Great video. Plate carriers should be set up to fit the situation. Never saw an issue with running 6 mags up front in an urban environment, you’re not going to get in the prone most of the time. As for rural environments, I see the value of running a slick 3 mag front where you’re likely to drop in the prone. Take in all the information from helpful videos like this and evaluate whether it suits the needs of your mission. You won’t look cool if you’re dead. Stay dangerous dudes 🇺🇸.
I like the direction forge is going here, could maybe run the back 3 with kydex inserts, and the 3 in front with a soft insert. The soft insert will compress in prone if it is empty, so you can functionally have a 3 mag placard just by leaving the front row empty. I don't like to make blanket statements about rural / urban environments though, it often doesnt work out that way in practice.
Damn. The most realistic and useful breakdown I’ve seen. Damn. Common sense. Thank you sir, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for and of course it’s not going to be exactly like your bc we are all different but. This just so close to home of how I would run it and nice to see it makes sense.🇺🇸
You're totally right about the mission purpose dictating gear. I run a jpc w a ferro admin pouch and have the ability to throw my recce rig from onward concepts on top to plus up. I also run a hobosak, bfg small truama kit and crye double mag pouch on the ready rig to round out my combat load.
Just subbed, you have one of the best planned out carrier setups out there. You put a lot of logical thought into your setup. I will be placing an order for some of the gear on your website, very simple well thought out options to make your carrier work better for you. I like how versitale your setup is, that is what I am aiming for. I like having the options of going slick but also being able to load up if need be.
Awesome shake down. I wish more people did this. I’m debating the rear assault panel and I also have the mystery ranch 3DAP that I run with my PC. Good to know that even with the panel the pack will ride over it fine. It’s a huge debate and to me you never know what situations you will be in and who will be with you so worst case you take to PC off real quick and pull your essentials and move them in a pouch on the front of carrier. I’m sure something I said will be wrong but this is my thoughts
Glad it was helpful. And yea, it really just depends on the mission and what I'm doing. This week, for example, I only ran the back panel and used it a ton.
you can also just add back panel zippers to the rear of your 3DAP, so that the back panel can live on the pack rather than your back while you’re rucking.
Good setup. The ability to plus up on mags is a big one to me. In the last few years I have three on my front then the rest I have to figure out. I’m more like grunt perspective since I am also a grunt too.
@@forge_concepts 100% a fan of it. I just dont need a few things you have and need a few things you dont. To me its about the principles of your kit as much as it is about the specific pouches
Very nice plate carrier setup, now let's see Paul Allens kit shakedown. (Please make a belt setup, helmet setup and clothing setup in the future?) ((Love gettings ideas, or tips and tricks from the shakedown videos).
if a guys carrying tape for just in case, wrap the tape around your lighter (or other item\s) saves carrying a full roll or even just to have a bit as a backup
That was a custom thing we did in the shop. I'm not currently aware of a placard that offers that same functionality, but would love to know if there is one.
Is that the AXL SPC Tubes Adapter that you're using for your Cummerbund? I just got a JPC 2.0 and couldn't find anywhere what I needed for the male tube
It's one I sewed up in the shop. Same concept as their adapter I just angled the attachment points a bit to counteract any sag. Their adapters are solid and I believe a couple other companies sell them as well (which is why we don't offer them)
Thank you! The link is in the description but here it is: www.forge-concepts.com/products/routing-tabs We're working hard on a restock...we've had a hard time keeping up with y'alls demand, which we really appreciate.
Why not route the cable for your rear mounted radio internally? There is a hole behind the placard release buckle and in the plate bags by the shoulder straps exactly for this purpose then just pop it out the cummerbund gap and into your radio.
For sure - I've just had bad experiences with them and prefer EPDM ones or shock cord for durability. Either way, PCI/PCCs are a must, regardless of how robust kit is.
Base your mag count on how far your going. I’ll use my rig for 3 different situations. 1-Home defense 2-Headed to get supplies 3-Having to evacuate In those situations you can figure the ammo count you’ll need. The longer away the more you’ll need. Whoever has the most ammo wins.
Small/Medium. It depends on the plate carrier and how you mount the male tubes attachment. This is on a Spiritus LV119 on a 6' 200# guy with plenty of room to adjust.
I have no idea how many mags you need in a war zone. When I hit a dope trailer/house, I have 1 in the gun, 1 on my belt, and maybe 1 more on my plate carrier. If it's too tight for a long gun, I don't take any.
Sir, I see the video is about a year old so I’m late to the party but that tourniquet on the right side of the PC, with the white tab, looks to be a fake TQ. The left side looks real. Just get that checked if you’re still running it. I’d need a closer look to see if it’s real or not or just an older gen CAT, but still - check that out. Be safe.
Haha absolutely man. Since this video I've made a good number of changes just from changing requirements + more testing and experimenting. Definitely need to put out a new video at some point, but the same general ideas apply. Appreciate the comment!
Good call on the flag. There's usually a team patch there and just slapped one on for the video. Regarding bulk, that may be true for your needs, but it isn't for mine. This kit fits my needs, which including being in pretty small paces on ships and I've yet to have an issue with it being too bulky. I obviously wear a battle belt, which we'll go over in another video, but this kit fits my needs. I hope you found something useful in this video, if not, thanks for watching anyway. The goal of this is just to share some ideas with y'all.
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Damn that pouch that goes behind the placard is legit. I could fit my fruit snacks and crayons in there.
The velcro wing for micro adjuments is a life saver, setting up the AXL cummberbun is a little bit of abitch to keep doingover and over.
Totally agreed!
Awesome breakdown.
Appreciate it, thank you!
Great video. Plate carriers should be set up to fit the situation. Never saw an issue with running 6 mags up front in an urban environment, you’re not going to get in the prone most of the time. As for rural environments, I see the value of running a slick 3 mag front where you’re likely to drop in the prone. Take in all the information from helpful videos like this and evaluate whether it suits the needs of your mission. You won’t look cool if you’re dead. Stay dangerous dudes 🇺🇸.
Agreed. Thanks you!
I agree, train in said environment and change the kit as needed
I like the direction forge is going here, could maybe run the back 3 with kydex inserts, and the 3 in front with a soft insert. The soft insert will compress in prone if it is empty, so you can functionally have a 3 mag placard just by leaving the front row empty.
I don't like to make blanket statements about rural / urban environments though, it often doesnt work out that way in practice.
One of the best videos i've seen on setup. Great work man.
Thank you. We'll try to do more from the other dudes.
@@forge_conceptswhat are the GRG things you said you keep in one of your pouches
@@sigspearthumb1056 GRGs are grid reference guides. Just a way of marking structures or other things on a map.
Damn. The most realistic and useful breakdown I’ve seen. Damn. Common sense. Thank you sir, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for and of course it’s not going to be exactly like your bc we are all different but. This just so close to home of how I would run it and nice to see it makes sense.🇺🇸
Really appreciate the comment man I'm glad you found it helpful
@@forge_concepts absolutely, You keep it up man thank you
You're totally right about the mission purpose dictating gear. I run a jpc w a ferro admin pouch and have the ability to throw my recce rig from onward concepts on top to plus up. I also run a hobosak, bfg small truama kit and crye double mag pouch on the ready rig to round out my combat load.
Huge having the ability to scale up or down as needed.
Just subbed, you have one of the best planned out carrier setups out there. You put a lot of logical thought into your setup. I will be placing an order for some of the gear on your website, very simple well thought out options to make your carrier work better for you. I like how versitale your setup is, that is what I am aiming for. I like having the options of going slick but also being able to load up if need be.
Thank you! Genuinely appreciate the support.
Awesome shake down. I wish more people did this. I’m debating the rear assault panel and I also have the mystery ranch 3DAP that I run with my PC. Good to know that even with the panel the pack will ride over it fine. It’s a huge debate and to me you never know what situations you will be in and who will be with you so worst case you take to PC off real quick and pull your essentials and move them in a pouch on the front of carrier. I’m sure something I said will be wrong but this is my thoughts
Glad it was helpful. And yea, it really just depends on the mission and what I'm doing. This week, for example, I only ran the back panel and used it a ton.
you can also just add back panel zippers to the rear of your 3DAP, so that the back panel can live on the pack rather than your back while you’re rucking.
Best video on this topic!
Appreciate it!
Good setup. The ability to plus up on mags is a big one to me. In the last few years I have three on my front then the rest I have to figure out. I’m more like grunt perspective since I am also a grunt too.
Thank you. Hopefully you still found this valuable
@@forge_concepts 100% a fan of it. I just dont need a few things you have and need a few things you dont. To me its about the principles of your kit as much as it is about the specific pouches
@@ironteacup2569 absolutely
Another option for plussing up on mags is a good ole fashioned 6 mag bandolier. Just stick it in your backpack or back panel.
I like this kind of content, sweet shakedown
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it.
Learned some new tricks appreciate the knowledge
Awesome, thank you for watching!
Damn good video bro! 🔥
Appreciate it, glad you found it valuable!
Damn I need to update my plate carrier and get lighter plates. good video and lots of good info
Glad you found it useful!
Very nice plate carrier set up!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video.
Nice set up and nice video!
Thank you
Very nice plate carrier setup, now let's see Paul Allens kit shakedown.
(Please make a belt setup, helmet setup and clothing setup in the future?) ((Love gettings ideas, or tips and tricks from the shakedown videos).
We'll definitely do helmet and belt in the coming months.
Great, valuable video
Thanks!
if a guys carrying tape for just in case, wrap the tape around your lighter (or other item\s) saves carrying a full roll or even just to have a bit as a backup
I like the tabs you added to the ten speed pouches. Where do I find those tabs to sew on?
That was a custom thing we did in the shop. I'm not currently aware of a placard that offers that same functionality, but would love to know if there is one.
Is that the AXL SPC Tubes Adapter that you're using for your Cummerbund? I just got a JPC 2.0 and couldn't find anywhere what I needed for the male tube
It's one I sewed up in the shop. Same concept as their adapter I just angled the attachment points a bit to counteract any sag. Their adapters are solid and I believe a couple other companies sell them as well (which is why we don't offer them)
Amazing breakdown.. but drop the link for the routing tabs?!
Thank you! The link is in the description but here it is: www.forge-concepts.com/products/routing-tabs We're working hard on a restock...we've had a hard time keeping up with y'alls demand, which we really appreciate.
Why not route the cable for your rear mounted radio internally? There is a hole behind the placard release buckle and in the plate bags by the shoulder straps exactly for this purpose then just pop it out the cummerbund gap and into your radio.
I only run dual radios ~20% of the time. When I'm not I like to easily take off the cabling.
I'm wondering if Invisio V60 cable is compatible with older X50's. From I've seen X50 cable has spring mechanism to disengage, while V60 does not.
Not sure, we went from peltor PTTs to these. Knowing Invisio they're not compatible...they make a killing on proprietary cables
Solid setup. I've ran regular rubber bands for CATs for my entire career.....they do break....but solid PCI/PCCs catch those type of issues.
For sure - I've just had bad experiences with them and prefer EPDM ones or shock cord for durability. Either way, PCI/PCCs are a must, regardless of how robust kit is.
Lets see some belt kit as well.
Stay tuned! We are planning on doing more kit breakdowns including belts.
Base your mag count on how far your going. I’ll use my rig for 3 different situations.
1-Home defense
2-Headed to get supplies
3-Having to evacuate
In those situations you can figure the ammo count you’ll need. The longer away the more you’ll need. Whoever has the most ammo wins.
Wow I wouldn’t have EVER thought of that!!!
i have 6 just because FAFO lol but no i agree. i think it depends on the situation and the time you think you'll spend out and about.
Heard the ferro radio pouch is decent too
Definitely interested in trying it out.
What size cummerbunds are those? I’ve seen a lot of conflicting word on which size to get.
Small/Medium. It depends on the plate carrier and how you mount the male tubes attachment. This is on a Spiritus LV119 on a 6' 200# guy with plenty of room to adjust.
what's the weight of this setup?
When I'm fully loaded with my usual (3 mags + bangers, and two radios) 35ish pounds. With smoke, bladder, and more in my back panel 45ish.
I have no idea how many mags you need in a war zone. When I hit a dope trailer/house, I have 1 in the gun, 1 on my belt, and maybe 1 more on my plate carrier.
If it's too tight for a long gun, I don't take any.
what plates do you run?
Issued SOCOM SPEAR plates
Should have put it on for show but good video
Can do in the future. Just trying to keep face/identity out of it.
@@forge_concepts wear a ski mask
@@Jeff-xv6gkI know of another guy that used to wear a balaclava. LOL
Sir, I see the video is about a year old so I’m late to the party but that tourniquet on the right side of the PC, with the white tab, looks to be a fake TQ. The left side looks real.
Just get that checked if you’re still running it. I’d need a closer look to see if it’s real or not or just an older gen CAT, but still - check that out.
Be safe.
Appreciate the note! It was an older gen cat. We keep some of those on hand for training ones, but not for actual use. Thank you again sir!
3:45 if 99% of the dudes commenting about this sort of stuff did that they'd have absolutely nothing left to talk about...
Haha absolutely man. Since this video I've made a good number of changes just from changing requirements + more testing and experimenting. Definitely need to put out a new video at some point, but the same general ideas apply.
Appreciate the comment!
😅🤦👌
Rah
combat load out
Haha yeah, you can literally hear me pause as i forget the term and then use the wrong one.
Your flag is backwards. You have way too much crap on there. Too bulky. You need a battle belt to spread out the load.
Good call on the flag. There's usually a team patch there and just slapped one on for the video. Regarding bulk, that may be true for your needs, but it isn't for mine. This kit fits my needs, which including being in pretty small paces on ships and I've yet to have an issue with it being too bulky. I obviously wear a battle belt, which we'll go over in another video, but this kit fits my needs. I hope you found something useful in this video, if not, thanks for watching anyway. The goal of this is just to share some ideas with y'all.
Dude who runs 6 up front? Atomically a fail 💯and i question your level of gear knowledge.
Did you watch the rest of that section explaining the variance in carrying mags?
@@forge_concepts He did, he's just trolling.
Also, where’d you get those dropper bottles? The CLP bottles in my rod kits leak like crazy
Amazon. Look for eye dropper bottles