RUclips algorithm has spiritual influence underneath. One of God and other for satan as well. So if you found this video while you needed it, know It is God almighty who did it through the algorithm. He does the same with our thoughts as He puts images and his will in our mind
In 2011, Frankl published a follow up book: "Man's Search for _Ultimate_ Meaning" (emphasis on 'Ultimate')-- Presumably, Frankl's ideas have evolved over time and his newer perspectives are presented in this book.
@@TWMoore I have read the "utimate meaning" book. It was disappointing. The ideas in the book represent a consistent whole, but that whole is a historical whole. His current views had moved on since then (so the book no longer represented his current views) So I wonder if he was publishing for the revenue, rather than because he wanted to present the conceptual progress he'd made
@@starlord7526 The 2nd book, "ultimate meaning" was published posthumously, by his family. They basically cashed-in an unpublished manuscript. But the second book didn't represent his views, which is why he didn't publish it. When you dig into the details, it turns out that the (first) book isn't as advertised. For example, the book was written before he was sent to the concentration camp. So the suggestion that the book resulted from his 'near death' experiences in a concentration camp is marketing __bullshine__. After writing the (2nd book) book, his views changed radically. Sadly, there isn't a publication where Frankl specified his eventual position. Shame.
@@bjt8764 oh really, I didn't know that. For all this time, I thought the first book was basically his experience in the camp and how he dealt with all that. I haven't completely finished the first book, but as soon as I complete it, I will read "ultimate meaning". Thanks mate for the info
From reading his book 'Man's search for Meaning' I came to find that the meaning of life is different for everyone, and is catagorised by the following three structures: 1. Occupation, job, studies, day to day activities that drive and consume your time and give you purpose 2. Human connections, to love and be loved, to find self betterment in others as they do you 3. How to deal with suffering, do you learn from it? Let it consume you? Or do you find the true meaning from the suffering By focusing on these concepts in your everyday life, you will learn what YOUR meaning of life is.
Sunday Neurosis is such a fascinating idea to me. Do people work primarily for money? Or is it really because deep down they're terrified of the freedom that would lead them to confront existential thoughts? Insane Bonus Rant: Meaning and purpose? The purpose of the shovel is to help people dig holes. It has that purpose because someone else decided that for it. That's why it was made. It's a tool. My "purpose"? Am I a man or a tool? No thanks, I'm good. I'm just here.
@DonBraidwood My perspective has changed a lot since when I wrote this comment. Back then, I was frustrated with living a meaningless life and sick of feeling like a tool for work rather than a human being. What I think I meant is that unlike tools, which are assigned meaning at their conception by their makers, humans have no "purpose" for which they exist, and as such shouldn't be bound to meaning as other things are and needn't bother striving for it. I've come to disagree with this view, but not in favour of meaning. I see "meaning" as something humans (or perhaps some conscious minds) construct to avoid thinking about the directionless nature of reality. I think our species evolved alongside it for so long, that we are culturally and biologically dependant on it. Put another way, someone without meaning may just sit on their hands all day and do nothing. "Losing the will to live" sort of thing. Without "something" to work towards, or something to believe in, the organism stops participating in life and the processes needed to continue its own existence. This is my best guess anyways, from personal experience. Back to the shovel. The difference now is that I dont see any difference between me and the shovel. I can't "give" the shovel any meaning, I can only imagine I do. Just like I can't give myself any meaning, I can only imagine it. Meaning is not real, it's just a way we can fool ourselves into believing we have control, stability, and understanding --order-- in an existence that would nuke us from space with an asteroid without blinking an eye, so went the dinosaurs. My "goal" is see how enjoyable a life without meaning can be. I dont expect it to be great, but it's what I'm interested in. I'm a bit of a twisted person and I worry my views will take away the meaning from other people's lives, so I usually shutup about it, but it's good to chat about it with other people who're struggling with existential questions. Hope my explanations helped, best of luck Don.
@@magikarpslapper759thank you. Today I bought a book called a man’s search for meaning & he stated he survived a concentrate by having meaning in his life. His then created logo therapy, that linked me to existentialism. I’m 58 & at this existentialism time in my life. I am a born again Christian but I don’t know if I should have meaning & purpose & if I do what is it. Your statement thought indicated that you meaning is meaningless politely want to state to you, if you feel you don’t want meaning why you posting comments? Your thoughts?
@DonBraidwood I've been meaning to read it, I'm interested in how Victor sees the world. In my opinion, no one knows what is "right" or what is "true". I think neither of those things exist. I think it is up to every man to decide what he likes in life, and then to decide what to do from there. I like stories, and being amongst nature, computers, good food, fishing, philosophy, and most of all I like the warm feeling of being kind to others, and knowing we'll look after eachother. I used to be very against religion, but I've mellowed out somewhat and I've come to appreciate the variety of beliefs in this world. From it has sprung marvelous architecture, literature, stories, and even communities of all different religions and beliefs. It's quite refreshing to know there's so much human ingenuity out there, like a library of human passion. My answer for you would be to trust in yourself. If your religion feels right for you, walk the path and walk it well. I've walked Buddhism, and even though I left unconvinced, I still took some great lessons from it. In a world with no right answers, be who you want to be. Ah, and as for the last question. I comment because I'm selfish. I like to be understood and heard by others, and I like it even more when I can help people to overcome the mental rut they might be stuck in. I'm someone who wakes up sad every day for no reason, and I understand what it's like to not enjoy life. So it's an emotional thing, I get catharsis in my own life when I can support others who're going through what I go through. Life is rough, but we were born for tough times. Thanks for reading, Don. Brandon
Here's an interesting article you might find helpful www.researchgate.net/publication/320685752_Logotherapy_and_the_Empirical_Research_of_Literature. Thanks for commenting!
As a psychlogy student i have heard way to little about this interesting topic. Thanks for this great summary! Btw what is the song called in this video? :)
But he forgot that Freud already found the meaning - "to die" as in when one can face their own mortality, quite potentially it is the dawning to the end of their neuroses.
please please please please please, Jesus. I cry out to you with all my soul... bring into my life my twin-flame, and a tribe of real friends. I cannot bear to continue to be alone...
What do you think about this quote from Jung? “ “No matter how isolated you are and how lonely you feel, if you do your work truly and conscientiously, unknown friends will come and seek you.”
3/15/23 - insightfulness I gained ... One's demon-hellish-existence ... One's desire-power-meaning ... All that existential crisis-vaccum we try to fill ... Desire without meaning; power without meaning; meaning with out meaning ... Ask Question Seek A mind thought-provoke analysis Til my last breath I will always seek. Ty
Where did he get paper to write a book 9 days after "liberation?" He starts his book with an admission, "THIS BOOK DOES NOT claim to be an account of facts and events...."
“This book does not claim to be an account of facts and events but of *personal experiences*, experiences which millions of prisoners have suffered time and again. It is the inside story of a concentration camp, told by one of its survivors.”
I just randomly seen this video on my recommendations. It’s great! I’m surprised there’s less than 1k viewers tho
Same here bro. The YT algorithm works in mysterious ways
RUclips algorithm has spiritual influence underneath. One of God and other for satan as well. So if you found this video while you needed it, know It is God almighty who did it through the algorithm. He does the same with our thoughts as He puts images and his will in our mind
They don't want people to be smart
In 2011, Frankl published a follow up book: "Man's Search for _Ultimate_ Meaning" (emphasis on 'Ultimate')-- Presumably, Frankl's ideas have evolved over time and his newer perspectives are presented in this book.
Thanks for adding this!
@@TWMoore I have read the "utimate meaning" book. It was disappointing. The ideas in the book represent a consistent whole, but that whole is a historical whole. His current views had moved on since then (so the book no longer represented his current views) So I wonder if he was publishing for the revenue, rather than because he wanted to present the conceptual progress he'd made
dude died in 1997, how could he publish the book in 2011?
@@starlord7526 The 2nd book, "ultimate meaning" was published posthumously, by his family. They basically cashed-in an unpublished manuscript. But the second book didn't represent his views, which is why he didn't publish it. When you dig into the details, it turns out that the (first) book isn't as advertised. For example, the book was written before he was sent to the concentration camp. So the suggestion that the book resulted from his 'near death' experiences in a concentration camp is marketing __bullshine__. After writing the (2nd book) book, his views changed radically. Sadly, there isn't a publication where Frankl specified his eventual position. Shame.
@@bjt8764 oh really, I didn't know that. For all this time, I thought the first book was basically his experience in the camp and how he dealt with all that. I haven't completely finished the first book, but as soon as I complete it, I will read "ultimate meaning". Thanks mate for the info
Nice video, thank the algorithm for showing me this video
Well summarized & presented! 👍
Thank you!
Nice job! Will definitely return for more. Great insights into a very timely book and subject.
Reading this book at the moment. Video very enlightening ❤
It’s a moving piece! Thanks for your comment!
Finally! This is important and very helpful. Tfs👍
Thanks for your comment!
Great narration, great choice of music and great explanation. Subscribed!
Welcome aboard!
From reading his book 'Man's search for Meaning' I came to find that the meaning of life is different for everyone, and is catagorised by the following three structures:
1. Occupation, job, studies, day to day activities that drive and consume your time and give you purpose
2. Human connections, to love and be loved, to find self betterment in others as they do you
3. How to deal with suffering, do you learn from it? Let it consume you? Or do you find the true meaning from the suffering
By focusing on these concepts in your everyday life, you will learn what YOUR meaning of life is.
Thanks for this comment! Some existentialists wells say that meaning isn’t necessary. But Frankl disagrees!
Thanks for the video. Just read the book Man’s Search for Meaning. It was good to have the ideas consolidated by your explanation.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for chiming in!
great summary!
Can the algorythm be reading my mind too? This was exactly what was on my mind!
So glad it was helpful
Nice video but background music is too loud and disturbing. Please keep it low. Thanks😊👍
Thanks for the suggestion!
Just listened to the book & this is a lovely summary - well done!
Thank you kindly!
Sunday Neurosis is such a fascinating idea to me. Do people work primarily for money? Or is it really because deep down they're terrified of the freedom that would lead them to confront existential thoughts?
Insane Bonus Rant:
Meaning and purpose? The purpose of the shovel is to help people dig holes. It has that purpose because someone else decided that for it. That's why it was made. It's a tool. My "purpose"? Am I a man or a tool? No thanks, I'm good. I'm just here.
Excellent analogy in the bonus rant. Thanks for your comment
Can’t you give a deeper meaning to that statement about the shovel please? Don
@DonBraidwood My perspective has changed a lot since when I wrote this comment. Back then, I was frustrated with living a meaningless life and sick of feeling like a tool for work rather than a human being.
What I think I meant is that unlike tools, which are assigned meaning at their conception by their makers, humans have no "purpose" for which they exist, and as such shouldn't be bound to meaning as other things are and needn't bother striving for it.
I've come to disagree with this view, but not in favour of meaning.
I see "meaning" as something humans (or perhaps some conscious minds) construct to avoid thinking about the directionless nature of reality. I think our species evolved alongside it for so long, that we are culturally and biologically dependant on it.
Put another way, someone without meaning may just sit on their hands all day and do nothing. "Losing the will to live" sort of thing. Without "something" to work towards, or something to believe in, the organism stops participating in life and the processes needed to continue its own existence.
This is my best guess anyways, from personal experience.
Back to the shovel.
The difference now is that I dont see any difference between me and the shovel.
I can't "give" the shovel any meaning, I can only imagine I do. Just like I can't give myself any meaning, I can only imagine it.
Meaning is not real, it's just a way we can fool ourselves into believing we have control, stability, and understanding --order-- in an existence that would nuke us from space with an asteroid without blinking an eye, so went the dinosaurs.
My "goal" is see how enjoyable a life without meaning can be. I dont expect it to be great, but it's what I'm interested in.
I'm a bit of a twisted person and I worry my views will take away the meaning from other people's lives, so I usually shutup about it, but it's good to chat about it with other people who're struggling with existential questions.
Hope my explanations helped, best of luck Don.
@@magikarpslapper759thank you. Today I bought a book called a man’s search for meaning & he stated he survived a concentrate by having meaning in his life. His then created logo therapy, that linked me to existentialism. I’m 58 & at this existentialism time in my life. I am a born again Christian but I don’t know if I should have meaning & purpose & if I do what is it. Your statement thought indicated that you meaning is meaningless politely want to state to you, if you feel you don’t want meaning why you posting comments? Your thoughts?
@DonBraidwood I've been meaning to read it, I'm interested in how Victor sees the world.
In my opinion, no one knows what is "right" or what is "true". I think neither of those things exist. I think it is up to every man to decide what he likes in life, and then to decide what to do from there.
I like stories, and being amongst nature, computers, good food, fishing, philosophy, and most of all I like the warm feeling of being kind to others, and knowing we'll look after eachother.
I used to be very against religion, but I've mellowed out somewhat and I've come to appreciate the variety of beliefs in this world. From it has sprung marvelous architecture, literature, stories, and even communities of all different religions and beliefs. It's quite refreshing to know there's so much human ingenuity out there, like a library of human passion.
My answer for you would be to trust in yourself. If your religion feels right for you, walk the path and walk it well. I've walked Buddhism, and even though I left unconvinced, I still took some great lessons from it.
In a world with no right answers, be who you want to be.
Ah, and as for the last question. I comment because I'm selfish. I like to be understood and heard by others, and I like it even more when I can help people to overcome the mental rut they might be stuck in. I'm someone who wakes up sad every day for no reason, and I understand what it's like to not enjoy life. So it's an emotional thing, I get catharsis in my own life when I can support others who're going through what I go through.
Life is rough, but we were born for tough times.
Thanks for reading, Don.
Brandon
How to apply logotherapy in litrature?
Can you reply me
I'm doing project on this topic
Here's an interesting article you might find helpful www.researchgate.net/publication/320685752_Logotherapy_and_the_Empirical_Research_of_Literature. Thanks for commenting!
Excellent! That was a good short summary. No ifs, no buts. :-)
Glad you liked it!
As a psychlogy student i have heard way to little about this interesting topic. Thanks for this great summary!
Btw what is the song called in this video? :)
I’m not sure about the name of the song. Licensed audio from my video producer, I believe. Hey, thanks for your comment!
But he forgot that Freud already found the meaning - "to die" as in when one can face their own mortality, quite potentially it is the dawning to the end of their neuroses.
Great video
Thanks Seth 🙏🏼
Solution to long suffering or misery. Love. Problem, missing ingredient, love
please please please please please, Jesus.
I cry out to you with all my soul...
bring into my life my twin-flame,
and a tribe of real friends.
I cannot bear to continue to be alone...
What do you think about this quote from Jung? “ “No matter how isolated you are and how lonely you feel, if you do your work truly and conscientiously, unknown friends will come and seek you.”
3/15/23 - insightfulness I gained ...
One's demon-hellish-existence ...
One's desire-power-meaning ...
All that existential crisis-vaccum we try to fill ...
Desire without meaning; power without meaning; meaning with out meaning ...
Ask
Question
Seek
A mind thought-provoke analysis
Til my last breath I will always seek.
Ty
You’re right on. Thanks for the comment!
Adlerian*
Yes, Adler was also an existentialist thinker so there are some similarities
Where did he get paper to write a book 9 days after "liberation?" He starts his book with an admission, "THIS BOOK DOES NOT claim to be an account of facts and events...."
I don’t know where he got the paper from.
“This book does not claim to be an account of facts and events but of *personal experiences*, experiences which millions of prisoners have suffered time and again. It is the inside story of a concentration camp, told by one of its survivors.”
M I intelligent one 😂