Thanks for the great review. Like you, I'm a big fan of the Arex Delta. I became interested when I picked up one at a gun show and was immediately impressed by its light weight and the great fit in my hand. I bought a Gen1 version, but found a few things that kept me from really connecting to it and I gifted it to my son. But the Gen2 version fixed those issues and when I found an FDE non-OR version for under $300 (!) on line, I gave it another shot and have been thrilled with it so far.
The tactical looks really nice! I have 2 of the Arex Delta M Gen 2 models because I loved the first one so much! Looking forward to the shooting impressions review of the Tactical.
Replaced my Gen1 frame with a Gen.2 and et voilà ... Which is the way the gun should have been from the start. Arex pistols are high-quality, we love em'.
I have a gen 1 and changed the frame. I like the pistol and it shots well, but watch that support hand thumb doesn’t push down on the take down lever or the slide pops off on recoil. Ask me how I know. I had to replace the take down lever because I nicked it.
I wonder if these mags work on the p10c. the arex mags are much shorter than the cz and are compatible. it would take the p10c to a 17+1 without adding bearly any lenght
Glad you mentioned that the rupture on a gen 3 glock ruined the day but the shooter was ok...I actually like that feature on my glocks because from what I've seen all that pressure dumps down into the magwell. I'm ok with a destroyed magazine or pistol if it means I get to keep all of my fingers.
@@GBGuns Well you may have the experience to deal with a squib load but there's a lot of new shooters every year that don't...and that unsupported chamber may save them a trip to the E.R...stay well my man, love your videos.
Graham, I usually stay away from naming websites and product names in comments, but I'm going to do both now. PSA has Nosler 9mm 115gr jhp and 147gr ammo. Just a heads up!
G. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. And I am a subscriber and appreciate your gun reviews. I watched an ammo review by tnoutdoors9 recently for the Win USA Ready 9mm 124 gr. +P JHP load. It's one of the few times - maybe the only time - I've seen anyone get the kind of specs he did. It's also one of the few times that a 4" barreled handgun (G19) CHRONOGRAPHED close to the factory velocity rating of 1200 FPS. Low and behold, he somehow got the factory tested pressure rating and it was just under 35,000 PSI, which, in fact means that it's "standard pressure." I have been handloading for 37 years, which means that I began when the 9 x 19mm had a SAAMI Max Average Pressure rating, or MAP, of 35,700 CUP. As you know, that's an older and different type of pressure testing method, but still commonly used. However, if you take loads that test at 35,700 CUP and measure them by the Piezoelectric method used by SAAMI today, they will be very close to the current SAAMI limit for 9mm +P at 38,500 PSI. What occurred when SAAMI switched from CUP to PSI testing, they lowered the pressure of the 9 x 19mm to 35,000 PSI. They just didn't tell anyone. They just added the +P designation for anything above 35,000 PSI, while, in fact the pressure for +P does not exceed the pressure level from what existed at 35,700 CUP. CIP is yet another different test method - that many consider superior - where results are given in PSI, BARs and mega-pascals. The CIP MAP for 9mm NATO is 36,500 PSI, but would not measure 36,500 PSI by SAAMI's test method. And of course, 5.56mm NATO's pressure was also established by the CIP method and certainly higher than the 55,000 PSI that SAAMI allows for the .223 REM. Yet SAAMI is perfectly capable of testing in CIP, they just don't bother to make that common knowledge, as is the case for many of their members, while, in fact, they slap +P designations on many loads that don't actually test above 35,000 PSI. It's about marketing and velocityP: NOT Pressure. But I believe that it's incorrect for you to state that +P isn't necessary for barrels longer than 4". These are the types of statements that get non-handloaders into trouble. But even then, it's only a minority of handloaders that truly understand the various effects and limits of pressure. Here's an example, regardless of the early hype about the .40 S&W requiring greater slide mass, yada, yada. Early on, that was commonly done. Today it's not the case so much. The .40 S&W was also given a 35,000 PSI MAP by SAAMI, and handloaders that don't quite understand the dynamics of pressure had problems with what came to be known as Ka-Booms. Very fact burning propellants improperly used, and in some cases double-charges were involved. Not always though. When SIG and Federal devised the .357 SIG, they got SAAMI to allow a 40,000 PSI MAP which it continues to have while the .40 S&W is the parent case of the .357 SIG. The case-head of the .357 SIG was strengthened in it's web area by the brass being thickened. However, no current autoloading pistol case - outside of the exotics created from it - have a stronger casehead than the 9 x 19mm. The exotics being things like the original 9 x 21mm which was just the 9 x 19mm lengthened by 2mm. The S&W TSW variant and the 9 x 23mm Winchester. In well made pistols, there is simply no valid reason why the same pistol built for .40 S&W and .357 SIG can not handle 9mm +P. The caveat being that long ago, American pistol manufacturers went to lighter recoil springs for proper functioning of the lower pressure rounds. They are also SAAMI members, so they don't say that either. The Easy remedy: if you shoot true 9mm +P as produced by companies like Underwoods and Double-Tap, you can simply change to heavier recoil springs. If Pistol X is made in all 3 cartridges, you can go up to the spring weight used by that company for the .40 S&W variant. And, of course, WolFF Gunspring company lists those weights for the pistols they make recoil springs for. Since the wave of Turkish import pistols, particularly Canik and Sarsilmaz, about 95% of the reviewers I watch had malfunction issues because they used low velocity 115 gr. ammo or lighter while these pistols, as stated in their instruction manuals, were made for 9mm NATO ammo which, of course specs an 8 gram or 124 gr. FMJ bullet. In reality, we'd all be much better off and SAFER if all companies used the CIP test method and used the 9mm NATO standard for pressure. Otherwise you're gonna have to buy Underwoods, Double-Tap, Buffalo Bore or Cor-Bon to be assured or getting genuine 9mm+P ammunition. And for those that believe that energy from handgun cartridges is irrelevant, they also probably subscribe to the notion that CIVILIANs need to be obsessed with the FBI's obsession for penetration of up to 18" after barriers while one of the most effective rounds ever used by Law Enforcement, the 125 gr. .357 Magnum, often times did not penetrate much deeper than 10". And as we learned after the 1986 Miami Fiasco, the subsonic cure that FAILED, was because the 147 gr. JHPs were traveling too slow to expand properly and behaved more like FMJ. Overpenetration resulted in the accidental wounding of bystanders, and there were a number of civil lawsuits of record that resulted. Considering the low recoil of the 9 x 19mm, it really surprises me that anyone could be overly concerned with the recoil levels of 9mm +P from service size pistols. But I realize that not everyone started out by learning the .357 Magnum DA revolver, fired with .357 Magnum ammo in DA mode as required, like I did. Something many law enforcement officers struggled with from having little to no experience shooting them, no interest, or no motivation to practice enough. Moral to this story is that the P in 9mm+P is a Pink Elephant that never needed to exist which SAAMI could rectify by adopting the 9mm NATO standard and pressure testing method, which they're all capable of anyway!
The .357 Sig parent case isn't .40 S&W, but the 10mm. That's why the brass is thicker and the case is slightly longer. They didn't beef it up, it already was like that.
I wish I could convince manufacturers to abandon the loaded chamber indicator. I had a bad experience with one, and now I can't trust them. Easy enough to remove, but then I'm left with another hole for dirt and debris.
@@GBGuns It broke and wouldn't go into battery. I believe what happened is the spring flipped over on it's side, and when the slide closed the indicator couldn't pivot up and out of the way. This resulted in the portion of the indicator behind the pin to break off. I think it also bent the portion in front of the pin preventing it from pivoting up. The gun wouldn't run until I removed what was left of the indicator. Probably a one in a million issue, but still enough to leave a bad taste.
@@GBGuns It's a Canik TP9. At the time it was about 3 months old, and I had put maybe 500-800 rounds through it. Their customer service was good. They immediately sent me an indicator with spring and pin no questions asked. Since replacing it, I've put another 500 or so through it with no problem. It's retired now. No longer sits by the bed.
@@dealspeed6756 The internal extractor is almost identical to an XD/XDM. The rest of the internals either look like a cz p10 or a VP9. I’d have to look at those again to compare. It’s definitely not a Glock clone.
@@dealspeed6756 Yeah I just checked and I’m pretty sure Arex made its own design internally. I’ve never seen anything like it with the exception of the extractor. The only thing design wise in common with a Glock is the take down lever. So it’s not really a clone of anything other than it’s another polymer gun.
Full review, specs, pricing, and where to find one: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/arex-delta-x-tactical
Thanks for the great review. Like you, I'm a big fan of the Arex Delta. I became interested when I picked up one at a gun show and was immediately impressed by its light weight and the great fit in my hand. I bought a Gen1 version, but found a few things that kept me from really connecting to it and I gifted it to my son. But the Gen2 version fixed those issues and when I found an FDE non-OR version for under $300 (!) on line, I gave it another shot and have been thrilled with it so far.
I like what I see. Thanks, GB! 🇺🇲
The tactical looks really nice! I have 2 of the Arex Delta M Gen 2 models because I loved the first one so much! Looking forward to the shooting impressions review of the Tactical.
(Easter egg: the link to the range video is in the article)
Fantastic.
I just ordered this in the grey grip. 🤞
Congrats
Top of the morning to ya , I like the Arex Delta Tac .. It has a good feel to it ! They shoot nice as well.. Enjoyed
And the rest of the day to you!
Replaced my Gen1 frame with a Gen.2 and et voilà ... Which is the way the gun should have been from the start. Arex pistols are high-quality, we love em'.
Seems like a good piece
I have a gen 1 and changed the frame. I like the pistol and it shots well, but watch that support hand thumb doesn’t push down on the take down lever or the slide pops off on recoil. Ask me how I know. I had to replace the take down lever because I nicked it.
I came to the comment section after seeing how little you have to move the slide for it to separate from frame. Looks like a week spot.
No one minds that on Caniks
😳 it comes in green?! I got a Grey delta x 6 months ago and love it. Maybe have to get the delta L in green
You can also just get the grips and swap it.
Waiting for the zero 2 tactical.
I wonder if these mags work on the p10c. the arex mags are much shorter than the cz and are compatible. it would take the p10c to a 17+1 without adding bearly any lenght
The mullet gun 🤣👉💨
Glad you mentioned that the rupture on a gen 3 glock ruined the day but the shooter was ok...I actually like that feature on my glocks because from what I've seen all that pressure dumps down into the magwell. I'm ok with a destroyed magazine or pistol if it means I get to keep all of my fingers.
I'd rather it go out the barrel and leave both my hand AND gun intact.
@@GBGuns Well you may have the experience to deal with a squib load but there's a lot of new shooters every year that don't...and that unsupported chamber may save them a trip to the E.R...stay well my man, love your videos.
Graham, I usually stay away from naming websites and product names in comments, but I'm going to do both now. PSA has Nosler 9mm 115gr jhp and 147gr ammo. Just a heads up!
Thanks!
G. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. And I am a subscriber and appreciate your gun reviews. I watched an ammo review by tnoutdoors9 recently for the Win USA Ready 9mm 124 gr. +P JHP load. It's one of the few times - maybe the only time - I've seen anyone get the kind of specs he did. It's also one of the few times that a 4" barreled handgun (G19) CHRONOGRAPHED close to the factory velocity rating of 1200 FPS. Low and behold, he somehow got the factory tested pressure rating and it was just under 35,000 PSI, which, in fact means that it's "standard pressure." I have been handloading for 37 years, which means that I began when the 9 x 19mm had a SAAMI Max Average Pressure rating, or MAP, of 35,700 CUP. As you know, that's an older and different type of pressure testing method, but still commonly used. However, if you take loads that test at 35,700 CUP and measure them by the Piezoelectric method used by SAAMI today, they will be very close to the current SAAMI limit for 9mm +P at 38,500 PSI. What occurred when SAAMI switched from CUP to PSI testing, they lowered the pressure of the 9 x 19mm to 35,000 PSI. They just didn't tell anyone. They just added the +P designation for anything above 35,000 PSI, while, in fact the pressure for +P does not exceed the pressure level from what existed at 35,700 CUP. CIP is yet another different test method - that many consider superior - where results are given in PSI, BARs and mega-pascals. The CIP MAP for 9mm NATO is 36,500 PSI, but would not measure 36,500 PSI by SAAMI's test method. And of course, 5.56mm NATO's pressure was also established by the CIP method and certainly higher than the 55,000 PSI that SAAMI allows for the .223 REM. Yet SAAMI is perfectly capable of testing in CIP, they just don't bother to make that common knowledge, as is the case for many of their members, while, in fact, they slap +P designations on many loads that don't actually test above 35,000 PSI. It's about marketing and velocityP: NOT Pressure. But I believe that it's incorrect for you to state that +P isn't necessary for barrels longer than 4". These are the types of statements that get non-handloaders into trouble. But even then, it's only a minority of handloaders that truly understand the various effects and limits of pressure. Here's an example, regardless of the early hype about the .40 S&W requiring greater slide mass, yada, yada. Early on, that was commonly done. Today it's not the case so much. The .40 S&W was also given a 35,000 PSI MAP by SAAMI, and handloaders that don't quite understand the dynamics of pressure had problems with what came to be known as Ka-Booms. Very fact burning propellants improperly used, and in some cases double-charges were involved. Not always though. When SIG and Federal devised the .357 SIG, they got SAAMI to allow a 40,000 PSI MAP which it continues to have while the .40 S&W is the parent case of the .357 SIG. The case-head of the .357 SIG was strengthened in it's web area by the brass being thickened. However, no current autoloading pistol case - outside of the exotics created from it - have a stronger casehead than the 9 x 19mm. The exotics being things like the original 9 x 21mm which was just the 9 x 19mm lengthened by 2mm. The S&W TSW variant and the 9 x 23mm Winchester. In well made pistols, there is simply no valid reason why the same pistol built for .40 S&W and .357 SIG can not handle 9mm +P. The caveat being that long ago, American pistol manufacturers went to lighter recoil springs for proper functioning of the lower pressure rounds. They are also SAAMI members, so they don't say that either. The Easy remedy: if you shoot true 9mm +P as produced by companies like Underwoods and Double-Tap, you can simply change to heavier recoil springs. If Pistol X is made in all 3 cartridges, you can go up to the spring weight used by that company for the .40 S&W variant. And, of course, WolFF Gunspring company lists those weights for the pistols they make recoil springs for. Since the wave of Turkish import pistols, particularly Canik and Sarsilmaz, about 95% of the reviewers I watch had malfunction issues because they used low velocity 115 gr. ammo or lighter while these pistols, as stated in their instruction manuals, were made for 9mm NATO ammo which, of course specs an 8 gram or 124 gr. FMJ bullet. In reality, we'd all be much better off and SAFER if all companies used the CIP test method and used the 9mm NATO standard for pressure. Otherwise you're gonna have to buy Underwoods, Double-Tap, Buffalo Bore or Cor-Bon to be assured or getting genuine 9mm+P ammunition. And for those that believe that energy from handgun cartridges is irrelevant, they also probably subscribe to the notion that CIVILIANs need to be obsessed with the FBI's obsession for penetration of up to 18" after barriers while one of the most effective rounds ever used by Law Enforcement, the 125 gr. .357 Magnum, often times did not penetrate much deeper than 10". And as we learned after the 1986 Miami Fiasco, the subsonic cure that FAILED, was because the 147 gr. JHPs were traveling too slow to expand properly and behaved more like FMJ. Overpenetration resulted in the accidental wounding of bystanders, and there were a number of civil lawsuits of record that resulted. Considering the low recoil of the 9 x 19mm, it really surprises me that anyone could be overly concerned with the recoil levels of 9mm +P from service size pistols. But I realize that not everyone started out by learning the .357 Magnum DA revolver, fired with .357 Magnum ammo in DA mode as required, like I did. Something many law enforcement officers struggled with from having little to no experience shooting them, no interest, or no motivation to practice enough. Moral to this story is that the P in 9mm+P is a Pink Elephant that never needed to exist which SAAMI could rectify by adopting the 9mm NATO standard and pressure testing method, which they're all capable of anyway!
The .357 Sig parent case isn't .40 S&W, but the 10mm. That's why the brass is thicker and the case is slightly longer. They didn't beef it up, it already was like that.
@@onpsxmember On top of the 10mm having a large primer pocket, if you trim a case to a length proper for the .357 SIG you'll get thicker case-necks.
Hum looks alot like another better than a glock glock.
Not much in common with a Glock, these are chassis guns, ergonomic, and not from the 90s!
Are these Glock clones? They seem slightly different than most gen 3 clones
Not at all, totally different and modular design. These are chassis guns.
@@GBGuns oh very cool that's make it even better
@@dealspeed6756 (most guns made after 1990 are better than a Glock in one way or another)
I wish I could convince manufacturers to abandon the loaded chamber indicator. I had a bad experience with one, and now I can't trust them. Easy enough to remove, but then I'm left with another hole for dirt and debris.
What happened?
@@GBGuns It broke and wouldn't go into battery. I believe what happened is the spring flipped over on it's side, and when the slide closed the indicator couldn't pivot up and out of the way. This resulted in the portion of the indicator behind the pin to break off. I think it also bent the portion in front of the pin preventing it from pivoting up. The gun wouldn't run until I removed what was left of the indicator. Probably a one in a million issue, but still enough to leave a bad taste.
@jbred6049 wow! I've never seen something like that, but believe it could happen. Which model gun and how was their customer service?
@@GBGuns It's a Canik TP9. At the time it was about 3 months old, and I had put maybe 500-800 rounds through it. Their customer service was good. They immediately sent me an indicator with spring and pin no questions asked. Since replacing it, I've put another 500 or so through it with no problem. It's retired now. No longer sits by the bed.
Yeah. Back in 1996, a loaded chamber indicator broke into my home and done a rape on me. I wish I didn’t have to see them everywhere too.
It looks a Tisas Px9 gen 3.
I thought so as well, though the Delta seems more like a glock clone while the Px9 seems to be an XDM clone.
@@dealspeed6756 The internal extractor is almost identical to an XD/XDM. The rest of the internals either look like a cz p10 or a VP9. I’d have to look at those again to compare. It’s definitely not a Glock clone.
@@dealspeed6756 Yeah I just checked and I’m pretty sure Arex made its own design internally. I’ve never seen anything like it with the exception of the extractor. The only thing design wise in common with a Glock is the take down lever.
So it’s not really a clone of anything other than it’s another polymer gun.
@96stealth I really like the look of them. Only downside is nobody local carries them.
So you can take the slide off the gun and show how to clean it but you can't replace the back for the grips? That's insanity by the RUclips.
Yup. Frustratingly illogical too