Loving the series so far! I never thought of how the timing of Volcano’s demise might actually be helpful for BGW and Pantheon’s opening until you mentioned it. I could see a good amount of past KD Season Passholders and frequent visitors choosing to go to BGW more frequently instead due to both those events happening. Also I want Pantheon
Very interesting theory! I should not that if this ride is delayed, it will be the definition of "Rome Wasn't Built in a Day". Great video and keep up the great work!
I want Pantheon The original 355ft height permit was recently renewed by Busch Gardens this month. I still believe they have an intention to take the height record from KD but not with Drachen Spire
Alright hear me out. Kings dominion gets rid of anaconda and the intamin mega goes over the pathway over the lake into a spaghetti bowl mid layout and then returns to the volcano plot.
Part 2!! So good. The only thing is that Busch Gardens wouldn’t build an intamin hyper because, like you said, it would be similar and able to rival both pantheon and Apollo’s chariot, meaning it is kinda redundant at Busch gardens. But I pray that cedar fair will start working with intamin again. I want pantheon!
Just subscribed a few days ago. Volcano was INCREDIBLE from what I remember, I only got to ride it once in the summer of 1999 after I graduated high school (New York City here so don't get down there that often). I wish I could have had a second ride over multiple trips, but it was always down. Keep up the great work, I love the art of a great coaster.
I REALLY want Pantheon! Awesome video, love the new series. It keeps building up to the next episode. I 100% agree with you. It makes no sense to build two shuttle coasters back to back. Especially after Tempesto! Been subbed for awhile! Sub for life!
If BGW or BGT could get an Intamin that combines Kondaa, Taron and Velocicoaster all in one I think that they would have a hell of a beast on their hands and nobody would be able to touch it. Throw in Giga height and maybe the length record and now all of a sudden you have something not many other companies would even want to touch price wise. Sometimes you just have to outspend the competition to silence the competition.
There is one piece of possible misinformation in here. The "Drachen Spire" is not dead. The 355 height waiver for that coaster was just renewed by James City County with the contract stating that construction must start by September 2022. So "Drachen Spire" is essentially delayed due to the COVID-19 Pandemic.
I will say this, the coaster that I think BGW should get next is a Giga coaster, but a traditional Intamin shuttle Giga, ala Red Force at Ferrari Land. 355’, 100-110 mph, 3,500’ in length. The tallest and fastest coaster in the South. Third tallest and fastest coaster in the US; the second tallest and fastest coaster in the eastern seaboard, the Tallest and fastest coaster in the south, and the state of VA. Beats I305 and Furry 325 and bites at the heels Kingda Ka. Also, make BGW the home of launch coasters. I rest my case.
Do you think Vekoma or Mack have a chance of entering the American market with their next gen hypers? I look at Abyssus and drool and everyone says DC Rivals HyperCoaster is an amazing ride.
I think a Mack Hyper would be a perfect fit at King's Dominion, as would a bermuda blitz, or 2nd gen Vekoma launched coaster (particularly in Anaconda's spot). I could also see a Gerstlauer working well - completely unique for the market. An S&S pneumatic launch would also be a great answer to Pantheon specifically - since it could offer some similar elements with a far more intense launch. And the park's history of the once "launched coaster capital" would definitely make that a great fit.
as long as Pantheon and the other SeaWrold coaster are "anticipated" Kings Dominion doesn't have to worry about a thing. Busch Gardens hasn't said a thing about Pantheon since mid January of their social media pages.
If Busch Gardens still has a contract with intamin, that old drachen fire spot would be perfect for the intamin 12 inversion coaster that was never built.
Pantheon is cool but it doesn't beat every attraction at KD. KD still has I-305 and not to mention all the crazy Twisted Timbers fans. Twisted Timbers happens to ab an amazing night ride experience. Not sure how, but something about the old orchard theme and being near the woods plays well at night times.
I feel both parks offer such a different type of experience, both will end up being okay. BGW is one of the top themed parks in the US and has a good to great coaster selection among other things. Kings Dominion has one of the top 1-2 punches in the country along with a good to great support cast. Pantheon will definitely draw crowds and interests just as any new coaster will do, but Cedar Fair isn't going to let King's Dominion set idle for too long.
I want pantheon Like in my backyard, it’s honestly the ride I’m most hyped about that’s opening this year Also I think one of the most interesting things about project Madrid were those sharp turns (possibly top hats or drops) that lead into a figure 8. A fan recreation made it look like it could’ve been like the figure 8 on Cheeta Hunt but 355ft tall, this could’ve even inspired the one on cheetah hunt
I REALLLLLLY WANT PANTHEON. The video was great. Also i dont rlly understand why kings dominion is adding a 4d free spin. I feel like that freespin is just a small addition before they go all out.
But, if the giga was never supposed to happen why did BGW file the blueprints and pursue the 355ft height waiver after Pantheon had already been announced? Rumor has it that the giga is being rethought since covid hit anyway so I guess we’ll never really know!
I don't see Cedar Fair starting any new projects with Intamin in the near future. It could happen if/when/where Intamin is able to offer something that the other suppliers simply cannot match but until Cedar Fair decides to build a wooden hyper (prefab) or a 300+ft launched coaster (again), I think they'll probably stick to their current supplier base. That said, there's still a perfect answer for King's Dominion: Mack Hyper. First of it's kind in the western hemisphere. Or, if they want to play to their own history a bit more, and keep building the relationship with S&S: pneumatic launch coaster. Due to their competition and situation with ride removals (it's pretty universally expected that Anaconda will also be getting the chopping block) I expect King's Dominion will get 2 major investments between now and 2026 or so - so why not both in the next 5 years? :D
Volcano's removal was unfortunate, it seems that the ride was just too costly to keep, my theory is that the original plan was to have a refurbished Volcano open in 2020 as that season's 'big addition' (which if they were able to improve the reliability of it would be big). I'm sure that the park didn't want to remove Volcano as they no doubt knew how much that ride meant, it was likely a difficult and painful decision for them. I still feel that Pantheon is massively overrated, it's a launch coaster in a park that doesn't need another one, its layout is sub-par with a gimmick that I'm sick of at this point (I want the swing-launch trend to die so badly), plus it's being made by the new Golden Horse (what I refer to Intamin by after the 4 copycat concepts they unveiled). The last Intamin that truly impressed me was Taron. Also Abyssus looks so much better than Pantheon, plus it doesn't rely on a cheap gimmick either to disguise a really short ride for what it really is. News flash, Intamin and Cedar Fair are never working with each other again, i305, Shoot the Rapids, Dragster, Maverick's removed heartline roll and the oversold capacity of Millennium Force, Dragster and Maverick (if ElToroRyan's videos on those rides are accurate) have damaged that relationship beyond repair. Dream on, it's never happening.
Thing is kinds dominion needs something inverted (or different from sit down) and something that has a decent theme, volcano was awesome cause of the actual volcano. Themeimg and the experience is what will win and so far patheon is lacking so kings dominion could top them if they play their cards right. I remember as a kid I was mad I couldn’t ride volcano cause it looked so fun, scary and just awesome to look at legit fire coming out the volcano as the rollercoaster pops out the top!!! their is so many kids shows that featured characters riding a fake rollercoaster coming out of volcanos like drake and josh and spongebob cause of how iconic volcano was. They need the next ride to be re-rideable, shocking, fun! and iconic!! Otherwise it’s just another coaster.
There’s a slight issue here most of va’s population lives in the north so atleast a 2 hour drive with the lowest for KD being a hour soooooooooooo yeah
How about this. The reason Pantheon isn't a giga is because shuttle gigas aren't as marketable as real gigas. So Pantheon is 180ft. And the 355ft coaster is coming in 2025 for bgw's 50th anniversary.
@@lukez6203 I mean...there is a clear difference between lets say I305 and Fury down in Carowinds. I305 seems to have more twists n turns where as Fury has a few more drops and more sweeping turns. I would prefer a B&M back there as opposed to that launched spire mess that's rumored. Throw the whole thing away!
I think BGW isn't as good tbh people look at all the new coasters but KD has such a variety and higher standard. Griffon is just another dive and Apollo's Chariot is technically not even a hyper. KD has i305 and twister timbers the 2 best in VA. BGW has an outdated hyper. I'm not favoring KD but people are too blinded by all the new coasters at BGW to notice that KD has better coasters
In all seriousness, Pantheon is a beautiful coaster and i can’t wait to ride Intamins Godly Creation! Anyone else?
I am so excited for this ride
My most anticipated US Coaster I haven’t already done!
Pantheon does look amazing, and I think it will be a killer coaster!
There are only two rides I want to get on this year: Pantheon and Abyssus 🤤
When is your next video? Its been a few months.....
Loving the series so far! I never thought of how the timing of Volcano’s demise might actually be helpful for BGW and Pantheon’s opening until you mentioned it.
I could see a good amount of past KD Season Passholders and frequent visitors choosing to go to BGW more frequently instead due to both those events happening.
Also I want Pantheon
Kings Dominion needs to find a worthy replacement for Volcano asap.
I really hope they turn up with something amazing and new from Gerstlauer
Mäck Xtreme Spinner.
@@clubstep8244 I hope they don't remove Avalanche it is the last Mack Rides bobsled left in existence.
rumor is it will be a B&M in the future
@@NickyD probably B&M a wing coaster I'm assuming, hoping it will be a launched wing coaster
Oh man zack the ccu is shaping to be a great series, i want pantheon
Very interesting theory! I should not that if this ride is delayed, it will be the definition of "Rome Wasn't Built in a Day". Great video and keep up the great work!
Pantheon>Velocicoaster
Change my mind
yes
i cant, because its true
Not sure although I'd give Velocicoaster a slight edge for theming.
ur right, pantheon is better
Pantheon looks better to me. Was flying through the testing vid I saw while veloci looks slow.
I want Pantheon
The original 355ft height permit was recently renewed by Busch Gardens this month. I still believe they have an intention to take the height record from KD but not with Drachen Spire
wrong
even pantheon was suppose to touch the water but the plans were changed intamin acknowledged this during the media day announcement.
Alright hear me out. Kings dominion gets rid of anaconda and the intamin mega goes over the pathway over the lake into a spaghetti bowl mid layout and then returns to the volcano plot.
Kings Dominion needs a 4d coaster like X2, that would give them the best set of 3 coasters at any park with that 4d coaster, twisted timbers and I305
they did get a 4d.. just a crappy one
Part 2!! So good. The only thing is that Busch Gardens wouldn’t build an intamin hyper because, like you said, it would be similar and able to rival both pantheon and Apollo’s chariot, meaning it is kinda redundant at Busch gardens. But I pray that cedar fair will start working with intamin again.
I want pantheon!
Just subscribed a few days ago. Volcano was INCREDIBLE from what I remember, I only got to ride it once in the summer of 1999 after I graduated high school (New York City here so don't get down there that often). I wish I could have had a second ride over multiple trips, but it was always down. Keep up the great work, I love the art of a great coaster.
IT'S BEEN 8 MONTHS DUDE!
WE THOOSIES ARE LOSING OUR MINDS!
EXACTLY!
I REALLY want Pantheon!
Awesome video, love the new series. It keeps building up to the next episode. I 100% agree with you. It makes no sense to build two shuttle coasters back to back. Especially after Tempesto! Been subbed for awhile! Sub for life!
It’s almost 2 years without an upload, come back plz
Pls Zach! I just want a video!
If BGW or BGT could get an Intamin that combines Kondaa, Taron and Velocicoaster all in one I think that they would have a hell of a beast on their hands and nobody would be able to touch it. Throw in Giga height and maybe the length record and now all of a sudden you have something not many other companies would even want to touch price wise. Sometimes you just have to outspend the competition to silence the competition.
If that happens hopefully it goes to BGW my home park
There is one piece of possible misinformation in here. The "Drachen Spire" is not dead. The 355 height waiver for that coaster was just renewed by James City County with the contract stating that construction must start by September 2022. So "Drachen Spire" is essentially delayed due to the COVID-19 Pandemic.
ive heard rumors they renewed to for a different ride... but i could be wrong
Ur vids give me chills they’re sooooo good
I want Pantheon
Your videos are honestly so underrated, keep up the good work!
where is he!! Come back!
channel used to be truly legendary
YO TPM, I saw someone wearing your merch today at the PARK AT OWA.
I will say this, the coaster that I think BGW should get next is a Giga coaster, but a traditional Intamin shuttle Giga, ala Red Force at Ferrari Land. 355’, 100-110 mph, 3,500’ in length. The tallest and fastest coaster in the South. Third tallest and fastest coaster in the US; the second tallest and fastest coaster in the eastern seaboard, the Tallest and fastest coaster in the south, and the state of VA. Beats I305 and Furry 325 and bites at the heels Kingda Ka. Also, make BGW the home of launch coasters. I rest my case.
Do you think Vekoma or Mack have a chance of entering the American market with their next gen hypers? I look at Abyssus and drool and everyone says DC Rivals HyperCoaster is an amazing ride.
I think a Mack Hyper would be a perfect fit at King's Dominion, as would a bermuda blitz, or 2nd gen Vekoma launched coaster (particularly in Anaconda's spot).
I could also see a Gerstlauer working well - completely unique for the market.
An S&S pneumatic launch would also be a great answer to Pantheon specifically - since it could offer some similar elements with a far more intense launch. And the park's history of the once "launched coaster capital" would definitely make that a great fit.
I WANT PANTHION!!!!!
It is literally my dream roller coaster
drachen spire is the weirdest looking ride EVER (also i do kinda want pantheon)
Kings Dominion would not add an Intamin Hyper because it would just look like a smaller I305 to the average person.
an I205?
Don't forget, They could always add a Mack Rides Hyper
@@TheCoasterFlood or an S&S Hyper
as long as Pantheon and the other SeaWrold coaster are "anticipated" Kings Dominion doesn't have to worry about a thing. Busch Gardens hasn't said a thing about Pantheon since mid January of their social media pages.
I want Pantheon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want Pantheon!!!
Another exceptional video
what if they send the giga shuttle to Tampa?
Your coaster theories are so good.
If Busch Gardens still has a contract with intamin, that old drachen fire spot would be perfect for the intamin 12 inversion coaster that was never built.
I WANT PANTHEON! LETS GOOOO ANOTHER BANGER VIDEO !
Pantheon is cool but it doesn't beat every attraction at KD. KD still has I-305 and not to mention all the crazy Twisted Timbers fans. Twisted Timbers happens to ab an amazing night ride experience. Not sure how, but something about the old orchard theme and being near the woods plays well at night times.
I feel both parks offer such a different type of experience, both will end up being okay. BGW is one of the top themed parks in the US and has a good to great coaster selection among other things. Kings Dominion has one of the top 1-2 punches in the country along with a good to great support cast. Pantheon will definitely draw crowds and interests just as any new coaster will do, but Cedar Fair isn't going to let King's Dominion set idle for too long.
YOU JUST BROKE MY BRAIN WITH THIS VIDEO
also i want pantheon
When are you next uploading?
Where did you go man?
You know what sea world needs no I’m not talking about a giga face it’s not happening right now a bnm wing coaster
I want Pantheon.
I want pantheon
Like in my backyard, it’s honestly the ride I’m most hyped about that’s opening this year
Also I think one of the most interesting things about project Madrid were those sharp turns (possibly top hats or drops) that lead into a figure 8. A fan recreation made it look like it could’ve been like the figure 8 on Cheeta Hunt but 355ft tall, this could’ve even inspired the one on cheetah hunt
I love these coaster theories! 😍
Wait, does the permit extended until 2022?
I want pantheon, congrats on another great video!
You should do a cedar fair lore connecting Steve and copperhead strike and some other rides
If I was Kings Dominion I would replace volcano with the vekoma firestorm model and do a Morgan hyper gtx refurbishment of Anaconda.
It’s been a year are you doing ok?
I REALLLLLLY WANT PANTHEON. The video was great. Also i dont rlly understand why kings dominion is adding a 4d free spin. I feel like that freespin is just a small addition before they go all out.
I want pantheon! (amazing video by the way)
But, if the giga was never supposed to happen why did BGW file the blueprints and pursue the 355ft height waiver after Pantheon had already been announced? Rumor has it that the giga is being rethought since covid hit anyway so I guess we’ll never really know!
I don't see Cedar Fair starting any new projects with Intamin in the near future. It could happen if/when/where Intamin is able to offer something that the other suppliers simply cannot match but until Cedar Fair decides to build a wooden hyper (prefab) or a 300+ft launched coaster (again), I think they'll probably stick to their current supplier base.
That said, there's still a perfect answer for King's Dominion: Mack Hyper. First of it's kind in the western hemisphere.
Or, if they want to play to their own history a bit more, and keep building the relationship with S&S: pneumatic launch coaster.
Due to their competition and situation with ride removals (it's pretty universally expected that Anaconda will also be getting the chopping block) I expect King's Dominion will get 2 major investments between now and 2026 or so - so why not both in the next 5 years? :D
I want Pantheon
(and to go back to BWG lol)
Pls come back :( I miss u
Volcano's removal was unfortunate, it seems that the ride was just too costly to keep, my theory is that the original plan was to have a refurbished Volcano open in 2020 as that season's 'big addition' (which if they were able to improve the reliability of it would be big). I'm sure that the park didn't want to remove Volcano as they no doubt knew how much that ride meant, it was likely a difficult and painful decision for them.
I still feel that Pantheon is massively overrated, it's a launch coaster in a park that doesn't need another one, its layout is sub-par with a gimmick that I'm sick of at this point (I want the swing-launch trend to die so badly), plus it's being made by the new Golden Horse (what I refer to Intamin by after the 4 copycat concepts they unveiled). The last Intamin that truly impressed me was Taron. Also Abyssus looks so much better than Pantheon, plus it doesn't rely on a cheap gimmick either to disguise a really short ride for what it really is.
News flash, Intamin and Cedar Fair are never working with each other again, i305, Shoot the Rapids, Dragster, Maverick's removed heartline roll and the oversold capacity of Millennium Force, Dragster and Maverick (if ElToroRyan's videos on those rides are accurate) have damaged that relationship beyond repair. Dream on, it's never happening.
Thing is kinds dominion needs something inverted (or different from sit down) and something that has a decent theme, volcano was awesome cause of the actual volcano. Themeimg and the experience is what will win and so far patheon is lacking so kings dominion could top them if they play their cards right. I remember as a kid I was mad I couldn’t ride volcano cause it looked so fun, scary and just awesome to look at legit fire coming out the volcano as the rollercoaster pops out the top!!! their is so many kids shows that featured characters riding a fake rollercoaster coming out of volcanos like drake and josh and spongebob cause of how iconic volcano was. They need the next ride to be re-rideable, shocking, fun! and iconic!! Otherwise it’s just another coaster.
I want pantheon. Love the vids keep it up
I want pantheon
Man if bgw also added an intamin hyper I might just move to Virginia
There’s a slight issue here most of va’s population lives in the north so atleast a 2 hour drive with the lowest for KD being a hour soooooooooooo yeah
How about this.
The reason Pantheon isn't a giga is because shuttle gigas aren't as marketable as real gigas. So Pantheon is 180ft. And the 355ft coaster is coming in 2025 for bgw's 50th anniversary.
hmm... i like that
Kd could add a hyper or a Mack extreme spinning coaster
tomorrow is my birthday so i would really like the nanocoaster of pantheon so i want pantheon
Intamin hyper might make kings dominion get out more and prob a Mack rides launch coaster could happen.
I want Pantheon!
Nano-coasters are so cute
I want Pantheon!
I want Pantheon!
Okay......so it's time to call up B&M and order a 355' Giga...they can figure out how to get that drop to get close to the river LOL
Ehh, to an enthusiast we can tell the difference between i305, but the gp can’t
@@lukez6203 I mean...there is a clear difference between lets say I305 and Fury down in Carowinds. I305 seems to have more twists n turns where as Fury has a few more drops and more sweeping turns. I would prefer a B&M back there as opposed to that launched spire mess that's rumored. Throw the whole thing away!
I want pantheon, I collect nanocoasters and love your channel
Love the videos. You are pretty much a genius.
First btw
I WANT THAT PANTHEON
Dude i want pantheon
It would look dope with the rest of my nanocoaster collection
Wanna discuss the gerstlauer pls maybe for a short extra video
I want pantheon 🥺😰 the best coaster for 2021...
But they extended the height waiver...
You forgot the fact that Cedar Fair won't work with Intamin.
Stuff is too good I want pantheon
That Drachen Spire concept looks dumb as hell. All the height and speed, but it would have been so boring.
I Want Pantheon.
I want pantheon! Super cool model.
I think BGW isn't as good tbh people look at all the new coasters but KD has such a variety and higher standard. Griffon is just another dive and Apollo's Chariot is technically not even a hyper. KD has i305 and twister timbers the 2 best in VA. BGW has an outdated hyper. I'm not favoring KD but people are too blinded by all the new coasters at BGW to notice that KD has better coasters
I saw you at kentucky kingdom today
King's Dominion is the laughingstock of investments.
Spot on! 👌
I WANT PANTHEON 😫
I want pantheon! (But dragonspire would've been cool too)
I WANT PANTHEON.
Ooo I want Patheon
dude, i want pantheon!
Um, is this channel dead?
I WANT PANTHEON!!
Yk I still want Pantheon
I want that pantheon!!!
I want Pantheon
I am me and I approve this message
Pantheon is the more interesting concept, I said what I said
I want Pantheon!
@@coasters4life388 ok
I want iron gwazi
I want pantheon!!
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I want pantheon!!!