Horizon Hobby - Carbon-Z Cub SS 2.1m - Unbox Build Maiden
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03:13 Maiden Flight
15:06 Unboxing
38:02 Radio Setup
1:12:08 Build
2:54:32 Battery Leads
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As a someone new to this stuff this video was a freaking gold mine of information. Many many thanks!
Todd - this is what we do here ;) Welcome! Come back for more. We have literally THOUSANDS of videos to help people get started. This hobby has a steep learning curve, and we aim to help get people over the initial hurdles and flying as quick as possible. We want a world full of RC addicts (just like me) ;)
I love how you show the build and also setting up your radio. I will be looking at your other videos.
I'm so glad you enjoy that part. It's a necessary evil of the hobby, but so much easier than it was years ago...but without a starting point, it's almost insurmountable without help or significant past experience, so I make it a point to walk through these steps.
I make tediously long videos for this reason, and many are very annoyed by it....glad you've found some value in it Carrie!
you prolly dont give a damn but does any of you know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb forgot my account password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me!
@Gerald Asher instablaster :)
@Albert Randall i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im trying it out atm.
I see it takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Albert Randall it worked and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thank you so much, you really help me out :D
Plus I want to thank you for all the hard work you and Cam crew do You help out more people than you know
Thanks Caesar - We're glad to help how we can!
Thanks Brian, so far so great. I'm new to the sport and have been flying the Cessna Carbon Z. I love the plane but usually take an extra three front nose gear assemblies with me when I go flying. I think this Cub might be a little sturdier for my needs. Keep up the great work!
Three?!??! WOW, expensive plane - LOL...this Carbon Z Cub 2.1 is awesome!
Coming from someone who has very little knowledge about battery powered planes, this was very interesting and entertaining. You really know what you're talking about and I love the passion you have for flying! Great job Brian!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! This is something I'm really passionate about...you should hear me at work ;)
great stuff! well laid out, great presentation! Never stop those build videos. After being out of the hobby for 5 years, this was great to find!
My Carbon Cub S+ just came in today, Im getting back into the hobby.
Once I get things all situated, Ill be ordering a Carbon Z Cub.
Awesome to see an unboxing
Thanks Chris! You'll love it ;)
Good video I"ve been looking at that plane I had the original Sport Cub and loved it.
That plane is excellent too! Esteban has one, and we fly it all the time...even though it's been killed at least 10 times, and brought back to life a little less awesome each time...but still so much fun!!!
Great video! Just did the Maiden flight today. Thank you for explaining all the radio set up.
You're very welcome! Glad we could help you out!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Greetings from Dubai! Big fan here. Thanks again.
Brian, Sprayed my plane with Semi Gloss Clear Rust-Oleum came out Gorgeous !!
I bet! Hope it holds up nicely for you!
Hi Brian yes it was the umx j3 cub...still have it and still fly it from time to time...when I do fly it
I get quite nostalgic as it was the first plane I flew and my son also...it brings back fun memories..and I totally agree it’s a great little plane ...thank you again for the videos your passion and enthusiasm for this hobby is fantastic..best wishes Chris
Thanks Chris! Did you see the Tundra Tires, Flaps, and LED's I added to my J3 Cub UMX? It makes the plane like the Carbon Z Cub SS, only small ;) If you didn't, you might want to check it out, at your convenience...
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That thing sounds awesome! Great job Brian and "Camera Crew"!
Thanks Michael!
Thaaank you very much brian for the tipp, that you have to put on the EC-5 connector first🙏😂 and THEN weld it together😂 i also tried.... and tried.... but with your info it worked! I also have the Carbon Cub Z ss 👍🔥 Greetings from Switzerland🇨🇭
Nice! I'm excited for you - this plane is a BEAST!!!
I have the blue one. I adapted the 1/4 scale Cub gear on it with full rubber air tires. I flew it today in fact. Love that old Cub. Might need the red one, for a full hanger. Thanks for the review!
I was thinking of just getting the pneumatic tires, since these foam wheels, while light, seem kinda "bouncy" if you ask me...also the plane refuses to do anything but track PERFECTLY straight...which is tough with such a floaty STOL plane. I'm concerned I'll have a nose over rolling off, or back onto my "Runway" ;)
Are you running the 6" or the 4"???
4" - www.horizonhobby.com/45-wheels%3A-carbon-cub-15cc-p-han506515
6" - www.horizonhobby.com/big-wheels--6-p-dub600rv
...I bet either inflatable choice would be good, but just wondering what you're running
I've got the blue one.... need to pull the trigger on this one. Good flyin Brian Nice filming camera crew...👍👍
Brian, the Blue one was actually what I wanted...but they were all sold out... I definitely appreciated the upgraded mains on this V2 plane.
I enjoyed your video. I just finished the little brother to the Carbon Z, the Carbon Cub S2 1.3 m. Assembly wise they look very similar. Hopefully we'll get some good weather and I can try to fly mine. I've never flown an rc plane before.
The Carbon Z Cub 2.1m is a different beast, and I know you'll want one soon ;) It is amazing, but you'll LOVE the 1.3m in the mean time - Good Luck John!
There are four things we like to see:
1) unboxing
2) build video
3) radio setup | preflight checks
4) maiden flight; flight characteristics, tips, handling, &c
Thanks for this video; very nice, has well prepared me for my own Cub SS experience.
Sounds like I showed you what you need to see ;) BTW, this plane is WONDERFUL! Check you prop a few flights in (the spinner tightness) I had mine pull off in a hammerhead...but all is well, I just flew dead stick from the neighbors side and made a perfect landing, and my father-in-law watched the prop, spinner float down, totally undamaged ;) Had her flying in 3 minutes!!! I did experience some damage to my cowl, but HH helped me out on this.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks Brian; actually I already have an upgrade ordered for it-- wooden prop 16x7 , and chrome spinner (honestly I think Horizon should have done that anyway, but whatever. I was wondering about the prop coming loose; now I know. Tnx again.
Well done, my friend... Your film crew needs to be more engaged like in this of many videos... Thanks Megan... :)
She sometimes likes to hide behind the camera ;) LOL
Beautiful plane! Would love one when I have my own farm 😆
Why not get one BEFORE the farm??!??!
Watching a little more and yes your neighbor is so right such a small price for the little cub (which I started off with,) and think what you paid for your TX. I’m afraid to add up the cost off all my equipment let alone the planes. LOL got to go and watch more, whats 3 or 4 hours to finish this one!!!! Time to watch the build. Until the next break.
Later
Danny
LOL - 3.5 hours...did you really watch it all?!?!
I liked that airplane better than the other one you had I love the Bush plane’s even though it is a foam plane
This plane is really nice...but it's a baby compared to your 3/4 scale planes!
What radio system do you fly with Shane?
I want this big plane. Looks perfect to learn on. Love it. I have been watching so many of your videos and this big old plane is just awesome.
This is one of my favorites!!!
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or
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or
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Just bought this plane last night. Looking forward to putting it together today and hopefully seeing your radio set up sooner than later! Edit: well sooner came 45 minutes in haha. Seems like this fussy lil BNF plane should stand for build and fly rather than bind and fly.
Yep, it was a bit of a pain, especially with the main landing gear assembly, but honestly, you could do it in 2-3 hours without the filming part making everything take longer :)
I try to make links for each part of the build, see in the description, just for future reference ;) Thanks for watching - YOU WILL LOVE THIS PLANE!!!
Dude thanks so much for the awesome video. I love the dynamic between you and your wife. And "SS" should stand for super sport. Chevrolet brotherrrrrrr. God bless you guys!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Hey Brian awesome video, and camera crew, awesome filming. Your my new favorite tutorialist(if that’s even a word), what I really like is the way you show us how it flys first then you go into the build, and what’s really a plus imo, is the radio setup, all important info. Don’t know if you have made a video of the Flightline Foke Wolfe 190, but I’d love to see you make a video of that model. Thanks, and don’t stop making these videos. They really are great.
Great to hear! We aim to please, but there are a lot of suggestions and we try our best to keep as large a group of people happy as we can ;)
As for the Foke Wolfe 190, no, but I like the flightline planes, and would consider doing one.
If you want to see me review any items from MotionRC, please CALL them and ask them to work with me ;) I've been trying to break into their impenetrable defenses for years to no avail. I wanted to start out with the AL37, and they told me no :(..... They do their own "in house" marketing, and while they do a fantastic job of showcasing their planes, it sure DOESN'T give a real customer experience, in my personal opinion.
So, after hearing "no" about 5 times, I said, I'm too busy now to get what I have on my plate done, so I'll just work with their biggest competitors - their choice, definitely NOT mine...I'd work with them too any day. Maybe they'll come around when I get to half a million subscribers??? :)
Either way, theirs your "backstory" - hope you enjoyed that small dose of inside baseball.
Come back for more DankSkunk!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the quick reply Brian, that’s a real shame that Motion RC has such an attitude. They have some nice a/c that I’d love to see you highlight, I will ask them, but I doubt that I’d have any better luck. Oh well, I love Horizons products too, and you are doing a great job reviewing their products.
@@BrianPhillipsRC yep, they told me that they have their own people to review their products.🤔
And yes I’ll definitely be back.
Awesome flight Brian!!!
Thanks Todd! I feel like I'll have a better handle on it after a few more flights. This was my maiden, and I can't wait to get her flying again!!! Only flown her two evenings, and it was only for a short time...we've been clearing some timber, and just seems to eat time like crazy!
I'll put out some more footage with different battery choices soon, I hope you'll check it out ;)
Great job as usual, thanks Brian!
Thanks George!
Excellent filming Brian wonderful plane . I have it on order....can't wait. Your video's are the best!
You will LOVE it!
One tip - Recheck your prop adapter after the first couple flights, mind pulled off the end and I dead stick landed it with only a couple scrapes on the cowel, where the prop popped off...but then was flying in 10 minutes, and HH send a replacement cowel.
LOVE the plane!
This video is first class. The radio set up section was very helpful. Brian, Thank you very much.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Its just like the Timber but on steroids, nice flying and Megan, oops, I meant the camera crew did an amazing job filming......
I like this plane a LOT better than the Timber, but the Timber 1.5m is a GREAT plane and a GREAT Value....I just prefer the looks and flight characteristics of the Cub line. The Timber is almost a 3D plane...it's almost "too easy" if there's such a thing...you know?!?
Great video. Glad I bumped into it... 💖
Thanks! Glad you did too!!
Wow, Brian. Very nice, thank you.
You're welcome! and Thanks :)
I need to get my wife to watch this video. 36:54 to around 37:50ish pretty much sums it all up. I’m only in this 4 months with 7 planes (taking up a significant corner of the bedroom while I finish converting the garage to a maintenance and storage hangar) and she doesn’t understand where all this is headed. Clearly, I’m in the infant stages of the “small plane now” phase. I know 100% I’ll still be in this hobby 5 years from now, so I might as well show her what the future looks like. lol.
LOL - I remember those day where I didn't have to build a new house and buy 10+ acres of land to partially satisfy my new hording addiction :)
Greetings from Upstate NY. I feel like I know you, and Megan with her nice filming, after watching so many of your rc video builds & reviews. I appreciate that you include everything in your video's. Even if some feel that they're long, there are many good little tips that may help someone. Even if it's just knowing what to expect, i.e. that we might have trouble with the little nuts lol for the landing gear etc. or trying to find the hole, installing the rudder, (1:35:20) too funny!!! The top hinge gave me a little trouble to, but I knew what to expect from watching you guys. You both are an enjoyable team to watch and listen to!!!
I just got the Carbon-Z Cub 2.1m plane and am really excited to get it in the air, but may wait for thin ca, just ordered it so I can complete the rudder section. The rudder is on and I have medium ca, but not sure if I should use it or wait. Not sure the medium will flow into the ca hinge joint far enough. What do you think? Would you wait for the thin ca or use the medium? This will be my first plane in many years, and I want to do it right.
Got busy doing other things over the years and took a break from rc for the most part since around 2007. I've been in rc though since I built my first Associated car and Dumas boat in 1978. Since then I've built a bunch of boats and cars, glo, electric and gas with our son and daughter. Our friends would join us too. We've had many good hours together with our rc models (mostly cars and boats though). I had a modified Raptor 60 gas Heli too. It was big and I loved flying it! Got to where I could even cut the grass inverted if I wanted to lol. I like all rc, but prefer electric for the most part now, as it's powerful, clean and quiet (for the neighbors). We live in the country too, so noise isn't really a factor, as nobody is very close by. We run everything right here from our farm.
Since the lock down to lower the curve of the virus spread, I got up into the attic and got out some of our rc stuff. We're diving deep...back into rc again... I talked it over with my wife a couple days ago and got the green light to order my wife a radio & plane so we can fly together. I'll build, set up, help her learn to fly it and take care of her plane, batteries and radio. She's never flown a r/c model before, but I feel she'll do fine, we'll take our time and I'll get her very comfortable on the simulator first (I first got one before I built my helicopter, and that's how I learned so quickly how to fly it so well).
When in TN, my friend Mike (a pro Heli competitor), helped me when I was getting started with Heli's. He recommended highly to get a sim that used my radio & do every maneuver, and every set up change (i.e. changing to inverted v throttle & 30 deg pos and neg pitch for flying inverted etc) on the sim first, to get totally proficient with what ever you are learning, whether doing rolls, flips, engine failure landing etc on the sim first then start easy and do the trick with the model. I never crashed the Heli and I could do anything I wanted with it in less than 6 mos! Most damage I had was a several light tail strikes during landings in gusty wind that I shouldn't have been flying in, but that's it. Nothing big, less than $10 replacing tail rotor gears, just to be sure everything was good. I highly recommend sims for anyone too! The sim made it super easy! If used as a tool, it will save you lots of time and $$ not crashing while stretching your comfort zone boundaries and trying new set-ups. Learning new tricks with a heli can be challenging because the pilot must relearn the move whenever orientation is changed, later it becomes natural.
I got my wife a Spektrum DX6 6-Channel DSMX Transmitter and a Timber X 1.2m BNF Basic with AS3X and SAFE Select. Hopefully in a few weeks we'll be flying our first flights together! Can't wait!
Sorry guys this comment is so long. Didn't mean to be writing a little book lol.
Thanks again Brian and Megan/camera crew, for your awesome video's! Keep up the good work! You and your family stay safe and healthy!
Medium CA will work, but you'll have to work quickly.
Start by coating both sides of the FIRST HALF of the hinge material on the 3 or 4 hinges, then stick them into the tail section. Coat only the side you want to sick in there first. When you're ready, coat both the other sides of each of the 3 or 4 hinges, and force it in quickly. Thin CA is super easy, since you'll literally just wick the CA into the hinge material after the hinges are in place. Also, thin CA will break a bit easier at the folding point, but regardless of what CA you go with, you'll want to exercise the rudder a bit before you expect to fly.
Also, you can cheat a bit on the second "half"...just stick the tip into the fuse end tail section...about 1/8"...just so you don't have to line it up with glue on it...then you can coat both sides and push the rest of the way. If you do this, you'll want to have a q-tip or paper towel ready to quickly pull off the excess - QUICKLY - and on both sides. I'm kinda beating a dead horse here, and making it sound really hard, but it's not...just go for it, but be ready so you don't screw up your beauty there.
I would not wait, but it's not my plane ;) You can tell if it's gonna be secure when you're done...just tug on the rudder. If you screw it up, you'll just have to pull it out and try again. CA will ship off the hinge material. I can say with certitude, if I had a Carbon Z Cub sitting there staring me down, I'd build it ASAP!!!
We love flying from home. We got away with it in town, but knew that wasn't sustainable. When neighbors started to turn over, I could read the writing on the walls :( Now that we have this place, the only thing stopping us from flying would be our over-reaching, bloated, Federal Government...let's hope they're too busy to be regulating our toys for a few months at least!!!
I get the long winded thing...have you met me?!??! LOL
@@BrianPhillipsRC I was going to go ahead and glue it as you suggested, but I noticed two things that I hadn't before. One is that it's medium-thick not medium, and two, when I was about to open it (never opened yet) it says in red letters "To cure properly, this product must be used with PT-28 foam safe kicker." I've never used glue that required a kicker on a model yet. I've seen you use it though, and I will in the future.
Since I need to wait for the batteries anyway...it's very windy, but nice outside and I have a lot of yard work and other things that needs attending to anyway lol. I have kicker ordered with the glue too, so I'll be set later.
Thanks for your help Brian! Your reply isn't long winded, I appreciate the detailed instructions, less chance for an uh-oh!
I also have the blue one. Best flying aircraft of all I have. Ordering this one soon.
The weather has been very bad, so I haven't been able to fly it much, and it's killing me!!!
what's the wing-span of the blue one?
Hey Brian. I actually just picked up a Carbon Z cub SS along with a NX8 Transmitter, 5500mah 60c 6s Gens Ace lipo battery and the Spektrum S2100 smart charger at my local hobby store around 3:00pm (CAD) 2021/09/03. This all set me back just over $1,700 CAD after tax. I was watching your video on how to set this thing up. Everything was going great, until next thing I know a hole for where you attack the springs for the landing gear was missing, and the landing gear spring was bent. Very big disappointment for me. I have the receipts, and hopefully the hobby store can fix it up for free, as they sold me a defective product. Thanks, for making this video that I have been watching until 12:00am.
I hope they will make it right to you. And yes, that's a lot of cash to plop all at once, but when you see her in the air you'll quickly forget the woes of earning all that money. It will soon be overshadowed by the amazing flying experience.
Don't forget all but about $500-600 of it will be invested in future planes too, so just remember, it's WAY expensive at first, then you get addicted and stop caring how expensive it is - LOL ;) JK
Good luck, and thanks for being her with us!
Good plane and good first flight
Thanks Tina!
Great video Brian as always buddy thank you for sharing
It was my pleasure! I really like this one. WAY better value than the EC1500....just a lot better execution by Horizon Hobby in about every way.....EXCEPT for LED's - at this price point, and size there's really ZERO excuse for not having even simple Nav lights.
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lmao, when all the innuendos came up, all i could think was "i normally skip this part" lol
I am starting my self with the cud as well great plane.tryed to go to my Corsair ended badly running before walking.but like you i will get there thanks for your videos 👍🛩
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@@angelinesuman5371 hi there
@@richardoneill1965 How are you?
@@angelinesuman5371 all good thanks how the devil are you
@@richardoneill1965 I am Angeline Suman Dutch origin I live in here in France since a good time of my life I am in the 37 precisely in the city of vernou-sur-brenne and you?
Please dont get rid of the build portion :) all 3 of my planes (carbon cub 1.3m, A-10 EDF, and this Cub 2.1m) were built sitting here watching and following along with you :)
We don't have plans to do it, so long as a few people are still getting help from them. Thanks for sharing this with us Randy B!
Great video!! I was wondering you must live on good sized acreage to fly at home. Love that!!!
10 Acres, yes :) It's new to us, and we're learning like crazy!!! So much stuff to share my time with RC aircraft ;)
Hi Brian, Dont give up the build program , because you find out any thing that is not right with the build which i find very very helpful and i hope other people do as well, so please dont. Thank you.
I'm glad you think so, and totally agree this could be a valuable intel to others, but regrettably, most just want to see it fly.
Psssssssst...if you want to see it fly, just watch Horizon Hobby's stock video... this can be our little secret - LOL
beautiful bush plane!
It sure is! I love it!!!
Very Good Flight control ... you are certainly an Expert
from #Pakistan
Thank you so much! I've been flying for about 5 years now, and try to learn somehting new every time I fly!
Best video i found, really helped me! I do have on slight issue though, when i switch from AS3X mode to safe my rates and expo settings change back to default and is far to sensitive. How can i combat this?
Your EXPO and RATES can be controlled from another switch, separate from the SAFE Select switch that you designated...maybe that would be the easiest option to fix your issue? All you have to do is hold the sticks at the corners and then flip another unused switch back and forth five times (I think that's the right count)...and the controls will "dance" ...then you can change your EXPO and RATES independently.
All that being said, SAFE will greatly reduce the control authority you have when flying this and any other SAFE Select equipped plane. It's for this reasons that I rarely use SAFE, but if you need it, or want it...I don't mean to fault you. Everyone flying RC is at a slightly different spot ;)
Looks like a bigger version of the sport cub s2 👍
yes, exactly! It's obviously a lot more plane, and way more capable too, but it is modeled after a very similar plane.
Have one. Was able to get it second hand for 300 Canadian dollars. Winter is here so may not get to fly it this year but couldn't pass up on the deal. 😄
Put ski"s on it I fitted most of my planes for ski"s and fly year around.
Doug - This is the PERFECT winter plane!!! You can fly skis, water floats, or just use the stock tundra tires...she's up for anything!!! And you will kick yourself, if you wait till next year, when you realize how amazing it flies!
dave roche - Totally!!! I wonder if the Skis from my new EC1500 would work for this???
@@BrianPhillipsRC going to surge the horizon site. See what I can find...
Having an issue with mine. Throttle comes up but dies almost right away. 4s 5000 bat which it should run on fine according to horizon. Really want to get it out tomorrow. Doesn't matter if you bring it up slow or fast. Just like it runs out if juice...
No criticism Brian just putting it out there. Just sharing a little knowledge. I am a full size aircraft builder and test pilot as well as an rc flyer and builder so any time I can share a little knowledge it may just help someone. Just building a cub now for a friend and found a realy bad new servo in the wing so we will see how they go with warranty and replacement. I took a video and sent to them. It appears not to have any shaft bearings, wobbles at least 2-3mm. All the best.
If they don't take care of you, I'd be amazed, or you're being way too nice :) I get new parts from Horizon Hobby every time there's an issue....but you do have to be somewhat "firm" without being a total jerk, and even the occasionally difficult call with HH will yield results. I got into a pretty good yelling match with one of their reps, and by the time we both cooled down, they were replacing the plane. It's kinda like dealing with any warranty from a decently reputable company, they're gonna try to protect themselves, but this is EXCEPTIONAL service in the RC community ;)
If you don't get it taken care of, please come back and comment. I'm always keeping an eye out to see how these vendors take care of people (me included!)
Thanks for being a part of our little community here! Cool to have full scale guys in the crowd!
Ohhh-Yeahhh Babyyy! Good Thing You Spent The BIG Bucks For Them Tall Doors! You Almost Could Give Your Smallest Kid Rides On It!? Beats The Heck Outta Them Longgg Roll-Outs w/Them Jets & Power Gliders!!! LOL Nice Job Flyin Son... Amazing How You Can Fly That BIG Thang Soo Easy In A Park Size Area!!! Now Put A Reversing ESC In Her & Clear Min-Wax On It To Keep It Pretty Also!!! *Part 2 - Dang I Thought It Would Be A Cessna AG-Wagon For Crop Dusting! LMAO Thanks
LOL - I think if I were going to crop dust, I'd need some crop first :) LOL
You know I never did get that tractor...still keeping an eye out. The two we found were just enough more than I wanted to spend that I might have been convinced to spend about 10 X more - LOL!!!!! (That's PARTLY YOUR fault! ;)
Side note: Now every time I see a dump truck, of late, I'm thinking of the monthly payment for it LOL
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Hi Brian thanks for the video.. fun to watch as always...I started out with a blade msr heli
Soon realised that helis just weren’t for me then I bought a parkzone j3 cub rtf and was hooked
A dx6i was next..thought I’d never need space on a transmitter for10 aircraft .....how wrong was I
Best wishes Chris
I totally get it! I thought the DX8 was MAJOR overkill....it was my last radio ;)
As for the J3 Cub (UMX, I assume)...LOVE IT! Excellent little plane!
Waiting patiently for another flight!
ME TOO!!! I got up early hoping to fly, trees blowing too and fro. I've had three opportunities and flown on two of them...the third, I squandered because Esteban (my flying buddy and occasional cameo on my channel) "couldn't fly because he was going to run with his wife" - BAD EXCUSE!!! LOL....but I guess I could have held off on cutting down a HUGE stump, and flown myself. Lesson I relearned, when it's fall, and the weather's good....FLY!!!
Hi Brian! I really enjoy your Horizon, Carbon Z videos. Right now I'm flying drones but your videos and the Horizon videos may have caused there to be one of the Carbon Zs in my future. The only suggestion I could make is; at least with this video, if you had used a wireless or even a wired lapel microphone instead of the camera's mic, that would have eliminated the room acoustics (echo) and your narrative would have been much louder and more understandable. Nice work! David
This is an old video...we have since gone through TWO sets of lav mics and we're on our Third Revision of Lav mics, so you're advice has already been implemented ;)
Ok that plane is awesome!
Yeah! My thoughts exactly! WAY better plane for the money than the EC1500, if you ask me. It's just HUGE!!!
Great video! Although I would beg to differ on the points you made at 1:41:30 about not tightening the linkage on the control arm. I feel you should tighten the linkage, so the nut doesn’t come loose. The ball joint is there to create the movement for the linkage, not the bolt in the control arm.
Good point, but with a nylock, shouldn't back off, at least.
Brian Phillips true, I just tightened mine on my carbon z cub just to make sure
Hey, while you're at it - check the SPINNER is still tight on the prop shaft. I had mine come off mid flight - all is well, and dead stick landed without incident. We found and installed the spinner and prop (all in one piece) BUT I damaged the cowl when the prop popped off.
This is also why I was having vibration that came and went. Just a heads up :)
Brian Phillips thanks for the heads up!!
good god, that is not a manual, that is a whole 10 volume encyclopeida, brianitica.
LOL ;)
hi Brian, for your viewers ( as well as you ) I have a serious tip for proper propeller installation on the Cub, and I am posting my upgrade spinner and prop parts so that folks can easily get an aluminum (Chrome) spinner and beechwood prop (very classic) that will match the Carbon Cub SS.
First, the prop that comes with the model is NOT machined on the back side properly (off center, not deep enough) so that the prop is NOT really tight on the shaft (you will lose the spinner and prop!). The back side of the prop needs to be machined about 5mm in, the diameter of the outside collet shaft... so that when the prop is squeezed between the two serrated plates (to hold the prop) the collet is ALSO actually closing in tight on the motor shaft (words to the wise) !
Incidentally, I had to machine (hand, dremel tool) the back side of the beechwood prop also to get the aluminum spinner collect to seat properly into the prop.
Ok, I got the beechwood prop from Xoar International LLC (duh) and I got the aluminum spinner (chrome look) from eflite part no. EFLSP250. The amazon links are posted below:
www.amazon.com/XOAR-Electric-Airplane-Propeller-Blade/dp/B01AXOX9MS
www.amazon.com/flite-2-50-Aluminum-Spinner-Collets/dp/B001DJ4XDC
PS. The Cub SS BL60 motor shaft requires the 6mm collet; spinner comes with both 5mm and 6mm collets.
Yep, I HAD my spinner and prop come off. Luckily, I was able to bring her in for a dead stick landing...5 minutes later, I was up and flying again, but the cowl was damaged when the prop came off ;( Horizon sent me a replacement, which was very much appreciated.
As for the beach wood prop, it is beautiful!
I've been subscribed for 4ish years. You just keep getting better and better. I forgot we both taught ourselves to fly right about the same time and with the same plane. I ended up giving my UMX Sport Cub to a friend, so he could learn to fly. I still fly the hell out of the 1.3m Sport Cub and the UMX J3 Cub. I picked up the CZ Cessna about a mouth ago and have been really enjoying that big bird. I couldn't resist the urge any longer and just smashed the buy button on the CZ Cub, can't wait!
Side question, do you still have your Freewing 64mm A-10? I sold mine after just one flight with the new E-flite 64mm A-10. Anyways, keep it up!
Thank you Mike!!! You understand how far we've come! As for the Freewing 64mm - TOTALLY AGREE - and haven't flown it again, and probably won't now that I have a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better one. (Sorry, I think I forgot a few "much'es"). This plane is like 100 times more fun and easy to fly and powerful than the Freewing...which is why I NEED Eflite to release the F-14 they haven't been talking about [ever] so I can be satisfied, and will never need another plane (lie)... LOL
P.S. I have been working on comments for TWO days now, and I'm reminded, as we get a new "batch" of subscribers and a load of views from likely RUclips recommendations, how we always get a lot of pricks and dick holes that I get to deal with. I had to block THREE in one day - WTF! So very nice to have a long time subscriber make a kind remark - Thanks! It helps that you have been around to see the improvements we've worked out over the years, and have an appreciation for them...but some of these kids are such little bitches. If I talked like this to another kid, back when I was their age, I would have put on my ass...now they're just keyboard warriors, and the future LOSERS of society, unfortunately.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Unfiltered Brian is awesome! I hear you though! I'm in my mid 40's and don't have time for that shit. I'm also really into RC Crawlers. I know that the RC Hobby in general needs new people to survive, but it just seems that the more RTR ground based vehicles, or SAFE equipped air vehicles that come out, the more of the wrong kind of people get into the hobby. Before it used to be, "I just did a bad landing and broke my gear. I should really practice more." Now it's like, "These landing gear suck!" The same kind of thing happens in the Crawling world, but replace gear with axle housings. They use it in a way or at higher speeds than what it was designed for and them blame the manufacture when something breaks. Shit's crazy. Keep doing your thing!
Yeah, totally agree. It's too bad. We need to get as many people into this hobby as possible to make three things happen...
1) Drive down the price
2) Improve the technology
3) Build a larger group to keep representation against an ever-growing government bureaucracy that wants to inject itself into every aspect of our lives!!!
...it's totally disgusting that the last item needs to be on there, but it DOES - we need to have a larger collective voice, and presence as we area forced to lobby to keep freedoms like the ability to fly a plane for enjoyment.
I heard the mini-apprentice would be a really good one for me to get for beginner. i really wanted a Carbon Cub-Z (you know, the big blue one, i mean really huge one) but maybe the mini apprentice is the one for me.
Yes, the mini apprentice OR the 1.5m apprentice would both be great choices!
RADIO SETUP SECTION is super, super useful! Lotta thanks from Germany. Did you keep those settings (in 2nd video)?
BTW: Your F-switch philosophy ("wanna switch quickly and big time D/R/Expo if ever") turned out to be an "advice deluxe".
I'm so glad you were able to apply what I found to be helpful. I always try to show the whole setup, since that's where people struggle the most. I'm still learning, almost every time I setup a new model.
I kept the second video settings, yes, but as for flying this beauty...it is an absolute joy!
I’m glad your very happy with your new airplane buddy I can tell your excited about your new toy lol I would be to
I'm VERY excited, and it's a great plane. They're not always great....but when they get to this price point, I kinda expect greatness - LOL :)
That airplane is awesome. I'm getting one because i seen this video!
Nice vidoe
AWESOME! You'll LOVE IT!
Very detailed videos. Excellent. Mine will be here in a day or two. Did you try any 4s batteries? The insinuations are great. You two are just like hanging out with good friend.
Thanks Jeff! I didn't try 4S. I've only ever used 6S. This plane needs power to perform, so my recommendation would be to stick to 6S if possible. Also, you may need to reprogram the ESC if you want to run it on less than 6S lipos.
Well, I decided to buy it TODAY finally.
The price is not low for a EPP aircraft, though the aircraft is good equipped.
Because I have the E-flite CESNA 150 2,1 m already (Cessna with good opinion of users), so that one should be also mine (?)
Thank you for your video. I have to watch this to the end (?). Very interesting material (as always) and another point of view.
You WON'T be disappointed! This plane flies excellent! It's a bit of a pain to assemble, but that part is short lived, and then you get to bask in it's beauty - on the ground and in the air!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank you Brian for your answer.
Carbon-Z SS Cub is mine from today :-)
Best regards
Hi Brian, thank you and your camera crew for these excellent and informative videos! It was actually the reason I purchased one of these (and I made sure to use the links you provided ;) I'm thoroughly enjoying my carbon z cub as well, and I also have a Spektrum NX8 (and the same 7,000mah 6S battery you have in this video). I can't figure out how you get battery information and other temperature readings on the NX8 while flying. Please help?! Thanks so much!
If you're on the NX8, and you V2, you will get all telemetry data. If you have a V1 (orange and white, first one...not the oldest blue and white - that will definitely NOT have full telemetry)
You click the scroll wheel and go down to telemetry, and click on AUTO-Config, but it should have already done that when you bound your plane.
I assume you've tried to scroll to the right on the screens? That's where it all is, if you weren't aware.
I was going to watch the entire video until I looked at the length of it. (Crap 3hours and 38 minutes) but that is good I enjoy your videos. I was going to watch it but had to stop, no time right now. I will watch it all with no fast forward. I bought the Turbo Timber awhile back and love it along with other timbers, as I’ve mentioned in the past. I want the Carbon-Z SS but need to wait. ($$$$$$$).talk later
Danny
Danny from Tennessee
Common Danny - you've failed the challenge!!! LOL, JK - I put out these super short videos for people without cable or satellite TV...this way you can watch every day for like 3 or 4 days in a row - JK. I don't really expect that anyone will watch ALL of it, but just follow the links in the description to see the parts of the process they'd like to see.
@@BrianPhillipsRC that's what sucks I watch it down to the last second. And I don't have a boring life. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment. But fun to watch.
Damm I glad I don’t drive a HONDA CIVIC !!!!!
Hi Brian yes I watched the umx j3cub mod video when you first did it....seems a long time ago now lol..and I fitted tundra tires to my cub after watching how to do it ...I have seen wireless nav lights now how fast things move on thanks again best wishes Chris
Great! It's so hard to keep track of who's seen what ;)
I guess with a big plane, like this, wireless nav lights might be a possibility.
Awsum flight review bro...
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Gracias amigo
Danata
I like how you said your a thumb flyer , personally and i think you might agree.... we learned to fly on old futaba/jr/airtronics 4ch radios , we didnt have swtches , thats why i think we fly with our thumbs , then when the technology changed people started learning/pinching to get to all the switches. Atleast thats how i view it
I make fun of people who use pincer grip...but they probably make fun of me ;) Whatever gets you flying, right? :)
Which switch do you usually use for retracts if you also have safe select set up? i.e. Viper.
I'm not a pincer either. I like thumbs.
I use A for gear, then I divert SAFE Select to the F key, straight up from the throttle stick (right???)
As for my layout, I do B for flaps, and always do it as close to the same as I can. My brain can only handle small and completely necessary changes ;)
So on the landing gear bolt and nut but the bolt from the back so the nut is facing towards the front that way you can use the allen wrench pretty common sense.
Would you please put your thought(s) into a sentence or a group of sentences? I can't understand what you're saying, since there isn't any punctuation.
@@BrianPhillipsRC lmao well if you need punctuation .. then i rest my case commen sense is out of the window. Why would you. Face the bolt towards the center of the landing gear?? Instead of out on the open end where you can use the allen key🤦♂️🤦♂️. I've been flying 14 plus years and have 3 turbine jets and 2 of the carbon cubs and hand full of other planes.
Good job 👍
Thanks! Glad to see you around :) I saw you over on another channel the other day, but didn't say hi (I was being anti-social LOL)
“If you have to zoom to see your nuts, your In trouble” 🤣🤣
-Brian Phillips.
LOL - Very nice ;)
You should bind your airplane first before attaching the push rods to the horns that way the servos will balance out beforehand and you will have proper alignment
I'm not sure what you're talking about. They (speaking of control surface positions) will go wherever they go, regardless of when you bind the plane. Once you've got the radio system setup and bound, then you'll see where things end up.
Maybe I misunderstood your comment?
No acreage, but the club has an acreage-- and they have a tractor, and they keep the field mowed, so... yeah.
:)
enjoy
It really is a beautiful airplane.
I totally agree! It's not perfect, but I REALLY love this plane! Some day, if I every have a few million bucks tucked away I want to get a REAL Carbon Cub SS with glass panel ;) (This is a nice way of saying I probably won't have one - LOL)
100000 Subscribers 💥⚡️✨ Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally there!!! Thanks ;)
hi Brian, got an idea for you, you might think of doing a receiver upgrade video for the Cub SS using say the AR637T (6) chn receiver with telemetry; if you do this for Spektrum, you might even get a free receiver out of it.
I have the DX8 controller, which shipped with firmware 2.0; telemetry requires updating to firmware 2.05 and then of course binding to a telemetry receiver like the AR637. So the video idea would be the firmware update, receiver installation, and controller model copy and tweak from "Cub SS AR636" to "Cub SS AR637T" and then cover the telemetry config options in the transmitter|controller.
... just an idea; I got it figured out, but it took me a couple of hours of study and experimenting.
PS. my beechwood prop came (beauty) 16x7 gorgeous!
PSS. still looking for a chrome spinner I like....
I want to see the prop! I bet it's BEAUTIFUL!!!
As for the video about upgrading the Rx...there would be WAY too much swearing, and throwing things, possibly violence (against the computer, or myself) ...so, no thanks ;)
...but seriously, would be a great 4-5 hours video, but my patience, as you know is very wide and deep for these planes, but I can only handle so much ;)
nice plane I love it
Me too! Thanks!!!
Hi Brian. My CZC ailerons flip to the left when I test out failsafe mode. According to my Spektrum programmer app and cable the failsafes are correctly set to SAFE mode for aileron, elevator and rudder, and HOLD for the others. It's like the plane will spiral to the left if it loses TX. Did yours do this too?
I never tested it, but sounds like you have SAFE programmed in to a switch that might not have been in the correct condition to turn ON when the FAILSAFE activates. Can you double check on this.
I just bought this airplane, she's a Beaut!!
Totally is! Glad you got one Mike!
Seems like a plywood back on the motor mount with machine screws and nuts on the back would be better
I don't disagree, but the plastic assemblies might be a bit more stiff?
Ok Brian, I'm almost convinced. (you steered me here; away from going big on a war bird) I have only question for this one. Will you add marker lights to this one? If so will there be a video? My NX10 seems like it would be over kill for this plane. LOL
Your NX10 will be PREFECT for every plane you get in the next 5-10 years!!!
As for marker lights...I probably wont be added in them, but you could. I have several videos showing HOW I did it, but I don't fly my bigger planes at night too often.
Hi Brian what do you think about the power plant on the carbon z- 60 amp esc- is that a little low with 6s? How are the servos? Thanks! Have you heard of any issues with servos or motor or esc?
It's good - I've never had any issues, and my servos have been great, BUTTTTTT....many people fly the CRAP out of their Carbon Z Cub, and they pay the price for it ;) I'm pretty nice to it, except for hitting power lines and keeping flying, and losing props while flying, and keep flying, and other non-sense....maybe I'm also no "nice" to mine....
Oh well, still running STRONG ;)
Did you adjust the rudder during build? I experience that my plane hasn’t the same (wide) movement in the rudder, despite following build instructions. Using a DX8 Gen2 transmitter, fyi, with 2.05 firmware on it.
If I don't show it, then I didn't do it...but I honestly can't remember. If you want more rudder, move the clevis to the inside hole on the rudder, just know that you might see some oscillation at very top end of speed range due to AS3X slightly over-correcting...BUT I don't see mine doing it.
Brian Phillips thank you!
Hey tell her to lay off the Honda Civic drivers 😂. I love my car. Awesome video. Look forward to watching future ones to come!
I will ;)
Got the blue carbon ss 2.1 cub.
Floats came with it. Some parts but not sure if it’s all there. You have a video showing putting the floats on this? Thanks for all the great videos
We have the floats, but we haven't got a great option for flying from water at the moment. If and when we do it, we will definitely share!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Just did my best to figure it out and it went smoothly. Did my first water takeoff and landing with ease. Thanks again for all the help. Looking forward to your pontoon video one day. 🤜🤛
Nice hellow from Austria - Vienna !!! , oh MEN,i love&live RC , all of it !! At Time i work in my Hotliner... but- i have See Horizon and a cool Man Talks about RC! Ohh ,have to show! I love it ! Nice Plane ! Huuuuge ! Have the Ul19 ,the Hydroplane from Horizon & Pro Boat ! With 120A , but i have it upgradet to 180A , Ohh men... this Boat goes wild. I like Horizon !!! At Next, ...a JET!! Thx for your videos, i like them ! YOUR Infos are Great, thx ! ✌🇦🇹👏👏👏🇺🇸🤙
I'm so glad you're enjoying the videos! Thanks for stopping by!!!
Brian, you said you'd have alot of problems on the adapter if you used solid core wire. Just wondering what those problems might be.
For starters, you wouldn't be able to get solder to hold it, since there's be a very small amount of surface area for the solder to contact, in comparison to a fine multi strand wire. Additionally, it would be STIFF!!! You could maybe use it for a straight piece, but you'd have to overcome the solder surface area issue.
You sold me on the twin otter now you've sold me on this one too... lol
Good, you'll LOVE them both! The Carbon Z Cub 2.1m is going to make you fall out of your chair, it's so awesome!!!
Hey, Love the vids... Also, love how you refer to "Camera Crew". You're eventually going to get smacked for that, ya know.
This is a lasting and well understood "inside joke" ;)
If that's gonna get me smacked, I need to stop a lot of other things first!!! :)
Hey Brian on the carbon cub 2.1 mm my motor is just a little loose and when I full throttle the plane the spinner prop bolt and the orange thing comes off what can I do to fix the that
You need to TORQUE that thing down WAY MORE! You're gonna cut your hands off!!!!! Make sure she's SOLID. This is a huge safety issue...please get it fixed ASAP.
What about when the plane is inverted the pressure on the clevis pins and struts is compression? That is why you have jury struts to stop the main struts from bending. Also when the plane is in negative g's no strength in the struts. Re; inverted loops etc.
I understand what you're saying, but not exactly sure if this is a question or a comment.
The wings are VERY strong. To be totally honest, I've never given it a second thought.
My only issue with this plane, to date, is that the prop came off in flight!!! I landed without incident....dead stick, as expected. My father-in-law watched the prop and spinner come down, and I got it and put it back on, tightened everything and was flying in like 5-10 minutes. This was kinda "my bad" for not noticing the collet had loosened, but kinda a HH issue in that it wouldn't have loosened that quickly, if you ask me...BUT I was hammer-heading the plane when it happened, and only very minor damage to the cowling...which Horizon replace for me at no cost - way to go horizon!...so I guess, lesson learned.
I LOVE this plane. It's a solid platform. The only thing I don't like is the fact that you kinda have to load the lipo in the "chop zone"...but they did install a switch, but the switch in also in the "chop zone" - LOL....otherwise, I love the plane. In fact, my only complaint is that it's TOO easy to fly - LOL :)
Honda CRV. ok, its a Civic chassis... but planes fit really well in the CRV; with the rear seats down.
:)
LOL - thanks for the mention ;) I thought maybe you'd have to put the left wing out the left side and the right wing out the right side and hope the FAA didn't notice your illegal ultralight - LOL
@@BrianPhillipsRC I will have to disassemble the wings from the fuse, but I've got all kinds of room, even for a couple of giant scale planes ( planning on the Cessna too ).
By the by, I picked up a telemetry receiver that will match nicely to my DX8 ( or your DX18 ) and DOES NOT need a separate telemetry module (just the receiver). So my Cub SS is getting that after I check out the maiden flight characteristics on the AR636.
Thanks again, Brian; I really like your channel-- say hi to the "camera crew" and tell her I think she does an awesome job!
Lol ( nut sack)
Love your videos very educational and amazing flying !
Thanks! I'm glad you're learning all about human anatomy ;)
Great video i want one:)
It is a GREAT plane, but it's also very GREAT....as in HUGE! ;)
Which 6S pack is best 30C, 50C or 100C? Ive had a lot of puffing issues in the past and my packs were warm after flights. Im guessing that means my C rating wasnt high enough.
The 100C is the "best", but I don't know if I buy the added value...higher C rating is a better battery. Larger leads, more protection for cells, bigger connectors, etc.
@@BrianPhillipsRC i figured 50C would be sufficient
Dude u remind me of Jack Black so much... Love ur vids man!!! Do u have a video on the new FMS Futura V2? Just assembled mine and setting up rates... looking for some flight tips on it...
Thanks! I don't have anything about the Futura, sorry!!! I have a LONG list of planes to review right now, just need to get MotionRC or Horizon Hobby on board with sending them to me so I don't go bankrupt ;) (LOL...but really...)
More like a young Jon Favreau 👍👍