He seems very friendly and jolly and i understand that Usher's comment can be hurtful bec it is the truth however, he should also be mindful that he went the "dumb and trendy" way even if he has legit talent and this opens him up to criticism. He should have explained himself or just ignore the comment since he knows the truth. There is really nothing to be depressed about. He knows that he needs that autotune style to standout and get the kaching! Same strategy with Paris Hilton who went the dumb blonde way even if she is really not stupid. We are judged by our output
@@thex-man2153 that's exactly what i said yesterday to my boss and idol, his words has an enormous effect on me, he literally sent to depression in the last 4 months, yesterday i confronted him and i hope he would really change because i need that job and i need his support in this difficult time
His heart is so genuine. Autotune was his niche and that's all. He is truly comfortable in his skin. I love that he is transparent which means he is winning. 💙
@Amateur Decorating Like A Pro - so a gimmick in which he really can sing while others who can't are bashed by music people. Gimmicks aren't bad or like JLo she dances and shakes her booty that's her thing. Please just give me a singer that makes me feel something real. Not a machine ~
Some people can't stand when they aren't in the spotlight anymore. WE DON'T CARE BOUT THEM MICHAEL JACKSON MOVES ANYMORE!! Usher was just hating on that man.
People hated the autotune sound, and felt that Tpain was the perpetrator, even thought autotune is a modern version of an old effect used on vocals since the 1970s. Usher should know more about music history, and if he really needs to blame someone for making autotune popular, he should blame Cher lol! Do you remember ''do you believe in life after love''
i was just gonna say this; almost everything usher made after Here I Stand was pop bubblegum autotuned garbage. literally sounds like every other singer now
He’s not calling T Pain bad. T pain was a good singer and auto tune propelled him higher. But, he made it more acceptable and people with NO talent unlike T-Pain who has talent started using auto tune as a crutch which ruined music
He was never your friend! The fact that your “friend” woke you up so that you can go to him because *he* wants to talk to you, please!!! He never loved you. What makes him so important!
Wow shows he's the bigger man and he even said no disrespect to usher. Their hate is anger of his success. T-Pain AND Usher were on my playlist back then; we all knew it was just his style, the auto tune didn't sound like crap because it's backed up by that great singing. Do your thang T-Pain.
T pain is not the bigger man he called out something that man people have complained about with other artists that autotune has been used too much since T pain. Usher just said what many fans of music ended up saying at the same time.
@@trevon_thedragon4034 That's like hating Steph Curry for people chucking up more threes in the modern NBA. It ain't T-Pain's fault he knew how to use autotune and everyone else didn't. Usher a fool for that one.
Usher is lame af for that. T pain studied autotune and had a purpose. Also t pain can actually sing and rap and he's humble and respectful also funny too.
@@she4dastreets532 it's not t pains responsibility. People like it and support those other ones. They're the problem. That is not part of his intentions.
@@lunamoon4880 I highly doubt that. Tpain used auto tune the right way. They copied and made it sound terrible. On top of that tpain was inspired by old blues music that had a similar sound to auto tune .
@@lunamoon4880 not sure why people are supporting auto-tune. T-pain and lil wayne are the reasons why hiphop/rap/rnb is in such a huge mess right now...
@Tawanna Smith Roger Troutman is pretty much the blueprint of West Coast rap. Roger is a fucking Legend. To be honest Auto tune certainly didn't help R&B but please please don't compare him to Roger.
When someone you love and trust tells you that you aren't good enough. It hits you hard no matter how strong you are. Just like your parents telling you that you are a loser.
He didn't call him a loser. He said that an action he was doing was having negative consequences for REAL artists. He had every right to say it. And T-Pain would not have been hurt if it weren't true. Everyone needs to learn how to receive criticism. Everyone can do something wrong. People need to get over it.
@@purplepheasant4776 he never said that he called him a loser he said it’s like the same feeling as your parents saying you’re a loser someone close to u not believing in u or saying you’re a failure
@@aiden-xc5fd I know he said it's like when you are told you aren't good enough or a loser but Usher didn't called him a bad singer. He called out some of his musical choices. It's like if you burn food and your parent says "hey you burned the food." vs "You are a bad cook." Usher told him that he burned the food because it was true. T-Pain did some stuff that adversely affected the music industry and he is still paying the consequences of his actions by not being considered a real singer.
@@purplepheasant4776 he still had no right to imply that T-pain isn't a "real" artist. He was rude, period! A friend can speak the truth in love, without sounding like a hater.
As much as I once respected Usher, this was so wrong of him to say. If anything T-pain changed the game and Usher's time was pretty much coming to a close in the mainstream. Man found his niche at a time when everyone was doing the same thing and, as he said, it made him stand out. Smh. All of this feels like the kinda thing a fair weather "friend" would say when all this time they've had the spotlight and, the moment their "friend" sees success, they need to tear them down.
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc I see it more like record labels pushing for formulated success and planting their plants who live off clout and payola killed this industry.
@@austinfrombustop 6ix9ine tops charts to this day. Since 2010, he didnt have the impact T-Pain had in the music industry. And he still has the same impact specifically in R&B on artists like Bryson, 6lack etc. I'm not denying the fact that he topped charts. But the impact T-Pain had since 2010 is no where near Usher's.
@@ad.808 Uhhh Tpains impact was pretty short lived. Every male R&B star starting with Chris Brown has modeled their career after Usher. Justin Bieber who’s the biggest male pop star in the world has modeled his career off of Usher. Are you sure you wanna get into the conversation of having impact?
tpain really can sing, he's got that talent, the matter of he's using auto tune is his own style, he just wants to make something different, something special, kind of music that has his signature, so why is it called messing up with music? smh usher just put himself in a bad situation because of the simpliest thing he could've possibly done, think before you say it man lol
Usher making a comment about auto-tune would normally not garner any public conversation or hatred. He's one person. With one opinion. And he's certainly not the only person with an opinion about auto tune.
Exactly. T-Pain has proved he can sing beautifully (anyone who doubts it can watch his performances on The Masked Singer). It’s annoying how so many artists RELY on autotune and yet they are still successful even though they cannot actually sing.
The dude really has vocals, he just uses auto tune as his signature. Don't take shit from Usher, this coming from a dude who don't tell women he got the herps.
A lot of people use auto tune and fans love it, Britney Spears and other pop artists heavily auto tune themselves. Music is subjective, people like what they like. I don’t know why Usher felt like he’s the music gatekeeper. 🤣🤷🏻♀️
If a "friend" says anything negative about your work despite its success, that person is not your friend. That person is an energy vampire aka a narcissist.
But usher Is right though autotune is fake as hell if I'm listening to an artist in autotune form how will he sound when he is singing live autotune come on I want to hear your real voice not some computer generated shit
T Pain can sing without autotune though. Usher should concentrate on the fact that he’s had no musical growth in over 20 years. This grown man with a wife and kids keeps making music like he’s competing with Chris Brown instead of someone his big age. Fvck Usher. I cannot stand him.
Was wondering what happened to him. He never fell off just stopped. Never knew why. I may be a hypocrite bit I liked some of his music but singing should be left to only singers. Props to Usher for confronting him face to face.
Man I have such good memories when I think of t pain. Life was simple, grandparents were here, I was hitting home runs on the baseball field, my grades were actually good, everything was just so simple and good. T pain has brought all of us so much joy. It saddens me to hear about this, but we all go through it.
TPain has such a talented voice without the auto-tune. When he added auto-tune, it was his touch, his “it” factor that made his music catch on. Mariah has her high pitch notes. Usher has his exceptional dance skills and nice voice. That’s their “it” factor. Every artist needs an “it” factor, or else they are just another singer, dancer, etc. TPain realized auto-tune was not done previously and took advantage of that. Don’t be mad at that instead applaud. It bothered Jay so much that he dedicated a song to it. 🤣 TPain was a pioneer in my opinion.
Who cares if it was auto- tuned??! His songs were lit ! Some of the best tunes from back when I was in college. Love you T-pain. Screw what the haters say and just do you.
Imagine bitching at someone for something and giving them depression, then turning around and doing the very thing you scolded someone else for. Hypocrisy in some people knows no bounds
Sounds like Jay Z and Usher were pissed that T-Pain was killing everything and featured on everybody's song when he was doing his thing. Jay-Z makes Death to Auto Tune then right after that Kanye West comes out with an album with nothing but auto tune on it and Jay-Z says nothing.
But that's not the case. Jay-Z directed DOA to rappers who were starting to sing more than rap. That's why he said,"...get back to rapping, you're T-Paining too much."
Bruh he just co signed the migoes avalanche.... Jay z I mean. Not that the song is garbage nor the artist but facts are facts he's contradicting....Devils advocate....I guess people got the right to change their mi nd about ish .
T. Pain is literally a genius, and Usher needed to understand that music/creativity has many dimensions. Also, Roger Troutman and many others before him used the vocoder -- including Stevie Wonder. To say that he messed things up for singers is basically to not know music history and appreciation. It is crazy that the dude who came out with Justin Bieber would tell T. Pain that he "messed things up for singers." lol
Usher was talking about real as in the context of that hip hop stuff, i think, like they say new wave singers like talking heads arent real singers in hip hop i think even though they are a but hip hoppy
He was talking about using autotune completely. Autotune existed to tweak or enhance artist not to be their voice which is why most of the public didn't know what autotune was until T-Pain came out.
@@carlurbananimals Yep, most didn't know what autotune was until T-Pain. He overused it over the entire song. You used to have to have a recognizable voice in Hip Hop now all the new ppl think they are singers and guitar players. Lil Wayne, Post Malone, and more. Smh. Everybody want that summer jam until they hear it live at Summer Jam and face is frowned up wanting a refund. What happened, I thought you loved that song. Sorry, no refunds.
One it came from someone he considered a friend and also someone he looked up to.The way Usher went about it certainly didn’t help either. It wasn’t just Usher either. T-Pain’s managers at the time was doing the same shit
This is crazy, even if he is using auto tune, this guy is an excellent r&b singer. Without auto tune he has a great voice. Why can't people just be happy for successful ones...we do not care about T-Pain using auto tune or his real voice. U R A GREAT, WONDERFULL AND AMAZING SINGER AND WE MISS U T-PAIN !!!!! LUV FROM Sénégal
Fucking LOVE him for this. So genuine, and humble, and not trying to put up any front. I don't even know much about him but this video has gained my like and respect for him in less than a minute. And how fucked up of usher to say that btw
T-Pain made some mega hits and was the soundtrack to much of my 20s in the club. I still bump his songs when feeling depressed. Not so much Jay-Z nor Usher. There’s always a critic, do it for the millions of people who appreciate your music.
I love them both but that was such a cruel thing to say to somebody! I don’t care that T-Pain is defending it, it was a careless thing for Jay-Z and Usher to do. Bullying!
The nerve!! He was probably just jealous because at that time his career was in free fall. Nowadays you don't even hear about usher and the little music he puts out goes nowhere.
@@deepstate3358 They never said that T-Pain has been more successful than Usher. They just pointed out the hypocrisy. The fact that Usher has collaborated with artists who rely on autotune is even more evident of that fact.
I will NEVER understand why so many ppl hate T-Pain he's always been talented, whether singing or rapping or producing. You still have to know how to sing with it. Ppl tend to hate what they don't understand 💯💯💯
T-pain is putting on a bit of an act. Everyone got tired of him being on everything, that’s what happened. This Usher thing is immaterial. Usher’s frkn right, anyway. You don’t understand unless you’re a singer from a different time.
@@TheSingingMystic87 I think T-Pain took it wrong. At that time everybody was using auto tune and you didn’t have to really be talented to make it. From Usher being from a different era and extremely vocally blessed I can understand what he mean. Pain doesn’t need auto tune but he made it his thing so he gets a lot of the bud for it being over used
It came from someone that A he looked up to and B someone he considered a friend and C someone he actually did a song with. It was never released though. It was the song they were going to do with Michael Jackson
When you walk in the club back in 00s hearing tpains song or even just in a house party playin his song, even to this day it still be bumping. L.E.G.E.N.D
He didn't mess up anything. He's never needed autotune. He only used it because he enjoyed it. I'm so glad he won the masked singer because he was able to show everyone his true voice
I get chills every time I hear him sing in his natural voice. He missed the DMs for a reason…to work on HIM!! He looks to be in a good place now. You never know what a person is going through.. words have power!
@@whatson1louis497 yeah T-pain pioneered auto tune but people stole his swag and are just doing it because they don’t know how to make music without it.
@@CoCoMoVitt Exactly. Auto tune has been around for a long time and was originally designed to artificially "tune" slightly off notes or pitchyness that a singer may have had trouble adjusting too. It was usually turned way down to a point where it was not noticeable. Artists like Cher and T Pain have it up far enough to actually get a melodic sound with their voice. The rapper Future turns it to the extreme. Lol!
Tpain is famous in America, Usher is famous world wide & a R&B music legend. I can't even remember one Tpain song but theres loads of Usher songs I can remember
@@alejandraolvera7415 music has died. That's why Bruno Mars is thriving because his taking ppl back to the old music & ppl love it. This new crap is not what ppl want, its forced on them because it's all radio, tv & social media advertise & play constantly. So they become used to it .
@@lushtv7155 that's your opinion. Lol on tpain only known in america. You are stereotyping your opinion on everyone. That's the thing about music and genres there is plenty for everyone to enjoy not just what you think everyone likes.🤷🏼♀️
Well he’s right it did set him apart from others and while others have abused auto tune, I don’t think that’s his fault because he used it for a purpose and it wasn’t to make an awful sounding voice sound good
I know the difference between a talk box and autotune. However the triatic cord is tampered with using both units. The problem is you have absolutely no idea who you are talking to. So trying to correct me about anything studio music and score related. You should let it go.
Usher was just being a negative old head. 😂 I have been guilty of this when new djs came to the scene with just laptops and no crates. Music and culture evolves we just need to embrace it and add our own touch to it or just let it go all together.
@Nancy Samuelson Usher and his ex wife are VERY close. She even clapped back at Wendy for saying Usher took the kids away from her. You can look it up. Obviously they had their issues but they are close family/friends now.
the sad part about the whole thing is that I absolutely love usher and his music. and I was very disappointed that he even said that to t-pain. did it really bother him that much that he had to personally tell him that?? oh well, jokes on usher tho because t-pain showed the world he did have a voice. this is a perfect example of CHOOSE YOUR WORDS WISELY!
T-Pain always seemed like a genuine dude. Can’t help but like him.
I agree...genuine and non-problematic.
I agree
True
Great song💗💗💞💞💞💞
He seems very friendly and jolly and i understand that Usher's comment can be hurtful bec it is the truth however, he should also be mindful that he went the "dumb and trendy" way even if he has legit talent and this opens him up to criticism. He should have explained himself or just ignore the comment since he knows the truth. There is really nothing to be depressed about. He knows that he needs that autotune style to standout and get the kaching! Same strategy with Paris Hilton who went the dumb blonde way even if she is really not stupid. We are judged by our output
Mental health is no joke. People tearing people down just to make themselves better is sick.
True
@Kwesi Hewitt The mind is a powerful place bro. If your idol said that shit to you I’m sure you would be upset too.
@Kwesi Hewitt shut tf up
@@thex-man2153 that's exactly what i said yesterday to my boss and idol, his words has an enormous effect on me, he literally sent to depression in the last 4 months, yesterday i confronted him and i hope he would really change because i need that job and i need his support in this difficult time
@@HamzaAzouziGrimchou you deserve better. It’s best to go into business for yourself. Saves you a lot of heart ache and pain.
His heart is so genuine. Autotune was his niche and that's all. He is truly comfortable in his skin. I love that he is transparent which means he is winning. 💙
“Truly comfortable in his skin” 💀
AN 111¹1¹¹¹11@@rafaelreyes9
Baby Roger Troutman had us shaking the ground with the voice box bka auto-tune
@Amateur Decorating Like A Pro - so a gimmick in which he really can sing while others who can't are bashed by music people. Gimmicks aren't bad or like JLo she dances and shakes her booty that's her thing. Please just give me a singer that makes me feel something real. Not a machine ~
Exactly that's his thing!
Usher: You fucked up music for real singers
Usher then goes on to record “OMG” which heavily uses auto tune.
Righttttttt
And remember when usher stole stage time of green day band in a certain music festival.
Lol Slum 45 this is an underrated comment
Usher also signed the Biebster, who uses auto-tune religiously. Very hypocritical of Usher to say that to T-Pain.
Some people can't stand when they aren't in the spotlight anymore. WE DON'T CARE BOUT THEM MICHAEL JACKSON MOVES ANYMORE!! Usher was just hating on that man.
It doesn't matter what anyone says..T- Pain can sing. Love him ❤
Facts!!💯
Yes dear
Facts
I agree 😍👏
@MyMy Haley He was on the masked singer and.he can sing
It’s crazy because t-pain can really sing without auto tune and he seems like a good man
No... He still can't sing 😂
EXACTLY!
He's a chill guy I've listened to some of his podcasts.
@@abbieC88 You tone deaf or what?
He is. He also seems smart. I saw a different side to him when I saw his television show about businesses.
T-pain didn’t mess up music, he revolutionized it.
lol sure
The fact that he can really sing but still choose to use auto-tune means that he amplified his sound.
This is It.
@@BigSocksProds lol sheep
Facts!!
So ironic to hear that a man that has brought so much joy to millions with his talent, has battled depression. We love t-pain!!
Just saw the history of how T-Pain was one of the most bullied artist, just for being real. He deserves the success he has.
T-pain didn't fuck up music
Facts he made it better in my opinion
Usher didn't actually say that T-Pain f*ked up music; he said that AUTOTUNE F*ked up music....and there's a difference.
@@MakeWay4CJ I didn't understand that
@@FOEDMAN lol nah not better at all
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc that's why I said in my opinion we see int think alike fam but much love to ya
Usher was hatin’ 🤣…T-pain fans knew he could sing without auto-tune! Appreciate his creativity!
I lost respect on usher watching this..🤷♂️.got put food on table..T-pain F Usher do your thing boy…
People hated the autotune sound, and felt that Tpain was the perpetrator, even thought autotune is a modern version of an old effect used on vocals since the 1970s. Usher should know more about music history, and if he really needs to blame someone for making autotune popular, he should blame Cher lol! Do you remember ''do you believe in life after love''
🎯
I love usher, but you're right, he was falling off and was mad, that's all.
i was just gonna say this; almost everything usher made after Here I Stand was pop bubblegum autotuned garbage. literally sounds like every other singer now
We all know that he used auto-tune but it didn’t matter all of his songs were 🔥
PERIOD
Seems like Usher was just a hater IMO
Pain was good!!! Usher was just hurt that T Pain went on and took advantage of what was hot, and usher was still holding on to Yeah
Facts 💯
If you use auto tune but have quality music it's definitely an exception.💯
This goes to show just how powerful words can be. We need to think carefully before we speak.
Life and death are in the power of the tongue..
yeah but autotune does suck
T-Pain is a legend. The T-Pain slander won't be tolerated.
Usher is beyond T-Pain... no auto tune needed
@@doeplu4553 Tpain don’t need auto tune neither
@@nme.00104 facts 💯
What you said!!
@@doeplu4553 t pain more creative than usher tho??? have you heard bartender? fucking masterpiece
He has a good voice even without autotune. He just like the sound of autotune.
And I do too
He is also an excellent sing, songwriter and producer
Singer
@@kaizentruth8098 Bro listen to his rapping, he's a beast.
@@threezysworld8089 most def! I heard him a few times. He came a long way from his nappy headz days
Usher and Jay Z are just pissed because they didn’t think to use autotune first.
He’s not calling T Pain bad. T pain was a good singer and auto tune propelled him higher. But, he made it more acceptable and people with NO talent unlike T-Pain who has talent started using auto tune as a crutch which ruined music
@@KameTsunami but that’s not on t pain though
Jayz didn't like rappers using it. He didn't like rappers over using auto tune. Not singers.
T pain made auto tune sound good af but these other guys using it just straight shitty 😆
Jay-Z's style of rapping is pretty much just talking lol, why would he use autotune?
He had the guy woken up from sleep, only to tell him that he f*cked up music. SMH. What the hell is wrong with Usher?
Narcissism at its best
i give Usher props. That's a real alpha nigga move right there.
Right?! Such weirdo behavior
@@aresleve619 yep
@@bigman4407 thank you
T pain is so sweet. Sad this happened to him. His music is good.
His music helped me alot but I respect him for talking about depression
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his music is almost everyone's childhood and now seeing this broke my heart
He was never your friend! The fact that your “friend” woke you up so that you can go to him because *he* wants to talk to you, please!!! He never loved you. What makes him so important!
This comment!!!!!
I can see Usher being edged to do this.very degrading
@DaGoat Nah he was just talking shit. Fake friend
@DaGoat That's not a friend! Who wakes they friend up just to criticize his style of music🙄
Wow shows he's the bigger man and he even said no disrespect to usher. Their hate is anger of his success. T-Pain AND Usher were on my playlist back then; we all knew it was just his style, the auto tune didn't sound like crap because it's backed up by that great singing. Do your thang T-Pain.
Do your thing t-pain
T pain is not the bigger man he called out something that man people have complained about with other artists that autotune has been used too much since T pain. Usher just said what many fans of music ended up saying at the same time.
@@trevon_thedragon4034 That's like hating Steph Curry for people chucking up more threes in the modern NBA. It ain't T-Pain's fault he knew how to use autotune and everyone else didn't. Usher a fool for that one.
Usher is lame af for that. T pain studied autotune and had a purpose. Also t pain can actually sing and rap and he's humble and respectful also funny too.
Usher didn’t come at t pain he was talm bout da gate way t pain open for people who actually can’t sing and over use auto tune
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You obviously don't get it
That’s an interesting take on the situation
@@she4dastreets532 it's not t pains responsibility. People like it and support those other ones. They're the problem. That is not part of his intentions.
People should RESPECT other people's style of music. Just because he uses auto tune doesn't mean he can't sing it's just the style he choose.🤷♀️
MsLadyBlueWorld your comment was very well spoken ! But you know the hater's got to do they job ! 💜✌️
Its disappointing how many ppl neglect a new idea without even considering it to be something different.
Little did you know T Pain would disrespect his own influences and rant all about it. 😂
But didn’t usher use auto time as well tho?
What's more depressing is, usher being jealous of tpain. It's a damn shame.
Not jealous but it's true the music is so bad now because of him.
@@lunamoon4880 I highly doubt that. Tpain used auto tune the right way. They copied and made it sound terrible. On top of that tpain was inspired by old blues music that had a similar sound to auto tune .
@@lunamoon4880 not sure why people are supporting auto-tune. T-pain and lil wayne are the reasons why hiphop/rap/rnb is in such a huge mess right now...
@Tawanna Smith Roger Troutman is pretty much the blueprint of West Coast rap. Roger is a fucking Legend. To be honest Auto tune certainly didn't help R&B but please please don't compare him to Roger.
@@BigSocksProds Preaching to the choir!!!
When someone you love and trust tells you that you aren't good enough. It hits you hard no matter how strong you are. Just like your parents telling you that you are a loser.
He didn't call him a loser. He said that an action he was doing was having negative consequences for REAL artists. He had every right to say it. And T-Pain would not have been hurt if it weren't true. Everyone needs to learn how to receive criticism. Everyone can do something wrong. People need to get over it.
@@purplepheasant4776 he never said that he called him a loser he said it’s like the same feeling as your parents saying you’re a loser someone close to u not believing in u or saying you’re a failure
@@aiden-xc5fd I know he said it's like when you are told you aren't good enough or a loser but Usher didn't called him a bad singer. He called out some of his musical choices. It's like if you burn food and your parent says "hey you burned the food." vs "You are a bad cook." Usher told him that he burned the food because it was true. T-Pain did some stuff that adversely affected the music industry and he is still paying the consequences of his actions by not being considered a real singer.
@@purplepheasant4776 he still had no right to imply that T-pain isn't a "real" artist. He was rude, period!
A friend can speak the truth in love, without sounding like a hater.
@@purplepheasant4776so T pain ain't a real artist?
As much as I once respected Usher, this was so wrong of him to say. If anything T-pain changed the game and Usher's time was pretty much coming to a close in the mainstream. Man found his niche at a time when everyone was doing the same thing and, as he said, it made him stand out. Smh. All of this feels like the kinda thing a fair weather "friend" would say when all this time they've had the spotlight and, the moment their "friend" sees success, they need to tear them down.
T pain ain't mess it up,but let's be real that autotune sound killed r&b
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc I see it more like record labels pushing for formulated success and planting their plants who live off clout and payola killed this industry.
@@riminina agree shit is a hot mess
It was different. It did not take away from great singers .
Not to mention, USHER started usin it as well in later songs💯
I like his music better than Usher's ...not saying he don't have hits, but I like T-Pain's sound
Same
Well t pain is fun and his musics brings that....
Which makes it beautiful...his himself...
No way my dear, no way.
Seriously? Absolutely not better than Usher.
Auto-tune didn’t stop Usher, it was usher that stopped himself.
Usher has not stopped.
@@mspinkytee haven't seen that guy since 08...
@@ad.808 He’s had several
Top 10s and topped many charts since then.
@@austinfrombustop 6ix9ine tops charts to this day. Since 2010, he didnt have the impact T-Pain had in the music industry. And he still has the same impact specifically in R&B on artists like Bryson, 6lack etc. I'm not denying the fact that he topped charts. But the impact T-Pain had since 2010 is no where near Usher's.
@@ad.808 Uhhh Tpains impact was pretty short lived. Every male R&B star starting with Chris Brown has modeled their career after Usher. Justin Bieber who’s the biggest male pop star in the world has modeled his career off of Usher. Are you sure you wanna get into the conversation of having impact?
His voice is absolutely incredible and so is his spirit! Im so glad he had the chance to showcase his real voice!
he got a forum that vindicated him. God is truly awesome and in charge. in finding his way out, he became a better man.
I didn’t know he could sing without it. I had heard ppl say he could but never bothered to check.
@@007Fusiion Have you listened yet?
@@zoelife7272 very true
@@ashleighcannady7402 I did years ago
Unless you’re a REAL TPAIN fan, you know he’s a REAL artist and singer
Look who his dad is teddy pendergrass
tpain really can sing, he's got that talent, the matter of he's using auto tune is his own style, he just wants to make something different, something special, kind of music that has his signature, so why is it called messing up with music? smh usher just put himself in a bad situation because of the simpliest thing he could've possibly done, think before you say it man lol
Few years later Usher collabed with young thug..
Trueee
Usher making a comment about auto-tune would normally not garner any public conversation or hatred. He's one person. With one opinion. And he's certainly not the only person with an opinion about auto tune.
So why use it?
Exactly. T-Pain has proved he can sing beautifully (anyone who doubts it can watch his performances on The Masked Singer). It’s annoying how so many artists RELY on autotune and yet they are still successful even though they cannot actually sing.
The dude really has vocals, he just uses auto tune as his signature. Don't take shit from Usher, this coming from a dude who don't tell women he got the herps.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah fuked up he didn't say shit to them. I'd be mad as fuk!
A lot of people use auto tune and fans love it, Britney Spears and other pop artists heavily auto tune themselves. Music is subjective, people like what they like. I don’t know why Usher felt like he’s the music gatekeeper. 🤣🤷🏻♀️
Omg u hit that nail on the head now that is what usher should have been worried about
Facts!
Poor guy. I don't know much about this fella but he seems like a lovely genuine soul.
If a "friend" says anything negative about your work despite its success, that person is not your friend. That person is an energy vampire aka a narcissist.
Yep exactly
Agreed
But usher Is right though autotune is fake as hell if I'm listening to an artist in autotune form how will he sound when he is singing live autotune come on I want to hear your real voice not some computer generated shit
Yes!
Yes even Usher. Hating on another brother like this.
Forget usher love his music but tpain using autotune made us love his music
So agree
You don’t hear about usher anymore anyways unless he’s throwing them Ushbucks in the joint
Dude fucked up the game. Be honest you know his voice dont sound good without it.
T Pain can sing without autotune though. Usher should concentrate on the fact that he’s had no musical growth in over 20 years. This grown man with a wife and kids keeps making music like he’s competing with Chris Brown instead of someone his big age. Fvck Usher. I cannot stand him.
Right!!!
Wow this is really sad to read. T PAINS music brought people so much joy
True
Was wondering what happened to him. He never fell off just stopped. Never knew why. I may be a hypocrite bit I liked some of his music but singing should be left to only singers. Props to Usher for confronting him face to face.
@@marcuscarr123 - Usher said what needed to be said. Its just sad he finally had to be the one to say it.
Yes we love t pain wtf
He ruined music though Calena.
Man I have such good memories when I think of t pain. Life was simple, grandparents were here, I was hitting home runs on the baseball field, my grades were actually good, everything was just so simple and good. T pain has brought all of us so much joy. It saddens me to hear about this, but we all go through it.
Imagine this: My 'friend' sends a flight attendant to wake me up, just so he can tell me to get up, go over to him, and get insulted...🤬😢
Straight Ass. ..
yah that's fucked up
Like, why would you crush somebody like that?! Usher is toxic
Sounds like a certified Usher AZZ whippin to me😂
RIGHT! Thats what I was thinking....the nerve of dude. That's probably why he was "unavailable for a comment", he knew he was wrong for that.
TPain has such a talented voice without the auto-tune. When he added auto-tune, it was his touch, his “it” factor that made his music catch on. Mariah has her high pitch notes. Usher has his exceptional dance skills and nice voice. That’s their “it” factor. Every artist needs an “it” factor, or else they are just another singer, dancer, etc. TPain realized auto-tune was not done previously and took advantage of that. Don’t be mad at that instead applaud. It bothered Jay so much that he dedicated a song to it. 🤣 TPain was a pioneer in my opinion.
😂😂😂
He’s not the first to use it, he just brought it back.
He is not the first to use it.
Who cares if it was auto- tuned??! His songs were lit ! Some of the best tunes from back when I was in college. Love you T-pain. Screw what the haters say and just do you.
Yea actually it’s not who cares, where is the R&B section of music now ? It almost doesn’t exist
@@cherril21 “almost doesn’t exist” okay so is RUclips, iTunes and Spotify a joke to you ?
Exactly
I’m
Buy a drank was a banger no lie
Imagine bitching at someone for something and giving them depression, then turning around and doing the very thing you scolded someone else for. Hypocrisy in some people knows no bounds
Exactly! Usher is such a damn hypocrite. Acting as if he’s some god in the music business
The fact Usher told T Pain his auto tune singing f_cked up the music industry has me losing respect for Usher.
👍👉🏽 facts
This is the second instance where I’m thinking Usher is a nasty person on the low.
And the fact he got a flight attendant to bring t pain to him on the plane and made that comment. Who the f did he think he was to do that
@Adam NZ Jay Z made a song called “Death of Autotune” quit being soft....
@@simasima9455 never liked jay z even before then
Sounds like Jay Z and Usher were pissed that T-Pain was killing everything and featured on everybody's song when he was doing his thing. Jay-Z makes Death to Auto Tune then right after that Kanye West comes out with an album with nothing but auto tune on it and Jay-Z says nothing.
But that's not the case. Jay-Z directed DOA to rappers who were starting to sing more than rap. That's why he said,"...get back to rapping, you're T-Paining too much."
@@nguqobo2261 Agreed. But right after that his mans at the time came out singing on his album.
Ain’t that some shit🤔
Bruh he just co signed the migoes avalanche.... Jay z I mean. Not that the song is garbage nor the artist but facts are facts he's contradicting....Devils advocate....I guess people got the right to change their mi nd about ish .
Nobody ever called Usher out with his sexuality and JZ been getting too many passes.
T. Pain is literally a genius, and Usher needed to understand that music/creativity has many dimensions. Also, Roger Troutman and many others before him used the vocoder -- including Stevie Wonder. To say that he messed things up for singers is basically to not know music history and appreciation. It is crazy that the dude who came out with Justin Bieber would tell T. Pain that he "messed things up for singers." lol
Usher was talking about real as in the context of that hip hop stuff, i think, like they say new wave singers like talking heads arent real singers in hip hop i think even though they are a but hip hoppy
He was talking about using autotune completely. Autotune existed to tweak or enhance artist not to be their voice which is why most of the public didn't know what autotune was until T-Pain came out.
@@purplepheasant4776 which is part of that so called real hip hop mentality
@@carlurbananimals Yep, most didn't know what autotune was until T-Pain. He overused it over the entire song. You used to have to have a recognizable voice in Hip Hop now all the new ppl think they are singers and guitar players. Lil Wayne, Post Malone, and more. Smh. Everybody want that summer jam until they hear it live at Summer Jam and face is frowned up wanting a refund. What happened, I thought you loved that song. Sorry, no refunds.
You said that like Justin beiber can't sing
He must be protected at all cost like bruh he’s soo chill and genuine 🥺
I know Tpain did not let someone who's always crying into the Mic effect his career.
Lmao that’s kinda facts
Damn shame aint it....
One it came from someone he considered a friend and also someone he looked up to.The way Usher went about it certainly didn’t help either. It wasn’t just Usher either. T-Pain’s managers at the time was doing the same shit
🤦🏽♂️ women dont get it men go threw so much shit .. but go ahead queen
usher was genuine... yes friends are the worst type, id prefer to be told if i f up
This is crazy, even if he is using auto tune, this guy is an excellent r&b singer. Without auto tune he has a great voice. Why can't people just be happy for successful ones...we do not care about T-Pain using auto tune or his real voice. U R A GREAT, WONDERFULL AND AMAZING SINGER AND WE MISS U T-PAIN !!!!! LUV FROM Sénégal
And a great writer and producer
For sure.
He can actually sing! They got him twisted, auto tuned was used back in the day if they don't remember..
T pain will always hold a place in my heart
“ for real singers” t pain is 1000000% a real singer
and musician as well, he can use many instruments & kinda produce as well
Usher was just letting it burn
I never knew much about t pain but his personality is despite the setbacks is amazing
He’s very likable. More than Usher imo
Fucking LOVE him for this. So genuine, and humble, and not trying to put up any front. I don't even know much about him but this video has gained my like and respect for him in less than a minute. And how fucked up of usher to say that btw
Usher been had a lot of issues thats been covered up. Research! Research!
I think T Pain is the best.... Would Love to work with Him!!!!!
Same👌
And he's a better vocalist than Usher... And better dancer
You should see T-Pain on Hot Ones. He did it 2x too so yeah..
T-Pain made some mega hits and was the soundtrack to much of my 20s in the club. I still bump his songs when feeling depressed. Not so much Jay-Z nor Usher. There’s always a critic, do it for the millions of people who appreciate your music.
Can't believe he didn't say this sooner to the world, we would have supported him!
Yes. Speak up early. Anytime. I loved his songs way back.
Right?? Usher is a douchebag for that
Yes we love auto tune lol and TPain
Always supported him no matter what the haters said
he ass
I love them both but that was such a cruel thing to say to somebody! I don’t care that T-Pain is defending it, it was a careless thing for Jay-Z and Usher to do. Bullying!
This generation is soft. Anytime s person disagrees with something it's called hating.
@@marcuscarr123 or just an opinion perhaps
Exactly! and they need to bring out some new shit right about now, they shit old!🥱
@@pielcanela3888 stfu
@@pielcanela3888 oh really Ushers new song was no1 last year on the R& B charts
T pain doesn’t need auto tune he’s good anyways
@@nme.00104 Yup
I like your Micheal Jackson profile
@@KentrellJones1017 thanks
Why he use it?
@@myab1471 don’t know
Awwww he's so lovely, humble, and a decent guy👌❤️
In other words, Usher was crying cuz he couldn’t compete.
What are you talking about, T-pain would never be competition, with Usher. Usher has never dropped off.
@@adwoamk8918 um Usher has been off the game since possibly 2002 lmfaoo
You obviously didn't get it.
@@SincerelyMommaDukes did you say 2002?!!! girl now you know that's a damn lie!! stop it right now
@@SincerelyMommaDukes confessions came out in 2004 and that album is bigger than anything t pain has ever done lol
Respects to T-Pain 🤝💯
T-Pain's natural singing voice is angelic!
I can’t believe folk haven’t always known he could sing. He has an ole school soulful church voice!
The nerve!! He was probably just jealous because at that time his career was in free fall. Nowadays you don't even hear about usher and the little music he puts out goes nowhere.
What are you talking about? usher has always been a bigger artist than t pain. everything usher has released has been bigger than t pain.
@@deepstate3358 They never said that T-Pain has been more successful than Usher. They just pointed out the hypocrisy. The fact that Usher has collaborated with artists who rely on autotune is even more evident of that fact.
Facts
@@miranda13c what artists did usher work with who rely on autotune?
@@deepstate3358 young thug & Migos
Music is meant to evolve in different ways. There really aren't any rules to music.
Honestly. I fuck with T-Pain before Usher
Young dumb comment
Yea usher done tarnished his reputation a little bit anyway
Then u have no idea what music is because Ushers music is legendary
jackson tarnished it with what😂 ppl forgot that drama
I will NEVER understand why so many ppl hate T-Pain he's always been talented, whether singing or rapping or producing. You still have to know how to sing with it. Ppl tend to hate what they don't understand 💯💯💯
But T-Pain could actually sing his ass off.
Awww he seems like such a teddy bear!
I think Usher was secretly jealous of Tpain's voice and ability to sing notes that he couldn't. I am glad Tpain overcame Usher's comments. 🤍💯🤍
bruh I think that's a bit much，I know Usher is wrong on this but his song is good tho
@@wilhufftarkin6744 Ong he over doing it 😭😭 vocally Usher has no one to be jealous of. He was still mean for what he said though
T-pain is putting on a bit of an act. Everyone got tired of him being on everything, that’s what happened. This Usher thing is immaterial. Usher’s frkn right, anyway. You don’t understand unless you’re a singer from a different time.
@@TheSingingMystic87 I think T-Pain took it wrong. At that time everybody was using auto tune and you didn’t have to really be talented to make it. From Usher being from a different era and extremely vocally blessed I can understand what he mean. Pain doesn’t need auto tune but he made it his thing so he gets a lot of the bud for it being over used
@@wilhufftarkin6744 Yeah, Usher wouldn’t be jealous of T-Pain. I mean, check Usher’s catalog.
An artist should never let another person enter to their mental well-being. I love his music and how unique the artistic expression gain many fans.
It came from someone that A he looked up to and B someone he considered a friend and C someone he actually did a song with. It was never released though. It was the song they were going to do with Michael Jackson
When you walk in the club back in 00s hearing tpains song or even just in a house party playin his song, even to this day it still be bumping. L.E.G.E.N.D
I can understand why hè was so emotional when he won on "The Masked Singer"... his natural voice is amazing!!!
You can clearly tell that he could sing even tho he used auto tune in his music! They tare you down for being unique! Love you T Pain!
Yup, I know that firsthand. When they come for you, that’s how you know you doing something right.
When ppl down you, they're really downing themselves.
That what people do when they’re empty and need fulfillment.
He didn't mess up anything. He's never needed autotune. He only used it because he enjoyed it. I'm so glad he won the masked singer because he was able to show everyone his true voice
I love usher but he was wrong for sayin that to him like that’s just straight up disrespectful on so many levels.
Fax, cause i love ushers music and t pain, but yea thast shii wasnt cool for telling him that
I get chills every time I hear him sing in his natural voice. He missed the DMs for a reason…to work on HIM!! He looks to be in a good place now. You never know what a person is going through.. words have power!
I don’t think people understand how perfectly his auto tune sounds compared of others raspy ass auto tune. That’s how you know who can actually sing.
Bra that’s what I be saying
@@whatson1louis497 yeah T-pain pioneered auto tune but people stole his swag and are just doing it because they don’t know how to make music without it.
Gone are the days when people kept it real, big up Usher for doing that, I wish someone will confront all these mumble rappers today.
I am so mad that so many people attacked him. I have so many college memories to his songs.
This is craaaazy to me because his voice is fire. He did a Sam Cooke song “Change is gonna come” and it was amazing
T-Pain didn't even start autotune, Zapp & Roger did in the 80s and it was called talk-boxing
The talk box is not the same thing as autotune
Although they can sound similar, the talk box and auto tune are two different things. But we get what you're saying.
It was also mentioned in the story that it (autotune) was not new.
@@CoCoMoVitt Exactly. Auto tune has been around for a long time and was originally designed to artificially "tune" slightly off notes or pitchyness that a singer may have had trouble adjusting too. It was usually turned way down to a point where it was not noticeable. Artists like Cher and T Pain have it up far enough to actually get a melodic sound with their voice. The rapper Future turns it to the extreme. Lol!
@@lookahere Yes, you're right. I completely agree. Lol at "extreme" 🤣🤣
T Pain is such a talented artist there's nobody in his category he's so unique and a huge inspiration and gift to the music industry...
Tpain can actually sing though...tpain a legend
He ain’t legendary.. he’s good!! But not the best..
Tpain didn't fuck up music usher is just bitter, and jealous of tpain the tpain will always be a legend.
Thats dumb and ignorant to say also, dumb of you to not understand what Usher was saying
@@doeplu4553 it don't matter, music has gone and it will continue to go through different changes. Usher was wrong!
Tpain is famous in America, Usher is famous world wide & a R&B music legend. I can't even remember one Tpain song but theres loads of Usher songs I can remember
@@alejandraolvera7415 music has died. That's why Bruno Mars is thriving because his taking ppl back to the old music & ppl love it. This new crap is not what ppl want, its forced on them because it's all radio, tv & social media advertise & play constantly. So they become used to it .
@@lushtv7155 that's your opinion. Lol on tpain only known in america. You are stereotyping your opinion on everyone. That's the thing about music and genres there is plenty for everyone to enjoy not just what you think everyone likes.🤷🏼♀️
Well he’s right it did set him apart from others and while others have abused auto tune, I don’t think that’s his fault because he used it for a purpose and it wasn’t to make an awful sounding voice sound good
He doesn't have an aweful sounding voice! He has millions in his pocket stop hating!
We love t-pain, but that goes to show the company u keep ain’t always real. You still the shit in my book🙌🏼
Usher should be worrying about his everlasting burning ... and leave t pain alone🔥
😱😂😂😂☠️
@@flexibledreamer7846 😅😂😂🤣🤣🤣🙏
Girl ok ...fuck usher for saying that shit to him
The truth!!!
@@annettagriffin735 exactly
Alway know if you are a child of the Most High nothing can't stop ur shine in Jesus Christ name my friend
Amen!!!!
T Payne is the best. His music got me through a depression back in the day
Aww i can feel the pain through tpains music. He didn’t mess up music. Man tpain was one of my fav singers in middle school.
Usher would have never said that to Roger Troutman. You know I'm telling the truth.
It was called a talkbox
Way different
I know the difference between a talk box and autotune. However the triatic cord is tampered with using both units. The problem is you have absolutely no idea who you are talking to. So trying to correct me about anything studio music and score related. You should let it go.
@@devin8981 Not way different in the context I used it.
@@sharkdeepwater8 if anything you need to let it go , T pain has😒🙄
I LOVED T Pain's music. That was my middle school & high school memories.
Same. And he ROCKED season one of Masked Singer from the get go.
I used to like him . But now I like his personality too, AMEN
Usher was just being a negative old head. 😂 I have been guilty of this when new djs came to the scene with just laptops and no crates. Music and culture evolves we just need to embrace it and add our own touch to it or just let it go all together.
Can’t believe usher said that my gosh 😱
@Nancy Samuelson Usher and his ex wife are VERY close. She even clapped back at Wendy for saying Usher took the kids away from her. You can look it up. Obviously they had their issues but they are close family/friends now.
@@dsylla5064 yep yep that’s right that’s right
But I can’t believe usher said that to t pain tho 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They are not close. Where you getting your info. They coparent for the kids sake. That’s it!
I don’t care what anybody says, this guy saved my life😂
the sad part about the whole thing is that I absolutely love usher and his music. and I was very disappointed that he even said that to t-pain. did it really bother him that much that he had to personally tell him that?? oh well, jokes on usher tho because t-pain showed the world he did have a voice. this is a perfect example of CHOOSE YOUR WORDS WISELY!
T Pain seems like a real one. My pron queen dance was to your song. I'll never forget. Thanks for the memories.
If you really think about it, T pain really is the realest in the game.
Yeah he used auto tunes but he’s still a strong ass vocalist. I saw him live in 09 just singing on the keyboard. Dude didn’t fuck up shit.
Ikr we love him
Why the hell.he let usher talk down on him like that tff
Because T-Pain is a little punk...
@@erichavnen3727 you be throwing usher bucks at strippers to huh.
@@erichavnen3727 or it was someone he looked up to, stfu
Fighting back at that point wouldnt do anything. the damage of Usher's words had already been done
Just here to give Tpain his flowers 💐 put respect on the nappy boy name when you mention it . 💯