I have my general license... I’m telling everyone, programming a baofeng is actually quicker and easier than a lot of the other super expensive radios like Yaesu and Kenwood!!! I usually recommend a baofeng to everyone for their first radio. Like you said, start cheap, outgrow the radio and then move into expensive ones.
Absolutely. Chirp compatibility is basically a must for me now. Some people want an expensive radio...that they don't use. I'd rather seen a baofeng that died from overuse. Great input! -Walsh
Hey, is there a way to get your ham license _without_ having to doxx yourself in the process with all your personal info publicly accessible in the FTC and ARRL sites?
One thing to remember, put your radio where you can reach it so you can change channels if your comms are compromised, and put the PTT button where you can push it with your off hand, not the hand that holds the gun. I am right hand dominate, so all of my comms stuff tends to be towards my left hand. Another way to help protect your comms for short distances, and not be triangulated, is to use a mesh network device. I am using GoTenna because there are many out there to help bounce a signal, the app is already on the app stores, and it uses end-to-end encryption to send text messages. Mesh dont use any infrastructure to operate, just think of them as a cheap radio with limited range (think Baofeng) that sends texts. Great video.
I thought the app store turned that feature off because of the CCP told them to over the covid riots in China CCP learned there lesson in the Hong Kong massacre
@@ThinLineDefenseCo The only question that I have after all of this that can I use setups like this for communication between units with dedicated radio operators in each unit. Or me and my teammates are gonna need another setup and these setups are only good for communication inside a small unit?
That depends on the unit. They could be using digital truncated which would require specific radios and specific coding. MOST likely you'd need another radio and as long as you can hook it into a PTT, you should be fine. Some units may use a PRC152 though and you could run on their frequency but it would still likely required coding for specific settings. Ultimately the answer it....it depends. I'd plan on needing an different radio when going from civilian to mil units. -Walsh
Great video! Very informative for nubies! Personally I like the Bowman PRR setup. Frequency hopping in the 2.4 GHz ISSM band. Squad spec. Short range up to 900 meters LOS. It will also screwup Bluetooth and WiFi comms of others who go for some of the gear based on those frequencies. Radio utilizes a single earpiece headphone style system with a condenser microphone. Held to ones head with a strap system that can be used under almost helmet system. PTT is on the side of the radio or there is a wireless PTT one can strap to their rifle or any other place they desire. Batteries. A weak point of many radios. Most Ham or medium to high tier radios use rechargeable batteries. One must keep several charged batteries on hand for a mission. This equals extra weight. Which can also result in the loss of several mags of ammo. The PRR uses plain old AA alkaline batteries. When your done chuck em'. (Not recommended, bad for environment) but one can keep a whole stack of batteries that weigh less than a rechargeable pack. Having lucked out and bought cut offs from non working headsets I have been able to make my own adapters to any headset that I own. As for long range comms, ham radios will do and unless this is a SHTF scenario where society has broken down DO NOT USE ham gear on FRS, MURS, or commercial frequencies. I prefer more current Motorola equipment with encryption for more serious and long range work. Yeah one needs deep pockets and must know what they are doing to use these toys but a bit more practical than using some of the old government PRCs (aka just plain ole Pricks). Yeah they are cool, cost a lot more than they are worth and a pain to repair since parts are almost non existent to civilians or are no longer made. One thing to remember is to use the KISS philosophy when setting up your gear. Semper Fi and 73
You’re videos are very helpful bc I’m trying to learn these same things and this saves me a lot of time and confusion doing research in forums and such.
Haha I hear you. I'm always like "how the hell is this done" and it seems like a lot of knowledge is behind gatekeepers that don't want it all out there. Glad to share what I learn so you can get up and running too! -Walsh
I can't believe I haven't seen this sooner great video. I would argue for non radio people to get a remote speaker mic with the 3.5mm connector and either a tube earpiece or a AUX cord to the ear pro. Less wires to keep track of on the kit.
If you find yourself in a situation here in the United States, where you need to be concerned about having encrypted comms, then your problems are bigger than you realize.
I like it. I’ve been looking forward to this video. As usual, I think the best option for me is somewhere in the middle. I’ll have to watch again to pick what makes sense for my setup. Honestly, this is the first time in my life I’ve had people to use comms with. Most of the training I’ve done has been shooting. Haven’t really had the area to move or the people to communicate. Now that new avenues are opening to me, I’m loving expanding my skill set.
Badass! Get those folks on civtak with you too. I'll show you some tricks but making your own server and having the team all connected up is pretty crazy. Interested to see what setup you end up with! -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I’ll keep you in the loop. It seems a little ridiculous how expensive PTTs can be, given they’re just relocating a function the radio already has. Refresh my memory, what’s civtak? It’s making a dull clunking that’s not exactly a ringing bell, in my head.
Also... geeking out... DMR radios can connect to android smart phones, and you can run your own ATAK server and ATAK devices over a private DMR repeater network. 😉. Enjoy!
OOoOoooO! Shows how far behind I am. I need to learn how to hook all that up. I'm already running ATAK and civTAK. I have a server and group I need to share one day...lol I THINK you can even use plugins to in ATAK to run that as a radio? not sure. I gotta play with it. -Walsh
The Kenwood handhelds also fit the baofeng connecter so it's not just one radio. Or even just one radio style and evolution. uvr5, uvr5+ the r8 and so on all use the same connector. There was a third ..Anytone DMRs. I'm sure there's more out there. 09:19 EDIT: 13:24 Spoke to soon. Host mentions what I just said about kenwoods. :)
I love my Boafeng tri band radios, just trying to find away to adapt them to helmet wear and in some cases without a helmet and I think this video gave me what I needed.
Great video! It took trying 5 different PTT to find the correct one that worked with my Midland GXT and Peltor Comm 3. And and over a year of mailing the PTT back and forth! But Tony at Comm Gear Supply in California was dedicated to find the correct PTT.
I legit dumped my amps for a set of peltors. Amps have cool modularity and awesome noise protection... if you have a supply chain to replace them at the frequency that they fail.
I had been running the Baofeng (AR-152?) for 3 or 4 years. I think I'm on my 4th radio. I'm not a comm wizard like some of my friends have become, but I try to be at least competent. When they all went APRS or DMR...I kind of fell behind the curve. If your like me...see if you can get your comm guy to get everybody on ATAK. I'm not smart enough to set it up from scratch, but a bunch of us switched over around a year ago. The hammer plug-in makes training easier (Run $20 UV-5R'S instead of $3,500 Motorollas for training), IF your someplace that has internet anyway.
DMR radio is the only thing you should be using. There are DMR's now that cost less than a UV-5R such as the COTRE radios. I can find you and intercept you within an hour if you're using a baofeng. And that with commercially available equipment. The fedgov has 100000x better stuff. Dmr natively encrypts it's transmissions.
Bahahaha, the “Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt” was hilarious. That old video of those LARP’ers is hilarious, and well this is “operator LARPing” in a way, unless shit absolutely hits the fan and then it’d be nice to have a lot of this stuff. Love the vids! Also, a 90 degree 3.5mm headphone Jack would be better and wouldn’t stick out and catch on things.
haha glad you enjoy and concur on the 90 degree. They actually changed the design after this video was released. It depends on what headset you use though as the sordins are on the bottom...so then the 90 is a tad weird. -Walsh
Idk if I missed you saying this but, with the Walker Razors, if you run an audio output line into the headphones, you lose the Walker's microphone audio feed. Unless you're doing some sneaky squirrel stuff, which you probably aren't, it makes more sense to have a speaker mic when using budget electronic hearing protection. Speaker mics also have the distinct advantage of being used without a headset at all, or with a full cut helmet that cannot accommodate even the very slim Walker Razors.
Hearing someone say "repeat" into a radio seriously stresses me tf out. Perhaps the most dangerous bit or radio traffic I personally know of is the word "repeat"... got in the habit of using "say again" real quick
Don't say "repeat" on a radio in a tactical setting like at 05:22 , when you mean to say "read back" or "say again". Repeat is a completely different command, and usually ends in someone getting shot.
"mom... the radio fudds are crying about what's on my RUclips video again" saying the wrong thing may have been the joke... it was a bit high brow ill admit
You can use a basic baofeng on FMS or GMR or go into the big boy ham bands A crappy bubble radio is gonna be 15 bucks and the baofeng is like 20..... so buying the neutered one isn't very wise
@@ThinLineDefenseCo there are programmable frs compliant radios that can also be programmed to connect it's a legality thing as if you do not have the correct paperwork it's illegal to broadcast on specific frequencies a bit of my background I'm ex navy with communication information systems training meaning im a fully qualified military coms guy I'm just saying for people who may not yet want to pay for licensing and everything it's a legal option and specific bands allow a maximum power output of less than the baofeng will output also I'm not suggesting a crappy bubble radio per say I'm suggesting a programmable one like the ksun M5 or as its called on Ali express ksut pmr446 cos it's pre programed for PMR but can be used on other frequencies if programmed for them
While I and most of the people I larp with have moved on from Baofeng’s, I make sure to keep my Microsoft Surface in my pack along with all programming cables I may need for the exact reason that programming on the fly in the field sucks, especially once you’ve moved on to DMR radio’s and portable repeaters. Lol
haha I hear you. Having a radio that can connect to chirp or my laptop for programming is a must. Some of these folks scream for motorola...but then I look at their software and I'm immediately out.
Good looking out! Was going down the gear hole again this was very helpful. Especially with the earpro cable adapters. Saved my ass on dropping a big chunk of change on new ear pro for coms when my pt100's work great. Thanks for the info!
Maybe I missed it since I was listening while driving to work but there's a big advantage to having a throat mic over boom and other mics. You can talk at lower volumes and they don't pick up near as much background noise. They do take a bit of getting used to and at least the one I have only works on the b channel of the baufeng so that's something to be aware of. That's on the 82hp though so it may work differently on a 5r. It's also worth noting that any 5r and likely other models made in the last year no longer transmit on frs, gmrs or murs channels. They changed that to better comply with the fcc rules. So they aren't good group radios for just doing outdoor stuff like they used to be if you use those channels.
Great information and good quality video, but really difficult to listen to with you laughing through every sentence, we are here for the quality info, you don't have to try so hard to be funny! Just a small critique, Thanks for the video, big help!!
The in ear have proven to me to be pretty bad. I test a lot of headsets and ear pro and those are usually good for like... Pistols... Outside. Anything else and the sound still bites pretty bad. Particularly large calibers indoors.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo these were used by polish and sas forces ..military grade and 100 percent weather proof. You can whisper with these and clear as hell.
@@devilmanable they all do.. it's a design issue and not a product limitations. They all use the same crappy in ear solution. You may like them but I've found the in ear stuff to be sub par for almost all firearm application. I don't use the rectal ears one though....
@@ThinLineDefenseCo lol...ok I'm a liar guess the fact I use mine multiple days a week and well not for airsoft doesn't mean anything lol... you have a good one
Sir, I appreciated your video very much. I am new to the HAM world and when you said you would show us how to program the Baofeng with a cable and an application, would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of that video? I get the feeling that you are good at explaining things to the novice.
Tongo tongo ambush is a great example, most people know the 4 special forces that died but most don’t know the rest of the detachment had to run for their lives and were being advanced on and had to render their radios useless and prep for a last stand they just lucky that isis began to lose intrest in attacking where they started to prep a defensive position, this is with high quality comms, so never underestimate the ability to Z out even the most simple radio
I have two Baofeng and a Yaesu handhelds, I find seeing as I do not use the digital part of the Yaesu, the Baofengs are actually better. Reason? battery longevity and ease of programming.
@@seanlowry7848 ahhh the walkie talkie thing? Sorry thought you meant it connected into a phone. That works but it uses FMS/GRMS. You'd likely be fine but it's only a few channels that it would offer you and those would definitely be monitored. People call those "bubble radios" because they come in the little plastic bubble packaging. I recommend an actual radio but if this is what ya got... It's better than nothing!
that's the eagle ergo on the inside. The shoulders is a Haley hitchhike into a flatpack 2.0. The flatpack situation is ... well I'm still trying it lol the eagle ergo is fantastic
I started with the uv 5r it's cheap and I don't know what I'm doing so I can mess it up. I'll try to get something better when I figure out when I'm doing
Great video thankyou! Do you have any recommendations for hearing protection that I can mount to my helmet? Don’t have the budget for the 600+ dollar peltors but really want to get something solid mounted to my helmet.
This video may help. I think all these are helmet mountable. Planning on doing a more budget centric round 2 of this - ruclips.net/video/8vmdI7usd9U/видео.html
I will agree that dmr is useful. But at 14x the cost... You don't get a 14x better radio. It is marginally better for a significant cost. We all get what suits out need but Motorola has significantly bad open source programming integration. For a business or funded entity, it's a fine option. If you're not using truncated channels though, it's a huge waste. For an individual or small groups, absolutely not.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo The open source limitations are by design. there are various reason for gaining with Moto, one of them is some radios are missing chip sets that make comtac's non-compatable while on DMR. This is the case with an anytone UV plus. I found this out through a tech at Peltor.
@@JoseVazquez-lj1ir interesting the higher end stuff would limit what you can do with cheaper headsets. I'll have to play with some amps and see what other shortfalls they have normal gear.
@@JoseVazquez-lj1ir normal ham radios give you all channels. The "open" radios let you do bonkers stuff if they can tie into open source software. I don't like the radios that only give a handful of options
What you said about expensive radios giving away your location just as easily is simpily not true. Companies like Silvus use waveforing capabilities that make the radio hard to detect.
Very true! tedious but not hard. It's just a pain when you want to add in like 80 channels and all all use a tx and rx offset. But yes, not hard...tedious is a better way to explain it
What budget headset with no mic do you recommend for the commgear supply setup? The headset I have isn't receiving comms through the 3.5mm jack and my budget is $300 cap. Has to be comfy under a ballistic helmet.
My guy said “repeat”. Screams in Arty and air support.
lol it's more fun if it looks like I have no idea what I'm doing lol
That is exactly what I was thinking, I was 11C in my former life.
0811... was sh*tting bricks when I heard that...
I love it how everyone ducked for cover in this comment when he said “repeat”.
As former arty, saying "repeat" over the radio is one my my biggest pet peeves. I yell at people when they do it.
I have my general license... I’m telling everyone, programming a baofeng is actually quicker and easier than a lot of the other super expensive radios like Yaesu and Kenwood!!! I usually recommend a baofeng to everyone for their first radio. Like you said, start cheap, outgrow the radio and then move into expensive ones.
Absolutely. Chirp compatibility is basically a must for me now. Some people want an expensive radio...that they don't use.
I'd rather seen a baofeng that died from overuse.
Great input!
-Walsh
Supposedly theres a bluetooth adapter that connects to your phone and makes it even easier then chirp...
Hey, is there a way to get your ham license _without_ having to doxx yourself in the process with all your personal info publicly accessible in the FTC and ARRL sites?
@@code-dredd ...nope
@@agmsmith4079 That's the main issue I have with the whole thing... I want to get a license, but I don't want any of this self-doxxing BS... 😕
One thing to remember, put your radio where you can reach it so you can change channels if your comms are compromised, and put the PTT button where you can push it with your off hand, not the hand that holds the gun. I am right hand dominate, so all of my comms stuff tends to be towards my left hand.
Another way to help protect your comms for short distances, and not be triangulated, is to use a mesh network device. I am using GoTenna because there are many out there to help bounce a signal, the app is already on the app stores, and it uses end-to-end encryption to send text messages. Mesh dont use any infrastructure to operate, just think of them as a cheap radio with limited range (think Baofeng) that sends texts.
Great video.
I thought the app store turned that feature off because of the CCP told them to over the covid riots in China
CCP learned there lesson in the Hong Kong massacre
@@jeffccr3620 Not sure what feature you are talking about. GoTenna is not a feature its a stand alone product.
Finally a video about comms that actually answered my questions and not multiplied them. Thank you Mr.
Glad to help and thanks for watching!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo The only question that I have after all of this that can I use setups like this for communication between units with dedicated radio operators in each unit. Or me and my teammates are gonna need another setup and these setups are only good for communication inside a small unit?
That depends on the unit. They could be using digital truncated which would require specific radios and specific coding. MOST likely you'd need another radio and as long as you can hook it into a PTT, you should be fine. Some units may use a PRC152 though and you could run on their frequency but it would still likely required coding for specific settings.
Ultimately the answer it....it depends. I'd plan on needing an different radio when going from civilian to mil units.
-Walsh
There’s nothing more dangerous than a person with all the most expensive stuff, who has little to no idea how it all works.
Solid video!
I think you just called out the entire tactical gear sub reddit lol
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Who mmmmeeeeeeeeeee? I would NEVER! 😇
As us Brits say “All the gear, no idea!!”
I don’t know about dangerous I would say easy target
the expense is irrelevant. anyone not knowing how to use anything dangerous is scary. but people just like to parrot things they heard before
Thin line: “Repeat”
Fires: “COWABUNGA ITS IS”
Looked up several vids on uv5r and comms setup. Different vods covered it different ways so still got something out of this. Thumbs up.
Every time someone mentions Hops, somewhere in the world a person's Slickster rig is giving them trouble.
😆😆😆😆
I felt that… 😂
Great video! Very informative for nubies!
Personally I like the Bowman PRR setup. Frequency hopping in the 2.4 GHz ISSM band. Squad spec. Short range up to 900 meters LOS. It will also screwup Bluetooth and WiFi comms of others who go for some of the gear based on those frequencies. Radio utilizes a single earpiece headphone style system with a condenser microphone. Held to ones head with a strap system that can be used under almost helmet system. PTT is on the side of the radio or there is a wireless PTT one can strap to their rifle or any other place they desire. Batteries. A weak point of many radios. Most Ham or medium to high tier radios use rechargeable batteries. One must keep several charged batteries on hand for a mission. This equals extra weight. Which can also result in the loss of several mags of ammo. The PRR uses plain old AA alkaline batteries. When your done chuck em'. (Not recommended, bad for environment) but one can keep a whole stack of batteries that weigh less than a rechargeable pack. Having lucked out and bought cut offs from non working headsets I have been able to make my own adapters to any headset that I own.
As for long range comms, ham radios will do and unless this is a SHTF scenario where society has broken down DO NOT USE ham gear on FRS, MURS, or commercial frequencies.
I prefer more current Motorola equipment with encryption for more serious and long range work. Yeah one needs deep pockets and must know what they are doing to use these toys but a bit more practical than using some of the old government PRCs (aka just plain ole Pricks). Yeah they are cool, cost a lot more than they are worth and a pain to repair since parts are almost non existent to civilians or are no longer made.
One thing to remember is to use the KISS philosophy when setting up your gear.
Semper Fi and 73
You’re videos are very helpful bc I’m trying to learn these same things and this saves me a lot of time and confusion doing research in forums and such.
Haha I hear you. I'm always like "how the hell is this done" and it seems like a lot of knowledge is behind gatekeepers that don't want it all out there.
Glad to share what I learn so you can get up and running too!
-Walsh
I can't believe I haven't seen this sooner great video. I would argue for non radio people to get a remote speaker mic with the 3.5mm connector and either a tube earpiece or a AUX cord to the ear pro. Less wires to keep track of on the kit.
If you find yourself in a situation here in the United States, where you need to be concerned about having encrypted comms, then your problems are bigger than you realize.
I like it. I’ve been looking forward to this video. As usual, I think the best option for me is somewhere in the middle. I’ll have to watch again to pick what makes sense for my setup. Honestly, this is the first time in my life I’ve had people to use comms with. Most of the training I’ve done has been shooting. Haven’t really had the area to move or the people to communicate. Now that new avenues are opening to me, I’m loving expanding my skill set.
Badass! Get those folks on civtak with you too. I'll show you some tricks but making your own server and having the team all connected up is pretty crazy.
Interested to see what setup you end up with!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I’ll keep you in the loop. It seems a little ridiculous how expensive PTTs can be, given they’re just relocating a function the radio already has.
Refresh my memory, what’s civtak? It’s making a dull clunking that’s not exactly a ringing bell, in my head.
One of the best videos I've seen on this topic. Well done. Really helpful for someone trying to get to that next level in comms.
Thanks
You're joking, right?
This channel is like…..Tool Time ….for troopers….
Lmao spec ops looking on RUclips for guidance for issued equipment was amazing. Lmao😅
Happens more than you would think.
For a cheap tip, I use the baofang PTT that looks like a CB handheld but it has a headphone out socket and works well with my ear pro.
What are you using for ear pro with the baofeng cb handheld?
@@dutch1995 impact sport and impact pro have audio on sockets.
For my setup I made a flowerpot type coax dipole (without radome) that I can just weave into my carrier. I think it's working out very well.
What?
Also... geeking out... DMR radios can connect to android smart phones, and you can run your own ATAK server and ATAK devices over a private DMR repeater network. 😉. Enjoy!
OOoOoooO! Shows how far behind I am. I need to learn how to hook all that up. I'm already running ATAK and civTAK. I have a server and group I need to share one day...lol
I THINK you can even use plugins to in ATAK to run that as a radio? not sure. I gotta play with it.
-Walsh
The Kenwood handhelds also fit the baofeng connecter so it's not just one radio. Or even just one radio style and evolution. uvr5, uvr5+ the r8 and so on all use the same connector. There was a third ..Anytone DMRs. I'm sure there's more out there. 09:19 EDIT: 13:24 Spoke to soon. Host mentions what I just said about kenwoods. :)
I love my Boafeng tri band radios, just trying to find away to adapt them to helmet wear and in some cases without a helmet and I think this video gave me what I needed.
Glad I could help you get some comms ideas!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Once again thanks.I will be looking into some of these items this week, time permitted.
I got a 5 pack of UV5Rs because they're stupid cheap and I figure I can use them to toss to others when I eventually upgrade to something nicer
This channel has been so helpful when it comes to setting up my first rig
Comms was my MOS, and I have to say, this is an excellent, excellent video.
Shhh...people get angry when someone who knows what they're talking about agrees with Walsh
- Jason
Great video! It took trying 5 different PTT to find the correct one that worked with my Midland GXT and Peltor Comm 3. And and over a year of mailing the PTT back and forth! But Tony at Comm Gear Supply in California was dedicated to find the correct PTT.
Your channel is costing me lots of $$$$$$$, but I'm glad I found it and enjoy your content.
I legit dumped my amps for a set of peltors. Amps have cool modularity and awesome noise protection... if you have a supply chain to replace them at the frequency that they fail.
True budget coms is a fire with a towel being waved over it.
No love for can and string I see... disappointing
I had been running the Baofeng (AR-152?) for 3 or 4 years. I think I'm on my 4th radio. I'm not a comm wizard like some of my friends have become, but I try to be at least competent. When they all went APRS or DMR...I kind of fell behind the curve.
If your like me...see if you can get your comm guy to get everybody on ATAK. I'm not smart enough to set it up from scratch, but a bunch of us switched over around a year ago. The hammer plug-in makes training easier (Run $20 UV-5R'S instead of $3,500 Motorollas for training), IF your someplace that has internet anyway.
DMR radio is the only thing you should be using. There are DMR's now that cost less than a UV-5R such as the COTRE radios. I can find you and intercept you within an hour if you're using a baofeng. And that with commercially available equipment. The fedgov has 100000x better stuff.
Dmr natively encrypts it's transmissions.
Excellent job brother. Thanks for continuing to put out great content.
Thanks for always watching and thanks for the support dad!
We appreciate it.
-Walshy
Great video and breakdown. This answered a few questions surely for people new to this.
I like the little earpiece. Be something good to keep in a pouch in case anything happened to the earpro
Bahahaha, the “Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt” was hilarious. That old video of those LARP’ers is hilarious, and well this is “operator LARPing” in a way, unless shit absolutely hits the fan and then it’d be nice to have a lot of this stuff. Love the vids!
Also, a 90 degree 3.5mm headphone Jack would be better and wouldn’t stick out and catch on things.
haha glad you enjoy and concur on the 90 degree. They actually changed the design after this video was released. It depends on what headset you use though as the sordins are on the bottom...so then the 90 is a tad weird.
-Walsh
Idk if I missed you saying this but, with the Walker Razors, if you run an audio output line into the headphones, you lose the Walker's microphone audio feed. Unless you're doing some sneaky squirrel stuff, which you probably aren't, it makes more sense to have a speaker mic when using budget electronic hearing protection.
Speaker mics also have the distinct advantage of being used without a headset at all, or with a full cut helmet that cannot accommodate even the very slim Walker Razors.
Every youtuber talking about kit: Remember, expensive kit is useless if you don't train and learn how to use it.
Me: No, no I don't think I will.
haha well just look cool then. That's half the battle.
-Walsh
Hearing someone say "repeat" into a radio seriously stresses me tf out. Perhaps the most dangerous bit or radio traffic I personally know of is the word "repeat"... got in the habit of using "say again" real quick
Lol this is not the radio etiquette channel
Good thing no artillery or mortar teams were listening
Don't say "repeat" on a radio in a tactical setting like at 05:22 , when you mean to say "read back" or "say again". Repeat is a completely different command, and usually ends in someone getting shot.
"mom... the radio fudds are crying about what's on my RUclips video again"
saying the wrong thing may have been the joke... it was a bit high brow ill admit
Id recommend getting something on family band to start before going into walkie talkie like the one he used in the video
You can use a basic baofeng on FMS or GMR or go into the big boy ham bands
A crappy bubble radio is gonna be 15 bucks and the baofeng is like 20..... so buying the neutered one isn't very wise
@@ThinLineDefenseCo there are programmable frs compliant radios that can also be programmed to connect it's a legality thing as if you do not have the correct paperwork it's illegal to broadcast on specific frequencies a bit of my background I'm ex navy with communication information systems training meaning im a fully qualified military coms guy I'm just saying for people who may not yet want to pay for licensing and everything it's a legal option and specific bands allow a maximum power output of less than the baofeng will output also I'm not suggesting a crappy bubble radio per say I'm suggesting a programmable one like the ksun M5 or as its called on Ali express ksut pmr446 cos it's pre programed for PMR but can be used on other frequencies if programmed for them
Luv it..
Goofy, funny, entertaining but quite informational..
3 out of 4... That's pretty good lol
-Walsh
Edit: I misread... It's early lol
While I and most of the people I larp with have moved on from Baofeng’s, I make sure to keep my Microsoft Surface in my pack along with all programming cables I may need for the exact reason that programming on the fly in the field sucks, especially once you’ve moved on to DMR radio’s and portable repeaters. Lol
haha I hear you. Having a radio that can connect to chirp or my laptop for programming is a must. Some of these folks scream for motorola...but then I look at their software and I'm immediately out.
Whenever he said fudd lord I knew I could trust his advice
haha well thanks for watching!
-Walsh
Good looking out! Was going down the gear hole again this was very helpful. Especially with the earpro cable adapters. Saved my ass on dropping a big chunk of change on new ear pro for coms when my pt100's work great. Thanks for the info!
What you know about comm gear could fit on the tip of a 5.56
DADDDD!! SOME WEIRD GUY IS CRYING TO ME ON THE INTERNET AGAIN
-Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalsh
Truth. Newbs please don't listen to this stupid shit.
So enlighten us?
Right on brother!! Great video!! Definitely pointed me in the right direction
Lemme know if you get a setup complete. I'd love to check it out
@@ThinLineDefenseCo definitely will let you see when I get it done, gonna have to save up a bit for some of the stuff but I’ll get there lol.
Maybe I missed it since I was listening while driving to work but there's a big advantage to having a throat mic over boom and other mics.
You can talk at lower volumes and they don't pick up near as much background noise. They do take a bit of getting used to and at least the one I have only works on the b channel of the baufeng so that's something to be aware of. That's on the 82hp though so it may work differently on a 5r. It's also worth noting that any 5r and likely other models made in the last year no longer transmit on frs, gmrs or murs channels. They changed that to better comply with the fcc rules. So they aren't good group radios for just doing outdoor stuff like they used to be if you use those channels.
just withing first minute of watching this guy i subcribed xd
hell yea, thanks man!
-Walsh
I like having my radio coms heard by everyone so they can hear my expert half life 2 larping as a civil protection member
👍 Nice video!! GREAT TO SEE THE SET UPS! Thank you ! 😎👍
Good info; I appreciate your humor, humility, and discussion points. Thank you!
Thanks for the video. Definitely something to think about.
Great information and good quality video, but really difficult to listen to with you laughing through every sentence, we are here for the quality info, you don't have to try so hard to be funny! Just a small critique, Thanks for the video, big help!!
Awww haha noted. I try to make it fun and genuine but I'll keep that in mind!
Hey thin line...do u have a vid on how 2 set up & use the baeufong 5r ? ...I know there r vids out there but I like ur way of teaching
I don't yet but it's been highly requested. I'll make one and have it out soon.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanx bro...
Setup 1: 4:17
Setup 2: 6:45
Setup 3: 10:02
Setup 4: 13:08
Recommend: 17:25
I use racal frontiers in ears with bone conduction comms and noise reduction...they are awesome and no bulky over ear..
The in ear have proven to me to be pretty bad. I test a lot of headsets and ear pro and those are usually good for like... Pistols... Outside.
Anything else and the sound still bites pretty bad. Particularly large calibers indoors.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo these were used by polish and sas forces ..military grade and 100 percent weather proof. You can whisper with these and clear as hell.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I never tried the airsoft in ears they may suck
@@devilmanable they all do.. it's a design issue and not a product limitations.
They all use the same crappy in ear solution.
You may like them but I've found the in ear stuff to be sub par for almost all firearm application.
I don't use the rectal ears one though....
@@ThinLineDefenseCo lol...ok I'm a liar guess the fact I use mine multiple days a week and well not for airsoft doesn't mean anything lol... you have a good one
Sir, I appreciated your video very much. I am new to the HAM world and when you said you would show us how to program the Baofeng with a cable and an application, would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of that video? I get the feeling that you are good at explaining things to the novice.
I uhh... Never made it haha Google "how to program a baofeng with chirp" it takes like 2 minutes
Really useful video. Thank you.
Thank you for your time sir.
Commenting on the video for the algorithm
What antenna connection protector piece is that at 8:06 ? Looks like a metal piece protecting the radio volume and antenna port
Trying to learn but yet your here trying to educate people. Makes sense.
If sharing what I've learned makes you butt hurt then I got a tear bucket just for you lol
-Walshy Pooh
Can you do a version of this for coms setup with gas mask compared? Thanks
good video and informative
I love you bro but you have that 80-90s action movie bad guy look 😂
Hahah that's awesome. I need a good 80's bad guy name
PRC-149 baby!
If I get a high threat lvl100 comms will you talk to me through them Walsh 😀
Great vid brother
lol get your HAM license, you can talk to me!
That Microbat Shirt though .
Yes yes! That thing is too cool.
Tongo tongo ambush is a great example, most people know the 4 special forces that died but most don’t know the rest of the detachment had to run for their lives and were being advanced on and had to render their radios useless and prep for a last stand they just lucky that isis began to lose intrest in attacking where they started to prep a defensive position, this is with high quality comms, so never underestimate the ability to Z out even the most simple radio
I have two Baofeng and a Yaesu handhelds, I find seeing as I do not use the digital part of the Yaesu, the Baofengs are actually better. Reason? battery longevity and ease of programming.
absolutely, chirp makes an into to radios about a 2 second programming experience.
-Walsh
Personally, I use an antenna relocation and put my radio low on the right side.
Great info! if anyone has the comms gear supply stuff please comment how you like it
Have you seen the Motorola attachment for the Razer? It's a built in Motorola radio with a boom Mike that attaches straight to your earpro
from the phone??
@@ThinLineDefenseCo yes it clips straight to the headset. No wires whatsoever
@@seanlowry7848 ahhh the walkie talkie thing? Sorry thought you meant it connected into a phone.
That works but it uses FMS/GRMS. You'd likely be fine but it's only a few channels that it would offer you and those would definitely be monitored.
People call those "bubble radios" because they come in the little plastic bubble packaging.
I recommend an actual radio but if this is what ya got... It's better than nothing!
Could you recommend a setup for a BTech DMR-6X2 Pro radio and Howard Leight Impact Sport earpro?
Good Stuff!
In the crye SPC what is that multicam black on shoulder area and the black panel thing on the inside back area of carrier
that's the eagle ergo on the inside. The shoulders is a Haley hitchhike into a flatpack 2.0. The flatpack situation is ... well I'm still trying it lol the eagle ergo is fantastic
@14:34 I’m wondering what M4 mag pouch and admin pouches you’re using and how are they set up?
I started with the uv 5r it's cheap and I don't know what I'm doing so I can mess it up. I'll try to get something better when I figure out when I'm doing
Where did you get that niffty volume knob and BNC protector/cover. BTW ... lov'n your content.
Think I shot you an email Scott! I got it on thingiverse and had it printed out from a buddy. Let me know if you can't find it
-Walsh
Great video thankyou! Do you have any recommendations for hearing protection that I can mount to my helmet? Don’t have the budget for the 600+ dollar peltors but really want to get something solid mounted to my helmet.
This video may help. I think all these are helmet mountable. Planning on doing a more budget centric round 2 of this - ruclips.net/video/8vmdI7usd9U/видео.html
Have you tried the CovertArms 3.5mm system?
If your using dmr be carful to make sure your cable is properly RF protected
Yea or the ham fudds will show up and wave their teeth at me
-Walsh
Nice video.
Many many thanks
-Walsh
What radio pouch are you using?
Those are the defense mechanism sidekick radio pouches. I'll be showing those next weekend!
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanks!
Something to add. When using a remote mic, that can throw off your compass. Know how I know? Because I know.
OooOo very good to know!
How does the sound on the tea hi threat compare to the sordins?
They sound exactly the same, the Hi-threat is just an upgraded set of Sordins.
I have a few 700 dollars Motorola's but it does everything I need including DMR. At the end of the day you get what you pay for.
I will agree that dmr is useful. But at 14x the cost... You don't get a 14x better radio. It is marginally better for a significant cost.
We all get what suits out need but Motorola has significantly bad open source programming integration.
For a business or funded entity, it's a fine option. If you're not using truncated channels though, it's a huge waste.
For an individual or small groups, absolutely not.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo The open source limitations are by design. there are various reason for gaining with Moto, one of them is some radios are missing chip sets that make comtac's non-compatable while on DMR. This is the case with an anytone UV plus. I found this out through a tech at Peltor.
Also, the Moto's I use have a amateur mode making it extremely useful for HAM.
@@JoseVazquez-lj1ir interesting the higher end stuff would limit what you can do with cheaper headsets. I'll have to play with some amps and see what other shortfalls they have normal gear.
@@JoseVazquez-lj1ir normal ham radios give you all channels. The "open" radios let you do bonkers stuff if they can tie into open source software.
I don't like the radios that only give a handful of options
Whats the little protector thing that fits over the switch ok the radio?
What you said about expensive radios giving away your location just as easily is simpily not true. Companies like Silvus use waveforing capabilities that make the radio hard to detect.
Would a TP-120 down-lead integrate with a nexus u-94 by disco32?
I've never heard of Tea headsets before. Do they sell to civilians? It seems you have to request a quote. Do any retailers carry there stuff? Thanks
They do. I think they usually deal with larger scale but just reach out to em via their form.
Thank u
its not hard to program, its tedious to program all the channels, but putting a frequency ,shift and so on is easy
Very true! tedious but not hard. It's just a pain when you want to add in like 80 channels and all all use a tx and rx offset. But yes, not hard...tedious is a better way to explain it
will the last idea work with a otto noizebarrier tac headset ?
Bro...cut back on the caffeine lol
Haha I do love some coffee!!
@@ThinLineDefenseCo good video though, I'll buy ya a coffee next time....but decaff
@@TomahawksNShotShells hahah the video will be long... And boring... I'll need a nap lol but I'll take it!
What plate carrier you running homer
Please review the earmor m32 headset $89 and has a TP-120/ U174 DOWNLEAD
I have a PTT for my Walker's Razor. I need a microphone. Any recommenations?
Defense Distributors website has covert arms multi-mount mic for $72
Where did you find the 2 pin cable adapter that converts to a 3.5mm
at comm gear supply. I think I have a link in the description
The fake, forced laughs were insufferable. Just be normal.
Haha you should meet me. You'd be mad.
What budget headset with no mic do you recommend for the commgear supply setup? The headset I have isn't receiving comms through the 3.5mm jack and my budget is $300 cap. Has to be comfy under a ballistic helmet.
I backed up and drove over and then backed up over my uv5r and it still works perfectly
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