No it was okuyasu before he shaved and josuke hid him from the series that he was friends with him way back josuke is at home being babysitter by a random dude
Or like with dbz it created an alternet timeline, where in he sonehow goes back in time, and saves himself, or saves his mother. From during, and a new timeline is created
Additionally, Araki said himself during Part 4's publication that there was basically no merit to Josuke's going back in time theory. Even more, Bites the Dust was already established during the final arc as an ability that sends you back in time by ONLY one hour. Josuke saving Josuke has no merit.
His jacket is open at the chest it's held by weird big heart shaped pins if he was wounded in battle those probably would of came off and left him looking like that
Part 4 was so chaotic it didn’t even have a clear plot or main villain until like halfway through. Idk why but that’s what makes it my favorite part. Something about it just kinda being a small town where random things happen. Idk lol
this is so relatable, like i never really liked a slice of life format and like this weird storyline but something, just something makes Josuke my fsvourite jojo and part 4 my favourite part
I honestly think it works better with the guy being a complete stranger. It adds to josuke's character knowing that he was inspired by a stranger's act of kindness.
nobody Special what if that stranger is josuk8. Somehow Araki has a battle and josuk8 is wounded and sent to the past (Kira is calm in 8 so maybe instead of killing people with bites the dust he makes alt universe save the other universes selves fate) someone has to remind Araki of this scene of jojo and tell him to use josuk8 to fix the plot-hole in part 4 (and plot twist).
Blizzard: "Really? Instead of taking shelter, you're walking right into me?" Josuke: "I can't save my past self without getting closer." Blizzard: "Ohoho, come as far in as you'd like then."
I think it’s cuter to leave “josuke’s savior” as a random kid that was in the right place at the right time.... it makes me feel that anyone can become a hero if you have a kind heart!! I think the simplicity in that backstory it’s what makes it better!
@@raygin6581 well call it a fanfiction if you must, but its the only logical rrason in lore. His plans were for it to be Josuke, but he never followed through in story
Ray Pin In an interview from before Part 4 wrapped up the interviewer asked Araki about the stranger and how he would tie into the end of the part and Araki said: “Oh, he’s not involved, that’s not relevant.” So it’s kind of the opposite of what you’re saying.
wasn't it josuke who said he got his hairstyle from the guy he was saved by and if it is disrespect to him whoever disses his hair or something? correct me if im wrong
@@williammanua8565 That only proves the OP's point, since he got his hairstyle from the guy who saved him, Koichi imagined him being the same as Josuke himself
Let me say something and you can say it wrong or right this might not be josuke but josuke has that uniform and hairstyle that means that the kid was like josuke not koichi’s imagination
I love how the entire fandom of this show is so hung up on this mysterious man that no one can just accept that a random man with a pompador helped a car stuck in snow in 1988 and then just left. Thats it.
because it’s just deductive reasoning bro guy with same hair style with blood on his face out in the middle of a freaking blizzard while part of his face being obscured too in a story that involves time travel to a degree. All of these factors are very indicative of a scrapped time travel plot but people would rather believe it was planned all along
@@brace4impact258 I think these people who think it was a scrapped time travel plot only ever watch Jojo because that character looks exactly like a generic delinquent you'd see in almost every high school slice-of-life anime. In the society of japan people would look at Josuke and think he is a kid looking to do bad things to others. All delinquents take similar hairstyles and looks and are usually bullies or in gangs. The fact that a delinquent (someone society japanese society looks down on) had a kind heart and helped Josuke and his mother while a respectable looking business man Kira, is a serial killer is the intention. That guy was never meant to be Josuke, the blood doesn't need explanation if you know enough about delinquents or or watched enough school anime. They get in fights all the time because they rebel against the norms in japan. Simple as that, no scrapped time travel or anything.
@@brace4impact258 1. "Same hair style" isn't a point in your favor because that's literally a famous Japanese hairstyle for delinquents. 2. Time travel was only developed as a literal last-minute crutch for Kira to save himself with. 3. It was a small flashback to explain a running gag, it being "planned all along" isn't far-fetched. 4. There's an interview that disproves this all anyways 5. ruclips.net/video/pvwszolblwU/видео.html
Yeah but that's time travel backwards. That shits a mindfuck. Skipping time like king crimson is relatively simple to write, araki just didnt explain it well
Lacko Mode I’m not entirely sure, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I think D4C is more spatial travel. From what I’ve heard, it just has the ability to replace Valentine with a version of himself from a different universe, which isn’t really time related.
Koichi was the one telling the story so for me, It was him visualizing the man as Josuke because he knows how much Josuke idolizes the man but that's just my interpretation
That could kinda make sense, but, usually in this type of scenes in anime/manga, were someone is telling something that happened, the flashback always is represented accurately as posible, so the viewer/reader can understand what actually happened And, even if that were the case, why Koichi imagined the person that saved josuke all damaged, with all the blood and wounds over his face? I think that's the biggest problem.
Juancho El Negro Maybe Josuke saw the wounds when he was little and he also described that to Koichi and that's why he's imagining it too... The strangest of this all is how good Josuke's memory is, as he was like 5 and had a heavy fever. But that's just normal Jojo logic.
Alternative universe Josuke exist though, and I'm not seeing a lot of similarities. I mean there can be a whole multiverse, but I don't think Araki made more than the original and the new one (I haven't read part 6-8 yet so yeah I'm not sure.)
MTF Unit Foxtrot-6 Commander it does actually. There’s the other guy in part 8 (I read it I just forgot his name.) that also has a pompadour. Plus he also is a part of josuke 8. It kind of does but that would be a fucking complicated plot.
I always just thought the snow guy looked exactly like Josuke because Koichi was told by Josuke that he looks exactly like him, so from Koichi's perspective, he just imagined the snow guy that way. Koichi even says himself that it's not accurate and he is just making his own assumptions. Honestly this still sounds like the most likely option.
Wow this has to be one of the most sounded araki forgots and it also happens to be one of the most stupid ones out there. (Araki literaly says in an interview this was just a good samaritan made to build josukes character motivations)
Yeah, it makes sense, I also was in the middle of a blizzard when suddenly a guy that looked the same as I but 16 years older appear out of nowhere even if he was bleeding from a fight that happend during the blizzard...
Fun fact, Araki said in an interview that this character was unrelated in anyway to Josuke when asked about how he cut a time travel plot where he saves his younger self.
@@c.danteosorio2688 Bruh. How is it implied that snow guy is Josuke from the Future? Like, at all. I doubt Araki would change Josuke’s age (the pins on snow guy’s jacket denote that he is a senior) and outfit so drastically throughout the part.
@@ronramen5827 I mean, it could have been that this arc could have potentially taken place a couple of years after Diamond is unbreakable following an older Josuke fighting a new stand users whose ability is to time travel.
I never had a problem with how similar the mysterious teenager looks to Josuke. I thought it was literally just an explanation for Josuke's hair, and that's that..
@@mooncandlelight3968 makes sense. Many stories do that where when it’s a character imagining an event, they replace things with things they know. The only difference here is that the guy is wearing a normal uniform, which makes sense as josuke’s is josuke’s.
@@mooncandlelight3968 that's the best excuse everyone is telling themselves in order to excuse Noriaki for having a plot hole. It's okay mate, it's just a plot hole, no excuses needed. Just leave it at that.
@@ekimolaos Like, if someone tells you they have something like someone, like i dont know, their clothes, you would think about the person who inspired them, being like them, don't you?
@@mooncandlelight3968 dude with all those "like" you typed back there, your sentence hardly makes any sense. Yeah that memory theory is nice and all. But that's not how manga flashbacks work. Or any flashbacks be it comic, animated or movie. They just show what happened. It's just one plot hole in a manga that doesn't take itself too seriously. Stop overthinking it. Artists change their minds/forget about stuff all the time. They're just human after all. It happens.
Theory, this is actually parallel world josefumi while in high school,(this isn't even a theory more of a small interesting idea) ps don't look up Josefumi if you aren't caught up on part 8.
My own theory is that the guy wasn’t josuke and why he was walking around in the snow, bleeding in the middle of the night, is that he was fighting yoshikage himself. This is why yoshikage says he hates fights because he probably got into a brutal fight with this guy and this guy ended up dying in the snow that night.
Yonatahn Domingos I mean I’m not sure though I swear he takes his hat off at one point like in the battle of Terrence D’arby the video game stand in stardust crusaders
Personally I prefer it being just some kind stranger because we can see the effect it had on jouske not just in appearance but also personality in how he's kind of a delinquent but also a great person
Y’all are overthinking it bro. It’s not Josuke or just any stranger..... It’s obviously the man, the myth, the legend, Jean Pierre Polnareff (Edit: it’s been half a year and people are still acting like I’m serious)
He did not that was a government conspiracy. There is no concrete evidence he was there it’s all a governmental lie just like the earth being round and that the moon is an actual thing. Wake up sheeple
when i was watching i legit thought josukes stand could rewind time and thats why he was able to heal people because he was rewinding time on their wound and fixing it so i thought at the end he would go back in time and push the car for his mum
honestly i feel like all the jojo stands (at least for 3-6, idk anything abt 7 and 8) could be read as a form of time travel, or at least manipulation? esoteric and overly technical to read it like that, especially 5 and 6, but technically possible. granted that's a lot of lore discussion that i wouldn't know enough to dispute and is probably ultimately meaningless bc its jojo but food for thought? not to jump on a 4 month old comment oops
I like to believe that it was just a student who happened to move away. Josuke being inspired so much by a random act of human kindness is far more touching and personal then some sort of time travel shenanigans.
I think that if they klled of Josuke with the time travel as he stops Kira in a fight through time could have been and incredibly sad and effective ending in the same level if not better than steel ball run
See, the problem with saying "It's obviously supposed to be Josuke or it wouldn't look exactly like him" is that this isn't a flashback. It's a story being told by Koichi. Since he only knows so many details, he probably just thinks of this mysterious stranger as looking exactly like Josuke, since he has no other frame of reference than "Josuke tries to look like him."
@@mushroom3807 simple: there isn’t! The second half of my name, ‘-suke’ can be pronounced as ‘jo’ so if that was the case, my name would be ‘JoJo’! Why is this the case, you ask? I have no idea!
iM sUrE NoT aLl oF yOu rEmeMbEr tHiS sCeNE I don't think these guys realize how much sleep I've lost over this Damn scene... And how much im currently still losing
i still believe that it was intended to be josuke originally, but as things are now, i imagine he only looks like josuke because of tomoko not getting a good look at him because of the snowstorm, so she wasn't able to tell josuke exactly how he looked besides the most outstanding thing about him, as in the mystery man's hairstyle. koichi is just parroting what josuke told him offscreen, and i imagine that koichi imagines the man to look exactly like josuke does now
I don't buy " koichi imagines the man to look exactly like josuke does now" In similiar scenes i've seen in that past that wouldn't really make any sense.
It's the only explanation I can think of for why this man looks like Josuke as a teenager. I believe Koichi was told that Josuke modeled himself after the mystery man because he idolized him for saving his life, and that can be interpreted in several different ways
My guess for the storyline for this was yoshigake being able to remember the terrible blizzard that hit morioh and used bites the dust to send him Josuke back at that time to die and not recover. However, even though Josuke was stuck in that timeline, he also remembers the day to be the exact same day he would have met the guy who would have saved his life. So, Josuke would try to go back to that area just to have a last glimpse at that guy with not having a care in the world since he is stuck in that time and just wants to see the guy one last time before he died. However, Josuke was at the right place and at the right time and would see his mom stop the car, but is shocked to not see the guy who he would use as a role model. So, he decided to get the van that his mom is driving to get moving in the heavy storm.
What if because if made in heavens ability caused joskue to go back in time and for him to help himself. Think about it the guy came out of nowhere and had the same uniform the joskue has.
The guy that help josuke was josefumi he had same age as kira but lost without any trace i think in future when pucci power being reversed we going to intruduce about josefumi identity and his stand it like josefumi help josuke for some reason have something to do about how stand user was meant to be meet
That is not the actual problem. It is the fact, that a Highschool student with fresh wounds was standing in the middle of an blizzard, miles way form the town, at the right time to say Josuke.
When I saw what Bites the Dust could do, I thought that punk in the snow could very well be Josuke. However, it was never addressed and Araki seems like the guy that would if it was. The inexplainable in art is in the eye of the beholder, and I like to see it as simply someone who had a kind heart and became a father figure to Josuke to the point of imitation.
@@guscanterbury9225 I would think, just maybe, that becausea stand is a manifestation from your mind,it would be dio's because a stand has nothing to do with your body
My question is.. how the hell does he remember, in detail, the hairstyle of a complete stranger he saw for a few brief moments when he was a todler, enough to recreate it every single day
Flashbulb memories can last a long time. It was literally a guy who saved his life, I’m sure you’d remember them for the rest of your life in near perfect detail. A high percentage of people who heard the news of 9/11 were able to recall what exactly they were doing when they discovered the news and they weren’t even in danger! Imagine how much more vivid the memory would be if you were the plane crash survivor. Fascinating stuff, sorry if I come off in a bitchy way.
I like the Idea that Josuke's hero was just a cool dude who happened to be in the right place, at the right time. Not time-travel shenanigans or some other bullshit, just a person who saw a family in need.
See, when Bites The Dust was introduced, I thought that Kira would use it as he was being killed, resulting in the ability going berserk, and sending everyone way further back in time than an hour, causing chaos. But then Josuke would realize that, since Crazy Diamond could fix things, he would "fix" the timeline, and on his way back to the present, he would save his younger self. Also, the fact that there was absolutely no trace of that hero who saved Josuke really lends itself to the idea that the hero actually was a time-traveling Josuke.
LaserFace23 I used to think that killer queen's ability would have been to send other individuals into the past (a la weeping angels) and this would "break" the time-line. Kira, in his final showdown, sent Josuke a decade onto the past, and Josuke would have to fix the time line by saving himself to defeat Kira.
I think originally Josuke was supposed to die, but Araki changed his mind and didn't want to kill him off. My idea is that through some enhanced version of Bites the Dust or whatever specific event, Josuke is sent back in time after being badly injured, and in his last dying moments he recognizes where he is and saves his past self so he can live and grow up to sacrifice himself to save his friends. I think the fact that the mysterious teen is all beat up like Josuke near the final fight, and also that he has this somber look on his face and is so adamant in helping push the car, would be evidence that this is Josuke knowing exactly what is going on and accepting his fate. Or something like that, just an idea.
Wow reading this actually made me kinda sad. Josuke isn't even my favorite JoJo but the thought of him dying at the end of DiU would have made the ending alot more sad.
That's about what I thought as well about the uniforms. Josuke's is very stylized around the collar/lapels, while his is more of what you'd expect for just about every other background character. Plus, dude's got on some kind of grayish sweater instead of Josuke's yellow sleeveless shirt.
Lol ok guys so Araki legit said he didn’t plan to do shit with the character since so many were asking. He just wanted Josuke to have an inspiration and wanted a reason as to why Josuke got pissed whenever someone insulted his hair. He didn’t expect people to think it was Josuke time traveling. Araki said this himself btw
@@Silentguy_ imagine popping a pill and waking up to see purple haze inches away from your face. That's how araki made such a beast and got PTSD so he had to write it out of the story
Unless I’m missing something it would be literally impossible for Josuke to save himself. If he dies in the snowstorm because nobody could save him then how could he be alive to go back in time and be able save himself?.
Oi Josuke! I accidentally used Za Hando on myself and erased Araki’s signature art style! I am in physical pain. Why is my hand square? Please send help
No no you have to Understand time travel,since he was the one who saved himself from the future ,that means he has to return to the past to save himself so he can save himself in the past
@@LeoLeo-yi5yx i still don't get why people are forgetting the fact that araki said that the dude wasn't josuke in an interview. Also the dude was a a second year student cuz he has two pins on his collar and doesn't have the pins on his chest like josuke
IMO, Araki probably planned for Kira to try to go back in time and kill Josuke as a last-ditch effort during the final battle, but grown-Josuke was able to go with him and keep him away from his younger self (coincidentally saving his life from the fever at the same time), explaining why he had the same injuries as during the final battle. It looks like Araki decided against whatever Stand ability/plot device allowed them to go back in time that far, and had to abandon the plot he foreshadowed.
Ooooh, that gives me an idea! Kira cuts his hand off again in the final battle after having it weighed down, succeeding in activating bites the dust. Josuke however, somehow grabs his severed hand and heals it at the same time, launching him into the time reversal with Kira. This somehow launches Josuke and Kira back to that night, because something about it has significance for both Josuke and Kira. It's never mentioned in the manga, but the timeline lines up, and I believe this night is both the night that Josuke is saved by a stranger, and the night Kira makes his first kill. 15 years before DIU. Why Bites the Dust does that? I don't know, but my guess is that because Bites the Dust's only purpose is to protect Kira, the night is the point where both Kira and Josuke's fates become intertwined, by Kira choosing to be a killer, and Josuke choosing to be like the man who saved him. From there I see two possible scenarios for the ultimate outcomes of Josuke and Kira. One, Josuke saves himself, and kills past Kira preventing all the deaths of the people he's killed therefore eliminating any reason why Josuke would be in the past. Or two, as they land in the past, Kira realizes he's still cornered by Josuke. He tries to no avail to activate Bites the Dust again, but having been pushed to it's limit, it doesn't work anymore. Josuke thusly wrecks his shit, saves his past self unknowingly, and in his last moments wanders into Morioh. He comes to the ghost alley, thinking he's died, but hears a commotion in one of the houses. Out emerges a young Kira, and at that sight Josuke collapses from both shock and his wounds. Struck upon him the realization that he's traveled backwards in time, and that he was always his own hero. The latter is not very light hearted or feel good, which is why I like it, but why I also think it wasn't the final cut of the ending. Some harsh reality of Josuke and Kira disappearing, never to be seen again wouldn't really fit the tone of the rest of the part, even though it's melancholic qualities more resemble the previous parts endings.
@@hannyfadia2246 I don't mind it either tbh, besides Araki has basically committed to solving the plot holes through the Rohan one shots. So in a way I think we're actually getting more out of it, ha.
I wonder what would happen if Josuke were to meet his savior again, and the guy insulted his hair by accident, saying something like "I can't believe I used to think such ridiculous hairstyle was cool!" while laughing or something like that.
Yes, the guy who saved Josuke is in the 3rd year judging by his badge. If I remember corectly, Josuke in p4 is a first-year so this man here can't be Josuke at the current end of p4. Maybe the original plotline extended more or had a timeskip. Only Araki knows that...
moss jame actually its josefumi from part 8 jojolion and is actually one of the joestars in jojolion and also you could read the chapter 53-54 josefumi said that he isn't supposed to exist and he also said he was saved by holly.
Except its not a plothole. It was never supposed to be Josuke saving himself. He doesnt have his jaket open and haves different decorations. The reason josuke looks exactly like him is because he is inspired by him.
I have a theory: the guy telling the story is Koichi, so he just imagined a guy with Josuke's characteristics as he needed to have Josuke's hair. Mistery solved
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>time travel is confusing
>deletes time instead
>Resets time instead
>"time travel is confusing" - Araki
>also Araki
>*Creates King Crimson who deletes time*
@@schooler5372 Its rewind time
'Cause King Crimson isn't confusing at all.
It just works
You telling me. That Joestar’s aren’t just naturally born 6 foot with a fighting spirit?
Well the first 3 were but now they're getting shorter
@@someonethatsinafucktonoffa104 its that cursed DIO blood that makes em shorter and less swole.
@@salvadorvega3805 but joseph fucked tomoko before stardust crusaders (i know this is a joke lmfao)
@@salvadorvega3805 but Dio was tall as shit too
@@grahamcrackers2478 And Josuke is actually a few CM shorter than Jotaro.
Kira: Bites Za Dusto!
Josuke: So it's the same type of stand as Crazy Diamond?
You mean,
So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum
@@ShadowKnight5204 eh half/woosh
@@WrathofFenrir99 Horry shitt
Asad Parvez yes yes yes omygod
@@WrathofFenrir99 Crazy Diamond its hermito purpuru in a humanoid form
"Was this Josuke?!?!"
lmao no he in the car
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No it was okuyasu before he shaved and josuke hid him from the series that he was friends with him way back josuke is at home being babysitter by a random dude
@@20kilogramsofbigmac but he would have been same age as josuke
Time travel: NONONO!
Other demensions existing: YES YES YES!
Or like with dbz it created an alternet timeline, where in he sonehow goes back in time, and saves himself, or saves his mother. From during, and a new timeline is created
But then how did he survive in the original timeline
@@wyatteisenschenk6576 a another another him saves him
Jojo cinematic universe
@@guwundam8293 but there must have been one that was first that wasn't saved
“There are people out there who don’t eat, sleep, and breath JoJo like some of us”
*Yare yare daze*
Why is your profile pic kakyoin even tho your doppio
Edit: his profile pic was kakyoin although his name was doppio
@@hughmungus9333 now its doppio
Araki: Nah, I'll just cancel al this "time travel stuff", it's too complicated.
Also Araki: KING CRIMSON TIME ERASE
@@crisalves9757 King Crimson is pretty simple though, while time-travel is INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT to write without creating huge plot-holes
Yare yare daze
Josuke say’s “so killer queen is the same type of stand as Crzay Diamond”
uhhh
Only jotaro has that ability, but josuke has..
"So that's the same type of look as me."
Josuke Higashikata it’s ok GER is related to space
ah crap here we go again lmao
@@crabravekrab1174J-JOUSKE?! TELL US WAS IT TRUE U WENT BACK IN TIME
Araki: Time travelling is so confusing
Also Araki: *RESETS A WHOLE UNIVERSE*
*TWICE*
@@ride-playerbb2818 once. The steel ball universe is simply a different universe
Araki: mmmm yeah scrap this idea
*Makes new universe*
@@sophia88885 mm yes I don’t know time travel so I will give pucci universe reset
@@hunterofdarkness8329 not gonna lie that would be lame as hell, it ain’t giorno’s story
Josuke when he learns the Stardust Crusaders really saved him: *well how do I do 5 hairstyles*
and dog ears
OH GOLLY I LOVE PURPLE SHEP lmfao yes
I mean if that student didn't get the car out of the snow, Josuke would've succumbed to his fever and died so he needs six hairstyles.
polnareff hairstyle
Lmao
Koichi was imagining Someone looking like Josuke so....
xd i think that's pretty plausible
makes sense tbh
Additionally, Araki said himself during Part 4's publication that there was basically no merit to Josuke's going back in time theory. Even more, Bites the Dust was already established during the final arc as an ability that sends you back in time by ONLY one hour. Josuke saving Josuke has no merit.
@@lucinavonnolaran8728 exactly
yeah i assumed it was koichi's lack of imagination and Josuke would be the only possible person who would have Josuke's hair
The guy didn't wear his jacket open at his chest. Not Josuke confirmed.
His jacket is open at the chest it's held by weird big heart shaped pins if he was wounded in battle those probably would of came off and left him looking like that
and also the details on his collar are different
@@nameless8025 well I dont think that stores would be selling the same exact stuff 10 years ago
Paperface 213 if he was josuke timetraveling it would be as of the state shown at teh end of part 4 not from 10 years ago
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r/whoosh?
Part 4 was so chaotic it didn’t even have a clear plot or main villain until like halfway through. Idk why but that’s what makes it my favorite part. Something about it just kinda being a small town where random things happen. Idk lol
tbh thats the point of part 4, is a quite hardcore Slice of life lmao
It enhances the concept of "Stand Users are drawn to each other by Fate".
Youre gonna love jojolion
this is so relatable, like i never really liked a slice of life format and like this weird storyline but something, just something makes Josuke my fsvourite jojo and part 4 my favourite part
For real, it felt like filler in a sense
I honestly think it works better with the guy being a complete stranger. It adds to josuke's character knowing that he was inspired by a stranger's act of kindness.
nobody Special what if that stranger is josuk8. Somehow Araki has a battle and josuk8 is wounded and sent to the past (Kira is calm in 8 so maybe instead of killing people with bites the dust he makes alt universe save the other universes selves fate) someone has to remind Araki of this scene of jojo and tell him to use josuk8 to fix the plot-hole in part 4 (and plot twist).
My future is pretty sad haha got em. ં the stranger is wearing different clothes so it’s not josuke
If it turns out it was really Josuk8 the entire time it'll cement Jojolion as the worst part
Kinda reminds me of part 5 Giorno, didnt he save a complete stranger as well and was inspired by him?
Crazy Diamond Requiem ....probably..
Because kira wanted Josuke to die from his fiever
*casually walks in a blizzard*
HAHHAHAHAHAH XD
The Joestar Sex drive repels the snow.
@@ゆい-c2y scuse me mate but within the content you should probs delete that
Blizzard: "Really? Instead of taking shelter, you're walking right into me?" Josuke: "I can't save my past self without getting closer." Blizzard: "Ohoho, come as far in as you'd like then."
The STRONGEST blizzard in 18 years.
I love how Josuke couldn't care less about the fact that it was technically Jotaro and the crusaders that defeated Dio that saved him
P
Man doesn't even know about Kakyoin, Avdol and Iggy who died for that, and Joseph who almost died trying
@Abhinav_08 jotaro mentioned dio and stuff
@@rylanlee5067But he didn’t tell him everything just a small summary about how he defeated dio
@@Shimxmxne you would think jotaro would mention it
I think it’s cuter to leave “josuke’s savior” as a random kid that was in the right place at the right time.... it makes me feel that anyone can become a hero if you have a kind heart!! I think the simplicity in that backstory it’s what makes it better!
That's what araki said it was meant to be
Only problem is, the guy is beat up but that could mean he’s a gang member that turned out to be a nice guy
@@cdntrooper3078 maybe he is a gangstar
@@sarans2926 yeah and he decided to be a nice guy that day
@@cdntrooper3078 😂
No way, it was definitely Speedwagon.
but it was i DIO
@@diobrando7957 KONO DIO DA
It was speedwagon and his stand Ambulance
You mean Speedweed?
DIO brando OMEA WA MOU SHINEIRU
It's definitely Koichi, he's so reliable
Yes
oh hi jotaro
that is a strong point
Josukes does all the work
Jotaro: koichi ur a reliable man
no he is short
Simple man. Koichis imagination is what was being seen in his memory, Koichi imagined the boy looking like Josuke.
THAT... makes a lot of sense. I completely forgot Koichi was telling the story.
Holy Jesus
It was supposed to be josuke but araki changed the plot later on
@@raygin6581 well call it a fanfiction if you must, but its the only logical rrason in lore. His plans were for it to be Josuke, but he never followed through in story
Ray Pin
In an interview from before Part 4 wrapped up the interviewer asked Araki about the stranger and how he would tie into the end of the part and Araki said: “Oh, he’s not involved, that’s not relevant.”
So it’s kind of the opposite of what you’re saying.
Fun fact: this theory is false, “The guy who saved josuke looks like josuke is because thats how koichi imagened him”
Yeah I know about this
Pls source
wasn't it josuke who said he got his hairstyle from the guy he was saved by and if it is disrespect to him whoever disses his hair or something? correct me if im wrong
@@williammanua8565 That only proves the OP's point, since he got his hairstyle from the guy who saved him, Koichi imagined him being the same as Josuke himself
Let me say something and you can say it wrong or right this might not be josuke but josuke has that uniform and hairstyle that means that the kid was like josuke not koichi’s imagination
Wasn’t Koichi telling the story so Koichi imagined the stranger being Josuke
Yea that's a possibility too
Unknown human holy shit this mans cracked it
Thats literally what i thought
Vito 13 Same
You are incredibly genius sir
So are we saying that Josuke is the reason that Josuke looks like Josuke?
Josukursion
Yes
What do you mean by me looks like me ?
@@LeoFtArgus your hair looks like a bird's nest
@@w.a.6618 To be continued
@@LeoFtArgus has anyone told you that your hair be looking like a fricking cooked steak?
i think it was
the most underrated forgotten chracter in part 4, the milk man
It's No Use! Ikr
It's No Use! No supects the milkman
Remember when he asked Rohan to put a hot lady in his manga? That was weird
art request nude I will pledge $5 in patreon
Or old lady murakami
I love how the entire fandom of this show is so hung up on this mysterious man that no one can just accept that a random man with a pompador helped a car stuck in snow in 1988 and then just left. Thats it.
its almost like, they forgot?
because it’s just deductive reasoning bro guy with same hair style with blood on his face out in the middle of a freaking blizzard while part of his face being obscured too in a story that involves time travel to a degree. All of these factors are very indicative of a scrapped time travel plot but people would rather believe it was planned all along
@@brace4impact258 I think these people who think it was a scrapped time travel plot only ever watch Jojo because that character looks exactly like a generic delinquent you'd see in almost every high school slice-of-life anime. In the society of japan people would look at Josuke and think he is a kid looking to do bad things to others. All delinquents take similar hairstyles and looks and are usually bullies or in gangs. The fact that a delinquent (someone society japanese society looks down on) had a kind heart and helped Josuke and his mother while a respectable looking business man Kira, is a serial killer is the intention. That guy was never meant to be Josuke, the blood doesn't need explanation if you know enough about delinquents or or watched enough school anime. They get in fights all the time because they rebel against the norms in japan. Simple as that, no scrapped time travel or anything.
@@brace4impact258 1. "Same hair style" isn't a point in your favor because that's literally a famous Japanese hairstyle for delinquents.
2. Time travel was only developed as a literal last-minute crutch for Kira to save himself with.
3. It was a small flashback to explain a running gag, it being "planned all along" isn't far-fetched.
4. There's an interview that disproves this all anyways
5. ruclips.net/video/pvwszolblwU/видео.html
Yeah a random man with bloody wounds on his face
Araki: Most likely thinks that time travel is too complicated and scraps it before it can get out of hand
Also Araki: *Diavolo*
Yeah but that's time travel backwards. That shits a mindfuck. Skipping time like king crimson is relatively simple to write, araki just didnt explain it well
also araki: Bites za dust!
@@lugabo5756 Dirty deeds done dirt cheap
He finally decided how time works in JoJo I guess.
Lacko Mode I’m not entirely sure, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I think D4C is more spatial travel. From what I’ve heard, it just has the ability to replace Valentine with a version of himself from a different universe, which isn’t really time related.
Araki: I want to avoid time travel in my story
Araki: Makes Bites the Dust, King Crimson, Made in Heaven, and D4C
To be fair, he probably needed time to develope those ideas.
D4c and over heaven don't time travel
@@mamasweet6045 technically none of them time travel. bites the dust rewinds time and king crimson skips time
@@karl5758 traveling to time is time traveling it is time travel
You thought Josuke had the first time travel, but it was me, Dio!
Koichi was the one telling the story so for me, It was him visualizing the man as Josuke because he knows how much Josuke idolizes the man but that's just my interpretation
Yeah Ok I see that.
That could kinda make sense, but, usually in this type of scenes in anime/manga, were someone is telling something that happened, the flashback always is represented accurately as posible, so the viewer/reader can understand what actually happened
And, even if that were the case, why Koichi imagined the person that saved josuke all damaged, with all the blood and wounds over his face? I think that's the biggest problem.
Juancho El Negro Maybe Josuke saw the wounds when he was little and he also described that to Koichi and that's why he's imagining it too...
The strangest of this all is how good Josuke's memory is, as he was like 5 and had a heavy fever. But that's just normal Jojo logic.
Cake Knight then why did he have the shit beat out of him?
Because he's a delinquent. Delinquents get into fights.
Josukes requiem stand fixing reality.
Araki in Part 194: _reveals it was actually alternate universe Josuke_
Everyone: :o
To be fair, that actually makes sense
literally that guy is Josefumi Kujo, case closed
Alternative universe Josuke exist though, and I'm not seeing a lot of similarities. I mean there can be a whole multiverse, but I don't think Araki made more than the original and the new one (I haven't read part 6-8 yet so yeah I'm not sure.)
MTF Unit Foxtrot-6 Commander it does actually. There’s the other guy in part 8 (I read it I just forgot his name.) that also has a pompadour. Plus he also is a part of josuke 8. It kind of does but that would be a fucking complicated plot.
Why can I see this happening
“Hi I’m not Josuke, I will not Josuke save you! I’m not Josuke.” -Not Josuke 2020
~~He's not Josuke~~
He’s not really
He's not Josuke
But he is not a josuke
Oi not Josuke
I always just thought the snow guy looked exactly like Josuke because Koichi was told by Josuke that he looks exactly like him, so from Koichi's perspective, he just imagined the snow guy that way. Koichi even says himself that it's not accurate and he is just making his own assumptions. Honestly this still sounds like the most likely option.
that's what I think too, all koichi knows is that the guy wore a student's uniform and had a pompadour.
That definitely fits with Araki’s going out of his way to discredit the “Josuke saved himself” theory.
tbh i've come to think that Josuke told Koichi some bullshit just to cover up some absurd or silly reason behind his hairstyle
Anime doesn't work this way
@@priyojyotibrahma18 JoJo is not your average anime.
Wow this has to be one of the most sounded araki forgots and it also happens to be one of the most stupid ones out there. (Araki literaly says in an interview this was just a good samaritan made to build josukes character motivations)
Araki forgot is actually I" forgot a detail that Araki explained and didn't understand something so I am going to blame araki"
@@lowbatteryprime2050 Indeed
I like how people say this is an araki forgot and then say that he remembered to give josuke the exact same wounds in the final fight
Yeah, it makes sense, I also was in the middle of a blizzard when suddenly a guy that looked the same as I but 16 years older appear out of nowhere even if he was bleeding from a fight that happend during the blizzard...
@@AlfredoPuente8 That is such a cool story, thanks man
Fun fact, Araki said in an interview that this character was unrelated in anyway to Josuke when asked about how he cut a time travel plot where he saves his younger self.
Which interview, there are alot of fake, araki said in an interview, so i need sources pls
@@PivotAngelic Its from like 1996 or something, look it up
I wouldn't want to admit that I made and embarrassing time travel paradox either
@@c.danteosorio2688 Bruh.
How is it implied that snow guy is Josuke from the Future? Like, at all. I doubt Araki would change Josuke’s age (the pins on snow guy’s jacket denote that he is a senior) and outfit so drastically throughout the part.
@@ronramen5827 I mean, it could have been that this arc could have potentially taken place a couple of years after Diamond is unbreakable following an older Josuke fighting a new stand users whose ability is to time travel.
I never had a problem with how similar the mysterious teenager looks to Josuke. I thought it was literally just an explanation for Josuke's hair, and that's that..
It was Koichi's mind who was makin the images
@@mooncandlelight3968 makes sense. Many stories do that where when it’s a character imagining an event, they replace things with things they know. The only difference here is that the guy is wearing a normal uniform, which makes sense as josuke’s is josuke’s.
@@mooncandlelight3968 that's the best excuse everyone is telling themselves in order to excuse Noriaki for having a plot hole. It's okay mate, it's just a plot hole, no excuses needed. Just leave it at that.
@@ekimolaos
Like, if someone tells you they have something like someone, like i dont know, their clothes, you would think about the person who inspired them, being like them, don't you?
@@mooncandlelight3968 dude with all those "like" you typed back there, your sentence hardly makes any sense.
Yeah that memory theory is nice and all. But that's not how manga flashbacks work. Or any flashbacks be it comic, animated or movie. They just show what happened. It's just one plot hole in a manga that doesn't take itself too seriously. Stop overthinking it. Artists change their minds/forget about stuff all the time. They're just human after all. It happens.
Anything is possible with Araki not clarifying👌
Araki Forgot.
It just works
The God of Soap, Kekcario Thanks, I'll actually read it when I have the time! ❤
Theory, this is actually parallel world josefumi while in high school,(this isn't even a theory more of a small interesting idea) ps don't look up Josefumi if you aren't caught up on part 8.
He actually did and confirmed that he was never going to be josuke
My own theory is that the guy wasn’t josuke and why he was walking around in the snow, bleeding in the middle of the night, is that he was fighting yoshikage himself. This is why yoshikage says he hates fights because he probably got into a brutal fight with this guy and this guy ended up dying in the snow that night.
ayo, this is actually a good theory
@@alysonlabanda4309 thank you!
Good theory but I doubt that. Otherwise Kira would've mentioned this guy to josuke since they have the same hair
@@Invicktor araki forgot
So he was a stand user? No way he survived against Kira without a stand
wow isnt it weird how josuke looks like the guy he is trying to look like?
@@baconcool5834 You know, their is this funny thing called “satire.” You’ve probably never heard it
@@baconcool5834 there's always this one dude
@@baconcool5834 tbh if you understood the joke this reply thread would be way better
@@meidoinhebun2220 should i delete my reply my humor is not good
@@JustinnParadise am not ganna lie never heard what a satire was
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Araki: Yes
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It's actually Josefumi Kujo
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@@kaiokenx20_ Vocal percussion on a whole nother level
The real Jojo question is where does jotaros hair start and end and is the hat hair
Bruh you should know that
*like a pro*
I pretty sure if im correct, araki confirmed that jotaro's hat is part of his body
Yonatahn Domingos I mean I’m not sure though I swear he takes his hat off at one point like in the battle of Terrence D’arby the video game stand in stardust crusaders
@@maskedman9264 he does, and it also gets knocked off while fighting N'Doul with Iggy
yes
Personally I prefer it being just some kind stranger because we can see the effect it had on jouske not just in appearance but also personality in how he's kind of a delinquent but also a great person
“Time travel is confusing” says the guy who writes every antagonists with a time related ability
That's not the same thing
Still not a time travel
Ricardo Kujo killer queen kinda was
@@lucysteel2686 DIO can stop time, Kira can reverse time and Diavolo can see in the future by seeing someone's fate
Radical Conservative yea- no, there’s a difference between time control and time travel.
Y’all are overthinking it bro. It’s not Josuke or just any stranger.....
It’s obviously the man, the myth, the legend,
Jean Pierre Polnareff
(Edit: it’s been half a year and people are still acting like I’m serious)
Allll the way from Egypt. You know just a small detour from Dio
i wish josuke had polnareff's hairstyle
He went to italy tho
He did not that was a government conspiracy. There is no concrete evidence he was there it’s all a governmental lie just like the earth being round and that the moon is an actual thing. Wake up sheeple
uh oh
Maybe Araki intended to Kill Josuke in the end, but liked him too much so changed it to Kira dying instead. Wouldnt be surprised.
I like the idea of the character being a stranger but i wish araki had given an arc where josuke finds him.
It was not Josuke it's
It's METAL BAT in OPM
@Nathan NO NO NO boi not that Metal Bat
YES
Von stroheim
AAAAHH
rolfe nuñez i thought it was “Onigawara” from Mob Psycho 100 :P
Actually its YOU FELL FOR IT FOOL, THUNDER CROSS SPLIT ATTACK.
=v=
DIRE
GOLDEN EXPERIENCE.
You thought I would actually read the rest of the comment without knowing something was up? YOU FOOL THUNDER CROSS SPLIT ATTACK
4:50 "Because it was Josuke's time to be hero"
The ambulance: hAhAhAhAHAHAhAHHHhAHHAHHAHAHHAHahhahahHahhaH
BAKA MORAGA
@@alek5282 BRAAAKAMONOGA
More like
Ambulance:
*laughs in siren*
Electricity Creeper Siren head???
*"The curse that needs to beat DIO to cure the fever"* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
when i was watching i legit thought josukes stand could rewind time and thats why he was able to heal people because he was rewinding time on their wound and fixing it so i thought at the end he would go back in time and push the car for his mum
no shit, especially what he did to the spaghetti
honestly i feel like all the jojo stands (at least for 3-6, idk anything abt 7 and 8) could be read as a form of time travel, or at least manipulation? esoteric and overly technical to read it like that, especially 5 and 6, but technically possible. granted that's a lot of lore discussion that i wouldn't know enough to dispute and is probably ultimately meaningless bc its jojo but food for thought?
not to jump on a 4 month old comment oops
Same
This is what im saying, if crazy diamond got requiem, and he was able to fix the whole universe back when he was sick and save himself
@@slayinggold1622 Reverse Earth Rotation
I like to believe that it was just a student who happened to move away. Josuke being inspired so much by a random act of human kindness is far more touching and personal then some sort of time travel shenanigans.
I think that if they klled of Josuke with the time travel as he stops Kira in a fight through time could have been and incredibly sad and effective ending in the same level if not better than steel ball run
Garrett Carter I like to believe that too. It makes sense and makes a better story imo.
+Manuel Sacha chill the fuck out
See, the problem with saying "It's obviously supposed to be Josuke or it wouldn't look exactly like him" is that this isn't a flashback. It's a story being told by Koichi. Since he only knows so many details, he probably just thinks of this mysterious stranger as looking exactly like Josuke, since he has no other frame of reference than "Josuke tries to look like him."
Brilliant.
“You thought it was Josuke who saved Josuke but... IT WAS I DIO!”
underrated comment here.
Kono Dio da!
Wryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
i though wants to murder the joestars because he wants the Joestar fortune
I mean yeah
Fun fact: Robbie Rotten had the same hair as josuke..
Bruno Bucciarati arividerci
Actually in Italian is "Arrivederci" but ok
Looks like Josuke really is #1
Takamura has similar hairstyle tho 🤔
Jimmy Kord okuyasu has a tiny version of josukes hair
Yes, I admit. It was me in DiU playing Josuke Higashikata. You got me.
Omg josuke higashikata please tell where is jo in higashikata
@@mushroom3807 simple: there isn’t! The second half of my name, ‘-suke’ can be pronounced as ‘jo’ so if that was the case, my name would be ‘JoJo’! Why is this the case, you ask?
I have no idea!
@@josukehigashikata72 imposter..
@@josukehigashikata3533 yes, you are right, you are an imposter.
iM sUrE NoT aLl oF yOu rEmeMbEr tHiS sCeNE
I don't think these guys realize how much sleep I've lost over this Damn scene...
And how much im currently still losing
He says not all of you. Not everyone remembers. Simple as that.
@@Dekudicklicker ...
How could you forget this scene
Really glad I'm not the only one lol
seriously what was up with that wounded stranger!?
lol noob lost sleep
i still believe that it was intended to be josuke originally, but as things are now, i imagine he only looks like josuke because of tomoko not getting a good look at him because of the snowstorm, so she wasn't able to tell josuke exactly how he looked besides the most outstanding thing about him, as in the mystery man's hairstyle. koichi is just parroting what josuke told him offscreen, and i imagine that koichi imagines the man to look exactly like josuke does now
I don't buy " koichi imagines the man to look exactly like josuke does now"
In similiar scenes i've seen in that past that wouldn't really make any sense.
It's the only explanation I can think of for why this man looks like Josuke as a teenager. I believe Koichi was told that Josuke modeled himself after the mystery man because he idolized him for saving his life, and that can be interpreted in several different ways
and for shit and giggles threw the beat up part for fun.
I think Araki just forgot or something came up
Hugo Hikari Though, he did picture blood all over him too.
Hugo Hikari I just think it's something Araki planned but then scrapped. He does that a lot.
It was probably Space Dandy.
He's a dandy man in space
Before I watched the part I saw Josuke and I kept calling him space dandy
Or Bull from brawl stars
New theory: it was Prince
My guess is that josuke was supposed to develop a rewind power to mirror Kira’s just like jotaro’s mirrored dio
That actually makes sense!!!
I mean his stand power is rewinding already yeah?
Return to the past, now
@@smiith5 bRO
@@batayan_
I'm sorry for making that reference.
It's Metal Bat from One Punch Man, Satiama was reading JoJo in a recent OVA. And they said Infinity war was the most ambitious crossover.
Oh shit your right
Obligatory why are you everywhere comment
WHY ARE YOU EVERYWHERE?
Hah u will never beat the myth the legend the god, justin y in a battle
The dude is everywhere,is he stalking me 😑
@@Mali-yx2ez no u r
to think of it.
the man, josuke admired for years was himself
The ultimate narcissist
'DIO intensifies'
*wow*
Took the phrase "Love yourself" to another level
My guess for the storyline for this was yoshigake being able to remember the terrible blizzard that hit morioh and used bites the dust to send him Josuke back at that time to die and not recover. However, even though Josuke was stuck in that timeline, he also remembers the day to be the exact same day he would have met the guy who would have saved his life. So, Josuke would try to go back to that area just to have a last glimpse at that guy with not having a care in the world since he is stuck in that time and just wants to see the guy one last time before he died. However, Josuke was at the right place and at the right time and would see his mom stop the car, but is shocked to not see the guy who he would use as a role model. So, he decided to get the van that his mom is driving to get moving in the heavy storm.
THIS SHOULD BE CANNON
What if that's how Jojolion ends? With Jo2uke saving Josuke?
technically Josuke is the Jo2uke
mfw araki could do this no problem but it will end up has "araki forgot" like always.
What if because if made in heavens ability caused joskue to go back in time and for him to help himself. Think about it the guy came out of nowhere and had the same uniform the joskue has.
josefumi saved josuke?
I have a same thing like you
''the right man in the wrong place can make all the diffrence in the world..''
G-man.
He’s the G-man!
_Yes._
99 percent of stardust crusader episodes.
Honestly, I just thought that it was some kid that helped them, and Josuke decided to look like him.
That’s it.
"They were about a mile away from the nearest house"
The manga pannel: 1:51
What if it was just a normal “cool guy” person the whole time
It is.
it is
It is
It is
it is
There’s something nice about the idea of Araki not knowing how to finish the story and just being like: Ah fuck it, let’s confuse the readers
Almost as if josuke looks like the guy that saved him because he wanted to look like him but thats way too bizarre apparently
Araki: I wanna clear my mind, I give this role to you Pucci
The guy that help josuke was josefumi he had same age as kira but lost without any trace i think in future when pucci power being reversed we going to intruduce about josefumi identity and his stand it like josefumi help josuke for some reason have something to do about how stand user was meant to be meet
Araki just forgo- lazy
araki forgor
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My only thing was Koichi was telling the story, maybe that's why it looks like Josuke.
That is not the actual problem.
It is the fact, that a Highschool student with fresh wounds was standing in the middle of an blizzard, miles way form the town, at the right time to say Josuke.
because if you say Josuke in another moment that would be catastrophic
"time travel is confusing"
king crimson:
It was Space Dandy
Or Ryu of the wooden sword. It would make even more sense LOL.
Life on the road, bro.
Maybe...
Shinchiro?
Nah
Boone
Dandy
I actually like thinking he was Space Dandy
A dandy guy in space
Come on, that is obviously Avdol
Rang MOHAMMED ABDULU?!
@@homiecreeper197 YES, I AM!!!
@@rang4889 I-IS THAT REALLY YOU?!
@@jebotimamu273 TSK TSK
Nah dumbass it’s obv iggy and polnareff
When I saw what Bites the Dust could do, I thought that punk in the snow could very well be Josuke. However, it was never addressed and Araki seems like the guy that would if it was. The inexplainable in art is in the eye of the beholder, and I like to see it as simply someone who had a kind heart and became a father figure to Josuke to the point of imitation.
It was actually Josuke's great great great, grandfather from the past, Joel Joestar.
From Vinesauce
Imma joestar?
@@Dontcare_at_all nope, sorry bro
or Julio or Jason.
My name is fucking joel
plot twist: The world was Jonathan's stand and Dio was just way to embarrassed to admit it
Ngl this would make sense
Ik this a joke but no
@@neohuntley5872 why no?
@@guscanterbury9225 I would think, just maybe, that becausea stand is a manifestation from your mind,it would be dio's because a stand has nothing to do with your body
@@yojimbo_ejh now Dio also has jonathan's stand tho, so I'd say it's flexible
My question is.. how the hell does he remember, in detail, the hairstyle of a complete stranger he saw for a few brief moments when he was a todler, enough to recreate it every single day
YES
Flashbulb memories can last a long time. It was literally a guy who saved his life, I’m sure you’d remember them for the rest of your life in near perfect detail. A high percentage of people who heard the news of 9/11 were able to recall what exactly they were doing when they discovered the news and they weren’t even in danger! Imagine how much more vivid the memory would be if you were the plane crash survivor. Fascinating stuff, sorry if I come off in a bitchy way.
He probably asked his mom what he looked like
A childhood hero is a big thing for a child. But I’m 100% sure that guy that saved Josuke is Yosuke from Yu Yu Hakasho.
@@wystrix439 yo I never knew this type of memory has a name, that’s cool.
this video did so much damage to the fandom
iconic
I like the Idea that Josuke's hero was just a cool dude who happened to be in the right place, at the right time. Not time-travel shenanigans or some other bullshit, just a person who saw a family in need.
Kahzarod #Respect
Kahzarod i saw this same comment earlier
Kahzarod my god THANK YOU. I really feel that's what araki wanted it to be, not this kingdom hearts convoluted bullshit time travel.
IKR
And it really expresses the main theme of part 4 . . . being a good Samaritan
See, when Bites The Dust was introduced, I thought that Kira would use it as he was being killed, resulting in the ability going berserk, and sending everyone way further back in time than an hour, causing chaos. But then Josuke would realize that, since Crazy Diamond could fix things, he would "fix" the timeline, and on his way back to the present, he would save his younger self.
Also, the fact that there was absolutely no trace of that hero who saved Josuke really lends itself to the idea that the hero actually was a time-traveling Josuke.
I like the morbid idea that the random student died in the cold. Well, maybe not like but that's what I think most likely happened to him.
MrLCGO
later he would die of the cold
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LaserFace23
I used to think that killer queen's ability would have been to send other individuals into the past (a la weeping angels) and this would "break" the time-line. Kira, in his final showdown, sent Josuke a decade onto the past, and Josuke would have to fix the time line by saving himself to defeat Kira.
But the thing is how did present day Josuke survive the fever? When he saves himself who saved him? You get what I mean.
VeylmanTheRock yeah like wtf how can he save himself in the past if he already survived
I think originally Josuke was supposed to die, but Araki changed his mind and didn't want to kill him off. My idea is that through some enhanced version of Bites the Dust or whatever specific event, Josuke is sent back in time after being badly injured, and in his last dying moments he recognizes where he is and saves his past self so he can live and grow up to sacrifice himself to save his friends. I think the fact that the mysterious teen is all beat up like Josuke near the final fight, and also that he has this somber look on his face and is so adamant in helping push the car, would be evidence that this is Josuke knowing exactly what is going on and accepting his fate. Or something like that, just an idea.
That would help explain why DiU is so relatively important death-free.
Jay Reviews holy shit
Jay Reviews I wish
Wow reading this actually made me kinda sad. Josuke isn't even my favorite JoJo but the thought of him dying at the end of DiU would have made the ending alot more sad.
NERRRRRRRD
does nobody except me not notice that the boy doesn't wear the uniform remotely similar to how josuke does
"The wounds are similar" minus the giant fucking pole in his stomach yeah kinda
XD
And the giant poles in his legs, and the fact he could barely stand at the end of the fight
It was koichi's mind
That's about what I thought as well about the uniforms. Josuke's is very stylized around the collar/lapels, while his is more of what you'd expect for just about every other background character. Plus, dude's got on some kind of grayish sweater instead of Josuke's yellow sleeveless shirt.
Plot twist: the kid that was "Josuke" didn't survive and Tomoko adopted the teenager and named him Josuke
What the Dio-sama is this?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wait so which josuke is josuke
Ok so "josuke" is the saviour right
Less pink than pink no “josuke” is the sick boy
@@7f_seanmuhammadputramuhidi837 ahh that makes sense
Lol ok guys so Araki legit said he didn’t plan to do shit with the character since so many were asking. He just wanted Josuke to have an inspiration and wanted a reason as to why Josuke got pissed whenever someone insulted his hair. He didn’t expect people to think it was Josuke time traveling. Araki said this himself btw
Cheers
yare yare daze this video was posted three years ago
I’m honestly convinced that Araki’s daily intake consists more of hallucinogenic drugs than it does food.
@@Silentguy_ imagine popping a pill and waking up to see purple haze inches away from your face. That's how araki made such a beast and got PTSD so he had to write it out of the story
Mind sharing the source?
Unless I’m missing something it would be literally impossible for Josuke to save himself.
If he dies in the snowstorm because nobody could save him then how could he be alive to go back in time and be able save himself?.
What I’m saying!!
@Richard Müller so that would mean he wouldn't need to save himself because he would survive either way
But little josuke is still alive right?
But what about alternate timelines like in Steins;Gate
Ofc it doesn't make sense in the same timeline
Since this is koiski’s memory i think he thought up of someone who looks similar to joskue but that wouldn’t explain the injuries though.
Yeah ,the injuries? 😕
Koiski?
MikazukiAugus koichi
@@cielkaneki3683 yea
Don't worry I've been watching jjba from pt. 1-9 (manga)
Koiski
What a beautiful Duwang.
Chew.
My man understands.
*THIS* *FEELS* *LIKE* *A* *PICNIC*
*chew*
Oi Josuke! I accidentally used Za Hando on myself and erased Araki’s signature art style! I am in physical pain. Why is my hand square? Please send help
No no you have to Understand time travel,since he was the one who saved himself from the future ,that means he has to return to the past to save himself so he can save himself in the past
@@LeoLeo-yi5yx i still don't get why people are forgetting the fact that araki said that the dude wasn't josuke in an interview. Also the dude was a a second year student cuz he has two pins on his collar and doesn't have the pins on his chest like josuke
@@spaeee2108 it doesn't matter how older he was,it's in the future
@@LeoLeo-yi5yx wut, the dude that saved josuke scene was in the past
My Crazy Diamond can't bring back stuff that The Hand takes away
“Wounds that are exactly identical.” Proceeds to show wounds that are not exactly identical.
Did you change your mind Araki?
*NO NO NO NO*
...
Araki, did you forget?
*YES YES YES YES*
*YEEEEEES*
Oh my God...
Andres Lopez Guillen yes yes yes oh my god
*Doctor:* *You cant hear lines,it is madness if you do...*
*Me;*
@Davi Lopes I used that same excuse whenever i forgot something
@Davi Lopes :D
Araki Forgot.
Change My Mind and you will become assistant to our lord and Savior himself Mr. SpeedWagon Sama
@@suparibhau already watch it thanks mate.. But it's still not change my opinion 😂
IMO, Araki probably planned for Kira to try to go back in time and kill Josuke as a last-ditch effort during the final battle, but grown-Josuke was able to go with him and keep him away from his younger self (coincidentally saving his life from the fever at the same time), explaining why he had the same injuries as during the final battle. It looks like Araki decided against whatever Stand ability/plot device allowed them to go back in time that far, and had to abandon the plot he foreshadowed.
Ooooh, that gives me an idea! Kira cuts his hand off again in the final battle after having it weighed down, succeeding in activating bites the dust. Josuke however, somehow grabs his severed hand and heals it at the same time, launching him into the time reversal with Kira. This somehow launches Josuke and Kira back to that night, because something about it has significance for both Josuke and Kira. It's never mentioned in the manga, but the timeline lines up, and I believe this night is both the night that Josuke is saved by a stranger, and the night Kira makes his first kill. 15 years before DIU.
Why Bites the Dust does that? I don't know, but my guess is that because Bites the Dust's only purpose is to protect Kira, the night is the point where both Kira and Josuke's fates become intertwined, by Kira choosing to be a killer, and Josuke choosing to be like the man who saved him. From there I see two possible scenarios for the ultimate outcomes of Josuke and Kira. One, Josuke saves himself, and kills past Kira preventing all the deaths of the people he's killed therefore eliminating any reason why Josuke would be in the past. Or two, as they land in the past, Kira realizes he's still cornered by Josuke. He tries to no avail to activate Bites the Dust again, but having been pushed to it's limit, it doesn't work anymore. Josuke thusly wrecks his shit, saves his past self unknowingly, and in his last moments wanders into Morioh. He comes to the ghost alley, thinking he's died, but hears a commotion in one of the houses. Out emerges a young Kira, and at that sight Josuke collapses from both shock and his wounds. Struck upon him the realization that he's traveled backwards in time, and that he was always his own hero.
The latter is not very light hearted or feel good, which is why I like it, but why I also think it wasn't the final cut of the ending. Some harsh reality of Josuke and Kira disappearing, never to be seen again wouldn't really fit the tone of the rest of the part, even though it's melancholic qualities more resemble the previous parts endings.
@@Newt0rz holy fuck this is actually insane
@@Newt0rz that's actually pretty good
Tho, i don't mind current DiU ending. We need more happy ending in jojo
@@hannyfadia2246 I don't mind it either tbh, besides Araki has basically committed to solving the plot holes through the Rohan one shots. So in a way I think we're actually getting more out of it, ha.
@@Newt0rz could you tell me the title of that one shot? Seems interesting
I wonder what would happen if Josuke were to meet his savior again, and the guy insulted his hair by accident, saying something like "I can't believe I used to think such ridiculous hairstyle was cool!" while laughing or something like that.
Maybe Josuke smacks the person with his hair lol
Josuke would change his hair to what that guy's hair looks like now and just copy him forever
@@BlackIronHero "so it's the same type of hair as mine"
It would become a paradox, someone insulted Josuke’s hair but the one insulting it is Josuke’s idol so should Josuke get mad or not
THIS WAS 7 YEARS A AGO?!?!?
Why does Araki hate continuity?
Why does connor hate humans
Why don’t we know how much bread we’ve eaten in our life
He probably forgot about it.
Bizarre knows no continuity
"Oops,I forgot,"
-Hirokiko Araki
Wait the guy who saved Josuke has different badges on his sweat shirt
Me
@@syd5939 AAA-
*To be continued...*
Yes, the guy who saved Josuke is in the 3rd year judging by his badge. If I remember corectly, Josuke in p4 is a first-year so this man here can't be Josuke at the current end of p4. Maybe the original plotline extended more or had a timeskip. Only Araki knows that...
@@syd5939 wtf
Yes and
i like to think that this is a Josuke who died from "bites the dust"
that's deep !
na thats not josuke he wold use crazy diamond if he was him
Trinity [] he can't use crazy diamond because his energy is out and like hamon they need energy to use it
moss jame actually its josefumi from part 8 jojolion and is actually one of the joestars in jojolion and also you could read the chapter 53-54 josefumi said that he isn't supposed to exist and he also said he was saved by holly.
I play that's a different universe tho and Holly's name in part 8 is Holly Kira
i like to imagine josukes saviour sitting on a couch with a beer watching the events of part 4 unfold on the news
Its not josuke
Only kakyoin would be able to save a milf
Keep it at 69 likes
Dammit
Because no one can just reflect the emerald splash.
Maybe Dio punched his soul into the body of this random dude amd he saw a milf in distress and decided to help her
Duh
Josuke was so touched by the boy who saved him he even styled his body type after him
Araki is such a genius to put bizarre in the title
Because plot holes will literally be explained as “it’s BIZARRE”
Except its not a plothole. It was never supposed to be Josuke saving himself. He doesnt have his jaket open and haves different decorations. The reason josuke looks exactly like him is because he is inspired by him.
@@makzionut7096 also it's Koichi telling the story so he imagines the guy as what Josuke told him
@@beritena but what about the wounds?
ElPatoAmo exactly like if its not josuke who is he? You’d expect him to be some kind of a fighter with these wounds
Mr. Random It’s not a plot hole. At all.
Another thing people forget is that its koichi imagining the story, so naturally he would think the person looks almost exactly like josuke
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I have a theory: the guy telling the story is Koichi, so he just imagined a guy with Josuke's characteristics as he needed to have Josuke's hair. Mistery solved