The Surf Coaster is GENIUS! | Coaster Theory
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Bolliger and Mabillard is the most game-changing coaster designer out there. Yes, companies like Intamin or RMC have created new innovative rides, but I don't think anything can make as big of an impact as the Invert, Standup, and Floorless have. In today's world of Hyper Hybrids and Multi Launch Shuttle Gigas, it is great to look back at a time when people would line up for hours to see the new best ride from B&M. The Invert was one of the company's biggest achievements, which led towards competitors taking inspiration and creating their own ‘suspended’ coasters. But we can't forget about the coasters that put B&M on the map… the standup and floorless. These rides were so advanced and brought something so original, parks were buying them left and right. Thanks to these coasters, B&M started work on today's show stealers, the Dive, Wing, Flying, Next-Gen Inverts, Hypers, and B&M large scale hypers we call Gigas. B&M doesn't go without its competition, a big competitor is Intamin. Intamin also pushed forth a new style of rides that would change the industry forever. They made a maverick, their first Blitz. An Intamin Blitz is a coaster that uses the LSM launch system to launch the train at least twice during its duration. This model blew up and is found in countries all around the world. Just like B&M's projects, companies would start to use this system for themselves to make their own launch coasters. B&M however, only dipped her toe in the launch coaster market by building ONE LSM coaster. While companies like Intamin, Premiere Rides, Vekoma, Rocky Mountain Construction, and Zerrier built these launch coasters, B&M continued to expand upon the models they already built, only parks were starting to want something else. Parks found more benefits to build launch coasters that could target every audience over the Dives, Sit Downs, and Standups. In return, B&M fixed up some of their models to make them more appealing to parks. They made their Dive coasters smaller for cheaper costs and to pack in more and bigger elements. Their inverts got a new restraint and featured new elements. They continued to make Wing and Flyers at the same rate because they were popular with some parks. Their hypers started selling much less than before, so they would build them taller. And of course, they would discontinue the Standup, and parks didn't want to buy Sitdowns. Even today B&M isn't selling as many rides as they used to, one of their most popular models, the Hyper only sold three in the last ten years. This isn't bad, because B&M is still making more than enough money to profit, but they aren't innovating as they used too, or so we thought. Behind the scenes at B&M, they started work on the Surf coaster, a new version of the multi-launch. In today's episode of Coaster Theory I tell you how the Surf Coaster could put B&M back one top.
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I've been waiting for this for like 2 months!
Over the last 20 years B&M has taken existing concepts and making them so much better. Hypers, flyers, wing...and this will probably be no different
Idk if these will top blitz coasters, those have been pretty much perfect since Taron and the new lap bar trains
@@bobbyswanson3498 true but it worth trying out. Some hypers are better as B&M than Intamin and vice versa
I see otsr's on the concept art. Mack, intamin, etc uses all lapbars.
What's also great the parks know that B&M is reliable and a crowd pleaser which isn't as risky as an Intamin
Intamins now reliable imo
Intamin is making more reliable coasters now
Ehh it kind of gets boring after a while with the same inversions seen on so many coasters...
The US could use less B&M and more Intamin. Especially on the west coast
Leave I305 alone
Imagine a B&M woodie
Nooo. With the Phyclone trains too 😫
A B&M 4D
They made trains for one woody. They were terrible .
They could put B&M Track in the middle of the wood track
n o
If B&M masters the sit down launch coaster do you think we could see a B&M inverted launch coaster?
This channel is GENIUS
this channel was honestly just so good. You added a whole new dimension to the coaster youtube community. You're such an inspiration and I think a lot of us miss your videos. I hope you're doing well. If you read this, plz consider coming back, we miss ya here.
(The day after the Surf Coster is announced)
Theme Park Media: The Secret Surf Coaster B&M *DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT*
All i'm hoping is that this doesnt kill the Intamin Blitz. I realize thats a worst case scenario but still
I don't think it will
It won't.
I think the fact that B&M is trying a launch coaster is amazing. The public love these things, the parks love them, we love love them, it's great. B&M may not give the most intense ride experiences but they are very very reliable. This is a big next step and I know B&M will go really really far.
They've already tried one, 5 years ago.
I feel like B&M has the personality of a geneous super villian, waiting in the back ground only to attack when its least convienient for their competition
Surf 🏄♀️ 🏄♂️ 🌊
You’re the first person to actually acknowledge that B&M Gigas are just tall Hypers. Thank you.
Great video! Price I think will be a big factor when it comes to how successful this model is.
If the Surf Coaster is way more expensive than the other launch coasters, I think it might flop or will take a long time to get going.
Given the current situation I think it will be years until parks will want to get any of the B&M coaster models just because of how much they cost compared to other coaster models by other manufacturers. I hope the Surf Coaster doesn’t have that problem.
I completely agree. That's why Six Flags does not work with B&M anymore. Because the cost is way out of their budget. If this surf coaster becomes more affordable I'd love to see six flags pick back up with them.
@@Robchacha Six Flags doesn't buy roller coasters from Intamin anymore, either.
In my opinion, my ideal coaster lineup when I make parks in RCT3. A hyper and/or giga coaster, an inverted coaster, an inversion-heavy coaster, 2 or 3 woodies (an out-and-back, a twister, and a giant woody that mixes out-and-back and twister), 1 or 2 launched coasters, an intermediate coaster, and a junior coaster.
Could you imagine a launched invert though.
Just imagine a b&m “blits” with the same type of force of the old inverts🥵
Wet dream
There needs to be more B&M winged coasters. I rode my first winged coaster, Thunderbird, last week. It was an incredibly unique and awesome ride! Can't believe more parks don't have these.
We all forget about the The Incredible Hulk Coaster at Island of adventurer in Orlando, that’s a b&m launch coaster, and universal Beijing is getting a replica of it but is call transformer opening in 2021. There are 3 b&m launch coaster in the world, 2 of them a drive-tire” launch and 1 with LSM
If this thing is anything like thunderbird or a blitz, you will see me in a tent by the entrance to ride.
Don’t think anyone has mentioned this yet, but maybe the B&M “surf” coaster going to Seaworld (the new multi launch) is called “surf” due to the back to back “wave” turns it features in the concept art drawn for the other potential Surf Coaster going overseas
It could be a trademark element they put on all their multi-launch coasters, similar the drop on a dive coaster or the in-line twist on a wing coaster
Who thinks that seaworld would be better off if they just got an intamin blitz?
@Eli Cipriano
They have also worked with intamin in the past
the only park that REALLY needs a launch coaster is Alton Towers instead of Rita
@@azi_yt
I totally agree. A clone of maverick would be a good fit.
@@QoasterMaster not maverick. Alton only want to build attractions they can market as a worlds first.
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Awesome video! B&M makes such cool coasters
I think B&Ms take on a multi-launch will be a nice alternative option for parks that can afford B&Ms. They may not be as crazy or technologically advanced as the Intamin Blitz, but I think they'll still provide a very exciting, more rapid-fire type of ride that will be much more reliable.
idk if this was that much of a theory but, its theme park media content, and all tpm content is awesome so ill take it, keep it up zach!
Imagine a blitz invert some day!
Like you pointed out, B&M hasn’t been afraid to innovate in the past. I’m glad they’re once again showing why they’re such a powerhouse in the industry. Excited to see how this may push other companies to innovate further!
Video starts at 3:09 lmfao but I really enjoyed the intro I don’t recommend skipping it
I wonder if they will use two across seating for this model, similar to the ones they made for Steel Dragon 2000
@Jonny B the two across trains made for steel dragon seat 4 per car.
Not only will it put B&M back on the map, it gives a great opportunity for people to go to SeaWorld to ride a pretty much brand new type of coaster. With Mako and Kraken already there, SeaWorld could have a real great trio of coasters to rule FL.
We need new inverts and colorless coasters... there’s still so much they could do but everyone wants a hyper haha
This would be my first standup coaster can't wait. B@m invert montu is the GOAT always will be for me. Been to bg inn Virginia. Apollo chariot amazing and fortnately got to ride the big bad wolf suspended
Awesome video! You really step up your game every time you release content, and you videos are just so well put together. I'm happy every time I see you uploaded a new video
B&M is my favourite manufacturer and the fact that this vid has all 3 from my home park CW makes this my favourite video I've seen in the past month.
The launch coaster market is far too crowded for B&M imo. It's like if B&M came out with a wooden coaster type or a sitdown family coaster type. Intamin have been building multi-launches for years, Premier have made a killing with their compact clones, and Mack caters to the thrilling, but not quite intamin level launch coasters. B&M Doesn't have a place here, the same price, quality, and similar layouts to what mack provides, not going to be as intense as Intamin's attractions. The reason, the Wing, Dive, and Flyers did so well is the fact they were opening up an entire new market unseen before. We saw this with the B&M Family Invert, but just on a lesser scale, only 2 were built, just because how crowded the market is with Vekoma's monopoly on it. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I fear this model won't sell half as well as any other. But in the end, every model B&M Have ever produced is of the highest quality there is, and I trust they know what they're doing.
It's a little hard to judge a coaster before seeing it but I bet this surf coaster will be very exciting to see
B&M surf coasters are likely gonna be closer to Mack launch coasters than Intamin blitz coasters as Intamin really focuses on something entirely different than what B&M has shown to do.
I totally agree btw B&M is my favourite manufacturer
I love your list of fundamental coasters.
Do why Yukon striker was delayed. The park officials have said that it was planned for 2016 but rumours are that cedar point stole Canadas wonderlands dive and made valraven as a attempt to fix the lowering attendance numbers at cedar point. And to make the expansion and upgrades of the cp hotels worth it.
I think they need to focus on smaller and clone able attractions. I think it would be possible to make a 100 foot tall dive coaster that would fit in a small plot of land, for example. Their concept for smaller sized inverts is a great idea.
"one of their most popular models, the hyper, only sold 3 in the last 10 years." This statement isn't true. From 2010-2020, 9 were sold.
Thanks for the correction!
Well to be fair, only 3 of them are operating "hypers" in the technical sense. 3 were gigas, 1 was under 200ft, 1 is still under construction, and diamondback opened over 10 years ago.
@@CONGTHEGUERILLA it's about the model Wich is called hyper coaster no t about their height
CJ The one “Under Construction” is actually fully constructed, it’s just that the park didn’t seem to have payed B&M properly so that the coaster has been SBNO since 2018
there is lots of chains and parks that will just buy whatever B&M makes, so this is great as most of those parks will buy yet another coaster from B&M
It's similar to a stand-up Coaster
Because you will have to stand up when your surfing but the seats will spin when you surf you will have to spin with your surf board. So it's like a launch spinning stand-up fusion coaster
This is a smart move by B and M because stand up coasters are fun just uncomfortable for most. These new trains are going to revolutionize the stand up and probably design replacement trains for existing coasters too
Great vid. Keep them coming! I hope BGW announces some plans for there next attraction.
What’s cool about this (that you didn’t know 2 years ago 😜) is that they’re also rebooting the stand-up model.
Cedar point is still building whatever is trending. They build Gatekeeper 2 years after the first B&M wing coaster debuted and they built Valravn when dive coasters were surging again. Steel Vengeance came again, when RMC coasters were trendy(ing). Parks are still going to B&M, they are just parks not in the US. Also, I can't really say that as the parks in the US could be going to them and are being waitlisted. if you look at life span of the company, it appears B&M averages more than Intamin. B&M has been around for 32 years and have 120 coasters under their belt which comes to aprox 4 coasters a year. Intamin has been around for 53 years and have 164 coasters under their belt which comes to aprox 3 coasters a year. Imagine if B&M wasn't as conservative and pricey as they were how many more we would have.
Hopefully their Blitz style will be great but frankly I'm more excited about the S&S Axis coaster possibilities!! It's insane and the most innovative thing possibly ever!
I personally know mark rose who has been the designer of every ride at Busch gardens tampa he worked there for thirty years and retired just after they finished the design for Tigres he is a great guy very nice and funny and friendly I see him almost every week because he is my scoutmaster and he enjoyed his job and I have not seen him for a while but ik that he was always happy to see us and Im pretty sure that he came to my family to say hi to us one time at Busch gardens he was walking around or we asked to see him I don't remember what happened exactly but I do know that he loved to see the people happy
I don't think it's that parks aren't buying B&M's like they used to... I think it's just that B&M is an expensive coaster manufacturer and they are also known for only taking on so many projects per season. Great video and I'm excited to see what this Surf coasters gonna look like too!!
I been on like 32 b and ms and this is a great idea
I have to say this video production is impressive
so glad I found your channel.. def. just binge watched your videos :)
Thank you!
Hello there Zack:
Maybe we coudl see other launched variants of their existing coasters like say a launched inverted or a launched floorless. I mean I seen some pretty insane launched inverted examples done in No Limits 2 and a launch could really Innovate othe inverted coaster model and bring back something that Volcano had that made it so unique and so popular. Dunno what you think, but i could see B&M trying that in the future if the Surf Coaster is a hit. If oyu look at the the trains they made for Steel Dragon 2000, that would be a precursor to what the Surf Coaster trains would end up being like. the 2-person 2-row trains we would see on that model.
In my opinion SeaWorld orlando is basically B&M's europa park cause most of the major rides there are by B&M, and they are starting to introduce coasters there starting with the surf coaster
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“Multi launch shuttle giga’s” hmm something seems wrong with that statement but I can’t wrap my head around it
I think in the near future, Cedar Point should put Wicked Twister at a different park and out a Surf coaster in its place. That’s my opinion
Omg I hope they build a a surf coaster to replace vortex at KI. We all know how much Cedar Fair loves B&M. This would be a perfect opportunity.
We need a b&m inverted launch coaster and a floorless laugh coaster filled with inversions
I think the surf coaster will grab the attention of Six Flags, which will cause their parks to install them.
I kinda think a surf rollercoaster might be a gamechanger.
I think that of B&M was going to make a launch coaster, it would be most similar to Copperhead Strike. Non forceful launches for the Gp, mostly focused on inversions, and a comfortable ride experience.
Thunderbirds launch is pretty snappy so I would expect the acceleration to be similar
Great vid!
This is a good video good job
Great way to wake up from a nap thanks Zach.
I think that B&M got their inspiration watching and admireing arrow coasters back in the day. And as arrow slowly took a left turn, B&M and Intamin jumped in. Now RCM was observing in the early 2000 those 2 and jump to move forward. B&M has to get these new one right, otherwise is going to take the same fate as arrow.
Dead king, New king. Its the way things behave. To inovate you need money, and to make money you need to sell a reliable product. So we will have to wait if these is the resurrection or decline of the 2 swiss ingeniers
Theme Park Media: exposes the surf coaster and has a good theory
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Love this!! Can’t wait to see what the surf coaster is capable of!
Maybe next big thing could be Giga wing coaster, or Giga launch coaster
I dont think B&M should touch launches. B&M rule the industry and I think some other manufacturers need their turn in the spotlight. I paticuarly think that Mack Rides are revolutionising this industry right now, only a few years ago realeasing an inverting, launching, spinning coaster.
Or the only Hypers with inversions
Mack Rides also have good launch coasters with impeccably smooth layouts and I think they deserve to be in the spotlight rather than be shunted aside again
It's kind of interesting how you mentioned unique coasters being after the collection of "normal" rides, because most parks in the UK and Europe don't have that selection of normal things and go straight to unique stuff (look at Alton Towers which got a flying coaster and a dive machine long before it got a woodie)
That's because Merlin/Tussauds business model for Alton Towers is always about worlds first or record breaking.
Stand ups suck, floorless suck because any ride that puts your head up that far away from the track, any small variation in your track will make your head regret it.
B&M hasn’t innovated much, but CandyMonium makes you feel great about the future of comfort for coasters. Super smooth and comfortable
"The first 200, 300, and 400 foot tall coasters,"
I mean, Superman at Magic Mountain was technically the first 400 footer, but Top Thrill Dragster was the first complete circuit 400 footer
The "structure" of Superman may have been 400+ft tall, but the "cars"/"trains" go nowhere near the top of the structure. Superman is a bit of a fraud.
I'm actually a Log Flume / Boat Flume fan .... and I'd like to see that Coaster "launch" added to a Flume Ride (part of the Ride is a Coaster, part of the Ride is a Flume) .... and a nice loooong drop at the end with a big splash!
I swear its going to be a b&m type half pipe and people are going to be underwhelmed
Lift hills eat real estate and many parks are running out of land. LIMs solve that lift hill eating real estate problem. The launch element is also a *stunt* which riders are looking to experience.
imo the next big boom for any coaster company will be the take on a 4D coaster, there's only 3 (free spins dont count) and RMC showed us that you need to be really good or really inovative to dominate the market at any point, i'm really hoping mack would be the one giving it a try since i feel like the time traveler rotation design could be easly adaptive to a 4D but i don't know im not a engineer let's hope someone comes out wiht a some new stuff soon, coasters are geting stale lately
I really hope Seaworld go ahead with this, but I’m more worried about their financial situation more than any other park currently.
I am a big B&M fan. There rides may not be the most innovative or unique right now, but they have a flawless track record, they create reliable, high capacity coasters that are ALWAYS General public favorites. While enthusiasts like them, they tend to go more for extreme or unique coasters. This is not to say all B&M are bland. They have elite and much above average coasters. Sea World Orlando has 3 B&M coasters for a reason. They go with quality products that are reliable and will please all crowds. But I'm glad to see B&M go into more launch coasters. They May be one of the last to that party, but once they get one or two of those out there, other manufacturers will realize what a quality product they produced. Finally, how could you not love the roar B&M coasters make when they're going around the tracks.
In the document it said something about water parks. What if it will be a launch coaster with a water splash and some cool elements.
This would make sense for what would replace wicked twister
It took BnM a while to do this imagine having launch inverts or hypers with inversion years ago wow that would be amazing 🙌🙌
This video brings up so many brilliant points!
I like forceful launch coasters not just any launch coasters. Sadly I’ve only been on one forceful launch which is the hulk.
Honestly, I just hope that this is a cheaper coaster to build so that maybe Six Flags can start working with B&M again.
Bruh ur such a genius
Love the vids!
I dunno about most folks, but I still get excited about new Beemers. I'm a proud Intamin fan-boy, but I know I'm going to get a good ride.
great video. you should make a video on the next coaster to come to Knoebels, it's my home park and I think it would be cool to see what you think will come next.
I love the idea, but hopefully it isn't gonna be too similar to a vekoma launch coaster. Great video tho!
It'd be very interesting if B&M started to make their own launched coasters... my home park is Gardaland, in Italy, and the two best rides of the park are Raptor (the first B&M wing coaster) and Oblivion The Black Hole (a dive)... if B&M is planning to build their new multi-launched, maybe Gardaland is included in the list of the buyers...
B&M made a launch Coaster at Islands of adventure
Unfortunately COVID has put the first surf coaster at SeaWorld Orlando in jeopardy. I hope things recover to the point that we can see this model reach its potential.
Great video man. I liked commented and subscribed
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
Would be cool it the ride actual went through a long man made wave to make a long tunnel from a wave.
Surf Surf baby Surf
🏄🏄🏄🏄🏄🏄🏄
B&m's launch coaster could be a game-changer for inversions vest hopefully a new model.
Airtime and ejector with Clamshell now we're talking.