Viktor Frankl: Self-Actualization is not the goal
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- In one of his final television interviews Viennese psychiatrist Viktor Frankl, author of "Man's Search for Meaning" explains how Logotherapy's concepts of meaning and self-transcendence contrast the deterministic views of modern psychotherapy. Suffering from macular degeneration, a severe eye condition which left him virtually blind in his later years, Frankl wore sunglasses to protect his eyes from bright studio lights.
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I read, "Man's Search for Meaning", many years ago. At one point, years later, during a horrendous situation I was experiencing, I was able to use something Frankl had said in his book, regarding how some concentration camp victims survived. He said that it wasn't the people who had the physical strength, and, brawn who were most likely to survive, but, rather the people who had the best imaginations and could visualize what they had to look forward to, in the future. This mental projection could be a person, place, or thing, that gave them a reason and the passion to want to live.
Awesome comment
Yes, they were experiencing gratitude and hope. Those who have gratitude for even the smallest of things and also have hope for their future survive.
There may be some truth in this, but the largest factor by far in surviving was luck, i.e. how late you were sent to a camp, how "easy" the camp was and what kind of "job" you were given (read Frankl's life story to see how his experience during 1941-1945 differs markedly from the vast majority who died). I'm not trying to downplay Frankl's suffering, but this general argument without qualification insults those who were murdered - being "positive" would not have helped them.
@@piaraskelly1038 That true...but we all know that circumstance does exist. Tsunamis happen. But WITHIN that reality, we have 'free will'.
Yep, my mom left me an original copy. Hard to read as its in German. But yeah, thats correct. Same thing for people who are in prison. Or Tokyo.
Honestly, I’m in complete awe of the strength of this man to make it through the darkest depths of human cruelty and emerge with a will to spread compassion for others in the way he did for so many years. What a true inspiration, and what a legacy to leave behind.
He is inspiring. Why don't psychiatrists study HIS books? Instead of the stupefying ICDs and DSMs ???
@@marypower1261 Because we like to study the most useless shit and not help anyone.
If you are not vaccinated, you will probably be going through similar
bingo! absolutely correct man
There is no surprise that this man is companionable, it’s just an automatic by product of what he went through, once you survive such situations then you become wise and more understanding of other humans behavior. Just few end up with some type of retribution. Anyway not many people want to live life in such state of mind of anger or negativity. It’s all about life experience. If you want to become low level of humanity then you might put yourselves in a situation of risk and su then you might be a different person just like this gentleman.😅
"Something you have done can never be undone." That's a powerful perspective.
Yes but not one I agree with. Alchemy needs all its essential elements to create the new from the old. The most powerful tool a human possesses is forgiveness. How do you have forgiveness without injury?
@@vickirushrush8035 So lets have more injury to maximise the opportunities for showing forgiveness? That doesn't sound like a good deal. If for a positive(such as forgiveness)to be possible, a negative is first required(i.e., injury)-it shouldn't be up for consideration as a goal.
Forgiveness does not undo.
What you've done can be seen through different perspectives. What seems bad may turn out to be good thing, with time.
I have always loved Victor Frankl. He taught at my school in the psychology department and I was fortunate enough to go and see and hear him give a lecture. I'm so glad I watch this video because there are terrible things going on right now and we need meaning
The tragedy is so many people do not see what is really happening and the blindness is in our hearts
@@martiendejong8857 So right Martien and Christina. Senior year high school I did the part of Anne Frank. To this day she is with me. Things are getting really scary. They said that it would never happen again. BTW it was a Catholic high school. I've been very aware ever since. People working in the camps were told what to do and they obeyed. It makes me sick because there are people around these days who would do the same thing. So many are deranged and don't value other people. Too many.
Meaning is the cure. But that means we have to really explore what 'meaning' is and why it's so nourishing.
@@martiendejong8857 The trick of it all is this: we're ALL experiencing meaning, all the time. It's the interplay of the world as we experience it being passed through our belief systems about it. It's not that nihilists experience no meaning - they're experiencing the meaning of DENYING the world around them, denying the fundamental wonder of existence. There's a consequence of that fundamental dishonesty/denial - the consequence is that it feels *actually* horrible to all of us. We all hate this. But nihilism survives because there's this larger driver for those who settle into it - a hatred of meaning itself, due both to the spirit of Cain that lives in all of us (the part of us that hates that we have to strive, and risk failure, often unjust failure, to do anything good or satisfying), but also because the institution of Christianity a) has some flaws in the story itself, depending on how it's read, but also b) has been not just a force for good in this world, but often a force of oppression and guilt. And so you have all of these people resentful against Christianity and the judgmental God, and they've attempted to throw out meaning and judgment itself, thinking either can be escaped. But they JUDGED that to be the correct course. And now they're experiencing the meaning of their actions (and now we're ALL experiencing the meaning of letting the world get this way - thinking meaning doesn't exist). To your point, it's often those who are religious who have a strong framework to oppose this denial of meaning, and since the solution is, in some manner of speaking, a religious one (a metaphysical one), the Leftists/nihilists use it all as reason to disparage. But we're getting there. Nihilism is both understandable and silly and sad, but thankfully all we have to do is spend time with sensations (before we give them names) and life gets beautiful and nourishing again. Sounds woo-woo, I know. But what it really is is looking at what life is at a fundamental level (sensation) and not opposing it. It's acceptance. It's faith. And with faith we can play with meaning and story and live grand adventures with that little knowing smile, in the back of our minds, that this thing we're doing is good, again, whether that comes from one's belief in a certain description of God or simply having sat with experience itself for long enough to know that yes, it's good. And maybe that's all the same thing.
Self actualization is NOT a goal in and of itself, but a byproduct of fulfillment, whether fulfillment comes by way of self valuing or service to others.
I love that. Thank you for sharing these videos! ❤
spot on. utterly true!!
Fulfillment also comes through experiencing both beauty and other people.
Few can imagine a self actualization w/o the fundamental facts/truths, what are finally surfaced, and supported by Quantum Physics Studies.
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In the event your interested, My Comment Copy:
*Here's a "Researched" Perspective that few have realized:*
When one comes into their Awakened State and seek the greater fundamental Truths, (mine heavily found and influenced by the "Universal Laws", particularly the *"Universal Law of Attraction"* *(and the very depths of what this Law defines, what it means, and the Abundance of this Law's literal function and all that it touches, being every life form, everyday, 24/7),* through all of this and it's defining, it's meanings, *"I found the greater available clarity, understanding, and secure knowing relative to this 3D World, myself, others, the Physical and the Nonphysical, (our Souls defined as energy, and extension from the whole, the Source Energy, i.e., God, Creator of all that is, and with the fact the "Law of Attraction" defined, being that *"all that is, all ever manifested into material form, matter, in this 3D Reality, first requires THOUGHT"!"*
There you have, there it is, i.e., *"The Bang came 2nd", and you are the energy called the Soul, and energy is eternal, never can it be created nor destroyed "it merely changes form" thus this is conveying that: *"You and I and all Life Energies are Eternal, and death is not a dying of the individual, it is a Transition to Nonphysical",* only the "vessel" expires.
This is the information, definition, and the meanings interpreted, and it is Science, also it can be found scattered through Ancient Texts, fragmented in various Religions, where I feel certain it once existed in clear statements, yet it is and when one discovers this understanding they transform into a State of Realization, that which follows or is the greater goal of the Awakened State.
One may take this and go to the task of validating through research and establish their own perspective. I encourage this, for another's truth is merely hearsay until the points are verified.
I rest my point.
My areas of degrees are in: Sociology, Journalism, and History/Ancient History, with post grad studies and research, including the general comprehension of Quantum Physics, statements, studies, and principals.
It has become apparent that we have memory gaps, and a continued relearning if what has already been known.
We do not live in a linear Evolution, rather it has cyclic patterns, and expanded potentials.
Master the Ego/Lower Mind with a habit of being Conscious in Thought + Applying Higher Mind, then practice the "Law of Attraction" for the more desired and I feel intended, Life Journey Experiences.
The remaining will be realized in time, and for certain upon transition to Nonphysical.
I can, with confidence say, on a larger measure, regarding us "Modern Humans", the we, I, you, *"Not out 1st Ballgame"!*
Open Mind and discern, with Logic, the variance between: "Stories and Peer Reviewed Science", "Facts vs Theory", 'Textbooks aren't Bibles", and *"Literally, Anything is possible + Logic can apply"*
For doubtful minds, begin with the *"Blind Slit Experiment"*, add *"Spooky at a Distance" (Quantum Entanglement)*
Do the searches and read/watch/listen, to the Facts, "then establish your Beliefs.
Goodnight Chet ...
Beth
(Sociologist, Historian, Researcher)
🗝️🔮☀️
Tennessee, USA
Like Jesus said to St. Faustina - He does not require great achievements from us, just a commitment to do our best....
"Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl is a profound work that explores the human search for purpose and meaning, particularly in the context of the author's experiences in Nazi concentration camps during World War II. While the book offers deep insights into the human condition, it primarily focuses on existential and psychological perspectives rather than esoteric truths. Esoteric truths typically refer to hidden or mystical knowledge that transcends the ordinary understanding of reality. However, I can offer you some philosophical and existential insights from the book:
The Search for Meaning: Frankl emphasizes that human beings have an innate desire to find meaning and purpose in their lives. This search is essential for our well-being and can serve as a driving force to overcome even the most challenging circumstances.
Freedom of Attitude: Frankl proposes that despite external circumstances and conditions, individuals possess the freedom to choose their attitude and response to any given situation. This freedom lies in our ability to find meaning and make conscious choices.
Meaning in Suffering: Frankl argues that even in the face of extreme suffering, individuals can find meaning and purpose. By shifting our perspective and embracing our unique circumstances, we can transform suffering into an opportunity for growth and self-discovery.
Responsibility and Authenticity: The book highlights the importance of taking responsibility for our own lives and living authentically. We have the power to shape our attitudes, actions, and responses, which ultimately contributes to the meaning and fulfillment we find in our existence.
Spiritual Transcendence: While not explicitly esoteric, Frankl suggests that spiritual transcendence plays a significant role in finding meaning. By connecting with something greater than ourselves, whether through religion, nature, art, or love, we can tap into a deeper sense of purpose and meaning.
It's important to note that "Man's Search for Meaning" primarily focuses on existential and psychological concepts rather than esoteric or mystical truths. The book offers profound insights into the human condition, resilience, and the quest for meaning in life, drawing from Viktor Frankl's personal experiences and his work as a psychiatrist.
This needs to be corrected. Frankl says that fulfilment of meaning then leads to self actualisation occurring. He doesn’t dismiss self actualisation.
Sorry, I am from a younger generation but what does self-actualization even mean?
@@marapaprr4930 You can establish your identity and do things through which you express your identity.
@@mindcache5650 : identity leads to tribalism leads to rejection leads to war .
No benefit at all rises from that .•°
@@farrider3339 I believe that under "identity" he meant one's cultural system - one's values and beliefs, one's moral foundations. Not that these cannot lead to tribalism and war, everything can.
@@farrider3339 your philosophy is confusedshushism. (Regarding your other comments).
My father passed when I was young, My wife passed when my son was young. My son and I have made entirely new lives as entirely new people because of the ability to heal from the damage, and work towards being our best selves, because we can. He’s soon to be a father, so the Cycle continues.
God bless you and your son, thank you for being a father and teaching him what it means to be a man. Stay safe, much love.
Chris Brown Beautifully said. God bless you and your son.
Can work the same way by divorce, death is no prerequisite.
Praise God and thank you for your strength!
@@paulryan2128 shut up.
I read “ Man’s search for meaning” a few months ago, I was going through a very dark period of my life and it helped me a lot to understand the meaning of suffering. I’m better now by the way.
From personal experience,I am glad you made your way through the darkness and come out much better for it! All the blessings from God upon you!
@@joelfernandes5638 Thank you I will after I figure out to work better on using my smart phone.Where ever you are,have a great evening afternoon or morning!
Loren Heard thank you... I live in Germany. Here is very early in the morning but I woke up at 3:00 am. God bless you!
@@joelfernandes5638 Then by all means,seize the day! Even if you are indoors,we can through prayer and mental strengthening overcome many things through faith and action.Getting ready to end my day.It is raining steadily all day in Southern California.
Loren Heard Faith... I was born in a Christian home but along the years I almost forgot completely that there is a living God. I’m really grateful that I had to endure some much pain because it made me find my faith in God again. Take care Loren and stay safe, I wish you a good night. The weather here has been nice the last week or so...
“He who has a why to live for, can bare almost any how”
~ Nietzsche
What do you mean by that? 😂
It's amazing how much the physical body can take with a mind willing to elude death.
Thus Spoke the Zarathustra lol
Bear, not bare
@@damasek219 "Hey how are we gonna get that ball off the roof?"
"GWWWAAAAARRRRRRGHGHHGGHGH!!!!"
Im gonna have compassion with whoever came up with the misleading title of this video.
@@jameshopkins534 ...and thus fulfill the meaning of the situation 😄
I was just going to say whomever entitled this video totally didn't understand the lecture.
but do you have unconditional positive regard for them
Ha! nice
😂😂
Viktor Frankl was my mothers teacher after the war. You gotta love the man. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Peace.
Yet, I don't
bingo! totally correct man
Wait we gotta love him cause he taught your mother 😅? No you gotta love him but not us 😊
"I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."
Man's Search for Meaning is a worthwhile little book to read. A person of compassion turned me onto it around 5 years ago, when we had a chat one evening in a cancer ward where I sat on my bed, waiting for chemo. Frankl communicates a simple truth: There is always a reason to live, and each of us has to manufacture that reason. Decide to work at something, and put your faith in that. Your self-pity, your aimlessness, your despair, your externalizing contempt and your anger...they can slip away, back into the hellish shadows from whence they issued. DECIDE to be positive, and not in some 'new-age'-y way, i.e. get to work!! In fact, decide what THE WORK is, for you and you alone, and then dedicate your life to doing it. There is no waffling when you are sitting in the middle of a freeway where speeding trucks are bearing down on you. You are responsible. You. No one else is going to fix your situation, your life, or your viewpoint, or the human condition. Terrible things ARE going to happen, it's guaranteed. You either pick yourself up and locate meaning in your life, OR you don't. Those who engage the former will survive. And by survive, I mean truly living, not just being a zombie. Because without purpose, there is no reason. And where there is no reason, there is madness, and death. Why hurry? Death will come for everyone, soon enough. If you learn to accept the simple yet vital truth about purpose in your life (and this includes atheists), you will be able to face both life and death with equanimity and grace. And so will the people who really knew you.
Wow I will use some of your words for my son.. he’s an amazing 20 y/o but it doesn’t want to commit to college but he wants to continue going.. he keeps blaming to bizarre or other outside situations except himself as to why the grades are low, I don’t expect him to be a genios but I no longer have a 401 k I drained everything trying to continue, during the last 2 years it has been one or other problem. The semesters are now 34,000!!! We can’t even take out student loans.
I do not know how to explain it to him anymore that we are out of money ..
thank you btw
Uhhhhhh...... you do know atheist just means they don't believe a god exists right? It has nothing to do with ones personal efficacy. You are insinuating that they do not have meaning, value or a purpose in their lives because of this belief. Please reconsider your comment as it is fully ignorant.
@@KINDaf Your misinterpretation is duly noted. Thank you for your interest.
@@LaserGuidedWhitehaus Ah yes, an old adage, you can bring a fool to water but you cannot make him drink. Thank you for sadly remind me of this fact. Sometimes it's the truly only the intelligent who flaunt their ignorance so unashamedly that one is unable to miss this glaring ultimate red flag. The inability to use a word properly also completely destroys your argument as you are unable to use the term in a manner that would further your case. I was rooting for you. So close but soooo far with your head up your a@@. I'm even more disappointed since googling the def of Atheism was too much for you to solidify your argument. Peace out ignorant fool!
Thank you very much for this gold from you, I appreciated it, I saved your comment, I want to preserve it if I may, thanks again and I wish you sincerely all the best! 🙏
Frankyl hits the nail on the head. There's endless psychotherapeutic modalities to treat various mental difficulties/struggles, but underlying most is a lack of purpose and meaning.
"Self-actualisation is a by-product of the fulfilment of meaning"
This man is a hero. The dignity he attributes to the human condition is uplifting.
Agreed
Frankl has been a crucial part of my survival after the death of my young daughter due to an embolism.
So sorry for your loss.
I wish you all the strenght and courage. Your daughter is waiting for you in the Hereafter.
My uncle helped clean up the World Trade Center ruins. He developed severe lung problems and died in his 50s a few years ago. When we went to clean up his things after his death, I found his copy of A Man’s Search for Meaning. i’d heard about it for years and wanted to read it for quite some time. when i opened it up, the Nietzsche quote about man can live as long as he had a how shakily underlined. it’s probably the most influential book in my life.
i’m struggling a lot right now with finding meaning after the pandemic and since literally all my plans for the future collapsed around me. even still, i still find my way back to this book. i don’t even know what i wanted to say with this…
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 I wish you all the best mate ! And please do not forget to look - here on yt - for Eckhart Tolle and Osho ! (secret tips !) - they both will be helpful on your path . . .
Im so sorry- i totally lost touch to myself and the surrounding...i had all Kind of problems in the past, violence expiriences since childhood- but since Lockdowns i cant connect, i feel stupid unstable no matter where i go- and i dont know how to overcome this!
Your uncle can thank Israel.
@@hib723 Are you trying promote the despicable
lie that Israel was behind 911?
Sometimes holding on does more damage. I know it's kinda ironic to say this when we have mentioned Nietzsche, but "let go and let God." Remember Friedriech said, "God is dead, we killed him" and not "there is no God."
3 TYPES OF VALUES:
1. Creativity (Doing)
2. Attitudinal (Responding)
3. Experiancial (Being)
StandardProceduree Experiential*
Thank you for your listing!
Creativity isn’t “doing”, doing is doing. Creativity is a mode of thinking that is very rare. Few people live in a state of compulsive creativity. The term itself is grossly overused in American culture likely because everyone has art class in school and is encouraged by their teachers to think creatively. Thinking creatively can cross over to different personality types but that doesn’t inherently make them creatives.
Those are not values.
@@holtproductions149 You don't need to be in a continuous state of compulsive creativity to be creative...
I think I'll be buying some of his literature real soon. Seeing self-actualization as a byproduct and not the goal is eye opening for me. I feel like I'm more concerned with squeezing every possible moral morsel out of any situation I find myself in, rather than simply experiencing the moment, and trusting that the lesson will present itself.
I never saw or understood this capacity in myself until I read this comment. Thank you for sharing. Yet another reminder to be here now
Can you read?
Wise guy!
@Will Ferrell's Sweet Nips. It's my believe (I'm 71) that chasing self-actualization, hunting for it, is contrary to the expression of its role in our lives. Our mental acrobatics may try, but, to me, it's the conscious choice based on moral values of one's own, that brings forth actions and an attitude in one's life that will lead to the moment when we proclaim our self-actualization, from the affinity for ourselves within our hearts. A realization that exists in all cells of our body. Embodiment 😉
@@devonseamoora lot can happen in 2 years! Holy cow! It was a blast from the past to reread that post considering how my life has gone, and how my experiences mirror the message of this video.
But to your point, the older i get (I'm only 28 though so i still have plenty to learn) the more apparent it is that your statement is a human truth. Self-actualization is not some treasure to be found on the horizon, it has to be created from within. I don't suppose you have any more paradigm shifting nuggets of wisdom that might save a 28 year-old some struggle in the long run?
There is an utterly beautiful passage in his wonderful book where Dr Frankl, in the darkness of his suffering, visualises his wife's beloved face and comes to a profound realisation that love is central to man's existence. He relates how a small colourful bird perches nearby and begins studying him in his ragged clothing and depleted physical form. I felt tears well as I read that many, many years ago, and revisit it often as a way of supplementing my own requirement for humility and emotional strength.
Self-actualization as a "by-product" of one's search for (and attainment of) meaning. It sort "falls in your lap". Brilliant.
Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl is a profound work that explores the human search for purpose and meaning, particularly in the context of the author's experiences in Nazi concentration camps during World War II. While the book offers deep insights into the human condition, it primarily focuses on existential and psychological perspectives rather than esoteric truths. Esoteric truths typically refer to hidden or mystical knowledge that transcends the ordinary understanding of reality. However, I can offer you some philosophical and existential insights from the book:
The Search for Meaning: Frankl emphasizes that human beings have an innate desire to find meaning and purpose in their lives. This search is essential for our well-being and can serve as a driving force to overcome even the most challenging circumstances.
Freedom of Attitude: Frankl proposes that despite external circumstances and conditions, individuals possess the freedom to choose their attitude and response to any given situation. This freedom lies in our ability to find meaning and make conscious choices.
Meaning in Suffering: Frankl argues that even in the face of extreme suffering, individuals can find meaning and purpose. By shifting our perspective and embracing our unique circumstances, we can transform suffering into an opportunity for growth and self-discovery.
Responsibility and Authenticity: The book highlights the importance of taking responsibility for our own lives and living authentically. We have the power to shape our attitudes, actions, and responses, which ultimately contributes to the meaning and fulfillment we find in our existence.
Spiritual Transcendence: While not explicitly esoteric, Frankl suggests that spiritual transcendence plays a significant role in finding meaning. By connecting with something greater than ourselves, whether through religion, nature, art, or love, we can tap into a deeper sense of purpose and meaning.
It's important to note that "Man's Search for Meaning" primarily focuses on existential and psychological concepts rather than esoteric or mystical truths. The book offers profound insights into the human condition, resilience, and the quest for meaning in life, drawing from Viktor Frankl's personal experiences and his work as a psychiatrist.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Valuable discussion. What a pity the title is so misleading,
Theunis Jansen van Vuuren
Speaks words. I think. Aloud without.
e title is possibly click bait but I think it's capturing the idea that self-actualization is a process in community with another.
This comment kept me from clicking off
Bergen Ehrlich 😌
but do you have unconditional positive regard for them
I’m crying. Because everything Dr. Frankl said made sense. Such a wonderful human being with the most important messages. Wisest and kindest in a quiet manner in his books and in himself. I am very lucky to see this video and to be able to see him talk. With love ❤️, thank you!
In the event your interested, My Comment Copy:
*Here's a "Researched" Perspective that few have realized:*
When one comes into their Awakened State and seek the greater fundamental Truths, (mine heavily found and influenced by the "Universal Laws", particularly the *"Universal Law of Attraction"* *(and the very depths of what this Law defines, what it means, and the Abundance of this Law's literal function and all that it touches, being every life form, everyday, 24/7),* through all of this and it's defining, it's meanings, *"I found the greater available clarity, understanding, and secure knowing relative to this 3D World, myself, others, the Physical and the Nonphysical, (our Souls defined as energy, and extension from the whole, the Source Energy, i.e., God, Creator of all that is, and with the fact the "Law of Attraction" defined, being that *"all that is, all ever manifested into material form, matter, in this 3D Reality, first requires THOUGHT"!"*
There you have, there it is, i.e., *"The Bang came 2nd", and you are the energy called the Soul, and energy is eternal, never can it be created nor destroyed "it merely changes form" thus this is conveying that: *"You and I and all Life Energies are Eternal, and death is not a dying of the individual, it is a Transition to Nonphysical",* only the "vessel" expires.
This is the information, definition, and the meanings interpreted, and it is Science, also it can be found scattered through Ancient Texts, fragmented in various Religions, where I feel certain it once existed in clear statements, yet it is and when one discovers this understanding they transform into a State of Realization, that which follows or is the greater goal of the Awakened State.
One may take this and go to the task of validating through research and establish their own perspective. I encourage this, for another's truth is merely hearsay until the points are verified.
I rest my point.
My areas of degrees are in: Sociology, Journalism, and History/Ancient History, with post grad studies and research, including the general comprehension of Quantum Physics, statements, studies, and principals.
It has become apparent that we have memory gaps, and a continued relearning if what has already been known.
We do not live in a linear Evolution, rather it has cyclic patterns, and expanded potentials.
Master the Ego/Lower Mind with a habit of being Conscious in Thought + Applying Higher Mind, then practice the "Law of Attraction" for the more desired and I feel intended, Life Journey Experiences.
The remaining will be realized in time, and for certain upon transition to Nonphysical.
I can, with confidence say, on a larger measure, regarding us "Modern Humans", the we, I, you, *"Not out 1st Ballgame"!*
Open Mind and discern, with Logic, the variance between: "Stories and Peer Reviewed Science", "Facts vs Theory", 'Textbooks aren't Bibles", and *"Literally, Anything is possible + Logic can apply"*
For doubtful minds, begin with the *"Blind Slit Experiment"*, add *"Spooky at a Distance" (Quantum Entanglement)*
Do the searches and read/watch/listen, to the Facts, "then establish your Beliefs.
Goodnight Chet ...
Beth
(Sociologist, Historian, Researcher)
🗝️🔮☀️
Tennessee, USA
Do you know Frankl’s book was made up? Professor Pytell debunked Frankl years ago.
This reminds me of a social interaction I had with a man much younger than myself. He is in his 20's in fact and I am "ancient of days". In the course of our conversation I told him I write books and his response startled me. Most people, let alone most young people, do not find that interesting, let alone impressive, but he said, "Oh, that's awesome. So you will have a legacy." I don't think of my writing in terms of having a legacy, but it does indeed give me a sense of meaning as did my former occupation of being a hospital social worker (a job which, were I not now retired, would now be not merely stressful as it always was to some degree but downright harrowing and even perhaps life-endangering). I may not be the next Hemingway, but I derive some satisfaction and life meaning in leaving my own scrawling on the wall of life in hopes it may inspire or entertain someone after I leave, so maybe he's right about the legacy thing too.
Steven Kerry / I’m glad for you 🤗 It is so good for a person to have a sense of their own value 💖💫 Stay well, brother 👋
This inspires me to get back into writing. I'm currently pivoting from a soulless corporate job into nursing as part of my own "search for meaning", and I haven't written anything substantial in years. But being a nurse and a writer is one hell of a legacy, even if no one reads my work.
You've inspired me, Steven Kerry, just as much as Victor Frankl. Stay well, and stay safe out there. Wherever that 20-something is now, I hope he knows he's accidentally sparked one hell of a legacy himself.
What kind of writing?
He’s no Carl Rogers I’ll say that.
@@richardspratley786 What I call "anti-science-fiction": world-building in a future when climate change and resource depletion have wrecked industrial civilization. Sounds dark and depressing, but for me, it represents hope against the inevitable. I'm trying to world-build and collect notes for a sort of Canterbury Tales type series of short stories.
I appreciate that you asked!
Frankl is the voice of light-filled clarity in the sea of confusing psychological and often conflicting theories.
❌ nO🚫
He's preaching .•°
If the sea appears confusing that is because it is. As we exist in a plane created out of pure chaos. Trying to make any sense of it is a fruitless endeavor too. But everyone needs a hobby I suppose?
Paul Frederick the universe functions with a perfect, harmonious order, following specific laws. That we as limited beings are anable to make sense of it, is something altogether very different
@@paulzenco6182 the Universe is a chaotic place. Some evidence suggests the plane of reality that we exist in is far from perfect too. For instance if the universe was perfect in its energy density matter would have never coalesced in it. But because it was so lumpy here we are.
Paul & Paul : Laws or Chaos , both are fictions of a puny human mind.
Laws are hierachical imagination according to religious fiction of a ruler who sets up laws.
Chaos is the other side of the same coin, as to give a name to the incomprehensible.
Puny human mind cannot figure out NoNearthly physics.
Ultimately it's just fairy tales.
All "evidences" refer to planet 🌏 and the sensual input human organism can process.
The observations and assumptions done by this extremely limited sensual range aren't worth discussing.
Flying to the moon is a cute and nice achievement , but what's the benefit of that except grasping for more resources.
Expanded exploitation is aLL that there is..•°
As a psychologist I'm really feeling like we've long-since hit the limits with CBT. I'm feeling done with even the more humanistic DBT or ACT. Logotherapy is where it's at. Back to the fundamentals - basic human experience, basic human beingness, basic human needs.
CBT is ineffective in dealing with trauma. Trauma is at the core of most ills and it's treatable, but there are layers to it and the individual must have a supportive empathetic therapist who understands trauma-based issues.
In the interest of the general reader, don't you think it would
be better to lose the acronyms?
@@guitarista666 acronyms are cool, like your username lol
@@infowazz First off, my username is not
an acronym. Secondly, it's a pain in the ass
to read text that contains acronyms that
you, and most everybody else, doesn't know
the meaning of.
So rather than Google something you spend time complaining and ask them to take time out of their day to explain?
It's cognitive behavioural therapy, dialectical behaviour therapy and acceptance and commitment therapy.
Now, if you want to know the differences between those look it up yourself.
Man's Search For The Meaning is one of the best books I've ever read and it has literally strengthen my faith in owneself I was in agony and existential crisis , living in guilt past sometimes at some point it leads me to be suicidal I almost started to believe there's no point to carry on this at all, One good friend of mine recommended this books , it saved rescued me from edge of end, Thanks very much indeed for this wonderful books
"Being" instead of "Having". So valuable to be able to see and hear Viktor Frankl. The video immortalizes him in a very human way.
Only works when you have enough food to survive and shelter to prevent an illness that will kill you. Many are dying from starvation in this world. No 'will to live' can save you when your heart does not have enough energy to pump the blood around your body. We cannot 'will' our way out of all bad situations.
This came up because I'm reading Primo Levi's "If This Is A Man," of the same incredible spirit as Victor Frankl.
What disturbs me here is the journalistic attitude of the interviewer, a detachment that is incomprehensible in face of the subject matter and of the man Frankl. Bravo to all commentators who are able to not-see or to over-look it but I cannot.
I absolutely admire Viktor F. Having been a war survivor myself, his thoughts resonate with me. His search of meaning is by all means the most human approach to life hardship and its recovery. I absolutely admire him.
My grandfather survived the holocaust after his entire family was murdered. The amount of strength that man had was bigger than this world
The horrific experiences of this brilliant man surely put one's own suffering into perspective. I'm reading Man's Search for Meaning now, and it is one of the most profound books I've ever read. May his soul rest in peace. His wisdom is more than ever necessary in this crazy world!
Noticing the beauty of life as it is now, this is experiencing life now. ❤
Viktor Frankl's message is to find meaning through being attentive to something greater than yourself. Self actualisation is not the goal, not to be aimed at if transcendence is to be possible. Self actualisation, though welcome, can only ever be a by product of a greater meaning derived from loving attention, dedication, compassion for others, acts of kindness, an appreciation of nature and a creativity in responding to life's situations. Being attentive, in a meaningful way, is the key to transcending suffering. Have read Man's Search for Meaning three times. It's a humbling yet alwsys an inspiring read. Viktor Frankl never loses his sense of humility despite his profound insights and wisdom. Logotherapy is humility and inspiration in essence.
Beautifully said
look to others who have not found meaning with compassion, i needed that. Im too hard on others
Dr. Frankl's statements about accepting death comes full circle. All his contributions to Psychology have been preserved and stored forever. Nothing is lost. He is still with us! as his wisdom forever spreads to many more people like me. I ask myself everyday, what does life expect of me, whenever I feel afraid. Dr. Frankl has helped me find MY meaning in life post-trauma. I will forever be grateful of him. 💐
I am sometimes so impressed with what the RUclips algorithm puts on my screen. Thank you for posting this. I love Victor Frankl. I believe that he nailed the meaning of life.
So did the Monty Python guys.
@@epictetusofhierapolis4461 Agreed. Life may have more than one meaning.
@Madasin ! That's lovely. It wasn't only the prisoners. There was that one guard who spent his own money on medicines for the prisoners in secret.
Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl is a profound work that explores the human search for purpose and meaning, particularly in the context of the author's experiences in Nazi concentration camps during World War II. While the book offers deep insights into the human condition, it primarily focuses on existential and psychological perspectives rather than esoteric truths. Esoteric truths typically refer to hidden or mystical knowledge that transcends the ordinary understanding of reality. However, I can offer you some philosophical and existential insights from the book:
The Search for Meaning: Frankl emphasizes that human beings have an innate desire to find meaning and purpose in their lives. This search is essential for our well-being and can serve as a driving force to overcome even the most challenging circumstances.
Freedom of Attitude: Frankl proposes that despite external circumstances and conditions, individuals possess the freedom to choose their attitude and response to any given situation. This freedom lies in our ability to find meaning and make conscious choices.
Meaning in Suffering: Frankl argues that even in the face of extreme suffering, individuals can find meaning and purpose. By shifting our perspective and embracing our unique circumstances, we can transform suffering into an opportunity for growth and self-discovery.
Responsibility and Authenticity: The book highlights the importance of taking responsibility for our own lives and living authentically. We have the power to shape our attitudes, actions, and responses, which ultimately contributes to the meaning and fulfillment we find in our existence.
Spiritual Transcendence: While not explicitly esoteric, Frankl suggests that spiritual transcendence plays a significant role in finding meaning. By connecting with something greater than ourselves, whether through religion, nature, art, or love, we can tap into a deeper sense of purpose and meaning.
It's important to note that "Man's Search for Meaning" primarily focuses on existential and psychological concepts rather than esoteric or mystical truths. The book offers profound insights into the human condition, resilience, and the quest for meaning in life, drawing from Viktor Frankl's personal experiences and his work as a psychiatrist.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I studied Victor when I was 19 and I feel his book changed my life and I continue to always focus on my purpose. It is a strong motivator.
I could say the same thing about what I was doing when I was 19. What I was up to did not involve reading anybody's book either.
What is your purpose
I am 19 and reading this book. I've been feeling existential crisis for the last 3 years.
"Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl is a profound work that explores the human search for purpose and meaning, particularly in the context of the author's experiences in Nazi concentration camps during World War II. While the book offers deep insights into the human condition, it primarily focuses on existential and psychological perspectives rather than esoteric truths. Esoteric truths typically refer to hidden or mystical knowledge that transcends the ordinary understanding of reality. However, I can offer you some philosophical and existential insights from the book:
The Search for Meaning: Frankl emphasizes that human beings have an innate desire to find meaning and purpose in their lives. This search is essential for our well-being and can serve as a driving force to overcome even the most challenging circumstances.
Freedom of Attitude: Frankl proposes that despite external circumstances and conditions, individuals possess the freedom to choose their attitude and response to any given situation. This freedom lies in our ability to find meaning and make conscious choices.
Meaning in Suffering: Frankl argues that even in the face of extreme suffering, individuals can find meaning and purpose. By shifting our perspective and embracing our unique circumstances, we can transform suffering into an opportunity for growth and self-discovery.
Responsibility and Authenticity: The book highlights the importance of taking responsibility for our own lives and living authentically. We have the power to shape our attitudes, actions, and responses, which ultimately contributes to the meaning and fulfillment we find in our existence.
Spiritual Transcendence: While not explicitly esoteric, Frankl suggests that spiritual transcendence plays a significant role in finding meaning. By connecting with something greater than ourselves, whether through religion, nature, art, or love, we can tap into a deeper sense of purpose and meaning.
It's important to note that "Man's Search for Meaning" primarily focuses on existential and psychological concepts rather than esoteric or mystical truths. The book offers profound insights into the human condition, resilience, and the quest for meaning in life, drawing from Viktor Frankl's personal experiences and his work as a psychiatrist.
I thought you also now become a motivator........
❤❤
Someone wrote that Herbert Marcuse fled the Nazis in Germany to the safe haven of the US and as a thank you he set out to destroy our country. The more I learn of him, the more I agree. Meanwhile, Frankl stayed in Austria. He stayed was tortured, lost his family, and returned to teaching in Vienna. He overcame the horrific victimization of his humanity and gave us a theory to regain ours.
He doesn't say that self-actualisation is nonsense. He says that preaching it is nonsense.
Great comment. Loved this piece the audio was superb and the interviewer left me pining for the good old days of great conversations
Yea I mean it is self actualization ..everyone realises them selves with them selves ...
Yes. Almost lost as an aside, he says it is a byproduct of fulfilled meaning (7:10).
That makes more sense, if that's the case. I couldn't agree more with that statement...
What he is saying is that seeking self-actualization directly is nonsense since it is a by-product of living a life with meaning,
Rest in powerful peace 🙏
Viktor Emil Frankl MD PhD
29 March 1905 ~
2 September 1997⚘
Meaning and purpose have carried me through bad times and good...Frankl's book completely changed my life when I read it as a Junior in High School...we had several suicides occur that year. Any notion of taking that route left my forever after seeing the void those suicides left in their families and communities...however, those events led to a key revelation regarding a past family member who had passed mysteriously. Learning about their struggle and ultimate choice to end their life, despite on the surface having 'everything to live for' in society's view, except the ability to recognize their purpose and true meaning
The concept of past as something that is unerasable and preserved eternally is certainly unique! Mostly we reminisce about the 'good old days' in melancholy for we will never get to experience it again and on other hand we must feel joyful that we ever got to experience those moments at all! Certainly a man's attitude and response to situations in life chances the worldview.
Man's Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankel
Top 5 books of all time
Every person must read it.
Using phrases such as “top 5 books of all time” is the telltale sign of an idiot
@@punkpoetry There is no accounting for taste........F. ZAPPA
@@punkpoetry And someone who speaks like you... is not just an idiot, but rude also. Love & peace ;-)
I worked as an educational psychologist in a youth prison, where many, as young as 16, had been tried and convicted as adults, and sentenced to life. I gave away at least 20-30 copies of Man's Search.... and those copies were passed around. It was the most therapeutic of all resources.
Hear, hear!
I went thru this sense of purposeless my whole life.Im old now and it don’t matter no more...finding peace in the last third of my life.
Rubber ducky you sound like your 5
A Jew from Brooklyn Nah actually you do.
52 people (the 52 likes) get it. Well said, @rubber ducky. Lol, I went through life inventing and finding, re-inventing and re-finding meaning and purpose only to discover that is no answer.
This was a lot to process, but I see so much truth and wisdom in his words. Thank you so much sir! May he rest in peace 🙏🏻
Why do so many interviewers never listen and acknowledge the answers to their questions and instead move on automatically to their next question on their list like robots? That is the opposite of good communication.
Back in the old days, they have limited time for video and audio recording.
The interviewers role is to set up the plaform for the interviewee to speak.
They don’t listen
So true!!! I ask myself the same question all the time.
Its amazing, frankly, to have the opportunity & privilege to watch Frankl and others share their thoughts.
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍Frankl frankly - so cute . . . .
This interview is a good small glimpse into Frankl's ideas, but I highly recommend reading Man's Search for Meaning. It's short and very hard to put down so you'll read it quickly, but it is just oozing with wisdom and it's a book I will definitely re-read during times of hardship.
I just reread it. Its an important book.
There are very few books I would consider truly 'life changing' but Mans Search For Meaning is without a doubt one of them. Dr. Frankl's understanding of the human condition and the compassion he affords it is unparalleled. Wounderful interview!
I love this style of old style interviews. I believe a lot of youtubers are involuntarily bringing this form back
Mankinds' search for meaning has been a very important book in my life.
"Search for meaning" is a very profound way to attain the highest values in life. ❤ I especially loved the part where he speaks on the permanence and dignity of your actions. He says that what you have done, is there forever...
Having studied psychology for 5 + year's & competing my degree, I realise the amount of material was modified and modeled around Victor Franklin's ethos and beliefs: the horrendous nightmares he went through and to come out the other side & became one of the most recognised therapist to date is just phenomenal.. Read "man search for meaning' this will give you an excellent chance & insight as to what he went through!! 👍 thanks for the upload..
Wow, guess you didn’t hear Professor Pytell debunked Frankl’s made up book years ago.
Psychology has a lot to answer to for how much of it has been outright stolen without credit from the psychoanalytic/counselling modalities and Buddhist philosophy. This has always bothered me so much
@@audreyh6628 ahh psychoanalysis and counseling are psychology. Your comment makes no sense.
See
I wrote this one morning while looking out the window in state prison. "As I contemplate the day ahead and await the morning sun, Staring out through razor wire which seems to restrict my fun, These bars that are on my window I know so very well, my life in living bondage from the depths of eternal hell. By opening up my eyes, to my amazement what I see, this day is what I make of it its truly up to me. In gazing at the vastness of my great big prison yard, perhaps I find a purpose and a meaning not too hard. The seen is now upon me to start a brighter day, this idle time of prison life begins to melt away. My days a little brighter as I watch the morning sky, to deny my newfound vision I'd be telling you a lie. Perhaps I'm not in prison as bad as it did seem, there are no bars, there is no fence, it's nothing but a dream. I'm breaking out of prison this prison in my mind, I feel that I'm more thankful and more loving of mankind... Namaste 🙏. Michael...
You got it! How are U doing today, Michael?
:)
@@jimosborne2 blessed
@@michaelmcdonald4021 Nelson Mandela- following his example!!
Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl is a profound work that explores the human search for purpose and meaning, particularly in the context of the author's experiences in Nazi concentration camps during World War II. While the book offers deep insights into the human condition, it primarily focuses on existential and psychological perspectives rather than esoteric truths. Esoteric truths typically refer to hidden or mystical knowledge that transcends the ordinary understanding of reality. However, I can offer you some philosophical and existential insights from the book:
The Search for Meaning: Frankl emphasizes that human beings have an innate desire to find meaning and purpose in their lives. This search is essential for our well-being and can serve as a driving force to overcome even the most challenging circumstances.
Freedom of Attitude: Frankl proposes that despite external circumstances and conditions, individuals possess the freedom to choose their attitude and response to any given situation. This freedom lies in our ability to find meaning and make conscious choices.
Meaning in Suffering: Frankl argues that even in the face of extreme suffering, individuals can find meaning and purpose. By shifting our perspective and embracing our unique circumstances, we can transform suffering into an opportunity for growth and self-discovery.
Responsibility and Authenticity: The book highlights the importance of taking responsibility for our own lives and living authentically. We have the power to shape our attitudes, actions, and responses, which ultimately contributes to the meaning and fulfillment we find in our existence.
Spiritual Transcendence: While not explicitly esoteric, Frankl suggests that spiritual transcendence plays a significant role in finding meaning. By connecting with something greater than ourselves, whether through religion, nature, art, or love, we can tap into a deeper sense of purpose and meaning.
It's important to note that "Man's Search for Meaning" primarily focuses on existential and psychological concepts rather than esoteric or mystical truths. The book offers profound insights into the human condition, resilience, and the quest for meaning in life, drawing from Viktor Frankl's personal experiences and his work as a psychiatrist.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
He, at one point, basically shared that you don't know what you have that's truly valuable until everything is taken from you and all you have left is the awareness of being. There is nothing more valuable or meaningful than being.
Does this mean that one's sanity is our most valuable possession?
@@MKTElM No...being. Being, as opposed to not being, is our most valuable possession. None of us has anything else conceivably close to the value of being. Certainly, without being, you can have nothing else. Without being, there is no you.
@@rembeadgc Religious people believe being is a gift . If you like , a minor ephemeral being contingent on Being.
@@MKTElM I believe every human is religious, because every human is essentially spiritual. I believe religion is however a human tries to nurture their spirituality. I believe whether something is considered a gift or not depends on the relationship between the giver and the receiver. I also believe that "being" is not extinguishable, but eternal. I believe that only the earthly "assignments" that manifest as "self" are temporary, unless, at some point, are glorified and made eternal. So, that's why I believe being is the most valuable thing all humans are given when they enter existence. I believe being is eternal, but not individual consciousness.
In the event your interested, My Comment Copy:
*Here's a "Researched" Perspective that few have realized:*
When one comes into their Awakened State and seek the greater fundamental Truths, (mine heavily found and influenced by the "Universal Laws", particularly the *"Universal Law of Attraction"* *(and the very depths of what this Law defines, what it means, and the Abundance of this Law's literal function and all that it touches, being every life form, everyday, 24/7),* through all of this and it's defining, it's meanings, *"I found the greater available clarity, understanding, and secure knowing relative to this 3D World, myself, others, the Physical and the Nonphysical, (our Souls defined as energy, and extension from the whole, the Source Energy, i.e., God, Creator of all that is, and with the fact the "Law of Attraction" defined, being that *"all that is, all ever manifested into material form, matter, in this 3D Reality, first requires THOUGHT"!"*
There you have, there it is, i.e., *"The Bang came 2nd", and you are the energy called the Soul, and energy is eternal, never can it be created nor destroyed "it merely changes form" thus this is conveying that: *"You and I and all Life Energies are Eternal, and death is not a dying of the individual, it is a Transition to Nonphysical",* only the "vessel" expires.
This is the information, definition, and the meanings interpreted, and it is Science, also it can be found scattered through Ancient Texts, fragmented in various Religions, where I feel certain it once existed in clear statements, yet it is and when one discovers this understanding they transform into a State of Realization, that which follows or is the greater goal of the Awakened State.
One may take this and go to the task of validating through research and establish their own perspective. I encourage this, for another's truth is merely hearsay until the points are verified.
I rest my point.
My areas of degrees are in: Sociology, Journalism, and History/Ancient History, with post grad studies and research, including the general comprehension of Quantum Physics, statements, studies, and principals.
It has become apparent that we have memory gaps, and a continued relearning if what has already been known.
We do not live in a linear Evolution, rather it has cyclic patterns, and expanded potentials.
Master the Ego/Lower Mind with a habit of being Conscious in Thought + Applying Higher Mind, then practice the "Law of Attraction" for the more desired and I feel intended, Life Journey Experiences.
The remaining will be realized in time, and for certain upon transition to Nonphysical.
I can, with confidence say, on a larger measure, regarding us "Modern Humans", the we, I, you, *"Not out 1st Ballgame"!*
Open Mind and discern, with Logic, the variance between: "Stories and Peer Reviewed Science", "Facts vs Theory", 'Textbooks aren't Bibles", and *"Literally, Anything is possible + Logic can apply"*
For doubtful minds, begin with the *"Blind Slit Experiment"*, add *"Spooky at a Distance" (Quantum Entanglement)*
Do the searches and read/watch/listen, to the Facts, "then establish your Beliefs.
Goodnight Chet ...
Beth
(Sociologist, Historian, Researcher)
🗝️🔮☀️
Tennessee, USA
I love this discussion and own Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning. One of the most influential books of my life. No one can prevent you from transcending your circumstances even if they take everything from you.
The search for the good, the beautiful and the True is a worthwhile journey.
Man’s Search For Meaning is such a powerful book! I am in awe of this guy for what he went through.
Great book: Victor Frankie’s “mans search for meaning”. Recommend by many people. Worth the time.
A psychiatrist who has a place for God.
The best kind
Concerned Citizen I read the book many years ago.. it was life changing... I love ❤️ to read it again
Read it many years ago. Vaguely recall he suggested living for another, having a life project, and perhaps he also wrote about suffering as a reason to tell the story of the suffering (eg the person ushered into the gas chamber tells the Jew who does the ushering, "you must survive--to tell the world what happened").
Don't know why you bring up god
There Maybe a Place for God But is There a need? Not everyone Needs the God you Believe in or Any God
The degree of suffering we have is related to resistance to what is and the ability to create a story you wish to believe. He is proof that a person can believe the story I am a victim and let that ruin them or they can use their own powerful energy to accept what is and still create a what they want. He did not choose to be a victim and therefore became the master of his destiny.
This man’s second language is better than my first language.
Self actualization is not to be sought, it is a "by-product" of an experience.
Victor Frankl states at 7:00; "...Self actualization can only fall into your lap automatically, once that you have fulfilled a concrete meaning, [have done]] the best [with] a situation, then you actualize yourself as a by-product."
Thank you for uploading this! After reading Man's Search for Meaning, the fact that made it to the ripe age of 92 is a God ordained miracle.
Yes, a title update would really make sense: Self-Actualiaztion AS A BYPRODUCT... is the message I heard.
Some might conclude that they can self-actualize (fulfil yourself) AS A BY PRODUCT; they can 'aim at the by-product' (problematic). They will suppose that their fulfilment is coming from THEIR initiative. But Frankl's point is that the fulfilment is coming from something given to them, to you. That you involve yourself with it is not your doing. Though, certainly, it is your choice. --
So no correction needed, really.
@@edwardtingley2214 Brilliantly said... Thanks. Then, Self-ActualizING-as-a-process, not -self-actualization-as-a-goal, unfolds and it becomes a matter of "allowing" it. Hence, a "being"-choice and not a "doing"-one.
@@edwardtingley2214 Yes, well said indeed, but I still feel that Jean-Philippe Challandes touched on an important point. He wisely said that a title "update" would make sense, not calling it a correction, which is a far less contentious stance. Viktor Frankl in the video said that "preaching self-actualization" is nonsense, and continued by saying that "self-actualization can only fall into your lap". I did not hear a call to abandon the term, only how in his opinion it is best achieved.
Perhaps not as click-worthy, but "Self-Actualization as a Byproduct" is more accurate than "Self-Actualization is Nonsense" in my opinion.
@@marekwojcik7153 - I see what you folks are saying, I think, but am still hanging back. For the reason that 'Self-Actualization AS A BYPRODUCT' would leave the word SELF ambiguous. It is then either the object of the action alone (the thing actualized) or it is, in addition, the subject of the action (the thing actualizing too), and that is what Frankl calls nonsense. I read Frankl to say that the self isn't doing anything but saying Yes to something it hasn't set in motion. But the desire for meaning is there; that it HAS.
Yeah... I also got the idea that self-actualisation comes in connection with other people.
Someone once said "What's your Purpose? It's whatever you SAY it is" . Love that
This is the most serious episode of "between two ferns" ive seen yet. Fantastic.
One of the most transformative individuals in the world, from his personal suffering to an influential philosophy worldwide. Once you read his works, you can lift yourself out of self-pity into a self-motivated individual no matter the situation.
Pit O'Maley agree whole heartedly sir.
He held a wonderful speech in Vienna about "collective guilt".
I second that.
The older I get, the more I realize that all I have is my “naked” self. I’m very grateful that I have listened to wise elders, and I’m taking opportunities to grow, and to see others for who they are and their potential for growth as well. My life means a lot to me.
What a loss to have an interview of such magnitude cut short. Thank God we have Victor Frankl's books!
He helped me answer the hardest questions that kept me stunlocked for 2 years. What in the heck is life doing if it's nothing but physical pain and suffering? How can you know that the odds of survival are so low, that you're only surviving to suffer another day, and YET continue fighting on??? It made absolutely no sense to me until his book
I live to fight another day.”
My purpose is to Love and Be loved.
I am a beloved woman of my Father God.
That is enough.
What Dr. Frankl said in this interview is so similar and resonate so much with Buddhism!! Great minds think alike!!🙏🙏🙏💖💖
There is ONLY ONE SPIRIT.
♥️👍🙂
@@Mr.Dean1 🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 All is ONE (ZEN)
If you go so far to the west you end up in the east.
Victor Frankl is my hero! 😎When I suffer in any situation- I remember his book “You know which one” and my suffering leaves me by laughing at me 😆
I was brought to Viktor Frankl through Stephen Covey's '7 habits of highly effective people'. To me Frankl's influence is very clear in Covey's book - one has to establish a meaning to his or hers life before life can be fully lived. It sounds so simple but this realisation only came to me at 40 years of age after a difficult few years. I feel so encouraged now to have a really considered what the my meaning is and with that knowledge I feel previously unassailable obstacles can now be overcome. Better late than never!!!!
Wow! That got me.
That is why Frankl is quoted so much
I read the book 30 years ago, and it was one of the most powerful books I have ever read.
While I don’t like the clickbait in itself, I do appreciate that it led me to click on an enlightening video.
👍😆
He immediately corrected the host on making it about american vs europeans but brought the conversation back to human beings supporting each others. Thats greatness...
This man is amazing. The essence and the potential can only be seen through love : so important. His insights and methods are remarkable and very helpful! He hasn't had a chance to research animal individual uniqueness, essence and potential apparently but he couldn't possibly do it all, and we owe Dr Frankl a great deal.
For those unable or without the historical knowledge to digest Nietzsche, this guy is a good starting point. His real life life and death survival experiences give him an extremely unique and profound understanding of the root causes of Life.
Viktor Frankl is a genius. Read his book titled Man's Search for Meaning. His surviving the Holocaust changed his perspective on conventional psychology.
GREAT book !!!
Interviews like this are what make RUclips great. Where else can one hear directly from a giant like Viktor Frankl. Amazing!
I truly appreciate it when he says that there can be a very deep sense of security from understanding that the past can never be undone if you use it to find meaning.
"If you can't make an idea clear enough for a child to understand it, you don't understand it!" A. Einstein
Wow! So moving and so wise. I must go back and re-read Man's Search for Meaning!
What an honor to check in with Dr. Franklin. I had the blessing of working with one of his students a few years back. Such a light in this world!
Ive thought how many times have i wandered blind suffering, and fear entering about future pain to come.
But the last part of Victor's comments were beautiful to me, no suffering is in vain, and at 62 years old looking back i wouldn't change a thing.
His book Man’s Search For Meaning was one of the best books I’ve read.
Viewing with compassion and not contempt is the key.
One can do both.
Compassion for the being; contempt for thoughts and actions harmful to themselves and others.
One needs neither. Viewing or observing is sufficient in itself for existence
@@zarathustra7974 Perhaps therein lies a critical difference between observing and truly experiencing. Between existing and truly living. On a practical level, from the perspective of the observer, perhaps that difference sounds like trivial or meaningless wordplay that does not represent a fundamental difference in the events that are transpiring. But over the lifetime of the "observer" vs that of the "experiencer", the events that be would observed / experienced will almost certainly vary dramatically as a direct result of which of those two lenses the world had been viewed. In other words. Those who are passionate to create, to achieve, to experience will live quite different lives than those who lack any motivation, passion, or drive.
Of course, the question of whether either of those individuals is more likely to achieve the elusive chemical equilibrium we call "happiness" is another matter entirely.
@@Joe-os3vp This is why I love Carl Jung. I'll take both contempt and compassion. I'll embrace both good and evil. I choose wholeness above all. Shadow integration for the win!
@@Joe-os3vp Peterson isn't a paedophile. Yet you seem to harbour so much pointless & unfounded contempt for him. You could actually use some "shadow integration" and eventually proceed to withdraw your projections.
Besides, I had mentioned Jung, not Jordan. Why would you even equate one with the other?
As a teen, I read Man's Search for Meaning and referenced it many years thereafter.
Amazing how a man who went through so much and had so much wisdom was asked questions in a way that someone would ask a grad student, he’s humble
This man is a pure genuis and a truly loving soul.
I knew nothing of him, and came to his book after a recommendation by Jimmy Kimmel. ...a good tale in itself...
One of the best books I have read.
Two of his books where the first I read after I lost my husband, he dissapeared and was never found. They have helped me so much, that was the beginning of my Search to my inner Self.
Never imagine Kimmel read such a profound book of the human history. Respect.
Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl is a profound work that explores the human search for purpose and meaning, particularly in the context of the author's experiences in Nazi concentration camps during World War II. While the book offers deep insights into the human condition, it primarily focuses on existential and psychological perspectives rather than esoteric truths. Esoteric truths typically refer to hidden or mystical knowledge that transcends the ordinary understanding of reality. However, I can offer you some philosophical and existential insights from the book:
The Search for Meaning: Frankl emphasizes that human beings have an innate desire to find meaning and purpose in their lives. This search is essential for our well-being and can serve as a driving force to overcome even the most challenging circumstances.
Freedom of Attitude: Frankl proposes that despite external circumstances and conditions, individuals possess the freedom to choose their attitude and response to any given situation. This freedom lies in our ability to find meaning and make conscious choices.
Meaning in Suffering: Frankl argues that even in the face of extreme suffering, individuals can find meaning and purpose. By shifting our perspective and embracing our unique circumstances, we can transform suffering into an opportunity for growth and self-discovery.
Responsibility and Authenticity: The book highlights the importance of taking responsibility for our own lives and living authentically. We have the power to shape our attitudes, actions, and responses, which ultimately contributes to the meaning and fulfillment we find in our existence.
Spiritual Transcendence: While not explicitly esoteric, Frankl suggests that spiritual transcendence plays a significant role in finding meaning. By connecting with something greater than ourselves, whether through religion, nature, art, or love, we can tap into a deeper sense of purpose and meaning.
It's important to note that "Man's Search for Meaning" primarily focuses on existential and psychological concepts rather than esoteric or mystical truths. The book offers profound insights into the human condition, resilience, and the quest for meaning in life, drawing from Viktor Frankl's personal experiences and his work as a psychiatrist.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
It all starts from within. Imagination dreams to goals to work to success. This video is probably the best way to think of what the past is. I love it
I remember reading his book in 1984; my life changed in an instant. I knew I could thrive, not just survive. It was a most beautiful moment, therefore I remember that “In Search For Meaning.” Was and is the most important book, period.
I have just finished Man's Search for Meaning for a second time. It upset me again in places, but I know I need to read it and know it well.
It would be great if everyone could read it.
5:45 "A person is something absolutely unique, irrepeatable in the evolution of the cosmos, incomparable with any other human being. This uniqueness can be got hold of solely by a loving person because he [the loving person] not only sees the essence, but also the potentials in the beloved person, therefore promoting him, alleviating it, to reach out, to obtain this potential and to fulfill and thereby actualise himself. But not by preaching self-actualisation, that is a nonsense...self -actualisation can only fall into your lap automatically, once you have fulfilled a concrete meaning and done the best of a situation, then you self-actualise yourself as a by-product."
Thanks for transcribing this very important point on self-actualization, that we cannot pursue it but it ensues as a result of working towards a noble cause.
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Maslow didn’t preach self-actualization either. He was also very clear that seeking self-actualization (or even happiness) was the surest way to not find it.
@Joseph electric-chemical reactions inside the skull cap...another universe to explore 🧐
Moana Bianchin would this be akin to “First enter the kingdom of heaven and only then will you experience the benefits?” (paraphrased from Gospels)
I read "Mans Search for Meaning"..how to maintain hope in the most horrendous situations. I am in complete awe of the strength of this man and what a legacy to leave behind.
Yeah me too you can find meaning in the simplest of things. He would be horrified today to see that most peoples meaning is money.
@@HonchHeadothere is meaning in money. You can find meaning in everything. What’s wrong with wanting to have lots of money? It gives many fellows a purpose to live for. You think you have found the ultimate truth?
@@bitkurd There is nothing wrong with money, its just a thing like a chair. Its how you get it and use it. If you steal a chair and bash someone over the head with it, that is bad. If you buy a chair and sit on it, that is good.
Thank you for sharing this powerful clip with us 🌿💚🙏🏽
I can not put into words my full experience of having watched and listened to this con-versation.
Something that stayed with me from having watched the full documentary, Victor & I, how his first wife, Tilly, had said Viktor was not hungry in the belly but hungry in the mind (or imagination). This touched me very deeply. What are we hungry for?