That was supposedly the initial plan, but Universal Pictures decided it should only be one movie at 3 hours, then changed it again to 2.25 hours, which is what we finally got, unfortunately. 04/21/24
One thing that you missed is that there was another board game based on the book in 1979. A more compex and thematic game by Avalon Hill aimed at the board game hobby market. One of the best stories is that Herbert's lawyers was causing trouble for the board game makers and this got to Harlan Ellison, another Sci Fi Luminary (and fan of their earlier board game, Cosmic Encounter) who contacted Herbert about it. The board game creator Peter Olotka was surprised to get a phone call from Herbert who said "I hate lawyers. Don't worry, I'll take care of it " The game became a success in the hobby and has been reprinted in anticipation of the new Dune film.
A friend of mine had the AH game and I remember playing it quite a bit in the mid '80s. I was going to buy the new release but thought better of it as I was more interested out of nostalgia then it actually being a great game.
The AH game of Dune is a fantastic adaptation of the book. You play one of the main characters from the book (6 characters) and each has their own abilities. I read the book first, played the game, and then saw the movie in 1984.
@@lawrencekanserski5119 He mentioned the Parker Brothers game, not the one by Avalon Hill. There are more than a dozen Dune games and expansions for those games.
Here's a couple additions to Minty's list. First, in the long version Gurney Halleck is seen playing his Baliset, the upright stringed musical instrument. An actual working prop was built and Sting, front man for the band The Police who played Feyd Rautha in the movie, worked with Patrick Stewart to look convincing while playing it. Second, before this movie and its merchandise, there was already a Dune boardgame published by the Avalon-Hill Co. Players represented different factions with different traits in the interest of controlling Arrakis. The game was so popular among gamers that two expansions were released to simulate the spice harvest and the one-on-one kanly knife fights. After the movie had been out a while, Avalon-Hill re-released the game with new artwork for the box depicting Sting as Feyd Rautha, even though he's only in a few scenes.
Max Von Shadow's character Liet Keynes clicking sounds he made in that scene was taken from the books as Fremen are supposed to make sounds that would be considered natural clapping would have been an unnatural sound hence the tounge clicking sound
"Toto was contacted to score Dune, where they said "hold the line" and left the rains down in Africa, to create music for the science fiction epic." LMFAO
Poor guy! The Baron killed his wife for crying out loud! Of course I’m only saying this because Doctor Wellington Yueh was played by my favorite actor of all time: Dean Stockwell. Too bad, much like his second appearance in a David Lynch film (Blue Velvet), his screen time was far too short.
Here's the quote from the book, if you like. "Yueh! Yueh! Yueh!" goes the refrain, "A million deaths are not enough for Yueh!" It's one of my all time favorite lines.
I had the best timing for seeing this movie, and I think it gave me the optimal experience. I was in my early teens when this came out, and I bought the book (same cover as the personless poster) and tried to finish it before seeing the movie. I got about 3/4 of the way through the book before seeing the film, and I'd started with the appendices, so I knew about the world and most of the story going in, but had no idea how the story ended. Bonus: the ending of the movie is sufficiently different than the book that I didn't feel that the ending was spoiled.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion By the bean of the mountain thoughts aquire speed Hands begin to shake The shake becomes a warning It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion
I remember going to the theater to see this movie. As we walked in, they handed us a card explaining some of the language in the movie. Wish I kept it.
The novel Dune is one of my favorite reads. It changed the way I look at the world. I love the Dune soundtrack, definitely one of my favorites. The three hour TV version makes more sense and is much easier to watch. The SciFi miniseries was so boring that I gave up after the first hour.
Prior to the release of this film I devoured the trilogy twice, with a couple of dictionaries which were useless for the most part. And I for one was ecstatic about there finally being a film adaptation of this politically charged story and also to being able to put faces to the characters and the landscapes upon which they existed. Perhaps it was at this point in life where I came to understand that if one is interested in a media production that they should say to hell with critics opinions, or anyone else's criticism for that matter. I thoroughly enjoyed this film. I was exposed to the "hype" during the pre-release and was not disappointed. I recall attempting to speak to people about Dune when their response of "Oh yeah, that story about the worms" indicated clearly that they did not understand the story at all. It matters not that Lynch refuses to revisit this film as his handy work is clearly visible throughout this film.
@Blah Anger Ah yes... Lord of the rings. It took sooooo damn long for someone to make a film adaptation, I almost thought that they would not do it in my life time. I knew a couple of kids who liked these books. Maybe the whole worm thing didn't click with them ? It's been to long for me to recall details.
@@vicariousgamer2871 Never seen the animated version that came out in 1978? Though incomplete, I liked it a whole lot more than the Jackson movies. Much truer to the source material, in my opinion. Granted, it also left out large portions of the story, but at least it didn't add or change anything to fit an agenda.
Yeah, this came out shortly after I read the book, can't remember the timeline exactly if my knowing that a movie was coming prompted me to finally read it or it just happened that way.
My first encounter with Dune was a trade paperback from 1965 that I found in a box in 1977. I tried to read it but it was over my 12 y.o. head. I found it again in 1981 and read it twice that year. So when I heard they were making a movie, I was ecstatic. My girlfriend at the time and I went to Dune when it opened in 1984. She was confused but love the music. I didn't hate it but I didn't love it. I own a collectors DVD that has the theatrical release on one side and the extended-release on the other. As a side note, the Sci-Fi Channel's miniseries was better and closer to the book, but the David Lynch film has a darker mood that makes it edgy. Plus José Ferrer's portrayal of the Emporer is outstanding. He brought class to the film, and his acting made that part feel believable.
When this movie was in theaters, they handed out a vocabulary list of words. That was another reason it failed. People didnt want to keep checking a long list of words in a dark theater, to understand what was happening.
It turns out I didn't need the sheet, but the fact that they handed it to me said "this movie is too complicated for its own good" and ruined my attitude to it.
We never got handouts, but I had read the book several times by the time the movie was out so I did a lot of explaining during the film to my girlfriend and several others around us.
Another bonus fact: early 90's a little know game developer called Westwood made a Real Time Strategy game based on Dune, called Dune II. Westwood would go on to create the Command & Conquer series, possibly the big daddy of RTS. Dune II is the Castle Wolfenstein of the RTS genre, I remember it being quite quite fun. Also, my beloved "grim darkness" that is Warhammer 40,000 heavily borrowed from Dune, from Abominable Intelligence to the Navigators.
Yeah, exactly what I thought when I got in contact with the 40K virus - a melting pot of all the good stuff of every sf-movie you have ever seen :D I can still remember watching "Event Horizon" the very first time and I thought to myself - oh that is how it all began ... :D
@@yesyesyesyes1600 I always thought they travelled to the kindergarten warp or on second thought, maybe it's a calmer warp, with only the (bloody, pouncy, pointed eared) eldar being psykers at this point in time, and they haven't started their civilisation wide orgy yet, so maybe... lol Rogue Trader (Warhammer 40,000 1st edition) was made by throwing everything cool against a wall and see what sticks. Jes Goodwin *an Imperal choir starts singing* even confirms as much in a recent video looking at bolters (the signature Warhammer 40,000 weapon) in games, just wish I could remember the channel I saw it on.
I went to the theater to see it, and loved it. I love the expanded version more. I also have a Paul action figure, and have the Dune board game with both expansions.
He's worth $80 million so I don't think he cares much anymore. Hell he turned down directing return of the jedi despite there being a hefty paycheck. I do agree though I'd love to see it and with the villeneuve film coming out it would be perfect timing.
@@bigkmoviesandgames Very true. I guess it's just one of those things we can want, but never get. I think it would be awesome to see what Lynch's original vision was, before the studio interfered and made him cut the movie to shit. And then when they pieced the footage together to expand it for TV, they made and even bigger jumbled mess. I would love to see how he wanted it to be. That would be the like the ultimate Dune experience for me. I'm a nerd. What can I say?
@@whoami6711 Oh I definitely agree. It's a long shot but lynch hasn't done much in the last couple of years so maybe they'll make him an offer so it can come out next year. It would be great and I'd definitely buy it.
Big K I would probably be first in line to buy it. Or get a ticket if they did the awesome thing and put it in theatres for a limited run, so you could get the big screen experience with it. That would be awesomeness in itself.
The Music in Dune totally makes the movie for me. It's why I'm concerned that the new Dune will be lacking for me. I'm sure it'll be visually stunning, great special effects and performances... But I just hope the music is as good.
There were also computer games based on Dune, of which Dune II, by Westwood Studios, is considered the first real-time strategy game that followed the formula that later games in the genre (Command and Conquer, Starcraft, etc) would emulate. I find your videos entertaining and informative... Many times I'll be nodding along, acknowledging the things I already knew about. But there is usually at least one or two things in each video that I'll admit I didn't know. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work!
NGL I love this version of Dune (albeit while completely understanding Lynch's feelings in basically disowning it as his film) but I feel cheated we never got to see David Lynch's Star Wars
It had a great all star cast and epic score. It's a great old classic sci-fi movie. Also a funny side story told by Patrick Steward is when he met Sting during the filing of the movie, funny as hell.
lol, Alan Smithe is a false name used on movies when the director doesn't want his name on it. That means that David Lynch is the only director of the original Dune, and all the various cuts from theatrical to tv release are edited versions of Lynch's movie. He didn't like the tv series so they used Alan Smithe which is common in the movie business.
You should watch the documentary Jordowroski's Dune. That whole version would have been one long acid trip to Arrakis! I personally would have loved to have seen this version!
Good job as always. Read all the books as a kid was hooked on the movie. Took me years to find a DVD of the 3 hour long movie. Nice metal case with both movies.
I'm still waiting for them to release the definitive remastered 4-plus hour version of this film on Blu-Ray (dare I hope for 4K?), which is awesome and includes a lot of additional scenes. As Minty mentioned, the shorter/various previous Blu-Ray releases have been somewhat lame and the film has never really had a solid release. I compare this movie to film adaption of The Shining in the sense that, it did stray somewhat from the novel and was hated by a lot of Frank Herbert fans, but nonetheless was a very cool film in its own right. At the time (and even still today), this film got a bad rap. Considering the state of special effects at the time, I would argue that it still has very cool effects sequences. Also, though David Lynch took a lot of guff for this film, it has a very cool stylistic atmosphere and is totally cool IMO (admittedly, I AM a huge David Lynch fan, so maybe I have a bit of a bias). It's just a very cool sci-fi flick overall if you ignore the differences with the source material and skip making judgements based on preconceived notions. And because the studio hacked the film down to a run time they wanted, of course the critics felt that it was a mess - another reason to have the definitive cut. Anyway, I love this film. The books by the way are probably in the running for the best sci-fi series ever written, and deservedly so.
I had the sandworm toy as a kid! Loved it. I had it before I’d seen the movie and I remember sitting down to watch it the first time at around 8 years old with my sandworm toy waiting impatiently for it to make an appearance. Wasn’t disappointed!
From what size city/town? Phone books varied a LOT in size depending on where you lived. I grew up in a place where the phone book was under 200 pages...
My first exposure to DUNE was with the board game. I belonged to a game group in high school and we played it often. I would not see the movie for another 7 years, but I remember the characters, factions and themes so well that the game helped me understand the movie. The board game is epic, it captures the flavor and double crossing of the books very well and is short and fun to play. One interesting factoid was that the studios felt that DUNE would be too complicated for viewers to see without reading the books so they had theatric handouts that were little flyers given to ticket buyers that explained the spice, the factions and culture to help ease viewers into the story.
I'm 50 years old and DUNE (1984) is still one of my favorites. I dare say it's better than the current sensory overload blockbusters. I've watched it countless times and shall undoubtedly watch it countless more.
I read the books and loved the movie, not sure why the movie got a bad wrap it’s great! I think people just didn’t understand it because they hadn’t read the books!
Mike Taylor not trying to pick a fight here, but isn’t that the definition of a directors job? To convey a story in the visual medium? If you have to read the book to understand the movie then something isn’t right with the storytelling aspect
Still my favorite Dune incarnation. I was fascinated by this movie as a kid - I either recorded it off a movie channel or rented a copy of it to watch with some family and I remember the adults being kinda "meh" about it, like "this is so weird" or "wow, this a LONG movie" or just being generally dismissive about it as adults usually were with sci-fi that they didn't really 'get'. I was frustrated that I seemed to be the only one who thought it was brilliant and epic and watched it a few times.
This has always been one of my all-time favorite movies from the 80's. I love how Minty digs in and covers all the production worst of such films. I'm trying to get an indie of my own office the ground, and keep reflecting back on Minty episodes when things burn down around me....😆
I loved this at theater... FOR HE IS ..LOL... That lil red headed actress is still acting till this day , she's beautiful... I hope the new one is just as good or better..
That's like saying if only the proper film making tech for the SW Prequels had existed in the 80s instead of waiting until the 90s, just imagine the possibilities.
@Kaagh178 For me personally, half the reason I enjoy Lynch's Dune is just how twisted it was. I think in a perfect world as I imagined it, we would have had Jodorowsky's Dune and Lynch's Return of the Jedi
Hey Minty I have watched your videos for a while. But on this video I feel you took inspiration from my comment to a video about dune awhile ago on the star wars aspect but. Another great video.
David Lynch's 'DUNE' is one of those immersive films that draws you in so completely that it's hard to walk out of the theater and return to the 'real world'. It's so profound and otherworldly that it takes a few minutes to reintegrate yourself back into reality. A big chunk of your mind wants to stay mesmerized in the red velvet theater seats until Stilgar lets you join the seitch and Chani turns and asks you the big question... "Tell me of your homeworld Usul."
Lynch's movie had amazing atmosphere, it supplements the book very well. The TV series was week, too clean and plastic, and frankly I felt it had nothing of the atmosphere of the movie
Yip. It was clearly made-for-tv. Costumes, not outfits. Sets, not worlds. Stage-dressing not a universe’s rich history. It cheapened itself by contrasting so weakly with the atmosphere of Lynch’s budget blow-out.
So, it's really a "13 Things You Didn't Know About Dune". And not "8 Things You Didn't Know Plus 2 You Already Knew". But "10 Things... " do sound better.
Bill Sienkiewicz I knew it, lol. One of the best comic artist of the 80s. I thought that who it wuz i had to freeze frame, as you went by so fast. thanks for that info.
Lynch read the novel. He wrote how many drafts of the screenplay on his own? Like 20? Plus, Herbert was available to him as kind of an advisor. Jodorowsky claims he didn't even bother to read the novel, however, which is totally bizarre.
For the most part they tried to stay accurate to the novel, but there are a few differences, such as how the Harkonnens were portayed and the introduction of 'sound' weapons, instead of trying to explain the rivalry between the major houses. I think this was to simplify it for the average movie goer, but I think it still was a bit much for most people to understand.
Its always first thing in the morning here in America when you post your videos... Best part of waking up is Minty in your cup... I'm sorry, I'll see myself out
The books and films are so far apart especially with the story aspect. I enjoy them both and love the toto soundtrack. The book is very heavy reading but good.
Yes. May I say there is a tremendous opportunity for both a story and an apolitical movement to use the mojo of this story to encourage us to blend the pagan and Christian ideas of ecological conservation. That topic has been harmed by climate change marketing. Imagine if you could make a film that got kids to pick up trash and recycle with the same furvor we wasted on role playing these fantasies. I always wanted to make movies that encouraged us to take real action in our real lives but that wasn't cultural Marxist propaganda like these star wars flops.
@NinjaRider777R where might one find this mythical 5 hour cut of dune?. I know ther was a 3+ hour version with the animated prologue originally released but it was quickly shortened so theatres could have more viewings. I have never been able to find a 5 hour version though.
I'm surprised e didn't bring up anything at the end about any sort of excitement for the new Dune coming out later this year (Let's hope it doesn't get delayed!)
Hey Minty, another fantastic video. Don't know how old you are but I was 18 when I saw this movie in 1984. The theater even handed out a glossary of terms from the film but even with that it was difficult to follow along. That being said it has become one of my all time favorite films, as I got older I learned to appreciate and enjoy it immensely.
As do I, plus an original print edition Dune Encyclopedia! It's my prize book in my collection. That and Red Star Tales, which I helped publish! Check it out, you like Dune you'll love weird scifi from behind the Iron Curtain.
No...😀 I want to know more about Red star tales & thought the publishing part was cool👍 . I'm an artist & have collections myself. I wasn't being sarcastic or anything.👍😀
I'm with you. My son is 10 and he got me to appreciate them. He hates that I enjoy the sillier ones where Godzilla has a son named Manilla that is stupid comic relief.
I was 13 years old when the movie came out. It was hard to watch in junior high but I picked up on it when I was 20. A great film to kick back and drink some water of life to. A friend mine said " these people aren't very bright." Yeah , he was right . In 2010 I found myself doing gate guard in Afghanistan so I started watching it again. Nothing can help you pass the time like imagining a sandworm tearing up the airstrip.
A very underrated film. It should have been made in two parts.
LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS!
That was supposedly the initial plan, but Universal Pictures decided it should only be one movie at 3 hours, then changed it again to 2.25 hours, which is what we finally got, unfortunately.
04/21/24
I enjoyed this as a child , rewatched it as an adult and frickin LOVE IT!!
Really? What about it?
The new one looks awesome
Sqausht Suspension
The reboot does look pretty freaking great too.
I watched this as a kid as well and still enjoy this film.. *fear is the mind killer
There are trailers for the remake of Dune out now that's starting Jason Mamoma and zendaya coming out in Christmas.
One thing that you missed is that there was another board game based on the book in 1979. A more compex and thematic game by Avalon Hill aimed at the board game hobby market. One of the best stories is that Herbert's lawyers was causing trouble for the board game makers and this got to Harlan Ellison, another Sci Fi Luminary (and fan of their earlier board game, Cosmic Encounter) who contacted Herbert about it. The board game creator Peter Olotka was surprised to get a phone call from Herbert who said "I hate lawyers. Don't worry, I'll take care of it " The game became a success in the hobby and has been reprinted in anticipation of the new Dune film.
A friend of mine had the AH game and I remember playing it quite a bit in the mid '80s. I was going to buy the new release but thought better of it as I was more interested out of nostalgia then it actually being a great game.
The AH game of Dune is a fantastic adaptation of the book. You play one of the main characters from the book (6 characters) and each has their own abilities. I read the book first, played the game, and then saw the movie in 1984.
He commented on it.
Okay, now this is the very definition of "Fun Fact". Thank you for that, i never knew any of this, er, fun fact.
@@lawrencekanserski5119 He mentioned the Parker Brothers game, not the one by Avalon Hill. There are more than a dozen Dune games and expansions for those games.
Here's a couple additions to Minty's list. First, in the long version Gurney Halleck is seen playing his Baliset, the upright stringed musical instrument. An actual working prop was built and Sting, front man for the band The Police who played Feyd Rautha in the movie, worked with Patrick Stewart to look convincing while playing it.
Second, before this movie and its merchandise, there was already a Dune boardgame published by the Avalon-Hill Co. Players represented different factions with different traits in the interest of controlling Arrakis. The game was so popular among gamers that two expansions were released to simulate the spice harvest and the one-on-one kanly knife fights. After the movie had been out a while, Avalon-Hill re-released the game with new artwork for the box depicting Sting as Feyd Rautha, even though he's only in a few scenes.
Max Von Shadow's character Liet Keynes clicking sounds he made in that scene was taken from the books as Fremen are supposed to make sounds that would be considered natural clapping would have been an unnatural sound hence the tounge clicking sound
"Toto was contacted to score Dune, where they said "hold the line" and left the rains down in Africa, to create music for the science fiction epic."
LMFAO
Ya, they did not want to do the score. They were too afraid to leave rock music. But happy they did. The ST is great.
" A million deaths is not enough for Yueh." Lady Jessica
Poor guy! The Baron killed his wife for crying out loud! Of course I’m only saying this because Doctor Wellington Yueh was played by my favorite actor of all time: Dean Stockwell.
Too bad, much like his second appearance in a David Lynch film (Blue Velvet), his screen time was far too short.
@@Lesley_RedRhody "She lives?" Dr. Wellington Yueh
"There is no escape - we pay for the violence of our ancestors."
Here's the quote from the book, if you like.
"Yueh! Yueh! Yueh!" goes the refrain, "A million deaths are not enough for Yueh!"
It's one of my all time favorite lines.
Dr. Fauci = Dr. Yueh?!
I had the best timing for seeing this movie, and I think it gave me the optimal experience. I was in my early teens when this came out, and I bought the book (same cover as the personless poster) and tried to finish it before seeing the movie. I got about 3/4 of the way through the book before seeing the film, and I'd started with the appendices, so I knew about the world and most of the story going in, but had no idea how the story ended.
Bonus: the ending of the movie is sufficiently different than the book that I didn't feel that the ending was spoiled.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion
By the bean of the mountain thoughts aquire speed
Hands begin to shake
The shake becomes a warning
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion
Brad Dourif reciting the Spice lines.. a very underrated part of the movie.. Your version is great too!..
@@4tuneagent Oh man he played Piter just right. Love or hate the movie, he will always be Piter DeVries!
Mentat coffee ritual.
The bean is the brew. The brew is the bean. Still, one's water is the tribe's.
Bless the coffee maker and its water. Bless the bubbling and gurgling of him. May his brew wake the world.
"Minty, the sleeper has awakened!"
So ... is he now woke? :O
Ya hya chouhada!
Awakened?
The music always got me to like the movie... I always had a copy of the score and still have it on my phone. It's such great vibes to hear it.
Do you have the Complete 33-track edition? It's great.
Ever had the pleasure of listening to big battle in a airplane during take off? Such a awesome epic experience.
I am quite a fan of Eno myself. But not when teamed up with Fripp.
I remember going to the theater to see this movie. As we walked in, they handed us a card explaining some of the language in the movie. Wish I kept it.
I remember this as well. I'm sure most of those cards were left on the floor of the theater
@@martyjones7225 Yes on the floor with popcorn, candy-wrappers and spilled drinks too.
The novel Dune is one of my favorite reads. It changed the way I look at the world.
I love the Dune soundtrack, definitely one of my favorites.
The three hour TV version makes more sense and is much easier to watch.
The SciFi miniseries was so boring that I gave up after the first hour.
I enjoyed the mini series, and the Children of Dune mini series is what introduced me to James McAvoy
When I was growing up I always thought this was one strange movie that I couldn't quite wrap my head around. Although I did like the sandworms though.
Yeah me too. It was too graphic and I found it kinda disturbing. I still feel that way about certain parts.
The first time I saw it I was 10 I got it, but by that point I'd seem so much syfi/fantasy it was easy to get
I found it was easy to get into as I was a huge Patrick Stewart fan. Basically the only one I could identify as a child. Good times
every one loves sand worms and secretly wants to ride one
Same here.
Prior to the release of this film I devoured the trilogy twice, with a couple of dictionaries which were useless for the most part. And I for one was ecstatic about there finally being a film adaptation of this politically charged story and also to being able to put faces to the characters and the landscapes upon which they existed. Perhaps it was at this point in life where I came to understand that if one is interested in a media production that they should say to hell with critics opinions, or anyone else's criticism for that matter. I thoroughly enjoyed this film. I was exposed to the "hype" during the pre-release and was not disappointed. I recall attempting to speak to people about Dune when their response of "Oh yeah, that story about the worms" indicated clearly that they did not understand the story at all. It matters not that Lynch refuses to revisit this film as his handy work is clearly visible throughout this film.
Totally agree with you on everything noted. Loved the books and the movie, even with its flaws.
@Blah Anger Ah yes... Lord of the rings. It took sooooo damn long for someone to make a film adaptation, I almost thought that they would not do it in my life time. I knew a couple of kids who liked these books. Maybe the whole worm thing didn't click with them ? It's been to long for me to recall details.
@@vicariousgamer2871 Never seen the animated version that came out in 1978? Though incomplete, I liked it a whole lot more than the Jackson movies. Much truer to the source material, in my opinion. Granted, it also left out large portions of the story, but at least it didn't add or change anything to fit an agenda.
@@Lucklaran Agreed
Yeah, this came out shortly after I read the book, can't remember the timeline exactly if my knowing that a movie was coming prompted me to finally read it or it just happened that way.
My first encounter with Dune was a trade paperback from 1965 that I found in a box in 1977. I tried to read it but it was over my 12 y.o. head. I found it again in 1981 and read it twice that year. So when I heard they were making a movie, I was ecstatic. My girlfriend at the time and I went to Dune when it opened in 1984. She was confused but love the music. I didn't hate it but I didn't love it. I own a collectors DVD that has the theatrical release on one side and the extended-release on the other. As a side note, the Sci-Fi Channel's miniseries was better and closer to the book, but the David Lynch film has a darker mood that makes it edgy. Plus José Ferrer's portrayal of the Emporer is outstanding. He brought class to the film, and his acting made that part feel believable.
I would love to see a director's cut and I know I'm not the only one.
Agreed
A director's cut, especially one that had all of the deleted scenes put back in would make it a lot easier to understand the storyline
There is a 2 disc DVD that includes the theatrical and director`s cut vertion of Dune
Is there anyone here who wants and will demand the 14 hour binge blockbuster! Lol
@@mauriciocespedes2066 Yes! That was the 30th Anniversary special combo pack if I remember correctly.
It sucked, no matter which version it still sucked, even David Lynch said it sucked.
11th thing you didn't know:
The singer MICHAEL BOLTON playing the drums at 11.10
JAYSON Is it really him? Certainly looks like MB.
Does look like him
10 things you didn't know about
D. A. R. Y. L
Yes, I saw that the other day on Pluto TV and was surprised how well it holds up.
Data
Analyzing
Robot
Youth
Lifeform
Wow, there's a blast from the past!
Researching that would be pretty impressive.
Did you know the same director also did Free Willy?
I loved this movie since the 80's and I named my oldest son Feyd lol
When this movie was in theaters, they handed out a vocabulary list of words. That was another reason it failed. People didnt want to keep checking a long list of words in a dark theater, to understand what was happening.
It turns out I didn't need the sheet, but the fact that they handed it to me said "this movie is too complicated for its own good" and ruined my attitude to it.
First I’ve heard of this. FFS the 80s were terrible.
I totally forgot about that. I wish that I still had it.
They had 21 years to read the novel. So the failing was totally on them.
We never got handouts, but I had read the book several times by the time the movie was out so I did a lot of explaining during the film to my girlfriend and several others around us.
Another bonus fact: early 90's a little know game developer called Westwood made a Real Time Strategy game based on Dune, called Dune II. Westwood would go on to create the Command & Conquer series, possibly the big daddy of RTS. Dune II is the Castle Wolfenstein of the RTS genre, I remember it being quite quite fun.
Also, my beloved "grim darkness" that is Warhammer 40,000 heavily borrowed from Dune, from Abominable Intelligence to the Navigators.
Yeah, exactly what I thought when I got in contact with the 40K virus - a melting pot of all the good stuff of every sf-movie you have ever seen :D
I can still remember watching "Event Horizon" the very first time and I thought to myself - oh that is how it all began ... :D
@@yesyesyesyes1600 I always thought they travelled to the kindergarten warp or on second thought, maybe it's a calmer warp, with only the (bloody, pouncy, pointed eared) eldar being psykers at this point in time, and they haven't started their civilisation wide orgy yet, so maybe... lol Rogue Trader (Warhammer 40,000 1st edition) was made by throwing everything cool against a wall and see what sticks. Jes Goodwin *an Imperal choir starts singing* even confirms as much in a recent video looking at bolters (the signature Warhammer 40,000 weapon) in games, just wish I could remember the channel I saw it on.
40k wouldn’t exist at all without Dune. It’s the skeleton all the other sci-fi tropes are hung upon.
was that the one where you mined space and had to fight off the bad guys with the guns that you bought ? And worms would chase your mining ships....
@@fluffybunny3178 aye, could be, with graphics so pixelated you could barely see the units lol
I went to the theater to see it, and loved it. I love the expanded version more. I also have a Paul action figure, and have the Dune board game with both expansions.
I have a Paul action figure too.
Wait, Theres Malcolm McDowell tablets? You really can get anything on the Dark web.
"The TOOTH. Remember the TOOTH"
- pure David Lynch... Always love and giggle at this line... Dune is Classic!
That's actually dialogue from the book.
4:40, imagine if the directed Star Wars.... Man, that will be mind boggling! Lol!!
What?
Dune was one of Lucas's inspirations
His story of how he met George Lucas was hilarious.
I would love to see David Lynch’s original 3 hour film. Or his Directors Cut! He doesn’t realize the money he’s throwing away by not making it.
He's worth $80 million so I don't think he cares much anymore. Hell he turned down directing return of the jedi despite there being a hefty paycheck. I do agree though I'd love to see it and with the villeneuve film coming out it would be perfect timing.
@@bigkmoviesandgames Very true. I guess it's just one of those things we can want, but never get. I think it would be awesome to see what Lynch's original vision was, before the studio interfered and made him cut the movie to shit. And then when they pieced the footage together to expand it for TV, they made and even bigger jumbled mess. I would love to see how he wanted it to be. That would be the like the ultimate Dune experience for me. I'm a nerd. What can I say?
@@whoami6711
Oh I definitely agree. It's a long shot but lynch hasn't done much in the last couple of years so maybe they'll make him an offer so it can come out next year. It would be great and I'd definitely buy it.
Big K I would probably be first in line to buy it. Or get a ticket if they did the awesome thing and put it in theatres for a limited run, so you could get the big screen experience with it. That would be awesomeness in itself.
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I agree. I always love seeing re-releases on the big screen especially if it's something as unique as this.
The Music in Dune totally makes the movie for me. It's why I'm concerned that the new Dune will be lacking for me. I'm sure it'll be visually stunning, great special effects and performances... But I just hope the music is as good.
The Baron Harkonen 'the flying fatman' is glorious in this film. 👍
Bonus #4: One of the first RTS' (real time strategy game).
I think it might have been the very first one
@james cowboy only on pc, DUNE 2000 is best one though there are modded games made into Dune that are cool too
Sega!!!!
@@kennethcarpenterii7636 oh yah forgot they had it man i miss SEGA
Yes it's what gave the idea for the Command and Conquer RTS. Put the 2 side by side and they almost identical.
There were also computer games based on Dune, of which Dune II, by Westwood Studios, is considered the first real-time strategy game that followed the formula that later games in the genre (Command and Conquer, Starcraft, etc) would emulate.
I find your videos entertaining and informative... Many times I'll be nodding along, acknowledging the things I already knew about. But there is usually at least one or two things in each video that I'll admit I didn't know. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work!
NGL I love this version of Dune (albeit while completely understanding Lynch's feelings in basically disowning it as his film) but I feel cheated we never got to see David Lynch's Star Wars
It had a great all star cast and epic score. It's a great old classic sci-fi movie.
Also a funny side story told by Patrick Steward is when he met Sting during the filing of the movie, funny as hell.
One of my favourite movies. I hope you talk about the Alan Smithe version, lynch didn’t like the introduction but it’s still the best way to watch it.
lol, Alan Smithe is a false name used on movies when the director doesn't want his name on it. That means that David Lynch is the only director of the original Dune, and all the various cuts from theatrical to tv release are edited versions of Lynch's movie. He didn't like the tv series so they used Alan Smithe which is common in the movie business.
Seeing your show has lead me watching and rewatching alot of great movies. Thank you Minty
"Take My Hand" in credits is Toto's greatest song...a masterpiece of classical elegance.
A Dune with H. R. Giger designing things? Now that would be a mind trip. :D
You should watch the documentary Jordowroski's Dune. That whole version would have been one long acid trip to Arrakis! I personally would have loved to have seen this version!
Good job as always.
Read all the books as a kid was hooked on the movie. Took me years to find a DVD of the 3 hour long movie. Nice metal case with both movies.
Hold on, the upcoming film is a remake of this?
Harrison Allen yes. Modern remake of Dune. Being done in 2 movies as was the original idea. First trailer is out, if you did not know.
@@undeadmonkey9122 I’ve seen it, instantly gave me Star Wars vibes
@@harrisonallen651 no....its an adaptation of the original Novel, not a remake of the 1984 film.
@@harrisonallen651 what a fucking stupid thing to say.
"He who controls the spice, controls the universe!"
I love the Baron Harkonnen
One of the best performances in the film. The actor who played the Baron knocked it out of the park.
@@xenofett7008 Some call him OTT but that's the point of his performance. Chewing scenery was just another example of his ravenous appetites
"The Spice must flow!"
One who can destroy a thing, controls a thing.
I was waiting for a long time for this review... Well done !!!
Thanks for all the work you do.
:)
Looks like Sting was the major selling point in the Japanese market.
I'm still waiting for them to release the definitive remastered 4-plus hour version of this film on Blu-Ray (dare I hope for 4K?), which is awesome and includes a lot of additional scenes. As Minty mentioned, the shorter/various previous Blu-Ray releases have been somewhat lame and the film has never really had a solid release.
I compare this movie to film adaption of The Shining in the sense that, it did stray somewhat from the novel and was hated by a lot of Frank Herbert fans, but nonetheless was a very cool film in its own right. At the time (and even still today), this film got a bad rap. Considering the state of special effects at the time, I would argue that it still has very cool effects sequences. Also, though David Lynch took a lot of guff for this film, it has a very cool stylistic atmosphere and is totally cool IMO (admittedly, I AM a huge David Lynch fan, so maybe I have a bit of a bias). It's just a very cool sci-fi flick overall if you ignore the differences with the source material and skip making judgements based on preconceived notions. And because the studio hacked the film down to a run time they wanted, of course the critics felt that it was a mess - another reason to have the definitive cut. Anyway, I love this film.
The books by the way are probably in the running for the best sci-fi series ever written, and deservedly so.
spice divers edit is all you can hope for, its easy to find.
Hey thanks for this Minty! Loved Dune and rewatch it every year
I had the sandworm toy as a kid! Loved it. I had it before I’d seen the movie and I remember sitting down to watch it the first time at around 8 years old with my sandworm toy waiting impatiently for it to make an appearance. Wasn’t disappointed!
3:30, I heard that the original screenplay was the size of a phone book.
Michael Ironside owns it.
From what size city/town? Phone books varied a LOT in size depending on where you lived.
I grew up in a place where the phone book was under 200 pages...
I loved the movie. Watch the extended cut. It explains so much more.
My first exposure to DUNE was with the board game. I belonged to a game group in high school and we played it often. I would not see the movie for another 7 years, but I remember the characters, factions and themes so well that the game helped me understand the movie. The board game is epic, it captures the flavor and double crossing of the books very well and is short and fun to play. One interesting factoid was that the studios felt that DUNE would be too complicated for viewers to see without reading the books so they had theatric handouts that were little flyers given to ticket buyers that explained the spice, the factions and culture to help ease viewers into the story.
Love your sense of humor. Keep up the great work!
Crazy... i literally just watched this for the first time like 2 days ago
Get out of my head minty!!
"Too much going on"
That will happen when a 4 hr movie is stuffed into 2 hrs
About time you did this
I'm 50 years old and DUNE (1984) is still one of my favorites. I dare say it's better than the current sensory overload blockbusters. I've watched it countless times and shall undoubtedly watch it countless more.
OMFG u did Dune thank you kind sir /bow
I read the books and loved the movie, not sure why the movie got a bad wrap it’s great!
I think people just didn’t understand it because they hadn’t read the books!
If they read the pamphlet that was given out at the theater they would have understood the movie.
Mike Taylor not trying to pick a fight here, but isn’t that the definition of a directors job? To convey a story in the visual medium? If you have to read the book to understand the movie then something isn’t right with the storytelling aspect
I had the toys when the movie came out.
I read the book before watching the movie too, and still didn't find the movie very good.
It’s a great movie iconic of the 80s.
Great job on this excited to see what the new does
Thanks for this one!!
Paul Atreides watches some Dragon Ball Z, pulls out sound weapon: KAMEHAMEHA!
Still my favorite Dune incarnation. I was fascinated by this movie as a kid - I either recorded it off a movie channel or rented a copy of it to watch with some family and I remember the adults being kinda "meh" about it, like "this is so weird" or "wow, this a LONG movie" or just being generally dismissive about it as adults usually were with sci-fi that they didn't really 'get'. I was frustrated that I seemed to be the only one who thought it was brilliant and epic and watched it a few times.
Nice work as always Minty - keep in up 🖖
This has always been one of my all-time favorite movies from the 80's. I love how Minty digs in and covers all the production worst of such films. I'm trying to get an indie of my own office the ground, and keep reflecting back on Minty episodes when things burn down around me....😆
I loved this movie as a kid, and I love it still.
I loved this at theater... FOR HE IS ..LOL... That lil red headed actress is still acting till this day , she's beautiful... I hope the new one is just as good or better..
Lynch Dune was my introduction to the Dune universe . It will always be a favorite of mine.
I saw the movie as a kid before reading the book. After the book I was disappointed with the movie
I definitely learned a couple things. You forgot to mention Michael Bolton was in there on the drum beat!
If Jodorowsky had made Dune in a post Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings World, he might have been able to do a trilogy. If only.
From what I heard I'm glad that Jodorowsky didn't make Dune.
And it would of been 10hrs
That's like saying if only the proper film making tech for the SW Prequels had existed in the 80s instead of waiting until the 90s, just imagine the possibilities.
@Kaagh178 For me personally, half the reason I enjoy Lynch's Dune is just how twisted it was. I think in a perfect world as I imagined it, we would have had Jodorowsky's Dune and Lynch's Return of the Jedi
I love that when Judo saw Lynch's dune he was like, "well that sucked"
Minty has uploaded a big one! Again, it is the Legend!
Hey Minty I have watched your videos for a while. But on this video I feel you took inspiration from my comment to a video about dune awhile ago on the star wars aspect but. Another great video.
David Lynch's 'DUNE' is one of those immersive films that draws you in so completely that it's hard to walk out of the theater and return to the 'real world'.
It's so profound and otherworldly that it takes a few minutes to reintegrate yourself back into reality.
A big chunk of your mind wants to stay mesmerized in the red velvet theater seats until Stilgar lets you join the seitch and Chani turns and asks you the big question...
"Tell me of your homeworld Usul."
Lynch's movie had amazing atmosphere, it supplements the book very well. The TV series was week, too clean and plastic, and frankly I felt it had nothing of the atmosphere of the movie
Completely agree. Loved it when first saw the movie as a teen, weaknesses and all. The mini-series was good, but felt flat.
@@n.d.m.515 Perhaps it was too clean? Lynch's universe felt "lived in'.
@@spacedinosaur8733 that is the reason. The lines were also delivered like a stage play.
The sci fi channel version felt like it was a high school play.
Yip. It was clearly made-for-tv. Costumes, not outfits. Sets, not worlds. Stage-dressing not a universe’s rich history.
It cheapened itself by contrasting so weakly with the atmosphere of Lynch’s budget blow-out.
The Sci-Fi versions are so much closer to the books. They lack that Lynchian insanity that makes the 84 version so neat but is still very good.
I’ve always been fascinated by this movie. The good and the bad. It’s so much its own thing.
I wasn't even done laughing at the "2 things you already knew"... when the "number 10, based on a book" hit! LOL! 😂
So, it's really a "13 Things You Didn't Know About Dune". And not "8 Things You Didn't Know Plus 2 You Already Knew".
But "10 Things... " do sound better.
Minty was right about me knowing some of those things.
Another interesting fact is the link the Atreides has with the House of Atreus (Agamemnon is one).
Bill Sienkiewicz I knew it, lol. One of the best comic artist of the 80s. I thought that who it wuz i had to freeze frame, as you went by so fast. thanks for that info.
- As a teen, this movie was something different, but cool.
- "The Coffee Prayer" still holds up
Anytime the director doesn't read the book, it's not a good sign.
Then again John Ford said that he never read "The Grapes of Wrath."
@@pbcoop62 There's also Starship Troopers
Lynch read the novel. He wrote how many drafts of the screenplay on his own? Like 20? Plus, Herbert was available to him as kind of an advisor. Jodorowsky claims he didn't even
bother to read the novel, however, which is totally bizarre.
Blade Runner turned out great, although the director didn't read the whole thing
Which helps explain why Paul is too old in the movie and the weirding modules (ugh)
For the most part they tried to stay accurate to the novel, but there are a few differences, such as how the Harkonnens were portayed and the introduction of 'sound' weapons, instead of trying to explain the rivalry between the major houses.
I think this was to simplify it for the average movie goer, but I think it still was a bit much for most people to understand.
One of my all time favorite movies. Got the DVD, Soundtracks and the SCI-FI remakes.
Man I looooovvve Bill Sienkiwics art, I had no idea he did the dune comic but I recognized his style from the first frame of it.
For all the rock/metal music lovers out there... I advise you to listen to "To Tame A Land" by Iron Maiden... Best Dune song ever!!!
Yes, Frank Herbert wouldn't let them call it "Dune"
Its always first thing in the morning here in America when you post your videos... Best part of waking up is Minty in your cup... I'm sorry, I'll see myself out
I love minty too but he can get his gorgeous ass out of my cup.
The minty must fllow
@@wizard3z868 Minty is the MIND KILLER (or, MIND BLOWER with all his cool reviews)!
I will always be grateful for the series for giving me not only the original RTS... But for giving Emperor battle for dune it's follow up
Man, what would a Lynch version of RotJ look like? I'm thinking the ewoks would look more like that little potato baby!!!
The books and films are so far apart especially with the story aspect. I enjoy them both and love the toto soundtrack. The book is very heavy reading but good.
Yes. May I say there is a tremendous opportunity for both a story and an apolitical movement to use the mojo of this story to encourage us to blend the pagan and Christian ideas of ecological conservation.
That topic has been harmed by climate change marketing.
Imagine if you could make a film that got kids to pick up trash and recycle with the same furvor we wasted on role playing these fantasies.
I always wanted to make movies that encouraged us to take real action in our real lives but that wasn't cultural Marxist propaganda like these star wars flops.
@NinjaRider777R where might one find this mythical 5 hour cut of dune?. I know ther was a 3+ hour version with the animated prologue originally released but it was quickly shortened so theatres could have more viewings. I have never been able to find a 5 hour version though.
@NinjaRider777R there is no 5 hour cut. You are mistaken and stupid.
@@dustigin a 5 hour cut doesn't exist.
I enjoy any book with the heroic lead named Paul.
Keep up the good work Minty.
"Dooouuueeeeen" I friggin love your accent
Dude i thought you took a break, take your break my friend 🤗
I'm surprised e didn't bring up anything at the end about any sort of excitement for the new Dune coming out later this year (Let's hope it doesn't get delayed!)
Well as you know it was delayed and it is a 2 part movie like Ridley Scott wanted with an amazing cast. really hyped.
Hey Minty, another fantastic video. Don't know how old you are but I was 18 when I saw this movie in 1984. The theater even handed out a glossary of terms from the film but even with that it was difficult to follow along. That being said it has become one of my all time favorite films, as I got older I learned to appreciate and enjoy it immensely.
I enjoyed it, and will watch it if i see it is on!
1:50, I have all the books in my collection.
As do I, plus an original print edition Dune Encyclopedia! It's my prize book in my collection. That and Red Star Tales, which I helped publish! Check it out, you like Dune you'll love weird scifi from behind the Iron Curtain.
@@sid2112 cool 👍
@@nel9357 sorry, I reread this and saw how it came off. I wasn't trying to one up you. I was just excited about Red Star Tales.
No...😀 I want to know more about Red star tales & thought the publishing part was cool👍 . I'm an artist & have collections myself. I wasn't being sarcastic or anything.👍😀
I would like to see some videos on my favorite movies called Godzilla, from the first one to the latest one. He’s my favorite movie monster.
I'm with you. My son is 10 and he got me to appreciate them. He hates that I enjoy the sillier ones where Godzilla has a son named Manilla that is stupid comic relief.
Check out Brandon tenolds channel - he loves Godzilla 👍
@@chadwarren9677 I love when Godzilla doe the flying kick sliding on his tail!
I was 13 years old when the movie came out. It was hard to watch in junior high but I picked up on it when I was 20. A great film to kick back and drink some water of life to. A friend mine said " these people aren't very bright." Yeah , he was right . In 2010 I found myself doing gate guard in Afghanistan so I started watching it again. Nothing can help you pass the time like imagining a sandworm tearing up the airstrip.
Wooohooo minty is back!!
Dune and Blade Runner are still two of my favorite movies. I watched them both as a kid to the point that I ruined both tapes..lol.
I have these two cinematic posters in my bedroom, side by side.
Do "o brother where art thou " please!!
Hell yes!
Always liked this movie. Of course I was 10 when it came out. Made me become obsessed with the books. Can not wait for the new movie.
"Sting looks like he's taken his Malcom McDowell tablets". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I had to hit pause on that comment as I was laughing too hard.
Goes to show you that 80s critics and audience didn't know good movies when they saw it. Dune is a piece of art.