It woukd be interesting to see a navy pov when a ship was out at sea and no radio contact. The hellhole they must have returned to. The last ship deals with this very well and would be a good grounding point to base on.
It would definitely be chaos, especially when the sailors realize that no supply ships have been around in a while to restock on supplies for their ship.
If you've ever read "On the Beach" by Neville Shute it covers the perspective of the last operational US nuclear sub following a nuclear war trying to survive as the wave of radiation slowly moves south from the Northern hemisphere. Obviously a different reality, but the trauma of everyone involved is significant as they try and make contact with anyone left in the US while maintaining a semblance of command structure. Any naval task force at sea, from any country, would obviously be impacted. They'd not be infected and would know, at least initially, what was happening. But how long they could get information and direction would vary. We do know that the President remained in charge for a while, but how well communications held up for existing military forces we don't know. Any ships returning to the US would obviously be susceptible to infection. Even months after the initial outbreak. What would they do? Without resupply they couldn't stay at sea indefinitely. But imagine a ballistic missile submarine on patrol. Designed not to have contact for 2-3 months only to return to base and find out this had happened. Who knows what those folks would do. Something unexplored currently.
If you think about it it's crazy how the division series essentially had the idea of like how the covid pandemic was at the start before everything relaxed.
Frighteningly enough, if covid had been like the Black Plague that destroyed Europe and Central Asia; we would have experienced seven out of ten death rates worldwide. Those numbers could be recovered from, but it would take centuries to do so, and I shudder to think of the violence that would happen to reestablish power and civilization.
@@stormer9952 We were lucky that covid wasn't a sincerely unique and deadly virus. It was very contagious but still only affected specific people in such a disastrous way. If there is ever an outbreak of a virus that is equally as deadly and doesn't discriminate - like a smallpox strain - a situation like outlined in The Division is totally believable. There's a reason the smartest people on the planet seem to agree that the biggest threat to human annihilation is a global viral pandemic. I think it would take a legitimate attack like the green poison narrative rather than just a natural outbreak, it would have to hit a lot of places at the same time, but it's a scary possibility.
@@stormer9952 Yea I think media sensationalism and misinformation very quickly caused panic during the initial stages. But the vaccines came out and the pandemic progressed, people realised it wasn't as deadly as it was thought to be. We missed a bullet here. If the virus was 10 times or 100 times deadlier than it was, then I think we could have quite possibly tasted societal and economic collapse.
JTF are basically what remains of first responders units (Police, Firefighters, and EMS), CERA (in universe version of FEMA) mixed together with National Guard Troops. With some Volunteers as well.
I thought about an allied faction for a division 3: A remnant of the National Guard bolstered by a militia in California. They’re beset by three larger enemy factions but because the NG have the better gear, they’ve managed to hold out, but are unable to expand to nearby areas. At least until the agents there are activated.
I’m honestly hoping for Chicago if we got another game, Ubisoft has a complete Chicago build from WD1, literally could be an asset flip if they really wanted to
@@crypticbaittrue a lot of cities could be good for the division universe hell we could potentially even see some from Canada in a rehashed tracking rouge agent story
@@usernamepassword236 Would be cool to have a mission in the campaign/story where you have to go to another country to rescue precious research or rescue a high value target. I think the world outside America has been pretty underrated in the Division universe
I imagine there’s going to be something similar in Heartland’s story, since I remember hearing that the developers wanted to show how the green poison hit smaller towns compared to large areas like NY and DC.
I think the problem was they took too long to bring order to the city, then again they didn't know what they were up against. Just goes to show you how much power the people have when they come together, the military and others would have a hard time. Div has one of the best storyline in gaming and i absolutely love it, great video mate
I always enjoy watching NGN's videos but the question that has always been killing me is mainly the transition to the 2nd Division. We ended up cutting the heads off of the Cleaners, Rikers, and LMB, then ended up clearing out their heavily defended areas in NY in the 1st Division and had multiple dlcs after it to keep it replayable. But the thing that I always wondered is what happened to our agent after the first Division. There was no explanation as to what happened to the character we play as with the transition. we basically fast forward to helping out another Division agent defend against rag tag enemies right before the comms went dark and the LMB invaded. Especially when Warlords of New York dropped and Keener destroyed the main area we spent all our time building and fortifying in the 1st Division there's so many questions surrounding that one building and what happened to agents and other people that survived the attack.
From what I've read and seen elsewhere is at somepoint after the first game when Dr. Kandall finds the makings of a cure for green poison (broad-spectrum antivirals) she heads to Ann Arbor which she mentions in a div 1 cutscene about soon having a cure and that they are better suited to create a cure in ann arbor hence why she ends up going and isnt seen in WONY and your division 1 agent traveled with her there as a means of her escort and protect and hence why he isnt around so it would be cool if in another DLC or main division game you could see your agent as a named character like kelso and faye or be able to reprise your role as him or maybe even have a game in the area of ann arbor
@@Nick-oh6ms Thanks that was always annoyed me because it was never straight forward I have multiple characters and had no idea that's where it was at. With that being said why is it the other division operative arrived in DC a few seasons ago without any sign of Dr.Kandall? I would assume she would be as important as the broad spectrum anti virals and the machine we took from BTSU and got taken back by them last season.
The JTF was formed to include the army. Most division agents have a military background. Some JTF are civilians too. I play a paramedic that became an agent in my head while I play.
Something I am really looking forward to seeing is how the rest of the world survived after the initial outbreak. Is black tusk a problem elsewhere, does elsewhere have as much of an armed gang problem as the US, could any overseas military presence be causing problems? I’m a Brit with keen interest in the military and knowing life on this wet island it could either go from government has uneasy control to absolute anarchy. Great video!
Very much unknown; However, you can bet that the world powers of places like the UK, China, France, Germany, and several others would be in their own little areas of chaos.
Since we dont have any info, we may as well assume the rest of the world is "fine", i mean, its only said that it was on the black friday, somehow this got to the rest of the USA, its just curious how we dont see the help from the other nations on the US soil, maybe they couldnt get to it becauase of development or something
I think I've seen this covered somewhere, the dollar flue broke out on black friday, transmitting first through dollar bills and then through airborne infection from carrier to healthy and before they had locked down the country people had already flown to their own countries infecting large parts or European and Asian countries with the flue, while they probably don't have the issue of black tusk or the sheer level of riots considering the firearms restrictions that would make it easier to contain at the start they were still largely knocked out, leaving not a lot to send help to the US, plus the lack of global trade meaning less food in countries that need it, overall no one really game through unscathed.
I would hope that as an island Britain could have prepared better for it but honestly, going by how the public in the US and the UK reacted to Covid... yeh we'd be fkd.
When you do the Faye Lau manhunt, you find a series of recordings detailing what happened in other parts of the world. Europe wound up fine thanks to socialized medicine, Africa is pretty much fux0red, Asia is still locked down, and Western Canada fared better than Eastern Canada.
I recently watched World War Z and having been in the military myself, I found that movie to have a pretty good grasp on how the military would respond to a massive pandemic where the upper chain of command dies. As for the Division, I wondered what happen to all our over seas bases knowing that other countries seem to have faired better than the US. I mean, there are obviously Air Force since supply drops keep coming in. You'd also think that the UN or NATO forces would deploy to main land US to assist in reestablishing order since Europe apparently faired better. I do know that a PMC like Natalia's would likely never reach our coastline unless it was a world conspiracy against the US. especially with all the armed hostile factions that roam in the Division's version of the US. Anyway, great video. Always fun thinking about that universe.
I would say the same as everyone else. They were deployed, many died, the leaders died and they all ended up going their own way trying to stay alive and help those around them.
For those asking about our div 1 agent from what I've read and seen elsewhere is at somepoint after the first game when Dr. Kandall finds the makings of a cure for green poison (broad-spectrum antivirals) she heads to Ann Arbor which she mentions in a div 1 cutscene about soon having a cure and that they are better suited to create a cure in ann arbor hence why she ends up going and isnt seen in WONY and your division 1 agent traveled with her there as a means of her escort and protect and hence why he isnt around so it would be cool if in another DLC or main division game you could see your agent as a named character like Kelso and Faye or be able to reprise your role as him or maybe even have a game in the area of ann arbor Also one thing that would be cool to know is what happened to the speaclized military units such as Rangers and Delta because even though it got pretty much explained but theyre really skilled in all asspects of combat so it would be cool if when things broke down if they still stayed true to their oath but instead of nationwide they're protecting the communities of where they live and so you would have a future allied faction better and more skilled that the BTSU around but just in a no so prevlant area where main factions like that exist
Resurgence may cover that since it will take place after prologue chapter only a few days or weeks after Division 1. This may lead to them covering events we only heard from audio logs and notes before events of D2 and maybe expand on current lore we already know by seeing events we do not know about yet.
Special Ops units would probably be focused towards protecting principal leaders after the collapse of any command structure, and if not then they would probably turn to protecting isolated groups (especially the Green Berets, who would train and help equip the communities they are working with). Overall in a threat like that presented in the Division games you wouldn't want to risk losing high value soldiers unless absolutely necessary, but when it comes to the BTSU and any other possible elite enemy factions maybe then. One of my wishes for Heartland or even Division 3 is that we do get some semblance of that, survivors of units or even the different branches banding together to oppose said elite enemy factions and trying to restore some part of America, if not trying to unite communities against the threats of the times.
Your content is great. It has really fleshed out the story of The Division and The Division 2. As a vet, this game has is one of my Top Five fav games of all time and your content is so impactful to me. Thanks again. #StandingWatch #ArmyStrong
Great video. It made me consider the Navy in the world of the Div. I served on the west coast and was deployed during the earthquake in the early 90's. We were not aware until we started an at-sea replenishment - word spread FAST and the crew became very upset that we hadn't been told and had no info. This was pre-Internet access, no cell phone, etc. We were close enough to quickly return to port and care for families but we stayed on mission. It was tense. I can't imagine how similar would play out in a pandemic or the Division's story line. And we were just on a month long outing, so very short: a real deployment would be 6-9 months and far from home port. Physically, there would a number of isolated and deployed ships and submarines around the world during the Green Poison story - wonder if there were any Division agents in the military?!?
Once more, a great video filled with information, context, and perspective of just how quickly things can fall apart when poor / corrupt leaders are tolerated. Thank you for taking the time and your talent.
I just have to say thank you for your videos! I joined the community 2019 and i was on it in the first 10 minutes. Your videos of the complete story and more information are awesome! I'm waiting for a documentary 😂
What's your thoughts on the military apparel in the game? My army vet friend said closes thing to looking military-correct dress wise was True Sons Gunners.
@@CL-os5cz well the JTF one which I think was like a gray marpat was the most accurate. imo I thought it looked mostly like what the national guard use. I haven’t seen anything else though that caught my eye.
As always, EXCELLENT content." Maybe you can do a vid on the fall of the Government/s, I always liked the T.V. show "Designated Survivor" and was sad to see it canceled but I always wonder how a scenario like that played out in the world of The Division, I know info has been given throughout the games and DLC but it would be nice to see a current updated timeline with all the other added media since it's making it's way into the games now.
Alot of people are not viewing echo logs and audio files kek! That's why a lot doesn't seem to know the timeline and the plot itself. Anyways great content as usual mate!
Good question! I think the US military as a whole is in disarray to even crumbled to various factions not just almost impossible to pull troops out of conflict zones around 2014-2015AD Earth but having the leadership screwed up as well as Black Tusk invasion of America just too much for the whole armed forces to handle... 😅
I honestly am curious how Resurgence may expand on this since we learned in that game that the JTF was ordered to bring in Military Grade gear into New York during the early days of the Outbreak. This would have required US Military involvement to transport these gears but the fact these gears got so easily into the hands of civilians causing harm puts more into question.
I wanna know where the Navy went. In Division 1 theyre locking down manhatten. You can hear fighter jets patrolling ambiently. Carriers, destroyers, patrol boats. But in 2 not a trace. No beached warships from the hurricane, nothing. The JTF still exisits in 2 at least in the vicinity of DC and the convoy near kenly college but I wonder if they'll ever come back to replace the Civilian militias. Also makes me wonder what happened to the midtown JTF in manhatten.
In Division 1, there was the occasional naval blockade you can see off into the sea of Manhattan. Wonder if they have anything like that in 2 where there was a military presence on the side that watched the chaos from afar.
I noticed that near Roosevelt Island, there are abandoned outcast boats near the shore. I guess they hijacked some boats and took revenge once they got to land while the others took the bridge idk.
I was thinking about those airdrops in game, where the hell are they coming from? They don't contact the whitehouse for all I know because no one mentions them. They just drop in and leave without saying a word
New uploads from ngn are always nice! I too also wondered what happend as well, but i figured they either died out, they are scattered through the usa, lots turned against the poeple (i.e true sons), etc. But ig im about to find out lmao
I’m gonna be completely honest with you, it would have been great to work with the military in both division games, I say give some of the ranked a light to shine on them and see the character development throughout the division series and how they grow with the situation and help with the division and JTF, but they had absolutely no presence and that made it a lil bit kind of off, but it makes sense cause in a SHTF situation I don’t think would do anything, they would either stay with the government well some of them and most of them will go home and join the closest and biggest thing as a battalion besides they’re own army, so many possibilities and ways this could have played in the division
If the game developers are paying attention, there is so much they can do with this series for years to come. So many what ifs and possibilities to explore. I'm damn near hooked after discovering this stuff barely a month ago. I was playing the mobile game and was wondering this myself. I assumed the jtf were a mix of service members across the board who were combat troops, with either the NG or AF as command for the group. Even after the near real world scenario we just had, I'm pretty sure the military would never be prepared for this type of thing. Don't really have the numbers or training to deal with it. Especially if this were a completely national meltdown as portrayed in game. Cities with bases would probably be 50/50 and NG armories are usually severely exposed and/or defenseless. Regular troops would be fodder, bullet magnets, sentries and bullet sponges for SF and SHD just like in the game. I hate to say it, but there would also be a lot of civvies and militias who would target service members specifically as a threat to their wellbeing rather than see the military as trying to restore order and protect the innocent and infrastructure. Or see it as a chance to put down anyone seen as helping the government
Great video as always 😎👍🏻 One pain I do have, is that we got great military uniforms, including a scrimmed up sniper suit...to run around Manhatten in during the winter (fine, I enjoyed it). _But_ in Washington D.C during the summer, which has turned into a mixture of swamp, marshes and overgrown vegetation everywhere, verging on being woodland.... no sniper suit 😂. Instead, we just get these illiminous costumes or sniper hoods that are just grey blank canvases... I have to mix up bits and pieces to make myself mostly camoflauged. Yeah, you can be seen by player ID mostly and the bright lights on your equipment flashing away (always thought that was dumb lol), but for me, it's really immersion breaking. However I have managed to conceal myself a few times from packs of gankers whilst running solo and it worked for me in the first Division game also.
Even given that there was an outbreak in the world of the Division, I think the military forces could simply have declared a lockdown and holed up in their bases. Or pulled together to protect key facilities (power stations, nuclear launchers) and concentrate the remaining leadership of the country. This is usually what happens in fictional stories. To be fair, the game doesn't really explore these points, given that much of the story revolves around agents and opposing factions. But I was always upset that the JTF, in the ranks of which there should be both command and combat units of law enforcement agencies and the army, are always exposed as whipping boys.
Retired Paratrooper here. You can bet your sweet ass I would have told my boys to grab what ammo they could and find their way back to families or safety... or try to start a community and protect civilians. If it had gotten THAT bad... yeah... I would have cut my platoon lose and told the PL to eat dirt, respectfully.
Imagine being in a sub during the beginning of the outbreak and coming up months later with ur naval base/home abandoned. Think about it, you go in December and come up in the summer like June for example. I would be freaking out! Not by the outbreak but where did everyone go.
in the Langley reports didn't they mention that Europe survived and the us military established strongholds outside of the major cities, if u think about it who flies the ospreys that deliver shd supplies
I’m not sure if this is common knowledge but I still wanted to share and thought this the best place: in Grand Washington Hotel after you break down the door at the end of the mission to the left on the wall is a poster explaining a conference about the use of PMCs in warfare with Blisk, Charles Douglas, and Ellis with Ellis being credited as an ex member of the armed forces council. Just intrigued by people’s thoughts?
Here's a question that no one ever asks: the U.S. has an enormous amount of veterans, how many communities, you think are being defended and/or lead by veterans? That's a large amount of combat tested, well armed, trained folks who don't have to worry about the lead weight of command to get things done. It'd be interesting to see how many militias are keeping communities safe. I mean if groups like the rikers and outcasts are surviving I would think militia communities would be thriving.
i would be more interested what would've happened to the navy as many of america's fleets would've been overseas. did they stay at their respective deployments or were they recalled to support the ongoing crisis?
Chances are, even if they DID survive the outbreak, fuel and rations would have been running low big time, and the collapse of the chain of command would result in some officers taking matters into their own hands.
I laughed at loud at the badge for the Space Force. Warhammer 40k for the win! Although, sadly, the world of The Division is rather grim dark in that sense. Great summary though. Casualties on the sort of scale that happened in this universe would very much impact every aspect of society, including the military. And the military would also be very susceptible, as Tom Parrott was saying to me on Twitter, to the breakdown of the chain of command. In the military it's very formalized and those units that do seem to be semi functional are operating on a much smaller scale and area, The True Sons for example, and have a more autocratic chain of command. Yes The True Sons have ranks, but it was clear from previous manhunts that the higher the rank doesn't necessarily mean they're in charge. Major Castillo, for example, seemed to have less responsibility than Lieutenants. And, as you said, with so many soldiers being in close quarters it's no surprise that they may have even had a higher infection rate than the general population because all it takes is one person getting sick and many more do. Which would spark the desertions, people looking to find family, and people just trying to get away from disease. Those that didn't have family might join up with regional groups like The True Sons or, per Parrott's book, the Molossi, or hopefully the JTF. But they'd want that structure that the armed forces provides. That said. You also have to think that, with the massive impact on the military just like everywhere else in society, there are stockpiles of military hardware sitting around somewhere. Every state has multiple National Guard Armories, as well as larger military bases. Fuel might be a challenge, but there would certainly be the equipment for wannabe warlords to set up their own fiefdoms. We've seen DC and NYC. And even a bit of Texas in books. But places like Montana with the preppers and people with massive stockpiles of weapons could be definitely not great. Anyway. Hopefully all things we learn more about in the future.
True sons are definitely military, in fact they are likely US Marines, their uniforms are the dress blues coat with the sleeves cut off. Ridgeway is seen wearing the full version. Great video as always.
@@shdghost8872 Marines do join the national guard after their active duty to continue their service. I was just pointing out that part of the their uniforms are the dress blues coat. Same as Ridgeway. Which more than likely means they had them prior to the outbreak… or they just took them from a surplus store.
Is there anywhere that isn’t all anarchy? I’m not sure if there’s information but I would personally love a video going into normal cities or areas where the dollar flu didn’t get to ravish.
There are probably some areas where the Dollar Flu outbreak either didn't have a big effect or any effect at all across the world, but those places are usually very out of the way or at least largely forgotten by most of the world; As for their exact status, your guess is as good as mine.
Most likely Island nations like the UK or Possibly Japan and Taiwan, having time to react due to the NY Exclusion zone and being able to use the water as a natural wall
I think they could milk a division tv series for decades and never run out of material. I mean each season pick a different U.S. city and a different cell of agents different threats.
I've got a question. What would happen to all military hardware. Would the US military lock it all up or would the black tusk get their hands on it eventually. Because thing about it. There are tanks, jet fighters, heavy bombers, stealth planes,humvees all sorts of weapons. What would happen to all of the technology the military used.
I really wish the next division game would let you play as other factions aside from the division. Like I just got into the Division 1 recently, and man, during the first playthrough, I wish you could've joined those LMB guys. It's annoying working for the division hearing Faye Lau or that annoying security guy's voice over the radio. I don't know, just a clever thought I guess.
The military can't be deployed on us soil outside of the national guard, and that was as part of JTF. The military could easily be used to take control of more hostile locations and keep peace but they have manpower in the millions and actual War fighting equipment. That being said, the division is not strickly a combat force, they have many people from a tons of backgrounds and have a wide veriety of missions from critical aid and research to combat and infiltration. That makes them better suited to the current situation. Plus outside of defending the country from foreign threats durring a time of weakness, God only knows what's happening with the US armed forces.
For me, the problem with The Division 2 was, that is was very poor lore-wise. It was just a soap opera - operator X has gone rogue, go stop him. The first game, despite not being linear story-driven, still had good story, lore and characters. It was interesting to see the JTF fighting for control, to assist the medical personel in finding a cure, to investigate ground zero...
I have a question what happened to Dr. Jessica kandel after the first game events? I know my question has no connection to the topic of the video but I have always wondered.
The last we heard, she was on her way to Ann Arbor. Later on this area was then attacked by the Black Tusk. Unfortunately we haven't heard much about the outcome.
The Army alone is huge, and I doubt most of them turned their back on the JTF. You got Rangers, Green Berets, and Delta force. If any of these units are in the JTF, then we should have already won against the BTSU. Also, it’s very unlikely all of them joined the BTSU, or other hostile factions. You also have other branches special forces to consider. Seal Team 6 (DEVGRU), Marsoc (Marine raiders), USAF PJ’s, and TAC-P’s. Why aren’t we seeing any of these guys? The game should address that the Army isn’t the only branch that exists.
Those units being the top tier units aren't as large as most conventional units so they would be spread pretty thin across a country of 330 million armed potential hostiles. Remember lots of operators got their ticket punched by a goat farmer with a 50 year old AK. Imagine the casualty rate fighting former soliders with the same gear they have (mostly) Plus with unrest at home, high-ranking officials would have tasked them with protective details. So there could be a lot of tier 1 soldiers sitting on their ass in federal bunkers babysitting senators.
@@aaronfilipowich3877 so you calculated infants , babies , toddlers , kids , teens , old folks , sick folks , disabled folks , dead folks , mentally ill folks aso... 😂😂😂 You also calculate folks who would never pick up a gun and folks who would but could never kill someone . At the end you have maybe 10% left and that's a high # , the majority of the 10% won't be well trained if trained at all , facing highly trained operators . Btw your stand on operators getting killed by goat farmers with 50 yo AK's is pretty stupid , I was there it's nothing like that 🤡
NGN I would say not the hole military gone most of them pulled back to the navy because they are at sea or integrated into the JTF and we don’t know what happened to the rest of the country of the us like Las Vegas or Los Angeles or Boston or San Francisco we don’t know happened to those cities and the military government base of the Cheyenne Mountain complex which is for high command and the back up pentagon and government and you didn’t mention enough of the Navy they could be still around at sea with the remnants of JTF Air Force army and marines and some high command of military and some government so i wouldn’t say completely gone
Most of that is very much up in the air; That being said, general rule for most viral outbreaks: Major cities are a deathtrap, so places like Boston or San Francisco would be royally fucked.
what happened with the whole plotline involving the president defecting to black tusk with the nuclear codes only to later journal about how he wasn't going to give them to natalya or mcmanus?
With Ellis dead, they're going to need the next person in the Presidential line of Succession. Which would be the Secretary of Defense. The problem is that we don't know where he is.
I have a question about the current events within the season. Am i the only one who hear Hunters disappearing around me in the Open world ? Sometimes its Rogue agents that i don't even see but have spawn somewhere not far from me. I'm maybe crazy but we never know so
Makes me wonder where delta and other special forces are in the game world. Delta is considered doesn't exist the records on personnel are pretty much burnt when they enter service due to the operations they tend to partake in while we all know Delta is part of the Army and that you have to be in special forces for two years before you can apply for it there's still a lot that we don't know about that group. We know the seals would resort to their common tactics as they were always meant as commandos so working without high command would be normal for them as an example but what about force recon seals rangers delta etc. Sure us military is strong but the special forces tend to be top tier where division would get some but not all of it's agents.
ya know...speaking of the military...I wouldn't be surprised if sokolova and her band of merry men were based at Fort Detrick. not far from dc plus all the facilities needed to make complete use of the bio reactor
The US Space Force haven't come up with their own seal yet that you had to use a Warhammer 40K space marine? Usually, a seal, badge or crest is one of the first things they come up with when forming a new branch or service, or are they still in "joke" phase?
Well I'm glad that in Australia we don't have The Posse Comitatus Act, so our Prime Minister can always call for military support in domestic emergency (pandemic, terrorism etc) if necessary. Can already imagine our F-35s dropping bombs on the HQ of the likes of Rikers, Cleaners etc.
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but part of military induction is a series of injections designed to inoculate a soldier for a decent fighting chance of withstanding a wide variety of viral and weaponized biologicals. In comparison to the game world for the driving force of the player's story (and perhaps short-sided writing), the player(s) are supposed to fill the role of any remaining armed forces via guerilla warfare, whereas in a more realistic world scenario, about the only thing that would stop the US military from being an effective fighting force are logistics and inability to maintain a command structure. You can bet there would be pockets of units fighting to the last man to defend the country or whatever remains in that moment, alongside civilian counterparts. At any rate, the thing that always bothered me in the game world of The Division is that the JTF is/was always painted as a unit of essentially crosswalk guards and lunch ladies with the inability to do much of anything towards an effective fighting force. That, and the game world is made up of limitless anti-player faction numbers that despite (at last check) the NPC kill count, players have killed the world population equivalent more than two times over. In a truly evolving game board, eventually you'd think that roamers and such would dwindle down Some... 🤷♂
Imagine if we got a hardcore division game based around one of these last military units. Without any SHD tech It would be a tougher experience to manage your unit against a hostile faction or something like that.
Then it wouldn’t be a division game if you can’t even use any of the technology and equipment the division uses. You’d just be any other government agent.
i loved how you used a space marine for the space force instead of it's seal
Even better would have been the Traveler. :D
It woukd be interesting to see a navy pov when a ship was out at sea and no radio contact. The hellhole they must have returned to. The last ship deals with this very well and would be a good grounding point to base on.
It would definitely be chaos, especially when the sailors realize that no supply ships have been around in a while to restock on supplies for their ship.
That is a dlc I would pay for....
If you've ever read "On the Beach" by Neville Shute it covers the perspective of the last operational US nuclear sub following a nuclear war trying to survive as the wave of radiation slowly moves south from the Northern hemisphere. Obviously a different reality, but the trauma of everyone involved is significant as they try and make contact with anyone left in the US while maintaining a semblance of command structure.
Any naval task force at sea, from any country, would obviously be impacted. They'd not be infected and would know, at least initially, what was happening. But how long they could get information and direction would vary. We do know that the President remained in charge for a while, but how well communications held up for existing military forces we don't know. Any ships returning to the US would obviously be susceptible to infection. Even months after the initial outbreak. What would they do? Without resupply they couldn't stay at sea indefinitely. But imagine a ballistic missile submarine on patrol. Designed not to have contact for 2-3 months only to return to base and find out this had happened. Who knows what those folks would do. Something unexplored currently.
The Last Ship is really damn good show
That would be awesome!
If you think about it it's crazy how the division series essentially had the idea of like how the covid pandemic was at the start before everything relaxed.
Let's be honest Covid wasn't *that* bad if Covid was more deadly I think it would've been worse than Division.
Frighteningly enough, if covid had been like the Black Plague that destroyed Europe and Central Asia; we would have experienced seven out of ten death rates worldwide.
Those numbers could be recovered from, but it would take centuries to do so, and I shudder to think of the violence that would happen to reestablish power and civilization.
I do feel dejavu when covid rise end of 2019
@@stormer9952 We were lucky that covid wasn't a sincerely unique and deadly virus. It was very contagious but still only affected specific people in such a disastrous way. If there is ever an outbreak of a virus that is equally as deadly and doesn't discriminate - like a smallpox strain - a situation like outlined in The Division is totally believable. There's a reason the smartest people on the planet seem to agree that the biggest threat to human annihilation is a global viral pandemic. I think it would take a legitimate attack like the green poison narrative rather than just a natural outbreak, it would have to hit a lot of places at the same time, but it's a scary possibility.
@@stormer9952 Yea I think media sensationalism and misinformation very quickly caused panic during the initial stages. But the vaccines came out and the pandemic progressed, people realised it wasn't as deadly as it was thought to be. We missed a bullet here. If the virus was 10 times or 100 times deadlier than it was, then I think we could have quite possibly tasted societal and economic collapse.
The Division universe is so expansive and full of potential thats why its one of my favorites
I always assumed the JTF was the military. And was called JTF so it could include volunteers as the needs arise. All in this together kind of vibe
JTF means Joint Task Force so it was easy to assume
JTF are basically what remains of first responders units (Police, Firefighters, and EMS), CERA (in universe version of FEMA) mixed together with National Guard Troops. With some Volunteers as well.
yep same, i assume they were the remaining military
I thought about an allied faction for a division 3: A remnant of the National Guard bolstered by a militia in California. They’re beset by three larger enemy factions but because the NG have the better gear, they’ve managed to hold out, but are unable to expand to nearby areas. At least until the agents there are activated.
I’m honestly hoping for Chicago if we got another game, Ubisoft has a complete Chicago build from WD1, literally could be an asset flip if they really wanted to
@@crypticbaittrue a lot of cities could be good for the division universe hell we could potentially even see some from Canada in a rehashed tracking rouge agent story
I can assure you the NG is outgunned in California, especially with the cartel running around
@@usernamepassword236 Would be cool to have a mission in the campaign/story where you have to go to another country to rescue precious research or rescue a high value target. I think the world outside America has been pretty underrated in the Division universe
I imagine there’s going to be something similar in Heartland’s story, since I remember hearing that the developers wanted to show how the green poison hit smaller towns compared to large areas like NY and DC.
I think the problem was they took too long to bring order to the city, then again they didn't know what they were up against. Just goes to show you how much power the people have when they come together, the military and others would have a hard time. Div has one of the best storyline in gaming and i absolutely love it, great video mate
I always enjoy watching NGN's videos but the question that has always been killing me is mainly the transition to the 2nd Division. We ended up cutting the heads off of the Cleaners, Rikers, and LMB, then ended up clearing out their heavily defended areas in NY in the 1st Division and had multiple dlcs after it to keep it replayable. But the thing that I always wondered is what happened to our agent after the first Division. There was no explanation as to what happened to the character we play as with the transition. we basically fast forward to helping out another Division agent defend against rag tag enemies right before the comms went dark and the LMB invaded. Especially when Warlords of New York dropped and Keener destroyed the main area we spent all our time building and fortifying in the 1st Division there's so many questions surrounding that one building and what happened to agents and other people that survived the attack.
From what I've read and seen elsewhere is at somepoint after the first game when Dr. Kandall finds the makings of a cure for green poison (broad-spectrum antivirals) she heads to Ann Arbor which she mentions in a div 1 cutscene about soon having a cure and that they are better suited to create a cure in ann arbor hence why she ends up going and isnt seen in WONY and your division 1 agent traveled with her there as a means of her escort and protect and hence why he isnt around so it would be cool if in another DLC or main division game you could see your agent as a named character like kelso and faye or be able to reprise your role as him or maybe even have a game in the area of ann arbor
@@Nick-oh6ms Thanks that was always annoyed me because it was never straight forward I have multiple characters and had no idea that's where it was at. With that being said why is it the other division operative arrived in DC a few seasons ago without any sign of Dr.Kandall? I would assume she would be as important as the broad spectrum anti virals and the machine we took from BTSU and got taken back by them last season.
They gave up real fast real quick after seeing cleaners for the first time. Seeing people with flame throwers, they said ‘Nah fuck this I’m out’😂
Dude if I saw a garbage truck shooting fire, I'd run to.
The JTF was formed to include the army. Most division agents have a military background. Some JTF are civilians too. I play a paramedic that became an agent in my head while I play.
Something I am really looking forward to seeing is how the rest of the world survived after the initial outbreak. Is black tusk a problem elsewhere, does elsewhere have as much of an armed gang problem as the US, could any overseas military presence be causing problems? I’m a Brit with keen interest in the military and knowing life on this wet island it could either go from government has uneasy control to absolute anarchy. Great video!
Very much unknown; However, you can bet that the world powers of places like the UK, China, France, Germany, and several others would be in their own little areas of chaos.
Since we dont have any info, we may as well assume the rest of the world is "fine", i mean, its only said that it was on the black friday, somehow this got to the rest of the USA, its just curious how we dont see the help from the other nations on the US soil, maybe they couldnt get to it becauase of development or something
I think I've seen this covered somewhere, the dollar flue broke out on black friday, transmitting first through dollar bills and then through airborne infection from carrier to healthy and before they had locked down the country people had already flown to their own countries infecting large parts or European and Asian countries with the flue, while they probably don't have the issue of black tusk or the sheer level of riots considering the firearms restrictions that would make it easier to contain at the start they were still largely knocked out, leaving not a lot to send help to the US, plus the lack of global trade meaning less food in countries that need it, overall no one really game through unscathed.
I would hope that as an island Britain could have prepared better for it but honestly, going by how the public in the US and the UK reacted to Covid... yeh we'd be fkd.
When you do the Faye Lau manhunt, you find a series of recordings detailing what happened in other parts of the world. Europe wound up fine thanks to socialized medicine, Africa is pretty much fux0red, Asia is still locked down, and Western Canada fared better than Eastern Canada.
I recently watched World War Z and having been in the military myself, I found that movie to have a pretty good grasp on how the military would respond to a massive pandemic where the upper chain of command dies.
As for the Division, I wondered what happen to all our over seas bases knowing that other countries seem to have faired better than the US. I mean, there are obviously Air Force since supply drops keep coming in.
You'd also think that the UN or NATO forces would deploy to main land US to assist in reestablishing order since Europe apparently faired better. I do know that a PMC like Natalia's would likely never reach our coastline unless it was a world conspiracy against the US. especially with all the armed hostile factions that roam in the Division's version of the US.
Anyway, great video. Always fun thinking about that universe.
I would say the same as everyone else. They were deployed, many died, the leaders died and they all ended up going their own way trying to stay alive and help those around them.
For those asking about our div 1 agent from what I've read and seen elsewhere is at somepoint after the first game when Dr. Kandall finds the makings of a cure for green poison (broad-spectrum antivirals) she heads to Ann Arbor which she mentions in a div 1 cutscene about soon having a cure and that they are better suited to create a cure in ann arbor hence why she ends up going and isnt seen in WONY and your division 1 agent traveled with her there as a means of her escort and protect and hence why he isnt around so it would be cool if in another DLC or main division game you could see your agent as a named character like Kelso and Faye or be able to reprise your role as him or maybe even have a game in the area of ann arbor
Also one thing that would be cool to know is what happened to the speaclized military units such as Rangers and Delta because even though it got pretty much explained but theyre really skilled in all asspects of combat so it would be cool if when things broke down if they still stayed true to their oath but instead of nationwide they're protecting the communities of where they live and so you would have a future allied faction better and more skilled that the BTSU around but just in a no so prevlant area where main factions like that exist
Resurgence may cover that since it will take place after prologue chapter only a few days or weeks after Division 1. This may lead to them covering events we only heard from audio logs and notes before events of D2 and maybe expand on current lore we already know by seeing events we do not know about yet.
Honestly has there ever been a confirmed lore reason that says that our agent in Div 2 isn't the same Agent from Div 1?
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Didn't Ann harbor get raided by the BTSU?
Special Ops units would probably be focused towards protecting principal leaders after the collapse of any command structure, and if not then they would probably turn to protecting isolated groups (especially the Green Berets, who would train and help equip the communities they are working with). Overall in a threat like that presented in the Division games you wouldn't want to risk losing high value soldiers unless absolutely necessary, but when it comes to the BTSU and any other possible elite enemy factions maybe then. One of my wishes for Heartland or even Division 3 is that we do get some semblance of that, survivors of units or even the different branches banding together to oppose said elite enemy factions and trying to restore some part of America, if not trying to unite communities against the threats of the times.
Your content is great. It has really fleshed out the story of The Division and The Division 2. As a vet, this game has is one of my Top Five fav games of all time and your content is so impactful to me. Thanks again. #StandingWatch #ArmyStrong
I like the idea of small town vets and police making their own little JTFs.
Great video. It made me consider the Navy in the world of the Div. I served on the west coast and was deployed during the earthquake in the early 90's. We were not aware until we started an at-sea replenishment - word spread FAST and the crew became very upset that we hadn't been told and had no info. This was pre-Internet access, no cell phone, etc. We were close enough to quickly return to port and care for families but we stayed on mission. It was tense. I can't imagine how similar would play out in a pandemic or the Division's story line. And we were just on a month long outing, so very short: a real deployment would be 6-9 months and far from home port. Physically, there would a number of isolated and deployed ships and submarines around the world during the Green Poison story - wonder if there were any Division agents in the military?!?
Once more, a great video filled with information, context, and perspective of just how quickly things can fall apart when poor / corrupt leaders are tolerated. Thank you for taking the time and your talent.
I just have to say thank you for your videos! I joined the community 2019 and i was on it in the first 10 minutes.
Your videos of the complete story and more information are awesome! I'm waiting for a documentary 😂
Being a marine vet this hypothetical was really interesting. Hopefully they delve further into this with future content.
What's your thoughts on the military apparel in the game? My army vet friend said closes thing to looking military-correct dress wise was True Sons Gunners.
@@CL-os5cz well the JTF one which I think was like a gray marpat was the most accurate. imo I thought it looked mostly like what the national guard use. I haven’t seen anything else though that caught my eye.
@@MattW6314 There were Marpat Uniforms back in the First game.
@@shdghost8872 I don’t remember much from Div 1. 😂 The atmosphere in that game is still amazing. I wish Apparell would carry over that would be cool.
As always, EXCELLENT content."
Maybe you can do a vid on the fall of the Government/s, I always liked the T.V. show "Designated Survivor" and was sad to see it canceled but I always wonder how a scenario like that played out in the world of The Division, I know info has been given throughout the games and DLC but it would be nice to see a current updated timeline with all the other added media since it's making it's way into the games now.
Alot of people are not viewing echo logs and audio files kek! That's why a lot doesn't seem to know the timeline and the plot itself.
Anyways great content as usual mate!
Good question! I think the US military as a whole is in disarray to even crumbled to various factions not just almost impossible to pull troops out of conflict zones around 2014-2015AD Earth but having the leadership screwed up as well as Black Tusk invasion of America just too much for the whole armed forces to handle... 😅
I honestly am curious how Resurgence may expand on this since we learned in that game that the JTF was ordered to bring in Military Grade gear into New York during the early days of the Outbreak. This would have required US Military involvement to transport these gears but the fact these gears got so easily into the hands of civilians causing harm puts more into question.
Heyooo. Just got off work to enjoy this banger on the way home.
I wanna know where the Navy went. In Division 1 theyre locking down manhatten. You can hear fighter jets patrolling ambiently. Carriers, destroyers, patrol boats. But in 2 not a trace. No beached warships from the hurricane, nothing.
The JTF still exisits in 2 at least in the vicinity of DC and the convoy near kenly college but I wonder if they'll ever come back to replace the Civilian militias.
Also makes me wonder what happened to the midtown JTF in manhatten.
Good news is per the books they’re doing pretty well for themselves.
In Division 1, there was the occasional naval blockade you can see off into the sea of Manhattan.
Wonder if they have anything like that in 2 where there was a military presence on the side that watched the chaos from afar.
I noticed that near Roosevelt Island, there are abandoned outcast boats near the shore. I guess they hijacked some boats and took revenge once they got to land while the others took the bridge idk.
Thank you. Well done. Now a subscriber.
I was thinking about those airdrops in game, where the hell are they coming from? They don't contact the whitehouse for all I know because no one mentions them. They just drop in and leave without saying a word
Subbed to your channel because your content is awesome! I feel your love for this game and the community. Much respect 👍
New uploads from ngn are always nice! I too also wondered what happend as well, but i figured they either died out, they are scattered through the usa, lots turned against the poeple (i.e true sons), etc. But ig im about to find out lmao
I’m gonna be completely honest with you, it would have been great to work with the military in both division games, I say give some of the ranked a light to shine on them and see the character development throughout the division series and how they grow with the situation and help with the division and JTF, but they had absolutely no presence and that made it a lil bit kind of off, but it makes sense cause in a SHTF situation I don’t think would do anything, they would either stay with the government well some of them and most of them will go home and join the closest and biggest thing as a battalion besides they’re own army, so many possibilities and ways this could have played in the division
If the game developers are paying attention, there is so much they can do with this series for years to come. So many what ifs and possibilities to explore. I'm damn near hooked after discovering this stuff barely a month ago. I was playing the mobile game and was wondering this myself. I assumed the jtf were a mix of service members across the board who were combat troops, with either the NG or AF as command for the group. Even after the near real world scenario we just had, I'm pretty sure the military would never be prepared for this type of thing. Don't really have the numbers or training to deal with it. Especially if this were a completely national meltdown as portrayed in game. Cities with bases would probably be 50/50 and NG armories are usually severely exposed and/or defenseless. Regular troops would be fodder, bullet magnets, sentries and bullet sponges for SF and SHD just like in the game. I hate to say it, but there would also be a lot of civvies and militias who would target service members specifically as a threat to their wellbeing rather than see the military as trying to restore order and protect the innocent and infrastructure. Or see it as a chance to put down anyone seen as helping the government
Great video as always 😎👍🏻
One pain I do have, is that we got great military uniforms, including a scrimmed up sniper suit...to run around Manhatten in during the winter (fine, I enjoyed it).
_But_ in Washington D.C during the summer, which has turned into a mixture of swamp, marshes and overgrown vegetation everywhere, verging on being woodland.... no sniper suit 😂.
Instead, we just get these illiminous costumes or sniper hoods that are just grey blank canvases... I have to mix up bits and pieces to make myself mostly camoflauged. Yeah, you can be seen by player ID mostly and the bright lights on your equipment flashing away (always thought that was dumb lol), but for me, it's really immersion breaking.
However I have managed to conceal myself a few times from packs of gankers whilst running solo and it worked for me in the first Division game also.
Well put together like always.
Was really good!
Thanks
I think my theory is before black tusk show up they eleminated any navy ships or made them theres and so it had sea support
Why the US Space Force is a Blue WH40K Space Marine at 1:10😂
Wait... they're not just real life Space Marines??
@@NGN not yet 😏
Ahem, that's an Astartes from the Ultramarine's chapter.
@@discipleaj LOL!
@@pyeitme508 😄
Would love this same breakdown on the smaller factions. Cleaners, Rikers etc
He made those they are very interesting
Keep em comin.
Agent o7
Even given that there was an outbreak in the world of the Division, I think the military forces could simply have declared a lockdown and holed up in their bases. Or pulled together to protect key facilities (power stations, nuclear launchers) and concentrate the remaining leadership of the country. This is usually what happens in fictional stories.
To be fair, the game doesn't really explore these points, given that much of the story revolves around agents and opposing factions.
But I was always upset that the JTF, in the ranks of which there should be both command and combat units of law enforcement agencies and the army, are always exposed as whipping boys.
Awesome video
This was very helpful, thank you.
Retired Paratrooper here.
You can bet your sweet ass I would have told my boys to grab what ammo they could and find their way back to families or safety... or try to start a community and protect civilians. If it had gotten THAT bad... yeah... I would have cut my platoon lose and told the PL to eat dirt, respectfully.
Thanks for making this video.
I can't with the Ultramarine at Space Force 😂
Imagine being in a sub during the beginning of the outbreak and coming up months later with ur naval base/home abandoned. Think about it, you go in December and come up in the summer like June for example. I would be freaking out! Not by the outbreak but where did everyone go.
in the Langley reports didn't they mention that Europe survived and the us military established strongholds outside of the major cities, if u think about it who flies the ospreys that deliver shd supplies
I’m not sure if this is common knowledge but I still wanted to share and thought this the best place: in Grand Washington Hotel after you break down the door at the end of the mission to the left on the wall is a poster explaining a conference about the use of PMCs in warfare with Blisk, Charles Douglas, and Ellis with Ellis being credited as an ex member of the armed forces council. Just intrigued by people’s thoughts?
Probably some are with the LMB or Black tusk
Here's a question that no one ever asks: the U.S. has an enormous amount of veterans, how many communities, you think are being defended and/or lead by veterans? That's a large amount of combat tested, well armed, trained folks who don't have to worry about the lead weight of command to get things done. It'd be interesting to see how many militias are keeping communities safe. I mean if groups like the rikers and outcasts are surviving I would think militia communities would be thriving.
i would be more interested what would've happened to the navy as many of america's fleets would've been overseas. did they stay at their respective deployments or were they recalled to support the ongoing crisis?
Chances are, even if they DID survive the outbreak, fuel and rations would have been running low big time, and the collapse of the chain of command would result in some officers taking matters into their own hands.
In the first division there's a naval blockade
I laughed at loud at the badge for the Space Force. Warhammer 40k for the win! Although, sadly, the world of The Division is rather grim dark in that sense.
Great summary though. Casualties on the sort of scale that happened in this universe would very much impact every aspect of society, including the military. And the military would also be very susceptible, as Tom Parrott was saying to me on Twitter, to the breakdown of the chain of command. In the military it's very formalized and those units that do seem to be semi functional are operating on a much smaller scale and area, The True Sons for example, and have a more autocratic chain of command. Yes The True Sons have ranks, but it was clear from previous manhunts that the higher the rank doesn't necessarily mean they're in charge. Major Castillo, for example, seemed to have less responsibility than Lieutenants.
And, as you said, with so many soldiers being in close quarters it's no surprise that they may have even had a higher infection rate than the general population because all it takes is one person getting sick and many more do. Which would spark the desertions, people looking to find family, and people just trying to get away from disease. Those that didn't have family might join up with regional groups like The True Sons or, per Parrott's book, the Molossi, or hopefully the JTF. But they'd want that structure that the armed forces provides.
That said. You also have to think that, with the massive impact on the military just like everywhere else in society, there are stockpiles of military hardware sitting around somewhere. Every state has multiple National Guard Armories, as well as larger military bases. Fuel might be a challenge, but there would certainly be the equipment for wannabe warlords to set up their own fiefdoms. We've seen DC and NYC. And even a bit of Texas in books. But places like Montana with the preppers and people with massive stockpiles of weapons could be definitely not great.
Anyway. Hopefully all things we learn more about in the future.
True sons are definitely military, in fact they are likely US Marines, their uniforms are the dress blues coat with the sleeves cut off. Ridgeway is seen wearing the full version. Great video as always.
Except most of the True Sons were ex Army National Guard Troops, as stated in their Bios.
@@shdghost8872 Marines do join the national guard after their active duty to continue their service. I was just pointing out that part of the their uniforms are the dress blues coat. Same as Ridgeway. Which more than likely means they had them prior to the outbreak… or they just took them from a surplus store.
Is there anywhere that isn’t all anarchy? I’m not sure if there’s information but I would personally love a video going into normal cities or areas where the dollar flu didn’t get to ravish.
There are probably some areas where the Dollar Flu outbreak either didn't have a big effect or any effect at all across the world, but those places are usually very out of the way or at least largely forgotten by most of the world; As for their exact status, your guess is as good as mine.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 I think the only people who are unaffected is that one guy who lives off the grid in his hunting cabin way off in the woods.
Most likely Island nations like the UK or Possibly Japan and Taiwan, having time to react due to the NY Exclusion zone and being able to use the water as a natural wall
Very very good, well done man thank you.
I just wish that this would be a Tv series instead of a movie because I have a feeling they will gloss over things.
I think they could milk a division tv series for decades and never run out of material. I mean each season pick a different U.S. city and a different cell of agents different threats.
There is suppose to be a movie with Jake Gyllenhal as the main character i dont know if Ubisoft is still working on it
Hey NGN what happened to deployed military troops across the world when the green poison broke out? Like the navy for example.
probably left wherever they were deployed tbf.
@ray495903314 Maybe some of the closer troops like in Europe or the Pacific but that still leaves troops in the ME and Africa for example.
Lessss gooo baby!!!
is there any lore on that loot guy that we sometimes run into? he doesn't seem to be with any factions.
LOL no, I think he's just a classic RPG loot goblin.
I thought he was part of the underground faction (the chain gang)
The lore is those dudes are part of the agents that eventually became BRIDGES that you find in Death Stranding.
Space Force [incerts an Astartes] this is accurate
I was thinking the same thing about the military when I was playing this game
I've got a question. What would happen to all military hardware. Would the US military lock it all up or would the black tusk get their hands on it eventually. Because thing about it. There are tanks, jet fighters, heavy bombers, stealth planes,humvees all sorts of weapons. What would happen to all of the technology the military used.
You need to do some book narrations.
I really wish the next division game would let you play as other factions aside from the division. Like I just got into the Division 1 recently, and man, during the first playthrough, I wish you could've joined those LMB guys. It's annoying working for the division hearing Faye Lau or that annoying security guy's voice over the radio. I don't know, just a clever thought I guess.
I refuse to believe that the entire military has gone kaput.
They are likely sitting back and protecting the elites and government property 😂😂
I always find intriguing with what happened in other countries, hope we'll know more in the future.
Black tusk can't be all north American forces.
When doing Faye Lau manhunt you can grab pc files tells you what’s going on in world
I think the US Military would fracture into different groups.. like True Sons, JTF, LMB, Black Tusk, etc...
I was pondering this during the last manhunt. Where the Hell is the Natl Guard?
Some joined the True sons, a handful stayed with us at WH, and the majority of them left DC for bases in Virginia and Maryland.
The military can't be deployed on us soil outside of the national guard, and that was as part of JTF. The military could easily be used to take control of more hostile locations and keep peace but they have manpower in the millions and actual War fighting equipment.
That being said, the division is not strickly a combat force, they have many people from a tons of backgrounds and have a wide veriety of missions from critical aid and research to combat and infiltration. That makes them better suited to the current situation. Plus outside of defending the country from foreign threats durring a time of weakness, God only knows what's happening with the US armed forces.
all we need is tom cruise.
For me, the problem with The Division 2 was, that is was very poor lore-wise. It was just a soap opera - operator X has gone rogue, go stop him. The first game, despite not being linear story-driven, still had good story, lore and characters. It was interesting to see the JTF fighting for control, to assist the medical personel in finding a cure, to investigate ground zero...
This is how the Last Man Battalion came to be.
Except the LMBs were a Private Military Company.
I'd still love for some of the ghosts to appear
The Emperor protects.
What if we could have an Adeptus Astartes Division agent 😂😂
Rebuilding a society is not done by armed Division Agents.
It needs more than that.
I also think this would have spread world wide. It would be impossible to keep the green poisen contained in the us only.
What about deployed navy ships? If they're out at sea or submerged then they wouldn't have been infected.
I have a question what happened to Dr. Jessica kandel after the first game events? I know my question has no connection to the topic of the video but I have always wondered.
The last we heard, she was on her way to Ann Arbor.
Later on this area was then attacked by the Black Tusk.
Unfortunately we haven't heard much about the outcome.
The Army alone is huge, and I doubt most of them turned their back on the JTF. You got Rangers, Green Berets, and Delta force. If any of these units are in the JTF, then we should have already won against the BTSU. Also, it’s very unlikely all of them joined the BTSU, or other hostile factions. You also have other branches special forces to consider. Seal Team 6 (DEVGRU), Marsoc (Marine raiders), USAF PJ’s, and TAC-P’s. Why aren’t we seeing any of these guys? The game should address that the Army isn’t the only branch that exists.
Those units being the top tier units aren't as large as most conventional units so they would be spread pretty thin across a country of 330 million armed potential hostiles. Remember lots of operators got their ticket punched by a goat farmer with a 50 year old AK. Imagine the casualty rate fighting former soliders with the same gear they have (mostly) Plus with unrest at home, high-ranking officials would have tasked them with protective details. So there could be a lot of tier 1 soldiers sitting on their ass in federal bunkers babysitting senators.
@@aaronfilipowich3877 don't you think your #'s are a little bit off when it comes to potential hostiles 🤣🤣🤣
@noway2728 I just went general population number...hence potential...I also didn't factor in the number after green poison deaths.
@@aaronfilipowich3877 so you calculated infants , babies , toddlers , kids , teens , old folks , sick folks , disabled folks , dead folks , mentally ill folks aso... 😂😂😂 You also calculate folks who would never pick up a gun and folks who would but could never kill someone . At the end you have maybe 10% left and that's a high # , the majority of the 10% won't be well trained if trained at all , facing highly trained operators . Btw your stand on operators getting killed by goat farmers with 50 yo AK's is pretty stupid , I was there it's nothing like that 🤡
NGN I would say not the hole military gone most of them pulled back to the navy because they are at sea or integrated into the JTF and we don’t know what happened to the rest of the country of the us like Las Vegas or Los Angeles or Boston or San Francisco we don’t know happened to those cities and the military government base of the Cheyenne Mountain complex which is for high command and the back up pentagon and government and you didn’t mention enough of the Navy they could be still around at sea with the remnants of JTF Air Force army and marines and some high command of military and some government so i wouldn’t say completely gone
Most of that is very much up in the air; That being said, general rule for most viral outbreaks: Major cities are a deathtrap, so places like Boston or San Francisco would be royally fucked.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 that may be true at some places but at least they have pulled back to the navy at sea and the Cheyenne Mountain complex
There is no actual way the space force is actually recognized as real
what happened with the whole plotline involving the president defecting to black tusk with the nuclear codes only to later journal about how he wasn't going to give them to natalya or mcmanus?
With Ellis dead, they're going to need the next person in the Presidential line of Succession. Which would be the Secretary of Defense. The problem is that we don't know where he is.
@@shdghost8872 isn't mcmanus the secretary of defense?
@@vshockgamingandmore7735 No he is the Secretary of Homeland Security. In the Presidential line of Succession, he is at the bottom of the Totem Pole.
Hey NGN, can you share the Ace's and Eights build that you use sometimes in your videos?
Here you go: ruclips.net/video/-8NmCLsCDRg/видео.html
@@NGN Thanks!
I have a question about the current events within the season. Am i the only one who hear Hunters disappearing around me in the Open world ? Sometimes its Rogue agents that i don't even see but have spawn somewhere not far from me. I'm maybe crazy but we never know so
I was roaming in New York with a couple buddies and always hear "rogue agent inbound" but can never find him.
Makes me wonder where delta and other special forces are in the game world. Delta is considered doesn't exist the records on personnel are pretty much burnt when they enter service due to the operations they tend to partake in while we all know Delta is part of the Army and that you have to be in special forces for two years before you can apply for it there's still a lot that we don't know about that group. We know the seals would resort to their common tactics as they were always meant as commandos so working without high command would be normal for them as an example but what about force recon seals rangers delta etc. Sure us military is strong but the special forces tend to be top tier where division would get some but not all of it's agents.
They might have joined Black Tusk or became Hunters.
At least we know 1 retired Green Beret is leading the First Light Militia in Midtown Manhattan in Resurgence.
Likely in black tusk and the hunters
I love this game man.
ya know...speaking of the military...I wouldn't be surprised if sokolova and her band of merry men were based at Fort Detrick. not far from dc plus all the facilities needed to make complete use of the bio reactor
Wasn't Fort Derrick wiped off the map by Black Tusk in the Division comics?
The US Space Force haven't come up with their own seal yet that you had to use a Warhammer 40K space marine? Usually, a seal, badge or crest is one of the first things they come up with when forming a new branch or service, or are they still in "joke" phase?
Well I'm glad that in Australia we don't have The Posse Comitatus Act, so our Prime Minister can always call for military support in domestic emergency (pandemic, terrorism etc) if necessary. Can already imagine our F-35s dropping bombs on the HQ of the likes of Rikers, Cleaners etc.
I know exactly where they are. Avoiding my already high body count, lol!
Was wondering about the CIA, NSA, DHS and other similar agencies
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but part of military induction is a series of injections designed to inoculate a soldier for a decent fighting chance of withstanding a wide variety of viral and weaponized biologicals. In comparison to the game world for the driving force of the player's story (and perhaps short-sided writing), the player(s) are supposed to fill the role of any remaining armed forces via guerilla warfare, whereas in a more realistic world scenario, about the only thing that would stop the US military from being an effective fighting force are logistics and inability to maintain a command structure. You can bet there would be pockets of units fighting to the last man to defend the country or whatever remains in that moment, alongside civilian counterparts.
At any rate, the thing that always bothered me in the game world of The Division is that the JTF is/was always painted as a unit of essentially crosswalk guards and lunch ladies with the inability to do much of anything towards an effective fighting force. That, and the game world is made up of limitless anti-player faction numbers that despite (at last check) the NPC kill count, players have killed the world population equivalent more than two times over. In a truly evolving game board, eventually you'd think that roamers and such would dwindle down Some... 🤷♂
Keep it up
If there's one thing true about The Division it's simply this. We're the desperate measures.
Imagine if we got a hardcore division game based around one of these last military units. Without any SHD tech It would be a tougher experience to manage your unit against a hostile faction or something like that.
Then it wouldn’t be a division game if you can’t even use any of the technology and equipment the division uses. You’d just be any other government agent.
i think twhat happen to the US Military first responders Ems police went hiding or the Some Joined the Paramilitary Group Like The True Sons Or LMB
Bro you should do watch dogs that a great story to do
So what happened to the remaining units of the last man battalion (lmb)?
They joined the Black Tusk