the condition that makes the whole ability work.
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I swear I just put on hxh to watch right before I wanted to multitask by putting videos on my notifications on watch later, and the first video is how strong netero is
Crazy coincidence 😂
My insperation
Great video bro
How fast and strong do you think he is? Like scaling wise?
Not really sure what his AP would scale to but his speed is probably Lightning level (Mach 364) if you think Netero’s speed is comparable to Godspeed.
Never forget that Zeno survived the Bodhisattva
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You should do a video on Ging.
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Netero so weak he died to a rose 🌹.
You saying he’s below flower level? 😂
@@zagessj I’m just saying he died to a rose, he’d absolutely demolish a dandelion in a fight. :)
Ofc he has the same name as me 🗿
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8:47 Don't speed scale again🙏 Zeno explained that this was a time-stopping fallacy caused by two people colliding during the battle. In short, what happens from there is a slowdown in the perception of time. This has nothing to do with speed.
Frankly, netero's attack speed is sol.
I understand what Spirit Echoes are but it doesn’t change the fact Netero was faster than Pitou’s activation
Yeah that's what spirit echoe is, and on top of that Pitou had to compress time just to see Netero's movements. Both aren't the same.
@@zagessjNetero is indeed way faster than Pitou. In chapter 292 Meruem was at point blank range and Netero was so fast he made Meruem look like he was frozen in air. And since Pitou compared Adult Gon to Meruem, his speed is in the same ballpark. Netero is much much faster than people think he is.
@@Seolous Spirit Echoes or not, if this is indeed a speed feat, it must meet the conditions found in the speed context.
Who do you think will win, Adult Gon or Netero.
Adult Gon
@@zagessj Why do you think that? In order for Gon to win, he will need to punch Netero directly, which means he needs to go through Bodhisattva's hands to reach Netero. He will need to be faster than Meruem to dodge Bodhisattva's hands. If he isn't that fast, he will have to tank them; hundreds and thousands of hits in less than a minute. He will get crushed very fast. Remember, his arm was cut clean easily by Pitou.
Netero cus Gon ain't getting passed 100 type guanyin bodhisattva
Maybe I’ll make this a video but briefly Adult Gon’s aura reverses are probably so high he could outlast Netero and depending on how you interpret Godspeed compared to post mortem Pitou, Gon might be fast enough to dodge the Guanyin.
@@zagessjSo u think adult gon is faster than meurem?
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Netero is actually way stronger than his prime because his Prayer was not as fast compared to his Nen ability buffing it.
Edit-> The downplay for Netero being Mach 1 is also incorrect because the Nen specifically states, " With his fist alone, Netero surpassed sound"
That means, without Nen or praying, Netero was beyond superhuman who breaks the sound barrier.
To put that into perspective, If Goku and Netaro fought without their magic system, then Netero wins because his body is more monstrous. At the very least, he and Goku would have a good fight.
You think old Netero is stronger than Prime Netero?
@@zagessj Prime Netero had not fully completed his training (praying) and developed his bodhisattva.
That happened after he left the Dojo.
Prime Netero was 46 when he reached the Peak of his physical ability.
At the age of 50, Netero had become capable of completing the daily ritual in under an hour.
So during the Mountain training and during his time at the Dojo, Netero did not have the bodhisattva nor was his Nen as refine. He was specifically stated to be a martial artist, not a Nen user. So, it's possible Netero awaken Nen during his praying.
The strongest version of Netero would probably be the one when he went to the dark continent.
Edit-> The Rusty Netero should be way stronger than his younger prime version since he is also way faster.
Bro is yapping
@@Parth-gx1nw But I am also giving good information
@@khulmach9662 all bullshit. Since when did Nen and Ki become magic powers? They are life energies and go hand to hand. Don't forget Goku is a saiyan. He took off 100 kg weight before fighting Raditz, caught bullets in DB, easily handled many lions, many times trained in the gravity chamber and time capsule without using ki. Trained with Korin. He can't be caught by normal human eyes. And Netero nen was lagging behind compared to his fist and he wasn't faster physically than his nen. He was just slow in his technique which he mastered by the end. He was able to move at his max speed even when he conjured the Bodhisattva. And we are just talking about one technique. He is still not very fast or physically superior to Goku who is all rounded.
I mean the only human that could (and likely was) be stronger than netero is Maha Zoldyck as netero was praised for simply surviving a fight against the Zoldyck patriarch meaning that in the end he didn't beat him.
Zoldycks don’t fight/kill for pleasure so if Maha fought Netero it was to kill which means he failed. I don’t think that makes it likely he was stronger when Netero was undoubtedly the strongest Nen user 50+ years ago when that fight probably took place.
@@zagessj well we don't know when the fight took place exactly the only thing we know is that maha and netero are as old as one another and that they fought and netero is stated to be the only person to actually survive a confrontation with maha, its not said that he won the fight or lost it, only that he managed to live through it which is considered a feat in of itself
I personally think that during both of their primes netero was likely slightly weaker than Maha but not in term of Nen ability but more so in terms of skill and fighting capabilities (even though they should be reletive) but no matter how we look at it those two are at the very least on the same level as one another.
I’m not saying who won the fight I’m just providing the likely context of what their fight was because we know according to Zeno that Zoldycks don’t fight for pleasure. If Maha fought Netero he was likely paid to do it and he clearly failed. Unless the fight was interrupted in a way similar to how Chrollo vs the Zoldycks went.
There is no one called "Maha", it's not a canon character.
@@AndrewsMobs ?
you for real right now?
chapter 100 page 10, bold old man, thats him, thats maha zoldyck.
not referred to by name in the manga but we get his name in the data books.
we also get the conformation of his battle with netero in chapter 264
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His 100 Types Guanynin Bodhisattva nen ability is Conjuration + Manipulation. All constructs are Conjuration, emission simply means separating raw aura from your body.
This makes sense I forgot Knuckle was confirmed to be a Conjurer so the Guanyin could just be like APR. Nen constructs aren’t really explained but Razors devils do put a monkey wrench in it because he’s an Emitter.
@@zagessj Every nen users can access all 6 categories except Specialisation which has it own set of rules. We've seen Master Nen User like Morel & Knov who are Manipulator & Emmiter but their nen ability is centred around their opposite category i.e. Transmutation (Smoke) & Conjuration (Room) respectively. Even Knuckle a Conjurer relies on emission in conjunction vice versa for Razor. And if you've noticed both Morel & Razor were at Great level in the nen potential chart that's lowest and Komugi & Abengane at Ultimate level the highest. We know Enhancer don't need any nen ability but Netero was on that path and reached the pinnacle but he always crave for challenge to he went beyond and choose to develop a nen ability using the two most inefficient category for him. Many people ignore this but Netero during his training on that mountain didn't Sleep or Eat anything just Punching & Praying 24*7*365 in one place that was the level of his Enhancement prior to his nen ability.
Very true although in the case of the Guanyin, Netero is still applying his nen affinity through the attacks itself he’s just using multiple nen types at the same time. It’s not like he abandoned enhancement to find a challenge when at that point he probably wasn’t the strongest nen user yet.
@@zagessj Yeah sure
No it isn't lmao, Razor literally debunks this.
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That nen chart at the start isn't canon.
Togashi literally made it
No he didn't, it was made by fans which Togashi signed, I think the same thing happened with the databooks and the movie, both of which aren't canon. @@zagessj
In terms of raw strength, so far no other character would’ve stand a chance against Meruem. Because of that, even past his prime, I believe Netero was the strongest human in the series.
P.S. they say Maha equaled peak Netero, but considering the timeline, he would also be way past his prime was during the Chimera Ant Arc.
I would say, we can get comparison between netero and adult gon attack.
Both of em attack pitou, but with a single kick adult gon can give serious damage to pitou which netero can't get it from a single blow of bodyshatva's attack
So adult gon definitely far more powerful than netero bodyshatva in his old age
Most definitely
Netero didn't use his most powerful hand while Gon certainly did
I said gon kicked pitou vs bodyshatva hit pitou. Both of them were pushing pitou far away. Adult Gon didn't even use special kick or nen use to do it, when Netero absolutely used bodyshatva attack (special attack) . It was clear that Adult gon's kick damage pitou more than Netero body shatva, because pitou couldn't even do anything with gon's kick while she could use Dr. Blythe when pushed away by Netero bodyshatva
@@Parth-gx1nw kick vs bodyshatva
No way bro thinks Adult Gon can do anything against Netero. Even old one💀