That is an old enough tractor where that is not an issue at all. There is manuals that go completely through that engine. New John Deere tractors are definitely hard to repair yourself. Older ones though are great to work on and typically very reliable
You should both make three engines and three vehicles. One small, one medium, and one large of both. You give the vehicles to each other, and use your engines in the one you get, then run challenges or races with them. But here's the catch.... Both are randomly selected.. (basically you try to guess which size vehicle they are gonna give you) so you could get a small vehicle with a large engine, or large vehicle with a small engine. Each vehicle and engine can only be used once.
It would be cool if you go back and fine tune the vehicle after trying it out. Maybe you could both do a separate fine tune and do some challenges again? Make some rules or something about how much you can change things but have open reign on things like gearbox and suspension etc...
Kosmo and Butch sounds like an awesome 70's buddy cop tv show! 😉 You should build a couple of policecars and go solve some crimes. On a more serious note, i got Automation back in 2017 i think it was. I didn't even know you could export the cars to Beam until watching your videos. So now i have to get BeamNG too i guess.
haha thanks for the wholesome comment xD Had fun imagining that cop buddy scenario 🤣 Do it!! It's so great to be able to drive them properly afterwards :)
I love how he’s able to make a 2.7L i3 cylinder that is bigger than my 1.8L 1975 Fiat i4 cylinder, and have the 2.7L still make half the power lol. That’s actually mind blowing how you can have so much displacement and make so little power. That’s on par with the model T engines. Also for future builds cosmo, if you want to make an engine with no power just build a normal engine that works great. Then give it a really small carb and restrictive exhaust. Add a smog pump/rebreather going into the intake for extra points. That’s how they killed the power in my car. My car makes 84hp stock, but makes over 100hp just by replacing the exhaust and carb. Easiest way to kill a cars power is get the government involved.
Also if you are looking for engines specs to build, there are countless resources for my car’s engine. You can find every single measurement possible for this engine. 1975 fiat 124 spider, 1800cc inline 4, North American market. Would be super cool to see your version of it in one of your videos.
22:43 hey if a grandpa is recording it im sure theres a grandma out there watching lmao, and yes we love this series so pls keep goin (dont ask me for ideas tho im not gud at those)
You can comfortably make a turbo version of this engine. Lots of old tractor engines back in the day had a turbo version, even those from the 60s. Personally i would have went for an I4 instead of an I3, I4 engines were the most common
I really love these challenges! Maybe next time you guys could build cars with the imsa prototype body that automation has? Then you could make the only requirement that the engine has to fit in the back of it.
That motor has an Up-Draft Carb on it, most vehicles did not get EFI until the 80s and tractors are normally 10-20 years behind as their more relaxed on EPA regulations.
I want to see a competition with a budget limit. Set some sort of low price and then compare racing performance, drag race, maybe off road, then also like normal stuff like mpg, comfort and reliabilitty
really wish they made a space flight sim like this. really enjoying this series, i personally like it better if you learn while you play and not study in between but as long as you're having fun that makes for a good show.
I'm not sure how this game works but the reason it said that the engine would break right away might be because you didn't put balancing shafts on it: 3cyl engines have inherently unbalanced verticle inertia forces from pistons moving up and down. And harmonic balancer is used to fight tortional vibrations in the crankshaft which aren't that dangerous in a 3cyl since crankshaft is very short. It could also be that you put too heavy of a harmonic balancer and the engine breaks trying to overcome it's inertia.
There are some good racing maps, especially an Uphill one where you can race with engines at maybe 100~200 kilometers per hour, mixing a little bit of everything for a challenge
One of my favorite cars I've ever made in Automation is a sports car with a V10 - except the V10 tops out at 2000 rpm. I called it the "growler" because that's what it does... It doesn't rev, it just goes "grrrr"
The biggest issues you have is, 1: adjusting intake and exhaust before you even finish the engine... these are done LAST as they make a HUGE impact on how your engine runs, and where you make power. 2: your cam is too aggressive, literally not even using 70% of your cam at 3000 rpm. Fun video though.
You should have chosen another year fir the engine, on top left, it'll change the power and the technology available to match your beautiful reference engine
Now, that is not how utility engines are built. First thing, in Automation you can easily replicate a diesel engine both in terms of high knock threshold for high comp and really good fuel economy by using 150RON Compressed Gas as fuel. Second thing, utility engines are basically AAAALLLL low end torque, so in Automation that means the Cam and Valvetrain stiffness value hovers is always between 0-10, never above. Third, always use standard low for both intake and exhaust, because automation doesn't get it quite right but realistically utility engines don't flow much hair due to their cam setup, hence a standard low behaves the most similarly to a real tractor or truck engine. Finally, you used a Port Injected EFI in this but the engine you're referencing uses mechanical injection for both petrol and diesel variants. All that being said, really good video 😊
as far as i know this game should support Diesel engines.. i never played it but i watched a guy on youtube compare built diesel and gasoline engines that have the same Displacement and Turbo pressure :) so there might be a button or something
Hey I noticed most of your questions can be answered by chatGPT including compression and such And then you can for sure just reverse search somehow and find if it’s actually true but mostly it is
I mean, just keep the mismatching going. Have a massive torque hauling super car. Have a 2000hp T-series. Just the opposite of what they look like. The ultimate sleeper series. Will your off-brand Evade Stallion Hades Feline do a 7.72 quarter mile? Nah, but it'll pull the truck hauling the truck hauling the trailer your other off-brand Evade Stallion Hades Feline is on to and from the track.
wait... did those specs (1:32) just say 50 hp and 129 lb-ft? because that's a whole lot better than the engine you made for the 50 hp challenge video 😂 maybe you should have made a tractor engine for your massive wagon 😅
As requested....*pushes the roast Kosmo button*. I would have no clue on the engine stats either...so you did at least as well as I would have or better. :)
its not that you picked an obscure engine, its that you picked an engine from a company that doesnt want any aftermarket and doesnt want you to make any repairs on it. you picked the apple of engine manufacturers
That engine would be carbureted and would only rev up to about 2k. Pretty old engine, built more for torque than anything. Meant to be at full throttle constantly
too high of compression will make the engine pull timing, meaning that you're going to get knocking/pinging, loss of power and reliability. the dyno graph has a timing indiactor that shows blue from the top down when its pulling timing (just below "RPM [1/min]").
That's sorta why I found it odd that it wasn't giving me a knocking warning at 16:1! I am sure there's a perfectly good explanation for it based on the other variables I chose, but I am used to it not being happy when it's that high
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I love how we both wanted to throw a curveball at each other, and somehow it kinda worked!
😅😆 The mind games that will ensue if we keep doing this are gonna be ridiculous haha.
@@darealkosmo, next time, make a 125cc, carbureted thumper suitable for a scooter.
@@Vessekx:O You know what time it is?? Rickshaw time!
@@darealkosmo now its time to swap the rolls.
Y'all are goofy AF. XD
The pictured tractor engine has a carburetor. The presence of a fuel pump doesn't mean the engine has fuel injection.
yeah i'm not sure why so many people think that how do they think fuel gets to the front of the car no matter how its put into the engine lol
Idk, but the tractor I have has gravity feeding all the way to the injector that could have just as well been a carburetor
part of the reason you had a hard time finding info on the john deere engines is that they actively make repairing them your self harder
that's a bummer :/
Yeah, they a very anti right to repair
That is an old enough tractor where that is not an issue at all. There is manuals that go completely through that engine. New John Deere tractors are definitely hard to repair yourself. Older ones though are great to work on and typically very reliable
@@England91 right to repair doesn't exist for farm equipment. The way it does for cars. It fucking sucks
@@jediknight1294false information. That’s going back two years big fella
This has quickly become my favorite series on RUclips.
I appreciate you! 💪
You should both make three engines and three vehicles.
One small, one medium, and one large of both.
You give the vehicles to each other, and use your engines in the one you get, then run challenges or races with them.
But here's the catch.... Both are randomly selected.. (basically you try to guess which size vehicle they are gonna give you) so you could get a small vehicle with a large engine, or large vehicle with a small engine.
Each vehicle and engine can only be used once.
It would be cool if you go back and fine tune the vehicle after trying it out. Maybe you could both do a separate fine tune and do some challenges again? Make some rules or something about how much you can change things but have open reign on things like gearbox and suspension etc...
I'd love to see this done as a Kei car challenge, ultra tiny vehicle with ultra tiny engine.
Kosmo and Butch sounds like an awesome 70's buddy cop tv show! 😉
You should build a couple of policecars and go solve some crimes.
On a more serious note, i got Automation back in 2017 i think it was. I didn't even know you could export the cars to Beam until watching your videos. So now i have to get BeamNG too i guess.
haha thanks for the wholesome comment xD Had fun imagining that cop buddy scenario 🤣
Do it!! It's so great to be able to drive them properly afterwards :)
@@darealkosmo if your computer can handle it 😂
I love how he’s able to make a 2.7L i3 cylinder that is bigger than my 1.8L 1975 Fiat i4 cylinder, and have the 2.7L still make half the power lol. That’s actually mind blowing how you can have so much displacement and make so little power. That’s on par with the model T engines. Also for future builds cosmo, if you want to make an engine with no power just build a normal engine that works great. Then give it a really small carb and restrictive exhaust. Add a smog pump/rebreather going into the intake for extra points. That’s how they killed the power in my car. My car makes 84hp stock, but makes over 100hp just by replacing the exhaust and carb. Easiest way to kill a cars power is get the government involved.
Also if you are looking for engines specs to build, there are countless resources for my car’s engine. You can find every single measurement possible for this engine. 1975 fiat 124 spider, 1800cc inline 4, North American market. Would be super cool to see your version of it in one of your videos.
Not unusual for tractors.
A new Holland ts115 has a 7.5l engine making 115hp
But loves to lug...
Like classic 40L V12 engines from the 20’s that made like 200hp
Ah, but it's got torque enough to move a house
You guys should do a mail truck challenge, make a truck according to what the USPS has contracted Grumman to make (but obviously don’t make the LLV)
22:43 hey if a grandpa is recording it im sure theres a grandma out there watching lmao, and yes we love this series so pls keep goin (dont ask me for ideas tho im not gud at those)
You can comfortably make a turbo version of this engine. Lots of old tractor engines back in the day had a turbo version, even those from the 60s. Personally i would have went for an I4 instead of an I3, I4 engines were the most common
I really love these challenges! Maybe next time you guys could build cars with the imsa prototype body that automation has? Then you could make the only requirement that the engine has to fit in the back of it.
That Krusty the clown laugh tho 💀 19:47
Make the smallest possible engine but with the highest horsepower possible. Reliability can shove it though!
That motor has an Up-Draft Carb on it, most vehicles did not get EFI until the 80s and tractors are normally 10-20 years behind as their more relaxed on EPA regulations.
You should get Kan and TwoFace in on the automation challenges maybe
Gas mileage: *_NOT A NUMBER_*
21:06 that laughter 😂
I want to see a competition with a budget limit. Set some sort of low price and then compare racing performance, drag race, maybe off road, then also like normal stuff like mpg, comfort and reliabilitty
20:00 “there you go, good toe job” Aaayyyoooo. 😂
Chill guys I know he meant “tow”
really wish they made a space flight sim like this. really enjoying this series, i personally like it better if you learn while you play and not study in between but as long as you're having fun that makes for a good show.
It's 2am and Bread is hungry.
1 liter engines, but coinflip at time of challenge decides if you swap car bodies (heads), or engines (tails).
Have you heard of fillman86? You guys could do a bunch of collabs and learn how to mod in the process.
I'm not sure how this game works but the reason it said that the engine would break right away might be because you didn't put balancing shafts on it: 3cyl engines have inherently unbalanced verticle inertia forces from pistons moving up and down. And harmonic balancer is used to fight tortional vibrations in the crankshaft which aren't that dangerous in a 3cyl since crankshaft is very short. It could also be that you put too heavy of a harmonic balancer and the engine breaks trying to overcome it's inertia.
It would be great if you could include a third 'cast member' for even more entertainment, whether or not it's the same person every time.
There are some good racing maps, especially an Uphill one where you can race with engines at maybe 100~200 kilometers per hour, mixing a little bit of everything for a challenge
What was that clapping sound when he started the engine🤣🤣🤣
Absolutely LOVE these automation videos. Keep the awesome quality comin!!
Hey Kosmo, for the next competition with Butch, maybe build the cheapest 200hp car you can and compete with that?
"RPM is gonna be 3500."
*Rated RPM: 2500*
This was a great format. I'd love to see more!
One of my favorite cars I've ever made in Automation is a sports car with a V10 - except the V10 tops out at 2000 rpm. I called it the "growler" because that's what it does... It doesn't rev, it just goes "grrrr"
More silly stuff, even more silly and preferably longer testing content 👍
Good job, you have seriusly built a good engine for this challange. Tracktor = god
thats was cool. this time butch make the motor and you make the body
I love that you managed to make an engine that apparently runs on popcorn
19:47 that laugh sent me🤣🤣😭
The biggest issues you have is, 1: adjusting intake and exhaust before you even finish the engine... these are done LAST as they make a HUGE impact on how your engine runs, and where you make power. 2: your cam is too aggressive, literally not even using 70% of your cam at 3000 rpm. Fun video though.
I. Love this series just make more
Great video, that was fun to watch
I wanna see you do this again, but just make the biggest semi truck engine you can, with all the cylinders and all the liters.
I do enjoy you two in automation and beam
This is quite interesting, I think I would like to see more
19:48 Goofy ahh laugh hahaaaaaa
The first minute in the video and i already love kosmo's off-road driving skillz
You should have chosen another year fir the engine, on top left, it'll change the power and the technology available to match your beautiful reference engine
Tractors as well as trucks typically have super high compression, its the reason they have a so harsh sound
This is awesome, would love to see more
This just might be my favorite video of all time here
#tractor life
Now, that is not how utility engines are built.
First thing, in Automation you can easily replicate a diesel engine both in terms of high knock threshold for high comp and really good fuel economy by using 150RON Compressed Gas as fuel.
Second thing, utility engines are basically AAAALLLL low end torque, so in Automation that means the Cam and Valvetrain stiffness value hovers is always between 0-10, never above.
Third, always use standard low for both intake and exhaust, because automation doesn't get it quite right but realistically utility engines don't flow much hair due to their cam setup, hence a standard low behaves the most similarly to a real tractor or truck engine.
Finally, you used a Port Injected EFI in this but the engine you're referencing uses mechanical injection for both petrol and diesel variants.
All that being said, really good video 😊
as far as i know this game should support Diesel engines.. i never played it but i watched a guy on youtube compare built diesel and gasoline engines that have the same Displacement and Turbo pressure :)
so there might be a button or something
I like how they made a 1970 Soviet union vehicle in terms of engine and practicality,only the looks are a bit off
Hey I noticed most of your questions can be answered by chatGPT including compression and such
And then you can for sure just reverse search somehow and find if it’s actually true but mostly it is
And to answer your question the compression was 7.5:1
8:58 read the whole warning message
it literally says "Consider using a *richer fuel map, less compression,* or less boost if running a turbo."
I'd be so mad if I could read
Reverse now? You make the vehicle, and he the engine?
I'd hire totally legit moving co. for all of my moving needs!
Build a tractor with 100 hp and do some challanges😊
Timing allows you to give more compression I’m pretty sure
love the series, keep it up bro
woulda been cool to use a 4bt cummins. the 4bt and 6bt are found in tractors and even generators lol
14:50 my career car climb it anyway 😂😭😂
Damper not dampener, cool vids tho, love watching.
19:47 what the hell was that 😂😂😂
Great video
The official Automation RUclips channel has some videos on what all of the engine graphs mean
you should've done a Lamborghini tractor engine
this is how alpine designed their engine
You should do really big engine into a really tiny car
You NEED to do a 6.7 liter Cummins plsss
Should have just built a Lamborghini Tractor engine lol
85RON lean? You might as well just spit in the fuel filter. I did chuckle at the idea of a tractor from the 70s having electronic fuel injection.
I ain't spittin'! gonna hire someone to do it.
I mean, just keep the mismatching going. Have a massive torque hauling super car. Have a 2000hp T-series. Just the opposite of what they look like. The ultimate sleeper series. Will your off-brand Evade Stallion Hades Feline do a 7.72 quarter mile? Nah, but it'll pull the truck hauling the truck hauling the trailer your other off-brand Evade Stallion Hades Feline is on to and from the track.
wait... did those specs (1:32) just say 50 hp and 129 lb-ft? because that's a whole lot better than the engine you made for the 50 hp challenge video 😂 maybe you should have made a tractor engine for your massive wagon 😅
You should put that motor in a pigeon or something very small
We have a generator with one of those JD engines at my work diesel and huge turbo, pretty sure it operates peak efficiency at 1800rpm
As requested....*pushes the roast Kosmo button*. I would have no clue on the engine stats either...so you did at least as well as I would have or better. :)
Insert gif of plucky duck pushing all the buttons
should have gone with the 3020's engine!
Why not the farmall 806 turbo?
Should’ve went with an 8.something 6 cylinder John Deere power tech engine 👍🏼 or the engine that’s in a 1990s 4960 John Deere tractor🥵
actual og lamborchini build
you still have me if you ever have questions before hand . i am a mechanical engineer and love automotive technology
That's what bubble wrap is for
tractor engine. I thought like a big 7.3 liter inline 6 engine that has 160 hp and ALL the torque
Make a straight 16 in line engine or something daft
its not that you picked an obscure engine, its that you picked an engine from a company that doesnt want any aftermarket and doesnt want you to make any repairs on it. you picked the apple of engine manufacturers
also. that is a fuel pump but your not going to make fuel injection pressures with it. its for a carb
Kosmonaut pls do more vids of this kame
I've played around some 2 hours to optimize an engine.. well mostly.. would love for you to try it out.
Where/How can I sent you a model?
That engine would be carbureted and would only rev up to about 2k. Pretty old engine, built more for torque than anything. Meant to be at full throttle constantly
too high of compression will make the engine pull timing, meaning that you're going to get knocking/pinging, loss of power and reliability. the dyno graph has a timing indiactor that shows blue from the top down when its pulling timing (just below "RPM [1/min]").
@lytlejj1408 The timing won't change, but the gas will burn, pre-ignition.
That's sorta why I found it odd that it wasn't giving me a knocking warning at 16:1! I am sure there's a perfectly good explanation for it based on the other variables I chose, but I am used to it not being happy when it's that high
Bro laughs like krusty the clown
where do you build these engines?
@@Davides-e4h a game called something like automation
@@Caveman62 Ater some time i also found out but thanks anyways☺
@@Davides-e4h nop problem 🫡
Bro put a de-esser on your vocal chain
pls more automation
MOAR
Correct me if I am wrong, but for an I3 you want balance shafts not harmonic dampener?
Whacky
Please make an actual good engine for once like a v10 from an R8/Huracan…