RGB SCART Cables for Retro Consoles Review - Adam Koralik
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2018
- It's Adam Koralik here and today we're discussing a package I got from the UK, specifically from a company called Retro Gaming Cables. They sent me a few different SCART cables to test out and show you. How is their work? Let's see!
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There are three scart types that should be addressed in the description so that some players aren't disappointed.
1. A scart adaptor - this is not scart - It is simply AV cables in an RCA to scart connection adaptor.
2. A regular scart lead. This is the same as above but with an actual (7 pin) scart connection. Quality wise, it's still just an AV cable.
3. RGB Scart - this is the true high quality scart. Usually 21 pin.
This will work best with the following consoles:
Atari Jaguar
Atari Jaguar CD
Nintendo Super Nintendo (Super Famicom) (original model only) (some users report issues with this console)
Philips CD-I or CDI (450 model not supported)
Sega Master System (model one)
Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) (models one and two)
Sega CD (Mega CD)
Sega 32X
Sega Saturn
Sony Playstation (1)
SNK Neo Geo AES
SNK Neo Geo CD
This will not work with anything older such as the Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Atari 7800, Nintendo Entertainment System, Colecovision, Famicom etcetera.
Some notable exceptions that do not work because of the limits of the console itself:
Nintendo 64 (unless RGB modded)
Super Nintendo Jr (unless RGB modded)
3DO (any model, Panasonic, Goldstar etcetera, though S-Video is supported)
NEC Turbografx 16 (unless modded or uses external RGB adapter)
PC Engine (unless modded or uses external RGB adapter)
Sega Pico
This device includes a VGA port for use with these consoles:
Apple Pippin (included on board VGA)
Sega Dreamcast (supports VGA, but SCART is supported as well for non compatible titles)
Component Input is also available, and is intended for the following consoles:
Nintendo GameCube
Nintendo Wii (not including the Wii Mini)
Microsoft XBox
Sony Playstation 2
The following consoles will not require this device in any way as they already have HDMI on board.
Nintendo Switch
Nintendo Wii U
Microsoft XBox 360
Microsoft XBox One (and Xbox One S and X)
Sony Playstation 3
Sony Playstation 4 (and PS4 Pro) 
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It's hard to get exited about SCART cables when I live in the UK and have about 40 of them in a draw in my game room
+crimson bolt Thanks for trying though!
Same here. I have about 5 under my TV cabinet and I keep finding them around the house. There was one randomly inside a footstool/box thing in my living room. probably threw it in there and forgot about it.
Maybe,but if you are importing a JP console you still need to have it RGB modded (for the better picture) if you live in the UK.My original PC Engine looked MUCH better than the unmodded PCE Core II i have now..
And yet it is hard to buy them this days, you never know whether you are buying RGB cable or just composite with scart end...
Good quality scart cables are exciting though, there's a lot of junk that causes interferance and audio buzzes.
I just cleaned and restored one of my Genesis model 2’s thanks to your videos. Keep up the good work Adam, you rock man!
Thanks, glad I could help!
Retro Gaming Cables make damn good RGB cables. I have one for my Model 1 Sega Mega Drive (Modded to 60hz) and the picture it brings out is incredible! Especially looks brilliant on an old-arse CRT. :)
Finally, you're moving up in the world. There's no other cable like these, or at least no other manufacturer as dedicated to doing the best cables they can. Their testing facilities are impressive, they make sure to get as much feedback as possible, and sample the cables on as many hardware revisions as possible too. They're very dedicated to perfection, as imperfect cables can have very negative effects.
When you've got a CRT as bitching as mine, cheap cables just don't mut the custard.
Just to add, I've bought 3 cables from this company Snes , Genesis, and Sega Saturn and they are all flawless. I compared them to the cheap ones i got off Amazon and it's night and day. A huge plus is it fixed the jail bar problem i was having on my Genesis. For us in America these cables + and OSSC or XRGB-mini framemister equal prefection. Being able to play Streets of Rage 2 and Chrono Trigger in 1080p on a 65 inch TV is one of lifes great joys. Buy these cables, support these guys, fast shipping, great prices and a flawless product what more could you ask for!
Thanks for including the list of consoles in description!
Pretty much my entire setup is RGC cables. I’ve found them to be superb quality. And they are just great people to talk to as well. And I’ve just got the standard cables. I imagine the packapunch cables are superior. I would definitely recommend them!
the packapunch cables i believe have alot more shielding, like for each signal. in terms of csync or lumia, generally c sync is better, but it depends entireley on the console.
www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/CSYNC-RGB-SCART-CABLES you may find this helpful. if iin doubt, get in touch with them, they are super helpful.
Have been using these cables for some time and they are highly recommended.
Awesome review Adam!
Thanks!
The timing literally couldn't be more perfect, I'm about to buy cables from these guys.
+hunter kreuer Awesome!
PC Engine does not necessarily have to be modified to output RGB. For those who'd like to get RGB signal on their PC Engine, CoreGrafx and Core Grafx II consoles without any modifications, there are few options. These include custom made SCART cable by an eBay seller (fidde se) from Sweden and Mega Drive 2 / Genesis 2 SCART cables via dbGrafx Booster and Super SD System 3 (Terraonion) will do the job.
I have bought a variety of RGB cables from Retro Gaming Cables. They have all been excellent quality and I can highly recommend them.
Richard Whitfield yes same here
I'm not like "uh what" at all. They are the best cables. All retro gamers must know of this. Thank you Adam for showing them the light.
+brentonius Thanks for watching!
I use RBG scart on my Sega Saturn, thanks to your vids I learned about that.
+Riz2336 Happy to help!
I've been using rgb scart cables from retrogamingcables for about a year now, it's funny actually since I live in the uk I had NO idea old gaming consoles actually supported true rgb. I HIGHLY approve the quality of the cables they sell, the build quality is solid and the performance is clean and vibrant. I like the fact that they have sync stripping circuits built directly into the scart lead heads themselves, making them very easy to use with external upscalers like the xrgb mini framemeister.
I buy all my SCART cables from them, I'm hoping to upgrade my current ones to their pakapunch range.
The Fishkeeper Hi 😃 Do you know how the PACKAPUNCH RGB SCART GameCube cable from retrogamingcables compares to the RGB SCART GameCube cable from consolegoods?
Is there a discernible difference?
@@andydavidson1278 I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the consolegoods ones so I can't comment on the quality, but the PACKAPUNCH ones are highly quality than most as each individual wire in the cable is fully shielded which is a good idea if you need longer cables, or have a lot of SCART devices such as switch boxes and scalers chained together, but might be a bit overkill if you're just going straight into a TV, or are not too fussed about the possibility of some slight video noise being introduced somewhere.
another great video man
Thanks!
I’m in the U.K. and have all of the retro gaming cables. Combined with OSCC and retrotink 2x pro the quality is insane 😎
Everyone! Quit what you're doing, Adam Koralik is on!
After video: Adam has convinced me to give up on saving money.
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Adam is one of those little internal dialogue devils that stands on your shoulder and tells you to splurge all your money in a Mikey Mouse voice.
Got my NES one from them and it worked so well.
I use alot of they're RGB Scart cables, they're very good straight into a CRT TV or upscaled for a modern TV / streaming / recording. Very good for me as a PAL gamer, but regardless of us having SCART over here, we still had to put up with 50hz video for retro systems. (And some bad conversions to that) Still, that's me going off topic, great cables! They even do cables for vintage computers!
I’ve used there service a few times and great quality and never had any issues
OG Xbox RGB isn't as good as you might think. Unless you have a version 1.6 Xbox the RGB out is very soft, not significantly better than S-video since the video encoder chip gets it's RGB out by converting the low passed downsampled YPbPr data that also feeds the component/S-video encoding section. Using Component is much better on version 1.0-1.5 Xboxes even if you're not doing anything 480p/HD.
Interesting. I just ordered an MS advanced Scart with the optical out. I happen to have a 1.6 Xbox. Hopefully, it will be a great picture. You think with the 1.6 it would be as good as a component? The advanced scart cable was £30 in the day so I assume it is high quality.
I feel you in the NG CD PSU. A few months ago I had to whip something up to safely test if my AES was 5v or 9/10v without opening it. I ultimately had to open it for other reasons (needed a trace repair and a new LM2576 voltage regulator) but at least I know I can safely run it on a Sega Genesis PSU. Even more recently I had to buy a 12v 5A PSU from a thrift store because it fits the TurboGrafx-CD dock (5.5x2.5mm instead of the usual 5.5x2.1mm). Even then, I had to reverse the polarity for it to work. 12v would run the voltage regulator a little hotter than the original (11v US, 9v Japan) so I knocked it down under 11v using diodes. I also has similar problems with my Commodore 64 back in the summer, when the 5v output of the dual-voltage PSU failed. Being dual-voltage, it’s probably got a lot in common with the NG CD PSU, though it definitely won’t work (IIRC, the other voltage was 9v AC). IIRC, NG CD uses 5v and 10v DC through a DIN connector. It’s probably very easy to make a dongle that accepts two 5.5x2.1mm plugs so you can connect any regulated 5v PSU and a 10v PSU with the right polarity. TG16 uses 10.5v, so that might work. USB chargers typically give regulated 5v so a good one might work well for the other voltage. Good luck, Adam!
these cables are like 70 bucks, its nuts!
I got a RGB scart from them for my PS2 and the quality is amazing on a modern HD TV
Adam loves his SCART.
+Scott the Canadian Yeah boy boy.
I have bought a couple of cables from them (ps1 & wii) and they are good, id like to upgrade all my cables eventually. The biggest issue I had beforehand was interference... loud buzzing, their cables fixed the problem.
Nice video Adam and it’s nice to see RGC getting some exposure, they’re my sole supplier of RGB Scart cables in the UK. We were lucky in the UK/EU when it game to the the TV hook ups that were made available to us. I was wondering if you got your NG CD PSU, and you answered my question lol. I hope you can track one down.
Although SCART cables are common as muck in the UK, even today with HDMI its important to note that a lot of cost saving was forced into cables that people were given in device packaging. usually the cheap freebie cables were not fully wired, supporting only composite and maybe s-video (RGB signals make use of some of the svideo pins so you need those wired) and unscreened cable.
So if you are picking up a scart cable in the uk, thicker = better as it indicates either screening or more wires or both. But open the scart connector up and look inside. Hopfully it will have all pis wired. Thats a keeper.
Still really satisfied by the Scart cable I bought for my SNES ^^
adam if you can please make a best video quality for the og xbox i got mine back in september i got some component cables but i want to explore other options or better component cables
Alright buddy .another good video
Thanks!
I have a tritron with s video so I'm pretty happy with that
I didn't even realise you guys didn't have scart!! I just guessed it was a worldwide thing
I do love RGB scart for my old consoles. Though it pains me how many people used composite here in the UK back in the day.
when you tested the scart xbox cable did you verify having the resolution options because im having an issue where I didn't know I need the yPbPr over scart instead of csync scart for the OG xbox.
Pretty cool! ^^ Can't wait to see how good the Xbox would look with RGB Scart. Also, did you get a new microphone? The audio in this video sounds amazing!
+Lodmot Yes sir.
Would love some more info on the monster Xbox cables I I’ve had a set since day 1
Not that I would need one, but I can’t wait to see what that RBG Scart looks like on the OG Xbox. Curious, I wonder how a DVD video would look with it.
This video made my scart cable so freakin hard.
How do you hook up a GameCube, N64, and SNES to RGB Scart if you mod them to use the signal?
I only used av also known as compostite and the Wii one too, HDMI and others...
Heard that RGB Scart was the best of quality for retro games...
I guess we were kinda lucky here in Europe. Any time I got a new console I rushed out to buy the scart cable for it. I have about a million in a box. Now we don't even use them but the difference was stunning.
I just got a scart cable for my Mega Drive 2, really good picture but sometimes I feel that it's too sharp and can see all the pixels where as playing with RF was muddy it hid all the pixels and gave it a smoother picture. Maybe I should just use composite? it's just a 19" TV I'm using.
I never realised you chaps lived without SCART cables.
Have heard about the duke Xbox controller is coming back in March for the Xbox one
Yeah, I also told you. My reaction is still, $70, barf.
thanx man, I was just about to look into this company for a scart cable for my snes. How have you hooked up your snes if I may ask?
+Van Hendriks Check out my SNES Jr RGB video.
thanx bro!
Feeling good in this case to be living in EU and having an old CRT TV with one SCART RGB port available on the back. :)
Hopefully you can review the Pound OG XBOX HDMI Cable. Many new TVs don't have Component Input, so my Monster Cables ain't going to work unfortunately.
Very reliable company, great cables. I will say, the Dreamcast packapunch scart cable actually displays 31khz 480p, so it's a nice alternative to a vga cable if you have the Framemeister/OSSC. I use it and (in my opinion) looks better than the Toro/vga box route.
Can i use the packapunch scart cable to play non VGA supported games in 480p on the dreamcast?
7:10 I also got my Neo Geo CD back in October, except I didn't have to go on a quest to Japan to get it, I had the Ebay gods and Postal Service sorcerers bring it to me.
I’ve got an official Xbox component cable (somewhere); what’s so good about the Monster cable in particular?
cool rgb scart cables did it work good for you games console system adam
Never mind composite, we had coaxial up to ps2, so mega drive, n64 and ps1, just didn't know there was other options. Had the ps3 a couple years before getting a HDMI screen and upgrading from composite, my lord the difference!
Adam Q: I have a Wii and I need to hook it up hdmi, what is best. I just tried portholic’s hdmi small converter piece, and there was horizon lines continuously running thru the whole picture from left to right. Is there any other better thing I could get? My tv has composite and hdmi only.
What's going on with the vertical lines on screen with the RGB scart cables?
I've got a question about the original Xbox. In the video, you said that the best cables for the Xbox were Monster component cables. What makes them better than the High Definition AV Pack released by Microsoft?
Hello, could you help me to choose, I made rgb mod for my snes ntsc 1 chip. Which cabe should I buy?
I'm curious to know if these rgb scart cables would look better than component for a original pal Xbox when outputting in the standard uk 480i/576i.
No it doesn't look better than component.
Adam in the video description you put that with the Genesis you couldn't get this to work? Are you referring to the cable from this company that you own that doesn't work?
Er, what part are you referring to specifically?
Adam Koralik "This will work best with the following consoles:
Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) (models one and two) (I personally couldn't get this to work)"
Just picked up a Genesis and a cable from these guys so I wanna make sure I didnt get screwed over :P
Hm, sorry, pay that no mind. It's from the metadata of an old video. The cables will work.
Adam Koralik Thanks for the prompt reply dude! ;)
Great video can't wait until we see the Xbox comparison video 👍
+Adrian Oneil Thanks!
So, what about using those awesome cables but with a cheap scart to hdmi box?
I would outpout awesome image or, because the cheap scart to hdmi box sucks, the image would suck?
I have the NTSC SNES/Super Famicom Scart cables on the way from the UK as we speak.
After RF scart was amazing..it was like having a new hi def tv in 1990..sharper image, brighter colours and no fine tuning to get rid of the wobble. We even had a scart adaptor to plug composit into instead of using the tvs composit input..Not sure what difference that would make..probly cos most european tvs in the 90s had scart and maybe not all had composit.
I've heard good things about retrogamingcables.co.uk. That being said, I haven't used anything but cables made from Retro-Access (retro_console_accessories) for my RGB consoles. I know she took some heat over that whole issue with the Genesis cables a while back, but everything I've ever ordered from her was packed well, arrived quickly, and worked perfectly. That's from both the eBay store as well as the new website. If something were to go wrong, I'd obviously have no fears in switching over to 'the other option' in retrogamingcables. They are pretty much the Coke and Pepsi of RGB/SCART cable choices!
Wouldn’t Component / S-Video the NTSCs version
of that connector?
Could you tell me how I could splice/combine the stereo front wire to a video SCART cable? Theirs is too much for me (£24.99).
No idea, not an engineer sir.
WOOOOOOOW! From 'Retro Gaming Cables'! Those are indeed good!
Figure it ooouutt!
I have a PS1 and Megadrive cable from these. Very high quality. Expensive for video cables, but I've never seen my games looking better.
Does the ps3 work with rgb scart on a pvm monitor?
Retrogamingcables.co.uk are awsome!
I got a bunch of them for alot of systems.
Amazing cables.
Hey adam big fan! But I have a question. I am wondering. Just purchased 32x add on with model 2 gen connected. I noticed that it works with only one power supply to the main gen 2 unit. Why is there a second ac cord for the 32x ? And secondly am I harming anything by using only one? Tested is using afterburner with no issues. Thanks in advance
It requires both because in some games the Genesis does half the work and will display content while the 32X does other things. Without the patch cable, it can't show the whole game.
Adam Koralik ok I understand why the patch cable is there now. But what about the power supply? Its wierd because I hit the power button to turn off afterburner for example and nothing happens until I pull the second power plug from 32x. But if I only use one power supple straight to the genesis model 2 its self and no 2nd power supply to the 32x I can turn off and on games perfectly without any issues and everything works great. And these are oem power cables as well.
Which cable for PS2 with OSSC on a Oled TV ? CSync version cable or regular one ? Thanks
Hey Adam I just purchased some cables from RGC, I was wondering if you know how to convert n64 and saturn one to csync instead of luma? also I was wondering, is the picture quality of retro access cables much better then rgc cables? can you do a video compareing all rgb scart cables on the market maybe? I see a tiny bit of noise with these rgc and insurrection cables not sure if thats the retrotink scart 2x or not do you think my tv could be causeing this? thank you I know its alot of questions. I apologise
I'm pretty sure that is a mod you have to mod it
Dang, out of stock. :/
Edit: I just saw they were in stock today, ordered it immediately. Can't wait for it to get here :D
I wonder why RGB Scart was never introduced in the US, also RGB mods are possible on some CRT TVs which that's what I'm planning to do on my Sony Trinitron.
On the fence of picking up an OSSC. Curious if anyone has tried SCART on PS1/PS2 and OG Xbox through OSSC? Just curious of impressions on quality, and ease of use. Any issues whatsoever? Thanks in advance.
Need that Xbox video!
Can't wait for OG Xbox video comparison.
Adam, I have a GameCube component cable but i really don't use it that often because my TV only has 1 Comp input and I have other things using that port. Would I benefit from a component to HDMI converter? Is it even worth trying something like that?
+Trevor Morgan Likely it would introduce a lot of additional noise in the video signal. I find even the Framemeister struggles with that. Though the OSSC did it well.
That's what I needed to know! Appreciate the response, Sir! :)
Get a nice 480i CRT. Maybe a Sony Trinitron. Playing on one of those with conponent (even if there isn't progressive scan) looks way more beautiful than playing on any modern flat panel.
I definitely agree but the problem with that is space for a TV like that and weight! Those things, though incredibly worth it, are incredibly heavy! Still something I might try to look into for sure. If I can get one on the cheap then I'll make room and get it down to my game room somehow. Haha. Thanks!
Ordered their CSYNC Wii SCART cable. Coz I am in the UK and wanting to use the Wii on my CRT and I'm from the UK and not many CRTs in Europe support Component. I have been eyeing their GameCube and PlayStation 2 ones (the GameCube one to replace the one that came with my GameCube it was 2nd hand and a cheap knock off cable and their PlayStation 2 SCART cable with the GunCon port so if I get LightGun games I can get solid quality while playing LightGun games)
Got a PlayStation 1 RGB SCART cable
Hi Adam, how do I burn PS2 pal game discs to pc to see if there are any damaged files? Was going to super chat in your next live stream but you aint seeming to do one anytime soon.. Thanks!
+Kristian Hristov Do you mean rip them?
Yes sorry!
@2:47 It is not cheap. The Framemeister is just pricey in comparision, even though it is a better solution. There are always diminishing returns and your use case scenario determines whether or not it is worth it. The OSCC on the other hand is a proper alternative.
+Red Phoenix The $30 SCART to HDMI adapter isn't cheap?
Even though they do not work on my TV. HD retrovision RGB cables for genesis
My Wii U won't show up on the TV despite trying diffrent cables, I suspect it's just the HDMI port that's broken which leads me to use AV instead
That's really random.
Awe man the difference is night & day wow! I may have to invest in a frame meister! Could the frame meister enhance a console that using HDMI (HD console)?
+Roscoe Jones Nah, really intended for older platforms
Adam Koralik , ok. what about my PSTV? Could it upscale that? Thanks for responding
if I buy GOOD scart cables for the dreamcast, does my dreamcast need to be modded or will they just natively be supported?
It's natively supported, though I wouldn't recommend that for the majority of content.
@@AdamKoralik what kinds of cables would you recommend that won’t create any major problems with the library of games? ideally I’d prefer to find a solution that doesn’t require a mod because I don’t know how to install them and don’t want to pay even more for someone who does to install it for me….right now all I got is the pound cable cause when I got my dreamcast I didn’t know any better lol
@@trevormoody5963 So the problem is the Dreamcast has no 100% compatibility solution that also looks good. The best option is the Mamba. I did a video on it recently. Watch that, should be very informative.
@@AdamKoralik yes that was helpful, your videos have helped improve stuff like the og xbox and ps2….very high quality content
Have you done any video on scart selectors
Not specifically, but the one I recommend is by a company called Bandridge.
Adam quick question: best source for S-Video cable for NTSC GameCube?
Monster cables, they're purple.
For $99 on eBay?!
Thanks. Scart is really convenient solution, like an analog grandpa of HDMI. You also sound much better than (about) a month ago. Do you have a new microphone?
+lp seem Using a lav mic.
Most people watch these videos on flat screen tvs. The difference between RGB SCART and CVBS is even bigger on an actual CRT TV.
I have all mine from the seller you mean. But they don't have any specific ones listed anymore. Seems like a request thing now which is odd.
Also worth noting if you own a super famicom jr it wont output rgb like the original sfc does. You'd have to mod the sfc jr.
+Kevin Young That's why I did a video about exactly that subject sir.
Are these better than original nintendo SCART cables?
I always felt outdone by PAL compared to fancy US NTSC but scart is UK standard so I have been enjoying better quality Megadrive and SMS and Gamecube displays for years!
4k tv can input scart and rgb PIUP no setting up
You said in description, component for ps2 over rgb scart?
If you want to use it on a modern set-up, yes. If you want to use it on a CRT, go with SCART.
Well, unless you have a CRT with component I suppose.
It'll never look good though, the PS2 famously always looks bad.
I had to check to see if I left the video on 1.25X speed. Hitting the coffee pretty hard before filming this Adam?
+Taylor Sharp Always.
Adam,you'retalkingveryfasttoday.
+television and cheese Coffee!
The SCART fetish continues ;D