2016 Nissan Rogue CVT transfer case rear differential and engine oil change. Transfer case was dirty
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- 2016 Nissan Rogue full fluid change to all rotating sub systems. CVT oil change, not full drain and flush, transfer case (WHICH I CALL FRONT DIFFERENTIAL THROUGHOUT THE VIDEO) duh, rear differential and engine oil. There was some debris on the rear differential magnet, but the oil looked good.
Plus a bonus peak at the end of the video showcasing the next whats next garage project!!!
From 2016 Nissan Rogue service manual:
Differential gear oil 0.55 Liter, 1-1/8 pt US, 1 pt IMP. Transfer oil 0.31 Liter, 5/8 pt US, 1/2 qt IMP. Genuine NISSAN Differential Oil Hypoid
Super GL-5 80W-90 or equivalent conventional (non-synthetic oil).
Stay gold.
Best video I've ever seen on fluid change. Very well done.
Hey thanks a lot!
Dude, hell yeah! I use a food storage container for measuring what comes out of drivetrain components. I love how a trained technician cannot do that and complain about it being "too hard". DIY FTW
Great video!
fyi, There is a bolt next to the CVT pan that is facing you on about a 45 degree angle. That is the bolt you remove to set the level on the transmission while the engine is running and in neutral. Your way is much easier though, but for those that don't have a pan to measure the liquid. Thats what's used to set the level.
Thank you so much for that tip!! And the comment about the video👍
Excellent video, very thorough! I'm changing my CVT oil today in my 2019 Nissan Rogue today, and am going to do my transfer case and differential soon. I'm more of a small engine mechanic than car, so your video is much appreciated!
i dont know about a complete flush, but at least i would change the cvt paper filter thats right behind the oil cooler cover on the side of the gearbox. taking the oil pan out, cleaning the oil sucker filter (or changing it) and cleaning the metallic debris on the big magnets at the bottom of the pan would also be a good idea. usually there is a lot of material there on these nissan cvt. the rest of the job was perfect and really clean and neat!
Thank you for the additional information! I really appreciate it! Have a great Holiday season!
Thanks for the video. Just FYI, if you don’t already know. One thing I’ve found out recently is, there is a (outside) CVT fluid filter, that you should change very 50k miles or so (base on my research). If you look from passenger side, towards the driver side, there is a cylindrical housing (4 bolts) just above the CVT fluid pan, towards the front of the car. I have it on my 2020 Rogue, I’d assume all the Rogue if this generation has one.
Holy cow!! Thank you for the information. I will check the next time the rouge comes in! Have a great week and thanks again!!
Does the fluid need to be drained first before replacing that one? How often should the pan be dropped and internal filter changed.I just drained and filled mu rogue sport at 48,000
I heard of that one too. I know mine has it but for certain ones I have heard of the parts department not being able to find it on the diagram. It is one of two things to blame, an incompetent parts specialist or their diagrams are not up to date.
@@jonmo2694 based on my research, at around 50-60k miles, the external filter (not sure if you have to drain the fluid first, my guess is no), internal filter (dropping the pan), and a drain and fill should be performed - drain and fill can be done more often depending on the colour of the fluid.
It’s scary how easy you make this all look
thanks for the kind words!
Nice video discussing these fluid changes. Always start with loosening the fill plug first like you did just in case you run into trouble and can’t get those loose for some reason. That cap on the Nissan CVT fill port is really odd in my opinion, I guess they thought someone would pour an incorrect fluid perhaps. The CVT drain pan have two donut shaped magnets on Nissans that collect sludge and metal particles. Adds to the labor, but might be worthwhile to remove the pan and check/clean those magnets.
That makes sense on the magnets in the pan!! I have seen that before, never thought of that with this vehicle! Thanks for the kind words and the great added information!! Appreciate it!
My Mom's 2017 doesn't have the notch to push the clip from the side. I guess Nissan and Jatco got wise to it. I can see them doing it to keep people from just dumping any old transmission fluid in these. I have read a couple horror stories of a shop using regular ATF in CVTs and it will damage them. I don't know how soon the damage shows up but I don't want to find out. When it comes to CVTs some people cringe and say it will not last long. Well, that is especially true if ATF is in there. Hopefully you are not far from home if a CVT fails because of that because it will make the entire trip an ordeal with getting it to a shop, paying for a new CVT (assuming it was not warrantied and incorrect fluid is NOT). It is both horribly inconvenient and expensive.
@@charleshines1553 That cap on the older Nissan’s tranny dipstick doesn’t make it idiot proof for incorrect fluid. Just an annoyance, glad to hear that’s not there anymore. Yes, putting incorrect fluid in any CVT could be catastrophic.
Great Video.. I have my Nissan Rogue 2016 & I’ve Changed CVT Fluid , Front & Rear Diffenrential Fluid Using Amzoil Brand And I feel Smoother Quitier I don’t have any issue or problems since I’ve Changed my CVT Fluid Front & Rear Deff. Thank You have a great day..
Thanks a lot for the great real-time info about the Amzoil!! Stay safe and have a great New Year!
Thanks for the info, that's all I need to do it myself after the dealership told my wife I need special tools. Hogwash.
Just make sure you measure the amount of fluid you remove. 🎉👍🥳🤩
I have a pump like that but the darn tube falls off. A hose clamp fixes that problem nicely. I think what happens is when any oil gets under that it no longer stays without a clamp. I can imagine that getting annoying for someone with a pickup truck having to pump a couple liters in!!
Very good video and very helpful thank you
Thank you so much for a super helpful video!
@@VadimNYC you’re welcome! And thanks for the kind words! Have a great rest of your week!
Thanks for sharing your experience
You’re welcome!! Have a great upcoming weekend!
Great vid, going to change my cvt fluid first, thinking of using amsoil , I have 90000 miles on my rogue had cvt changed at 60k but never had diffs changed , doesn’t look to hard
No the rear diff is quite easy. The plugs are pretty tight though. Just get yourself the pump, I was going to take one of my wife’s shampoo pumps but picked up one online. Good luck and if you have questions, I’m usually pretty quick to respond.
Hi Mary, I have a 2017 Nissan Rogue and I changed the rear differential, transfer case and transmission fluid all to full synthetic from Amsoil, and it's been nothing but good all the way. 👍🇨🇦
@@404notfound..... thanks for the input
Although my car doesn't have a CVT it is a Volkswagen and the transmission fluid from them is just as insanely priced. It can be $25 or more for a liter of fluid depending on your vehicle. Then if you get the same spec fluid from a Porsche dealer (only difference is Porsche branding) it can be a lot more expensive still! There are often other brands that are what the fluid is. Pentosin is the supplier of Volkswagen's fluids from what I hear. I also heard Idemitsu makes the fluid Nissan uses.
It’s just crazy what they charge for the fluids. Then if you don’t use their fluids it’s always in the back of your mind that something may go wrong. When I was researching the different brands I could use there just wasn’t any good information that was yea or nay for sure.
@@whatsnextgarage Is the fluid level right if the front one is done on ramps? I have the lower plastic ramps. I bough them because the metal ones we have for trucks don't go under far enough and they hit under the car. You can imagine that if you somehow got a car on those, you might damage the body some. I am not one of those people who has a car with the bumper cover sagging down giving the car a strange look. You may have seen what I am referring to with old Buicks from around 1995 but it can happen to any car really. My car is a Volkswagen and I don't notice them with that.
Just get AMSOIL ,no other brand beats the specs ,, NO I am not a dealer
I always used to see videos where the CVT fluid had to be filled with the engine running and your watching the fluids stream out of a fill hole, and you needed a machine that can read transmission temperature to be at certain temperature. i'm surprised you did it all willy nilly.
lol Willy nilly 😀. I just replaced what I took out and because the system didn’t have any leaks I was good to go. If I had dropped the pan then for sure I would have ran the system up to temp, hooked up my scanner and read the trans temp, and added the proper amount to top it off. There is more than one way to get the same result. Have a great weekend!!
@whatsnextgarage copy. I'm glad there's more than one way to do it. Everybody else made it seem so complicated. I will try it in the future for sure!
In Chile it costs 5 times more each quart, so you are lucky to buy it at that price (cvt ns-3)
excellent video by the way
😳that’s crazy!! I do t think I’d change it as often! Thanks for the kind words. Have a great remainder of the week.
do you need ns-3? i have a 2010 koleos (in argentina) with qr25 engine and jf011E CVT and manual says ns-2. It quite expensive anyway. I got a good price on "mannol 8216" oil, made in germany, and ns2 compliant.
@@facundonu I have a 2017 Nissan x--trail with a QR25DE engine, I don't know what transmission model it has, but it is CVT with manual mode. And in the user manual it indicates that Nissan CVT NS-3 should be used.
Currently in Chile the cost of each quart is US$119.
I have seen many cheaper alternatives in Mercado Libre (Honda, Wolver, Mannol, Castrol, etc)... but I don't know what is the detail of the viscosities of NS-3 to replace it with another brand. Fortunately I have at least 1 year left for maintenance.
By the way...congratulations Argentina on qualifying for the quarterfinals
@@pangarden thanks! Yes, 2017 needs ns3, or at least manual says so. My Renault is older, probably previous generation gearbox.
I went out and spent some money to find out I don’t have a transfer case in my 2016 front wheel drive only. I see a two bolts that look like it would take oil but I can’t verify it anywhere. 😅
In my experience, nissan underfills the rear diff fluid. Anytime I do a rogue which never had a rear diff flush, 2.5x more fluid goes into that fluid that comes out.
WOW! That’s crazy!
I changed my 2017 Rogue rear differential at 42,000 and it was black and foul smelling. I can imagine how horrible the front one will be when I do it. I have heard people say the smell would make them vomit. I can see what they mean but it doesn't bother me so much. I think they were just exaggerating to get the point of the strong smell across.
That's not actually the front transfer case that's the all wheel drive transfer case. So you have the engine oil case, the CVT case for the transmission, the transfer case for the awd drive and the rear differential case.
Awesome, thank you
Amsoil has the best specs and much better than Nissan Branded Fluid or any other brand ..
I know use metric only. 10 MM and 3/8 seem the same but they are just close.
Lol they can be very close especially when the fastener is corroded a bit.
Great vid. This guy has to be from WI.
🤔🤣🥳yup
Volkswagen transmission fluid is also really expensive at around $25 per liter. Then the same spec fluid from a Porsche (In a Porsche branded bottle) dealer will really cost you! How is that for a fluid that is really WS spec? I forgot how much it is from Porsche when I looked out of curiosity but it is considerably more expensive than $25. I think they only do it because they know that a sucker is born every minute. I wonder how many of them just go to the VW dealer and get the equivalent fluid instead. Then if you get a change done at a VW dealer it gets even worse with labor added.
I'm going to get them done with my next oil change will cost me bout 500 with oil change
The service is well worth it because it can save the drive systems and potentially higher cost repairs later on.
Hi, thank you so much for the detailed video.
My understanding is that these cars have transaxles, so the front differential is actually integrated into the whole assembly.
Does that mean I also need to change the front differential oil? or do I just need to change the CVT fluid?
I have a 2016 Nissan Rogue (FWD / QR25DE).
I am not sure if the FWD rogue has a separate differential or if they are all combined. Easiest thing to do is look underneath and if there is a differential on the passengers side then I’d change that oil along with the CVT oil. Sorry I couldn’t be more help!
@@whatsnextgarage That’s a great suggestion, thank you so much for your help!!
Gl4 and gl5 oils are not interchangeable because gl5 will destroy any gearbox with brass or bronze components...I think you should read the small print on the bottle..unfortunatly many people don't take the time to research this and end up destroying there gearbox..
Night storm, thanks so much for this comment!! I truly mean it!! You forced me to do research and find out the differences.
I am 100% on board with your comment.
First I have to say that Nissan recommends GL5 80w90 for the front and rear differential.
Now to add more substance to your comment, GL4 has about 1/2 of the sulfur/phosphorus additive then GL5. What that additive does is build a wearable (sacrificial) layer between the meshing gear teeth. What you reference with softer material is true when they substitute GL5 for GL4 and the reason is the sacrificial layer is actually harder then the base metal of brass or other soft metal and allows a very tiny amount of that base metal to wear away instead of the sacrificial sulfur/phosphorus layer.
So for DIY’ers doing fluid changes make sure you use OEM recommended lubricants in your vehicles.
This link is where I found everything I paraphrased above.
www.widman.biz/uploads/Transaxle_oil.pdf
Great video brother
I do all my own work also. My problem Before starting is always over thinking making sure I am using the correct fluids.The transfer case and rear? Nissan states 80w90 GL5.non synthetic only.I’m like what’s the difference? We are lead to believe that synthetic is the way to go with everything.They also have it with limited slip additive 🤦🏻♂️.
I totally understand. Sometimes I think them guys just do that to confuse us and make a second guess.
@@whatsnextgarage I would love to try the Amsoil CVT fluid, but I’m afraid that God for bid something goes wrong then they will not honor the warranty. But please do another video when you do the external filter change
Oil filter is in the passenger side wheel well, I know I own a rogue
it threw me for a loop the very first oil change I did on a rogue.
Yeah me too, I've never seen it in that place but there it was
i bought a dip stick for our 2018 rogue for the trans,,,got one for my boys 2019...
I heard there was such a thing out there! Where did you get them?
where did u buy trans stick
@@BillSW ebay i think it was a about 15bucks my boy gat one for his 2019...he hd the trans serviced at nissan they cut it off...i was pissed of ..Nissan 2.5L, CVT Transmission ORIGINAL Dipstick 2007-up ALTIMA ,2015-up ROGUE they are now hard to find but these are the ones that work hope this helps
I would have been really angry that they cut it off!! Thanks for the information!
É pena que só falem nas caixas CVT é informação ás molhadas mas ninguém fala no NISSAN CASHQAI com caixa DCT de 2019 existe vídeo nenhum em toda a net a falar das novas caixas DCT de dupla embraiagem
Eu não trabalhei em um. Agora vou pesquisar para ver como funcionam. obrigado
For the 3/8" bit for front differential bolt, can u just use a socket extension as the 3/8 bit to remove the bolt or must use a real 3/8 socket square bit?
Did you end up buying it? You probably needed the extension anyway?
Do you replace the washers from the drain plugs?
No I didn’t replace the gasket.
did u replace same amount of diff fluid removed ( measure it) to match existing or fill to the max?
Replaced what I removed.
That car is pretty crusty for a 2016. Do they not oil spray undercoat in your neck-of-the-woods?
No if you want undercoating here you have to either do it yourself or find a shop that will do it for you. It’s how they keep the auto industry rolling🙄🤣🤣
Does the front transfer case and rear differential use the same fluid?
Yes it does
Hi there can you share all the information about the oil engine number and cvt oil number and can you all put the air engine filter and cabin filter number? With those information number I can find it quickly on the stores, thank you and it helps a lot bro....
Nice vid. I'm really confused. I own a Rogue (X-trail) 2015 and thé dealer (Nissan) told me that there is no need to change the cvt fluid for m'y model!!! I asked the store where I usually change engine oil and they said the same thing. They tell me if you want we can aspirate the cvt fluid then we refuel it.
That makes no sense. Lubrication technology has come a long way for sure, however there is no magic lubricant that I know of that can continue to work in an extreme environment for ever. I am surprised the dealer would say something like that.
I had a Volkswagen and the fluid for its transmission was just as expensive and then more. It looks like inflated fluid prices are normal at dealers and when looking for a factory fluid. The thing about Volkswagen is they don't really tell you anything about the fluid.
When I see vids of guys with failed CVTs and they are disassembling them the fluid is dark and like used motor oil. I am not sure how long it takes it to get that way but these are NOT lifetime fluids by any stretch of the imagination. Also they need to remember how complex these things are and change the fluid hopefully before anything happens. Waiting until there is an issue is almost waiting until it is too late and it is *doomed to fail*
Use amsoil fluids
Is this car a manual? The back of the gear oil bottle says non synchronized manual transmission. Is there a different option for automatic?
I believe there is
It's been 5qts for years.
Guess I never made a video of me changing oil so I never really paid attention🤷♂️I was really excited to see that it was 5 qts🤣🥳
Great Video, do you recommend another transmission fluid change in the near future? lets say 6 months after, just because you didn't flush out the whole system?
Thanks for the compliment. I did not recommend that to the customer it might not be a bad idea. It’s a very gray area just because there’s not a lot of information out there on doing it the way that I did.
How about SAE 5W-30?
That’s a tough question to answer. There are tons of factors that go into engine oils, namely 0w-20 vs 5w-30. Broadly, the oils viscosity you choose is affected by temperature and driving habits. Cold temps and normal driving conditions, the manufacturers recommended 0w-20 is good but high outside temps and aggressive or “hard” driving habits may warrant the 5w-30. 0w-20 provides a slightly thinner oil film of protection which “experts” say can produce better fuel economy. However many argue that it is so negligible that it shouldn’t be compared that way. Older high mileage vehicles may benefit from the 5w-30 due to its ability at temperature to have a thicker oil film on moving components. Always use the manufacturer recommended oil type called out in the owners manual. That’s the route I always go.
The transfer case and rear main use the same fluid? Thanks
Yes. Only need one quart
Can you put a dip stick into the transmission side anyway?
I am not sure. I would just replace what you take out.
I tried using my oil dipstick on the transmission diphole and got no reading
if i were to replace the washers from the rear differential. what measurement should i get for them?
I own a Nissan Rogue 2008 SL AWD
52733KH is the part# for the gasket. The plug is an m12x1.25 which is approximately .480 thou so .500 or 1/2” id for a copper crush washer would be fine.
@@whatsnextgarage thank you
is the same part # for the cvt drain plug washer?
I found it online part #11026-JA00A
but the differential drain washers are silver and the one that nissan sells is copper. does this affect in any way?
@@elangelmon the Dorman number is 097-134. I believe they are all 12mm. Which is the .44 id size.
The silver one is a crush washer also like the copper. But I prefer to use copper whenever I can. And your rogue is a pretty popular rig so use the dorman number and you should be good to go. I typically reuse the washers without issue. But one of these times it’s gonna bite me. Good luck!!
@@whatsnextgarage so u just kept the original washer for everything trans, oil, diffs x2?
@@BillSW yea, just had the vehicle back for some different service and all plugs are still dry and clean. I would have replaced them if they looked destroyed.
Ever heard about rust proofing?
yes I have, not sure what you mean? should the undercarriage be rust proofed?
@ 8.35 I thought 4 quarts came out how did 1.1 pints go in? What kind of pump is that also?
4 quarts was the cvt amount. The front and rear differential takes 1 quart between the both of them with the rear diff taking 1.1 pints. Make sure to fill until it comes out the overflow. They sell that pump at any auto parts store or you can steal the pump from a one gallon shampoo dispenser.
@@whatsnextgarage oh ok good to know. Thanks
@@NeutronX101 if you do the cvt drain and refill only, just make sure to measure what comes out so you can refill with that amount. Have a great upcoming weekend!
Will changing the fluids of all these void my power train warranty?
That’s a tough question to answer without knowing the details of said warranty. If the OEM recommended fluids topped to the OEM specified levels is adhered to, you would have a good argument if they didn’t honor it in the future.
@@whatsnextgarage thanks for the fast reply
@@Boston3737 you’re welcome! Have a great weekend!
This would of cost $2000k at dealership.
That’s one of the reasons why I taught myself how to work on cars. Stealerships really think we’re stupid people.
Hey what next garage,does all Nissan rogue have differential if it fwd only thks
@@abe5316 I don't think so. Only AWD
I really don’t know. I would say no because it would all be built into the transmission at that point. Great question now I need to find out.
What's the cost of each of these oil changes?
$80 for the trans fluid, $40 for engine oil and filter and $14 for differential oil. So total was $134.
could you tell me what's 3/8 square? have a picture?
It the same end that you use on your 3/8 ratchet.
www.smithtoolsupply.com/Air-Tools/Impact-Sockets/Pipe-Plug/3/8in-Drive-x-3/8in-Square-Male-Pipe-Plug-Socket.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3bq0_a2Y9wIVwxatBh1UMgmhEAQYCCABEgIYEPD_BwE
The end of this fits into the plug.
Hi,where to get you transmission oil bucket?that is Awesome
yanghui, here is a link to walmart for the bucket. It is made by Libman. www.walmart.com/ip/Libman-High-Power-3-5-gal-Plastic-Utility-Bucket-Dual-Pour-Spouts-Black-1272/374074075?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=2658&adid=22222222277374074075_117755028669_12420145346&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=501107745824&wl4=pla-293946777986&wl5=9018720&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=374074075&wl13=2658&veh=sem_LIA&gclid=CjwKCAiA7dKMBhBCEiwAO_crFIxlLbAoB6-uiBZHKNQR95nbhy7maeXj3gU6bNusL8YC_zN3NNvXYRoCZP4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Libman High Power 3.5 gal Plastic Utility Bucket, Dual Pour Spouts, Black, 1272
i got mine from menards. but just copy and past the description above and you will find them. i have two, one for coolant and one for oil.
@@whatsnextgarage 🙏 Appreciate
So if you rarely use your AWD then you shouldn't have to change your differential fluid. Also is that the same thing as "drive line fluid maintenance"? The dealer said I need that.
The Rogue is AWD so it is always rotating in both differentials. Because there is less fluid in the front differential that’s why it gets dirtier quicker. As far as the “drive line fluid maintenance” I will say yes, what I did in this video is drive line fluid. Transmission and differentials.
@@whatsnextgarage Wrong, I have to push a button to go into AWD. I never push that button unless I am stuck in the snow or mud.
@@crand20033 WOW!! I never knew they had the option!! Thanks for the correction! However I believe the front differential still rotates it’s just not locked in to engage the front wheels. Looks like I need to do some more research.
@@whatsnextgarage Also, when you put it into AWD you can't go any more than 25 miles per hour or the AWD will automatically disengage.
@@crand20033 ok now I understand. Somewhat. The AWD lock is a low speed regulator button that locks all 4 wheels in for better low speed traction. However when speeds reach 20 mph the AWD lock turns off. At which point most of the power goes to the front wheels until the intelligent system senses slippage then it diverts power to the rear wheels as well, for example a 70-30 or 60-40 split between front and rear.
When you drain the CVT fluid, does the temperature matter ? Can you drain it as cold and put it in there as cold ?
@jlin if your draining at the plug warmer is better, much like an engine oil change. Just remember to measure the amount of oil you remove, that way you can get it back close to oem fill level. Hope that answers your question! Have a great weekend.
Agree with draining warm helps it flow faster, but tranny fluid volume is temp dependent.
Since Nissan makes it difficult and not give you a dipstick to confirm level on refilling I would recommend you drain it warm, allow to cool to room temp, confirm volume drained, and refill with room temp fluid.
PS thanks for the tutorial on removing the dipstick plug. I watched multiple versions, and every other one had either their hands or the radiator hose blocking the camera.
Good idea about letting it cool to ambient!!
Is it true the Rogue has two transmission filters?
Not really sure about that. I’m going to dig in a bit and see.
Yes, there is a sump filter you see when you drop the pan, and another filter up above that in it's own housing. There's not much info on the upper filter, not in the service schedule and no torque specs for the housing bolts; I don't think many people change those ones out.
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