Tubular Nylon Applications, Spiritus Systems
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2022
- We get a lot of questions when coils of tubular Nylon make an appearance on LV/119 kit in our media. In this video Fred, our Director of Research and Development, goes over a few of the reasons why this versatile item can be extremely useful in combat operations.
Tubular nylon can be coiled and lashed to the side of our LV/119 Assault Back Panel, or on one of the columns of our MOLLE back panel with a Spiritus Bungee Flag Holder.
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Thank you for the video
Want to say this is great information, will be adding this to my sustainment kit and vehicle, so many uses. Any specific brand you trust with the nylon? Also did not get notified for this video at all sadly, wondering if your blacklisted on here as well
What is the recommended length for that nylon?
I see you said standard is 20ft and you carry 30ft. Would you recommend over 30ft or just if you have extra make a couple 30ft ones?
Is your nylon a sling? (A complete circle with bar tack connections) or did you just square knot the ends together a few times?
AND
Where can I get it?
As a firefighter I can't stress enough how useful this tubular nylon is to have on your kit. We utilize it all the time for victim removal, awesome to see it being used in the tactical world as well!
Just used mine 3 nights ago...
I was just about to say I just learned about it in academy!!
@@AmericanMinuteman95 Another FF here, amen! In my experience it is deemed sacrilegious to not have nylon webbing in your turnouts.
Is there any reason why you use it instead of rope?
@@somethinganything4864 Great question! It's wider. We tried rope but the webbing works the best. (I should say rope will also work, but webbing is smaller in a roll).
So who else is here because of dad's video?
Came looking for other Garand thumb peoples too.
Me
Same here
Yup lol
Yep!
Free, educational , life saving tips. What RUclips should be , thank you so much for sharing.
You're very welcome!
I’m a rock climber with some mountain SAR experience. I was taught a similar protocol but using slings instead of webbing. Slings are essentially just webbing that have been pre-sewn into loops. It makes it easier to equalize the load and allows you to secure the casualty without having to tie any knots.
i concur
Yep, this is just a new paint job on an old car.
couldn't you reference this please? I'd like to know how many of what sizes, and the procedure. I have a good idea of how to make simple chest and waist harness..but not a good way to distribute inorder to drag and move.
@@x.grover.x9786 If you're looking for a good reference on procedures I'd recommend researching crevasse rescue. As a civilian its much different than combat search & rescue because we're not trying to evacuate a casualty under fire.
The technique varies based on the situation, evacuating someone who's conscious and participating in their own rescue is much different than trying to get someone onto a board.
Learning crevasse rescue techniques will also teach you how to move yourself, should you ever have to.
*The primary difference being most patient extractions in a military setting will be to drag or lift off the ground, whereas rock climbers will be more likely in need of just belaying the patient.*
I would like to thank Lt Dan for "standing" in to help you demonstrate.
Funny you said that because this whole video made me think this tubular nylon bs is dumb af. If you need to get someone out then do like Forrest and pick them up and take them out. Obviously take out any threats first or you might catch a round in your buttcheek. lol Point is if your a man you should be able to pick someone up and carry them to safety. If they're 300 lbs then don't bother picking them up or dragging them out. Priority should be taking out the threat or threats that shot him in the first place.
Ok genius, how about after you've taken out your threats. You're on a hillside with a person in full kit. They have a spinal injury. They're hemorrhaging. "Just drag them out bro" moron
@@AR-vd3pb In modern combat a fully loaded Soldier or Marine may actually weigh near 300 lbs with all his gear. You can strip some of it off but you'll want to keep the body armor on when bullets and shit are flying everywhere. Some items like weapons, explosives, and NVGs are not something your command wants you to leave behind. (Only the POTUS gets to do that.) Even if you prioritize killing the enemy over evacuating your buddy, your buddy still needs an evacuation when the enemy's dead. And you have LESS of an excuse to leave his shit behind. It's bad enough if he's on the ground. What happens if he's up a 3 story building and the stairs are mostly choked with rubble? Tubular webbing is a solution.
@@EricDaMAJ Yeah I see how it could be helpful in a military combat situation but I'm talking about carrying it and using it as a civilian. For military use I would prefer a system easier to use than just tubular nylon. If you need to drag someone to safety then drag them by their plate carrier. If you need to pick them up then pick them up. If you need to carry them then use something designed for that like an injured personnel carrier (IPC). Which is basically the same thing as this tubular nylon product but easier to use.
@@AR-vd3pb I think you should try dragging or picking someone up in a plate carrier before you say "just do it."
Pro Tip: Have your Riggers sew 12” half twist loop in one end. It’ll make a smooth girth hitch in a captive eye biner, it’s handy if you have to repel or hoist, you never have to cut it or mess around with a knot when you’re trying to go fast, etc.
Good one Jack, Used it a few times.
Definitely going to do this
Just put a twist in it when you tie it and it will do the same thing.
If you don’t have Riggers, and you do have time, tie all the knots you want… But if time is at a premium, you’re not worried about a smooth tight roll, and you don’t have to worry about cold stiff fingers, tie all the knots you want. But make sure it has a long tail or a half hitch because when it gets wet, that knot will walk under stress.
@@jackjmaheriii you talking about sewing the ends togther and a section at the half-way? If so im going to have to check that out. Just found a video for a X box stitch thats worth 1600lbs before it broke in the testing machine. Im trying to get everything i can to make my stuff as effective as possible.
Another informative video. Thanks for making these longer videos covering the who, what, where, when & why behind equipment you choose to carry. It definitely helps guys like me who weren't in the military but love to learn new methods of doing things. Keep up the great work fellas.
Honestly been waiting for this video ever since Fred’s first video giving a run through of his kit. Thanks guys.
favorite! Just reworking my setup, bout 2 weeks now, perfect timing for the refreshing, thanks guys!
This is an amazing video.
I remember practicing these WITHOUT the nylon strap. It was very challenging carrying battle-buddies 1.5 times my weight. I can see these methods making the effort more efficient.
Great demonstration.
Thank you! You are helping me keep my battles safer and sound.
Glad it was helpful!
Fred is a wealth of knowledge love his videos like this
I got a couple hundred yard roll for my soldiers (USAR). Being a full time firefighter tube webbing is one of my favorite pieces of equipment.
@@ReanuKeevesAus Army Reserve
I had one of those hoses with this stuff around it (like $30 at Walmart years ago), and the interior hose busted, so I cut the ends, and pulled this stuff off the outside of it and washed it all out, and now I have 100ft of this tubular nylon, and it is tough stuff. I've been using it for all kinds of purposes. It's extremely abrasion resistant and just very useful all around. After 3 years of using that hose, dragging it across the yard, etc. the stuff still looks brand new with no noticeable abrasions or cuts or wear anywhere on it. It's pretty amazing.
This is a great system. We used a similar type system extracting injured people in alpine situations that were in a dangerous location (in our situation avalanche, cliffs, falling rocks, etc.) and where spine trauma was not a concern or had been addressed by a KED or other like equipment.
Thanks for this amazing demonstration! I appreciate you sharing that knowledge a ton!
The best performed by the best. Revision is always helpful. Cheers mate.
I would give up a lot just to spend a day with you. All of the knowledge you have I want.
Have used this in technical search and rescue, specifically with rock climbing casualty extraction. I'd recommend people venturing out into the unknown add this to their kit! Even if you can't use it alone, having it set up expedites the rescue process!!!
I just received the micro fight chassis MK4 from you guys and I absolutely love it. Keep doing what your doing guys!
Awesome! Thank you
tubular nylon is probably as comfortable as it gets, flat webbing ends up loading up on the edges creating cuts/abrasions/hot points, where as tubular, the load 'rolls' limiting the peak forces
thank you for the clarification
Slings emphasize this reality a lot. Even a 1" tubular is more comfortable than a 1.5" flat sling, especially once the rifle gets heavy. Tubular is just great.
Garand Thumb on his urban ops video said this was a great video for Tubular Nylon application & he was right on the money. Great info on the vid….
Thanks 👍
2:00 can attest to that. Did some training on occasion where I dragged someone using the PC handle. Made the situation much more difficult than if I had a little extra distance between me and the simulated casualty.
In the fire service, we used tubular webbing to drag victims, create a hasty seat to rappel out a window if needed, to hoist tools, to attach to ankles when going into confined spaces like culverts, and to secure to charged hose lines to help move, anchor, or manipulate them. Tubular webbing is a must have!
Thanks for the video! And thank you Mr. Thumb for recommending it!
That was...deep. I can tell this dude trained and performed this, maybe more than once. Good chit bro. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Indeed. He was a tier 1 operator in the 24th stg
Outstanding, love what you patriots do!
Thanks for knowledge. Really appreciate the What, Where, Why videos.
Great video, thanks, Blessings to you and your family my brother in Arms.
Nicely done my man. I love that you don't do the hooyah motivation BS. Calm great pace, informative- I can tell you've done some instructing before :)
Great info! Please keep these coming.
Outstanding Presentation on the Unconventional use of Tubular Webbing.
Had to watch this several times to get it right and practice it.
Great video. Now I fully understand why people like yourselves and Pat Mac have tubular nylon on your kits at all times.
Thanks for some more uses for the 30ft of tubular webbing I carry in my sar kit. I have used it for z drag anchor and a makeshift harness.
Great video. One thing missing that I would add, how to tie the water knot. Keep up the good work!
Beer knot's better, but both have their uses.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Tubular nylon is tough, but pronouncing "tubular nylon" on camera over and over is tougher. Great work.
When he demonstrated the 6 man carry configuration you could also use if available two large ish branches through the hand loops to create more of a ridged platform.
My last comment was shitting on you and RUclips deleted it I'm pissed yee yee ass radio marine
It would probably be a good idea to practice these several times so you know exactly what you want to do before you get in a place where you need it. I remember I used to practice rappelling/climbing knots with my son when he was around 10 or 12 yrs old so i could hold him up and see how well the knots would hold. He loved being suspended 2 or 3 foot off the ground from a tree limb in a climbing harness. lol.
gdamn those carabiners sounding crisp, fantastic video on alternate carries
That was slick. Never seen before. Cost vs benefit is huge. Low cost, low weight, minimal training and greatly increases your buddy's chances.
Ha, I went through a training school when I was active duty with Fred. I always wondered what happened to him, crazy I found him here.
Been carrying the exact setup, 30ft with a locking carabiner. Tubular nylon is awesome and dirt cheap.
@Killa civilian/reservist in a war zone
I have a summit harness with my climbing setup lineman's belt and 2 25 foot lengths of climbing rope to set up safety line's or to repel if needed that I like to carry with my mountain gear but all can be used for different things if needed, good to have with all load out bag's if can fit.. but if not this stuff, some clips and knowing your knots will come in handy!
Former infantry medic; it reminds me of the NAR RAT strap, but a bit more versatile, which is nice.
Good timing Im putting a DARC strap on my PC right now.
I wondered what I should do with all the leftover tubular nylon.
Thanks for sharing this educating video. I searched some commercial, rigged tubular nylon but the length of many seems not be enough. DIY one would be a better option. Talking about how you make those knots to close your tubular nylon could be really helpful.
Thank you for teaching and posting
Any time
*the firefigher in me*
"Ah yes, finally something i can relate to.."
Great talk and demos. Thank you. (Edit: Subscribed.)
Thank you!
Excellent instructional video, thank you. I'll learn to use it in case of natural disaster emergency. 👍
Ah, welcome to the fire service. Good to see you guys here!
Thank you 😊
Thanks big guy. Nice info.
Really fucking wish I had seen this video when I was a squad leader. Thanks for putting this info out there man 🤙🏻
Really good never seen that before.
Fred is the man
This is fantastic!! Hey, another option is to send a robot or a drone it works for Amazon/ Well, not the body drag, but you will get your package the next day 🤣
1st drag we call a 7 (firefighter). 2nd we call a hasty harness.
I keep a 20 foot tubular webbing with a water knot in my gear.
But by far without question my favorite webbing is the Anderson Rescue MLRS. Nothing better for drags or improvised harnesses and for self rescue.
Also for a litter drag in the field, I highly recommend a mega mover folded in your gear. I’ve moved hundreds of people of all sizes with one.
CMC Certified Technical Rescue Technician II.
While rocking the Tribe Sk8z hoodie, hell yeah
Garand thumb sent me...
Me, too.
GT sent me here
This is the video I've been waiting on. As a firefighter I could never understand why tactical guys never carry it. I carry on my Haley Flatpack and I get comments on my channel ALL THE TIME of people saying that's stupid or asking why I carry it. I am about to do a video on it myself
I was taught to carry it as a firefighter. Where are you using/wearing the Flatpack?
@@deepblack1 so the flatpack is my emergency bag. Heavily trauma related with some rescue. It's built to go with my plate carrier in an active shooter situation or worn alone in case of mass casualty (collapse, MVC, Bomb, etc...)
Pretty slick part of your kit
This is neat!
Dam what a awesome video!!! You made it look so simple. Thank you for the great info!!!!
Glad you liked it!!
I don't know about tubular nylon but I always make sure to use tubular latex when I'm tapping it
Good stuff.
This dudes awesome.
We used these in my technical rescue team, mostly use them for victim extraction or helping with anchors.
Great info.
Thanks for watching!
THIS SHIBARI COURSE INTENSE
As more of the global population moves to live in urban centers the more likely we would need to hoist / lower casualties in vertical terrain (buildings, roofs, retaining wall, bridges, stairwells, subway tunnels etc.)
Totally tubular 🤙
Having used rope to hoist and move large heavy objects, this stuff is way more durable. Gonna pick some up ASAP
And thanks for the info!
Thanks
thanks for the information, I really hope I don't have to consider doing this to one of my friends in a few years, but if I do I have some background
Your my boy Spiritus ❤
Totally tubular!!!
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Says you're not :(
@@SpiritusSystems really?!? Wtf RUclips. I just checked and it says I'm subbed. Interesting how this platform works huh?? Bastards.
Great video Fred! Don't know how Mr. Herman got his name, but I'm thinking a name change to Lt. Dan.
Thanks for that informativ video.
How do you support the head? Isn‘t it hanging/banging around and falling back?
That’s badass
We had an SOP of wearing a one inch climbing strap as a harness under our plate carrier. You can just use it as a strap handle and in an emergency clip someone to a hoist.
Kewl man!
I carry tubular nylon in the DARC knot drag handle on my carrier. Total cost was like 12 bones. Worth every penny
In LMAO in the climbing community it's termed tube webbing, 1"".
And it is a main stay of rigged up harnesses for climbing, repelling, between cams, or pitons and caribiners setting fall protection, or repelling ropes, or a multitude of other uses.
I would suggest any one doing tactical movements think 3D as in up and down and get a mountain or rock climbing hand book.
Webbing rope 'biners figure 8's and knots could give you a winning edge, or save your life.
Just FYI.
Hi, it's rappelling not repelling 👌
Nobody cares what they call it.
@@brentsproc 👍I give a wide berth for tiny buttons and autocorrect.
Did me an educate.👍
Back when Magpul was making their ms2 slings from tubular nylon i went and bought a bunch out of curiosity. Its uses are unparalleled. Only issues is that it can fray overtime depending on its uses.
That’s tubular 🤟🏼🤙🏼
"You can learn a lot from a dummy" 😆
Is the Spiritus drag handle he described still being sold?
As a FF, webbing is life..very versatile.. from victim removal to moving charged 5"
What's a good length to carry with you? For general stuff like shown
I feel you bro 🙄 3:39
Sorry if I keep missing it, I've watched the presentation twice now. But what is the desired length of the strap? Is tying a knot in it sufficient for most applications or is investing in a presewn loop worth it if you don't have access to a sewing machine that can go through two layers of tubing?
The average is about 20-50ft. Its in the video
Water knot is to be used.
Question with daisy chaining tubular nylon: any sort of difference to make it compact? Used to daisy chaining long electrical lines, and we kept the loops wide.
If you have to pull or move something that could go boom or is on fire it’s way better to do it at the end of a rope. Good stuff
Is this tubular nylon on the website? I don't see it or the link