Update on the touch not working with external monitor: The fix is to go into Control Panel - Tablet PC Settings - Setup - Touch Input, then touch the touchscreen to let Windows know that the tablet is the touchscreen and not the external display.
The pressure sensitivity is actually instable! INSTABLE ! (use constant forcen 8% for instance, and check the movement of the signal in the driver interface to see, especially with low pressure force)
Excellent review. It’s indeed impressive and all of your suggestions to Huion are on point: reduce the weight, add another usb-c connection, make space for SD cards… I’d add an OLED display and at least 500 nits of brightness. I’ve been thinking about the price, considering it’s a full laptop operating system and one of its kind, but it’s still too much due to all those things we mentioned. Had it been slimmer, with a better display, then maybe, but if Huion wanted to disrupt te tablet industry, it should’ve reduced that price significantly. My two cents.
The thing about a competitive market is that if you stand out too much, richer players can hit you hard. You can't dump sale too much if your quality is on par with the other player. Huion prices were low because they were inferior in some ways, but now that they have top-tier pen quality, they can't keep it low. The Kamvas Studio series has surpassed both the Surface tablet and the iPad Pro in terms of performance. Huion cannot afford to take the risk of being targeted by so many giant enemies on the market. Competitive is only beneficial to customers when all players can play fairly.
I purchased the Studio 16 mostly due to this review and used the affiliate link so hopefully you recuperate some of the money back because this thing is expensive, but hopefully worth it. I will say its taking forever for them to process its been like 2-3 weeks already.
Really appreciate your support. I'm still using it and I really enjoy using it. You may want to test the finger gesture support with 2, 3, 4 finger shortcuts (with Concepts app) and turn off Window's own 3-4 finger shortcuts. If that doesn't work, contact Huion for a firmware update to the driver. Other than that, no other main issues. I realised I kinda like using this tablet vertically when web browsing or writing.
@@cornonthecob9294 I gave the studio 16 as a gift to my sister when she graduated art school. She seems to like it, already making commissions. The only problems are the battery died in less than a year but is usable when plugged in, luckily warranty is valid and is getting fixed, and the speakers are poor. Main things she likes is the felt pen tip and the portability of a computer tablet. Only thing I have against it is they changed the keypad gift with some plastic figure so that’s an extra expense. So far would recommend the studio 16 hope they get a new model with improvements though.
The price really took me off guard, I figured they'd make it much more expensive but still $1,700 is a bit much for this. You can get a Lenovo Yoga 16in for $1,100 and that's been on sale for $900 & is a 2-in-1 so it's got the kb+more ports and can be a tablet. Pen support is pretty good with Lenovo as well, so I just don't see the justification to grab this over a 2-in-1. I love Huion's stuff, I've been using their Kamvas 22 Plus and it's great but- $1700 is way, way too high. Then again this seems to be more priced in the tablet market and they're all kinds of pricey. I really wanted something like this from Huion but I just can't justify this kind of cost. Especially given the way it's built there's no way to service this and I've seen some tablets self destruct with the battery buckling the frame and screen.
Even worse, in Canada, this model will run you $400 CAD (about 300 US dollars) /more/ than the USD->CAD exchange. Huion is asking Canadians to pay $2100 USD for it.
Thanks for the in depth review on this. I feel like the Samsung Book pro 3 360 pretty much outclasses this device in most respects for a windows device, but since this is just a first try by Huion, and they've really shown that they have been trying hard to be competitive in this space over the years, it gives me hope for future iterations. The only thing you didn't touch on in this review that I am curious about is how the pen accuracy is near the edges of the screen. I have the Kamvas pro 13 2.5k version and I love everything about it except for how bad the pen accuracy is when I am not near the center. It makes using menu's and picking tools along the edge of the screen very annoying when the cursor is nowhere near the tip of the pen.
I was thinking this, but also I'm having a really hard time finding a store that will ship the book3 pro 360 to where I live so I may have to settle for this
I get the feeling HUION has been watching the way you test , so they get everything right BEFORE shipping things out. GREAT to see they are customer focused.
For the very old Huion products that I have reviewed, there is a long list of pros and cons. Over the years, I noticed the list of cons become shorter. Nowadays it’s difficult to pick up downsides to mention. And that is good of course. For reviewers like me, it saves a lot of time due to lack of troubleshooting.
Thanks for the review, it seems like a very interesting device, but it's 2023, not 2020. Bezels are gone, a real16" is the new screen size and battery life of the 2022/23 cpu's have improved so much. I wouldn't have an issue with the thick bezels, outdated hardware, old 15.6" screen size and lack of ports if the price was accordingly. That's where this whole deal falls apart and I really don't see why Huion did overprice this unit so much. When they announced this at first I got really excited, knowing how competitive Huion usually is. I figured with the hardware they are using, which is nothing special, but rather outdated, the price would be around $1300 in the US and around €1400 here in Europe. Yes, we pay more in the EU, but not 44% more as Huion wants us to believe, that is, as you stated, insane, absolutely absurd. While I love Huion products and have been using them for years, this device is a huge let down for me. If this was priced around €1400, I would actually buy it, even though that would still be too much for it, since comparable hardware costs less, but I would live with that. As someone else said, buying something like a Lenovo IdeaPad Flex or Yoga is a way better option. I put money aside for the Huion Kamvas Studio 16, but not €2299, since this is not worth that price. Sorry Huion, but I went with the newest Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 Gen 8 instead. It has everything the Studio 16 lacks, but costs €1100 less. For that €1100 less I get the latest AMD Ryzen 7 7730u (8 cores - 16 threads), 1 TB of storage, 16" display, more ports and a SD-Card slot and a lot longer battery life. As an artist I went with the 2560 x 1600 100% sRGB screen and got the pen with it. I've got a Kamvas 16 2021, but that Lenovo 16" screen with 16:10 ratio is a huge improvement for an artist that's doing a lot of art for print. The new Flex 5 Gen 8 with lesser Ryzen 5 7530U with upgraded screen is less than €1000 here in Europe, but still easily out-performs the Studio 16. I was happy to pay €180 for the better cpu/gpu and double the storage, since 512Gb doesn't work for me in 2023 as a creative artist... though if the Huion Kamvas Studio 16 would have had a more competitive price, I would have dealt with the 512Gb.
The pressure sensitivity is actually instable! INSTABLE ! (use constant force and check the movement of the signal in the driver interface to see, especially with low pressure force)
Great review. This looks like a competitor to Wacom's Mobile Studio tablets. Those are about twice the price. Still, if this were 30 % cheaper or so I think it'd be more interesting.
man it's very impressive detailed review. the new pen is insteresting, it looks very responsive, I also read that the new pen supports on previous 2.5k series pen display. have you tried it?
I no longer have the 2.5K pen displays so I can't test. Best to wait till the pen appears for sale on Huion website to check the supported models it can work with.
Hmmm! at first I was eager to buy this product but after watching your review.. you save me! battery is a big draw back for me.. to think your only using brightness at around 25% to 50%.. 4 hours is not enough. would be great if it was 8 hours atleast. Thank you Brother!
Super detailed review...❤️ Honestly it is a product that looks great and in my opinion makes more sense than the bulky 24 inches studio... Nevertheless I feel that the HDMI problem you mentioned is a bit sad and overall the specs of this device are not fantastic... In addition the touch problem you showed in the video could be a bit annoying because it disrupts the work flow... It is funny because when I look at it I become like Golum and I want my precious but as soon I think about these details I hold myself back... 😅
That's the only HDMI-USB adapter I have to test. So I can't confirm if it's that specific adapter that does not work or all HDMI-USB adapters don't work.
Hi Teoh, Thanks for your complete reviews. It will help a lot of people. I wanted to know if animation or video software like After Effect, Premiere or Adobe Animate could work well on the Kamvas Studio 16, please? And how is it to work on software not designed with hand gestures? Can you be productive? I come from ipad pro and I use drawing and animation apps. Today I’m limited with my creations that’s why I need to go with Windows tablet. Thank you! Have a good day!
All the Adobe apps should run alright. Video editing with Premiere may not be idea because the specs isn't really suited for video editing but 1080P video editing should be alright. Only those Adobe apps that work with pens will have some form of finger gesture support. But mostly it's just limited to pan, zoom, rotate for drawing. Most times it's more productive to use keyboard shortcuts.
@@teohyc Thank you for your answer Teoh. You’re so reactive. You win a subscriber more. 👍 I think I can deal with the few finger gesture because I really need to go with After effect and Adobe Animate.
I got my Kamavas studio 16 😀... Built quality is premium and I think they have made harder the hinge because it is quite stable. My learning curve for this device will not be smooth because I use to work with an intuos Pro Large and a 32 inches BenQ monitor 4k. It means I have to re calibrate my workflow and get used to draw directly on the monitor. I have a question, the driver are already installed or should I search for them? 😀
The driver is already installed and should be visible on your desktop. When you reset the tablet to factory settings, the driver should also install automatically again. If there is no driver, you can find it on Huion's website.
I think for the price, it loses to the Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro 360, which has a 12th generation i7 processor and Wacom EMR pen. There's also a new generation out, Book3, with a 13th generation processor.
This review was excellent. Thank you! Do you think the price will increase or decrease after the presale period ends? Also, they offer a 10% discount for students and educators which would bring the U.S. price down to $1530. Would you say this is a good deal?
The price is very likely remain $1699. If you can get it at education price, it's a decent deal. I've been using this for more than a month now and it's good. All the pros and cons are still the same as mentioned in the video. I've been using the tablet quite often in vertical mode while writing and it's real convenient. If you do buy this, remember to use my affiliate to support my channel.
huion are just testing the waters on this one. Their pen tablets and displays are doing great so it's time to attack the pen computer arena. Will the consumers bite at that price point? Are they shying away from being a budget alternative into a premium one like wacom?
I hope they get a better battery life right know it’s the same as my Wacom mobile studio which I don’t use as much since my I pad pro has a way better battery life but a computer pen is way better for drawing on :(
Thanks for the review, a bit long but definitely I like you took the time to go through its features. The battery is a great minus point though, but I also wondering about the storage, is 512 GB enough to run most of your apps? how is it feel the surface when drawing compare to a Wacom Cintiq? Anyways thanks again.
512GB is definitely more than sufficient for installing drawing apps. And also enough for storing files unless your art files are huge and you create them often. But even if you run out of storage, you can get external SSD or Microsoft OneDrive cloud storage 1TB (recommended for storage and backup). I cannot remember what the surface is like on the Wacom Cintiq so I can’t say much.
Not sure how good the S Pen from that laptop is compared to the Huion pen. The main selling point here is the pen because otherwise one can just get the Surface Pro is pen performance is not crucial.
@@teohontech7141 Actually i have the book 2 360 pro. And lets say that the s pen has the same wacom one(screen tablet pen) technology, and is perfect. I have a huion kamvas 13 2020, they are same quality. Maybe this is even better because whenever i rotate and incline the pen, up down left or right , the cursor is always wxactly under the tip, which doesnt happen with my 13 kamvas . So the s pen is a wacom pen really, and i am not using the s pen cause i put a plastic screen protector and the rubber of the s pen started to deteriorate because of the protector. So i got the wacom one pen instead(which is only plastic) and works the same as the s pen, it has one button like the s pen and the coordination is the same. So its very precise and accurated. i thought it would be different but no, its the same technology and everything is the same, if you play with both pens the computer doesnt know the difference. Its been a year for now and its going good with the wacom pen on the samsung. The battery is cool, but i use it on if i travel, most of the time i use it as my main workstation. I work in the anime industry as an animator, and i am very happy with it. Of course it not for super heavy things, but for just normal and a bit oh general heavy work it get the job done well.The cpu is good enough for my anime animation work and every general task like photoshop and illustration of big canvaseses with multiple layers. The full hd is enough for 16 inch. And the notebook is super super light. Maybe a 2k would have been better but it would have drain the battery. So full hd looks nice on 16.
@@mo_iro wow. I hope I haven’t played myself. I should have waited till fully in stock. On the site they keep pushing the shipping date. It’s now at APRIL 10
@@WORKOFBINUS I also bought this product a few days ago. After asking customer service, they replied that orders placed after the 8th will be shipped on April 10th. I am already looking forward to the surprise it brings me.
I don't use Zbrush so I can't test that. You can search online for Zbrush performance with other laptops (from 2021) that use the 11th gen Intel processor and Intel Iris Xe and the performance should be similar.
Hello, great video and very informative, thank you. I know it's not very common, but does the bluetooth drawing pad work with it (like the Bamboo one)?
What’s it like sketching on Medibang with it, specifically using the Pencil brush? Is the flow consistent, with the lines coming out bolder and/or lighter depending on how much pressure I put on the pen?
Do you have a review on the Acer concept d7? With these kind of prices, I'm thinking if it's just better to go full out for a machine that can do everything and not just draw.
For the finger gestures bug that affects the main monitor, is it possible to change the windows setting to detect which one is the touch display? I had to do this for my XP Pen Artist Pro 16TP.
It's been a month since I ordered this product, but it still hasn't moved on to the delivery stage. Q&A inquiries are not working and I can't send a message to Huion in any way, so I left a question as a product review...I wonder how you were able to receive it so quickly. Is there a separate purchase method for reviewers?
I also bought this product a few days ago. After asking customer service, they replied that orders placed after the 8th will be shipped on April 10th. I am already looking forward to the surprise it brings me.
@설렁설렁 Has it already arrived? I also bought it recently and they said they will have more notices for the next month since it was out of stock I saw someone on twitter who waited 2 months for it to arrive
What was the name of the software used have the kamvas become a secondary screen for your laptop. Also, could I then use the kamvas as a pen display for my desktop?
hi Teoh on Tech! What is the difference with the PW517 stylus compared to the new PW550S stylus? Is it possible to use the new PW550S stylus with Kamvas Pro 24(4K) will it work better?
I would love to get one of these but with how fast Huion makes new models makes me wonder if i should invest in getting this now or wait for a newer model with the kinks ironed out.
Huion released the Kamvas Studio 22 pen computer before and that did not have a 2nd gen. b2b.huion.com/products/educational/Kamvas-Studio-22.html So I'm not sure if this will have a 2nd gen.
if huion wants to be the best and grow up , they need a better global support , and have a USA warehouse with all their productcs , Global Amazon with all their products too , so more people can adopt their products ,
Huion has better pen performance when drawing with minimal pressure. E.g. lines are able to taper more smoothly, easier to draw thinner lines with consistency. Anyway, the main difference between the two is whether you need WindowsOS
I think your problem you had in 16:28 with the touch controls affecting the wrong monitor are a problem with Windows 11 itself and how it manages the order of each display. Once you hook up more than one monitor it will automatically embed the touch inputs to the display windows considers as the primary one. And you need to go to Control Panel and look for the Tablet Settings tab. There you can set which display will detect the touch inputs from your device. I had this same issue on an XP Pen tablet that has Touch screen functions as well. Hope this helps!
@@teohontech7141 I am also a windows fan, but there are not enough powerful operating systems in these tools yet. It uses a 2 year old cpu and gpu, maybe it would be preferable if it was a more up-to-date system.
Way too expensive for what you're getting. It's a shame...There's other windows tablets out now with better specs for the same price. The Galaxy book 3 pro 360 has better screen, processor , and has wacom pen tech and cost the same.
I've not tested the S Pen from that Book3 Pro 360 so I can't say much. But if that S Pen performs the same as the S Pen from their tablets, then the performance may not be good enough for some artists.
@@teohontech7141 Brad colbow did a review of it, and it seems to be at least as good as the apple pencil. So even if the pen is a tiny bit better, you're getting better specs on the galaxy with everything else. Better processor ,3k 16: 10 oled screen, bigger battery , more ports. I feel like huion is over charging for this because they think they can...there's also the Surface laptop studio. Cost around this price for the i7 version and has a dedicated gpu. If you need power you would get these. If you just want to draw get a ipad. Who is this product for, for this price?
@@HissatsuNeko The selling point here is the pen performance AND Windows OS. If the Samsung S Pen can match the performance of the Huion pen, then it's almost impossible for the Huion to compete. The S Pen performance can be considered on par with Apple Pencil. But they are not as good as the Huion or Wacom pens. Some artists need that extra level of accuracy. If you don't know whether you need that extra level of accuracy, you don't. And if you don't, it's great because you can save so much more money with other options you have mentioned. If you want to just want to draw, iPad and Samsung Android tablets are good. But if you want to do more? Window OS is needed. There's no page layout programs on iPad, all the tablet versions of desktop apps have limited features, no proper external display support, limited multi-tasking features, limitations with file management, and I can go on and on.
@@HissatsuNeko Wacom Pro Pen 2 is marginally better than Huion PW517. Both the Wacom Pro Pen and the Huion PW517 outperform the Samsung S-Pen. And the Samsung S-Pen is superior to the Apple Pencil 2. That is my experience, and I have all of them. The PW550 may be comparable to or better than the Wacom Pro Pen 2, so the price is reasonable by industry standards.
@@teohontech7141 You're right! But that's the point i'm making. The huion pen isn't so drastically better to pay $500 more than other similar windows pen tablets that have the same or even better specs. The s pen is atleast as good as the apple pencil. If i need performance and windows os i would buy the product that has the better specs. So who is this product for at this price? Would Someone who could afford this amount pay $500 more for a marginally better pen but worse everything else? No, they would get the highest end windows tablet. But if you can't afford this , you wouldn't buy it anyway. Huion failed on the pricing.
@@teohontech7141 I wish I knew... The "white" on both is just hitting my eyes. Something is wrong with the lighting. Tried everything to adjust it. Amoled phone also was killing me. I bought IPS LCD TFT smartphone and it's great. Lenovo legion pc and all others before it was fine. Any simple tv or monitor also ok. Something has changed in this years in screen technologies and I just spending bunch of money trying to find a drawing touch tablet.
@@breeze9248 One thing about phones is the screen is small so even when bright, they will not look as glaring as tablets or monitors when bright which can get really bright.
There are numerous negative comments about this tablet in the comment section. Would you, for example, pay $4000 USD for a forklift? If you can't afford it or don't see why you should, it's not for you and you don't need it. I just wanted to point out that, by industry standards, this price is quite reasonable. You want durable tools at a reasonable price. These tools are not toys; they are for people who make money. You should approach these tools with an industrial mindset rather than a consumerist one. If you're curious, you can look up how much a forklift costs.
Yeah but i wouldn't pay double for it. There's just better " price to performance" options. This only makes sense if you were willing buy a mobile studio pro , which has old parts too, and wanted to save some cash
@@nocturnalbluerose You're underestimating Intel's 11th core i7 1165G7's performance. 2D drawing programs are still primarily reliant on a single core, and this mobile core i7 can turbo to 4.7 Ghz, which is the same as the i7-9700 desktop. Yes, it is a little old, but it is not out of date. You don't need the latest specs to work. To make money, you don't need all the bells and whistles. It's not for the average costumer, but rather a tool for industry. As you said, "you" won't pay for it, you are not the target of this product. Nobody is forcing "you" to buy this. Mobile Studio Pro is out of date and still prohibitively expensive. If you can get a "Mobile Studio Pro 16" with an 8th generation core i7 for less than $1500 USD with no warranty, good for you! It also has one of the highest failure rates among Wacom products. So, good luck!
@@nocturnalbluerose For those who can't see the value of this over the iPad Pro probably don't need that extra level of accuracy with the pen and can save the money. This product is more for those who want the Surface Pro because they need Windows OS but cannot accept the line quality from the Microsoft Slim Pen 2.
@@nocturnalbluerose It's because the majority of them have already purchased the tablet and are not complaining on the internet. If you can't see something and believe it doesn't exist, you lack object permanence.
Update on the touch not working with external monitor:
The fix is to go into Control Panel - Tablet PC Settings - Setup - Touch Input, then touch the touchscreen to let Windows know that the tablet is the touchscreen and not the external display.
The pressure sensitivity is actually instable!
INSTABLE ! (use constant forcen 8% for instance, and check the movement of the signal in the driver interface to see, especially with low pressure force)
Excellent review. It’s indeed impressive and all of your suggestions to Huion are on point: reduce the weight, add another usb-c connection, make space for SD cards… I’d add an OLED display and at least 500 nits of brightness. I’ve been thinking about the price, considering it’s a full laptop operating system and one of its kind, but it’s still too much due to all those things we mentioned. Had it been slimmer, with a better display, then maybe, but if Huion wanted to disrupt te tablet industry, it should’ve reduced that price significantly. My two cents.
The thing about a competitive market is that if you stand out too much, richer players can hit you hard.
You can't dump sale too much if your quality is on par with the other player. Huion prices were low because they were inferior in some ways, but now that they have top-tier pen quality, they can't keep it low. The Kamvas Studio series has surpassed both the Surface tablet and the iPad Pro in terms of performance. Huion cannot afford to take the risk of being targeted by so many giant enemies on the market.
Competitive is only beneficial to customers when all players can play fairly.
no oled please
@@breeze9248 whats bad about oled?
idk, with the prices on laptops and display tablets if this had been out before xmas last year i would have bought it just for the portability alone.
I really want to love this, but I think I will be waiting for a second generation.
You shouldn’t be surprise that will happen in 2-3 years
@@iKillSection Thats ok, ill just enjoy the ipad for now i think
100% same thoughts lol. More so I’m waiting for them to make a 24” 4k display w touch. If that gets released, I’ll 100% be buying that day one.
I’d wait too but my Wacom mobile 13 is dying and I can’t afford the mobile 16 so this is the next best option 😭
I purchased the Studio 16 mostly due to this review and used the affiliate link so hopefully you recuperate some of the money back because this thing is expensive, but hopefully worth it. I will say its taking forever for them to process its been like 2-3 weeks already.
Really appreciate your support. I'm still using it and I really enjoy using it. You may want to test the finger gesture support with 2, 3, 4 finger shortcuts (with Concepts app) and turn off Window's own 3-4 finger shortcuts. If that doesn't work, contact Huion for a firmware update to the driver.
Other than that, no other main issues. I realised I kinda like using this tablet vertically when web browsing or writing.
Hello, I'm thinking of purchasing it too, how is your experience with it so far? Battery life, running applications, etc?
@@cornonthecob9294 I gave the studio 16 as a gift to my sister when she graduated art school. She seems to like it, already making commissions. The only problems are the battery died in less than a year but is usable when plugged in, luckily warranty is valid and is getting fixed, and the speakers are poor. Main things she likes is the felt pen tip and the portability of a computer tablet. Only thing I have against it is they changed the keypad gift with some plastic figure so that’s an extra expense. So far would recommend the studio 16 hope they get a new model with improvements though.
This is such a detailed review. You didn't miss anything. All the questions I have, you've answered. Thank you
I loved it.. you and brad both are doing awesome job..
The pen looks fantastic, as I can see, the lines are clean.
Omg you got one!!!!
I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your review videos. Thanks for this
Detailed and greatly engaging way of narration.
Thank you for your work, Teoh!
The price really took me off guard, I figured they'd make it much more expensive but still $1,700 is a bit much for this. You can get a Lenovo Yoga 16in for $1,100 and that's been on sale for $900 & is a 2-in-1 so it's got the kb+more ports and can be a tablet. Pen support is pretty good with Lenovo as well, so I just don't see the justification to grab this over a 2-in-1.
I love Huion's stuff, I've been using their Kamvas 22 Plus and it's great but- $1700 is way, way too high. Then again this seems to be more priced in the tablet market and they're all kinds of pricey.
I really wanted something like this from Huion but I just can't justify this kind of cost. Especially given the way it's built there's no way to service this and I've seen some tablets self destruct with the battery buckling the frame and screen.
Huion really saw Wacom's 4000 buck tablet and thought huh maybe we can rqaise the price astronomically too
Even worse, in Canada, this model will run you $400 CAD (about 300 US dollars) /more/ than the USD->CAD exchange. Huion is asking Canadians to pay $2100 USD for it.
In EU it's 2300€ 💀. I was actually thinking that at 1700$ it's kinda competitive with the high-end surface pro 9.
Thanks for the in depth review on this. I feel like the Samsung Book pro 3 360 pretty much outclasses this device in most respects for a windows device, but since this is just a first try by Huion, and they've really shown that they have been trying hard to be competitive in this space over the years, it gives me hope for future iterations.
The only thing you didn't touch on in this review that I am curious about is how the pen accuracy is near the edges of the screen. I have the Kamvas pro 13 2.5k version and I love everything about it except for how bad the pen accuracy is when I am not near the center. It makes using menu's and picking tools along the edge of the screen very annoying when the cursor is nowhere near the tip of the pen.
Cursor tracking at the edge is good. I don't have problems pressing on small icons or scrolls bars.
@@teohontech7141 thanks!
I was thinking this, but also I'm having a really hard time finding a store that will ship the book3 pro 360 to where I live so I may have to settle for this
I get the feeling HUION has been watching the way you test ,
so they get everything right BEFORE shipping things out.
GREAT to see they are customer focused.
For the very old Huion products that I have reviewed, there is a long list of pros and cons. Over the years, I noticed the list of cons become shorter. Nowadays it’s difficult to pick up downsides to mention. And that is good of course. For reviewers like me, it saves a lot of time due to lack of troubleshooting.
Thanks for the review, it seems like a very interesting device, but it's 2023, not 2020. Bezels are gone, a real16" is the new screen size and battery life of the 2022/23 cpu's have improved so much. I wouldn't have an issue with the thick bezels, outdated hardware, old 15.6" screen size and lack of ports if the price was accordingly. That's where this whole deal falls apart and I really don't see why Huion did overprice this unit so much.
When they announced this at first I got really excited, knowing how competitive Huion usually is. I figured with the hardware they are using, which is nothing special, but rather outdated, the price would be around $1300 in the US and around €1400 here in Europe. Yes, we pay more in the EU, but not 44% more as Huion wants us to believe, that is, as you stated, insane, absolutely absurd. While I love Huion products and have been using them for years, this device is a huge let down for me. If this was priced around €1400, I would actually buy it, even though that would still be too much for it, since comparable hardware costs less, but I would live with that.
As someone else said, buying something like a Lenovo IdeaPad Flex or Yoga is a way better option. I put money aside for the Huion Kamvas Studio 16, but not €2299, since this is not worth that price. Sorry Huion, but I went with the newest Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 Gen 8 instead. It has everything the Studio 16 lacks, but costs €1100 less. For that €1100 less I get the latest AMD Ryzen 7 7730u (8 cores - 16 threads), 1 TB of storage, 16" display, more ports and a SD-Card slot and a lot longer battery life. As an artist I went with the 2560 x 1600 100% sRGB screen and got the pen with it. I've got a Kamvas 16 2021, but that Lenovo 16" screen with 16:10 ratio is a huge improvement for an artist that's doing a lot of art for print.
The new Flex 5 Gen 8 with lesser Ryzen 5 7530U with upgraded screen is less than €1000 here in Europe, but still easily out-performs the Studio 16. I was happy to pay €180 for the better cpu/gpu and double the storage, since 512Gb doesn't work for me in 2023 as a creative artist... though if the Huion Kamvas Studio 16 would have had a more competitive price, I would have dealt with the 512Gb.
The pressure sensitivity is actually instable!
INSTABLE ! (use constant force and check the movement of the signal in the driver interface to see, especially with low pressure force)
Great review. This looks like a competitor to Wacom's Mobile Studio tablets. Those are about twice the price. Still, if this were 30 % cheaper or so I think it'd be more interesting.
man it's very impressive detailed review. the new pen is insteresting, it looks very responsive, I also read that the new pen supports on previous 2.5k series pen display. have you tried it?
I no longer have the 2.5K pen displays so I can't test. Best to wait till the pen appears for sale on Huion website to check the supported models it can work with.
bit too pricey for a first gen for me. although looking forward to the future of these devices
Hmmm! at first I was eager to buy this product but after watching your review.. you save me! battery is a big draw back for me.. to think your only using brightness at around 25% to 50%.. 4 hours is not enough. would be great if it was 8 hours atleast. Thank you Brother!
The 4-5 hours battery life may be a deal breaker if you have to work away from a power source for extended period of time.
Now... That's Awesome from Huion... They should have the four holes insert for a deck arm...
Still waiting for a non-studio pendisplay that have touch from huion so that I can use it as my second screen.
Super detailed review...❤️ Honestly it is a product that looks great and in my opinion makes more sense than the bulky 24 inches studio... Nevertheless I feel that the HDMI problem you mentioned is a bit sad and overall the specs of this device are not fantastic... In addition the touch problem you showed in the video could be a bit annoying because it disrupts the work flow... It is funny because when I look at it I become like Golum and I want my precious but as soon I think about these details I hold myself back... 😅
That's the only HDMI-USB adapter I have to test. So I can't confirm if it's that specific adapter that does not work or all HDMI-USB adapters don't work.
@@teohontech7141 thank you so much for your super fast answer. You are probably the best! 🥰
Hi Teoh,
Thanks for your complete reviews.
It will help a lot of people.
I wanted to know if animation or video software like After Effect, Premiere or Adobe Animate could work well on the Kamvas Studio 16, please?
And how is it to work on software not designed with hand gestures? Can you be productive?
I come from ipad pro and I use drawing and animation apps.
Today I’m limited with my creations that’s why I need to go with Windows tablet.
Thank you!
Have a good day!
All the Adobe apps should run alright. Video editing with Premiere may not be idea because the specs isn't really suited for video editing but 1080P video editing should be alright.
Only those Adobe apps that work with pens will have some form of finger gesture support. But mostly it's just limited to pan, zoom, rotate for drawing. Most times it's more productive to use keyboard shortcuts.
@@teohyc Thank you for your answer Teoh. You’re so reactive. You win a subscriber more. 👍
I think I can deal with the few finger gesture because I really need to go with After effect and Adobe Animate.
@@teohyc Do you think the Huion K20 can help for shortcuts in that case?
I got my Kamavas studio 16 😀... Built quality is premium and I think they have made harder the hinge because it is quite stable. My learning curve for this device will not be smooth because I use to work with an intuos Pro Large and a 32 inches BenQ monitor 4k. It means I have to re calibrate my workflow and get used to draw directly on the monitor. I have a question, the driver are already installed or should I search for them? 😀
The driver is already installed and should be visible on your desktop. When you reset the tablet to factory settings, the driver should also install automatically again. If there is no driver, you can find it on Huion's website.
Thank you so much!!! 😀
Waiting for a second iteration of this device or if Wacom comes out with something to replace the mobilestudio pro
thanks for your intro , helpful , seems like a alternative of surface studio 14.4
I think for the price, it loses to the Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro 360, which has a 12th generation i7 processor and Wacom EMR pen. There's also a new generation out, Book3, with a 13th generation processor.
This review was excellent. Thank you! Do you think the price will increase or decrease after the presale period ends? Also, they offer a 10% discount for students and educators which would bring the U.S. price down to $1530. Would you say this is a good deal?
The price is very likely remain $1699. If you can get it at education price, it's a decent deal. I've been using this for more than a month now and it's good. All the pros and cons are still the same as mentioned in the video. I've been using the tablet quite often in vertical mode while writing and it's real convenient.
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@@teohontech7141 Thanks so much for the quick reply. And yes, I'll use the link if I decide to buy.
huion are just testing the waters on this one. Their pen tablets and displays are doing great so it's time to attack the pen computer arena. Will the consumers bite at that price point? Are they shying away from being a budget alternative into a premium one like wacom?
Hi and thanks for the great review! Can I use a larger Huion 24 pen display with this device? Thanks again for your feedback.
Yes
I hope they get a better battery life right know it’s the same as my Wacom mobile studio which I don’t use as much since my I pad pro has a way better battery life but a computer pen is way better for drawing on :(
@Teoh on Tech : may i ask, what app you're using at 11.40 ? when you write the word concepts in green
The app is Concepts 😂
Thanks for the review, a bit long but definitely I like you took the time to go through its features. The battery is a great minus point though, but I also wondering about the storage, is 512 GB enough to run most of your apps? how is it feel the surface when drawing compare to a Wacom Cintiq? Anyways thanks again.
512GB is definitely more than sufficient for installing drawing apps. And also enough for storing files unless your art files are huge and you create them often. But even if you run out of storage, you can get external SSD or Microsoft OneDrive cloud storage 1TB (recommended for storage and backup).
I cannot remember what the surface is like on the Wacom Cintiq so I can’t say much.
thank you
The samsung galaxy book pro 2 and 3 360 is a lot cheaper and they have better battery .
Not sure how good the S Pen from that laptop is compared to the Huion pen. The main selling point here is the pen because otherwise one can just get the Surface Pro is pen performance is not crucial.
@@teohontech7141 Actually i have the book 2 360 pro. And lets say that the s pen has the same wacom one(screen tablet pen) technology, and is perfect. I have a huion kamvas 13 2020, they are same quality. Maybe this is even better because whenever i rotate and incline the pen, up down left or right , the cursor is always wxactly under the tip, which doesnt happen with my 13 kamvas
. So the s pen is a wacom pen really, and i am not using the s pen cause i put a plastic screen protector and the rubber of the s pen started to deteriorate because of the protector. So i got the wacom one pen instead(which is only plastic) and works the same as the s pen, it has one button like the s pen and the coordination is the same. So its very precise and accurated. i thought it would be different but no, its the same technology and everything is the same, if you play with both pens the computer doesnt know the difference. Its been a year for now and its going good with the wacom pen on the samsung. The battery is cool, but i use it on if i travel, most of the time i use it as my main workstation. I work in the anime industry as an animator, and i am very happy with it. Of course it not for super heavy things, but for just normal and a bit oh general heavy work it get the job done well.The cpu is good enough for my anime animation work and every general task like photoshop and illustration of big canvaseses with multiple layers. The full hd is enough for 16 inch. And the notebook is super super light. Maybe a 2k would have been better but it would have drain the battery. So full hd looks nice on 16.
Kraków ❤
as far as the feel of the pen on the screen, is it just like the regular display pen or closer the feel of the Surface pro screen feel??
More like Surface Pro
Great in depth review. Do you think its able to attach an external GPU?
USB 3.2 is not fast enough to support eGPU
Hi. Thanks for the review of this tablet. I found it quite useful. Did you have a chance to try Samsung Book3 pro 360?
That laptop is not sold here so I can't test
I ordered the Kamvas 24 Studio it seems there’s a delay in shipping ..
I ordered this a month ago and haven't even shipped it yet.
@@mo_iro wow. I hope I haven’t played myself. I should have waited till fully in stock.
On the site they keep pushing the shipping date. It’s now at APRIL 10
@@WORKOFBINUS I also bought this product a few days ago. After asking customer service, they replied that orders placed after the 8th will be shipped on April 10th. I am already looking forward to the surprise it brings me.
@@AnakinJJ oh dear, I ordered on 10th now I have to wait 🙁
thank you brother!
Is it possible for you to do a demo of Huion Kamvas Studio 16 with Zbrush? Please
I don't use Zbrush so I can't test that. You can search online for Zbrush performance with other laptops (from 2021) that use the 11th gen Intel processor and Intel Iris Xe and the performance should be similar.
Hi there! Great review! How about it as a Wacom Mobilestudio Pro 16 alternative?
This works really well. Only limitation is the 4 hour battery life
@@teohontech7141 Thanks!
Hello, great video and very informative, thank you.
I know it's not very common, but does the bluetooth drawing pad work with it (like the Bamboo one)?
Bluetooth works
@@teohontech7141 Thank you so much!
Just wondering, since I'm an artist who also games a lot, would this be good for gaming too?
Less graphics intensive games should be alright. Don't expect to play graphics intensive 3D games.
What’s it like sketching on Medibang with it, specifically using the Pencil brush? Is the flow consistent, with the lines coming out bolder and/or lighter depending on how much pressure I put on the pen?
Works well. There's pressure sensitivity but no tilt. So for pencil, lines will be darker
@@teohontech7141 I see. Thanks!
Do you have a review on the Acer concept d7? With these kind of prices, I'm thinking if it's just better to go full out for a machine that can do everything and not just draw.
I've not reviewed the Acer Concept D7 before. From the specs, it looks like great laptop. I just don't like the 16:9 aspect ratio display that's all
@@teohontech7141 That's a shame since I think your reviews are some of the best out here on RUclips, but I understand
Sweet
For the finger gestures bug that affects the main monitor, is it possible to change the windows setting to detect which one is the touch display? I had to do this for my XP Pen Artist Pro 16TP.
Doesn't seem possible with this version of Huion driver
It's been a month since I ordered this product, but it still hasn't moved on to the delivery stage. Q&A inquiries are not working and I can't send a message to Huion in any way, so I left a question as a product review...I wonder how you were able to receive it so quickly. Is there a separate purchase method for reviewers?
I ordered from the product page also.
I also bought this product a few days ago. After asking customer service, they replied that orders placed after the 8th will be shipped on April 10th. I am already looking forward to the surprise it brings me.
@@AnakinJJ I bought this feb 15th... already wait for a month and they saying wait another month....This is insane. 2 month for buying...?
@설렁설렁 Has it already arrived? I also bought it recently and they said they will have more notices for the next month since it was out of stock
I saw someone on twitter who waited 2 months for it to arrive
I think this is pretty good first pass. Probably requires a quick keys solution for some apps.
There's a new product LincStudio S1 coming up soon and it has hotkeys by the sides.
thanks for the review! do you know if it is possible to connect this tablet to a projector or tv screen via hdmi?
Yes, should be possible.
hey teoh could you do a zbrush sculpting test on this tablet? im curious how far you can push this with respect yo high poly sculpting
I don't use zbrush so I can't test that
What was the name of the software used have the kamvas become a secondary screen for your laptop. Also, could I then use the kamvas as a pen display for my desktop?
Concepts concepts.app/en/
hi Teoh on Tech!
What is the difference with the PW517 stylus compared to the new PW550S stylus?
Is it possible to use the new PW550S stylus with Kamvas Pro 24(4K) will it work better?
I'm not sure if the pens are interchangeable. The PW517 is a good pen. I don't see the need to buy another pen.
I would love to get one of these but with how fast Huion makes new models makes me wonder if i should invest in getting this now or wait for a newer model with the kinks ironed out.
Huion released the Kamvas Studio 22 pen computer before and that did not have a 2nd gen. b2b.huion.com/products/educational/Kamvas-Studio-22.html
So I'm not sure if this will have a 2nd gen.
@@teohontech7141 Good to know! Thank you 😄
if huion wants to be the best and grow up , they need a better global support , and have a USA warehouse with all their productcs , Global Amazon with all their products too , so more people can adopt their products ,
I thought this 16'model is identical to the 24" model (reviewed by other youtuber , very similar with Wacom Mobile studio pro/ mobile pc). .
This is a competitor to the Wacom MobileStudio Pro but that Wacom is so old now from 2019.
And I am back to using my samsung galaxy tab s6 lite
Worth the money pay for the slim Pen if you already have the standard one?
If your pen still works, it's probably not necessary to get another pen
you said 250 to 500 charge to drop to 80% battery life... what about constant charging??
Constant charging will not run up the charge cycles. Battery capacity will still drop with age but not by usage/charging
How does this compare with the Samsung Tab S8 ultra in terms of drawing experience?
Huion has better pen performance when drawing with minimal pressure. E.g. lines are able to taper more smoothly, easier to draw thinner lines with consistency. Anyway, the main difference between the two is whether you need WindowsOS
@@teohyc Thank ypu so much for your reply :) 🙏✨
Would you say this is the best Tablet for Digital Artists that runs Photoshop so far?
Possibly
I bought this feb 15th... already wait for a month and they saying wait another month....This is insane. 2 month for buying...?
Weird. Maybe it is selling well and there is not enough stock
by the way, do you know if slim pen 2 usable with this device?
Does not work. Anyway, the Huion pen is more sensitive than Slim Pen 2.
@@teohontech7141 Despite all artists opinion I really like the shape and size of it. All other pens are just big and heavy. I drop it all the time...
I think your problem you had in 16:28 with the touch controls affecting the wrong monitor are a problem with Windows 11 itself and how it manages the order of each display.
Once you hook up more than one monitor it will automatically embed the touch inputs to the display windows considers as the primary one. And you need to go to Control Panel and look for the Tablet Settings tab. There you can set which display will detect the touch inputs from your device.
I had this same issue on an XP Pen tablet that has Touch screen functions as well. Hope this helps!
Yes, I've managed to fixed that via Windows settings.
Is it possible to connect to a PC, and how to do it?
This cannot be used as a cabled/wired external display to another computer
Can't be sold at this price with ipad pro
If you just want to draw, iPad Pro is great. But if you want to do more, Windows is just way more versatile.
@@teohontech7141
I am also a windows fan, but there are not enough powerful operating systems in these tools yet. It uses a 2 year old cpu and gpu, maybe it would be preferable if it was a more up-to-date system.
Way too expensive for what you're getting. It's a shame...There's other windows tablets out now with better specs for the same price. The Galaxy book 3 pro 360 has better screen, processor , and has wacom pen tech and cost the same.
I've not tested the S Pen from that Book3 Pro 360 so I can't say much. But if that S Pen performs the same as the S Pen from their tablets, then the performance may not be good enough for some artists.
@@teohontech7141 Brad colbow did a review of it, and it seems to be at least as good as the apple pencil. So even if the pen is a tiny bit better, you're getting better specs on the galaxy with everything else. Better processor ,3k 16: 10 oled screen, bigger battery , more ports. I feel like huion is over charging for this because they think they can...there's also the Surface laptop studio. Cost around this price for the i7 version and has a dedicated gpu. If you need power you would get these. If you just want to draw get a ipad. Who is this product for, for this price?
@@HissatsuNeko The selling point here is the pen performance AND Windows OS. If the Samsung S Pen can match the performance of the Huion pen, then it's almost impossible for the Huion to compete.
The S Pen performance can be considered on par with Apple Pencil. But they are not as good as the Huion or Wacom pens. Some artists need that extra level of accuracy. If you don't know whether you need that extra level of accuracy, you don't. And if you don't, it's great because you can save so much more money with other options you have mentioned.
If you want to just want to draw, iPad and Samsung Android tablets are good. But if you want to do more? Window OS is needed. There's no page layout programs on iPad, all the tablet versions of desktop apps have limited features, no proper external display support, limited multi-tasking features, limitations with file management, and I can go on and on.
@@HissatsuNeko Wacom Pro Pen 2 is marginally better than Huion PW517.
Both the Wacom Pro Pen and the Huion PW517 outperform the Samsung S-Pen.
And the Samsung S-Pen is superior to the Apple Pencil 2.
That is my experience, and I have all of them.
The PW550 may be comparable to or better than the Wacom Pro Pen 2, so the price is reasonable by industry standards.
@@teohontech7141 You're right! But that's the point i'm making. The huion pen isn't so drastically better to pay $500 more than other similar windows pen tablets that have the same or even better specs. The s pen is atleast as good as the apple pencil. If i need performance and windows os i would buy the product that has the better specs. So who is this product for at this price? Would Someone who could afford this amount pay $500 more for a marginally better pen but worse everything else? No, they would get the highest end windows tablet. But if you can't afford this , you wouldn't buy it anyway. Huion failed on the pricing.
£2200 lmao what a joke, rip off crap product at that price
any info from ppl with eye strain? ipad and surface studio are killing me...
What specifically is causing the eye strain? Because this uses LCD display just like the iPad and Surface Studio.
@@teohontech7141 I wish I knew... The "white" on both is just hitting my eyes. Something is wrong with the lighting. Tried everything to adjust it. Amoled phone also was killing me. I bought IPS LCD TFT smartphone and it's great. Lenovo legion pc and all others before it was fine. Any simple tv or monitor also ok. Something has changed in this years in screen technologies and I just spending bunch of money trying to find a drawing touch tablet.
@@breeze9248 One thing about phones is the screen is small so even when bright, they will not look as glaring as tablets or monitors when bright which can get really bright.
Why do they put in Intel on them? AMD has better performance battery life and integrated graphics.
1.7kg just the tablet alone. nice...
use blender grease pencil!!!!!!
Wait for second gen. Problems reported by others
What problems?
There are numerous negative comments about this tablet in the comment section.
Would you, for example, pay $4000 USD for a forklift?
If you can't afford it or don't see why you should, it's not for you and you don't need it. I just wanted to point out that, by industry standards, this price is quite reasonable. You want durable tools at a reasonable price. These tools are not toys; they are for people who make money. You should approach these tools with an industrial mindset rather than a consumerist one.
If you're curious, you can look up how much a forklift costs.
Yeah but i wouldn't pay double for it. There's just better " price to performance" options. This only makes sense if you were willing buy a mobile studio pro , which has old parts too, and wanted to save some cash
@@nocturnalbluerose You're underestimating Intel's 11th core i7 1165G7's performance.
2D drawing programs are still primarily reliant on a single core, and this mobile core i7 can turbo to 4.7 Ghz, which is the same as the i7-9700 desktop.
Yes, it is a little old, but it is not out of date. You don't need the latest specs to work. To make money, you don't need all the bells and whistles. It's not for the average costumer, but rather a tool for industry. As you said, "you" won't pay for it, you are not the target of this product. Nobody is forcing "you" to buy this.
Mobile Studio Pro is out of date and still prohibitively expensive. If you can get a "Mobile Studio Pro 16" with an 8th generation core i7 for less than $1500 USD with no warranty, good for you! It also has one of the highest failure rates among Wacom products. So, good luck!
@@nocturnalbluerose For those who can't see the value of this over the iPad Pro probably don't need that extra level of accuracy with the pen and can save the money. This product is more for those who want the Surface Pro because they need Windows OS but cannot accept the line quality from the Microsoft Slim Pen 2.
@@teohontech7141 I'm not seeing anyone say that...I'm only seeing people say this huion thing cost too much.
@@nocturnalbluerose It's because the majority of them have already purchased the tablet and are not complaining on the internet.
If you can't see something and believe it doesn't exist, you lack object permanence.
No VESA holes is a killer.
I HATE HUGE BEZELS
These bezels though