5-8 is four seasons too. I liked seasons 5,6 and 7 at the time but I've tried watching the whole thing again and I cant get past season 5. When you know every single story thread goes absolutely nowhere it makes the boring scenes even more tedious. The whole tone of the show shifted and the writing fell off a cliff. "Game of Thrones was cancelled after season 4." 🚫
@@NowhereMan7 Seasons 5 and 6 are still mostly good and include some of the best episodes of the series. Yes, some of the plotlines were bad or went nowhere, but not all.
@@MatthewTheWanderer I used to think that too till Irewatched years after season 8 ended. Which of the over arcing stories reaches a natural conclusion? "Mankind fights for power while ignoring an increasingly urgent and far greater threat. We know nothing about them but they make these strange symbols that must mean something. A prince was promised. He is secretly a Targaryen." None of that end sup mattering.
@@NowhereMan7 Those story arcs go nowhere, but those 2 don't matter anyway. They are and always were and always will be distractions from the main story. I always hated the White Walker subplot even in the first scene of Season 1 Episode 1. I couldn't care less about zombies or prophecies in this series.
@@MatthewTheWanderer that is what the show is about. It's a analogous to mankind and global warming on earth. The long night, the threat beyond the wall, the long forgotten power/magic that are still in the world and the one who is prophesied to end the long night - an unlikely bastard of unknown great lineage. Those are not subplots. They are the over arcing theme of the books and the show up until they just threw it all in the bin. Subplots are introduced and finished within the series like Oberyns revenge on Gregor.
I would say one more mistake in season 1 was Robert's hunting party. A royal hunt would have hunting tents, banquet tables, and an entire garrison of soldiers to protect the king. It wouldn't be three guys trotting through the woods. I'm pretty sure George R.R. Martin or D&D even commented on it being their worst adapted scene. King Viserys' hunt in HotD was way more faithful to what a royal hunt _would've_ been.
That's less of a mistake and more a reflection of the fact the show literally just didn't have enough money to do that scene properly during season 1. You have to remember that Game of Thrones season 1 was made with significantly less money than the rest of the show, because it hadn't become a huge commercial success yet.
@@ultrabigfellayou're right. It's crazy how cheap a lot of season 1 looks despite the fact that the season had a budget of around 50 million dollars. Talks about how expensive tv series are.
@@OcarinaSapphr-Agreed, I initially thought the fact tht it isn't in any records IS the indication that Cersei is lying to Catelyn (messing with her but also planting the idea that all her kids are Robert's). Since it is real, I guess the lack of records is...to spare their feelings? Not as fun.
@@MycoCane Which also makes little sense in the context: it's a *royal* child, however short-lived; King Charles I & Henrietta Maria had a son & daughter that died within a day of being born- all of Queen Anne's double-figure miscarriages, stillbirths, & short-lived children were noted, not just the ones that made it past infancy - even in the source material; Queen Rhaella's many short-lived & lost pregnancies were noted, not just the resultant children that survived -- unless it were an abomination (& sometimes, even when they are) - there _should_ be some record, because these *_aren't_* private people, & it isn't a private matter, however sad & personal it may be- it's a matter-of-state; Dumbarse & Dipsh^t didn't have a great understanding for the worldbuilding (& all the things that went into world-building, if the behind-the-scenes stuff that's come out, is anything to go by)- all they thought of was 'cool scene' & "these shots- these faces"... Edit: word
the only thing i really dont like is that tywin scene at the end, not only is he wrong in that dragons havent won a war in 300 years (its more like 170), he completely ignores the fact that there were no dragons to win wars, but when there were they constantly did
That’s odd though because dragons didn’t particularly win the dance of dragons, most died over the course of the war and it pretty much comes down to Aegon catching and killing Rhaenyra by burning her alive with his dragon Sunfyre, who proceeds to die of prior injuries a few months? later. The four remaining dragons were either wild by nature or by necessity, and one that had been too young to fight in the war. Within only 25 years the last known dragon had died.
That is true but in the battles that they fought in they were very big factors and the only reason why they died is because both sides had dragons @@Hotline_101
@@Marfy_ I mean, yeah, that is true, although several dragons get taken out by a mob of angry smallfolk with basically normal weapons and the advantage of numbers. I’d chalk this one up to Tywin meaning that the dragons didn’t really win the war, they were all dead before the end of it (barring like 2-3). In comparison, Aegon was able to use his dragons to great effect to conquer Westeros in no small part because he had dragons and nobody else on the continent did. When your superweapon is acquired by your enemy, it loses its superweapon-ey-ness. That said, Tywin’s logic is a bit weird since this isn’t a dance with dragons type thing, the Lannisters have no dragons, nobody does, save Daenerys, who can waltz in and burn everyone alive with her dragons, a bit strange that the normally quite thoughtful Tywin would underestimate this risk.
That last part is exactly the point, even if during the dance the dragons didnt do all that much its because both sides had them, but in every other conflict in the 100 years before that which will be exactly like the one coming with dany the dragons changed everything@@Hotline_101
The ironborn did not just leave. They were all flayed. They thought giving theon to the northern forces would save their skin(hehe) but it did not work.
Wait really? I thought they got home cause of Robert proclaiming any Ironborn that surrenders may go home except for Theon which makes sense why they would give him up
@@jindormenthe Bolton were already conspiracies against robb before he gave that order. The fact they ransacked interfere is proof of that. Why would they go out of their way to follow that one command
@@autumnpeacock4156 but its also not recorded in the lines and lineages where all other early baby deaths are (Queen Alysannes, Queen Rhaellas). They just fucking forgot to actually include it all the way
@@ScottyGem321In the books it is nothing more than an abortion before the rest of the court will find out. She never loved him there, from the first day of their wedding she slept with Jaime and thought maybe Robert would just be tolerable, when she found out he wasn't, she tried her best not to get pregnant by him again. On the other hand, in the series she did love him for a small period of time, but it is a plot hole that she gave birth and there is no record of her dead child.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Yara's rescue mission in season 4. She sails all the way from the Iron Islands to the Dreadfort (look at a map to see how stupid that is) in an attempt to save Theon from Ramsay. Ramsay also fights off the Ironborn while SHIRTLESS.
And instead of knocking Theon out and carrying him to the boat, they waste time arguing with him and just leave him there... rendering the trip, deaths, etc pointless.
When Tywin is talking to Joffrey in the Throne Room in S3, he tells Joffrey the last Dragon was as small as an apple and claims the experts say the dragons Dany has are no threat. Tywin probably genuinely believes the whole time the dragons are no threat.
"The ironborn just pack up and leave" Um, No they don't? They get killed by the boltons. They sold out theon for their safety and the boltons kill them anyway.
Meera recognizing mutineers as traitors to the Watch is no mistake. All northern highborn would know the vows of the Night’s Watch. A simple observation on how mutineers act -undisciplined, disorganized, harassing women- gives them away as breaking their oaths.
That's a problem in the books too I believe. The North in general is described as being so inhospital that it's practically impossible their armies are as strong as they are without being completely dependent on the South
@@origami83 Not true. In the description of the Battle of P.F. it is said that Saurons forces in the end gathered around farm houses and such to regroup. Just because it wasnt in the movies? Pfffff.
@@sonkebrodersen1130 i was referring to the movies yes. I know in the books its surrounded by farms and orchards and a big wall. But the movies show the surroundings of the city totally empty.
7:35 Roose Bolton explains to Walder Frey (after the Red Wedding) on that the Ironborn were offered amnesty if they handed over Theon. If they had a way to escape undetected, they probably would've just left Theon there. Instead of letting them go Ramsey just killed them anyway, though. He "has his own way of doing things".
@@DaviFernandes-kx6mz I don't see the problem..? Everyone thought the boys were dead after Theon pulled his stunt with the orphans on the farm, and Ramsey burned Winterfell (probably blaming it on the Ironborn). Nobody wants to live in a burned ruin.
@@localbearings3611 No. They're called Lords, Lord Varys, Lord Baelish etc, but Petyr Baelish is already a Lord, in fact most of them are. Ser is the title given to knights. When Jory Cassel speaks to Ser Hugh of the Vale in S1 on Ned's behalf he says "No ser, I am not a knight" paraphrasing, may not be the exact quote. But the concept of knighthood comes from the faith of the seven, Ned, Jory, and other Northmen who worship the old gods will not be knights.
@@MesaperProductions Cause Varys is basically just a honorary lord due to his seat at the council, which is a position historically almost exclusively held by lords. Basically they call him lord cause he is the master of whisperers.
@@lunaris7342 a fantasy show based on medieval aesthetics, culture, politics and so on. In such world with such mortality rate and perils, counting a stillborn or a shortly lived newborn as a child would be like counting every nut as a child today
Ygritte can also hold a warbow at full draw for a solid minute. It's common in media to depict bows, especially those who can pierce plate armor at range, as being easily drawn by dainty elves or women. But it actually took quite a lot of strenght to draw. You also cannot hold a draw for long. It's very very tiring and your aim will sway off target as your stamina drains.
She spent years training with a bow, so i wouldn’t be surprised, plus it’s a wildling made bow, not exactly to the standard of a bow made by a master of arms
@@tgiacin435 No matter how hard and how many years you trained, it's just not possible for a human being to hold a warbow (or huntbow) more than a few seconds, plus the bow would break. Masters archer could not, and nowadays it's possible only with modern bows made in metal.
Using some internet math, the Barrels are falling at 144.7mph. At those speeds the wood would shatter out causing wood shrapnel, wounding or killing anyone near them, so I'd say that was a styled version of what would happen.
In the books those barrels are filled with gravel and water which freeze into pretty nasty boulders. It's hard to make out on screen if the barrels are empty or the ice/gravel just shatters on impact.
@@m1dn1ght5un There seem to be rocks inside the barrels, that or the barrels themselves stir up rocks on the ground which is just a testament to their impact force.
Season 2 had some mistakes which were due to bad adaptation. First, in the books Melisandre had two actions with her "birth". First was underneath the city of Storm's end (if I remember) just to kill somebody. Then THIS was when Davos brought her by boat in the sewers. But it was ommited, so what was the point of bringing her to the sewers just to kill Renly in his camp? she could do it from any place (and in the city was the magick protection Of the walls so she needed to do her ritual unferneath the city). The second thing was whole the Theon's invasion to Winterfell. They totally erased the real plot twist with Ramsay Bolton pretending his serveant. The scene of his people betraying him and then the Ramsay's play with Theon makes no sense (but D&D needed to save the plot).
Season 4 had one big error - Yara Greyjoy with her people went by boats to Dreadford to release her brother Theon. But let's look on the Westeros map. There was not any chance to go by a river from Pyke to Dreadford. It was the beginning when D&D started fooling us with the geography (of course, not a single sign of such action in the books).
Seems to me the sun is rising on the wrong side, when they have reached the top of the wall (S3 E6). Puzzled that I haven't seen anyone mention it, I have had to rewatch that moment several times and it just doesn't make sense. The climb was during late night and they arrived in the morning - or did I get something wrong? When they look south, "down over" Westeros, the sunshine comes from the right, which equals west, and the opposite when they face north. That should make Daenerys hopeful...
7:34 You might have missed this, but it is later explained in S3E10 ("Mhysa"). See from around 16:35, Walder Frey and Roose Bolton talking after the Red Wedding. Roose says: "I sent my bastard, Ramsey, to root them out. Robb Stark offered amnesty for the iron-born if they gave us Theon. Ramsey delivered the terms. The iron-born turned on Theon, as we knew they would. They handed him over, trussed and hooded. But Ramsey... well... Ramsey has his own way of doing things." So they contacted the iron-born to turn Theon over. The iron-born thought they would be allowed to go home, that's why they turned on him. (Otherwise, it wouldn't have made much sense BTW: so if you missed this, it should have been added as a mistake.) But of course, Ramsey being Ramsey, he killed all the iron-born after they gave up the castle, and then kept Theon for himself to torture him, rather than handing him to Robb Stark.
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I believe you overlooked a significant inconsistency. It appears in both the first episode and the books. One of the Night's Watch brothers is executed by Ned Stark for desertion. However, his location at capture by Winterfell soldiers remains unexplained. Did he scale the Wall? Did he circumvent it and then travel by sea? Or did he somehow return to Castle Black only to desert again and head south? Regardless of his chosen route, the distance between the north side of the Wall and his capture location near Winterfell is likely hundreds of miles.
I'd suppose he went back to Castle Black, rode off in the night, then abandoned his horse. Not sure that checks out though, hehe. What did stand out to me, however, was how he is aprehended by riders from both sides. Did one group of knights ride ahead just to pincer-move this one exhausted guy? Moreover, he is made out to not see them until they are just entering the frame, which is hardly worth nagging about, but looks silly when you think about it. The reason I didn't bring that up is because I didn't want such a nitpicky point so early in the video :P
@@CultureVultureMedia1 I imagine how the scene could have been filmed when he arrives at Castle Black in his traumatized state, first being given medical treatment and food, then being questioned by Thorne and the other high-ups about the outcome of the mission and the whereabouts of his two brothers, then being relieved of his duties for the rest of the day, all the while still being so panicked that he plans to wait until dark to sneak out of the fortress because he wants to get as far south as possible. How do you sneak out of the fortress anyway? It's literally a fortress, with only one exit gate, which is probably guarded at all times? Another inconsistency? Well, if you really want to, you can find mistakes everywhere, but in House of the Dragon the silliness just piles up.
@@CultureVultureMedia1 I think he went back to Castle Black and then escaped (on foot), thus the Night's Watch sent out word and riders were sent after him. Benjen etc. seemed to know about him and his return. He probably got pretty far before being found since the Wall is not in sight, he looks messed up, and there were Stark riders rather than Umbers that got to him.
@@Funnysterste I agree, that would have been interesting to see. I suppose Jon kind of gives us a glimpse of what it looks like when he runs away, so might be too much to have two identical scenes like that. As for the fortress, if you're the one (out of the dwindling few) on guard duty, that would make it easy, however, Will was a ranger returning, so he wouldn't be on duty then. Unless, of course, he stayed a night or two to recover his strength... But, the show does make the point that the lads run off to Molestown all the time, so I don't find the escaping that unbelievable. How horseless Will makes it all the way past Winterfell is another story... ;)
@@Funnysterste As for House of the Dragon, when people ask me whether I'll be making Every Error videos for that, I don't even know where to begin. There's nothing right about the show, I'd feel silly...
As far as the S2E6 with Jon being left to kill Ygrid, I think it would have been an unspoken “here’s your chance to break your vows without anyone knowing” opportunity. You know…. R@pe….
When Daenerys sends her bloodriders in different directions, and one returns with the news that they are expected in Quarth, Jorah speaks of a Garden of Bones around the city that grows if the gates are not opened, implying that if they waste their last strength, , in order to get to Quart to meet the closed gate, they will all die, thereby not advising Dany to go there, but she insists. She talks about this advice of his.
Cersei later take to Robert about losing their firstborn son, while they’re eating lunch. It’s there she talked about how she used to love him, but now she felt nothing towards him soon after their son died.
I want to go back and watch the series so bad, but I know how it ends. This is exactly like so many franchises out today. I find more joy in these videos than those train wrecks.
Hello. You're wrong in some cases. Some examples. 1. Meera Reed is not a wildling; she is a noblewoman. Of course, she knows what the Night's Watch is, and she understands that rape is not a routine practice of the Night's Watch. 2. Regarding Daenerys and the former slaves, she told them that they must fight for their freedom. They will inevitably become slaves again if they do not defend it. The mindset of a slave is not something that goes away easily. 3. Hats, helmets, and other headgear are not necessary for the main heroes.
It’s crazy that season 1-4 the mistakes are almost 100% pretty small and inconsequential to the plot, but season 8 every mistake destroys the story the previous 7 seasons built.
I dunno if its a flaw but this has always bothered me...when the hound is taking Arya to Lysa Arryn and they get there, why don't the Knights of the Vale ever tell Arya that Sansa occupies the Eryie or Petyr that they happened to have come across Arya? Seemed like a minor plot contrivance to me😅. Maybe Sandor wouldn't want to offer her anymore since he wanted some ransom from Lysa and lysa was gone but then again....
This has always bothered me especially because Lysa’s son is still alive so the Vale is still loyal to the starks. Why wouldn’t they invite her in or tell anyone. They just let the hound take her away
Meera knew they werent with the Night's Watch anymore because she (and the audience) just watched one of them drag a woman away to SA her, and men of the Night's Watch taking vows of chasity is common knowledge in Westeros
Your point about the northern forces surrounding winterfell is wrong, Robb specifically gave Roose the order to let all the iron born go home as long as Theon was captured
To add to the Tywin/Arya scenes in Season 2. Are we to believe Tywin constantly caught Arya out on lies, found out she was a girl, found out she was highborn, found out she was from the North. And still didn't piece together the missing Stark daughter COULD be her? Tywin is a lot smarter than that. Also it wasn't in the books and D&D don't know how to write anything good, that isn't from George's material.
Arya making it that far alive was so unlikely that I think it makes sense Tywin wouldn't guess it. In everyone's mind at this point Arya is dead. There are tons of lesser house that no one cares about that are technically "highborn" that the mystery girl could be.
@Manlymoose1 Highborn Northern girl? How many Northerner houses went south? And to add upon that, that would be a good hostage to hold to use against one of the Northern house vassels to at the very least hinder the war.
The irony is the prophecy from Maggie said she would only have three kids Cersei: When will I wed the prince? Maggy: Never. You will wed the king. Cersei: I will be queen, though? Maggy: Aye. Queen you shall be... until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear. Cersei: Will the king and I have children? Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you. Also Cersei took delight in licking up Robert’s baby gravy, knowing she would never give birth to the man that screamed Lyanna Stark’s name on their wedding night
@tgiacin435 that's clearly meant to be a purposeful difference between the show and the books as Cersei has been written to be more sympathetic in the show
Cersei and Robert's first (only) son could be missing from the Lineage of Great Houses due to having not survived to his "name day" which I think is said/implied to be a child's first birthday rather than the actual day they were born?
Cersei mentioned that first boy she lost twice. Once to Cat and then later she says to Robert something like, “I felt something for you once, you know. Even after we lost our first boy…“ So the child was real in the show’s version, he wasn’t just a lie she told for sympathy. But that does make it worse that he was dropped. As said, Cat should have known of the very first Prince’s existence and he should have been in the book. And him having black hair would have made Ned’s realization that the other kids are blonde matters less. Also, Cersei later says to Majory in reference to Joffrey that, “you never love anything the way you love your first child.” So by season three, the writes had completely forgotten about this first son, now claiming Joffrey was first born.
In Books Cersei talked about intentionally poisoning any children that Robert put in her, so that they were born extremely sick or dead. Likewise in the books Joffrey is considered her firstborn. A stillborn's existence being erased from the "official" history seems like a likely scenario to me. To her, and the rest of the society, Joffrey is her first child.
Why is Tywin not married again and making more Lannister heirs and new alliances? He knows Jamie is a Kingsguard and he hates Tyrion. Also, why didn't he name Jaime something else? The line would have been Tytos > Tywin > ? Jaime ?
What about Tyrion slapping Joffrey without intervention from the Hound? Clegane is Joffrey's protector and should by all means react to violence against the prince.
Big one left out in Season 4: Mance's army of 100,000 decimated in about 60 seconds once Stannis's calvary of nowhere near that many arrive. Semi-big one: The Thenn not slamming Jon's head against that anvil a couple more times. That bald cannibal had that fight won. Yes, yes... I know Jon recovered from the full facial fracture and brain annihilating concussion in about 15 seconds, but still. Slam Jon's head in using the resources you have. Bonus: Dany imprisoning two innocent dragons (since Drogon ain't around) like an hour after seeing the charred remains of a child. Yep, she's definitely gonna kill many children later 😂
Tywin's comment isn't wrong. Dragons are a serious threat, but you need to send in an army to get the enemy to surrender. Unless the attacking forces plan is to destroy either all the harvests, the castles, or burn everybody. None of which would suit them if they intend to occupy the same lands and castles.
In season 1 when Robert talks about his first kill he says it was at battle of summer hall which is the battle that secured the storm land, he says it was a Tarly which doesn’t make sense because there from the reach. Also his first kill was at the taking of gulltown when Jon aryan secured the vale
This might be a huge nitpick but in the scene where Ned and Jaime fight in season 1, there are some aerial takes in which you can very clearly see multiple artificial light sources by the color of the light and the multiple shadows casted by the actors. It's so strange, everytime I watch the scene I can't unsee it XD
7:40 "The iron born decide to pack up and leave and do so successfully." Except all but Theon were skinned alive. S4E9 The barrels were full of nitro. 13:30 Why were they climbing to the only castle that was maned.
Well, there are People who have problems with Tywin and Arya's meeting they are addressing it as a mistake that if Tywin did made Arya as Cupbearer and showed that much interest he would have taken her with him or told someone to keep eye on her, I understand what they say but I still enjoyed thier interaction regardless and ithere are many reasons why Tywin didn't bring her either aa we see later on the seasons, his overconfidence grown as he decided ignore even the wise things Joffrey and others said while he felt powerless and decided to take everything for himself was the reason for his downfall.
00:47 I think he meant "We are not children. We can fight unlike children" 02:19 Showing your dragon like a stranger said is like showing an animal in the zoo. That would make Dany look weaker in power 07:45 The Iron Borns made a deal with Ramsay to hand over Theon in exchange for their lives. However, Ramsay later revealed he flayed the Iron Borns as well after they handed Theon over 11:22 Common sense, of course. Every Northener knows what a man of the night's watch dresses like. And they don't hit and rape women.
Cersei's story about her black-haired Baratheon son is actually meant to be a reference to the books, where there was a past Lord Baratheon with a Lannister wife who had a black-haired son who died early. But yeah, in a bigger scheme of things, it didn't make much sense.
The Halfhand bit is a bit misleading, it's actually made pretty explicit in the book that he left Jon to kill Ygritte knowing he'd let her escape. He gives a long speech later about how being a leader means knowing which task he can give to each of his men, and he gave Jon that task knowing what he would do. He did what he did so Jon would ingratiate himself to the wildlings and have Ygritte to vouch for him when he pretended to defect to them. I haven't watched the show in ages so I don't remember exactly how they adapted this, but I'm surprised you didn't mention it when you mentioned other things from the books.
Correct me if I’m wrong but as i rewatched the series I’ve noticed a few times the characters saying “yeah!” I find this strange. I’m unsure if GRRM ever wrote “yeah!” In ASOIAF
I don't remember where I read it, but I *had* read that in Westerosi culture, children mortality is so high that children who do not survive to their first name day are not counted in the official count of children. See, for example, the children of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne. They had 13 children in total, including 3 sons who died before their first nameday. Prince Aemon is referred to as the King's first son when in fact he is the second. Now look at fanart of Jaehaerys and his sons. The three infants are never included.
I've always thought it was strange that after the white walker's let Will escape in the first scene that he somehow ends up on the other side of the wall. I guess it's possible that he used the same hidden door that Sam and Gilly use a few seasons later but he just left the gate at Castle Black and the hidden entrance is at another abandon post along the Wall.
I never see anyone bring up the biggest plothole of them all. Ned figures out Joffrey is Jamie's child because he has blond hair and Robert doesn't... but Cersei has blonde hair... Cersei and Robert's children can still have blonde hair, there's no reason at all to think Joffrey wasn't Robert's.
generally yes, a blonde person and a dark haired person Can have blonde children, but I think the point of the genealogy research Ned goes through is to show how strong and dominant the Baratheon genes are, how literally every kid Baratheons have is dark haired Until Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen. It Is Technically Possible, but what's the chance to have three blonde children if everyone in the family line is dark haired....
@@spntageous5249 I suppose. But genetics are weird like that. Both of your parents could be brown haired and the child could be a red head because one of the parents' parents was red headed (genes can skip a generation). The people of Westeros might not privvy to this science yet, but from a realism standpoint Ned basically made a guess based on flawed logic but got the right answer anyways.
Cersei's first born is mentioned again later in season 1, it's lack of mentions comes from the fact that it happened over 10 years ago in the show and she has kids who's alive (believed to be from Rob) makes it less noteworthy for people to mention. Personally I also read the scene as Cersei playing it up to gain sympathy from Cat and to remove suspicion. For the text it also serves to round out Cersei as a character, build on the tragedy of Rob and Cersei, and the line "black haired beauty" starts the thought process of the barratheon childrens hair.
How do you define an error? A change from the books? There were more than you mentioned. Error as in characters behaving like idiots? That's basically what the entire plot of the show and books hinges on. What is an error? I don't get it.
Inconsistencies. Now, defining those isn't always straightforward, and sometimes there are gray areas, especially with regards to character choices and developments. That's how I see it :)
Ugh that line by Jaime "I haven't fought with a tourney blade since I was a child" or whatever ALWAYS jars me. So.... as one the supposedly best swordsman in the Seven kingdoms, you havent practiced at all in 20+ years? Only live corpses? Explains why they thought the Arya v Brienne sparring dumb scene in S7 (8?) made any sense I guess. In other news: so nice to see another of your fabulous videos 🎉
I think it means that he trains with real, sharp steel instead of dull practice swords. Which does make sense for his character. But it is worded weirdly.
The iron born were flayed by Ramsay Bolton offscreen after attempting to bargain their freedom for Theon. It's mentioned in an offhand comment sometime early season 3
In Season 1 ep 9 Sam tells John he read the ravens message to Aemon but then Aemon summons for him and starts talking to him and John Reacts like he's surprised Sam read the letter to him.
Oh ok i get it Arya and the "bloody hound" at the bloody gate got or is getting its own video, That makes sense because that Short almost hard to believe and extremely irritating scene needs that much attention
CERSEI & THE KING DOES TALK ABOUT THE DARK HAIRED BABY THAT DIED. IT'S WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IF THEY EVER LOVED EACH OTHER AFTER 17 YEARS OF BEING TOGETHER.
Did we all miss the fact that game of thrones is a show and not and actual real-life documentary? It’s almost like they made it for the fans to stick to it.
In the first clip, it wasnt a case of him not making sense. He was a member of house Royce, he was very arrogant and saw his brothers as his servants. He basically brushed off the words of what he saw as a lower person. Leading to his bitter death.
13:06 the barrels aren’t empty, they’re filled with water and stones the night before, so that now they freeze and shatter at the bottom spreading shrapnel
I'm pretty sure the Iron Born left winterfell because they were told by Ramsay that they'd be given safe passage. This is what Robb told Roose to tell Ramsay to tell them, "anyone but Theon." And Ramsay killed everyone anyway.
What about the deserter from Season 1 Episode 1 who escapes the White Walkers off-screen, only to somehow end up south of the wall without reporting to the Night's Watch?
The fact that this video is for 4 seasons and is shorter is amazing
5-8 is four seasons too. I liked seasons 5,6 and 7 at the time but I've tried watching the whole thing again and I cant get past season 5. When you know every single story thread goes absolutely nowhere it makes the boring scenes even more tedious. The whole tone of the show shifted and the writing fell off a cliff.
"Game of Thrones was cancelled after season 4." 🚫
@@NowhereMan7 Seasons 5 and 6 are still mostly good and include some of the best episodes of the series. Yes, some of the plotlines were bad or went nowhere, but not all.
@@MatthewTheWanderer I used to think that too till Irewatched years after season 8 ended.
Which of the over arcing stories reaches a natural conclusion?
"Mankind fights for power while ignoring an increasingly urgent and far greater threat. We know nothing about them but they make these strange symbols that must mean something.
A prince was promised. He is secretly a Targaryen."
None of that end sup mattering.
@@NowhereMan7 Those story arcs go nowhere, but those 2 don't matter anyway. They are and always were and always will be distractions from the main story. I always hated the White Walker subplot even in the first scene of Season 1 Episode 1. I couldn't care less about zombies or prophecies in this series.
@@MatthewTheWanderer that is what the show is about. It's a analogous to mankind and global warming on earth.
The long night, the threat beyond the wall, the long forgotten power/magic that are still in the world and the one who is prophesied to end the long night - an unlikely bastard of unknown great lineage.
Those are not subplots. They are the over arcing theme of the books and the show up until they just threw it all in the bin.
Subplots are introduced and finished within the series like Oberyns revenge on Gregor.
I would say one more mistake in season 1 was Robert's hunting party. A royal hunt would have hunting tents, banquet tables, and an entire garrison of soldiers to protect the king. It wouldn't be three guys trotting through the woods. I'm pretty sure George R.R. Martin or D&D even commented on it being their worst adapted scene.
King Viserys' hunt in HotD was way more faithful to what a royal hunt _would've_ been.
We can let it slide maybe because of budget but ye it is not very realistic
I think that's specifically why they did that episode in HotD, to make up for that pitiful excuse of a royal hunt in GoT.
That's less of a mistake and more a reflection of the fact the show literally just didn't have enough money to do that scene properly during season 1. You have to remember that Game of Thrones season 1 was made with significantly less money than the rest of the show, because it hadn't become a huge commercial success yet.
It's surprising how some scenes looks so cheap in Season 1, and that is the biggest victim.
@@ultrabigfellayou're right. It's crazy how cheap a lot of season 1 looks despite the fact that the season had a budget of around 50 million dollars. Talks about how expensive tv series are.
Cersei talks about their lost son to Robert later in Kings landing
I'm so annoyed that you're right x)
I could have lived with it, if it _had_ been a troll, but making it real was dumb...
@@OcarinaSapphr-Agreed, I initially thought the fact tht it isn't in any records IS the indication that Cersei is lying to Catelyn (messing with her but also planting the idea that all her kids are Robert's). Since it is real, I guess the lack of records is...to spare their feelings? Not as fun.
@@MycoCane
Which also makes little sense in the context: it's a *royal* child, however short-lived; King Charles I & Henrietta Maria had a son & daughter that died within a day of being born- all of Queen Anne's double-figure miscarriages, stillbirths, & short-lived children were noted, not just the ones that made it past infancy - even in the source material; Queen Rhaella's many short-lived & lost pregnancies were noted, not just the resultant children that survived -- unless it were an abomination (& sometimes, even when they are) - there _should_ be some record, because these *_aren't_* private people, & it isn't a private matter, however sad & personal it may be- it's a matter-of-state; Dumbarse & Dipsh^t didn't have a great understanding for the worldbuilding (& all the things that went into world-building, if the behind-the-scenes stuff that's come out, is anything to go by)- all they thought of was 'cool scene' & "these shots- these faces"...
Edit: word
@@OcarinaSapphr- The heir for a day
the only thing i really dont like is that tywin scene at the end, not only is he wrong in that dragons havent won a war in 300 years (its more like 170), he completely ignores the fact that there were no dragons to win wars, but when there were they constantly did
That’s odd though because dragons didn’t particularly win the dance of dragons, most died over the course of the war and it pretty much comes down to Aegon catching and killing Rhaenyra by burning her alive with his dragon Sunfyre, who proceeds to die of prior injuries a few months? later.
The four remaining dragons were either wild by nature or by necessity, and one that had been too young to fight in the war. Within only 25 years the last known dragon had died.
That is true but in the battles that they fought in they were very big factors and the only reason why they died is because both sides had dragons @@Hotline_101
@@Marfy_ I mean, yeah, that is true, although several dragons get taken out by a mob of angry smallfolk with basically normal weapons and the advantage of numbers.
I’d chalk this one up to Tywin meaning that the dragons didn’t really win the war, they were all dead before the end of it (barring like 2-3).
In comparison, Aegon was able to use his dragons to great effect to conquer Westeros in no small part because he had dragons and nobody else on the continent did. When your superweapon is acquired by your enemy, it loses its superweapon-ey-ness.
That said, Tywin’s logic is a bit weird since this isn’t a dance with dragons type thing, the Lannisters have no dragons, nobody does, save Daenerys, who can waltz in and burn everyone alive with her dragons, a bit strange that the normally quite thoughtful Tywin would underestimate this risk.
That last part is exactly the point, even if during the dance the dragons didnt do all that much its because both sides had them, but in every other conflict in the 100 years before that which will be exactly like the one coming with dany the dragons changed everything@@Hotline_101
Nope, the dragon dance was won by the north army, not by dragons that was his point the last war with dragons was won by an army
The ironborn did not just leave. They were all flayed. They thought giving theon to the northern forces would save their skin(hehe) but it did not work.
Wait really? I thought they got home cause of Robert proclaiming any Ironborn that surrenders may go home except for Theon which makes sense why they would give him up
But its Bolton so they were probably flayed now that you mention it
@@jindormenthe Bolton were already conspiracies against robb before he gave that order. The fact they ransacked interfere is proof of that. Why would they go out of their way to follow that one command
@@jindormen Roose explains it in 3x10, Ramsay didn't let them go.
He was being sarcastic.
Well Stannis does look like he ages 15 years in just a few seasons...
Book accurate!
Everyone says that Cersei’s son with Robert isn’t brought up again, but she does mention him during her show only conversation with Robert
Right!? Everyone claims she lied to get sympathy from Cat but the baby clearly existed if she talks about him with Robert.
The fortuneteller in season 5 kinda forgot about that baby.
@@autumnpeacock4156 but its also not recorded in the lines and lineages where all other early baby deaths are (Queen Alysannes, Queen Rhaellas). They just fucking forgot to actually include it all the way
@@ScottyGem321In the books it is nothing more than an abortion before the rest of the court will find out. She never loved him there, from the first day of their wedding she slept with Jaime and thought maybe Robert would just be tolerable, when she found out he wasn't, she tried her best not to get pregnant by him again.
On the other hand, in the series she did love him for a small period of time, but it is a plot hole that she gave birth and there is no record of her dead child.
@@JoseGuevara-b7v wow very satisfying answer
"We can't afford to lose a single man." Blew some extra air out my nose of that one. Funny.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Yara's rescue mission in season 4. She sails all the way from the Iron Islands to the Dreadfort (look at a map to see how stupid that is) in an attempt to save Theon from Ramsay. Ramsay also fights off the Ironborn while SHIRTLESS.
and they run away from dogs while having shields, swords and wearing armor for some reason. legit my most disliked scene in s1-4
And instead of knocking Theon out and carrying him to the boat, they waste time arguing with him and just leave him there... rendering the trip, deaths, etc pointless.
The very first red flag of Game of Thrones turning bad. An obvious display of Ramsay’s plot armor.
@@mack_taylor For me, the biggest blunder in the whole series.
Can't beieve I missed that.
When Tywin is talking to Joffrey in the Throne Room in S3, he tells Joffrey the last Dragon was as small as an apple and claims the experts say the dragons Dany has are no threat. Tywin probably genuinely believes the whole time the dragons are no threat.
Was it the dragon or its skull that was the size of an apple?
@@1031lpskull
"The ironborn just pack up and leave"
Um, No they don't? They get killed by the boltons. They sold out theon for their safety and the boltons kill them anyway.
Meera recognizing mutineers as traitors to the Watch is no mistake. All northern highborn would know the vows of the Night’s Watch. A simple observation on how mutineers act -undisciplined, disorganized, harassing women- gives them away as breaking their oaths.
winterfell (and most of the cities in the show) is not surrounded by farms, the land is completely barren, what is everyone eating?
Haha this is the same problem with Minas Tirith in Lord of the Rings, complete empty fields surrounding it.
Olenna mentions crops coming to Kings Landing from her area High Garden
That's a problem in the books too I believe. The North in general is described as being so inhospital that it's practically impossible their armies are as strong as they are without being completely dependent on the South
@@origami83 Not true. In the description of the Battle of P.F. it is said that Saurons forces in the end gathered around farm houses and such to regroup. Just because it wasnt in the movies? Pfffff.
@@sonkebrodersen1130 i was referring to the movies yes. I know in the books its surrounded by farms and orchards and a big wall. But the movies show the surroundings of the city totally empty.
The difference in length of this video vs a video over seasons 5-8 would be hilarious
We'd be old men by the time that video finished
You're quite right 👀
Season 5: 17;34
Season 6: 19;00
Season 7: 37;16
Season 8: 25;00
Abandoned Plot Lines: 35;19
He put less effort. He made far less filler.
Love this series, this is how cinemasins used to be, before it became a joke. Keep it up
I'm glad you liked it! :)
Babe, wake up, Culture Vulture posted another "Every Error in GoT" video
Capitalism, my friend. Plus there are enough errors for everyone!
7:35
Roose Bolton explains to Walder Frey (after the Red Wedding) on that the Ironborn were offered amnesty if they handed over Theon. If they had a way to escape undetected, they probably would've just left Theon there. Instead of letting them go Ramsey just killed them anyway, though. He "has his own way of doing things".
But still doesn't explain how the Stark boys just lefted there and there's no one in Winterfell
@@DaviFernandes-kx6mz I don't see the problem..? Everyone thought the boys were dead after Theon pulled his stunt with the orphans on the farm, and Ramsey burned Winterfell (probably blaming it on the Ironborn). Nobody wants to live in a burned ruin.
Exactly this!
In season 1, Ned is referred to as 'Ser' and it isnt acknowledged. Ned is not a Knight.
Arent all members of the small council automaticly called ser such as ser varys or ser baelish
@@localbearings3611 No. They're called Lords, Lord Varys, Lord Baelish etc, but Petyr Baelish is already a Lord, in fact most of them are. Ser is the title given to knights. When Jory Cassel speaks to Ser Hugh of the Vale in S1 on Ned's behalf he says "No ser, I am not a knight" paraphrasing, may not be the exact quote. But the concept of knighthood comes from the faith of the seven, Ned, Jory, and other Northmen who worship the old gods will not be knights.
@yigit-nh2vn I didn't say that he was. They're called lords though.
@yigit-nh2vn
"No one is required to call me Lord."
"And yet everybody does."
The interaction between Varys and Oberyn in that scene was awesome!
@@MesaperProductions Cause Varys is basically just a honorary lord due to his seat at the council, which is a position historically almost exclusively held by lords. Basically they call him lord cause he is the master of whisperers.
In medieval times it was common not to consider stillborns or short-lived newborns to be actual children because of high mortality rates
Meh, still kindve a prelude to the shenanigans D and D would get up to.
It wiuld still be known that she was pregnant. Also this arent actually Medival Times this is a Fantasy Show
@@lunaris7342 a fantasy show based on medieval aesthetics, culture, politics and so on. In such world with such mortality rate and perils, counting a stillborn or a shortly lived newborn as a child would be like counting every nut as a child today
Cersei talks to Robert too about losing their first son and he says he never loved her.
Ygritte can also hold a warbow at full draw for a solid minute.
It's common in media to depict bows, especially those who can pierce plate armor at range, as being easily drawn by dainty elves or women.
But it actually took quite a lot of strenght to draw. You also cannot hold a draw for long. It's very very tiring and your aim will sway off target as your stamina drains.
You know nothing of... the true strength of a strong independent woman
She spent years training with a bow, so i wouldn’t be surprised, plus it’s a wildling made bow, not exactly to the standard of a bow made by a master of arms
Irrelevant. No amount of training can allow you to hold any serious bow at full draw for more than a few seconds@@tgiacin435
also the battle of the blackwater. Davos instructs the archers to knock, draw, hold
@@tgiacin435 No matter how hard and how many years you trained, it's just not possible for a human being to hold a warbow (or huntbow) more than a few seconds, plus the bow would break. Masters archer could not, and nowadays it's possible only with modern bows made in metal.
The Ironborne were offered amnesty if they gave up Theon, but Ramsay killed them anyways.
that's not a mistake
That's just Ramsay being Ramsay
The Ironborn who took Winterfell with Theon didn't manage to leave, they were flayed alive by Ramsay Bolton
Using some internet math, the Barrels are falling at 144.7mph. At those speeds the wood would shatter out causing wood shrapnel, wounding or killing anyone near them, so I'd say that was a styled version of what would happen.
In the books those barrels are filled with gravel and water which freeze into pretty nasty boulders. It's hard to make out on screen if the barrels are empty or the ice/gravel just shatters on impact.
@@m1dn1ght5un There seem to be rocks inside the barrels, that or the barrels themselves stir up rocks on the ground which is just a testament to their impact force.
@@m1dn1ght5un Exactly. You could fill the barrels with pretty much anything and the contents would become dangerous projectiles on impact
Season 2 had some mistakes which were due to bad adaptation. First, in the books Melisandre had two actions with her "birth". First was underneath the city of Storm's end (if I remember) just to kill somebody. Then THIS was when Davos brought her by boat in the sewers. But it was ommited, so what was the point of bringing her to the sewers just to kill Renly in his camp? she could do it from any place (and in the city was the magick protection Of the walls so she needed to do her ritual unferneath the city). The second thing was whole the Theon's invasion to Winterfell. They totally erased the real plot twist with Ramsay Bolton pretending his serveant. The scene of his people betraying him and then the Ramsay's play with Theon makes no sense (but D&D needed to save the plot).
Season 4 had one big error - Yara Greyjoy with her people went by boats to Dreadford to release her brother Theon. But let's look on the Westeros map. There was not any chance to go by a river from Pyke to Dreadford. It was the beginning when D&D started fooling us with the geography (of course, not a single sign of such action in the books).
Oh yeah, excellent points!
@@rafachrzaszcz6997I would say the Tysha story was also a huge error. Jamie lied
@@tgiacin435 can you give me more details? I remember Tysha's story very close to the books.
@@rafachrzaszcz6997 there was one detail left out. Tywin told Jamie to lie to Tyrion, and tell him she was a prostitute he hired
Seems to me the sun is rising on the wrong side, when they have reached the top of the wall (S3 E6). Puzzled that I haven't seen anyone mention it, I have had to rewatch that moment several times and it just doesn't make sense. The climb was during late night and they arrived in the morning - or did I get something wrong? When they look south, "down over" Westeros, the sunshine comes from the right, which equals west, and the opposite when they face north.
That should make Daenerys hopeful...
Hahaha, damn good spot!
The fact that this video sums up 4 seasons and isnt even 15 minutes long shows how peak prime GoT was
7:34 You might have missed this, but it is later explained in S3E10 ("Mhysa"). See from around 16:35, Walder Frey and Roose Bolton talking after the Red Wedding. Roose says: "I sent my bastard, Ramsey, to root them out. Robb Stark offered amnesty for the iron-born if they gave us Theon. Ramsey delivered the terms. The iron-born turned on Theon, as we knew they would. They handed him over, trussed and hooded. But Ramsey... well... Ramsey has his own way of doing things."
So they contacted the iron-born to turn Theon over. The iron-born thought they would be allowed to go home, that's why they turned on him. (Otherwise, it wouldn't have made much sense BTW: so if you missed this, it should have been added as a mistake.) But of course, Ramsey being Ramsey, he killed all the iron-born after they gave up the castle, and then kept Theon for himself to torture him, rather than handing him to Robb Stark.
Best 4 years of tv.
Genuinly, 2010-2016 was a golden age for television
ramsay mentioned he killed the iron born at winterfel. it was implied he promised to let them go for theon, but then slaughtered them.
The “steel on steel” sound is Lord Of Bones accidentally nicking Jon’s HUGE STEEL BALLS!
First 4 seasons: less than 15 min
meanwhile: hi guys, in this 50 min video ill talk about season 7 episode 1 :"D, stay tuned for the remaining seasons, i have 1 Tb of footage to edit including the ending
I believe you overlooked a significant inconsistency. It appears in both the first episode and the books. One of the Night's Watch brothers is executed by Ned Stark for desertion. However, his location at capture by Winterfell soldiers remains unexplained. Did he scale the Wall? Did he circumvent it and then travel by sea? Or did he somehow return to Castle Black only to desert again and head south? Regardless of his chosen route, the distance between the north side of the Wall and his capture location near Winterfell is likely hundreds of miles.
I'd suppose he went back to Castle Black, rode off in the night, then abandoned his horse. Not sure that checks out though, hehe.
What did stand out to me, however, was how he is aprehended by riders from both sides. Did one group of knights ride ahead just to pincer-move this one exhausted guy?
Moreover, he is made out to not see them until they are just entering the frame, which is hardly worth nagging about, but looks silly when you think about it.
The reason I didn't bring that up is because I didn't want such a nitpicky point so early in the video :P
@@CultureVultureMedia1 I imagine how the scene could have been filmed when he arrives at Castle Black in his traumatized state, first being given medical treatment and food, then being questioned by Thorne and the other high-ups about the outcome of the mission and the whereabouts of his two brothers, then being relieved of his duties for the rest of the day, all the while still being so panicked that he plans to wait until dark to sneak out of the fortress because he wants to get as far south as possible.
How do you sneak out of the fortress anyway? It's literally a fortress, with only one exit gate, which is probably guarded at all times? Another inconsistency?
Well, if you really want to, you can find mistakes everywhere, but in House of the Dragon the silliness just piles up.
@@CultureVultureMedia1 I think he went back to Castle Black and then escaped (on foot), thus the Night's Watch sent out word and riders were sent after him. Benjen etc. seemed to know about him and his return.
He probably got pretty far before being found since the Wall is not in sight, he looks messed up, and there were Stark riders rather than Umbers that got to him.
@@Funnysterste I agree, that would have been interesting to see.
I suppose Jon kind of gives us a glimpse of what it looks like when he runs away, so might be too much to have two identical scenes like that.
As for the fortress, if you're the one (out of the dwindling few) on guard duty, that would make it easy, however, Will was a ranger returning, so he wouldn't be on duty then.
Unless, of course, he stayed a night or two to recover his strength...
But, the show does make the point that the lads run off to Molestown all the time, so I don't find the escaping that unbelievable. How horseless Will makes it all the way past Winterfell is another story... ;)
@@Funnysterste As for House of the Dragon, when people ask me whether I'll be making Every Error videos for that, I don't even know where to begin. There's nothing right about the show, I'd feel silly...
As far as the S2E6 with Jon being left to kill Ygrid, I think it would have been an unspoken “here’s your chance to break your vows without anyone knowing” opportunity. You know…. R@pe….
When Daenerys sends her bloodriders in different directions, and one returns with the news that they are expected in Quarth, Jorah speaks of a Garden of Bones around the city that grows if the gates are not opened, implying that if they waste their last strength, , in order to get to Quart to meet the closed gate, they will all die, thereby not advising Dany to go there, but she insists. She talks about this advice of his.
Errors in seasons 1 to 4 : 14 minutes
Errors in season 8 : 14 hours
Cersei later take to Robert about losing their firstborn son, while they’re eating lunch. It’s there she talked about how she used to love him, but now she felt nothing towards him soon after their son died.
Just like the 7 kingdoms, Tywin Lannister kept the show afloat.
I want to go back and watch the series so bad, but I know how it ends. This is exactly like so many franchises out today. I find more joy in these videos than those train wrecks.
I believe quorin halfhand did state that they knew jon wouldn't kill her. He intended for jon to go over to wildlings...
In the book 🙂
Hello.
You're wrong in some cases.
Some examples.
1. Meera Reed is not a wildling; she is a noblewoman. Of course, she knows what the Night's Watch is, and she understands that rape is not a routine practice of the Night's Watch.
2. Regarding Daenerys and the former slaves, she told them that they must fight for their freedom. They will inevitably become slaves again if they do not defend it. The mindset of a slave is not something that goes away easily.
3. Hats, helmets, and other headgear are not necessary for the main heroes.
Your number three is just a precedent set by the show and the underlying plot armor for the characters. Other than that I agree
It’s crazy that season 1-4 the mistakes are almost 100% pretty small and inconsequential to the plot, but season 8 every mistake destroys the story the previous 7 seasons built.
I dunno if its a flaw but this has always bothered me...when the hound is taking Arya to Lysa Arryn and they get there, why don't the Knights of the Vale ever tell Arya that Sansa occupies the Eryie or Petyr that they happened to have come across Arya? Seemed like a minor plot contrivance to me😅. Maybe Sandor wouldn't want to offer her anymore since he wanted some ransom from Lysa and lysa was gone but then again....
Good point!
Because they told the knights it was petyrs niece. It wouldnt be good if the whole realm knew wherr sansa was
This has always bothered me especially because Lysa’s son is still alive so the Vale is still loyal to the starks. Why wouldn’t they invite her in or tell anyone. They just let the hound take her away
@@yourbabytee I'm pretty sure the Hound didn't tell anyone that it was Arya he had.
Meera knew they werent with the Night's Watch anymore because she (and the audience) just watched one of them drag a woman away to SA her, and men of the Night's Watch taking vows of chasity is common knowledge in Westeros
Your point about the northern forces surrounding winterfell is wrong, Robb specifically gave Roose the order to let all the iron born go home as long as Theon was captured
Every error in seasons 1-4 : 14 minutes
Every error in season 7 : 35 minutes
To add to the Tywin/Arya scenes in Season 2. Are we to believe Tywin constantly caught Arya out on lies, found out she was a girl, found out she was highborn, found out she was from the North. And still didn't piece together the missing Stark daughter COULD be her? Tywin is a lot smarter than that. Also it wasn't in the books and D&D don't know how to write anything good, that isn't from George's material.
Arya making it that far alive was so unlikely that I think it makes sense Tywin wouldn't guess it. In everyone's mind at this point Arya is dead. There are tons of lesser house that no one cares about that are technically "highborn" that the mystery girl could be.
@Manlymoose1 Highborn Northern girl? How many Northerner houses went south? And to add upon that, that would be a good hostage to hold to use against one of the Northern house vassels to at the very least hinder the war.
It’s a bad sign when the first thing on this list is wrong. Cersi brings up the baby when speaking to Robert. When she asked if he ever loved her.
The irony is the prophecy from Maggie said she would only have three kids
Cersei: When will I wed the prince?
Maggy: Never. You will wed the king.
Cersei: I will be queen, though?
Maggy: Aye. Queen you shall be... until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear.
Cersei: Will the king and I have children?
Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.
Also Cersei took delight in licking up Robert’s baby gravy, knowing she would never give birth to the man that screamed Lyanna Stark’s name on their wedding night
@tgiacin435 that's clearly meant to be a purposeful difference between the show and the books as Cersei has been written to be more sympathetic in the show
@@jamesrt5352 Ik, but I also liked how Cersei was evil, but understandable
in season 4 melisandre wasn’t wearing her necklace in the bathtub and she was still young
The Jaime sparring sword gripe is so nitpicked and unserious 😂😂😂
Cersei and Robert's first (only) son could be missing from the Lineage of Great Houses due to having not survived to his "name day" which I think is said/implied to be a child's first birthday rather than the actual day they were born?
A video about S5-8 mistakes: A fine diner, my lord
A video about S1-4 mistakes: I will not have it, do you hear me boy? I will not have it!
Error in Seasons 12345678: No winter hats.
Cersei mentioned that first boy she lost twice. Once to Cat and then later she says to Robert something like, “I felt something for you once, you know. Even after we lost our first boy…“
So the child was real in the show’s version, he wasn’t just a lie she told for sympathy. But that does make it worse that he was dropped. As said, Cat should have known of the very first Prince’s existence and he should have been in the book. And him having black hair would have made Ned’s realization that the other kids are blonde matters less.
Also, Cersei later says to Majory in reference to Joffrey that, “you never love anything the way you love your first child.”
So by season three, the writes had completely forgotten about this first son, now claiming Joffrey was first born.
In Books Cersei talked about intentionally poisoning any children that Robert put in her, so that they were born extremely sick or dead. Likewise in the books Joffrey is considered her firstborn. A stillborn's existence being erased from the "official" history seems like a likely scenario to me. To her, and the rest of the society, Joffrey is her first child.
Says a lot when the first four seasons have fewer erros in them than one of the newer seasons alone.
Errors in Season 1-4: 14 minute video
Errors in Season 7: 37 minute video
Why is Tywin not married again and making more Lannister heirs and new alliances? He knows Jamie is a Kingsguard and he hates Tyrion. Also, why didn't he name Jaime something else? The line would have been Tytos > Tywin > ? Jaime ?
That's a pretty good point. Could it be he a case of "what would the neighbours think?" if he gave up on his first three kids?
@@CultureVultureMedia1 Well, a Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the Sheep...
@@AnthonyAvon Haha, well said.
What about Tyrion slapping Joffrey without intervention from the Hound? Clegane is Joffrey's protector and should by all means react to violence against the prince.
Big one left out in Season 4: Mance's army of 100,000 decimated in about 60 seconds once Stannis's calvary of nowhere near that many arrive.
Semi-big one: The Thenn not slamming Jon's head against that anvil a couple more times. That bald cannibal had that fight won. Yes, yes... I know Jon recovered from the full facial fracture and brain annihilating concussion in about 15 seconds, but still. Slam Jon's head in using the resources you have.
Bonus: Dany imprisoning two innocent dragons (since Drogon ain't around) like an hour after seeing the charred remains of a child. Yep, she's definitely gonna kill many children later 😂
Wildlings had no discipline and no gear, just pelts and wooden arms. Most saw knight on horses and decided to run.
Why doesnt this have more views bruh
cuz it was one day old lol
Tywin's comment isn't wrong. Dragons are a serious threat, but you need to send in an army to get the enemy to surrender. Unless the attacking forces plan is to destroy either all the harvests, the castles, or burn everybody. None of which would suit them if they intend to occupy the same lands and castles.
In season 1 when Robert talks about his first kill he says it was at battle of summer hall which is the battle that secured the storm land, he says it was a Tarly which doesn’t make sense because there from the reach. Also his first kill was at the taking of gulltown when Jon aryan secured the vale
This might be a huge nitpick but in the scene where Ned and Jaime fight in season 1, there are some aerial takes in which you can very clearly see multiple artificial light sources by the color of the light and the multiple shadows casted by the actors. It's so strange, everytime I watch the scene I can't unsee it XD
Don't watch it breh
7:40 "The iron born decide to pack up and leave and do so successfully." Except all but Theon were skinned alive.
S4E9 The barrels were full of nitro.
13:30 Why were they climbing to the only castle that was maned.
you know what, i appreciate the immensely pedantic note that the sword cutting rope sounded like steel on steel
If Carl Fookin Tanner hasn't lost a fight since he was 9 years old, how did he end up captured and sent to the wall 🤔
He got caught winning a fight (murder) and didn't start a fight with the entire city watch lol
Every Error GoT S1-4:
[Vincent Vega looking for the intercom meme]
Well, there are People who have problems with Tywin and Arya's meeting they are addressing it as a mistake that if Tywin did made Arya as Cupbearer and showed that much interest he would have taken her with him or told someone to keep
eye on her, I understand what they say but I still enjoyed thier interaction regardless and ithere are many reasons why Tywin didn't bring her either aa we see later on the seasons, his overconfidence grown as he decided ignore even the wise things Joffrey and others said while he felt powerless and decided to take everything for himself was the reason for his downfall.
00:47 I think he meant "We are not children. We can fight unlike children"
02:19 Showing your dragon like a stranger said is like showing an animal in the zoo. That would make Dany look weaker in power
07:45 The Iron Borns made a deal with Ramsay to hand over Theon in exchange for their lives. However, Ramsay later revealed he flayed the Iron Borns as well after they handed Theon over
11:22 Common sense, of course. Every Northener knows what a man of the night's watch dresses like. And they don't hit and rape women.
The timing of that slap!!! 😂
You missed that the books also mention that Stanis commands from the rear. He's the opposite of his brother Bobby B
Cersei's story about her black-haired Baratheon son is actually meant to be a reference to the books, where there was a past Lord Baratheon with a Lannister wife who had a black-haired son who died early.
But yeah, in a bigger scheme of things, it didn't make much sense.
The Halfhand bit is a bit misleading, it's actually made pretty explicit in the book that he left Jon to kill Ygritte knowing he'd let her escape. He gives a long speech later about how being a leader means knowing which task he can give to each of his men, and he gave Jon that task knowing what he would do. He did what he did so Jon would ingratiate himself to the wildlings and have Ygritte to vouch for him when he pretended to defect to them. I haven't watched the show in ages so I don't remember exactly how they adapted this, but I'm surprised you didn't mention it when you mentioned other things from the books.
The barrels were full of ice, but still shouldn't have acted like grenades.
Just wanted to point out they weren't empty.
Great video.
Nicely done as usual. Now we need every error in hod !!
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Correct me if I’m wrong but as i rewatched the series I’ve noticed a few times the characters saying “yeah!” I find this strange. I’m unsure if GRRM ever wrote “yeah!” In ASOIAF
Aye!
7:40 "The iron born decide to pack up and leave and do so successfully." Except all but Theon were skinned alive.
I'd love a pinned comment summarizing all the different extra errors, big and small, that the comments are adding.
I don't remember where I read it, but I *had* read that in Westerosi culture, children mortality is so high that children who do not survive to their first name day are not counted in the official count of children.
See, for example, the children of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne. They had 13 children in total, including 3 sons who died before their first nameday. Prince Aemon is referred to as the King's first son when in fact he is the second.
Now look at fanart of Jaehaerys and his sons. The three infants are never included.
I've always thought it was strange that after the white walker's let Will escape in the first scene that he somehow ends up on the other side of the wall. I guess it's possible that he used the same hidden door that Sam and Gilly use a few seasons later but he just left the gate at Castle Black and the hidden entrance is at another abandon post along the Wall.
9:21 my guy really used brawl stars teleport sound
I never see anyone bring up the biggest plothole of them all. Ned figures out Joffrey is Jamie's child because he has blond hair and Robert doesn't... but Cersei has blonde hair... Cersei and Robert's children can still have blonde hair, there's no reason at all to think Joffrey wasn't Robert's.
generally yes, a blonde person and a dark haired person Can have blonde children, but I think the point of the genealogy research Ned goes through is to show how strong and dominant the Baratheon genes are, how literally every kid Baratheons have is dark haired Until Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen. It Is Technically Possible, but what's the chance to have three blonde children if everyone in the family line is dark haired....
@@spntageous5249 I suppose. But genetics are weird like that. Both of your parents could be brown haired and the child could be a red head because one of the parents' parents was red headed (genes can skip a generation). The people of Westeros might not privvy to this science yet, but from a realism standpoint Ned basically made a guess based on flawed logic but got the right answer anyways.
@@Sursion"the seed is strong" - jon arryn
Cersei's first born is mentioned again later in season 1, it's lack of mentions comes from the fact that it happened over 10 years ago in the show and she has kids who's alive (believed to be from Rob) makes it less noteworthy for people to mention. Personally I also read the scene as Cersei playing it up to gain sympathy from Cat and to remove suspicion.
For the text it also serves to round out Cersei as a character, build on the tragedy of Rob and Cersei, and the line "black haired beauty" starts the thought process of the barratheon childrens hair.
5:51 but what a legendary take down though
How do you define an error? A change from the books? There were more than you mentioned.
Error as in characters behaving like idiots? That's basically what the entire plot of the show and books hinges on.
What is an error? I don't get it.
Inconsistencies. Now, defining those isn't always straightforward, and sometimes there are gray areas, especially with regards to character choices and developments. That's how I see it :)
Ugh that line by Jaime "I haven't fought with a tourney blade since I was a child" or whatever ALWAYS jars me.
So.... as one the supposedly best swordsman in the Seven kingdoms, you havent practiced at all in 20+ years? Only live corpses?
Explains why they thought the Arya v Brienne sparring dumb scene in S7 (8?) made any sense I guess.
In other news: so nice to see another of your fabulous videos 🎉
Haha, yeah, after 2016 every main character is an untouchable superhero.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you liked it :)
@@CultureVultureMedia1 😁 always a pleasure to see you pop up in my notifications! Under S8 rules, I name you Grand Maester and Prince of Dorne.
@@a.p.2019 You honor me, my lord
I think it means that he trains with real, sharp steel instead of dull practice swords. Which does make sense for his character. But it is worded weirdly.
The iron born were flayed by Ramsay Bolton offscreen after attempting to bargain their freedom for Theon. It's mentioned in an offhand comment sometime early season 3
In Season 1 ep 9 Sam tells John he read the ravens message to Aemon but then Aemon summons for him and starts talking to him and John Reacts like he's surprised Sam read the letter to him.
The actor who played the Lannister boy who was killed by Rickard Karstark in S3 E5 was the same actor playing King Tommen Baratheon
So silly. And while we're at it, why did they cast 3 different people to play The Mountain?
Oh ok i get it Arya and the "bloody hound" at the bloody gate got or is getting its own video, That makes sense because that Short almost hard to believe and extremely irritating scene needs that much attention
CERSEI & THE KING DOES TALK ABOUT THE DARK HAIRED BABY THAT DIED. IT'S WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IF THEY EVER LOVED EACH OTHER AFTER 17 YEARS OF BEING TOGETHER.
Did we all miss the fact that game of thrones is a show and not and actual real-life documentary? It’s almost like they made it for the fans to stick to it.
Video about Errors between season 1 and 4 : 15 minutes
Shortest video about season 8: 2 hrs
In the first clip, it wasnt a case of him not making sense.
He was a member of house Royce, he was very arrogant and saw his brothers as his servants. He basically brushed off the words of what he saw as a lower person.
Leading to his bitter death.
13:06 the barrels aren’t empty, they’re filled with water and stones the night before, so that now they freeze and shatter at the bottom spreading shrapnel
In S2E10, the ironborn don't leave successfully. It is later revealed in S3E10 that Ramsay went back on his word and flayed them all alive.
11:13 my bromo the video you use answers the question you ask pretty succinctly.
I'm pretty sure the Iron Born left winterfell because they were told by Ramsay that they'd be given safe passage. This is what Robb told Roose to tell Ramsay to tell them, "anyone but Theon."
And Ramsay killed everyone anyway.
Meanwhile the same video for seasons 5-8 should be around 40 hours long.
What about the deserter from Season 1 Episode 1 who escapes the White Walkers off-screen, only to somehow end up south of the wall without reporting to the Night's Watch?