Hawaii Playground Dynamics: Dealing With Rough Kids and Other Parents

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @HelloFromHawaii
    @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад +11

    When it comes to other kids and their parents at playgrounds in Hawaii, it's an interesting mix. Like I mentioned, I believe (and hope) all parents are trying their best to raise their child. We never know other people's circumstances, so I usually reserve any judgment. But having gone to a lot of playgrounds on Oahu, it's interesting to see what parents do and how they watch, or don't watch, their child. If you're a parent, how did you deal with other kids on the playground?

    • @mikeh-p7q
      @mikeh-p7q 7 месяцев назад +2

      I couldn't post.

    • @Yograce2
      @Yograce2 7 месяцев назад

      @@mikeh-p7qHa ha

    • @SuiGenerisAbbie
      @SuiGenerisAbbie 7 месяцев назад

      Chris, where did you start out walking in this video, please? I am curious to know, because the backdrop behind you looks so nice.

    • @SuiGenerisAbbie
      @SuiGenerisAbbie 7 месяцев назад +1

      Chris many times the locals can be rougher than the visitor kids, you know?

    • @tracyalan7201
      @tracyalan7201 7 месяцев назад +2

      I know your wife and you will reasonable & appropriate about your response. First time and no injuries, I wouldn't say much. Second time, I'll say something to the parent. If it starts escalating, I'd leave, as I haven't heard of parent's fist fighting other parents in the islands, but, I remember reading about local parents raising a ruckus with coaches about something the parent getting wild with their kid's sporting team but it has happened in past.

  • @jt2553
    @jt2553 7 месяцев назад +4

    1) People take “It takes a village to raise a child” too far, they seem to expect the village to raise their children. 2) Parents’ irresponsibility is causing entitled people which is causing problems in our society.

    • @noelxlk
      @noelxlk 7 месяцев назад

      The parents need to BE the village

  • @2-old-Forthischet
    @2-old-Forthischet 7 месяцев назад +4

    It's a screwed up new world, even in Hawaii.
    When I was growing up in Hawaii, I knew better than to get into trouble. My mother would chew me out and my father would, well, today, my father would be charged with child cruelty!

    • @EvilTheOne
      @EvilTheOne 7 месяцев назад

      My parents were old school, since I was born in the early 1960's. If an incident happened, their initial thought always was that I was wrong. I didn't much like it, if I felt that I was in the right. Although these days, having a parent always blindly defending their child doesn't help the child if/when they grow up in being a bully.

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад

      Different world in parenting.

  • @NormPetersonsBarStool
    @NormPetersonsBarStool 7 месяцев назад +3

    Cmon bro.
    You grew up in hawaii.
    No can hang drink tang

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад

      lol

    • @NormPetersonsBarStool
      @NormPetersonsBarStool 7 месяцев назад

      Love the channel!
      Really awesome POV from a local dude that moved back.
      Local kids are rough
      If you want your kids to grow up in hawaii. You have to let them learn how to.

  • @crpond3699
    @crpond3699 7 месяцев назад +4

    I was pushed off the bars as a child by a rough bully at the school yard play ground. It caused a bone break in my wrist. I remember, I even stopped my violin lessons. Yes, kids need to learn better manners.

  • @erickim2025
    @erickim2025 7 месяцев назад +3

    Parent have to take responsibility for the actions of their children & if need be speak up to them, too bad it happens😢

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад

      It's a tough situation. My wife told me about an incident that happened at a playground today. Seems to be happening more these days, but it may just be a playground thing that's always happened.

  • @junior72278
    @junior72278 7 месяцев назад +2

    Well presented!! Everyone needs to be responsible for actions of their own kids. Respecting others and teaching your own kids to respect but also stand on their own. Kids will be kids and parents need to watch and guide them. Pointing fingahs at others is not the thing to do. Caring for all... that's Aloha!

  • @galveston4095
    @galveston4095 7 месяцев назад +1

    Soft parenting? Distracted caretakers. Teaching your children how to interact with others is a huge part of parenting.

  • @JapanDream808
    @JapanDream808 7 месяцев назад +4

    Being a Hawaii local living in Japan, I'm always surprised how peaceful it is in parks here. Kids in Japan play together, and parents all get along. What's even more unreal is how little children commute to school by themselves, using the trains and walking with no supervision. Keep up the great work with your vids! Aloha from Yokohama, Japan🤙

    • @EvilTheOne
      @EvilTheOne 7 месяцев назад +2

      So true! What behavior we allow as acceptable in our culture has a lot to do with the conduct of our population.

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад +4

      I noticed that too. We really enjoyed the playgrounds in Japan. Kids just learned to take turns and wait in line for the slide or swings.

    • @JapanDream808
      @JapanDream808 7 месяцев назад

      @@HelloFromHawaii Mahaloz🤙🏽 Next time you’re in Japan I’d love to show you folks around Yokohama. Ed of VHO7V enjoyed my tour😎

    • @alexcarter8807
      @alexcarter8807 7 месяцев назад +1

      Congratulations on being able to live in Japan. It would be my dream too but almost certainly an impossible dream for me.

    • @JapanDream808
      @JapanDream808 7 месяцев назад

      @@alexcarter8807 Thank you. It was hard getting here, but even harder to leave. All the best to you.

  • @eileentaba960
    @eileentaba960 7 месяцев назад

    Your wife`s English is terrific! I can hear how she’s losing her accent. Kudos to you both!
    I can’t believe I grew up up by that Park. Used to skate and play ball there with neighborhood kids.

  • @jonnuanez7183
    @jonnuanez7183 7 месяцев назад

    Not only was your wife's input valuable and just plain cool; but it made your video less formal and more like 2 people talking about a subject.

  • @reneecollin8825
    @reneecollin8825 7 месяцев назад

    its not just in Hawaii - this foolishness with bratty kids, and aloof parents are all over the US ! There's no more thing as "home training" ! so sad

  • @tl2813
    @tl2813 7 месяцев назад

    Cell phones need to be put away when you need to pay full attention to your children.

  • @alexcarter8807
    @alexcarter8807 7 месяцев назад +1

    I gained a very interesting and I think valuable insight when I was a kid living in Punalu'u in the 70s. My usual bus stop, the one kind of across from Kaya's Store (and right across from our house) had some "tough" kids hanging around so I walked up to the next one, in front of Pat's In Punalu'u.
    There was one old haole guy there, and by way of conversation I said I don't usually wait at this stop, but had some there because of the bullies etc. Now, in the 1970s, when talking with an old guy of this guy's age, one could assume they'd fought in WWII and often, had been all over the Pacific. They'd been around and had a lot of experiences.
    So this guy said to me something like, "You know why the Samoan kids always want to fight?" and I was all ears. He said that when they were moving to the USA, which of course Hawaii is part of, they want to fit in so they'd really learn all the "American culture" they could and that included watching tons of American movies. And what do you find in the movies? John Wayne! He said that in all these movies, whenever there's any sort of disagreement, everyone fights. So these kids, trying to be "American", think this is the proper way to be - you have to fight a lot. After all, that's all they're seeing of "American life".
    And he was right, I think. My high school was Kahuku, which has this stereotype of being this tough school full of bullies. But the Samoan and Tahitian etc., kids, the ones who were "fresh off the boat", didn't fight very much. They were really good, well-behaved kids. The ones who were real rascals were the local kids who were pretty completely "Americanized" and typically had a lot of problems like poverty, broken family, being in an environment where you couldn't show weakness, etc. This included local haole kids in fact, in fact they were some of the worst.
    If you can get your kid into any of the martial arts, doesn't matter which one, but so they have a circle of friends, learn social skills (a lot of the exercises you have to do with other kids and they take cooperation) and learn to be a little bit athletic at least as far as not freaking out if they get pushed down, just basic stuff like that, it can be a huge help.
    About 2 year olds being picked on by bigger kids, that's where I think you have to find a nice circle of kids for your kid to play in, not some randos in some city playground. 2-3 years old is little!

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад

      Mahalo for the insight. Interesting that it was the local kids who were causing trouble.

    • @alexcarter8807
      @alexcarter8807 7 месяцев назад

      @@HelloFromHawaii It was anyone who was really "Americanized". By this I mean, they were probably raised by a TV set more than their parents. For a while, as long as I could afford the $4 a month membership fee (which wasn't for long as that was a lot of money for me) I went to an Aikido class held in a Buddhist temple in Kahuku in the old neighborhood across from Kahuku School. The kids there had obviously been in the US for a few generations, we're talking shisei/sansei kids, but because they had intact families, an intact social network, a sense of honor and duty and social cohesiveness, none of these kids were trouble kids at all, the very opposite. "Americanization" means being all on your own, and from about age 13 on. Family all split apart and usually living long distances from each other, no one helping each other, all on their own. What's left is this lowest-common-denominator way of living where fighting and being "tough" is just about all there is. So it wasn't as simple as "local kids" causing the trouble it was local-Hawaiian, local-haole, very rarely any kid who was from an Asian background even though the largest single group in Hawaii might be described as local of Asian background.

  • @dancermom2
    @dancermom2 7 месяцев назад +1

    Born and raised in Hawai'i and moved to NYC and raised my family. I raised 4 kids in NYC. My 2nd oldest now lives in Honolulu with her husband and almost 2 year old son. I was literally just there and one of the things we did was to take my grandson to the playground at the zoo. (There wasn't much else to do there -- where are the animals???!!!) In any case, no incidents to speak of there but....we are not the type of parents/grandparents who would let our 22 month old grandson on the playground without one of us right there with him. We would never let him go on it by himself with older kids also running around there. If there is an issue I don't blame the older kids like it was an evil deed -- most of them just don't think about the younger ones while they are playing which is why we are there with our grandson on the playground equipment. I will say if you are a parent and your older child is there and you are not supervising that child I will tell your child to stop...watch out you are going to if my grandson is endangered by what they are doing or if they are climbing up the slide and my grandson is waiting to go down I will tell them to please let my child go down the slide. If you don't like that then supervise your older child. Just because they are older it doesn't mean you are not responsible for what they are doing. Be present for your child when you take them to the playground and there are other kids around. That is how I raised my own kids in the playgrounds of NYC. This issue is not new. It went on when my kids are little and it still is going on and it's not just a Hawai'i thing. Tale as old as time as the saying goes.
    BTW, where is that playground you were at? We will be back in couple of weeks and it looks like a good place to take my grandson since he lives around where you are usually walking and filming.

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад +1

      Mahalo for the comment. I think you brought up a good point about being present. That could mean standing close or just watching from a bench.
      It's Mother Waldren Park. You might also want to check out Kolowalu Park. Nice shade.

    • @dancermom2
      @dancermom2 7 месяцев назад

      @@HelloFromHawaiiMahalo for letting me know the playgrounds!! If the kids are older you don't need to be with them but it also doesn't mean it absolves you of responsibility for the kids behavior. Like you said -- watch from a bench. The key is watching what your kid is doing. Being present solves a lot of problems but actually doing it? Not everyone does it in the age of cell phones.

  • @Keliiyamashita
    @Keliiyamashita 7 месяцев назад

    Your kids are still really young. Trust me, you’re not gonna really watch them at 5. Mainly watching that they don’t get snatched. Of course correct your kid if they get nuts, and comment to other kids if they get nuts.

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад

      I might still have to watch closely when they are five. My older son is pretty active. He keeps to himself, but the kid can run fast. 😆

  • @alexcarter8807
    @alexcarter8807 7 месяцев назад

    Why do you think so many parents have their kids going to martial arts classes in Hawaii? Not so much to beef but they learn to fall, they end up with an automatic circle of friends, and they learn social skills.

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад

      Interesting point. I was thinking about signing up my older son.

  • @EvilTheOne
    @EvilTheOne 7 месяцев назад +1

    - A person once told me that we cannot affect the way people act, only the way we react to it. As other parents are responsible for the conduct of their own children, we cannot influence the way they raise their children and the resulting behavior. Approaching a parent and mentioning to them what their child has done to our children, can be taken as insinuating to 'them' that they are a bad parent. This is a balancing act of sensing when to approach or to step away from the park/playground.
    - Absent parents: If parents aren't astute enough to account for the actions of their children when in a social setting, a percentage of them may just defend their children whether they are right or wrong. So part, these parents will end up defending their children no matter what their age. This is in spite that their children may be the one who is wrong in a particular situation. Instead of being confrontational, a parent might be incline to just gather up their own children and walk away from the situation, before it has the chance to escalate between the adults.
    - Neighborhood's friendly confines: Nowadays, people come from all over the place, and many children don't even go to school in the neighborhood they live in. So unlike my childhood, where I played with many of the kids I went to school with, many children are playing around stranger nowadays.
    - Communication, conversation, consideration: I feel if parent talk to one another when going to the park/playground, then they may be less incline to be confrontational with one another if an incident happens between the children. They even might be more incline to listen to what transpired, transition towards empathy, rather than be reactive and defensive.

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад

      Great suggestions. Copied and pasted in a Google doc for later reminders for myself. 🤙

  • @lunithefoxfreitas2181
    @lunithefoxfreitas2181 7 месяцев назад

    In Maui elementary school I was at the school playground here were these triangle parallel bars. I was walking up these bars and this girl humira ing an airplane runs under my legs to take me out. The principal asks her why she did that her answer was I kept going up the top.

  • @guslevy3506
    @guslevy3506 7 месяцев назад

    This video is essentially the argument for sending kids to a good private school versus a poorly run public school.
    Most of the kids everywhere are fine and decent, but unfortunately, the few rotten ones are allowed to behave poorly in the bad public schools without penalties or repercussions for their poor behaviors. Since parents at good private schools have “skin in the game” by paying tuition, there is zero tolerance for foolishness by their children since expulsions will occur..

    • @808lublabs4
      @808lublabs4 7 месяцев назад

      Those kids have been around forever but the difference before is that kids were allowed to stand up for themselves rather than having their parents solve their problems. This issue with kids not knowing how to solve their own problems and waiting for someone to do it for them has become evident in the current workforce. Young people are always waiting for others to show them what to do instead of trying to resolve their own issues. There needs to be a balance from parents of letting them experience life and keeping them from going on the wrong path. The terms used for todays parents is lawnmower parents because they clear the way for them their whole childhood but when issues arise later in life they have no idea how to clear those roadblocks.

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад

      I'm not sure I would agree with that argument. Is private school "good" because of the academics or because of the expectations of certain behaviors? Is the reason to send kids to private school moreso to protect them from "bad kids" or to send them to a place where they can learn better?

    • @guslevy3506
      @guslevy3506 7 месяцев назад

      @@HelloFromHawaii A good learning environment allows for better learning…which reinforces the good learning environment, which allows for better learning…
      A classic example of a positive feedback loop…

  • @kalkeikuu
    @kalkeikuu 7 месяцев назад +1

    In my experience, my kids were picked on here in Hawaii because they are Asian and there is a lot of racism here, and well across the U.S. What I learned is that we need to push back, stand up for ourselves and our children !!! One time, my daughter was shoved by an older child, and my husband got so pissed, that he shoved the kid back for my daughter at Chuck E Cheese, although that wasn't right, at least he stood up for her, and thankfully that child's parent didn't go after my husband. It's just us Asians get pushed around too much that eventually one day you snap.

    • @HelloFromHawaii
      @HelloFromHawaii  7 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry to hear about your experience. I wouldn't go so far to encourage pushing another child (or your own, for that matter), but I agree that standing up for oneself is important to learn.

    • @kalkeikuu
      @kalkeikuu 7 месяцев назад

      @@HelloFromHawaii ♥️

    • @dbb086
      @dbb086 7 месяцев назад +1

      Having lived on the mainland my whole life, the harsh reality is if I "snap" Ive just given the people doing me wrong a narrative to demonize me. I have asian heritage and I can no longer identify by race because in America it's a label that has been used to control me and lead me to be exploited. No matter what people call me, I have to have a deeper understanding and spiritual direction in myself beyond race in order to survive.
      Beyond all of the deception and false narratives everything comes down to morality and spirituality. A lot of the time that cuts all the way down to the flesh.
      For me, I have had no where to turn but God. Any power I have in this world is from putting God before everyone and everything and staying on the straight and narrow best I can.
      I will not sacrifice my soul out of anger, bitterness, or vengeance no matter how justified. When I die, I don't want to let the world's anger and bitterness be written on my heart. I want to have peace inside knowing I sought a life of peace toward others no matter what type of spirit they were battling within themselves.
      Only God knows what many of us have been through. Everyone has adversity, but its not equal and there is no prize for what they have been through. Adversity doesnt always make someone better. Sometimes it makes them bitter. And it snowballs a lot faster. And a lot of us will have a 100x harder test to not let the world make us bitter about the reality we are given compared to others. For me it has made me detatch from this world and grow closer to God because it will always be filled with sin and injustice, the only place I truly can find peace and freedom in this life is within.
      I apologize for the long response. It just struck a cord with me because I spent a lot of my childhood fighting back out of justified anger, and nothing good ever came of it. In the end, I would be put on display as the villain. May not be the same for you, this is just my story

    • @kalkeikuu
      @kalkeikuu 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@dbb086 ♥️

  • @suryaplara316
    @suryaplara316 7 месяцев назад

    I like this video, thank you for sharing

  • @CutePanties
    @CutePanties 7 месяцев назад

    Children are the future of America xvxxii