I'm so attracted to perfect symmetry, squares, blocks that fit neatly together and balance in everything. But every guide or tutorial or widely available blueprint I've seen makes these ungodly deep long rectangle branches of inconsistent length off a typically unbalanced, non-symmetrical main bus. Then I found you. I've never been so giddy. I think I love you.
"But i find it important to start with the simple stuff and build up from there." I subscribed from this sentence alone. Thank you for not assuming, it makes you a better teacher. This is the Factorio building content I've been searching for. Cheers!
This video is by far one of the most helpful for setting up factories that I've seen. You give simple designs and give the viewer the ability to learn and make their own. Seriously love the content man. 👍
An alternative layout for 2-fluid chem plants : Offset every other row by 1 tile. When you do that, the inputs for one ingredient line up, and the other two ingredients take the other two tiles in between. Takes 1 set of underground pipes per chem plamt.
It's very interesting that you're the smallest factorio youtuber I am subscribed to and yet, between this video and the widgets, they are the most important videos that I have been endlessly searching for. All the other big youtubers just have their designs and not a comprehensive video on how to actually theorize building the layout/blueprint itself. Seriously underrated.
Honestly, this is why I love the 'inserter throughput' mod. It shows me a dynamic amount that an inserter can move. Things that change the number are things like inserter stack size research or if you are moving from belt or from the inventory, which is faster.
Great video! I don't know if I'll be able to fully replicate what you've done, but I found it inspiring. Love the way that you approached your explanation.
This is extremely useful and well explained as my base build is very chaotic. Although I think it is fun just muddling through on my own without using other people's blueprint designs. But at the same time it's great to get new ideas from others and as the game can get so complex it may be the way to go.
Cheers, that is very kind. I sometimes think I was late to the party and by the time I arrived everyone had already formed their little gangs. I'm not done yet though
My favourite gear setup is: ASSEMBLER INSERTERS INPUT-BELT OUTPUT-BELT INPUT-BELT INSERTERS ASSEMBLERS This works well because of the ratio. (The ratio changes slightly with efficiency modules, but it's still > 1 input per output.) This has some benefits: You can tile this sort of thing as much as you want,It's reasonably easy to feed and retrieve, it's easy to get right, and since your long hand assemblers go to the middle belt, and you eat more than you spit out (as opposed to say, wires) it all works out.
Now that we can mirror oil refineries and chemical plants I finally have a starter oil setup I consider sexy. Even has spaces for beacons so it can last quite awhile
he was saying with the sideloading instead of splitters, it is easy to replace and run the other direction if you say, have to connect input to a new mine, or want to send output somewhere else.
One space can be saved in the side output blueprints presented at times like 4:40 by placing the inserters at opposite edges of the assembly machine, and rotating the belt during the middle tile. Arrows represent belts. + Represents Inserters. _ is empty. _^_ +^+ Compare to: ^+ ^< +^
My ONLY gripe is I wish I could see how the mats flow on the belt xD I’m a very visual person so seeing how it’s working helps me a lot! Though, I imagine that would be kind of difficult. Otherwise, this is awesome!
Alright. My thoughts on this. My first question was which setup is he talking about right now? There are 3 on the screen, but nothing visual to indicate which exact one he is talking about. I can kinda follow the context clues to understand, but it’s a bit hard to figure it out at times. The part where you talked about the 3 input fixed that issue, and you used more visual indicators in the rest of the video. Good work on this one. The very neat ways you removed stuff made the video more interesting.
i alwasy use belt waving for my blocks. you can fit double the belts on one lane by using different color undergrounds, this limits throughput somewhat to only one max tier belt per lane but the extra space makes up for that i think ande nothing in the base game/ dlc needs that many I/O exepts labs maybe
bigfoot do you know you can change the settings of helmod to see how many inserters you need and also see what decimal of assemble machines needed cuz rarely do you have it exactly perfect. just click the truck and gear near the top right. in the gear you can see something that says element with how many decimals you want
Was there something specific you had in mind? I use a number of mods, some follow me everywhere, some just get pulled out for a specific situation. It really depends what you are looking to achieve.
@@theotherbigfoot Generally quality of life mods. Helmod is great which you mentioned, I love that one. There's something you had in your inventory at 10:41 in the video, a colourful icon on the far top right next to the gun icon. What is that?
@@SarelvdWalt That is a mod called 'color coding'. It has a whole host of different coloured things. Walls, concrete, lights. One of the best QoL mods that I use is called 'what is it really used for'. It shows all the places where a particular thing will go or come from. Put an iron gear into it and it will show all the ways an iron gear can be made (maybe not useful in vanilla) and the places an iron gear needs to go. Starting a new set of mods with a new set of materials I've never used before, this thing is absolutely priceless.
@@sakesaurus It isn't the first time I've noticed it in one of my timelapse videos. Good to know the correct specific term though, you aren't the first to point this out, now at least I have the correct verbiage to reply with!!
Are there specific sizes you use for your big blocks? I see they’re constantly changing but they still seem like there are a set few that are reused. Sorry if I missed this in the video.
I will try and squeeze a factory into whatever size space I have available to me. They are always slightly different. That's kinda what I'm trying to get across with these kinds of videos, that there are an infinite number of ways to lay down the same factory, different shapes, different sizes, different geometries. It isn't for me to tell anyone how to build or what to build, I just want to give you/the viewer enough information to make your/their own decisions.
@@nickwilson4539 I want this collection of youtube videos I am building to be something I am proud of, something I consider to be conclusive on the topics I choose to cover. If a video is unwatchable then that is a problem I need to sort. This isn't the first time I have redone a video and it won't be the last, there are a couple others that are already on my list. I know when it is right, v2 is right, v1 was wrong.
If by belt weaving you mean running two belts one under the other so that they occupy the same tile width, well, I mean, me personally, I really really hate that. I would rather rip down my entire factory and start again than do that. Some might say I have pretty extreme opinions when it comes to factorio. And they would be right.
@@theotherbigfoot just to make it clear, I mean the right one visible from 5:55 to 6:18 nothing wrong with it but its radius is only 2, steel ones is 3 but to reach the red inserters from behind the chemical plant you would need at least 4 range in your configuration. In your build its possible to make space for power poles to fit in the middle so its just if you try it exactly like that without free space. I like your layout ideas and want to try some so thanks a lot for making this :)
@@ataarono I meant the steel ones, my bad, I forget the wooden ones exist I hate them so much. I see your point though. What I generally do is bury the power pole in the conveyor belt in a place that isn't in the way of an inserter. Not the most elegant of solutions but it at least works. I care more about the positioning of the chem plants and conveyors and pipes etc than I do about the power. No worries dude, thanks for tuning in. More is coming. More is always coming...
I really like the thought process you employ to design your blocks. I just wish you could share some save games so I could study those designs; I find it a bit difficult to follow the process and the designs on video.
my only problem with your designs is that there is no room to beacon. now with 2.0 I can make the compromise of just 1 beacon, but still beacons are important
you know, you said we should also try to come up with our own designs, but i think my designs would make you angry.. have you considered stuff like belt weaving, 2 belts in 1 using 2 different tiers of underground. or, in some designs when i neeed to output on the ending side of the input i will put the input on the inner sdie of a belt, and have the inserters both place and take from the same belt, so the output is on that very same belt, then using the underground trick to only take out of one side of the belt. i like making people shutter with the ideas of putting inputs and outputs on the same belts using weird mechanics. FOR EXAMPLE. using logic to only request the exact amount of input your factories will need. so that you can just put the output on the same belt. and let it run :) HOPING nothing makes its way through and mixes with output.
I love the idea that you are f*cking with the perceived wisdom, doing things that other people aren't doing and finding your own path. But yes, your designs make me angry.
I'm guessing you are using two inserters with a conveyor belt between them, but why limit yourself to just one side? There are a lot of ways to arrange a 4 input 1 output. The reason I didn't cover them is because they aren't critical for vanilla factories.
@@theotherbigfoot i didn't set any recipe yet, but flying robot frames can be used or lds which needs a lot of copper so u could use 2 belt off copper and the beacons were put there to show future upgardeablity or a lab setup
The arrows do not align with the movement of the belt that we perceive. This looks like it may be an aspect of speeding up the video, much like looking at a spinning wheel that looks like it is going backwards at a certain speed. Or the footage was reversed.
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My god, a factorio guide youtuber that can talk in full sentences that explain their full thought process. How can this be?!
Damn shade thrown at Trupen
@@followingtheroe1952 whatever trupen does is not a guide.
And it's not a damn college course on some specialized circuit setup that he doesn't even fully remember. (nilaus)
Lol I think this all the time. Like I love Trupen, or Nilaus, but sheesh they are long winded.
@@Ang3lUkidamn 😂
I'm so attracted to perfect symmetry, squares, blocks that fit neatly together and balance in everything. But every guide or tutorial or widely available blueprint I've seen makes these ungodly deep long rectangle branches of inconsistent length off a typically unbalanced, non-symmetrical main bus. Then I found you. I've never been so giddy. I think I love you.
Welcome to the channel
"But i find it important to start with the simple stuff and build up from there." I subscribed from this sentence alone. Thank you for not assuming, it makes you a better teacher. This is the Factorio building content I've been searching for. Cheers!
Going from someone who just makes what I need to make to progress to a stage where I want things to look good is such an eye opening experience
This video is by far one of the most helpful for setting up factories that I've seen. You give simple designs and give the viewer the ability to learn and make their own. Seriously love the content man. 👍
An alternative layout for 2-fluid chem plants : Offset every other row by 1 tile. When you do that, the inputs for one ingredient line up, and the other two ingredients take the other two tiles in between. Takes 1 set of underground pipes per chem plamt.
Thank you so much. I really enjoy hearing the thought process behind your designs. Really helps me organize my own. Quality content.
It's very interesting that you're the smallest factorio youtuber I am subscribed to and yet, between this video and the widgets, they are the most important videos that I have been endlessly searching for. All the other big youtubers just have their designs and not a comprehensive video on how to actually theorize building the layout/blueprint itself. Seriously underrated.
Just discovered your channel and now watching every of your videos. Your factories have style and character.
Thank you for your contect! :)
My pleasure buddy, I hope you enjoy it all!!
now THIS is factorio content thats needs to be known
Honestly, this is why I love the 'inserter throughput' mod. It shows me a dynamic amount that an inserter can move. Things that change the number are things like inserter stack size research or if you are moving from belt or from the inventory, which is faster.
This is SO next level from factorio guides, thank uou!!
One of the best block design resources I've found.
Great video! I don't know if I'll be able to fully replicate what you've done, but I found it inspiring. Love the way that you approached your explanation.
This video really helped woth my builds and how to solve some production problems. Thanks man!
This is extremely useful and well explained as my base build is very chaotic. Although I think it is fun just muddling through on my own without using other people's blueprint designs. But at the same time it's great to get new ideas from others and as the game can get so complex it may be the way to go.
The most insightful factorio video I have ever seen, learned so much from this
You deserve more recognition for the quality of your content
Cheers, that is very kind. I sometimes think I was late to the party and by the time I arrived everyone had already formed their little gangs.
I'm not done yet though
New DLC might change things up also
My favourite gear setup is:
ASSEMBLER
INSERTERS
INPUT-BELT
OUTPUT-BELT
INPUT-BELT
INSERTERS
ASSEMBLERS
This works well because of the ratio. (The ratio changes slightly with efficiency modules, but it's still > 1 input per output.)
This has some benefits: You can tile this sort of thing as much as you want,It's reasonably easy to feed and retrieve, it's easy to get right, and since your long hand assemblers go to the middle belt, and you eat more than you spit out (as opposed to say, wires) it all works out.
Now that we can mirror oil refineries and chemical plants I finally have a starter oil setup I consider sexy. Even has spaces for beacons so it can last quite awhile
I love these vids that help me figure out ways to scratch that ocd itch
Nice video and all, but it's incredibly distracting that this was recorded with a framerate that made belts appear to run backwards.
Damn the intro was real smooth
Your checklist at the end is great.
I didn't get what you meant about the science blocks though, and the reversible belt directions.
he was saying with the sideloading instead of splitters, it is easy to replace and run the other direction if you say, have to connect input to a new mine, or want to send output somewhere else.
Your builds are sooooo damn good looking. Big fan Bigfoot
One space can be saved in the side output blueprints presented at times like 4:40 by placing the inserters at opposite edges of the assembly machine, and rotating the belt during the middle tile.
Arrows represent belts. + Represents Inserters. _ is empty.
_^_
+^+
Compare to:
^+
^<
+^
Thank you for this. It really helped me refine my builds.
My ONLY gripe is I wish I could see how the mats flow on the belt xD I’m a very visual person so seeing how it’s working helps me a lot! Though, I imagine that would be kind of difficult.
Otherwise, this is awesome!
I know nothing about effectivenes of these patterns... But they are sooo sexxy.
Thank you for the stuff!
You may only have two braincells but at least you can form a synapse. There are some people who would do well to have a synapse.
Instructions unclear my base now looks like Spaghetti 🍝
Alright. My thoughts on this.
My first question was which setup is he talking about right now? There are 3 on the screen, but nothing visual to indicate which exact one he is talking about.
I can kinda follow the context clues to understand, but it’s a bit hard to figure it out at times.
The part where you talked about the 3 input fixed that issue, and you used more visual indicators in the rest of the video.
Good work on this one. The very neat ways you removed stuff made the video more interesting.
Thank you for the compliments. I accept the criticisms, nothing is ever perfect. I'm not making it again!!
I like you trupen. But this guy is understandable.
No. Only train2train direct insertion is ok. :)
i alwasy use belt waving for my blocks. you can fit double the belts on one lane by using different color undergrounds, this limits throughput somewhat to only one max tier belt per lane but the extra space makes up for that i think ande nothing in the base game/ dlc needs that many I/O exepts labs maybe
Highly underrated video
I delude myself into thinking that this is the case for my whole channel
@@theotherbigfootIt's no delusion. I love your content, and you're massively under appreciated. Also 🏴
Sexy Blocks /w Beacons would be awsome
Say sexy blocks in factorio and no one baTts an eye
Say sexy blocks in Minecraft and SOCIETY, SOCIETY GOES MAD
I like your guides, but they're hard to find on your channel. Could you put them in a playlist?
Done
bigfoot do you know you can change the settings of helmod to see how many inserters you need and also see what decimal of assemble machines needed cuz rarely do you have it exactly perfect. just click the truck and gear near the top right. in the gear you can see something that says element with how many decimals you want
Ah! Hm, this feels denser. Though, I don't remember the V1 version off the top of my head.
v1 is worth forgetting. I'm a happier bunny now it has been consigned to the youtube dustbin
@@theotherbigfoot Them widgets though, holy crap I like them. A lot.
@@eddsson Me too
Awesome video ❤
it's so increddibly offputting the belts run backwards .. that and the volume is way too low
that aside .. great video, thx m8
Hi, would it be possible to add time stamps or chapters? It would make browsing this video a whole easier :)
What great content. Thank you! Unrelated question, do you have a list of your preferred mods somewhere?
Was there something specific you had in mind? I use a number of mods, some follow me everywhere, some just get pulled out for a specific situation. It really depends what you are looking to achieve.
@@theotherbigfoot Generally quality of life mods. Helmod is great which you mentioned, I love that one. There's something you had in your inventory at 10:41 in the video, a colourful icon on the far top right next to the gun icon. What is that?
@@SarelvdWalt That is a mod called 'color coding'. It has a whole host of different coloured things. Walls, concrete, lights.
One of the best QoL mods that I use is called 'what is it really used for'. It shows all the places where a particular thing will go or come from. Put an iron gear into it and it will show all the ways an iron gear can be made (maybe not useful in vanilla) and the places an iron gear needs to go. Starting a new set of mods with a new set of materials I've never used before, this thing is absolutely priceless.
@@theotherbigfoot Ah that is fantastic, thanks for the info. Appreciate it. Cheers :)
The fact that the belts are going backwards actually prevent me from following you lol
the rewind on the animation confused me for a bit, but then I realized why you did it. I think it would be fine to have bots make it
This wasn't rewound. It was timelapsed. Similar to when the wheel of a car spins quickly and looks like it is spinning backwards.
@@theotherbigfoot oh, interesting the rotoscope effect is playing aerious tricks
@@sakesaurus It isn't the first time I've noticed it in one of my timelapse videos.
Good to know the correct specific term though, you aren't the first to point this out, now at least I have the correct verbiage to reply with!!
@@theotherbigfoot i meant serious. But aerious sounds like another bookworm word XD
@@theotherbigfoot and yes. You're welcome
why are your belts moving in the opposite direction of the arrows on said belts?
Is it just me, or are the belts running backwards in the video?
maybe weird timing / framerate or something
Nice!!
Are there specific sizes you use for your big blocks? I see they’re constantly changing but they still seem like there are a set few that are reused. Sorry if I missed this in the video.
I will try and squeeze a factory into whatever size space I have available to me. They are always slightly different. That's kinda what I'm trying to get across with these kinds of videos, that there are an infinite number of ways to lay down the same factory, different shapes, different sizes, different geometries. It isn't for me to tell anyone how to build or what to build, I just want to give you/the viewer enough information to make your/their own decisions.
Perfekt video thanks
v2?
v1 gave a few people headaches, someone warned me about epilepsy. It didn't sit comfortably with me so I've redone it
@@theotherbigfoot ahhh, smart. Yeah I don't think I would be a very good youtube, glad you put in the consideration!
@@nickwilson4539 I want this collection of youtube videos I am building to be something I am proud of, something I consider to be conclusive on the topics I choose to cover. If a video is unwatchable then that is a problem I need to sort.
This isn't the first time I have redone a video and it won't be the last, there are a couple others that are already on my list.
I know when it is right, v2 is right, v1 was wrong.
It felt like starting a University again.
why don't you turn on the logistics mode in helmod so that it shows you how much of a belt something will take up or whatever
So... I take it, belt weaving is not sexy then? :P
If by belt weaving you mean running two belts one under the other so that they occupy the same tile width, well, I mean, me personally, I really really hate that. I would rather rip down my entire factory and start again than do that.
Some might say I have pretty extreme opinions when it comes to factorio. And they would be right.
The video is so fast, the conveyor belts are going backwards.
why your belts are movig backwards?
They aren't. I think it's similar to the effect of a car wheel spinning quickly where it looks like it is going backwards.
There are many ways but I always end up spaghetti.
Can you do this for Seablock?
Oof, I'd have to learn seablock first
could you post your blueprint book or link to a save game of your base?
All of the save game files should be in the descriptions of the relevant timelapse. Every base in the last 3 years has a timelapse.
@@theotherbigfoot thank your for your incredible work, i love no modules idea and is a pleasure watching your work, you are the new Michelangelo!
@@theotherbigfoot i did not find any files can you please guide me
6:15, good luck powering the right one without Substations
Is there something wrong with the standard power poles?
@@theotherbigfoot just to make it clear, I mean the right one visible from 5:55 to 6:18
nothing wrong with it but its radius is only 2, steel ones is 3 but to reach the red inserters from behind the chemical plant you would need at least 4 range in your configuration. In your build its possible to make space for power poles to fit in the middle so its just if you try it exactly like that without free space. I like your layout ideas and want to try some so thanks a lot for making this :)
@@ataarono I meant the steel ones, my bad, I forget the wooden ones exist I hate them so much.
I see your point though. What I generally do is bury the power pole in the conveyor belt in a place that isn't in the way of an inserter. Not the most elegant of solutions but it at least works. I care more about the positioning of the chem plants and conveyors and pipes etc than I do about the power.
No worries dude, thanks for tuning in. More is coming. More is always coming...
I wish we have some blueprints for this 😢
I really like the thought process you employ to design your blocks. I just wish you could share some save games so I could study those designs; I find it a bit difficult to follow the process and the designs on video.
All the save games are in the video descriptions for the timelapses. Have at it
you dont need to use both inputs for single input chemical plant recipes
I know, I just like doing it that way
my only problem with your designs is that there is no room to beacon. now with 2.0 I can make the compromise of just 1 beacon, but still beacons are important
you know, you said we should also try to come up with our own designs, but i think my designs would make you angry.. have you considered stuff like belt weaving, 2 belts in 1 using 2 different tiers of underground. or, in some designs when i neeed to output on the ending side of the input i will put the input on the inner sdie of a belt, and have the inserters both place and take from the same belt, so the output is on that very same belt, then using the underground trick to only take out of one side of the belt. i like making people shutter with the ideas of putting inputs and outputs on the same belts using weird mechanics. FOR EXAMPLE. using logic to only request the exact amount of input your factories will need. so that you can just put the output on the same belt. and let it run :) HOPING nothing makes its way through and mixes with output.
I love the idea that you are f*cking with the perceived wisdom, doing things that other people aren't doing and finding your own path.
But yes, your designs make me angry.
how to get blueprints of your build
@@iihhyu77 I'm working on something, should be soon
@@theotherbigfoot Want this very much!
where is the secret way of inserting 4 items into an assembly machine in one side? (figured it out)
I'm guessing you are using two inserters with a conveyor belt between them, but why limit yourself to just one side? There are a lot of ways to arrange a 4 input 1 output. The reason I didn't cover them is because they aren't critical for vanilla factories.
to create somthing like this ruclips.net/video/Xiv_QlvcyCk/видео.html i am not sure why is it so dark but this is what I could do
@@guszti014 That is freaking cool. Well, there are 16 too many beacons for my liking (!!) but the setup is awesome. What recipe is this for?
@@theotherbigfoot i didn't set any recipe yet, but flying robot frames can be used or lds which needs a lot of copper so u could use 2 belt off copper and the beacons were put there to show future upgardeablity or a lab setup
1:30 you do realize your belts are flowing backwards right? might want to get that checked out
The arrows do not align with the movement of the belt that we perceive. This looks like it may be an aspect of speeding up the video, much like looking at a spinning wheel that looks like it is going backwards at a certain speed.
Or the footage was reversed.
that accent. holy shit
Now do it for py mods
>using belts instead of transport drones
why?
I hate to see you videos, because comparing yours design with mine looks like I am a monkey throwing rocks.