First game was a duo 2nd was a 4 man both were swf. 1st game was a bad game with nurse with no addons for sure. But they were better then average, average survivors don't dead hard a nurse point blank or even attempt misdirection. Swf isn't just the coms it's joining 4 strong together. That 4 man got together through it, a lot of the time dbd is balanced by having 1 or 2 weak links. Buffing solo to swf I don't see as possible and addressing swf would be fast. Lastly where were these variables you got saying exactly x seconds? I don't know what the debuff would be. You seemed so certain on these imaginary times. You'll get loads of props because your defending swf, but we all know it creates a platform to hugely balance the game. I'm just trying to figure out ways to balance it more. Maybe I'll do a video response, I just don't get why talking about a rebalance of swf is so taboo.
Are you familiar with the thought experiment, ‘The Ship of Theseus?’ in the field of identity metaphysics? I thought not. It’s not a story Hayward would tell you. It’s a thought experiment. The "Ship of Theseus" was the ship of Theseus, so powerful and so wise it could use its 30 oars to influence the water to make way… It had such a buoyancy that it could even keep the ones it cared about from dying. The art of sailing and floating is a pathway to many destinations some consider to be unnatural. It became so powerful… the only thing the ship was afraid of was decaying and being replaced, which eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, its planks of wood rotted over time, and then they were replaced with new planks. Ironic. The ship could keep others from death, but not itself.
Tru3, All I saw from your tweets, honestly, was just suggesting balance changes. I didn't get anything like "swf is scum of the earth" or "swf needs to be punished!!" Or similar levels of what some people are saying.... I don't think it's fair to put words in Tru3's mouth or to overrexgerate the situation. Both very respectable content creators I enjoy very much.
I'd be interested in a video response / live debate as I respect both you and Scott greatly. My only advice to both parties would be to actively make an effort to take nothing personally in order to stick to objective discussion. I'm sure neither side would say anything with the intent to cause offense, just keep that in mind! Much love.
the reason for it being 'taboo' is because you could essentially be punishing a group of friends for wanting to play together. i dont see any ingame debuffs being fair for a swf. not to mention its not impossible for 4 solos to all be good which would make a psuedo '4 man high skill cap' - the communication
ok hear me out... event where 4 players play as each member of the legion 16 survivors only mother's dwelling (or Ormond but it might be too small) perfection
I mean- I have 3700 Hours in DBD. And can admit that most of the time when I lose, it's because I'm shit. Even if I'm whiney at myself- At least I can say, "Wow. And they all get away because I'm fucking dogwater. T^ T" Waiting to hear that from Tru, and I've heard it from Scott a ton.
@@raingerdiesalot Yup! Agreed. Its good to analyze yourself, Im the same way, and instead of bitching i use it,and LEARN and realize mistakes rather than pointing at the other side and going, this is OP, thats b.s. etc. Like anything in life, you learn from mistakes, watching others, especially those that are more experienced and by just "doing" it. Getting better at anything can feel demoralizing, especially when other people are involved in ur progression, but at the end of the day, once you start seeing improvement its VERY rewarding. Its also a game, and were human we make mistakes... theres good days and bad days lol. Welcome to life everyone 🤣
i wasnt surprised tbh. i watch him occasionaly and he will very quickly say off of like one chase something like "this survivor is high caliber i can tell" when the chase just started or went on for 20 seconds. i think he overestimates his opponents so he can feel better when he bests them. even if they werent really that great
@@jerometaylor2618 the problem is that red ranks are so easy to get into to begin with. It should just be harder or they need to remove ranks or make ranks actually mean something.
@@CityPopHorror I agree for sure, all I'm saying is looking at a profile that's says they've only been playing for 2 months doesn't necessarily mean that's the truth
People shouldn’t be bashing Scott or true it’s literally just opinions on how the game should be changed and has no serious stakes, just a point of discussion.
Any swf on comms can be high caliber though. Even at yellow ranks. 16 perks across 4 survivors in a team on comms against 4 perks for 1 killer on his own. Does that sound fair? I play both sides equally btw so I’m not an entitled killer or survivor “main”. Out of interest do you watch many tournaments? Notice anything in them? Imagine watching a tourney where survivors have 4 perk slots each and don’t lose 🤦🏼♂️
@@JonnaJonesOG Tournaments are never a great example of how good or bad SWF can be. Simply put, there are rules in place in tournaments that make it harder for at least one side, and usually it's for killers. One great example is rarity of items/addons. Many tournaments will ban Very Rare and Ultra Rare addons, which tend to be strong addons for killers. Yes, the three most powerful tournament killers (Spirit, Nurse, Hag) don't need those rarity of items, but you also rarely see those killers in tournaments in which survivors live more often, because the killers tend to get banned as well.
That quote can be used to describe the majority of complaint posts about SWF on reddit or the forums. People think any type of coordination is SWF. And majority of SWF players are just friends having fun and talking about random nonsense as they play. Yes they'll do callouts like "Oh its wraith and hes on me." but people think all SWF groups are these sweatlords.
I'm a survivor main and I usually get killed by SWF groups when I do play killer. As long as they aren't toxic about it this doesn't bother me at all. The only way to improve at anything is to practice against people better than you. With that in mind I welcome the challenge of facing the most difficult squads because it's only going to help me learn how to be a better killer.
Scott is making some great discussion points and arguments while everyone keeps talking about how they can’t stand tru anymore. I think we should discuss Scott’s subject material more than everyone’s personal feelings about tru before this video turns into a hate parade which isn’t the intention.
i think its because there isnt much to say about it. Scott is pretty much right. i cannot see any downside to just telling the killer swf members. but the video whether intentionaly or not shows/highlights tru3s ego problem where he is always right and the opposer is OP
@The Leshy yea he streams 6 hours and losses like 10 times and complains and wines everytime he loses and forgets the other 100 times he won easily I think he needs a chill pill
True likes to complain a lot sadly. I remember him playing against a pig with ruin. All game long he was looking for ruin, barely doing any gens while moaning about his 'bad team' not doing any gens. He has zero self awareness and a big ego. It's a shame because I like to watch him play.
he's always been this way, sadly. years ago he was the guy who uploaded garbage dark souls ii pvp builds and got pissed when people criticized them, then sent hatemail when they smacked him around at the actual pvp. years later i discover he's part of the community for yet another game i play heavily and i just sort of groaned.
@@boogiedaddy3434 I mean everyone have their own way of thinking not making him have a big ego lol cause let’s not lie everyone who play dbd have a big ego
@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 noob3 disappear for 1 year so hard to respond otz is just a handsome man and I don’t know the other one and tofu well mostly do random build but believe me 85 of the player have the biggest ego
Tru3's attitude has definitely changed over the years. I feel like he started getting angrier at the game a couple years ago for whatever reason that may be and I feel has started to fuel this kind of attitude he now has. I dont think its his fault directly. Your mental state has a huge impact on your attitude and gameplay. I hope he's doing OK as the first dbd content creator I got into.
The devs should at least let the killer know who was SWF during the endgame screen. If I knew I lost to a 4 or 3 man SWF at the end of the match, I wouldn't feel so bad for getting destroyed.
I would like this as well so the killer knows I wasn't swf (forever soloq 😅). Many times the killer would blame "swf" for a loss and it would be nice for them to see that not every game is swf.
@@RoxE22 fr, only time i know its a SWF is when they have the same names and they're extremely cordinated and do everything at perfect timing, other than that, there is no way to tell.
honestly id prefer they tell you before hand. you get an inherent advantage with comms sometimes, so the killer should be able to get a small advantage by knowing to expect coordination at the very least.
The hardcore killer and survivor mains alike are some of the kindest and most understanding people. Despite never having played the other side, they have adequate experience to criticise imbalance. It's truly amazing
@@justmob9917 exactly, i told my friend that and he responded by saying dbd is "toxic" and most arguments were "one sided" no idea what he was talking about
But Scott literally said it doesn't say how hard you have to go I thought, since in his words most SWF's play for fun, where do you make the difference?
@@nomastomas002 yes Scott said before “this game at absolute peak skill level is survivor sided” and swf only expands on this. But even in swf not all of them are playing at the highest level. Usually when I draw a swf it consists of one person that knows how to loop and is literally carrying his team who only know how to push gens optimally. But that’s the problem the killer is only able to capitalize by killing off the weak links. Playing against survivors that simply don’t make these mistakes the killer can’t gain any momentum. A chain with no weak links doesn’t break.
The two things about Tru3 that made me stop watching him altogether is that I honestly believe he brings up controversial topics to create drama in the community which in turn gives him more attention and views, and that he is very arrogant to the point where he believes people who disagree with him simply cannot handle the "truth". Maybe I am being too judgemental of him, in which case I apologize, but he just consistently does this over and over.
You’re so right!! Combined with his constant hypocritical statements, it had become more and more stressful to watch him. But honestly in his defense, if I would play killer for as long as he has, almost every day for years in this community, I guess everyone would shift into a more negative person over time… 👀
@@caseyaulbach7693 Holy fucking shit I literally said the exact same thing almost word for word before opening the replies to the comment and seeing yours!
@@ghostlyexe he could've and just disagreed, is scott a god at this point ? of course not, his views still can be wrong, same thing for tru3 ..... But i don't like all the hate for tru3 in these comments, if anything they're just proving that dbd is a very toxic game, it even makes scott look bad because he made the video.
@@Mr-xz9qg I mean did you see his response tho? Scott responded to it in a mature and calm manner, but the comment on the video true gave doesn't help his case at all. Hes the one being immature
Guys, are we seriously acting like there’s gonna be actual drama in the DbD community? All Scott is asking for is some civil discussion... which is obviously stupid. What we REALLY need is Otzdarva staring down Tru3, the ring and cage both slick with sweat and blood. Otz is covered in welts and bruises, taken off-guard by the fact that he wasn’t allowed to bring bear traps into a professional match. Meanwhile, Tru3’s tank top is torn, mumbled words like “viable” and “optimal” leaving his torn lips. But... who is that, from down south, with a steel chair?! It’s Zubatlel, running directly into the cage due to his naturally poor eyesight. The steel chair clatters from his hands, only for OhTofu to roar “Wow, he’s a [insert perk here] gamer!” as he shears the cage open. The stench of sweat fills his chest, as he lifts the steel chair from Zubat’s limp hands. “Unlucky,” he murmurs, barely conscious. The match continues, steel chair placing a dent in Otz’s head-and vice versa. Scott makes a sudden appearance, dropping from above like a phantom of an opera, taking out Tru3. Zubat rejoins the fight, and the clash continues with bloodlusted fervor.
That's interesting. He didn't really critique things in my eyes, all he did was point out that the reason Tru3 lost was because he made lots of mistakes. Critiquing one's gameplay usually dives into thought-processing, decision-making, and also how to fix the mistakes going forward. That wasn't done here.
@@LunaticSoldiers Well, actually he called tru3 a Dick and started to shit talk his attitude on the game, taking it more personal that it should, not only just critizicing his gampleay, but his community, his attitude and behaviour
Agreed but you win some you lose some if you’re mad you lose matches doesn’t that make you a sweat 2 if you’re trying hard to kill a weak link that’s problematic to their matches so why should they give 2 fucks about how the killer feels when y’all are admitting to going for weak links lol, that ruins my games because then the killer is in a position to tunnel someone out and win, but when I swf it’s much easier to help your team avoid being tunneled like lol
@@mongooseicy5184 yeah he overhype certain things like he says wraith is like mid-to-low A teir but he's clearly like top of B teir maybe in the middle of B teir I think even said one time that he is above the executioner which is like dead wrong he over hypes and under hypes so many things but don't get me wrong I like him
As a viewer, one of the most off-putting thing about content creators is when they're unwilling to admit their mistakes. Sure the game sometimes robs you, but always blaming your opponents only contributes to more entitlement in the community.
I personnaly try to give streamers some slacks aout those things. Personnaly, i'm the type of dude who is chill 90% of the time, but it happens that something makes me go to 11 in a matter of seconds when i feel robbed by the RNG or bad connection. As an example : two survivors left, one has a key, open the htach and escape as i was winning. I felt disgussed having working so hard against this SWF for him to escape in front of my face. Knowing the last survivor was about to escape too, i just afk my killer and rolled a cigaret waiting for the match to end. As soon as i light it up, i noticed the survivor going from injured to healthy, and then a couple of seconds later i see his head poping. My instinct was to grab the mouse and chase him. But because of my cigaret i couldn't aim for shit and start slightly burning the side of the desk. I missed all my m1 because of it and was extra pissed off against myself as i saw him escape through hatch. In end game chat, one of his team mate congratulate him for the escape. To which i wrongfully replied that i let him go on purpurse (total lie). If i played for 7 hours and someone just clipped that and start ananlysing my gameplay as if this was a regular occurence i probably feel terrible about it.
THIS! Everybody I watch other than small streamers or Otzdarva is just the entitlement level is too high. he recently uploaded a video where the man was straight up FUMING but not once did he say "Nerf SWF" or "That's op".
Imagine wanting to nerf SWF when my friends are probably worse then the self care meg at the edge of the map. I still love my friends tho even if they aren't good at a game
I think you should watch more of tru3 because his stand point on swf was to nerf the high end of players which is very small minority without impacting the new/ “bad” players
@@prophetofink7971 I ain't watching someone i don't enjoy watching, Watched him for like, the first two days of me starting to play(mainly come back to) dbd, quickly found him insufferable cause of his attitude
@@killfill9 okay, whatever you feel about his personality I do agree he can be like watching paint dry but his view on swf isn’t what you think it is. Nerf the higher player base without impacting new players.
@@prophetofink7971 but does he ever actually have a plan for such a thing? Cause think of how feasible that is to put in game when a potato can get rank 1
Ehy, vedo che sei italiano dal tuo nome. Purtroppo si, l'umanità è ridotta a questo schifo. Non esiste bontà online, solo falsi sorrisi. Tutta questa situazione sta accadendo perché Scott sta assumendo cose. Il che è idiotico
This is why I fucking love Scott. He tells it like it is and he’s got solid backing for his opinions. He’s also not full of himself and actually takes responsibility for his mistakes and, unlike tru3’s deceptive “logical” approach, Scott ACTUALLY uses valid proof for his arguments instead of cherry-picking what counts as a valid argument and what’s a logical fallacy based on what benefits his agenda.
I used to watch this guy religiously when I first started out. Once I hit about a thousand hours on killer, I realized how arbitrary a lot of his claims were and I could no longer enjoy him for his attitude and leading others in the game to act like that - which is something we definitely need less of.
Same. I have to admit, I fanboyed a little too hard and that even recently, but realised that whenever I took a deeper look into his claims, some sound blatantly ridiculous. I still don't agree with what happened with True, getting mocked and that absurd "True imitating a disabled person to offend them", but I can't really agree with him either.
I always just disagreed with many of his claims from the get-go, but he’s an infinitely better player than me so I don’t critique much because I’m utter shit
I figured out from 3 videos that Tru3ta1ent was an @hole, he camped a survivor for "butt dancing" - when the reality was that they had just been crouch walking.
I liked the part where you sorta touched on personal responsibility, people dont like to admit when they lose because they misplay (me included). You see it a lot in competitive games and DBD isnt different in this idea. But when you have a platform with many people who share your viewpoints, negative ideas can spread quickly.
I know I’m a bad player, and I honestly don’t really care. 😂 I just try my best to have fun, and learn things to try and get better. And if I’m ever not a ‘pro’, who cares? If I have fun, that’s all that matters.
@@NikkiLove9022 I agree with ya on that. I used to be a toxic little bastard back in the day, whining when I lost as killer or survivor. Now I am just alright with playing against anyone, its a game and if they have fun thats fine by me, sure sometimes I come across the occasional toxic bullysquad though I try not to let them get to me as I know thats what they want.
@@SulphurMind Exactly! I used to tbag and flash click away, but when I started playing killer into red ranks, I understood their pain and felt horrible for an already miserable experience it is to be a high rank killer. Ever since then, I hate toxicity and generally help people when they’re being personally attacked in the chat or DMs. No need to be a douche!
In Rocket League, for example, when you're in a party, it shows a little green symbol next to your name indicating that you're in a party. Maybe DBD could do something like that, I think it'd really help.
i may have missed something but would that even work? like i play in a duo sometimes but what about the other two if they where a duo? would that stack i’m guessing? or would only 20% debuff i’m confused idk if i missed something please let me know
As a console (lol) player, every crybaby entitled killer I’ve seen has very little friends on their friends list, maybe 15-20 max. And every crybaby entitled survivor has the SWF they’re playing with + maybe 10-20 more friends on their friends list. I’m totally not saying anything...its just interesting is all....
@@ExOTiC1234 not having a lot of online friends doesnt mean shit. Some people arent as open or dont care to friend everyone. Same with having hundreds of online friends. Some people just like to fill that list to the brim. I doubt either group is playing with everyone from the list, though. Though, if its straight up just 1.5 friends on their list, then maybe.
TK_the_Onion Obviously the amount of PSN friends you have doesn’t mean anything its just funny how its true without fail everytime and isnt even exclusive to killers.
I would be more interested in hearing about this "ping" system that you only briefly mentioned as a potential buff for solo queue.. Would it be something akin to how maps can place god beams? Or more of a ping like in Rainbow Six Siege where you aim at something and it shows everyone on your team exactly what it is you pinged?
maybe it just be a general concept. "objective" ping (gen totem etc) "killer" ping (hook, beartrap etc) "defense" ping (window pallet etc) but not specifics. (as well as a way to mute someone so they cant spam ping)
From my experience watching tru he’s just one of those killer isn’t good types. Dbd is a game and it’s ok to lose once in a while. I’ve played killer a lot and I’ve played against all rank 1 swf teams and sometimes you’ll beat them sometimes you won’t but don’t cry and say the whole game is out of balance. If killer wins completely every time that would be unbalanced.
@@pobster88j94 exactly. He really thinks he’s put so many hours in the game that, he is peak performance in Dbd and that it’s no possible way that a team of people could actually play the game better than him. It’s just unbalanced lol no way others are good too
Yeah except DBD IS NOT balanced and is heavily survivor sided, but sure surv mains, live in your delusions, keep flash clicking and T-bagging and don't forget an obligatory NOED OP whine 😂
"You lost because you were playing Plague" This is the core issue with dead by daylight right now. There should be more than two or three viable killers at high ranks
He didn't say he lost because he was playing Plauge. He lost because the survivors were really good, on a rough map AND he was playing a mid-tier killer. Against most teams you play against you can 4k with Plauge quite easily if you're good enough and that goes for 70% of the killers.
That’s true man but remember that all online games always have a “top tier” killer/weapon/perks ecc. I really think that the worst thing about the game are spawns and some maps. I play mostly surv but i play a lot of killer too and sometimes you start a match as surv and you all are split up. By the time the killer downs someone you already have 3 gens at 60/70%
@@mongooseicy5184 this !! not every killer is gonna be top tier but every killer should have a basis of a strength i’d say perfect balance for a killer would be oni or blight high risk high reward while fun to play and fun to play against while also being strong with clear weaknesses
As a new-ish player, I appreciated this a lot. I honestly can't yet tell when a streamer is making mistakes or not because all y'all are wayyyyyy better than me. So I sort of took tru3's complaints about swfs at face value. I heard rebuttals, of course, but none were very convincing. It was all a lot of he-said/he-said stuff and I (mistakenly) gave tru3 the benefit of the doubt because... honestly I have no idea why. Anchoring bias, probably. So thanks. You have a habit of making compelling arguments and changing my mind about things in this game - keep it up!
Otz / scott / zubat are the more positive humble constructive criticism guys, tru3 has a lot of valid points but he is TOO focused on the negative aspects of the game to the point where he blows them out of proportion to a cartoonish level (any great play, it's SWF) he has an issue with wanting to prove he is the best or something so he desperately shields himself from criticism when it's perfectly valid, they are ALL equally skilled although to me Otz has best game knowledge / Scott has the best vision for the game / and Zubat and Tru3 are elite mechanically at their best. The whole issue with Tru3 is just his mindset really, as a player you can learn a lot from him ALTHOUGH I believe he has regressed as a player due to his mentality. Good luck learning about the game it can be a crazy learning curve lots of info.
@Scott Jund I think the biggest help for solo survivor is what Dowsey said and change the tome. Killer tome are centered around primary objectives like hook 12 survivors, break x amount of pallets etc, things a killer does in the game. Most survivor tomes are centered around secondary objectives like open chests, cleanse totems etc. So u basically get 4 solo survivors sabotaging hooks, opening chests, cleansing totems. With swf they can coordinate better so u have 1 survivor maybe doing a tome like the glyphs, 2 doing gens and one looping. I think if the tomes were centered around primary objectives you'd see better solo play.
As an expert in making videos that rub people the wrong way, rather than making the video first assuming he wouldn't debate you, wouldn't it have been better to contact him and see first? Making the video before checking his actual response sounds like something I would do. Not you. Depending on the reception and response from Tru3, this is going to stir the community up unnecessarily. As a personal touch, I would have included a clip of his actual statement. So everyone is on the same page for your discussion.
We've already been discussing this on Twitter. He doesnt want to do a live debate according to what he said on his stream so this is the next best thing I can do.
@Space Coconut is right, I feel like Scott should have contacted true first. I am watching True talent now and he’s saying Scott was cherry picking his words. It is kinda bad when you don’t include the whole conversation true actual said. I feel like this is going to stir the pot for no reason.
Thank fuck someone who's actually got a large voice in the community has said this. I had to stop watching Tru3 because literally EVERY time I saw him start losing, the first thing he'd say "must be swf."
It's genuinely so lame. I love watching killer games because they're exciting but it's either a boring ass kicking or it's the streamer constantly complaining that's survivor op killer bad and whining and it gets so fucking tiring I genuinely can't. I feel like killer mains often don't acknowledge their own bias
I don't even think that's accurate, scott is clearly way more chill about the game and he's just as good - he admits when he's wrong, more humble basically and open to debate. Tru3 on the other hand takes the game so seriously it makes me mentally exhausted, and comes across as condescending most of the time.
@@thephantomjle43 nonononono, we ain't waging a "my mistr strimmr is bettr and heres fiddy reasons why" war here We are going to talk about brick walls.
I propose more bloodpoints for being vs survive with friends like 10% more per. Edit:To clarify I know killers already get bloodpoints easier but against sfw you are inherently are having a harder game and should be rewarded for doing good. That isn't to say I think survivors shouldn't also get more bloodpoints just in general I think they should. The games grind is sorta insane at this point there is 179 perks currently. Of which 75% are mostly hot garbage there to fill up space the same as sprays are in overwatch.
Thatd be sweet. Itd be nice to have that indication at the end saying "these guys were duo, this was solo queue, and Quentin was quentin" and getting a little bp bonus at the end.
Killers get enough bp for more fun activities imo. For survivors is basically do a gen and hit your skillchecks for points, or get tunneled out early and end up with sub 10k bp. Never had a sub 10k killer game.
Hey Scott. I have a question. Aside from the SWF’s, do you think that generator speeds are too fast? I feel like if gen speed was slower overall in the game, for solo and SWF, it would be a lot more fun because it would slow the game down.
I haven't watched Tru3 in awhile, but I just remember watching through the whole "Wraith and Ghostface are the second and third best killers" and if you disagreed then you were "not on the same level of thinking as me" so I think I already know how this is all going to end. This entire viewpoint is only thinking about those extremely rare instances where there's that 1% unbeatable sweaty team among the 99% group of friends who are decent at the game at the very least. Punishing people who just want to have fun with friends is how you kill this game completely. This just has no empathy.
I don't recall Tru3 ever putting either of them above Nurse or Spirit though, he's been pretty consistent about those 2 being the top killers for a long, long time now.
@@equalopportunity2048 Back when he "invented" the Sloppy/Nurse combo and playstyle, he hyped both of those killers up to be 2nd and 3rd best. I don't even remember when this was, I think right after Demo got released. He eventually stopped, most likely because he became a meme in the community.
@@forever_nocturne4146 He flat out said 2nd and 3rd best numerous times. I remember it clearly because reddit and every big discord server laughed about it. Thinking old Wraith was above Spirit and Freddy is just silly.
This is exactly why I stopped watching him. He used to be my fav dbd streamer but his attitude of "I don't make mistakes" is just annoying, also he is not that great for someone with 6k hours :/
Again, hating him for speaking facts. Doesnt make sense, swf is imbalance, facts. His is good at the game so let him say it, which is also a fact. It's better than those steamers like jrm or sweh who just love to focus in and out of their screen when they play DBD
@@ariz.k9901 who is hating him? Lol He is good, he is not the best, he is not great for someone who has 6k hours. I don't know why bringing sweh or JRM is relevant lol.
@@alejandromartinezramirez4841 Yeah but look at the amount of hate comments on his video about tru3 which doesnt even speak about the game. What you mean he isnt the best? He is few of the streamers are the best of both sides. Give sweh or jrm to play killer, man will shit himself. Those people only play one side and everyone start thinking they are the best
Yeah I see Otz who has done amazing things with shit tier killers no one wants to touch with a 10 foot pole like trapper or clown, and despite his legendary achievements he’s always humble, he always points out his own mistakes so he and his viewers can learn better, he’s always nice and polite even when encountering rude players, overall an awesome guy with no ego despite his obvious skill. Then you have true who is basically the opposite, always talking shit, always deflecting blame on his mistakes, always implying that he’s basically better than anyone else out there and going up against the most absolutely god like opponents, and more annoyingly, always down playing and shitting on the skills and achievements of others. Then when people call him out he and his dumb ass fans double down in a rage explaining to everyone how unfair everyone is to poor little streamer true. Like this asshole above me lol
I do think there's a fault in saying "10% longer gen times = 10% longer matches". Think about pop, ruin etc. and their impact when you stop a gen right before it gets finished.
@@Youre-absolutely-right when those types of matchs happen, i'm usually losing because of bad lucky with spawns, my first chase took way to long or i took to long to find the first survivor, if that is not happening and im being able to apply some preassure those 10s would hardly matter and at least a 2k would happen
Think about popping a gen in under a minute within a match. Think about prove thy self. Think about the game ending too quickly. Stop being survivor selfish.
I stopped watching Tru3 because absolutely everything was “I’m a good killer look at me” or “Fucking Dead Hard/Borrowed Time/DS/SWF” and literally nothing was him, which seems to be the mindset behind all his arguments and suggested changes
This, I used to be subscribed to him and he started out good, but eventually he just became like : "I am so good, and everything I say is right and should be listened to for the good of the game"
Even though you have no malintent behind what you’re saying in this video, some how I can tell it’s going to be taken the wrong way by either him or his community 🤷🏻♂️
@Reconing Gamer That's the thing, he really isn't towards anyone in particular except that one person who must never be named again. While I don't agree with everything tru3 says, there really is just a hate boner against the guy amongst a lot of communities. It's silly.
Literally every community has that 5% of individuals who will go on a crusade because their favorite mister streamer's opinion isnt shared by another person.
If they slowed generator progression for being in a swf, would that only apply for a 4 man? Or would 3 people cause it, in which case pour one out for the 4th who has slowed gens and still no communication. Also, I often queue with someone who really is the Claudette with urban and self care. They are the potato teammate you hope you don't get, but I do it because he is a friend. Its already hard enough to survive with him now. Tru3's fix would have a fair bit of collateral damage.
@@Haddley333 No. True is only respectful to other well known streamers. Otherwise he'll bich and moan then say "I have over 4000 hours! See my power levels.
@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 This isn't the first time. A while back people posted a clip of true getting a 1K with billy on the forums using it as a way of showing the game was broken. But.. all he did was hook 1 dude and patrol basement and the survivors played smart and escape. I remember Scott outright calling it out in the thread and people getting pissy at him.
@@Thatitchyguy i feel like huge streamers try to brainwash their viewers at times just like he kept saying Spireh had counterplay 🤡 she doesn't its either she sucks or has a good headset
@@tuggerjaegger2886 yea like 2 people always right next to you when you're in a chase so they can flashy flashy or try to sabo hook or some bogus that doesn't even work
yeah lol usually when i notice a team doing obvious swf stuff like that, i pretend to be worse at killer than i am and when they get too cocky bc of it it's way easier to quickly down them all and turn a 0 or 1k into a 4k
@@zKatari ? Get better friends ? When I get invited by rank 1 friends they bodyblock, sabo, flashlight, clickbait killers, makes game way easier for me even though the killer will be higher skill for me.
There is a video where he play Oni only M1 (he had the Power) and he says sfw genrush ecc.. what the hell ? If you dont active the power how can you win ?
He unfortunately had the same mindset and attitude in For Honor, anything he didn't like was op and not the fact that he just wasn't good at the game, I know that FH obviously had alot of bad things back then but still, was a meme for a reason 🤷♂️
Tru3's an alright dude but he does whine like a bitch when shit isn't going his way. Then refuses to admit he's mad and tells everyone calling him out that they're mad, they're just projecting. It's pretty silly. I still watch his streams every now again though.
Otz: "If you look at yourself and the mistakes you make while playing, you will improve." Tru3: "fokkin swf man, fokkin ded ard man, don't critique me tho you're creating a false narrative :("
Honest question - in an asymmetric pvp game like DBD, shouldn’t a high performing team win against the solo player? It seems like that is the point of the game. A group of people working in harmony is more powerful than individual effort.
Not necessarily. Its asymmetrical because the killer is supposed to be morr powerful, which we all know isn't true at all. Also the killer doesn't get the option to play with other people so kinda shouldn't get the advantage just for clicking play survivor with 4 other people.
I wish more people understood it's okay to say "I played like shit that game." realise you're not going to (or supposed to) win every match and move on to the next one. Ez.
If you win every single match it would get boring and when u do finally lose you'd complain , im sort of guilty because i feel if i don't win then the survivors will harass me i have anxiety anyway so its even harder
I play trickster all day long and if I lose I blame myself bc even with the most trash killer you can still win unless rng in the match isnt on your side Ive has survivors spawn on top of gen when I fucking have corrupt so it the game fault sometime on why I lose but I dont even care anymore lol
@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 trickster is fun but he also just bullshit lol throwing so many knifes over loops and you can’t do anything sucks but regardless trickster over spirit anydayb
@@Jack.Martson yeah fuck spirit lol i play alot of killer but i refuse to play her, i might soon if im having a bad day but otherwise id prefer my insidious noed Bubba got a 4k against a 3 man swf
That’s the thing that tru almost always has wrong from what I’ve seen. The moment he goes against decent survivors suddenly they’re a SWF and they’re op. He rarely even admits his own mistakes and just complains about SWF instead of looking inward.
Yep, its unfortunately why I stopped watching him. Like he's a good player, good content creator, entertaining, amazing guy but his mentality when he loses is just shit.
If you buff solos up to swf, you'd probably need to give killers info on perks and add on that survs were running with the amount of info you'd have to give solos to boost them to swf level? right?
@@Tk-sh3bf Fair enough. I dont like tru3 that much due to this attitude but man these comments are bashing on him on such little things like his name lmao its crazy
Everyone should have an ego first of all it's about controlling your ego. Second of all I used to call myself ShadowStalker2232. Online username really isn't that deep
Ya I think map design is a bigger problem like certain loops, totem spawns especially. For me it’s just frustrating that I can lose the entire game by making 2 - 4 mistakes where survivors can make way more and still all live.
This video is pretty much why i haven’t watched tru3 so much for the past couple years. I used to watch him a tonne when i was first getting into the game but now if i watch too much, his mental state with the game starts affecting mine and i enjoy it less
Well, he should recognize killers can make games very unfun for survivors as well. Both sides have equal means to make the game unfun for the other, and, once the misery circle jerk is in full stride, there is no stopping the salt that spews out.
@@tk_the_onion I could literally play perkless addonless , old freddy and people would STILL not have fun. What I have learned "If you are better than me, shit ain't fun" not just this game but I see that mentality in literally just about every multiplayer game.
I think Tru3's biggest problem is he is very arrogant. I like the guy, I frequently watch his stream and his RUclips clips. He's a fun guy to watch because he knows his shit but like I said, he's very arrogant. He likes to preface his statements frequently with 'I have knowledge/experience, I know what I'm talking about' etc. And if you disagree with him he will challenge you almost immediately. I remember a game I watched of him recently where he fucked up and got downed by a Nurse very early in the game and immediately made excuses that 'It's like round 1 of a fighting game, first down doesn't mean anything', basically devaluing the Nurse's down and when he started doing better against her later he claimed that backed up his prior statement. Tru3 is competitive and doesn't like to lose which goes hand and hand with his arrogance. It's why his debate video with Otz, while entertaining and fun didn't really go anywhere because he never really had any intention of coming around to his point of view because he thinks he is always right. Again, like the guy a lot but, I aknowledge he isn't perfect.
i'll throw my 2 cents in. I really think what they should change other than the obvious some map design and layouts is the starting points of survivors why not have a "exit gate" in which all 4 survivors exit out of the same spot and on the other side the killer does as well. Giving the feeling of the entity releasing the 2 groups into the battle field it would make a big difference of spawning on totems or 3 groups of survivors starting on different gens and just hitting them so hard before you get your first hook.
Honestly, his chat is way more aggravating. This was especially apparent when he was watching the anniversary stream. I'm not even kidding, when they were going over clips from Fog Whisperers, someone legit said "this is why I hate this community. Tru3 seems like he's the only mature individual", when there were clips of people laughing, yelling, and overall just having fun with the game. Like damn, it's just a video game man, let people have fun
@@VFG204 I criticized his Spirit once and his Chat proceeded to call me an Entitled Survivor main, someone called me an Ableist slur and then got muted for "picking fights" lol
In my opinion not all swf’s are automatically op I play with 3 of my friends sometimes and to put it bluntly they are bad at looping they will last like 10 seconds in a chase each chase I’m the only decent looper in the swf yes we have comms but 3 bad loopers and one decent one with comms won’t do much when I’m downed
same here. whenever i play with my group of friends, i'm the only decent one and i generally throw (body blocking, free hits, drawing aggro when on deathhook) so they don't get continuously hooked.
im just gonna quote a comment i made on someone else 'i dont think it should effect casuals at all. when you believe a team is a swf you start playing on the idea that they are communicating. if you guys are or arent it doesnt make a difference because all that means to the killer is they expect you to bare minimum say where killer is/is going.'
Exactly. I'm Brazilian and play with 3 west coast americans in SWF and discord. I happen to be the better looper for more experience but they are learning quickly and will probably get better than me soon also that 200 ping and getting hit across killer shack some times :(
Tbf, not all swfs want to sweat every god-damn game. I like to mess around with my friends, literally throwing the game off. We do not give callouts like "killer at twelve o'clock etc".
i wanna hear ur opinion on this idea sure its not thought out fully because well im not a dev have data n all that but what if they made it so survivors start with for example a repairpenalty down to for example 70 precent speed wich goes away after maybe 2 minutes that would give the killer abit more time early game and survivors would have more of a reason to go for side objectives like totems n such
I suggest changing the 1v4 format into a 4v1 format. This change gives killers a fairer chance in defeating a survivor. No longer shall there be games in which a killer can be looped for 5 gens. Problem solved, Scott.
One thing I always thought would be fun for both sides and encourage people to also play together (one of the biggest things that keeps a game alive is community), would be adding challenges for SWF to do that would make the game more challenging and rewarding, such as additional objectives on the map that require more coordination (maybe optional?), such as buttons that have to be pressed at the same time to open a door that has a chest with bloodpoints, auric cells, good items, offerings, etc. Maybe even have some type of "curses" SWF would randomly have generated to make the game more difficult, but get some kind of multiplier based on the curse. The more players grouped up, the more rewards like this would become available, and maybe have something that whatever the survivors leave on the map, the killer gets instead. I think it would be something easy to implement, and would diversify the gameplay without discouraging groups, and rewarding both survivors and killers based on the difficulty of the experience. Idk, just sort of an idea that probably will never happen. It's fun to think about stuff like that though. I think the main take away though is that people shouldn't be punished for playing with their friends (I almost exclusively play killer and solo quo survivor if that means anything here).
I think you’re totally right Scott, except it’s a bit more complicated than just saying a 10 minute game would be an 11 minute game if you slowed gens by 10%. Sometimes that 8 extra seconds per gen could mean you make it there in time to pop it or just push someone off of it and let ruin regress it a bit. Now you’re adding more time to make up for that regression.
Scott's message for the second game is exactly what I've said about SWF for as long as people have been complaining about it: SWF doesn't make people good, it just makes them coordinated. Bad survivors are still going to be bad, regardless of whether they're on comms or not. The only thing that makes SWF really strong is honestly the fact that it means you're guaranteed 3 competent teammates.
Really? They telling each other where the killer is, is not an advantage? Telling each other where totems are, is not an advantage? Telling each other perks and add-ons the killer have, is not and advantage? Telling each other where are traps, is not an advantage? Telling each other what gen is about to complete, not an advantage? Telling each other if the killer is near the hook, no? Telling each other what perks they're about to use? Telling each other what gate is free to open? No that's not strong at all...
@@Junboex3 what mark? He's saying the only thing that makes survivors strong is removing the chance to play with a random player. You think it would be the same thing if they make a swf, but without comms?
One of the advantages that you either avoided or didn't think of is comms would give you easy knowledge of where the killer is at all times if near a survivor.
Straightforward analysis. I stopped watching True because of these rants and he started talking about logical people not being logical. His person just doesn’t make sense.
Tru3 is very good at making people look like an idiot even if he is being the idiot or stubborn one in the situation. He has a calm, concise manner of speaking that I think makes him appear smarter than he actually is. It's like when he starts throwing words like 'Knowledge' and 'logical' around left and right. Love Tru3 but don't disagree with the man or he will take time out of his stream to spend 5 to 10 minutes challenging you.
@@fart895 “The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence.”
@@1hajimata Maybe a little of that but it definitely comes down to arrogance compounded by an audience that almost universally agrees with him. That's nothing exclusive to Tru3 though, literally every streamer on the planet with an audience is mostly spitting opinions to an echo chamber.
@@fart895 Yeah I agree totally. I still sometimes watch tru3 cause he is no doubt very good at the game. But it’s very annoying these days because all he does is blame his own faults on SWF or poor game design. I’ve also noticed that if you don’t agree with his opinion you’re just plain wrong. You’re a part of the “narrative” as he likes to say.
I’ll be honest, I find true to be an incredibly ego-driven person. Everything that radiates from him just screams “I wanna be #1” and it’s gross. He’s got a really bad attitude and it just seems like he wants to win 24/7 rather than just playing some good games. I just don’t like that he’s so quick to blame outside forces while he sits in his own self righteousness and narcissism. You pointed out some really great things here Scott, it was all very informative and very insightful. I would only hope he doesn’t take it in the worst way possible, or take the valid criticisms to heart.
@@Upsetkiller456 Yeah and normal people don't behave like either of those extremes, so your comment is 100% irrelevant, not to mention that's your own bias. What the OP said is 100% true. Bring in a clinical psychologist and I would guarantee that Tru3 would be diagnosed as mildly narcissistic at the very least. He never, EVER accounts for his own mistakes.
@@Upsetkiller456 And I would know, I first tuned into his steams in 2017, stopped watching because of the very same reasons the OP said. Not even my opinion, it's an observable fact, as Scott indicated here in the video.
@@louiss2595 I never said I didn't agree bub, I've had numerous games of his that I watched and saw a plethora of mistakes yet he shoveled it off however: I'm not just going to start attacking his character when in all reality, he hasn't done anything bad.
What if we block killers like huntress from getting inside maps It goes for all killers block them from maps that are bad for them and always favour maps that are good for them But If surviver uses map offering they Can go on other maps that dissfavour But killer Can also use maps that favour them and killer have higher favour
I agree with the sentiment of have a debuff on survive with friends, however it should be to an extent where its almost unnoticeable at all. Like for every person in a survive with friends, generator repair speed is hindered by 2% (ex: 2 SWF is 4%, 3 is 6%, and 4 is 8%) Now you could do that, or nerf the repair speed for multiple survivors in a SWF when repairing a generator together, but I don’t think it should be out of the question entirely
@@Insanity-vv9nn and btw he does that to get rid of god pallets, because strong survivors are usually greedy and don't drop pallets unless it's obvious that you don't respect them..... easy as that.
@@Mr-xz9qg I like to respect once to make survivors think I'm afraid of pallets, I sometimes get cheeky hits I otherwise wouldn't get if survivors dropped every pallet
@@Mr-xz9qg If you bait it and they don't drop, you lose a literally meaningless amount of time after realizing they won't fall for it. THEN you let yourself get stunned. Obviously if they do fall for it you just gave yourself an advantage. Not really a reason to put yourself in harm's way when there's a better alternative.
they should buff the solo queue by allowing you to see the perks of every other survivor and set a status whether you were gonna do a gen, rescue a survivor or just clear status entirely, it can at least provide with some form of communication instead of being in the dark without wasting perk slots
I used to hear so much hate about SWF that I figured it was true, but with play time I got better and just abandoned chases I felt I couldn't win (unless I went in for practise) and only fear a godsurvivor these days. Thanks for making a video like this to spread this message.
This video actually made me feel really anxious at parts, because I've been on the giving end of feedback when it comes to Tru3 back in For Honor and I really, really hope this can all go over constructively, peacefully and not at all like my experience. Much love and I think this *could* be a really interesting conversation and debate~
@@Andreslashfully I spoke up about him back then, about how his toxic lashing out and belittling of people who outplay him is a terrible mindset. The reason I went from a fan to a critic of his was due to an event that happened back during the first month or so of For Honor there were many tournaments. Tru3 went in as raider if I remember and got beat by my friend playing peacekeeper. I was watching him at the time since I was excited to see a streamer I enjoyed fighting a friend of mine. Tru3 quickly ended his stream with positivity and all that after losing and jumped into the stream's twitch chat. His tone completely changed, went on and on about how certain unbalanced characters should be banned so not "every unskilled half-wit can get an easy win" if I remember the comments exactly. My friend trained and put effort in for the tournament and of course Tru3 couldn't let that stand, had to do what he has since his days in Mortal Kombat; chalk it up to factors that don't involve him losing fairly. I don't even speak openly negative about him anymore, apart from when these videos were fresh, because the same thing was happening with his lack of taking responsibilities for his shortcomings and it was relevant. I just ignore his existance mainly but it still hurt at the time, especially since he themed his streams as a "no negativity" zone during that era.
@@SocknGamers Thanks for answering, I imagined it was something like that.. I follow him since the MK days, but I didn't follow the scene too much when for honor came around, I watched him few times playing the game but I was unaware of the drama back in the day. Nowadays he does the same thing with DBD, its an unbalanced game but he takes the excuses too far a lot of times. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, but he is quite narcissist and very stubborn, doesn't handle criticism well at all, so I stopped watching his content lately. Anyways, have a nice day m8
This is one of my favorite things about watching Scott, listening to a logical, analytical debate topics. It's hard to find people like that these days sometimes, so thanks for the great content.
First game was a duo 2nd was a 4 man both were swf. 1st game was a bad game with nurse with no addons for sure. But they were better then average, average survivors don't dead hard a nurse point blank or even attempt misdirection. Swf isn't just the coms it's joining 4 strong together. That 4 man got together through it, a lot of the time dbd is balanced by having 1 or 2 weak links. Buffing solo to swf I don't see as possible and addressing swf would be fast. Lastly where were these variables you got saying exactly x seconds? I don't know what the debuff would be. You seemed so certain on these imaginary times. You'll get loads of props because your defending swf, but we all know it creates a platform to hugely balance the game. I'm just trying to figure out ways to balance it more. Maybe I'll do a video response, I just don't get why talking about a rebalance of swf is so taboo.
Exactly the bigest thing about swf is that there is no urban selfcaring claudets in the group
Are you familiar with the thought experiment, ‘The Ship of Theseus?’ in the field of identity metaphysics?
I thought not. It’s not a story Hayward would tell you. It’s a thought experiment. The "Ship of Theseus" was the ship of Theseus, so powerful and so wise it could use its 30 oars to influence the water to make way… It had such a buoyancy that it could even keep the ones it cared about from dying. The art of sailing and floating is a pathway to many destinations some consider to be unnatural. It became so powerful… the only thing the ship was afraid of was decaying and being replaced, which eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, its planks of wood rotted over time, and then they were replaced with new planks. Ironic. The ship could keep others from death, but not itself.
Tru3, All I saw from your tweets, honestly, was just suggesting balance changes. I didn't get anything like "swf is scum of the earth" or "swf needs to be punished!!" Or similar levels of what some people are saying....
I don't think it's fair to put words in Tru3's mouth or to overrexgerate the situation. Both very respectable content creators I enjoy very much.
I'd be interested in a video response / live debate as I respect both you and Scott greatly. My only advice to both parties would be to actively make an effort to take nothing personally in order to stick to objective discussion. I'm sure neither side would say anything with the intent to cause offense, just keep that in mind! Much love.
the reason for it being 'taboo' is because you could essentially be punishing a group of friends for wanting to play together. i dont see any ingame debuffs being fair for a swf. not to mention its not impossible for 4 solos to all be good which would make a psuedo '4 man high skill cap' - the communication
If only Killers could play with their friends. It's a lonely existence.
2v8 when
B-But...kyf......
Technically Charlotte and Victor are always playing swf since It's a 2v4.
ok hear me out... event where 4 players play as each member of the legion
16 survivors
only mother's dwelling (or Ormond but it might be too small)
perfection
10v40 when
Scott: The reason you lost this match is-
Me: oooh how is Scott going to phrase this diplomatically
Scott: you played like shit
ikr....lmaooo
exactly my reaction he just said it like that
I mean- I have 3700 Hours in DBD. And can admit that most of the time when I lose, it's because I'm shit. Even if I'm whiney at myself- At least I can say, "Wow. And they all get away because I'm fucking dogwater. T^ T" Waiting to hear that from Tru, and I've heard it from Scott a ton.
@@raingerdiesalot Yup! Agreed. Its good to analyze yourself, Im the same way, and instead of bitching i use it,and LEARN and realize mistakes rather than pointing at the other side and going, this is OP, thats b.s. etc. Like anything in life, you learn from mistakes, watching others, especially those that are more experienced and by just "doing" it.
Getting better at anything can feel demoralizing, especially when other people are involved in ur progression, but at the end of the day, once you start seeing improvement its VERY rewarding.
Its also a game, and were human we make mistakes... theres good days and bad days lol. Welcome to life everyone 🤣
Because he played like shit in those two games ?
When you pointed out how many mistakes he made as he proceeded to blink into a wall less than a minute later
I got to admit. I did giggle when Scott Jund stated tru was only going against a duo and one of them had only been playing for 3 months.
Tbh it is easy to create an alt account and get into red ranks quickly though. I doubt the guy has actually only played for 3 months
i wasnt surprised tbh. i watch him occasionaly and he will very quickly say off of like one chase something like "this survivor is high caliber i can tell" when the chase just started or went on for 20 seconds. i think he overestimates his opponents so he can feel better when he bests them. even if they werent really that great
@@jerometaylor2618 the problem is that red ranks are so easy to get into to begin with. It should just be harder or they need to remove ranks or make ranks actually mean something.
@@CityPopHorror I agree for sure, all I'm saying is looking at a profile that's says they've only been playing for 2 months doesn't necessarily mean that's the truth
@cat streams same lol i go against him when he was off stream he tunnel every1 and the survivor where rank 17 and didnt know how to Play the game 🙄
People shouldn’t be bashing Scott or true it’s literally just opinions on how the game should be changed and has no serious stakes, just a point of discussion.
Thank you, Black Yoda.
@@pegeta Are you saying Scott looks like he's on drugs?
@@pegeta have you ever done drugs? i dont drop a tab of acid and think "oh i should make a video about dead by daylight"
@@Green_Meanie1159 well he kinda looks like uh damn it whats his name its a rapper i think give me a few minutes if i remember the name ill edit this
@@antichrist7608 apparently that's what drugs do.
“This isn’t a high caliber swf you just played like shit”
Any swf on comms can be high caliber though. Even at yellow ranks. 16 perks across 4 survivors in a team on comms against 4 perks for 1 killer on his own. Does that sound fair? I play both sides equally btw so I’m not an entitled killer or survivor “main”. Out of interest do you watch many tournaments? Notice anything in them? Imagine watching a tourney where survivors have 4 perk slots each and don’t lose 🤦🏼♂️
@@JonnaJonesOG lets give the killer 16 perks then
"any swf on coms can be high caliber even at yellow rank" LOL omg mate that's a good one, man's got jokes
@@JonnaJonesOG Tournaments are never a great example of how good or bad SWF can be. Simply put, there are rules in place in tournaments that make it harder for at least one side, and usually it's for killers. One great example is rarity of items/addons. Many tournaments will ban Very Rare and Ultra Rare addons, which tend to be strong addons for killers. Yes, the three most powerful tournament killers (Spirit, Nurse, Hag) don't need those rarity of items, but you also rarely see those killers in tournaments in which survivors live more often, because the killers tend to get banned as well.
That quote can be used to describe the majority of complaint posts about SWF on reddit or the forums. People think any type of coordination is SWF. And majority of SWF players are just friends having fun and talking about random nonsense as they play. Yes they'll do callouts like "Oh its wraith and hes on me." but people think all SWF groups are these sweatlords.
I'm a survivor main and I usually get killed by SWF groups when I do play killer. As long as they aren't toxic about it this doesn't bother me at all. The only way to improve at anything is to practice against people better than you. With that in mind I welcome the challenge of facing the most difficult squads because it's only going to help me learn how to be a better killer.
Yea dude good mind set
Reasons I lost a match:
Lmao I'm shit
I got the swamp map and my ps4 had a stroke
PS4 sounded like a jet taking off drowning out the survivors pain sounds
I hate the swamp no matter if I'm killer or survivor.
lmao that used to be Ormond for me
Oh god, this is giving me flashbacks from playing Blight on PS4. Slides off everything, and goes to one frame every time I rush. It hurts me.
Your PS4 doesn’t have a stroke on Yamaoka’s??? Just the swamp??? Jealous
Scott is making some great discussion points and arguments while everyone keeps talking about how they can’t stand tru anymore. I think we should discuss Scott’s subject material more than everyone’s personal feelings about tru before this video turns into a hate parade which isn’t the intention.
i think its because there isnt much to say about it. Scott is pretty much right. i cannot see any downside to just telling the killer swf members. but the video whether intentionaly or not shows/highlights tru3s ego problem where he is always right and the opposer is OP
tru3 bad
@@maddog130 well some might dodge a lobby when they see a 4 man beforehand. So there are some downsides to it as well
@The Leshy yea he streams 6 hours and losses like 10 times and complains and wines everytime he loses and forgets the other 100 times he won easily I think he needs a chill pill
@The Leshy This is correct.
True likes to complain a lot sadly.
I remember him playing against a pig with ruin. All game long he was looking for ruin, barely doing any gens while moaning about his 'bad team' not doing any gens. He has zero self awareness and a big ego.
It's a shame because I like to watch him play.
he's always been this way, sadly. years ago he was the guy who uploaded garbage dark souls ii pvp builds and got pissed when people criticized them, then sent hatemail when they smacked him around at the actual pvp. years later i discover he's part of the community for yet another game i play heavily and i just sort of groaned.
Agreed, the ego is why I stopped watching. Refusing to accept any criticism and even telling people to f* off for not agreeing with him was too much.
@@boogiedaddy3434 I mean everyone have their own way of thinking not making him have a big ego lol cause let’s not lie everyone who play dbd have a big ego
@@djfox3cove589 not Otz, not zubat, not Tofu , not noob 3
@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 noob3 disappear for 1 year so hard to respond otz is just a handsome man and I don’t know the other one and tofu well mostly do random build but believe me 85 of the player have the biggest ego
Tru3's attitude has definitely changed over the years. I feel like he started getting angrier at the game a couple years ago for whatever reason that may be and I feel has started to fuel this kind of attitude he now has. I dont think its his fault directly. Your mental state has a huge impact on your attitude and gameplay. I hope he's doing OK as the first dbd content creator I got into.
I agree and I also don’t blame him. This game ruins you over time because of the dynamic it has.
The devs should at least let the killer know who was SWF during the endgame screen. If I knew I lost to a 4 or 3 man SWF at the end of the match, I wouldn't feel so bad for getting destroyed.
It would give people even more excuse to complain about swf when they "lose" >.
I would like this as well so the killer knows I wasn't swf (forever soloq 😅). Many times the killer would blame "swf" for a loss and it would be nice for them to see that not every game is swf.
@@RoxE22 fr, only time i know its a SWF is when they have the same names and they're extremely cordinated and do everything at perfect timing, other than that, there is no way to tell.
It would just further propel the narrative that 'swf op' when in reality 90% of the time you could have still won if you just played better.
honestly id prefer they tell you before hand. you get an inherent advantage with comms sometimes, so the killer should be able to get a small advantage by knowing to expect coordination at the very least.
I’m sure this will be very healthy for the community and everyone will take it exactly as Scott intended.
Nothing could possibly go wrong.
🤣
The hardcore killer and survivor mains alike are some of the kindest and most understanding people. Despite never having played the other side, they have adequate experience to criticise imbalance. It's truly amazing
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@@justmob9917 exactly, i told my friend that and he responded by saying dbd is "toxic" and most arguments were "one sided" no idea what he was talking about
I think it would be fair if it just told the killer who was playing in a party.
That way he knows exactly how hard he has to go.
The B-side for that is bad killers who can't go hard ducking SWFs but SWFs mostly know Queues are long.
He's only going to skip hard.
But Scott literally said it doesn't say how hard you have to go I thought, since in his words most SWF's play for fun, where do you make the difference?
Some swf's are shit though. This only applies to TOP TIER players. Not for the majority of us plebs!
@@nomastomas002 yes Scott said before “this game at absolute peak skill level is survivor sided” and swf only expands on this.
But even in swf not all of them are playing at the highest level.
Usually when I draw a swf it consists of one person that knows how to loop and is literally carrying his team who only know how to push gens optimally.
But that’s the problem the killer is only able to capitalize by killing off the weak links.
Playing against survivors that simply don’t make these mistakes the killer can’t gain any momentum.
A chain with no weak links doesn’t break.
The two things about Tru3 that made me stop watching him altogether is that I honestly believe he brings up controversial topics to create drama in the community which in turn gives him more attention and views, and that he is very arrogant to the point where he believes people who disagree with him simply cannot handle the "truth".
Maybe I am being too judgemental of him, in which case I apologize, but he just consistently does this over and over.
You’re so right!! Combined with his constant hypocritical statements, it had become more and more stressful to watch him.
But honestly in his defense, if I would play killer for as long as he has, almost every day for years in this community, I guess everyone would shift into a more negative person over time… 👀
I agree. He has a huge ego and is just a huge asshole to everyone he plays with. He stirs the pot just to get relevance.
@@shamblestheclown ur a clown
What? Someone who calls themselves "true talent" has an ego problem? Noooooe
@@caseyaulbach7693 Holy fucking shit I literally said the exact same thing almost word for word before opening the replies to the comment and seeing yours!
Truetalent plays like he had "play with your food" and everyone is the obsession
The point is Swf is broken and causes imbalance to the game
@@ariz.k9901 yeah but the point is that when he's the one making the mistakes is when hes complaining about swf. Swf isn't the problem in the equation
@@ariz.k9901 did you watch this whole video?
@@ghostlyexe he could've and just disagreed, is scott a god at this point ? of course not, his views still can be wrong, same thing for tru3 ..... But i don't like all the hate for tru3 in these comments, if anything they're just proving that dbd is a very toxic game, it even makes scott look bad because he made the video.
@@Mr-xz9qg I mean did you see his response tho? Scott responded to it in a mature and calm manner, but the comment on the video true gave doesn't help his case at all. Hes the one being immature
Guys, are we seriously acting like there’s gonna be actual drama in the DbD community? All Scott is asking for is some civil discussion... which is obviously stupid. What we REALLY need is Otzdarva staring down Tru3, the ring and cage both slick with sweat and blood. Otz is covered in welts and bruises, taken off-guard by the fact that he wasn’t allowed to bring bear traps into a professional match. Meanwhile, Tru3’s tank top is torn, mumbled words like “viable” and “optimal” leaving his torn lips. But... who is that, from down south, with a steel chair?! It’s Zubatlel, running directly into the cage due to his naturally poor eyesight. The steel chair clatters from his hands, only for OhTofu to roar “Wow, he’s a [insert perk here] gamer!” as he shears the cage open. The stench of sweat fills his chest, as he lifts the steel chair from Zubat’s limp hands. “Unlucky,” he murmurs, barely conscious. The match continues, steel chair placing a dent in Otz’s head-and vice versa. Scott makes a sudden appearance, dropping from above like a phantom of an opera, taking out Tru3. Zubat rejoins the fight, and the clash continues with bloodlusted fervor.
Top tier comment
yeah nah brah
OhTofu & FarmerJohn as commentators!
I love this comment
See, this is why bloodsport is the optimal play. No confusion or toxicity, just one single clear winner rising above the rest.
*True gets juked or outplayed*
True: This guy is top 1%
no no no you got it all wrong. It should be written in caps
@@didijunior971 and the title should say "GOING UP AGAINST A PRO KOREAN TEAM SWF"
fr XD
TOP 1% OPTIMAL STREAM SNIPE BULLY SQUAD (GONE WRONG) (SWATTED)
@@tomaldred6271 *inserts myself into casket* LMFAOOOOO
Scott: "I'm not going to critique your gameplay,"
Also Scott: *proceeds to critique the gameplay*
Liars love to lie.
That's interesting. He didn't really critique things in my eyes, all he did was point out that the reason Tru3 lost was because he made lots of mistakes. Critiquing one's gameplay usually dives into thought-processing, decision-making, and also how to fix the mistakes going forward. That wasn't done here.
Ah you changed the comment lol
@@LunaticSoldiers exactly
@@LunaticSoldiers Well, actually he called tru3 a Dick and started to shit talk his attitude on the game, taking it more personal that it should, not only just critizicing his gampleay, but his community, his attitude and behaviour
Playing against a team of survivors without a weak link feels so overwhelming.
Agreed but you win some you lose some if you’re mad you lose matches doesn’t that make you a sweat 2 if you’re trying hard to kill a weak link that’s problematic to their matches so why should they give 2 fucks about how the killer feels when y’all are admitting to going for weak links lol, that ruins my games because then the killer is in a position to tunnel someone out and win, but when I swf it’s much easier to help your team avoid being tunneled like lol
@@climaxtermalhadevin8000 lmao are you ok? Who is mad here my guy
@@PhantomHalf Notice how they said "IF".
They're not saying anyone specifically is mad.
They're making a hypothetical.
The one thing I’ve always said about tru, as a fan of him, the second he plays good survivors, it’s MMR’s fault and everything’s op now
And when he plays survivor against a trash nurse or spirit he sais it’s easy to counter them
@@mongooseicy5184 yeah he contradicts himself a lot, i like him but man he can be little dense sometimes.
Otz is the same.
@@mongooseicy5184 yeah he overhype certain things like he says wraith is like mid-to-low A teir but he's clearly like top of B teir maybe in the middle of B teir I think even said one time that he is above the executioner which is like dead wrong he over hypes and under hypes so many things but don't get me wrong I like him
@@averagetalent9525 I don't think he understands that he's perpetuating the toxicity that he hates so much by giving such a strong reaction to it.
As a viewer, one of the most off-putting thing about content creators is when they're unwilling to admit their mistakes. Sure the game sometimes robs you, but always blaming your opponents only contributes to more entitlement in the community.
This is pretty much why I watch underrated dudes like RedGear. He admits his mistakes, such as being in a chase too long.
I personnaly try to give streamers some slacks aout those things. Personnaly, i'm the type of dude who is chill 90% of the time, but it happens that something makes me go to 11 in a matter of seconds when i feel robbed by the RNG or bad connection.
As an example : two survivors left, one has a key, open the htach and escape as i was winning. I felt disgussed having working so hard against this SWF for him to escape in front of my face. Knowing the last survivor was about to escape too, i just afk my killer and rolled a cigaret waiting for the match to end. As soon as i light it up, i noticed the survivor going from injured to healthy, and then a couple of seconds later i see his head poping. My instinct was to grab the mouse and chase him. But because of my cigaret i couldn't aim for shit and start slightly burning the side of the desk. I missed all my m1 because of it and was extra pissed off against myself as i saw him escape through hatch.
In end game chat, one of his team mate congratulate him for the escape. To which i wrongfully replied that i let him go on purpurse (total lie). If i played for 7 hours and someone just clipped that and start ananlysing my gameplay as if this was a regular occurence i probably feel terrible about it.
THIS! Everybody I watch other than small streamers or Otzdarva is just the entitlement level is too high. he recently uploaded a video where the man was straight up FUMING but not once did he say "Nerf SWF" or "That's op".
Imagine wanting to nerf SWF when my friends are probably worse then the self care meg at the edge of the map.
I still love my friends tho even if they aren't good at a game
I love you
I think you should watch more of tru3 because his stand point on swf was to nerf the high end of players which is very small minority without impacting the new/ “bad” players
@@prophetofink7971 I ain't watching someone i don't enjoy watching, Watched him for like, the first two days of me starting to play(mainly come back to) dbd, quickly found him insufferable cause of his attitude
@@killfill9 okay, whatever you feel about his personality I do agree he can be like watching paint dry but his view on swf isn’t what you think it is. Nerf the higher player base without impacting new players.
@@prophetofink7971 but does he ever actually have a plan for such a thing? Cause think of how feasible that is to put in game when a potato can get rank 1
Did we really got that low ? like, the drama was already idiotic but, calling out names now ? really ?
Ehy, vedo che sei italiano dal tuo nome. Purtroppo si, l'umanità è ridotta a questo schifo. Non esiste bontà online, solo falsi sorrisi. Tutta questa situazione sta accadendo perché Scott sta assumendo cose. Il che è idiotico
@@bigenemy000 d'acordo
I was not expecting Scott to summarize why I don't watch Truetalent but he just did.
And he did it extremely well
This is why I fucking love Scott. He tells it like it is and he’s got solid backing for his opinions. He’s also not full of himself and actually takes responsibility for his mistakes and, unlike tru3’s deceptive “logical” approach, Scott ACTUALLY uses valid proof for his arguments instead of cherry-picking what counts as a valid argument and what’s a logical fallacy based on what benefits his agenda.
yes
@@qoughitup Uh oh we got a stan here.
I love it when fanboys create unneeded discourse in a community already plagued by a bad reputation
"I'm not going to critique your matches, no one wants to see that." - *that's where you're wrong, bucko*
Word
@@averagetalent9525 you have a whole account made about another man
That’d be pretty lame
@@averagetalent9525 probably not but it seems like you're mad about a certain man on the internet who makes videos
@@PlayboiCartier Geez you're probably one of those guys that stream snipe his survivor games and sandbag him the whole time. Pathetic lol
I used to watch this guy religiously when I first started out. Once I hit about a thousand hours on killer, I realized how arbitrary a lot of his claims were and I could no longer enjoy him for his attitude and leading others in the game to act like that - which is something we definitely need less of.
Same. I have to admit, I fanboyed a little too hard and that even recently, but realised that whenever I took a deeper look into his claims, some sound blatantly ridiculous. I still don't agree with what happened with True, getting mocked and that absurd "True imitating a disabled person to offend them", but I can't really agree with him either.
I always just disagreed with many of his claims from the get-go, but he’s an infinitely better player than me so I don’t critique much because I’m utter shit
I figured out from 3 videos that Tru3ta1ent was an @hole, he camped a survivor for "butt dancing" - when the reality was that they had just been crouch walking.
You literally can't talk in his chat unless you're a follower lmfao.
I'm a killer main but Tru3 is SOOO killer biased it makes me ill.
This just made me respect Otz even more
Same, and same goes for Noob3
@@3xterminator05 hey I love Noob as much as the next guy, but he has an... interesting past so idk if comparing him here is really a good idea lmao
@@Kurse_of_Kall I’ve never heard of his past
@@Kurse_of_Kall was it cause he got banned from Dbd from a bug? Or something else?
@@Kurse_of_Kall CAN I GET AN EXPLANATION ABOUT NOOB3 PLEASE?
Scott talkin to tru3 like how I talk to my dad trying not to make him mad
i feel that
LMAO
I liked the part where you sorta touched on personal responsibility, people dont like to admit when they lose because they misplay (me included). You see it a lot in competitive games and DBD isnt different in this idea. But when you have a platform with many people who share your viewpoints, negative ideas can spread quickly.
I know I’m a bad player, and I honestly don’t really care. 😂 I just try my best to have fun, and learn things to try and get better. And if I’m ever not a ‘pro’, who cares? If I have fun, that’s all that matters.
@@NikkiLove9022 I agree with ya on that. I used to be a toxic little bastard back in the day, whining when I lost as killer or survivor.
Now I am just alright with playing against anyone, its a game and if they have fun thats fine by me, sure sometimes I come across the occasional toxic bullysquad though I try not to let them get to me as I know thats what they want.
@@SulphurMind Exactly! I used to tbag and flash click away, but when I started playing killer into red ranks, I understood their pain and felt horrible for an already miserable experience it is to be a high rank killer.
Ever since then, I hate toxicity and generally help people when they’re being personally attacked in the chat or DMs. No need to be a douche!
It's the only way you get better. You have to see what you're doing wrong. Otherwise you're truetalent lol
@@lisaozenich This is actually pretty good
In Rocket League, for example, when you're in a party, it shows a little green symbol next to your name indicating that you're in a party. Maybe DBD could do something like that, I think it'd really help.
i may have missed something but would that even work? like i play in a duo sometimes but what about the other two if they where a duo? would that stack i’m guessing? or would only 20% debuff i’m confused idk if i missed something please let me know
grrr I hate these survivors playing with their friends, having a social life sucks
Hehe hi Breadn
As a console (lol) player, every crybaby entitled killer I’ve seen has very little friends on their friends list, maybe 15-20 max. And every crybaby entitled survivor has the SWF they’re playing with + maybe 10-20 more friends on their friends list.
I’m totally not saying anything...its just interesting is all....
@@ExOTiC1234 not having a lot of online friends doesnt mean shit. Some people arent as open or dont care to friend everyone.
Same with having hundreds of online friends. Some people just like to fill that list to the brim. I doubt either group is playing with everyone from the list, though.
Though, if its straight up just 1.5 friends on their list, then maybe.
TK_the_Onion Obviously the amount of PSN friends you have doesn’t mean anything its just funny how its true without fail everytime and isnt even exclusive to killers.
How dare they have friends. What about Bubba?! >:c
I would be more interested in hearing about this "ping" system that you only briefly mentioned as a potential buff for solo queue.. Would it be something akin to how maps can place god beams? Or more of a ping like in Rainbow Six Siege where you aim at something and it shows everyone on your team exactly what it is you pinged?
maybe it just be a general concept. "objective" ping (gen totem etc) "killer" ping (hook, beartrap etc) "defense" ping (window pallet etc) but not specifics. (as well as a way to mute someone so they cant spam ping)
From my experience watching tru he’s just one of those killer isn’t good types. Dbd is a game and it’s ok to lose once in a while. I’ve played killer a lot and I’ve played against all rank 1 swf teams and sometimes you’ll beat them sometimes you won’t but don’t cry and say the whole game is out of balance. If killer wins completely every time that would be unbalanced.
100% agree
Don’t tell him that lol. He thinks he’s dbd royalty.
@@pobster88j94 exactly. He really thinks he’s put so many hours in the game that, he is peak performance in Dbd and that it’s no possible way that a team of people could actually play the game better than him. It’s just unbalanced lol no way others are good too
But the Majority of the whole game is unbalanced..
Yeah except DBD IS NOT balanced and is heavily survivor sided, but sure surv mains, live in your delusions, keep flash clicking and T-bagging and don't forget an obligatory NOED OP whine 😂
"You lost because you were playing Plague" This is the core issue with dead by daylight right now. There should be more than two or three viable killers at high ranks
He didn't say he lost because he was playing Plauge. He lost because the survivors were really good, on a rough map AND he was playing a mid-tier killer.
Against most teams you play against you can 4k with Plauge quite easily if you're good enough and that goes for 70% of the killers.
That’s true man but remember that all online games always have a “top tier” killer/weapon/perks ecc. I really think that the worst thing about the game are spawns and some maps. I play mostly surv but i play a lot of killer too and sometimes you start a match as surv and you all are split up. By the time the killer downs someone you already have 3 gens at 60/70%
there are, you can run speed limiter bubba and still 4k the majority of your games in red ranks.
@@mongooseicy5184 this !! not every killer is gonna be top tier but every killer should have a basis of a strength i’d say perfect balance for a killer would be oni or blight high risk high reward while fun to play and fun to play against while also being strong with clear weaknesses
@@christianftt3136 what's the clear weakness of blight and oni? both are REALLY HIGH TIER KILLERS.
As a new-ish player, I appreciated this a lot. I honestly can't yet tell when a streamer is making mistakes or not because all y'all are wayyyyyy better than me. So I sort of took tru3's complaints about swfs at face value. I heard rebuttals, of course, but none were very convincing. It was all a lot of he-said/he-said stuff and I (mistakenly) gave tru3 the benefit of the doubt because... honestly I have no idea why. Anchoring bias, probably. So thanks. You have a habit of making compelling arguments and changing my mind about things in this game - keep it up!
Otz / scott / zubat are the more positive humble constructive criticism guys, tru3 has a lot of valid points but he is TOO focused on the negative aspects of the game to the point where he blows them out of proportion to a cartoonish level (any great play, it's SWF) he has an issue with wanting to prove he is the best or something so he desperately shields himself from criticism when it's perfectly valid, they are ALL equally skilled although to me Otz has best game knowledge / Scott has the best vision for the game / and Zubat and Tru3 are elite mechanically at their best. The whole issue with Tru3 is just his mindset really, as a player you can learn a lot from him ALTHOUGH I believe he has regressed as a player due to his mentality. Good luck learning about the game it can be a crazy learning curve lots of info.
@@thephantomjle43 This is a really great summary for the bigger streamers in the community
@@mmykromorasrandom9788 he didnt talk about noob3😢
@@thephantomjle43 Forgot Tofu :)
@@thephantomjle43 I like Hexy. Smile.
Is here where i get my torch and pinchfork ?
@Scott Jund I think the biggest help for solo survivor is what Dowsey said and change the tome. Killer tome are centered around primary objectives like hook 12 survivors, break x amount of pallets etc, things a killer does in the game. Most survivor tomes are centered around secondary objectives like open chests, cleanse totems etc. So u basically get 4 solo survivors sabotaging hooks, opening chests, cleansing totems. With swf they can coordinate better so u have 1 survivor maybe doing a tome like the glyphs, 2 doing gens and one looping. I think if the tomes were centered around primary objectives you'd see better solo play.
As an expert in making videos that rub people the wrong way, rather than making the video first assuming he wouldn't debate you, wouldn't it have been better to contact him and see first?
Making the video before checking his actual response sounds like something I would do. Not you.
Depending on the reception and response from Tru3, this is going to stir the community up unnecessarily.
As a personal touch, I would have included a clip of his actual statement. So everyone is on the same page for your discussion.
We've already been discussing this on Twitter. He doesnt want to do a live debate according to what he said on his stream so this is the next best thing I can do.
i figured id find you eventually
@Space Coconut is right, I feel like Scott should have contacted true first. I am watching True talent now and he’s saying Scott was cherry picking his words. It is kinda bad when you don’t include the whole conversation true actual said. I feel like this is going to stir the pot for no reason.
@@ScottJund you did great man!!!
❤️
@@ScottJund Fair enough.
Thank fuck someone who's actually got a large voice in the community has said this. I had to stop watching Tru3 because literally EVERY time I saw him start losing, the first thing he'd say "must be swf."
i say that to myself when i start losing too
but really only when they do a suspiciously well coordinated save or something
It's genuinely so lame. I love watching killer games because they're exciting but it's either a boring ass kicking or it's the streamer constantly complaining that's survivor op killer bad and whining and it gets so fucking tiring I genuinely can't. I feel like killer mains often don't acknowledge their own bias
@@fluffybum204 give me that fluffy bum
@@optimus-prime5256 uh youtube isnt the place to look for ass my friend go to twitter or something-
@@fluffybum204 it was a joke, lol
What videos are being referenced here? Were they uploaded on yt or timestamps in yesterday's vod? I wanna watch
Scott do you think buffing solo queue by making kindred default would help but without seeing the killers aura
My favorite part was "2 brick walls smashing into each other"
My mind deviated from there, but ye, live debate would be sweet.
I don't even think that's accurate, scott is clearly way more chill about the game and he's just as good - he admits when he's wrong, more humble basically and open to debate.
Tru3 on the other hand takes the game so seriously it makes me mentally exhausted, and comes across as condescending most of the time.
@@thephantomjle43 nonononono, we ain't waging a "my mistr strimmr is bettr and heres fiddy reasons why" war here
We are going to talk about brick walls.
@@tk_the_onion I LOVE red brick walls. Not a fan of grey concrete ones though...
@@tk_the_onion Damn Tk, I see you everywhere
@@misfitmemur3069 I'm beginning to get that comment a lot.
I propose more bloodpoints for being vs survive with friends like 10% more per.
Edit:To clarify I know killers already get bloodpoints easier but against sfw you are inherently are having a harder game and should be rewarded for doing good. That isn't to say I think survivors shouldn't also get more bloodpoints just in general I think they should. The games grind is sorta insane at this point there is 179 perks currently. Of which 75% are mostly hot garbage there to fill up space the same as sprays are in overwatch.
That’s a weird idea but I like it
Thatd be sweet. Itd be nice to have that indication at the end saying "these guys were duo, this was solo queue, and Quentin was quentin" and getting a little bp bonus at the end.
Killers get enough bp for more fun activities imo. For survivors is basically do a gen and hit your skillchecks for points, or get tunneled out early and end up with sub 10k bp. Never had a sub 10k killer game.
Being paid off in a stupidly high grind game to just grin and bear it solves nothing.
@@Purberus96 survs also get points from looping with killer so they also have an funny way to get them
Can Someone link the tru3 video? thx
Hey Scott. I have a question. Aside from the SWF’s, do you think that generator speeds are too fast? I feel like if gen speed was slower overall in the game, for solo and SWF, it would be a lot more fun because it would slow the game down.
He already made a video addressing this question
@@sharinngan5084 Thanks Scott.
I haven't watched Tru3 in awhile, but I just remember watching through the whole "Wraith and Ghostface are the second and third best killers" and if you disagreed then you were "not on the same level of thinking as me" so I think I already know how this is all going to end. This entire viewpoint is only thinking about those extremely rare instances where there's that 1% unbeatable sweaty team among the 99% group of friends who are decent at the game at the very least. Punishing people who just want to have fun with friends is how you kill this game completely. This just has no empathy.
I don't recall Tru3 ever putting either of them above Nurse or Spirit though, he's been pretty consistent about those 2 being the top killers for a long, long time now.
@@equalopportunity2048 Back when he "invented" the Sloppy/Nurse combo and playstyle, he hyped both of those killers up to be 2nd and 3rd best. I don't even remember when this was, I think right after Demo got released. He eventually stopped, most likely because he became a meme in the community.
@@zero_cali_4772 I dont remember him saying 2nd or 3rd but he was making it seem like they could compete with nurse and spirit lol
Youre a damn liar zero cali
@@forever_nocturne4146 He flat out said 2nd and 3rd best numerous times. I remember it clearly because reddit and every big discord server laughed about it. Thinking old Wraith was above Spirit and Freddy is just silly.
This is exactly why I stopped watching him.
He used to be my fav dbd streamer but his attitude of "I don't make mistakes" is just annoying, also he is not that great for someone with 6k hours :/
Again, hating him for speaking facts. Doesnt make sense, swf is imbalance, facts. His is good at the game so let him say it, which is also a fact. It's better than those steamers like jrm or sweh who just love to focus in and out of their screen when they play DBD
@@ariz.k9901 who is hating him? Lol
He is good, he is not the best, he is not great for someone who has 6k hours. I don't know why bringing sweh or JRM is relevant lol.
@@alejandromartinezramirez4841 Yeah but look at the amount of hate comments on his video about tru3 which doesnt even speak about the game. What you mean he isnt the best? He is few of the streamers are the best of both sides. Give sweh or jrm to play killer, man will shit himself. Those people only play one side and everyone start thinking they are the best
@@ariz.k9901 idk who tf sweh is but jrm is pretty decent at killer.
Yeah I see Otz who has done amazing things with shit tier killers no one wants to touch with a 10 foot pole like trapper or clown, and despite his legendary achievements he’s always humble, he always points out his own mistakes so he and his viewers can learn better, he’s always nice and polite even when encountering rude players, overall an awesome guy with no ego despite his obvious skill. Then you have true who is basically the opposite, always talking shit, always deflecting blame on his mistakes, always implying that he’s basically better than anyone else out there and going up against the most absolutely god like opponents, and more annoyingly, always down playing and shitting on the skills and achievements of others.
Then when people call him out he and his dumb ass fans double down in a rage explaining to everyone how unfair everyone is to poor little streamer true. Like this asshole above me lol
I do think there's a fault in saying "10% longer gen times = 10% longer matches". Think about pop, ruin etc. and their impact when you stop a gen right before it gets finished.
But in this case you are applying preassure to get pop and stop a gen, so those 10% hardly mattered
@@xmangle5382 How often do you run towards a gen, ready to pop it, just for survivors to finish it in your face? Happens a lot to me
@@Youre-absolutely-right a lot, but i think i failed to tell you my point
@@Youre-absolutely-right when those types of matchs happen, i'm usually losing because of bad lucky with spawns, my first chase took way to long or i took to long to find the first survivor, if that is not happening and im being able to apply some preassure those 10s would hardly matter and at least a 2k would happen
Think about popping a gen in under a minute within a match. Think about prove thy self. Think about the game ending too quickly. Stop being survivor selfish.
Hey scott how do i sign up for ur spirit challenge
I stopped watching Tru3 because absolutely everything was “I’m a good killer look at me” or “Fucking Dead Hard/Borrowed Time/DS/SWF” and literally nothing was him, which seems to be the mindset behind all his arguments and suggested changes
This, I used to be subscribed to him and he started out good, but eventually he just became like : "I am so good, and everything I say is right and should be listened to for the good of the game"
Same, I tired to ask him a question and I wasn’t a paid subscriber so he refused to answer it but says me not being a “paid subscriber” wasn’t why.
undeniably he is good but he does have a super high ego which means when he does fuck up its not his fault.
Meanwhile most of his RUclips gameplays are using the most broken add-ons for each killer and the most meta perks
Oh yeah. And he was like this before DBD, he can do no wrong.
Even though you have no malintent behind what you’re saying in this video, some how I can tell it’s going to be taken the wrong way by either him or his community 🤷🏻♂️
i mean that's the internet, no avoiding it. i did really feel the need to rant about it and I hope people don't create drama where there is none
Seems like its some of scott's community that has malice towards True
@Reconing Gamer That's the thing, he really isn't towards anyone in particular except that one person who must never be named again. While I don't agree with everything tru3 says, there really is just a hate boner against the guy amongst a lot of communities. It's silly.
My money is on his community taking this the wrong way.
Literally every community has that 5% of individuals who will go on a crusade because their favorite mister streamer's opinion isnt shared by another person.
If they slowed generator progression for being in a swf, would that only apply for a 4 man? Or would 3 people cause it, in which case pour one out for the 4th who has slowed gens and still no communication. Also, I often queue with someone who really is the Claudette with urban and self care. They are the potato teammate you hope you don't get, but I do it because he is a friend. Its already hard enough to survive with him now. Tru3's fix would have a fair bit of collateral damage.
Someone let me know when/if/what tru3 says anything about this video
11:57 "because you didn't actually hook anybody"
me: yo bro GO EASY ON HIM MAN BRO DAMN
the response is going to be salty lol
@@Haddley333 No. True is only respectful to other well known streamers. Otherwise he'll bich and moan then say "I have over 4000 hours! See my power levels.
Yeah i lost my shit when he said tru3 played awful xD scott is a damn savage
@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 This isn't the first time. A while back people posted a clip of true getting a 1K with billy on the forums using it as a way of showing the game was broken. But.. all he did was hook 1 dude and patrol basement and the survivors played smart and escape. I remember Scott outright calling it out in the thread and people getting pissy at him.
@@Thatitchyguy i feel like huge streamers try to brainwash their viewers at times just like he kept saying Spireh had counterplay 🤡 she doesn't its either she sucks or has a good headset
One thing I've noticed is that SWFs can often get really cocky and swarm the killer, which actively harms their chances of surviving.
or they meme around and don't do gens at all, which i find entertaining to see in my games XD
@@tuggerjaegger2886 yea like 2 people always right next to you when you're in a chase so they can flashy flashy or try to sabo hook or some bogus that doesn't even work
yeah lol usually when i notice a team doing obvious swf stuff like that, i pretend to be worse at killer than i am and when they get too cocky bc of it it's way easier to quickly down them all and turn a 0 or 1k into a 4k
@@zKatari ? Get better friends ? When I get invited by rank 1 friends they bodyblock, sabo, flashlight, clickbait killers, makes game way easier for me even though the killer will be higher skill for me.
@@bushzzz I was talking from a killer perspective at like purple ranks and sometimes red
There is a video where he play Oni only M1 (he had the Power) and he says sfw genrush ecc.. what the hell ? If you dont active the power how can you win ?
Did you see not Otzdarva and TrU3Ta1ent live talk on Otzdarva channel of this topic?.
He unfortunately had the same mindset and attitude in For Honor, anything he didn't like was op and not the fact that he just wasn't good at the game, I know that FH obviously had alot of bad things back then but still, was a meme for a reason 🤷♂️
Ah yes, the days of Warden and his “FOOKIN FIFTEH-FIFTEH”
Tru3's an alright dude but he does whine like a bitch when shit isn't going his way. Then refuses to admit he's mad and tells everyone calling him out that they're mad, they're just projecting. It's pretty silly. I still watch his streams every now again though.
Oh Havok, honestly this is the last place I though I'd ever see you. Good videos friend!
Otz: "If you look at yourself and the mistakes you make while playing, you will improve."
Tru3: "fokkin swf man, fokkin ded ard man, don't critique me tho you're creating a false narrative :("
@@ThePowerofCutleries lmao😂
my guy is spittin right now 🙏🏾
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Honest question - in an asymmetric pvp game like DBD, shouldn’t a high performing team win against the solo player? It seems like that is the point of the game. A group of people working in harmony is more powerful than individual effort.
Not necessarily. Its asymmetrical because the killer is supposed to be morr powerful, which we all know isn't true at all. Also the killer doesn't get the option to play with other people so kinda shouldn't get the advantage just for clicking play survivor with 4 other people.
What happens if DBD just adds coms for survivors? And then remove Brand New Parts?
I wish more people understood it's okay to say "I played like shit that game." realise you're not going to (or supposed to) win every match and move on to the next one. Ez.
If you win every single match it would get boring and when u do finally lose you'd complain , im sort of guilty because i feel if i don't win then the survivors will harass me i have anxiety anyway so its even harder
I play trickster all day long and if I lose I blame myself bc even with the most trash killer you can still win unless rng in the match isnt on your side Ive has survivors spawn on top of gen when I fucking have corrupt so it the game fault sometime on why I lose but I dont even care anymore lol
@@Jack.Martson i respect you as a fellow killer player , need more tricksters out there
@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 trickster is fun but he also just bullshit lol throwing so many knifes over loops and you can’t do anything sucks but regardless trickster over spirit anydayb
@@Jack.Martson yeah fuck spirit lol i play alot of killer but i refuse to play her, i might soon if im having a bad day but otherwise id prefer my insidious noed Bubba got a 4k against a 3 man swf
That’s the thing that tru almost always has wrong from what I’ve seen. The moment he goes against decent survivors suddenly they’re a SWF and they’re op. He rarely even admits his own mistakes and just complains about SWF instead of looking inward.
Yep, its unfortunately why I stopped watching him. Like he's a good player, good content creator, entertaining, amazing guy but his mentality when he loses is just shit.
Doge profiles have no opinion
Don't forget all of his stream sniper claims too.
do we know they only have three months or is that all they had ON CONSOLE?
If you buff solos up to swf, you'd probably need to give killers info on perks and add on that survs were running with the amount of info you'd have to give solos to boost them to swf level? right?
the guys name is “true talent” you think he wouldn’t have an ego? lol
Tbf dude made that when he was young he doesn’t care about changing it.
@@Tk-sh3bf Fair enough. I dont like tru3 that much due to this attitude but man these comments are bashing on him on such little things like his name lmao its crazy
My name is ‘KirkPwns’ on almost every game I play and I hate myself lmao
@@KirkPwns lol that’s cute
Everyone should have an ego first of all it's about controlling your ego. Second of all I used to call myself ShadowStalker2232. Online username really isn't that deep
Top 3 most brutal roast in history :
3: Eminem on Benzino
2: Lamar roasting Franklin
1: Scott Jund 3:25
True got roasted until he was crispy
Ya I think map design is a bigger problem like certain loops, totem spawns especially. For me it’s just frustrating that I can lose the entire game by making 2 - 4 mistakes where survivors can make way more and still all live.
This video is pretty much why i haven’t watched tru3 so much for the past couple years. I used to watch him a tonne when i was first getting into the game but now if i watch too much, his mental state with the game starts affecting mine and i enjoy it less
In the second game he also had fucking black incense lol
@Nate Higgers you aint fooling anyone with that name bro😐
@@livinglikelarry5056 bahahaha for real man some of these degenerates in the comments are hilarious
Tru3 likes to just blurt out ideas. He hasn't thought them through, he just recognizes the state it's in now isn't very fun for the killer
Well, he should recognize killers can make games very unfun for survivors as well. Both sides have equal means to make the game unfun for the other, and, once the misery circle jerk is in full stride, there is no stopping the salt that spews out.
*unless spirit or nurse with meta perks
@@averagetalent9525 chill dude so agressive
@@tk_the_onion I could literally play perkless addonless , old freddy and people would STILL not have fun. What I have learned "If you are better than me, shit ain't fun" not just this game but I see that mentality in literally just about every multiplayer game.
I think Tru3's biggest problem is he is very arrogant. I like the guy, I frequently watch his stream and his RUclips clips. He's a fun guy to watch because he knows his shit but like I said, he's very arrogant. He likes to preface his statements frequently with 'I have knowledge/experience, I know what I'm talking about' etc. And if you disagree with him he will challenge you almost immediately.
I remember a game I watched of him recently where he fucked up and got downed by a Nurse very early in the game and immediately made excuses that 'It's like round 1 of a fighting game, first down doesn't mean anything', basically devaluing the Nurse's down and when he started doing better against her later he claimed that backed up his prior statement. Tru3 is competitive and doesn't like to lose which goes hand and hand with his arrogance. It's why his debate video with Otz, while entertaining and fun didn't really go anywhere because he never really had any intention of coming around to his point of view because he thinks he is always right. Again, like the guy a lot but, I aknowledge he isn't perfect.
i'll throw my 2 cents in. I really think what they should change other than the obvious some map design and layouts is the starting points of survivors why not have a "exit gate" in which all 4 survivors exit out of the same spot and on the other side the killer does as well. Giving the feeling of the entity releasing the 2 groups into the battle field it would make a big difference of spawning on totems or 3 groups of survivors starting on different gens and just hitting them so hard before you get your first hook.
I’m gonna grab popcorn and watch Tru’s stream today to see 1000 people ask him repeatedly “did you see Scott’s RUclips?”
Anytime you pop into Tru’s streams or watch his content, 99% of the time he’s complaining about something. Idk how people can watch that
Honestly, his chat is way more aggravating. This was especially apparent when he was watching the anniversary stream. I'm not even kidding, when they were going over clips from Fog Whisperers, someone legit said "this is why I hate this community. Tru3 seems like he's the only mature individual", when there were clips of people laughing, yelling, and overall just having fun with the game. Like damn, it's just a video game man, let people have fun
@@VFG204 tbf, i dont have fun doing things. idt thats too big a problem
@@VFG204 to be honest that's twitch chat in general twitch chat is autistic
@@VFG204 I criticized his Spirit once and his Chat proceeded to call me an Entitled Survivor main, someone called me an Ableist slur and then got muted for "picking fights" lol
Because it gives the viewers validation that they aren't losing cuz of skill, but because it's an unfair match.
In my opinion not all swf’s are automatically op I play with 3 of my friends sometimes and to put it bluntly they are bad at looping they will last like 10 seconds in a chase each chase I’m the only decent looper in the swf yes we have comms but 3 bad loopers and one decent one with comms won’t do much when I’m downed
same here. whenever i play with my group of friends, i'm the only decent one and i generally throw (body blocking, free hits, drawing aggro when on deathhook) so they don't get continuously hooked.
im just gonna quote a comment i made on someone else
'i dont think it should effect casuals at all. when you believe a team is a swf you start playing on the idea that they are communicating. if you guys are or arent it doesnt make a difference because all that means to the killer is they expect you to bare minimum say where killer is/is going.'
Exactly. I'm Brazilian and play with 3 west coast americans in SWF and discord. I happen to be the better looper for more experience but they are learning quickly and will probably get better than me soon also that 200 ping and getting hit across killer shack some times :(
Tbf, not all swfs want to sweat every god-damn game. I like to mess around with my friends, literally throwing the game off. We do not give callouts like "killer at twelve o'clock etc".
@@immoralamv9971 that’s my point not all swf’s should be punished because a few try to ruin the fun for one killer
i wanna hear ur opinion on this idea sure its not thought out fully because well im not a dev have data n all that but what if they made it so survivors start with for example a repairpenalty down to for example 70 precent speed wich goes away after maybe 2 minutes that would give the killer abit more time early game and survivors would have more of a reason to go for side objectives like totems n such
if this would be a video of true : Top 1% swf vs my nurse xD
more like: TOP 1% SWF VS MY NURSE!
@@Onibaka cream of the crop survivors vs MY NURSE.
Lol facts.
@@Onibaka he cant fathom losing to mediocre players
I suggest changing the 1v4 format into a 4v1 format. This change gives killers a fairer chance in defeating a survivor.
No longer shall there be games in which a killer can be looped for 5 gens. Problem solved, Scott.
Babe, wake up! Scott Jund vid at 1 AM
1:32 pm here
One thing I always thought would be fun for both sides and encourage people to also play together (one of the biggest things that keeps a game alive is community), would be adding challenges for SWF to do that would make the game more challenging and rewarding, such as additional objectives on the map that require more coordination (maybe optional?), such as buttons that have to be pressed at the same time to open a door that has a chest with bloodpoints, auric cells, good items, offerings, etc. Maybe even have some type of "curses" SWF would randomly have generated to make the game more difficult, but get some kind of multiplier based on the curse. The more players grouped up, the more rewards like this would become available, and maybe have something that whatever the survivors leave on the map, the killer gets instead. I think it would be something easy to implement, and would diversify the gameplay without discouraging groups, and rewarding both survivors and killers based on the difficulty of the experience. Idk, just sort of an idea that probably will never happen. It's fun to think about stuff like that though. I think the main take away though is that people shouldn't be punished for playing with their friends (I almost exclusively play killer and solo quo survivor if that means anything here).
I think you’re totally right Scott, except it’s a bit more complicated than just saying a 10 minute game would be an 11 minute game if you slowed gens by 10%. Sometimes that 8 extra seconds per gen could mean you make it there in time to pop it or just push someone off of it and let ruin regress it a bit. Now you’re adding more time to make up for that regression.
Regardless of what happens between True and Scott, the comments are gonna be a shit show. Who's ready to watch a dumpster fire?
me 🙋🏼♀️
I am ready to dive into that dumpster, because I am a metaphorical homeless bum.
Me. I don't even watch Scott, I just heard all this stuff going down and wanted to see all these salty people going at it lol.
Yeah , prepare the Sandgoogles
Scott's message for the second game is exactly what I've said about SWF for as long as people have been complaining about it: SWF doesn't make people good, it just makes them coordinated. Bad survivors are still going to be bad, regardless of whether they're on comms or not. The only thing that makes SWF really strong is honestly the fact that it means you're guaranteed 3 competent teammates.
And passive aura perks. It makes protection hits easier to rinse and repeat.
Really? They telling each other where the killer is, is not an advantage? Telling each other where totems are, is not an advantage? Telling each other perks and add-ons the killer have, is not and advantage? Telling each other where are traps, is not an advantage? Telling each other what gen is about to complete, not an advantage? Telling each other if the killer is near the hook, no? Telling each other what perks they're about to use? Telling each other what gate is free to open?
No that's not strong at all...
@@Thomx13 they have to find them things first, do you really expect to punish survivors for being smart
@@jonnyhill1239 what's smart about watching and speaking in a mic? Jesus Christ...
@@Junboex3 what mark? He's saying the only thing that makes survivors strong is removing the chance to play with a random player. You think it would be the same thing if they make a swf, but without comms?
One of the advantages that you either avoided or didn't think of is comms would give you easy knowledge of where the killer is at all times if near a survivor.
Yeah I agree and all but when do you invite him to a 1v1 shack
Straightforward analysis. I stopped watching True because of these rants and he started talking about logical people not being logical. His person just doesn’t make sense.
Tru3 is very good at making people look like an idiot even if he is being the idiot or stubborn one in the situation. He has a calm, concise manner of speaking that I think makes him appear smarter than he actually is. It's like when he starts throwing words like 'Knowledge' and 'logical' around left and right.
Love Tru3 but don't disagree with the man or he will take time out of his stream to spend 5 to 10 minutes challenging you.
@@fart895 “The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence.”
@@1hajimata Maybe a little of that but it definitely comes down to arrogance compounded by an audience that almost universally agrees with him. That's nothing exclusive to Tru3 though, literally every streamer on the planet with an audience is mostly spitting opinions to an echo chamber.
@@fart895 Yeah I agree totally. I still sometimes watch tru3 cause he is no doubt very good at the game. But it’s very annoying these days because all he does is blame his own faults on SWF or poor game design. I’ve also noticed that if you don’t agree with his opinion you’re just plain wrong. You’re a part of the “narrative” as he likes to say.
I’ll be honest, I find true to be an incredibly ego-driven person. Everything that radiates from him just screams “I wanna be #1” and it’s gross. He’s got a really bad attitude and it just seems like he wants to win 24/7 rather than just playing some good games. I just don’t like that he’s so quick to blame outside forces while he sits in his own self righteousness and narcissism. You pointed out some really great things here Scott, it was all very informative and very insightful. I would only hope he doesn’t take it in the worst way possible, or take the valid criticisms to heart.
Nothing wrong with being competitive. I’d much rather someone be more egotistical and overconfident than someone who is just always down on themselves
Spot on.
@@Upsetkiller456 Yeah and normal people don't behave like either of those extremes, so your comment is 100% irrelevant, not to mention that's your own bias. What the OP said is 100% true. Bring in a clinical psychologist and I would guarantee that Tru3 would be diagnosed as mildly narcissistic at the very least. He never, EVER accounts for his own mistakes.
@@Upsetkiller456 And I would know, I first tuned into his steams in 2017, stopped watching because of the very same reasons the OP said. Not even my opinion, it's an observable fact, as Scott indicated here in the video.
@@louiss2595 I never said I didn't agree bub, I've had numerous games of his that I watched and saw a plethora of mistakes yet he shoveled it off however: I'm not just going to start attacking his character when in all reality, he hasn't done anything bad.
What if we block killers like huntress from getting inside maps
It goes for all killers block them from maps that are bad for them and always favour maps that are good for them
But
If surviver uses map offering they Can go on other maps that dissfavour
But killer Can also use maps that favour them and killer have higher favour
I agree with the sentiment of have a debuff on survive with friends, however it should be to an extent where its almost unnoticeable at all. Like for every person in a survive with friends, generator repair speed is hindered by 2% (ex: 2 SWF is 4%, 3 is 6%, and 4 is 8%)
Now you could do that, or nerf the repair speed for multiple survivors in a SWF when repairing a generator together, but I don’t think it should be out of the question entirely
I honestly know nothing about Tru3Ta1ent other than he's been at the center of a lot of weird and kind of out-of-touch DBD discourse.
Out of touch? I don’t that’s right, dudes been playing since 2016
@@SlasherologyYT so?
@@lesdodoclips3915 so that means he isn’t out of touch when it comes to dbd since he’s been playing from the beginning
@@SlasherologyYT that’s not true though. Are old people out of touch with modern culture?
@@SlasherologyYT that’s not true though. Are old people out of touch with modern culture?
"I could talk about your gameplay but no one wants to see that"
Jokes on you I'm into that shit
he still let everyone stun him with pallets without using enduring or at least take a step back like Otz does since 2016.
@@Insanity-vv9nn dude that's so random
@@Insanity-vv9nn and btw he does that to get rid of god pallets, because strong survivors are usually greedy and don't drop pallets unless it's obvious that you don't respect them..... easy as that.
@@Mr-xz9qg I like to respect once to make survivors think I'm afraid of pallets, I sometimes get cheeky hits I otherwise wouldn't get if survivors dropped every pallet
@@Mr-xz9qg
If you bait it and they don't drop, you lose a literally meaningless amount of time after realizing they won't fall for it. THEN you let yourself get stunned. Obviously if they do fall for it you just gave yourself an advantage. Not really a reason to put yourself in harm's way when there's a better alternative.
they should buff the solo queue by allowing you to see the perks of every other survivor and set a status whether you were gonna do a gen, rescue a survivor or just clear status entirely, it can at least provide with some form of communication instead of being in the dark without wasting perk slots
I used to hear so much hate about SWF that I figured it was true, but with play time I got better and just abandoned chases I felt I couldn't win (unless I went in for practise) and only fear a godsurvivor these days. Thanks for making a video like this to spread this message.
This video actually made me feel really anxious at parts, because I've been on the giving end of feedback when it comes to Tru3 back in For Honor and I really, really hope this can all go over constructively, peacefully and not at all like my experience.
Much love and I think this *could* be a really interesting conversation and debate~
"I've been on the giving end of feedback when it comes to Tru3 back in For Honor" could you elaborate, im curious
@@Andreslashfully I spoke up about him back then, about how his toxic lashing out and belittling of people who outplay him is a terrible mindset. The reason I went from a fan to a critic of his was due to an event that happened back during the first month or so of For Honor there were many tournaments.
Tru3 went in as raider if I remember and got beat by my friend playing peacekeeper. I was watching him at the time since I was excited to see a streamer I enjoyed fighting a friend of mine. Tru3 quickly ended his stream with positivity and all that after losing and jumped into the stream's twitch chat. His tone completely changed, went on and on about how certain unbalanced characters should be banned so not "every unskilled half-wit can get an easy win" if I remember the comments exactly. My friend trained and put effort in for the tournament and of course Tru3 couldn't let that stand, had to do what he has since his days in Mortal Kombat; chalk it up to factors that don't involve him losing fairly.
I don't even speak openly negative about him anymore, apart from when these videos were fresh, because the same thing was happening with his lack of taking responsibilities for his shortcomings and it was relevant. I just ignore his existance mainly but it still hurt at the time, especially since he themed his streams as a "no negativity" zone during that era.
@@SocknGamers Thanks for answering, I imagined it was something like that.. I follow him since the MK days, but I didn't follow the scene too much when for honor came around, I watched him few times playing the game but I was unaware of the drama back in the day. Nowadays he does the same thing with DBD, its an unbalanced game but he takes the excuses too far a lot of times. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, but he is quite narcissist and very stubborn, doesn't handle criticism well at all, so I stopped watching his content lately. Anyways, have a nice day m8
This is one of my favorite things about watching Scott, listening to a logical, analytical debate topics. It's hard to find people like that these days sometimes, so thanks for the great content.
Shame everyone in the comment section is going "Way to call True out!!!" instead of actually listen to the topic at hand... *sigh*
@@TheEpicPancake Fr....sigh
The real question is how do we buff solo queue?
What is survive with friends?