Cheap PAL GameCube RGB SCART Cables - Avoid! | IMNC
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2016
- In the PAL region, we're lucky enough to enjoy native RGB support from our GameCube consoles via SCART, but not all cables are the same. In this video, I compare some differences between a cheap eBay RGB SCART cable (£2-£3) and a cable from consolegoods.co.uk of decent quality (£5.90). I get pricing slightly wrong in the video.
I hope to get my hands on an official Nintendo GameCube RGB SCART cable soon and make a follow up to this episode comparing all 3 cables video & audio quality.
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It's about time someone on here did a video on cables/consoles that are PAL UK. Thank you for doing this video.
I'm an American living in the UK for many years and my GameCube is a local PAL, of course. I had the GCN hooked up to a component switch box and after being spoiled playing the games with superb graphics on the Dolphin emulator, I decided to use the scart cable that came with it (which I put in a box and forgot about it, didn't understand what it was exactly at the time). Switched the GCN from component to the aforementioned scart and wow, what a tremendous difference! I have your second cable that I bought for cheap as well. Thank you for sharing this video, I will also keep an eye on a first party scart cable on eBay.
Just bought a 49inch 350 quid 4k tv from Currys that had 1xscart, 1xcomponent and 4xhdmi so some newer tvs still have these options. Once hooked up with switchs, i now have 13 consoles at the flick of a few switchs. Cheers for the video as it helped me decide on the gamecube output.
Nice to have a video for the PAL region Game cube
I live in Florida, over here in the states, I didn't hear of scart until I found this awesome channel
This was very good to know because I'm currently finding a way to get better picture quality to my Gamecube. Thanks from the video. :)
For my RGB set up I just didn't go with off the shelf cables, I re-purposed VGA cables (very good shielding) and have audio using the original AV cables, as my setup is split in terms of video and audio.. Plus SCART equipment is expensive here haha
I wouldn't recommend going this route for small setups, however..
Hi 😃 Do you know how the PACKAPUNCH RGB SCART GameCube cable from retrogamingcables compares to the RGB SCART GameCube cable from consolegoods?
Is there a discernible difference?
Thanks
Nice to see you back !
thank you for the heads up - i was about to purchase a scart cable for my pal gamecube (cause i bought a region-less gc with no digital out oops) but you've enlightened me. thank you lots!
Bought one last week. The picture was really blurry. Luckily all contact pins and wires were present so it was possible to rewire the damn thing.
It works great now!
I always find these cable videos interesting.
Watching these videos makes me want to set up my PS1 again. I have an old CRT TV knocking about somewhere so I can do ye olde SCART. Only problem is I let my friend borrow it to play FF7 again but he's moved to South Korea since! Ah well lol.
I'm using an official Nintendo RGB Scart cable with my Gamecube and I'm pretty satisfied with the picture quality. Definitely better than composite.
Does the Cube have thermal paste? Wouldn't hurt to change it for a longer life and better temps!
Its not only the interference sound, but you also get washed-out colors from the video part of the cable.. I tested it with soul calibur II
i think scart only gives an interlaced picture, where as the component gives 480p
Have you done your follow up video?
Hey ITMNC I have genuine RGB GameCube cables I bought back on day one. Loved them then, really appreciating them now! I have an indigo Pal GameCube plus a beautiful Spice cube from Japan hooked up to my 65" Panasonic TV . I'd like to offer you a stay over in good old Australia if youre interested! Got a spare room and some sweet G4 Macs that need some tweaking !!!
In cheap scart cable you have to disconnect the +12v (used only for autoswitch channel) and use it for ground only the audio ground pin on the secondary ground pin on the game cube connector .
I had an official scart cable back in the day, and the cable was about the same thickness as the "cheap" cable
What kind of keyboard do you have?
Badass consoles sells a plug and play hdmi adapter for the digital out port.
My 3 euro cable only has a minor hum but I have to put the volume extremely high for it to become audible.
But the video has some kind of checkerboard pattern that moves. Really annoying.
I find a option on my samsung TV/monitor, It is called "Digital Clean View". When I put that on high everything is looking fine again.
What kind of keyboard do you have please? I want to know :)
Any video is a good video whether Mac or GameCube
a "fix" that comes to my mind is running the audio through a receiver tape loop and turning on Dolby for the first cable.
Heres two official Nintendo cables I found. Super expensive though
www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Famicom-Official-RGB-SCART-CABLE-SHVC-010-Nintendo-JAPAN-Game-0233-/311460173130?hash=item488479154a:g:St0AAOSwDFNWFOC0
www.ebay.com/itm/OFFICIAL-GENUINE-NINTENDO-GAMECUBE-RGB-SCART-AV-TV-CABLE-LEAD-DOL-013-EUR-BOXED-/182124499555?hash=item2a67775263:g:qWUAAOSwQNRXMEnx
Many people mod old consoles to output HDMi directly, but I prefer getting original or high quality RGB SCART cables, and later down the line buy a Retrotink 5X Pro or a 4K when I decide to stop using CRTs, which is not anytime soon. Have you tried getting a SNES RGB SCART cable? I have one and if I'm not mistaken it also works with the Gamecube. It doesn't work with the N64 without modding it first dough.
random question, but my TV doesn't have SCART, so do I just go for a computer monitor to use SCART? I'm in new zealand so I've got PAL like Europe. thanks
Hi Shaun - Computer monitors sold in NZ don't have scart either. Just stick with S-Video or Component cables.
The only time i ever saw Scart inputs on T.V's in NZ were way back in the mid to late 1980's when my Fathers Sony Trinitron had twin RGB Scart inputs on the back of it.
29" Sony Trinitron CRT's back then were made in West Germany.
@@albey1816 apparently s-video are not good on pal gamecubes but are good with other regions no clue if thats true or not??
You could force 480p on a pal GC through Swiss!
I'm debating importing a PAL system
can you do review and tech stuff?
That's one good looking keyboard! It looks like a Corsair.
I was extremely lucky snatching a genuine nintendo RGB SCART cable for gamecube for almost nothing.
I know this was 7 years ago but even at this point there’s not even a need for component cables. Cause of these hdmi adapters for older consoles. And kaico or butfunx are good examples of good quality hdmi adapters
I used a cheap eBay SCART cable as well and mine doesn't appear to have the same interference issue. I guess I managed to buy a decent one. Also, on our 720p/1080i TV the image is super crisp on SCART compared to composite. It's as good as it's going to get on PAL I reckon, without a first party cable.
I'm really liking this guy's channel and I'm sure I'll be seeing more of you here, so is it OK if we leave our past behind us, move on and get on with each other?
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I think you replied to the wrong comment.
+nelizmastr good so you've already forgotten about it and moved on? We will speak no more of it yeah? :-)
***** You're on some strong narcotic, my friend.
+nelizmastr pretty sure I'm not... now let's just get on yeah? :-)
i have RGB scart for gamecube and i cant tell diferent betwen composite, its the same qualité
So, i have the Official Nintendo Gamecube SCART for 40 bucks. and i think it‘s depends of their quality images and Sounds. but the Official one are i think almost the same as the Consolegood cables. even there‘s a HDMI Adapter from Kaico for 80 bucks on Amazon but i‘ll use scart with the OSSC (It‘s the alternate Framemeister but quite cheaper). but i think the HDMI adapter is the easiest way for PAL region.
First XD 😀😎😍 and welcome back Tom 😍😍😍😍
White screens are good for picking up leakage in audio.
love that polaroid monitor
It's TV to be honest
really? that's probably what's causing this numpty's audio problem. All retro gaming set-ups start with the tv. A sony trinitron, bang and olufsen, whatever. As long as its a crt. My 21inch trinitron is the most important part of my set-up. I've been through the service menu, got a test signal dvd and got the geometry just right and through rgb scart, retro gaming doesn't look better than that.
Why does the pal system have a digital output when it never supported 480p?
For component cables, which are still better.
@@dimitri-petrenko would you reccomand the component cable cause i dont know if it would make a huge difference for pal gamecube?? i still dont get the difference between component and scart and i dont see a scart input for modern tv 's and i dont have a wii so
@@richpaino2826 If you have PAL gamecube it is not worth to buy component cables and SCART is great if you have it. If you do not have SCART on your TV I suggest you buy a HDMI mod. My TV is from around 2012 and I have the official gamecube SCART cable and it looks really good.
@@dimitri-petrenko besides the hdmi mod i basically got nothing for my pal gamecube ? since the other eon adapter apparently break ur gamecube and the componenet cable dont have progressive scan for pal gamecube which makes the quality higher so say if someone used the cable on a pal gamecube would the image stay the same quality as composite? im just curious
@@richpaino2826
_besides the hdmi mod i basically got nothing for my pal gamecube ?_
- If your TV has no SCART port and you don't want to buy the component cable, HDMI mod is the best. But you can also buy the first edition Wii and buy Wii component cables which cheap. It is nearly the same quality.
_since the other eon adapter apparently break ur gamecube_
- I believe this was fixed with most recent adapters, if they fit securely like the EON it won't break it.
_and the componenet cable dont have progressive scan for pal gamecube which makes the quality higher so say if someone used the cable on a pal gamecube would the image stay the same quality as composite?_
- PAL GameCubes don't have progressive scan at all. It doesn't matter what cable you use, you will never get a progressive scan output.
The image clearity will be much better if you use atleast SCART and even a little better when you use component or HDMI mod. But seriously composite is so bad that SCART makes a huge difference that it is not worth to upgrade to component or even HDMI. But this is only when you have a SCART input on your TV.
*The best options for PAL gamecube:*
- Official or good quality GameCube SCART cable. (if TV supports)
- Buy first edition Wii and Wii component cables, this is actually pretty cheap and good alternative if you don't mind playing on the Wii (it has controller ports for GameCube controllers.)
- HDMI mod.
PS: I do have a GameCube with official SCART cable and own a Wii with component cables. I prefer to play on the GameCube with SCART because the clearity and colors are a little bit better than Wii + component.
There is a SCART to micro connector which does work but the wires inside the lead can break and render the unit useless, It is a shame that the Nintendo Game Cube doesn't support HDMI, the second one is indeed better.
I have always been disappointed with the image quality of this console without ever really understanding why... the Dreamcast (same generation) never encountered this problem !
Or when you don’t insert an audio cable all the way when the source device is still switched on
There's another problem with cheap GameCube RGB SCART cables. Nintendo being Nintendo cheaped out and only use Sync on Composite. Not Sync on Luma or Csync, which produce a cleaner RGB signal. Unless using a well shielded cable, Sync on Composite can introduce checkerboard patterns or jailbars to the video.
That is really no where near as big an issue as people make it out to be. I've had no problems with checkerboarding or jailbars with sync on composite.
What does this mean, I bought a cable from retro gaming cables and it says it's sync over csync?
I got an official nintendo scart RGB cable for 12€ :D
Why do you say Scart isn't common in NTSC regions? Here in Austria we're using NTSC and Scart is extremely popular or at least it was till the HDMI Bluray crap came out..
Huh I thought Austria was PAL
+Slot1Gamer Lol I had always been configuring NTSC maybe I did it wrong all the years :D
Austria is PAL. The only deviants in Europe are Belarus and France, which use SECAM.
nelizmastr
Oh lol. I had always been using NTSC haha. There was a time where I thought NTSC is better than PAL so I selected NTSC whenever prompted.
NTSC has a higher refresh rate than PAL, but PAL had more lines. It was down to the refresh rate of the power grid i think.
oh my God, Dude I did hear that
Nice Keyboard
Just use a Wii and component cables. The benefits of component video are best seen with larger resolutions, I stress component video for anything that was released after the Dreamcast where possible. The Dreamcast is best with VGA, and the prior consoles are all best with RGB wherever possible.
That said, my Wii uses RGB, because the only TV I own is a CRT from the 90's (B&O ME6000). I already owned the TV from soon after I purchased a Master System, and owning many TVs is just not practical.
Ironically, HDMI and flat panel displays really have no purpose for my living room, as I don't actually watch TV, and anything digital is handled by my PC in a different room. Thankfully.
I can avoid it because I dont live in the UK I live in the usa where we never got scart.
THE SCART IS ON PAL
*It’s called white noise or tape hiss on walkman’s LOL* 💡
i would get the retrogaming ones. those are "THE BEST"!!!!
and HD retrovision makes component ones that plug into the analog input on the gamecube. they are perfect for you guys in the PAL region
I paid 90 for my cable lol crazy
Yeah those cheap N64/SNES scart cables are garbage. Usually poor grounding and no shielding.
Most shit cheap cables (for any AV stuff) are going to have poor shielding and really bad solder joints. Belive it or not, most cheap electrical products made in china (ebay cheap) actually use lead free solder, which is odd because it costs more..
Lead solder is banned in manufacturing in a fair few places. Gotta use the lead free stuff to get your product sold.
Bob Woggle you can sell products with lead solder in them, manufacture is the isse. Plus china..
i don't think that PAL Gamecubes support component...
some do, component was part of the digital port (you can now get HDMI mods for it). The Digital port was removed on the later revisions of the gamecube.
NTSC gamecubes don't have native support for RGB however.
Dude, you dont have 480p. Pal region games have it disabled. NTSC games can be forced to display that resolution but PAL cannot.
OHHHH NOOOO MY EARSSS!!
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that shitty tv is probably what's causing this numpty's audio problem. All retro gaming set-ups start with the tv. A sony trinitron, bang and olufsen, whatever. As long as its a crt. My 21inch trinitron is the most important part of my set-up. I've been through the service menu, got a test signal dvd and got the geometry just right and through rgb scart, retro gaming doesn't look better than that.
here is my pro advice, get a classic Wii the one with the GameCube integrated and use Component to play at 480p
Vampires Crypt the PAL version of Gamecube games have 480p disabled. there’s no way to play PAL Gamecube games in 480p
NO.
@@magacop5180 hey do you know how to connect a scart cable to the tv ??
@@fabricscissors you have swiss.... before say "tHre'S nOw wAy" just search a bit...
LOL a polaroid TV
*Cheap cables from Ally Express and Wish don’t do it! Import machines needs resistors and capacitors in scart cables or explode!! I know!* 💡
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There is no difference with the official SCART cable trust me, its just more expensive because its branded by Nintendo. That crazy interference was normal for us back in the early 2000 because that was what we were used to same as with that interference we got on our CRT monitors when the mobile phone would ring xD
Vampires Crypt Actually there is a difference. Because RGB is analog, cable quality does matter to gain the optimal audio and visual quality. Name brands are the most reliable, hence why they tend to be more pricey.
They are shielded cables and there is no interference. To upgrade from the interference we thought was 'normal' is the whole point with these cables and especially with modern TV's
Why not just use a Wii and a Wii component cable for gamecube games instead of a "real" gamecube?
Gameboy player is why a bunch of people keep real gamecubes since the gameboy player cant be used on a wii
rustyblades11 That's fair
Because the signal is cleaner on gamecube and, with the right mod/device, you can get actual hdmi signal via the digital port.
It sounds like crap
Dude. The quality of sound for an AV cable or a SCART cable is EXACTLY the same, they use the same audio channel. There's not difference in quality.