IT or Developer - Which is the Right Career Choice for You?
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- In today's episode we are discussing the differences between IT and Developers/Programmers and helping you make a better decision on which might be the BEST choice for you.
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Just came to comment. I'm doing both. After high school I went on a study for Ict/network administrator. I graduated last year. Next August I'm gonna start my bachelors for software engineering. Wish me luck.
Good luck!
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Hey what’s up Wally!!! How’s everything going in your undergrad?
Wish you all the best @WaLLy
The thing about Networking is that you need experience, well you can't get the experience unless you're in the environment. Where as programming, all you need is to open up your computer.
I tried web dev for 4 years, hated it. Tried web dev self employed, hated it I wish i had come back to IT sooner. Going back into regular IT just fixing peoples computers, other have said they hated it, for some reason I just love helping people.
What made you hate it? thanks.
@@gsabella4 I mean, I don't hate it but there is a lot to learn with stressful deadlines and the high potential for failure or client dissatisfaction. I love web development AND IT but it is always important to keep a cool head. Mental health is paramount.
@@I_Lemaire Definitely a well thought out response. I want to get into IT, all I've done is cabling, data center, and basic help desk. I'm leaning towards cybersecurity or development.
@@I_Lemaire is there potential to work remote in most IT fields?
i can resonate... i regret the Web Development freelance route. left my IT job and had so many other offers but all off them are looking for network, system administrators. most Web Development jobs are now low paying and most big companies just contract programmers. gonna get my ccna and get back into IT..maybe the security field.
Develop IT tools and use them to do your IT work.
Good idea
Enter SRE/DevOps
17 years its a long time i really appreciate that effort
i also need to be working with it this long time u have used to work with it
Thank you for this helpful video! I am a sysadmin for 3 years now and also like programming. Wasn't sure to quit and start a career as a developer. But I think I would hate it to do the same thing 9 to 5, sitting in front of my computer and code, talk to noboby. Now I'm sure to stay where I am and become a better sysadmin. Thank you!
This is FANTASTIC!!! Thanks so much for this!
I found you on udemy and I gotta say you should have way more subs! Ive been looking for this information for a long time everything is becoming much clearer now thank you.
I totally am on board with why you like support it's similar to why I like IT over development. However sometimes I do get that feeling over going into development to build something and be proud of it. I feel like IT can become a "catch all" bucket and you get left in the woods.
This was the video I was looking for to decide which way to go in IT
Good video with great information. You are touching very good points here. I love technology and Dev, but I feel uncomfortable being seating all the time in one place
Yes it is hard for people who are not good at math (problem solving) to do programming. But, it's not really a forever thing. Perhaps after learning programming the level of problem solving skills also does increases and helps understand math better.
Ehhh I've always struggled with math.. I failed the intro math course, at my uni, 3 times while I passed the actual degree level papers for physics, biology, chemistry, and physiology. I can use logic, and I can problem solve (I was a plumber for over a decade as well) but I'm just not good at math.
I started programming about 6 months ago and I'm finding the mathematical parts to be MUCH easier than any math I tried to apply or study at uni.
You don't really need to understand the math to program a computer to calculate it for you. I mean, obviously, you need to KINDA understand it, but you don't need to be able to actually do the calculations yourself and remember the intricacies and whatnot. You just gotta understand what the steps are, for the equation, and how to translate those steps into something a computer can understand.
Knowing maths helps, but I suck at maths and that really hasn't hindered me.
This is so enlightening... it’s so rare that I hear IT advise that doesn’t do the hey-programming-is-great sorta thing!
Thanks man!
Thx bro! These questions helped me actually.
This was SUPER helpful. Thank you.
I do both so I dont have to make a choice :) Developer skills make for a comfy IT workflow
@@duarte2078 Learn a simple language like python or javascript first. Once you get some speed pick a project youre interested in and work on that. Doing the project will help you learn and practice while keeping you motivated
@@duarte2078I suggest learning C-sharp or Java, than moving on to C++. The other two are easier to step into and will help you better in understanding the basics of programming.
For sure Kev!
The video was helpful. Thank you.
The best video I've ever watched on youtube!
Thank you for this content its very helpful
I literally love this guy
I'm most likely going to do both. I'm into I.T. and I also have a license to develop for Nintendo.
Woah, the long lost uncle of every 3rd grader has finally come back. Ya damn deadbeat. Making us all look crazy.
Thank you soooo much this help me to know which field to pursue.I suck at Math...so IT it is 😊
Great video!
Tnx for the information 🎉❤
Thanks to you and everyone who've provided good information and advice in the comments here. I was a network administrator for 8 years but have been out of IT for more than ten years now. I'm seriously thinking about returning to IT, but have been wondering how I'd do if I went the developer route rather than going back to network/system admin.
You're welcome! Do whatever interests you!
Bro the video came out 3 years ago!🤣
@@silverrakhsh34 so did my comment! 🤣
@@NJbakintheday did you ever go back to IT?
@@coyotelife9732 No, I didn't. I work in the procurement field now.
Thanks
You Don't Need to Know/Be Good at Math for Programming; I would say that statement will only deter people rather than prompt them.
Most Programming Boot-camps which lead to very successful programmers Don't Teach you any kind of math.
That is, because you simply don't need to know Math.
I don't think that question should be included/brings truth to what programmers do.
Note: I have a BS in Computer Science, Work as a Programmer.
@@duarte2078 There are lots of Free resources, www.cybrary.it/ is a great resource. Problem of doing it without a degree or going to a boot camp is that you need to provide a reason why people need to look at you. Portfolio, a Github full of complex projects. I recommend starting from the ground up, slowly learning your basics from RUclips, Cybrary, then moving into more complex problems and build your base and portfolio.
@@pcantiscrubmovement44 I'm doing that too, self studying to learn web development, by watching RUclips videos, and reading PDFs of web development books. I also signed up for codingphase.com, which is about $10/ month, but there you will look learn by working through projects, and eventually put together a portfolio.
There is also a RUclips channel by the same guy, Joe Santos, and he talks about different things about becoming a web developer. If you go to his RUclips channel first, you should see links below any of his videos, for specials that he's currently running. No, I'm not getting paid to promote codingphase.com, I just think it's a great site for learning web development. Good luck!
You're right, I think I should have worded what I was thinking a little better.
I was worried about the math aspect of IT as I start university in September
I think he was talking about the mindset of learning math not the math itself. Like the process of finding a solution by either breaking it down or lookin at it from multiple angles
In school I started in IT then moved to Information Security and hacking and I ended up doing Secure Coding and building secure web apps and databases. I love it because of the complexity and because I work with datasets in my apps. And I am actually building a product. IT Networking meh that's going the way of the Dodoo with Ucas and the cloud. Soon there will be no networking jobs.
In my experience, doing college courses and online tutorials for developing is a nightmare. After school I have been looking for a job up to 6 months. Plus, you NEED a portfolio or github to give to possible employers. If they like your portfolio you will get the calls.
My experience with Network Technician was easier. STUDY the Network+ and CCNA! How do you get into this career path if you are unable to get experience? Someone you know is a possible tech nerd. Start off as a Help Desk technician. Work your way up to Network Technician specialist.
Maybe I did it wrong for development side and you don't need a degree, but you do NEED and IMPRESSIVE portfolio! I prefer job interviews where I don't have to talk about my portfolio projects and I just talk about my past job experiences.
Tnx so much
Remote or office could be a big issue, at least for me.
I took a programming course where we worked with Java in college, grant you I’m better with the hardware and software repair/general “IT” knowledge and technical aspect more than the complexities of coding but being good at math from what I can tell doesn’t help you with coding; I know you mean the “mindset” but unless you go specifically into something like data analytics or machine learning, I think the “math” mindset isn’t really relevant, coding is it’s own beast lol.
Network TAC works on really difficult issues. Lot of traffic analysis, configuration log analysis and learn so many protocols 😢
SW developers / programmers do not code / sitting behind computers 99% of a time. Maybe in junior positions in some companies when they have to gain as much experience as they can.
this video is great
This is a question that is currently causing me a lot of anxiety and, ultimately, depression. I started in school in Kinesiology but wound up in Computer Science. The goal was to become a software developer. I've struck different barricades to get the degree, but the idea for several years has to become some kind of developer. Lately I've been considering switching paths and finishing my degree in CyberOps to work in the field of cybersecurity. At some level, there is an interest in the field (particularly in information security and privacy).
Right now I've been stuck trying to figure out what path to take, and there are a number of fears keeping me from being able to move forward in any real capacity. Fear of failure. Fear of winding up in a career or position I ultimately hate. Fear of not being able to pivot into security or into software development from the position I wind up in. And a whole host of other fears.
Many are together in this dilemma myself included hope everyone figures out their true interest and on what they excel at. (3rd year student in computer science and telematics)
All you can do is try it and pivot after. Try to change that sorry into excitement.
Does anyone knows a free course or youtube videos that actually teach and show all the IT helpdesk tutorial kind of like they have for programming language? I have not found any tutorial on IT helpdesk to really prepare you to be job ready. The reason why im asking this is i stumble upon one of your old video showing how to use a tv as a monitor. I would really love if there are detail tutorial for IT helpdesk.
I am trying to get into the Cisco Networking side of IT, coming from a manufacturing background I have 0 experience in this career field. Currently I’m using Udemy and I’m stuck with trying to memorize the 802.3 Ethernet codes, how important are they? As in 100Base-T is referenced in the IEEE code 802.3u. Why do I need to memorize the EXACT location of this standard? Isn’t enough to know that it’s within the 802.3 standard and have the ability to reference and find it there when needed?
Really getting stuck here and discouraged!
Very nice video! I have a question as someone who is trying to find their path in IT is there a test on our knowledge or personality that we can do to see which part of IT best fits us? I like how you explained the programming side but I felt like it didnt explain the careers in IT. So I'm glad I know I dont wanna be a programmer now(thank you by the way) cause I'm not the best at math but now I'm looking for the best area for me in IT. The help would be very much appreciated! Thank you!
Hey! That is exactly what I would like to find! Have you encountered a test,etc.?? (Please do tell me) .How are you doing nowadays, in what field are you in?
I want to be a developer but due to circumstances including location, looks like I'll have to get into IT and transition and from there into development
I really love your shirt /s
I.T, Can be a Programmer/Software Engineer. IT is vast Huge! It can be a Cyber Security/Ethical Hacker,IT can be Everything that's why i love IT....
I’m looking to get into IT but not sure if I want to do programing side or the infrastructure side. I’m not the best at math but what little programming I’ve done I’ve really enjoyed. I’ve also had some experience with working in a server environment. Guess I’ll have to just experiment with it and see which one I enjoy more
Where are you now. What did you decide to do?
Currently I’m working in mortgages but I’m in school for Network Engineering
@@1234567shadowmanAwesome to hear. I hope everything goes well for you. Did you eventually decide not to go through with programming then?
@@gl702 yeah, I decided against programming because I felt like while it’s fun to do in my pass time i don’t want to be doing it for work. I’ve enjoyed the Networking side of things so far and it’s more in my wheelhouse since I’ve done some networking in the past
If I want to develop a career in Voiceover work later in life like voicing for games , instructional help videos , etc which path should I choose IT or Development?
What if I like programming but not into web dev/ dealing with visuals?
Hello, l am considering studying Masters in IT Management. How marketable is it and what certifications should l take since l do not have a background in IT
quick question, did you get your security+? or still studying? really want you to get it so i know am following the right people.
But I.T. Career Questions, I do both!! What can I do?
Hey zach I like 👍 your videos great job brother I'm confusing in my life can I get a job without experience?
Another question to ask is if “you have a habit of automating things you do on a regular basis” - a “do not repeat yourself” kind of mindset
This is me. I like to develop mental notes of problems I solved so I don’t repeat them and I’m able to utilize them to solve more complex problems. What does this mean?
Your videos helped me out ALOT I just landed two job offers! No Certs just nailed the interviews. My question is should I go with help desk at Compucom or Spectrum?
I have a question for you. Other than nailing your interview did you have previous experience in the job that helped you? Or are you a novice and just good at interviews?
Alejandro Marin I had 0 experience going in. Wouldn’t say I’m good at interviews but I went into the interviews dressed professionally and was prepared to be turned down which I was for the first 4 interviews. Best advice I can give to anyone here is dress professional, show confidence but don’t be cocky, and I can’t stress this enough really make it known what your goals are and where you plan to be in IT years from now. I had all my interviews say they were more focused on where I’m working to be at rather than where I’ve been I think this is key to entry level jobs in IT to get your foot in the door.
@@austinneubauer5878 thank you! And that's awesome, good for you! I'm currently going to school for computer sciences and plan on getting my A+certification soon
That’s great! In my area A+, CCNA, MCSE, and MCSA are in almost every job posting for anything higher than entry level help desk. Those are my goals. This company will pay for schooling and certifications which will be amazing
Woah!that's awesome! Do you mind me asking what company?
Which is the easiest and fastest to get started in? I hate my non-tech job now and want to get out quickly. I've been learning to code in my spare time but feel like I'm making too little progress. I also think I'm not very creative/artistic. I prefer work that's cut and dry, structured and clearly defined where I know exactly what I have to do.
I’m the same here but creatively is also something your can work on.
Learn Accounting.
What kind of math is used in programming?
Hi your video seems very inspiring and I have been trying to get into It for years at the back of my head. My question for today is if I start A+ certification today and buy exam where can I get the material to study can you please recommend me any current curriculum book or resource.
Thanks in advance.
There are a nearly infinite number of resources out there. You just have to find what works for you. Professor Messer on RUclips has some pretty good training videos. for numerous CompTIA exams.
After getting your career in IT what next?
you forgot python is the main!
I want to become a developer but I’d love an “entry level” job that actually pays a living wage, so I’m going to start with getting my CompTIA A+ for the IT route
Doesn't development start higher than most entry level IT?
@@JDMorris81 Yes. But the time someone will have to invest in learning multiple languages and frameworks/libraries along with building a strong profolio to become a web developer for an example will take much longer than grinding out a Comptia A+ certification in 1 - 3 months, easily landing a job in IT if you have great soft skills.
Disclaimer: I don't work in either profession, just researching as well.
@@3hornthrasher815 this is exactly what I’m doing right now. I’m forced into a career change, I want to be a SWE long term but I don’t have the time to sit in a boot camp or self study while not working. Getting A+, Net+ and Sec+ over the next 5-6 months and then going to do a part time bootcamp once I get to a solid IT role. Hopefully I can get around $45-50k, I have solid sales and customer service background so I should be able to get into help desk pretty easily with certifications.
1 behind a computer all day no
2 Are you good at math? Average
3 do you like solving complex issues ehh
4 can you see something true start to finish
Not really I have adhd unless I’m passionate about it
Five do you wanna make a lot of money yes
Thanks for video. Are their remote working opportunities in the IT path?
No
yes I like to sit in front of computer for a lot of time.... rather moving to diff places and do my task.
I work in school IT support. There are days where everything is slow (too slow) and I'm at my desk all day. Then some days, everything decides to break at once and everyone wants everything done yesterday so I have no time to sit down or take a break, or at least that's what it feels likes some days.
Can i do I.T and become a web developer
I heard that you would still need to do some programming even if you chose the IT infrastructure side of things, more specifically with networking. How difficult would you rate programming in networking is compared to programming in software development?
I wouldn't worry about the programming part if I were you. From my 10 years of experience you first have to understand the infra properly and then you can think about the programming, automation, infra as code etc. For me personally the coding in infra came naturally and was not as difficult as understanding the underlying tech. Can't compare to soft-dev as that's something I do not know. Hope this helps.
I think you mean scripting, its different from coding
Me opposite of you - I hate networking and infrastructure stuff
I have heard that cyber security field require a programming/software development background is that right from your point of view?
SDN is being requested more. However there aren't many qualified people who can deploy and maintain it. Learning software dev to automate and install patches in an SDN will make you HIGHLY VALUABLE AND SOUGHT AFTER
What do you mean by sdn?
I'm with you 100% I'm the same way. I can't stand programming.
Can you post a video on how to become a system admin.
You have many kind of admins,but I don't think you should focus on one title. That is the worst you can do. If you wanna be an ICT manager, try to get alround. Learn atleast the basics of Active Directory and domaim services,SQL,Exchange, Office365, WSUS, SCCM(last 2 can be skipped,but are more used at larger scaling company's). The more alround you are, the better you can become. Also make sure to know the basics of networking and on how IPv4 works. It's all connected with each other. If you don't understand how the servers and PC communicate with each other,you will never become a good admin.
Try to get your hands on Virtual Box, Vmware, software so you can create virtual machines,enough websites that have ISO's to download like windows server 2016 and windows 10. You can try out everything and sure keep exploring. Goodluck in youe journy mate.
Get MCSA & VCP . Apart from that to achieve knowledge on application development too
I think Wally nailed it in his comment, but I can still do a video on it
Where would you suggest to get the certification for A+? thanks
You can only get it by taking the A+ exams at an authorized Pearson Vue testing center. Though I also believe that they started allowing you to take tests at home due to the pandemic.
I'm very new to computer theory...What certification beside A+ should I do for IT career??? Is IT better than coding career??
IT is an extremely broad field so its not exactly possible to answer your question as is. If you're interested in computer networking, you may want to look at networking certifications like the CCNA or others. If you want to get into servers, there are certifications for that as well. Same thing with the cloud. There isn't a single path you have to take.
Whether IT is "better" is entirely subjective. They are 2 different technology paths. IT is generally more 'hands on' approach. Depending on your job, you may be fixing computers, both hardware or software wise if you're an IT tech. You may be dealing with end-users like resetting password, troubleshooting printing problems, etc. If you're a network person, instead of working with users directly, you may be working on the network, such as making sure your routers and switches are fine, etc.
Hi there,I want to work as a programmer.what are the pros and cons if I take Cis vs the traditional Comp Sci?
Why not both?
My chosen university offers Comp info Systems that has a concentration (software development or Network admin) once you get to your 3rd and 4th year .I chose software development and Im wondering what would be the pros and cons of it vs the traditional Comp sci
Try development. If your brain can't handle it or it isn't your jam then go for IT.
Simple as that.
I just finished high school I want to get into BS in Cybersecurity , then I googled it then I realized I can't get in Cybersecurity I should have some technical background and decoding, If I want to be in Cybersecurity filed do you recommend me to get into BS in Computer Science or IT ?
In which of these 2 fields is there more money?
I know this is nearly a year late. In general, there is more money to be made in the software development industry.
I need a script to take display names and get the users log on ID from AD any help with powershell anybody? Anyone.....
Should be doable. I'm away from my computer right now or else I'd look at this real quick for you but I can picture something.
docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/addsadministration/get-aduser?view=win10-ps
Learn to use documentation your question especially being powershell is easily Googleable. You should be able to make a working script in a few minutes.
@@wintesrain that is for 1 user. I usually have a list of at least 700+ users in a CSV file. I'm thinking of a script that can take the display name(lastname, firstname) or first.last or last.first name and return just their logon ID. Then add a little validation for returning a value of the name is not found.
Or I could concatenate the script with users name in the csv file with the get ADuser script and paste onto powershell?
@@cu806 You can easily scale up with it. Have you made scripts before? PowerShell scripts are some of the most braindead to create because of the wealth of documentation.
Not trying to be rude I gave you the first piece but it really shouldn't be that hard to do. I've done similar tasks in minutes.
@@wintesrain I made my first powershell script yesterday yo get users of an AD group and some of their information took me 3 hours lol.
Developer of course , unless you want to be stand by 24/7 to run to server rooms for network and server problems.
Some people love that. Networking is great.
@@anthonycampbell97 Of course networking is great. But does it worth it to be called 24/7 to fix problems? Also , if a critical server goes down ( for example if a server motherboard fails), the network/sys Admin is expected to fix the problem instantly.
@@geov.1052 You always have a SLA that stated your response time to react to the call, than you have time to solve the problem. It really depends on where you work and for who you work that require to be active 24/7, you are not alone. There is almost a second administrator that can also be called.
Depends on where/who you work for.
IT isn't for everyone, that's for sure.
If you have the aptitude and desire, be a developer.
wait a minute! do u all mean that IT is another field and not programming? so I can use my loving for computers and dealing with artificial things in another way than just setting and code things ? I always get bored when i think of being a coder who just set and build a game or an app but I always love the idea of understanding how technology works and solving the technology problems itself, I love solving problems depending on technology knowledge not coding knowloedge, i love being the geek who understands how technology works and acutelly make it work not the coding geek who knows the rules for all the programming languages.
i hope i got it right, but i need to know what IT careers is there that is not just about seting on a chair and coding ?
Yeah. There are many sub-fields in the IT industry. In general, IT jobs don't really require any programming at all. You're pretty much using pre-built software and more or less configuring it for your needs or that of the place you work for. For instance, you may have a business that runs a Windows domain environment where you have multiple domain controllers and other servers that control various parts of the IT infrastructure such as printing, file sharing, network access, etc.
Why is this dudes face warp sideways half the video?
"A few of the more popular programming languages c++, etc..."
python: "I'm a a joke to you?"
Programming is the best thing in IT. Programming is real IT
Alright yo, don’t ask me to fix when the servers get shut down next time
You don't need math to be good at programming. That's such a dangerous misconception you are steering a ton of people off of what could be a lucrative and fulfilling career.
You do need to be capable though.
i mean programming is large tho depends on what job did you pick
@@Laevatei1nn nice profile pic
@@dewdop thanks
It would be better to ask whether someone is analytical, enjoys puzzles, logic problems. I avoided programming for years because I thought I needed to be "good at math" which I never was, but when I finally tried it I loved it and had no problem. A friend of mine who is a university CS teacher says he finds that students with literature or philosophy backgrounds do very well with programming as they come with a strong analytical foundation and tend to quickly see how the parts relate to the whole. Personally I think it's a lot like knitting.
You don't have to be good at math to become a programmer. That is a huge myth. You do, however, have to learn how to think logically and develop the patience to read code.
Yup all you need is you know how to solve problem... More on strategies ang logic
Devs are IT...
Devs works on software. They do not work on hardware. IT mostly handles working with hardware or answering phones to resolve customers issues.
Software devs does none of that, other then just solve bugs in the software program.
If you work in IT and can program, people look at you like a fucking God.
I know English language
Im finish IT network administration, but i dont like is you talk to a bullshit people that didnt understand IT and all department is all your boss why?when someones call to fix their computer and all its feels like they are all your boss, so i want to shift in programming which is more fun, you can create a very useful tools to be beneficial in company and users, plus you cannot talk to a bunch of shit people