NEW DS 4 E-Tense Review: It does 230MPG!?
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- The new DS 4 is not only stylish, but in plug-in hybrid guise, it has astonishing fuel economy, delivering up to 232mpg! Rory checks out the interior, electric abilities and more.
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I'm a big fan of this new DS 4. They truly nailed the premium look.
I love the design of DS cars. They all look quite unique and stand out when compared with other cars.
As someone who isnt into frech cars its honestly hard to distinguish between a Citroen or Renault
@@ChrisBa303 Your comment is pretty pointless. It's like having a color blind saying that is hard to distinguish between green and red, Well, for the rest of us is pretty easy.
I like the design but it would really frustrate me when cleaning the car as there so much fussy detail.
@@lazzaboyman8003 french cars tend to choose form over function, I should now, I have one 🥲
@@rockraphlegal I used to have a French car which I loved, mainly because it was a Williams Clio not quite so stylish as most French cars but it was a fantastic drive.
I ride this beauty about 10 months now. Since several major software updates, voice commands and the DS Smart Touch are working way better (especially the writing feature)! Also the infotainment system works more responsive, faster and less laggy. Chapeau DS Automobiles! Very happy with this car! I have the DS4 Performance Line+ PureTech 130 Automatic in Platinum Grey. Comfort & design are the trumph cards of DS! In the future I'll keep driving DS. My dad always drove Citroën cars and still doing that today. I prefer comfort over sport. I don't have the DS Active Scan Suspension, but it still offers an amazing comfortable ride. The seats are also amazingly comfortable as well.
But its zero to the germans imo
@@theweeknd2725 The germans are overpriced and too ubiquitous. This car is at least very close to the germans in the most importnat things you want from a car, and just beats the f out of them in terms of design and uniqueness.
@@theweeknd2725 lol this Car is build in Germany. The Interior has much better Quality than this overhypt plastic Mercedes
@@theweeknd2725 most who driving Germans switching towards french cars...... they do stuff very differently when it comes to options and ride quality..... what you get in German cars that are not standard, you get in this DS4 as standard for sure while paying less ;)
Better than its German counterparts. Look at that car... a thing of absolute beauty.
Been driving BMW for 27 years and my wife wasn't keen when I told her about DS.... but she went with me to try it... and in less than 5 minutes she told me : "that's one we need... it's so beautiful". Ordered the Performance Line, Pearl White, Black roof.
I am telling you : that DS4 is fabulous and even superior to any product that class from BWM, Audi and Mercedes Benz.
Greetings from Germany.
Absolutely not. BMW 2 series handles better than DS cars. Handling isn't even comparable. I've rented both cars. I drive 2003 XC90. I needed car for vacation
BMW 218i was so much better. Any German car handles better. This isn't bad, just not that level.
If you come from 1990 BMW and say DS4 better than 90' bmw, lol. rent BMW, test it. Feel it.
Opel Grandland & Crossland has way better downforce too.
You're justifying your choice with bs logic.
@@supernotnaturalreading this means you talk about sport type like cars. DS is all about delivering comfort instead of sport-driving experience........ Not everyone is keen on sporty driving.......
@@betrenthmouze6336 Nope, DS4 is in a class with those cars. Not every BMW car is meant to be for sport lol. You compare apples to apples.
DS 4 came as "France's answer to BMW's 1 series". It has the basically same price tag. So you are saying, DS 4 shouldn't be compared meanwhile it's existence was just to compete Germans?
What an absolutely dumb logic.
If you think DS series do offer more comfort and BMW does give that away, you're in delusion.
Reviews do tell how its poor handling or hars roads. It looks premium, but material isnot up to its pars.
A series of Merc, BMW 1 series, Audi A3. vs this. same segment.
@@supernotnatural oh have a day off
My brain still automatically adds "Citroen" in front of DS
Which it is
Doesn't matter the cars are great these days. I think yiur stuck in the 90s
Citroën is a legendary high quality brand
@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 not really, it's a Stallantis car
@@lorettaartist7244 They're just the parent company
DS is so underrated, some of their cars are fun, stylish, luxurious and functional - they may not all tick all four of those boxes but they're all darn special
The 2012 Citroen DS3 was my first car, someday I want to buy another DS, one of the funnest, best looking cars I've ever driven.
First of all, I just want to say the presenter is spot on and have come across him on a number of reviews before and he gives a straightforward view of what he is testing, unlike the majority of other people doing this who are just lemmings, saying the same stuff with the same terminology as each other,
So after the review, I have decided to book a test drive based on Rory's clear and concise accout.
Thanks
It's a DS! Noice, I love DS design language.
Who designs a system to turn the navigation off to then press 200 buttons looking away from the road for 10 minutes to put the heating up 1 degree!!. Automotive progress my a*se.
Physical knobs and button for heating everytime for me.
Unless we go voice control of course.
@Andrew yep me too, but if they font want to.put physical.buttons in the cars ( to save money ) I'd rather not have to scroll through menus on a touch screen whilst driving just to turn the heating up or put blower on to clear the windscreen so voice would be better than touch screen at least ...
I do get the voice control is intrusive and annoying though, I hate Alexa lol.
Roy’s got to be one of the best car reviewers in resent times, says it as it is 👏👏
Defo, he doesn’t waffle and adds random bits of humour here and there that crack me up sometimes 👍
Recent you plum, and who's Roy?
Love your play on resent / recent I too resent him for getting to drive all these cars , still haven’t forgiven him for turning Top Gear into Blue Peter .
@@alanthomson1227 That's a typo my guy
He is really good!
Getting my ds4 hopefully in 4 Months. Im pretty excited
I had different personal experience to own French, Italian, Japanese, German & US cars, I loved so much the French cars I possessed, I prefer personally French cars than other manufactures. they're underestimated in general. French cars are pretty, reliable, comfy & cheap cars if well-maintained.
Loved my ds! This car is awesome looking and loaded with tech as well, really like this 👌
Took a look around the Edinburgh DS 'salon' last weekend. The DS4 looks amazing on screen but is something else close up - as an 80s kid it was like sitting in a Delorean AND being in the future. I like the old DS models, they were futuristic too, but this a step up again.
I looked for this video for a week, I seen the thumbnail and was gonna watch it next.
It was only then that I learned(after RUclips refreshed) that I wasn't subscribed to your channel.
I am subscribed now!
I love your channel and videos and was very surprised to see you in the fully charged channel.
Great info on there as well, please keep up the great intertainmen, love your videos!!!
Currently got an older DS4 but it still has a a lot of toys and features despite the age
I have a lot of love for the DS brand and its designs - they’re definitely enthusiast cars for people who like their car to stand out. Not sure how great that is for overall sales, but it is very, very cool.
DS has a history for innovation qnd courageous development of suspension, mechanics, design, and economics of modern vehicles.
I had one of the first DS3 cars. Loved it. Looked great. May be tempted for this ds4. I have a jag xf diesel and its appalling. Not as entertaining and good looking as a DS
Good review Rory and one to consider when I change cars. As many have said elsewhere, the DS brand do seem to create some very interesting designs.
Great video mate 👌
Really beautiful car
Love your reviews.
You are so right to have a rant about the tech, Rory. Car control ergonomics are going back to the 1960s when you had to play hunt the thimble to find any controls (good job that there weren't many then - indicators, lights and heater if you were lucky!). The safety implications of being distracted while trying to perform simple tasks is something that the industry and regulatory authorities need to get a grip on.
Apart from that - this looks like a desirable DS at last - I'll bet the Stellantis team who finished off the Tonale wished they had done this instead!
Lol true. Way better looking than the Tonale imho, but I like both.
a NEW Peugeot 206 has just arrived with new clothes.
@@amir1836 fail.... it's built on EMP2 platform not on CMP of 208
@@mirkozlikovski9553
The whole PSA group has have only 3 platforms since 1990s. This thing is based on the PF1 platform which as I said it's same with Peugeot 206 and Citroen Saxo from late 1990s.
(The CMP platform is basically PF1 platform with slight differences specially for hybrid and EV cars)
@@amir1836 FAIL, again... and it looks like you also "stayed in 1990s", because PSA now have only two platforms:
EMP2 (presented in Jan. 2013) that replaced C segment PF2 and D segment PF3 platforms (first production vehicle on it was C4 Picasso II),
and
CMP platform, that replaced PF1 platform for A an B segment cars which - due to the GM and Chinese partnerships turnovers and construction changes - took a bit longer (in 2018 instead of 2014) to be presented . and got a new name in the process... CMP instead of EMP1 (first production vehicle on it was DS 3 Crossback)!
in the near future PSA, now Stellantis, will have (additional?) 4 platforms known under the name "Stella".... STLAsmall, STLAmedium, STLAlarge and STLAframe, for pure electric vehicles.
and these are simple facts that you can -(even if PSA cars doesn't interest you to the point of knowing them from the data of their vehicles) simply google before you post dumb conclusions based on outdated and misinterpreted data... ;)
Awesome review sir
Great design.
Mine is arriving in about 2 weeks and I feel like an 8 years old couple days before Christmas.
It just felt so much nicer than the Germans.
This video is so informative. Thank you so much. I really love DS as a brand, so innovative and stylish whilst remaining practical and efficient.
you killed me , ''led light are like ostrich legs''🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Badly drawn ostrich legs no less
They do let it down like
@@bighes100 but after all its a good car
Good review! Unfortunately, I also have bad experiences with Citroens infotainment system. Such a shame auto makers aren’t able to sort out a good user interface that strikes the right balance between screen and knobs
Are you wearing both a regular/classic and a smart watch?
Yikes... he really is!🤢
BA baracus look.
Great review💯😁👌🏿
Great review. Love the looks, but even on top specs you don't get basics you would expect for the price like heated front seats and blind spot monitoring. Self charging hybrid option would also be a nice addition from Stellantis. They're missing a big market who can't go PHEV.³
But it would add more *weight*!
Oh please tell us how much more you have to pay for such "basics" on its german rivals, please.... A fully specced DS4 costs considerably less money, plus it gets nightvision too, that none of them have....
Seriously cool look & design!
Overall an okay review with beautiful images. You just haven't studied the infotainment system enough. The whole system can be customized to your liking, just like widgets on a Smartphone. This way you can perfectly have a screen completely about climate control and you do not have to switch between different shortcuts. Even the on-board computer and head-up display are adjustable. In this way it comes across that you are not satisfied with the system, but it is also not set up to your liking. By the way, they were 20 inch rims!
But it it's still not better than physical buttons
Great review.
Beautiful car 😍😍😍😍
It would do infinite MPG if it were charged every night and the engine never used. The manufacturers of hybrids can make up any number they want! 😄
yep
It's not the manufacturer making the numbers up its the test the car goes through... I think the average speed during the test is 9mph and it also gets 60 seconds to accelerate to 30mph. It's a very silly test.
@@chrishart8548 Or on other words, they're just making it up, as I originally said!
@@phuketexplorer all the cars have to go through the same test. And the manufacturer doesn't set the rules. It also measures C02 thats why some manufacturers were able to cheat such as VW. This car is designed to pass a test. It can run battery only for a large part of the test. Hence the high mpg and low C02. There not made up! Manipulated is closer to the truth.
It's high enough.
I hope one day I would be watching you review togg c-suv.
One word: Gorgeous!
Rory, I think you are late in reviewing this car. But it's better late than never. I love this car. Nice review by the way
That touch pad in the lower middle would be great for right handed people in countries that drive on the right hand side of the road. For people in the UK, if you're not left handed it's going to be an added hassle.
But I agree about having easy to access buttons or switches for often used things and the heating/fan speed is one of those things.
I think that it would've been better if the small screen could be personalized, for example a keyboard, shortcuts for climate, etc
Lol why Rory so excited by the intruction manuel book case? They have them with every car 😂😂
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. The Best Luxury Family Hatchback 👪
Well worth a look but is the Petrol version better value
Excellent!
Very lovely car 🥰
Lovely video
This is really nice.
Car reviews don't get any better
I want this car. Hope they coke too Australia soon
It's just perfect
Very nice inside and out
I am always sad to see cup holders in the backseat armrest, that can't be covered up.
beautiful car
Shopping on the same group PSA I'd rather have a new Peugeot 308, I think it has most of the strong points of the DS and none of the weak ones.
Oh right
I still have my old ds3 and I love the look and the quirks of the ds ranges. Criterion have always done something different does it always work no but are they boring not at all.
Nice video but you didn’t show us the party trick keyless entry you mentioned in the beginning
That was kind of it. It opens when you approach, and closes when you walk away. You never need the key.
AutoTrader no worries thought it may have been a little mistake great videos as always
Absolutely brilliant review. And what a great car! On looks alone, rivals shown at 2.20 pale in comparison. The DS4 Performance Line version is a babe magnet.
It was all looking good until we got to the infotainment system and controls. The manufacturers are repeatedly putting strange controls that are bad to use. Why is the AC hidden in the screen awkwardly when there’s buttons already? Why are there 2 different controls for each air vent!?!
For those who just want to know the battery size of the PHEV version - 12.4 kWh
I love the looks of this car and what's it's all about: comfort, style, efficiency. I don't mind the relative lack of performance, no longer a priority for me these days. Kind of done with sportish hard sprung cars.
Nice watch, mate. You're a man of style. I've got a YM myself.
Reviewing a 40m GBP car with a 20m GBP watch on your wrist...mmmm
@@jvommen What's wrong with that? Bothers you?
@@Nexus.Achiles where did you get that negative vibe from? Are you able to read my mind??? It was just a funny statement. Your reaction says more about you than about me honestly.
@@jvommen not answering my questions, womder why...
Looks a lot more posh and stylish than the Germans
This looks favourite to replace my Cupra formentor phev next year....it looks amazing.
Am a UX designer. After so much effort with the gorgeous overall design language, how could they screw up with the interior controls? DS, please reach out, I'll be delighted to help on any future revision.
They better reach out!
Good question. I wonder if they used an interface designer at all. The lack of physical controls for frequently used functions such heater adjustments makes we wonder what their design task mapping looked like. Did they do any user interface design testing with humans ??
Excellent review and so precise ! I didn’t know that the battery must be charged every night! This is what I call a good review! Thank you !
This car looks lovely
How do you repair that fromt grill when your neighbours crash into it the second day you get it?!
Could you please test, the Cupra formentor plug in hybrid?? I think that is better fun drive car than DS!
How do you check the mpg I’ve got one can’t check
It is BEAUTIFUL
Beautifully designed interior and exterior. Lexus should send their designers on a 3-day course in the classroom of DS and Polestar.
Sadly, the experience ruined by mindless silly outbreak of screens! Why do manufacturers do this! Keep fan, vent, heating and stereo volume & tune controls manual. Always, always.
ALWAYS!!!!!!! I really can’t stand them, my shed on wheels Is on its last legs and I’ll have to get something with screens everywhere soon. I’m dreading it.
@@andymoss4285 Screens and all those hidden functions are a total disgrace and a dangerous distraction. Plus you can't operate them with gloves on.
I think regulators should step in and force them to keep vital ops like fan, vent, heat, tune, vol, on buttons/rotary switches.
Looks more modern and futuristic with screens that’s why
@Konstantin Ridaya beauty is in the eye of the beholder and besides the LC Lexus makes the most boring looking luxury vehicles on the road😩😀 some of them don’t even look “luxury”
@Konstantin Ridaya The original IS-200 and the LC-500 are certainly very beautiful cars. But all the rest are just vomit-inducing design.
Compare that to the cars from Afla Romeo, for example. Lexus really need to drop that awful grille and they need a new designer for their exterior designs.
I finally surpassed the factory listed 22.2 km pr litre of 95 my Twingo 1.2 75hp 16v was listed with.
B roads, flooring It when going downhill and crawling to the red light.
Its all about driving style.
14:00 "Hybrid must be charged to deliver it's maximum efficiency"
This sounds very questionable to me.
You break - and that energy goes into a battery in a hybrid.
Also, even in hybrid mode the engine supplies a bit of power to the battery and the software decides what's the optimal gear.
So, one minute you may be driving with engine in lower gear that does driving and charging
but when you press your foot down, the car can accelerate without changing the gear.
People say go from gas to EV but I say to hybrid first
Don't most fully electric cars have to cover over 70,000miles just to break even with carbon creation. Hybrid is the only way right now.
Waiting for DS to come to India. Stylish and practical?! 💫❤🤸♂️
Perfect review, thanks Rory nice details, especially now that the EU has set a 2035 deadline for petrol car manufacturers. We need to start understanding more and more of those hybrid/electric cars in our daily lifes
Agreed. I'm pretty excited tbh
@@user-io4sr7vg1v Well they're more likely to stick to it than other manufacturers. They're relatively new and getting rid of existing models won't be as difficult. In fact, it would probably be better for DS from a financial perspective. Newer companies are more successful when they're electric, and they don't need to compete with the German ICE vehicles that dominate the segment.
@@DSAutomobilesUK Wow that is a changing point in Automotives, I hope the company will also bare in mind the customer affordability especially in developing countries and offer low cost hybrid/electric models. As more inflation rises and financial debt crisis are expected to hype, cheaper electric models are a vital tool for company survival
@@user-io4sr7vg1v Says Jay Dee in the week where filling up the average car hit the £100 barrier for the first time ever. IC engines are over. The UK has banned the sale of new cars with IC engines from 2030, 8 short years away from now so there's no point manufacturers spending billions developing a new IC engine that they can only sell for 4 or 5 years. They wont make a return on combustion engines. Electric is here and the focus should be on countries generating more power from renewables.
@@DSAutomobilesUK I know touchscreens and so forth are cheaper but interior buttons are an opportunity for a point of differentiation (Bentley organ stops for example). In the future where cars become more and more homogenized this differentiation is going to become more and more important.
Also any cars which requires a touchscreen to change major controls like HVAC and volume is an instant do not buy for me; it tells me the designers were lazy, the finance team was a bit too involved and it's also far less safer than physical controls that you can feel for without taking your eyes off the road (and no, I don't want to use voice control; if I'm listening to a podcast I have to pause the podcast, pause my train of thought, spend a few seconds talking to the car then hope that it does what I asked. Pushing a button or turning a dial literally takes a second and comes without the added annoyances I just described).
You can still see the navigation on the heads up display... 9:51
11:43 Rory, I'm sure Citroen would like us all to think a 4 inch touch screen costs £2000 but take it from me its probably less than £2
Omg this is beautiful. Americaaaaa. Wtf. We need this
Do the headlights have active shadowing?
Yes
@@dufonrafal cool, finally
You bumper goes with those light if you in an accident
That top of the range model in Ireland is just a shade under €60k...........it's a world gone mad when you consider the size class it is in.
Not sure if anyone else noticed, but there's some significant difference in the shade of the paint on those bumpers compared to the rest of the car. And now that i told you, you can't unsee it.
I love this car
Love it but they need a chrome delete option!
Great review. £40,000 that’s what I paid for my Range Rover. I know it’s not a hybrid but I won’t be changing any time soon. Has Land Rover said what they have planned regarding going electric ?
Range Rover which will break down regularly after 6 months...
🤦♂️
I wouldn’t touch Land Rover with a 10 foot pole literally so unreliable they make BMW look good in terms of reliability lol
Iv just changed my range rover to this. I love it and much more modern and refined.
@@Carfan678 I'm sure they are just fine
Interesting option, never heard of DS before. Thanks for informing us. As tested, the configuration oTR would be£43k
Yes, you have; Citroen.
DS has a brand is new, but they come from Citroën.
The name comes from the 1955 Citroën DS and the first “modern” DS is the Citroën DS3.
Originally it was a premium lineup within Citroën and they where heavily based on Citroën’s (the previous Citroën DS4 was based on the Citroën C4)
But now they have been separated from Citroën and the first “non-Citroën” car they made is the DS 7 Crossback.
It's been around for ages and ages. DS3 anyone ?
@@barrybritcher Well, technically it was a Citroën.
2009 : Citroën DS 3
2014 : DS as a brand
2017 : DS 7 Crossback (the first DS that is not a Citroën)
So 2017, not that long ago.
@@dufonrafal Let's not forget the DS5. I ran the Hybrid4 version for a few years and still like the design.
ALSO DS 4 PRICE RISE of 40 K PLUS put the rivoli ,performance line (cross or non cross ) and another fancy named one, into the £570 per annum ROAD TAX for next , so thats another 2 grand to pay on top of standard 170.00 till end of 5th year. I think now the E in the name is for EXPENSIVE LOL but i do admire the squashed suv styled body.
Form should follow function.
Get a Chevy volt in the summer on only 10 kilowatt they get 50miles on battery only it a fantastic plug in hybrid
Does it not have voice controls ?. Even my old 2012 Lexus CT200h, i just say "Temperature 21c" and it does it. Dont have to touch anything.
It does
You can control the full climate system with Iris.
For 43k, might as well get a Hyundai Ioniq 5
Who has placed those charge cable bags with precision lol.
it is cool !
I have a DS3 crossback. Additionally you can't use Citroën dealers for services so make sure there is a dealer near you. My car been off the road for 4 months since March 2021 not for big issues but issues they can't fix due to supply chain issues etc. When it's running right lovely cars to drive but those little things in tech are a pain and slowly eat away at you.... Nice car, nice looks but I'll thought out design
The supply issues plague all manufacturers. Even Mercedes has issues providing repairs due to supply chain problems. It is not bad design of DS.
Who the hell needs a heated steering wheel?
You.
Always liked french car design but some of the design and control elements are so convoluted. Like they got halfway to refining it and then went ‘that’ll do’
Vert nice looking cars. the unedcated car snobs will be out in force again. He also wrong about the infotainment you dont lose your sat nav and you can transfers it to your dash screen. One of the shortcut buttons is for heating and fans so you just select that and it has all controls on screen. Reselecting satnav does not lose anything.
When all electric?